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00:01:07.780 When you go to see a doctor, are you looking for someone who is a medical expert or someone who is

00:01:14.800 an anti-oppression and anti-racism advocate? Hello and welcome to the Full Comment Podcast. My name's

00:01:20.880 Brian Lilly. Today we're going to look at changes that are being proposed to CanMeds, an offshoot of

00:01:25.960 the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons. There are calls to change the way that doctors

00:01:31.840 are trained in this country. Quoting from a document that was published last December when I first wrote

00:01:36.760 about this, it says that a new model of CanMeds would seek to center values such as anti-oppression,

00:01:43.460 anti-racism, and social justice rather than medical expertise, end quote. I don't know about you,

00:01:49.800 but that's very concerning to me. It's also concerning to a number of doctors who are pushing

00:01:54.320 back, including our guest today. Dr. Mark D'Souza is a family physician in Toronto. He also has an

00:02:00.460 affiliation with Queen's University Medical School, where he is an assistant professor, and he joins me

00:02:04.380 now from his practice. Dr. D'Souza, thanks so much. Good morning, Brian. It's great to be here.

00:02:10.260 So, this woke takeover of medicine, as a recent piece in National Post described it, how did this

00:02:18.300 come about, and is this something that we should be concerned about? Because when I wrote about this

00:02:22.680 last December and quoted from the CanMeds proposal, the Royal College replied that it was fake news,

00:02:30.340 that it was misinformation out there, that they wanted to replace medical expertise with anti-oppression

00:02:37.660 and anti-racism. And yet, as you just heard, I quoted from them. So, you're part of this

00:02:43.060 organization. You're a practicing doctor. What's going on, and why are you concerned?

00:02:48.700 So, first, just a brief overview of what the CanMeds framework is. This is the ideals of what it

00:02:56.500 means to be a Canadian physician. And this has been around since 1996, surviving or changing very

00:03:02.440 slightly over two iterations. And the CanMeds framework consists of seven words, such as

00:03:09.200 communicator, leader, medical expert, traditionally most of all, and scholar. And then each of these

00:03:16.160 words is actually followed by one to two paragraphs of an explanation. So, what's happened is, now that

00:03:22.540 they're up for renewal every 10 years, so it was scheduled for 2025, a group of activist doctors who run

00:03:28.840 the academic institutions, such as the Royal College, they want to radically transform it into,

00:03:34.740 and they basically said the quiet part out loud, which is they want to, as you quoted, this is

00:03:39.780 quoting directly from them, to de-center medical expertise. And, you know, if you read the rest of

00:03:45.680 the supporting documents, it basically inserts all the social justice jargon in it. And those one to two

00:03:51.140 paragraphs that follow each of these seven ideals, they've all been replaced with the words that you

00:03:56.760 were talking about, including critical race theory, anti-oppression, decolonization, and

00:04:02.720 acknowledging, of course, they have to do this, white supremacy.

00:04:07.280 What does medicine have to do with any of that? Is medicine now racist? Is medicine now

00:04:16.240 white supremacist? I mean, I've seen academics use this and claim that math is rooted in white

00:04:22.460 supremacy. Utter nonsense and ridiculous, but this has spread everywhere. I mean, how did they arrive 0.98

00:04:30.440 at that?

00:04:32.880 Well, it looks like it's copy-pasted over from all the different other woke takeovers of different

00:04:38.060 institutions. So, yeah, I don't think it has any place in medicine, but I think they just have,

00:04:45.420 it's, it's a spirit of wokeness, the spirit of ideological capture by the left of different

00:04:49.800 institutions that just, everything is, everything is racist and it displaces the actual medical

00:04:56.060 practice. So, yes, one thing specific, they, they do explicitly say we have to acknowledge

00:05:00.280 that Western medicine is founded on racism. All of us acknowledge that.

