Special： Rex Murphy’s year-end interview with Pierre Poilievre
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Pierre Polyver, the leader of the opposition in the House of Commons, joins the Full Comment Podcast to talk about his year-end interview with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, and why he's running for re-election in 2020.
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This is Full Comment Podcast. My name is Rex Murphy. We all have a cross to beer. And I will be
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interviewing very special guests, especially at this time of year and especially at the end
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of this particular year. Mr. Pierre Polyver, the leader of the opposition. And should you wish a longer
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version, and I'm sure you will, of this of this podcast, it will be available on nationalpost.com
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starting December 19th. Pierre Polyver is the guest year-end interview.
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Mr. Polyver, you've had, in this particular year, the greatest, to some people, surprising acceleration,
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both in your popular standing and in the sway of your politics, and I'd like to say so,
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your performance in the House. What is it that came together that convinced enough people
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that you were more than a viable candidate for the next prime ministership?
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And I know it's a hard question to answer because it feeds to ego, but what are the cold things
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Very simple. Two things came together. My words match with people's living experience. They hear what I
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say, and they look around and say, yep, that's what I live. So when I say that after eight years of
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Trudeau, everything's broken, life costs more, work doesn't pay, housing costs have doubled,
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crime, chaos, drugs, and disorder are common in our streets, people look around themselves and say,
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it's self-evidently true. And when I say that I have common sense solutions for those problems,
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acts the tax, cap the spending to fix the budget, and end the inflationary deficits,
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when I say we're going to cut income tax so that hard work pays again, when I say that we need to clear
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away the bureaucracy to build homes, when I say we're going to have jail and not bail for repeat criminals,
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people say that's self-evidently common sense. So those are the things that came together to
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give me the rising support we witnessed. I've thought, this is my thought, not yours,
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and I'm not ascribing it to you either, but looking over the whole eight years of the current
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administration, if there was a fetal fault, if there was something at the very beginning of this
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tenure that more than any other thing, I'm thinking in terms of policy, distracted or removed the Trudeau
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government from an appreciation of the whole nation. It was his obsession with what, in my judgment,
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is this futile idea that Canada changes the climate of the world. In other words,
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climate policies have become something of a sacred right in the Liberal government and that took
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whatever, well, what they're pleased to call their minds off of everything else and kept them out of
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contact with normal people. For him though, it's really about money and control. The carbon tax is not
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about the environment. It's about raising money for him to spend. And most of his so-called
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environmental policies are really about taking control over people's economic lives. And both have
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been to great detriment. They've cost jobs. They've chewed up family budgets. They have contributed to
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inflation. And my common sense plan is to do exactly the opposite of what he's done. He, you know, my view is that
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we need to green light more green projects. Let's speed up mining approvals. Let's accelerate nuclear
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energy production. Let's allow Quebec to build its hydroelectric dams with one approval rather than two,
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gumming it up in bureaucracy. In other words, let's have an abundance of energy rather than a poverty of
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energy that we're seeing now. It was a very strange thing when, as a, he wasn't then prime minister,
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he made this sociological observation. He said a couple of things. He said, Canada has no core values.
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And secondly, Canada is a post-national state. Now, whether he even understood fully intellectually,
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it was, that's a very strange statement. We have no core values. And the idea of a Canadian identity
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outside of some fuzz on the top of the head somewhere, how can a person who believes that
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we have no core values be a prime minister? Well, I can't, I can't answer that question.
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I sure as heck didn't put him there. But I'll go back to what I just said. It serves his ideological
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objective of wanting the government to control everything. If he can say, well, the country has
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no identity worth defending. And therefore, it is a blank slate at best. And if it's a blank slate,
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then he can write anything he wants onto that slate, right? And that is effectively what he's done by
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saying Canada has no history, by deleting our key symbols from passports, by trying to delete...
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deep apologies for everything. Trying to delete key parts of our history and our past.
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By doing that, by saying Canada has either a wretched history or no history at all,
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that he is left to control the future. And that comes right out of Orwell. He who controls the past,
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controls the future. Does it also indicate why, at least again from my view, so much of Canadian policy
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policy at the higher levels, and I'm speaking only of the government, comes out of international agendas.