00:05:05.100 Western medicine has drawn from advances from around the world. It's as ridiculous as saying 0.87

00:05:23.980 math is centered in Western colonialism and white supremacy. I mean, you look at how math was 0.98

00:05:31.100 developed, much like medicine. Oh, you know, the Arabic scholars came up with this. Oh, scholars in

00:05:39.320 India came up with inventing the zero. You, you incorporate that and you build on it. And medicine 0.89

00:05:46.240 has done the same thing, claiming that it's, it's centered in, in Western white supremacy is beyond 0.99

00:05:52.640 ridiculous. But I worry about what this means for medical training. Is that part of your concern? 0.64

00:05:59.360 Absolutely. It's not just the ideals for medical trainees, because everyone will be indoctrinated

00:06:05.180 in this, this, the progressive agenda, but it's also the ideals of what it means to practice medicine

00:06:11.160 in Canada. So we'll have to also bend the knee, so to speak to this ideology.

00:06:17.800 Now, do you need to be a member of the Royal College to practice? So, you know, future doctors,

00:06:24.800 as you say, will go through this. You say, you'll, you'll have to bend the knee. I was talking with

00:06:30.560 one physician who is quite outraged by this. He's not, he told me, he said, I'm, I'm not involved.

00:06:36.660 I'm the only one. Yeah. Not involved with the fight, but

00:06:40.120 the outrage by this and said, if they force this, I will just surrender my membership in the Royal

00:06:49.140 College. Do you need to be a member of the Royal College to practice? I actually think you need to

00:06:54.680 be a member of one of two organizations. So if you were a GP trained like myself, you have to be a

00:07:00.360 member of the College of Family Physicians. If you are a specialist trained, like the doctor you were

00:07:06.660 referring to, you have to be a member of the Royal College. Now they're all working together on this.

00:07:11.380 It's just the Royal College happens to be the body taking the lead on this.

00:07:16.480 One of the, uh, the doctors that is, uh, pushing this is, uh, a guy named, uh, Raghu, uh, Venigopal.

00:07:25.160 Um, he's interacted with me frequently on X. Uh, he is clearly a social justice warrior. He's been

00:07:33.400 freaking out over Ontario premier Doug Ford, expanding the sale of alcohol, predicting that tens of thousands

00:07:38.940 of people are going to die as a result of this. Yet he, um, he absolutely supports safe supply and

00:07:47.060 safe injection sites, which we know the safe supply is leading to increased deaths. And at the same time,

00:07:53.100 just three weeks ago was encourage everyone to mask up in public over COVID. I look at his public

00:08:01.800 pronouncements and I don't see a doctor. I see an activist who happens to be a doctor and is putting

00:08:07.960 his political views ahead of sane, rational discussion. I mean, we can have a discussion

00:08:14.500 about the impact of, well, expanding alcohol sales and will there be harms and, and harms versus

00:08:20.360 benefits and all of that. But on every issue, it seems like he just adopts whatever the far left has.

00:08:26.400 He's one of the guys pushing this change.

00:08:29.700 There's a group of them at the top of the chain. They're all, they're all patting themselves on the

00:08:33.620 back and saying that this is the way, uh, congratulations. And this is, this is the

00:08:39.520 way of the future and everyone else who doesn't agree. I mean, I've seen some of his posts and

00:08:44.060 they don't tend to be all that, uh, well, they're not, not all that polite to, especially to

00:08:49.600 professor Revers who wrote that op-ed last week, exposing, they're good at debate.

00:08:54.960 Uh, so how do you fight back? You know, if most, you know, a few doctors that I've spoken to,

00:09:06.660 including yourself have said that they don't believe that the majority of doctors support this.

00:09:12.280 And yet clearly the activists have taken control of the institution. So how do you stop this from

00:09:20.960 happening? Uh, before I answer that question, I want to share some other news that may make us

00:09:27.000 feel better, but may also make us feel worse. This is actually part of a wider trend in Western

00:09:31.360 medicine of, uh, progressive agenda taking over. So the American Medical Association, for example,

00:09:37.060 they've also, they also say the same things formally. They want to embed anti-racism, racial equity,

00:09:42.780 social justice into their organizations. And then in Europe, it's a similar thing going on.