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He's wedded to that lunatic COP performance. There's the COP, the COP conference. He's also wedded to the WEF.
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Is Christopher Freeland still on the board of that thing? And by the way, we'll go back to Gilboa,
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is he still with some Chinese? We can't have cabinet ministers functioning in the altitudes of
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international organizations while they are cabinet ministers. I think we need to bring home control
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of our democracy. Here we have a prime minister who has, one, allowed Beijing-controlled police
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stations to proliferate in our country, two, allowed the Iranian-controlled terrorist group, the IRGC,
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to legally operate and have 700 out of its agents freely roaming our country, terrorizing our people,
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and three, import his ideological agenda from other countries and other places. You know, that is who he is
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and what he believes. I think that's when I say bring it home. Let's bring home control of our democracy back to our
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people so that we can decide for ourselves what we want. And that's what we will get when I'm prime minister.
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Do you think that he has a view that while the prime ministership surely carries vast prestige in Canada,
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that it's not quite large enough that he would prefer to operate more on a global scale than on what
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some other countries might regard as a second power country? And that's why he's so eager to form these
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international alliances, adopt international philosophies, and especially on the global warming
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thing, which is a juggernaut, to tie himself in with the major players internationally on that front.
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Like I said, I don't take issue with the idea of trying to reduce our emissions in order to combat
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climate change, but I don't think that is his real objective. I think, again,
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he uses that as a pretext to raise taxes, control the economy, effectively nationalize various parts
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of our economy, and give himself more control at the expense of this long-suffering Canadian consumer
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and Canadian worker. That's how I see it. At the end of the day, everything else is a pretext for him.
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It's how does he take the most money and the most power from the country for himself, and every other
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cause you will see him utter is a pretext to do that. Is that also, I'll get off the oil and gas
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with this one, is that also why the Ruff, I think in many cases contemptuous, and possibly not even in
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his jurisdiction, but his attitudes towards the West, farmers wanting some relief, the oil and gas
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industry is a 20-year story, that these are not quite my class. I've often said that if oil and gas were
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in Ontario or Quebec, that service stations would be decorated like basilicas. Is it because it's
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Alberta and Saskatchewan? Is there an animosity there unexpressed that is getting expressed through
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politics? I have no doubt that he has total disdain for Saskatchewan and Alberta. His father did,
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surely his father gave him the finger. I remember. And I think that, but I think he has a lot of
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disdain for many people. He attacks parents who object to his gender ideology as hateful. He attacks
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small businesses as tax cheats. He attacks grandmothers who heat their homes as polluters. He attacks
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anyone who disagreed with his authoritarian agenda over the last several years as a small fringe
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minority. And to his credit, he took that back and apologized for it. But I think he meant it. And I
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think he looks at anyone that is not prepared to cede their money and their freedom to his power. He
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looks upon with contempt. That really leads me up to that current trial, the trucker's protest. You
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were one of the few people, and I'm saying it not because I'm a conservative or I didn't like it,
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but there were, you know, a great number of Canadians traveled a long, long distance to make a point.
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I don't think they burned anything down. I don't think they shot anybody. They didn't rip Ottawa's
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public buildings down or sprayed them with red paint. And yet Tamara Lynch, just to use her as an
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example, is in some ludicrously extended trial of mischief and talk of interest. The slamming of that
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particular protest to me was a signal moment of the character of that government. Secondly, should this
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trial even be progressing or was it a confection of politics that he used to start an election?
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Speaking of a confection of politics, I don't think politicians should comment on ongoing trials.
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I'll give you that. But I will say that you can contrast all of what you just said
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with his treatment of demonstrably violent criminals who terrorize our communities.