00:09:48.220 But how do you fight back? I actually think, uh, public awareness, first of all, is public

00:09:54.220 pressure, public awareness is, is having its effect. The college did email me two days ago

00:10:01.420 to say, to give me some updates that A, that they're actually implementing in 2027 and B, that

00:10:07.640 they are going to, uh, release some updates on the framework sometime later this month, see

00:10:14.700 what they do and what they, how much they walk back. But the other way to fight this is really,

00:10:20.200 I think we should be pushing for regulatory bodies over, uh, for legislation against regulatory body

00:10:26.980 overreach. And I know you've done some work on, uh, reporting on Jordan Peterson's case, but that's

00:10:31.220 definitely on a lot of our minds. And it's probably the reason why this has gotten to this point without

00:10:36.300 too much of, uh, public awareness. Cause we're just afraid to speak up.

00:10:41.000 In Jordan Peterson's case, uh, which I, uh, was reporting on around the same time as I started

00:10:47.540 reporting on CanMeds. Um, and well, actually, I guess it was the year previous, crazy things, uh,

00:10:54.020 come up at the end of December in the news cycle. And, and this is one of them. But in,

00:10:58.440 when I was first reporting on what was happening to Jordan Peterson, I heard from teachers, lawyers,

00:11:06.340 doctors, engineers, all kinds of people who are required as part of their job to belong to these

00:11:12.980 professional associations. And they said, I'm worried about this too. Now, if this goes forward,

00:11:19.460 I'm in, in terms of medicine, I'm worried about what it means for the future of teaching. And we have

00:11:27.240 seen several medical schools already implement, uh, you know, fast tracks for certain racialized or

00:11:34.780 minority groups. I hate that term racialized. The term racialized to me actually sounds like it's

00:11:40.460 white supremacist because it makes it sound like being white is the norm and everyone else is

00:11:45.880 racialized. Therefore not the norm. I don't use the term. It's the woke left that uses it. And to me, 0.54

00:11:52.800 that sounds white supremacist, but anyways, so using their term, there are fast tracks and,

00:11:58.760 and special, uh, uh, admissions, uh, formats for racialized groups within medical schools.

00:12:05.620 Now we've got this, but I, I think that what you have to be worried about next is what's happened

00:12:12.020 to Dr. Peterson. That if you have the wrong thought, you will be punished by your regulatory body.

00:12:19.680 Absolutely. We need to protect the ability of physicians and every other regulated professional

00:12:25.560 to be able to speak. That's how we defeat this. And, and I did want to comment as well on your,

00:12:30.700 the admissions criteria, because I think I see that coming as well. And in fact,

00:12:35.180 they even explicitly call for it in the supporting documents for this CanMeds 2025 framework of getting

00:12:41.040 social justice, equity, diversity, inclusivity, the new holy trinity into the, uh, admissions.

00:12:47.360 If you look at specifically, I'll, I'll highlight Dalhousie, but I can see this as part of a wider

00:12:52.460 trend with medical school admissions. Dalhousie does not have a minimum stand, minimum GPA or MCAT

00:12:58.520 requirements for two particular preferred racial groups. They, I think the medical schools need to

00:13:05.140 be pressed onto how are they going to make sure that this just doesn't end up being racial quotas?

00:13:09.800 You know, I have been treated by doctors of all backgrounds. Um, you know, my family physician

00:13:18.200 for the longest time, uh, when I lived in Hamilton was from India. Um, his son who, you know, in,

00:13:24.900 he was an Indian immigrant, his son who was born here, raised here. I believe he's taking over the 1.00

00:13:29.180 practice. Now my, my, uh, family members still go to that GP. Uh, I've had Arabic Muslim doctors,

00:13:35.800 Jewish doctors, you know, I just want a good doctor. Uh, it's, this is a, a bizarre way of 1.00

00:13:44.320 handling it. One of the top obstetricians in Ottawa. Uh, and I believe that, that the, the

00:13:50.020 groups, uh, one of the groups, uh, getting favorable access are, are black students. Uh, this would 0.92

00:13:56.440 offend, uh, that one of the top obstetricians that, uh, delivered my kids, uh, when I was in

00:14:01.980 Ottawa, uh, Dr. Nimrod would have been furious with this. He was very accomplished man. Uh,

00:14:07.540 you, you don't get the best doctors through this format.

00:14:13.660 The, this movement is also very anti-meritocratic and they're explicit about it. So no, you don't

00:14:18.160 get the best doctors. And what do Canadians want? The people who are most capable of being

00:14:22.360 the best doctors for them.

00:14:23.360 Uh, so medical schools are going down this route. Dalhousie's, uh, gone this route already. I believe

00:14:29.960 university of Alberta, uh, U of T I'm guessing can't be far behind. Uh,

00:14:36.720 Queens, my own school is, uh, they, they were excited to announce a few months ago, um, these

00:14:42.200 exciting changes. And I think they tripped over themselves many times trying to say the word

00:14:46.240 diversity in their announcement as many times as possible. So.

00:14:49.180 What was your medical school like when, when you went, uh, I mean, it's, uh, trying to find a

00:14:59.240 family doctor here in Toronto. It, you are getting doctors from all over the world. And I, I, I probably

00:15:06.540 see fewer white doctors than, than ever before. You know, isn't it, uh, uh, a huge melting pot or 0.53

00:15:13.560 mosaic in medical schools in this country already?

00:15:16.500 Absolutely. I was, I was a Queens graduate of 2009 class, uh, school of medicine, and it was a

00:15:23.200 melting pot of everyone, every ethnicity, uh, about 50, 50 men and women. It's about as even as 0.99

00:15:28.820 you can get, but we weren't divided like it is now. And all they do is they sow division between

00:15:33.660 people. I actually grew up in Toronto. I was born and raised here and race was never really talked

00:15:38.860 about. And now it seems to be the only thing we talk about.

00:15:41.920 What I remember was, and I I've used this example before I was taught what Martin Luther King

00:15:49.260 professed judge people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. And

00:15:55.820 that may have been what I was taught in, in school in the eighties, but I would say that Malcolm X is

00:16:02.720 won the day and not Martin Luther King. Uh, we know we, we now judge people based on their race,

00:16:10.060 based on their ethnicity. And, and, and the, the, the people that say they're anti-racist

00:16:15.840 demand that that is how we judge people.

00:16:20.060 They're masters of language. They've actually been quite successful in changing the definition

00:16:24.040 of racism. And now it's, it's, yeah, it's, it's gone the other way, uh, within practice,

00:16:31.700 is this talked about, or is it just the small group of activists, uh, with your fellow doctors?

00:16:38.780 I think it is talked about in, see, I practice it in the community. So I think within the academic

00:16:44.180 echo chambers, it is talked about quietly in the community, my colleagues and I, we do talk about

00:16:50.100 it for sure, but we, we can't really say it aloud. We can't broadcast say on X. There's only one

00:16:55.400 political ideology that you can broadcast loudly as you know, it's, it's what, whatever they're

00:16:59.880 saying, there are no consequences for that. But yeah, it's hard to know exactly how many people

00:17:05.640 would, uh, would be against their position, but I do have a sense that it is 90 plus percent of

00:17:10.660 physicians. We just, we can't say it. Uh, have you been called a white supremacist yet for opposing this?