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For example, under his bail reform, the same 40 offenders were arrested 6,000 times in the city
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of Vancouver. Okay, so these 40 guys, or I presume they were guys. This is right out of a letter from
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the BC Union of Mayors. These 40 guys committed 6,000 crimes. They hit 6,000 people over the head
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with baseball bats or stabbings or robberies. They, you know, 40 of them, if you just locked them up,
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you could have 6,000 fewer crimes. But we have a prime minister who is allowing such rampant violence
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and disorder to run wild in many of our cities and towns. And yet, he's worried that you might
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say the wrong thing on the internet so he has to censor you. He's decriminalizing crack but banning
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plastic straws. It's insane. It's incredible how radical this guy is. And that's why I think my
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message of common sense is so resonant with people across the political spectrum. Whether they're new
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democrats, liberals, or conservatives, they just say let's get back to the common sense ideas that
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worked and made our country such a wonderful place for so many years. I want to get down to
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the international level. I personally, I'm not surprised, I'm almost astonished. I think of it in
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terms of Canada. Let's say it was New Brunswick or Saskatchewan. Typical middle provinces, if you will.
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If there was a certain morning that some wild, crazy, pathological and sadistic force walked across
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the border in Canada and on the same day slaughtered 1200 ordinary people. I don't know calling them
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civilians. They were at a music festival. And then perpetuated such barbarous acts that we have not
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seen since the middle ages. Rape, tort terror, and I don't know how you, I know you have a young family,
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the idea that men in armed suits would pick up eight month year olds and three year olds and an 87 year
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old and haul them off to a tunnel. The reason for my giving you the elaborate speech of it
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is that in any other context, if this was in this country on the same scale, we'd have maybe 5,000 people
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involved. We would be talking and acting and pursuing this relentlessly. But on the international side of things,
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the day of that butchery seems to have just dropped off the map. If we, if we lose, and I don't want to wish it,
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if we were to lose 10 people in the violent act, you know, but the news media of Canada would be like,
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this was 1200 shot, raped, beheaded, burned, and kidnapped. And the enormity of that offense
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seems to slip away. Just like to hear your thoughts on it. It is appalling. Hamas is a genocidal
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death cult that is determined to carry out a genocide on Israelis. And that would, of course,
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only be the starting point. This is, I think this is part of a broader agenda of the Iranian regime
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to disrupt what was an incredibly promising peace drive with the signing of the Abraham Accords
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between Israel, UAE, Bahrain, potentially, and eventually Saudi Arabia. Can you imagine that? If
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the country that is home to Mecca and Medina had signed a peace agreement with Israel, how we might
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have moved forward from that towards a lasting peace that could have, probably would have included a
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Palestinian state. But Iran, the Iranian regime wants exactly the opposite of that. And so they financed and,
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I believe, orchestrated the attack. And I think that it is incumbent upon us to respect Israel's right
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to defend itself, to totally defeat and disarm Hamas, to recover the remaining living hostages,
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God willing, and to have the full surrender of the Hamas terrorists so that this never happens again.
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Because, of course, we did have a ceasefire. They broke a ceasefire to do this.
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They broke a ceasefire to do this. You know, there's my point. I know other people are saying it,
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and people are much more standing than I. But when I watched the international demonstrations,
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yes. And they swelled at 10 to 100,000. And you see the huge demonstrations of pro-Hamas or anti-Israel,
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you can pick your own term. That's why I gave you that description. After the enormity, the numbers,
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the surprise, the sneak attack, the brutality, and kidnapping of very, very young children,
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how is it that the streets of North America and large parts of Europe seem to kind of wipe that
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away and, oh, we must support the Palestinian cause? I don't get it. Well, I have no problem
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supporting a cause that is favorable to the Palestinian people. But right now what we're seeing is an agenda
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that is not pro-Palestinian. It is pro-Hamas. And Hamas is anti, in my estimation, is actually an
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anti-Palestinian force because it has presided over the total misery of Gazans over the last decade and
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a half since Israel left Gaza. And it is determined to perpetuate that misery in order for the fighting to
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go on forever until they get their genocidal death wish. Now, my view is that Israel has the right to
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defend itself and we can't allow Hamas to, you know, this resolution at the UN, for example, that
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Justin Trudeau flip-flopped to support, it actually went beyond a ceasefire. It effectively said that
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Israel should accept that Hamas can keep the hostages because that was an unconditional ceasefire
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that did not include any mention of freeing the hostages. I know, it didn't mention Hamas or hostages.