00:17:16.240 Not yet. Uh, because people are listening to us and, and not watching us, uh, I'll just point out

00:17:24.380 that I don't think you're white. I might be the brown face of white supremacy. It might be a 0.97

00:17:30.940 moniker I'll get soon. Yeah. Um, you know, so, but I'm amazed they haven't called you that yet. Uh,

00:17:38.800 but I'm, I'm sure it's coming shortly. Yeah. I mean, I'm not the only one speaking out. I just,

00:17:44.000 I think I'm the most recent about this and I don't think I'll be the last one until there's a

00:17:47.980 elimination of politics from medicine. All right. Well, we need to take a quick break,

00:17:53.220 but when we come back, uh, we'll chat a bit about your book, uh, because you do have a new book out

00:17:58.100 and it is called, let me just scroll back up, uh, lost and found how meaningless living is destroying

00:18:03.700 us in three keys to fix it more in moments. The push to change how we view medicine, how we view

00:18:10.600 reality, quite frankly, isn't just happening in Canada. We've been talking about can meds with

00:18:15.920 Dr. Mark D'Souza, but Dr. D'Souza, the, uh, this issue is global. You've pointed to a UCLA medical

00:18:25.260 school. Uh, tell me about the segregated classes. I thought we were against segregation and education,

00:18:31.820 but apparently it's back in vogue at UCLA's medical school.

00:18:35.960 What's old is new again, Brian. And it seems like, uh, the, the, one of the medical schools

00:18:42.700 affiliated with the university of UCLA, they are trying segregated classes for some sessions.

00:18:49.680 They wrote this up in the new England journal of medicine a few years ago, and they seem

00:18:53.060 very proud of it as if, and, and so I use this example as an example of, you know, people may ask

00:18:58.360 me, why are you worried? It won't go that far in Canada. So I can imagine all these disaster

00:19:03.360 possibilities in Canada, but I can just stick to, for the audience, things that are happening

00:19:09.380 quite close to us. And if we keep going down this route, why wouldn't we end up with segregated 0.93

00:19:14.840 classes like UCLA? Cause it's all part of the same movement.

00:19:19.340 The, uh, the issue of gender, uh, it's not in can meds, but you are seeing it show up elsewhere.

00:19:25.940 And you were telling me that European cardiologists have removed gender from how they treat things.

00:19:34.360 Explain that because, you know, my understanding of the human body is still that men and women

00:19:38.960 are different.

00:19:41.920 This is the tide that we've been seeing and many doctors have been very worried about the

00:19:46.740 future of medicine, the actual delivery of medical care, because we could see where this

00:19:50.780 was going. And now finally you see some very objective change. The European society of cardiology

00:19:56.820 just removed the women as a risk factor for stroke. So that will have direct implications

00:20:01.960 in how we treat women or, uh, for strokes because of, uh, and they actually say that this will,

00:20:08.860 the inclusion of gender in the criteria will complicate medical practice.

00:20:13.640 So why are they removing it?

00:20:16.520 Because it gets confusing with transgender, non-binary, but in reality, yeah, women would 0.80

00:20:23.720 being a woman is a risk factor. So they will be under treated. 0.97

00:20:27.240 So, but you know, my understanding is that stroke things like strokes and heart attacks,

00:20:34.600 the symptoms and how things can be proactively dealt with or treated that, that there are differences

00:20:43.420 between men and women, uh, or am I incorrect in my thinking?

00:20:49.240 The whole array of pathology in humans has very, uh, we were trained in medical school and we learned

00:20:55.600 throughout that we, what, what, what is the age, what is the patient, what is the sex of the patient?

00:21:00.300 And that really does play into your diagnostic capabilities. This is more likely, or that is

00:21:06.480 more likely. We're going to start to miss things as gender gets really confusing and deleted from,

00:21:11.060 and women are erased from the language.