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There's no one that doesn't want an end to the fighting, but anyone in their right mind would have
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to see that before that could happen, you'd have to have a disarmed, surrendered Hamas with obviously
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the unconditional release of the hostages. There's the point that, as usual, I've obscured the question.
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If there are going to be mass demonstrations, and there are huge demonstrations in every major city,
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why is not the demonstration focused on this point? A, a villainous bunch of people killed an
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awful lot of innocent people and tortured and maimed many others. So here's the demand for peace.
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Hamas, cut it out, get your leaders out, surrender. Why is all the external pressure,
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Israel must be appropriate? Hamas can end this as Hamas begun it, by stopping, releasing hostages.
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But that's not being called for in UNs or in these other resolutions. It's upside down.
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No, in fact, and that's the problem. If Israel were to stop today, then what would change? Well,
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Hamas would just recruit or regroup and strike again in a couple of months. Not to mention they
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continue to house the hostages. So, you know, it is just incredible that we would see that kind of
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a resolution pass. My approach here in Canada, by the way, is we have to ban the IRGC terrorists,
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who helped. The IRGC is the most sophisticated, well-financed and state-integrated terrorist group
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in the world. I have no doubt they were involved in the Hamas attack of October 7th. And yet,
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by the way, they've killed dozens of Canadians in the shoot down of the passenger flight PS752.
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And yet, according to Global News, in an investigative report, they actually have 700 of their agents
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operating with impunity, terrorizing Persians and Jews in Canada. And it's perfectly legal,
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because they have not been listed as a terrorist group. So my common sense plan is to list the IRGC
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as a terrorist group, to ban them, and to expel their leadership from our country.
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We saw in the States recently, that's just to give it a kind of a high tag, the three university
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presidents who had to stumble over whether it calls for, you know, rather desperate measures
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against the Jews, was or was not anti-Semitic. That's not my question. I'm finding that through
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talks with parents and people who have children in school, I know that schools at that level
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is not federal, but we're all Canadians. What's going on in the Canadian school system that so many
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school boards? They present themselves as activists in what we, in some derision,
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refer to as the woke agenda. Sexuality politics, ethnic politics, identity politics,
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these things have captured the entire attention of the whole school boards who are very radical
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in pushing even against the arguments to it. I talk, in a sense like you, I have talked to so many
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parents in schools in Ontario, these are rich schools by any standard, and the parents say,
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we don't know what to do. If we could take, and this is some Catholic schools, city school,
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if we could take our children somewhere else, they actually fear sending their kids to school
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because they don't know the ideologies or the political preferences that are now substituting for
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classroom instruction. It's a scandal. What do you think of it?
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I think the school should get back to teaching reading, writing, and arithmetic, and we should
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let parents raise kids and transmit their values to children. When Trudeau stepped in and stuck his nose in
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the policy decisions of Premier Scott Moe and Premier Higgs to restore parental rights,
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I told him he should butt out and let provinces run schools and parents raise kids. And that's
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what I believe. Parents should be able to decide, and parents should obviously know what's going on in
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the lives of their kids. But isn't that, again, one of the little index markers of where we are?
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The idea that schools and some principals, and certainly some school boards, not almost,
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with full arrogance saying that if young children come to us with one specific kind of problem,
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the sexual confusions that obtain, we think we should be able to keep it to ourselves.
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Where do they get the call to say that they're superior to the parents? Not from me. I don't know,
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not from you. But they get support from a lot of quarters. And how is that stopped? This is not
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a made-up thing. We have to respect parental rights. And I stand for parental rights. Because I trust
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parents to make the right decision for their kids. And I know that parents are... This is a key area
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where Justin Trudeau and I just disagree. He believes that he should be able to impose his
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radical ideology on other people's kids by demanding provinces implement his thinking and calling anyone
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who disagrees, whether they are Muslim, Jewish, or Christian parents, hateful. And so I think
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he should butt out and let parents raise kids. The last question on that, the other thing about the agenda
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that is in the schools, and I have too much information not to be completely solid on it, is displacing the
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function of the school. We are to train minds, teach people to write, read, and science, and also some of the social
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groups of virtues. But identity politics pursued with an intensity. It overwhelms everything else.