00:21:14.980 I was, you know, it's amazing that this is happening at the same time as we're, uh, getting

00:21:20.460 breakthroughs because I was reading a, an article maybe two, three months ago about how doctors have,

00:21:28.920 uh, determined some new differences in, in how to spot heart attacks and risk factors for women,

00:21:37.140 because men have been, you know, more men have heart attacks than women. They have been women,

00:21:43.560 uh, and how it shows with women that that's been overlooked and understudied. And, and so we've got

00:21:51.220 new information about, Hey, this is how heart attacks show up in women. This is how to, to spot the 1.00

00:21:58.820 signs. This is how to treat them. And now you've got these activists trying to brush all that aside

00:22:03.280 in the name of their ideology. People, I mean, I mean, uh, Dr. Venipal thinks that, uh, beer in

00:22:10.440 corner stores will kill people. This will kill people. It's quite a distraction from the changes

00:22:16.500 to medicines when you're just through activism. So yeah, this will kill people. Heart attacks 0.93

00:22:21.460 specifically in women are harder to pick up and now it's going to be even harder if you can't say 0.94

00:22:25.020 the word woman. Uh, Oh, look, I think most sensible doctors will, but if, if this is not stopped, 0.97

00:22:32.400 you know, this will show up in can meds and then this is how doctors will be treated.

00:22:38.040 And, uh, speaking with Dr. Gad Sada a little while ago about how bad ideas that start in the

00:22:45.260 sociology department in universities and get ignored, don't stay there. It's not like Vegas. They don't

00:22:50.380 stay there. This will keep spreading. And while you're fighting back against that, maybe the next

00:22:55.300 generation of doctors will say, Oh no, absolutely. We, we can't, we can't, you know, uh, determine

00:23:02.040 anything by someone's gender and we shouldn't consider gender in treating people. Uh, you know,

00:23:07.940 prostate cancer shows up the same in everyone. It doesn't have to be in Canada to get up in the

00:23:14.040 curriculum. So you think medical schools will just, uh, adopt these things over the coming years?

00:23:23.200 It's hard to say. I do worry. That's the case. Orwell did warn about how language shapes thoughts.

00:23:29.400 And you can see, even as, as a, uh, this American medical association has this document on how to

00:23:34.620 say it's pregnant persons now, or they encourage us to say assigned sex assigned at birth. They're 0.84

00:23:40.720 really pushing hard on the language. They all do in the woke mind virus. And yeah, I can't see how

00:23:46.480 that doesn't affect medical training. Yeah. I remember a little while ago, um, Marcy Ian,

00:23:54.080 the liberal MP and cabinet minister, who's in charge of, uh, women's equity. She is using this 0.68

00:24:00.360 non-gendered language. She was talking about women and referring to them as menstruators. And I can't

00:24:07.120 think of, uh, uh, a word that women would want to use to describe themselves any less than menstruators. 0.95

00:24:15.140 Uh, menstruation is a fact of life, but I've never met a single woman that enjoys it and, or would want 1.00

00:24:20.720 to be identified as you're no longer a woman, you're a menstruator. It is, uh, I actually find the, the push 0.99

00:24:29.380 on changing gender in the language is aimed more at women than men. And I've described it as an attempt

00:24:36.880 to erase women and femininity from our language. It's not happening to men and, and, and men need

00:24:44.440 to speak up, I think, but women also need to stand up and say, hell no, I am a woman. You will not refer 1.00

00:24:50.500 to me as a, a person who is pregnant, a person who menstruates. Yeah. So what have we, what have we

00:24:58.140 said has come back in vogue. So racism has come back in vogue, sexism against women, segregation.