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And if you haven't gone to the right washroom, or you said the wrong word to the wrong person,
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suddenly this is it. I don't see a month dedicated to arithmetic, a month dedicated to history,
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but 10,000 months for LGBT or some other foreign cause.
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Well, listen, at the end of the day, I can't promise to fix that one. I'm running for prime minister,
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so I won't be able to fix educational problems. But I think we need to get back to common sense on
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all of these things. On these broader social questions, if I were to create a political
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party from scratch, it would be called the mind your own damn business party. People can make the
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decisions of who they marry, who they date, how they live their lives, but also how they raise their
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kids. And I think if we had governments at all levels that live and let live, that had a policy
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of live and let live, a true policy of live and let live, which ironically is what liberals used to say
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25 years ago, then we would have so much more social peace because people could make their own
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decisions and come to their own conclusions and raise their own families with their own values.
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And I think by and large, parents are human, they'll obviously make mistakes, but by and large,
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at the end of the day, parents and people will make the right decisions for their own lives and
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their own families. And that's why my role as a prime minister is not going to be to impose my values
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on other people. It's to get out of their faces and run a competent government. They want a government
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that can deliver a passport, not a government that runs their lives.
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Yeah. Coming towards the end, I've got two more. If you can in a compressed form,
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and I know it's difficult because it's a wide territory, what is the main thing that would
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differentiate your administration from the administration of Mr. Trudeau, should those
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things come to pass? What's the essence? Well, the choice in the next election will be whether you
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want a costly coalition of the NDP and Justin Trudeau that take your money, punish your work,
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tax your food, double your housing costs, and unleash crime and chaos in your community,
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or a common-sense conservative government that frees you to earn a powerful paycheck and pension
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that buys affordable food, gas, and homes in safe neighborhoods. That's the choice.
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And this is just kind of a particular question, but it's very bothersome.
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The alliance between Mr. Trudeau and Mr. Singh, it may be correct, but it isn't right. They've
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gutted the parliament of the one great function that it has, that if it wants a confidence vote,
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it can get it. They've taken that out of the parliamentary. Why is Mr. Singh doing this?
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Does he have any concern with his own NDP party now that he subdued them to the liberal brand? And is
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there any way you can combat this particular, they don't like the word, coalition, that's guaranteeing
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Trudeau's minority government the powers of the majority? Well, they are a coalition, a costly
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coalition, and frankly Jagmeet Singh has forgotten who he works for. Because I can tell you the union
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workers in the lumber mills of Vancouver Island or in the mines of Northern Ontario that elected NDP
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members of parliament did not send their MP to go and work for Justin Trudeau. Yet that is what has
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happened. And so good, hardworking union families that like to hunt and drive a truck and raise their
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families are now represented by an MP that supports a government that's taking away hunting rifles,
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taxing people's energy, and stripping away our resource, the very resource jobs that give paychecks
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to those people. So Jagmeet Singh and his NDP members are literally working against the people they
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represent in this coalition. But the good news is they'll be able to fire them and elect a common
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sense local MP that will work for them. I know it's very early Christmas, one of the very busiest
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times in politics. You've squandered 45 or 50 minutes with a useless human being. Not at all. Yes,
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a useless human being. A very good human being. And I thank you very much for doing it, sir. Thank
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you very much to you, Rex, and I wish you best for your health and happiness and Merry Christmas to all.
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Well, I'll take that home. Cheers to that. Let's bring it home.
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Well, thank you very much for watching this. This is Full Comment Podcast. My name, as I indicated at the
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beginning, hasn't changed. Still Rex Murphy, we were interviewing Pierre Polymer. If you were
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interested in a longer version of this interview, it will be available on nationalpost.com anytime
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starting December 19th. Before I let you go entirely, Merry Christmas.