00:25:03.620 Is this where we're headed? I, I, I think it is. Um, and, and, and that does worry me. Uh, let's talk

00:25:11.860 a bit, uh, about your book lost and found how meaning this living is destroying us in three keys

00:25:17.500 to, to fix it. What do you mean by meaningless living? Well, I actually, I wrote this to, I really

00:25:25.080 started writing to try to answer the question for myself, why we're so divided and increasingly

00:25:30.840 divided and people seem, despite how materially prosperous our society is, how empty we are

00:25:36.660 on the inside. And then at the deeper question I was asking myself at the time was, why do people

00:25:42.940 take opioids? Because I was practicing addiction medicine at that time as well. Why do you, why

00:25:47.140 do people throw young people with promising futures, throw their lives away or opioids? And

00:25:52.900 at the deepest answer I found simplistically is just to say that they really lack meaning and

00:25:56.840 purpose. So they're looking for something to fill the void. Man does not live on bread

00:26:03.840 alone. Uh, so I mean, without giving away everything, you want people to read the book. How, how do

00:26:13.240 we fix it? But I think in hindsight, this is, was my stab at a cure for the, the woke my virus.

00:26:20.060 And there's, there are three things that I organically discovered. And I think even just

00:26:24.140 one might bring us men to societal rift and bring us back together and hopefully even give

00:26:29.560 people purpose enough to stop taking opioids. So one is freedom of speech, especially for

00:26:35.520 those who you don't agree with. And you and I covered on this podcast, the importance of

00:26:40.260 especially having freedom of speech protected for good professionals. But I think if you had

00:26:44.980 freedom of speech, the whole, this, all these arguments for, uh, for women being, uh, taken

00:26:53.460 removed from, as a risk factor for, for stroke or all the, all the woke arguments disappear.

00:26:58.980 And then you sprinkle in the other two solutions. So traditional values, at least I argue for traditional

00:27:04.820 religion and then some personal responsibility. None of those things are in the progressive agenda.

00:27:10.020 The, the idea that, um, uh, there is higher purpose out there is universal, uh, regardless

00:27:18.500 of your faith or, or lack of it, even atheists I know will say, um, that there is a higher purpose

00:27:26.860 or a calling. That's part of what you talk about in the book. I'm, you know, you can have

00:27:34.440 your own faith, you can have something else, but you need a, a, a purpose. And I think a lot

00:27:39.340 of people have, have lost that in, in, in the way that we've organized society now.

00:27:44.980 Right. And fall for these, what I call replacement religions or just any faulty belief systems. So 0.95

00:27:50.120 the middle part of the book is walking people through the most popular replaced religions

00:27:54.980 or faulty belief systems. I actually have the, uh, the whole episode that you documented quite

00:28:00.260 well on the math is racist is in there because I thought it was a great example, how languages

00:28:05.520 used to distort, distort, uh, thought. And I also walked people through, uh, the climate

00:28:11.980 alarmism as a replacement religion. I used one of your colleagues, um, Lori Goldstein's excellent

00:28:17.520 reporting on the, on emissions targets, failed candidate Canadian emissions target, which

00:28:23.220 was really helpful. Uh, it's, uh, Lori has done amazing work on that. And, uh, there's no doubt

00:28:30.200 that climate alarmism has become a religion and, you know, it, it is, you see the people

00:28:37.700 that will glue themselves to, uh, a road or, uh, an artistic masterpiece. They're so devoted

00:28:47.560 to that. They have, uh, replaced any other faith with their, this new belief system. And

00:28:53.740 it leads to any belief system can lead to extremism, but there are some extreme, uh, to use Pierre

00:29:00.360 Pauliev's word, uh, of late wackos, uh, within that movement. Yeah. I even have a chapter doing

00:29:08.040 the cowdog diversity, equity, inclusivity, which, which is part of this canvans in the woke

00:29:12.760 movement. That, that is what it is all about. Uh, the book is out, uh, just over, uh, a couple

00:29:19.580 of weeks now it is called lost and found how meaningless living is destroying us in three

00:29:24.240 keys to fix it by Mark D'Souza. Uh, Mark, thanks so much for the time today. And thanks

00:29:29.560 for, uh, the book. Uh, I have not read it yet, but trust me, I will. And keep us updated

00:29:34.880 on your fight against, uh, the, the insanity within the medical school. I know that you're

00:29:41.000 not alone. Definitely. Thank you so much for having me, Brian.

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Full Comment - October 21, 2024

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