Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - May 15, 2024


Can Common Sense Make Its Way Back to Politics?


Episode Stats

Length

37 minutes

Words per Minute

142.04958

Word Count

5,344

Sentence Count

2

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

8


Summary

Nicole Shanahan is the running mate of independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is running for president as an independent. She is an attorney, an entrepreneur, a lifelong California resident, and a lifelong Democratic Party voter.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 hey everybody welcome back to the gains for girls podcast today's guest is the running mate of
00:00:13.180 independent presidential candidate robert f kennedy jr that's right we're talking to nicole
00:00:18.600 shanahan his vice presidential pick super excited for this conversation nicole's an attorney she's
00:00:24.840 entrepreneur she's a lifelong californian she's young which is certainly a unique element to bring
00:00:33.240 to the political sphere uh this conversation follows the conversation that sage steel had with
00:00:40.240 both rfk and nicole in separate conversations sage has been on the gains for girls podcast i encourage
00:00:47.500 you to go watch that episode she is a role model of mine for a variety of reasons but i thought what
00:00:53.320 she did in her podcast um the sage steel show was just incredible she talked to rfk she asked him
00:01:00.640 his stance on abortion uh he said he had no problem with a woman carrying nine months the full term
00:01:08.220 deciding that last day uh that she wanted to abort her child he had no problem with that uh which this
00:01:16.760 this clip of him saying this went went viral understandably but then sage steel interviewed
00:01:22.160 nicole the same guest we have on the podcast today and asked her her stance or what she thought of rfk's
00:01:28.560 response when asked this question uh which i think in a sense contradicted what rfk said i encourage
00:01:35.340 everyone to go watch this but again couldn't be more excited for mine and nicole's conversation today
00:01:40.780 of course we will get into all things women's sports we will talk about the issues of gender affirming
00:01:49.020 care we will talk about big tech we will talk about what's going on on college campuses lots of
00:01:54.060 great stuff ahead so check out the interview here with nicole shanahan nicole thank you so much for
00:02:00.740 joining the gains for girls podcast uh i was just telling you off camera i could not be more honored
00:02:05.340 and grateful to have you on uh but i wanted you to take the opportunity to give a little background
00:02:10.940 on yourself and how you and robert f kennedy got connected in the first place it's true thing well
00:02:17.920 riley first of all it's an honor to be chatting with you your leadership in this moment right now
00:02:23.880 is so important and i'm such a fan of yours i am in awe of your bravery and and i am fully behind you
00:02:32.140 in this journey um so how i met bobby all right bobby um kennedy is running for president as an
00:02:41.160 independent and i first heard about him about a year ago i am a mother to a daughter impacted by
00:02:50.820 chronic disease and like all moms in this situation i've been looking for a way to help my kid out
00:02:59.400 um trying to understand what's been going on with her and how it came to be um that this baby girl
00:03:07.700 that i gave birth to um who was healthy uh all of a sudden started having all these very serious health
00:03:16.260 issues and um i have been aligned with researchers scientists i i run a foundation that invests in
00:03:27.480 scientific um research predominantly in women's health and reproductive um issues uh i i don't fund
00:03:36.580 um artificial um reproductive support but i do fund trying to understand how to get healthy women
00:03:44.580 healthier how to help women overcome chronic disease and so i had been in this space and i i had
00:03:50.780 heard about bobby's work as an attorney um oftentimes defending a lot of mothers and parents and families of
00:03:59.820 children impacted um by adverse reactions to pharmaceutical products and um i'm a lifelong democrat here in
00:04:11.400 california it's uh it was something that always intrigued me was this idea of participating in the
00:04:20.500 political process um but to be honest with you the last uh eight years i've grown increasingly tired
00:04:27.860 with our two-party system increasingly tired with the democratic party that i had given so much to
00:04:34.040 over the years and i just i could not in my right mind continue to support this group of people and
00:04:42.520 and and the elitism within the party um and and just the disrespect of young voices i i just was i couldn't i just
00:04:52.680 couldn't handle um the the incredible lack of integrity within the party and so i was looking for a new
00:05:02.300 political home um and i saw bobby kennedy running on the democratic primary and i got behind him because
00:05:11.220 i believe that this was an individual who really cared about the american family the american mother
00:05:18.200 and the american child and uh he had showed he's been showing up for the american public for generations
00:05:27.760 i i mean two generations now you know he's he's 70 years old and he's been at this for um the majority
00:05:35.420 of his career over 40 years i mean that's that is something that i find to be worthy of a lot of
00:05:43.240 support and respect in this moment and uh i when he decided to run as an independent i was naturally
00:05:51.140 very concerned we've never had an independent uh successful independent presidential candidate
00:05:57.560 ever in american history so this would be the first one and i i actually believe more every
00:06:04.260 single day that this is going to be our first independent presidential candidate uh that will be
00:06:10.360 successful uh in november's election so i've thrown the entirety of of you know what i can do behind
00:06:19.360 him and when he uh asked me to be his running mate i i was very humbled i um was nervous but i i was very
00:06:32.200 proud to say yes very very proud to say yes because um there's there's an opportunity here in this moment
00:06:40.120 to bring new voice to leadership that isn't conflicted out by some corporate interest uh that that really
00:06:48.920 understands what it means to be um in america today it's different than it was 30 years ago
00:06:56.040 um the issues for example what you've dealt with riley this is new our parents generation didn't have to
00:07:04.520 deal with this um and so we need young voices in the white house right now guiding us through this
00:07:10.640 moment and and i'm happy to speak on behalf of millennials um and of gen z um and of gen alpha
00:07:21.680 of course i know they just keep coming huh um but you definitely offer that unique uniqueness in the
00:07:30.220 political sphere as a whole and being young and listening to you uh kind of speak to almost i mean of
00:07:36.720 course the polarization that we see across the country uh speaking to how the left seemingly left
00:07:44.160 you again given the fact that you're a young woman it reminds me of tulsi gabbard who has just been
00:07:48.640 uh a fierce and phenomenal leader uh whether you agree with her or not i mean it doesn't matter she's
00:07:55.620 she's really been just a a phenomenal leader which is something that we need more of in this country
00:08:01.940 uh and you you mentioned the sports stuff uh what has um gone on again in the divisive nature that
00:08:10.780 it has where it's it's almost entirely fallen on party lines of allowing males into women's sports
00:08:19.760 women's locker rooms of course we just saw the administration in the white house right now uh rewrite
00:08:25.940 title nine the federal civil rights law that prevents sex-based discrimination on educational
00:08:32.280 programs that receive federal funding which is in total contrast to what president trump has said uh
00:08:39.060 what he has said he will do if he gets into the white house on day one and essentially reversing course
00:08:44.700 of this uh what does this look like from you know from the presidential standpoint of what you and
00:08:53.080 kennedy would do in the white house okay there there's i i want to approach this as as a woman who
00:09:04.760 did play high school varsity sports i um competed in cross country and softball um i coached swimming
00:09:16.620 actually for a summer league in oakland and and i competed um in college not at your level riley but
00:09:24.740 i did compete um in in college uh cross country at my university we were division four but you know
00:09:31.260 nonetheless it it it gave me some insight into the the incredible amount um of responsibility student
00:09:40.940 athletes take on it is an enormous responsibility to juggle what is a you know is essentially a near
00:09:53.580 professional level um expectation for competition and as well as coursework um being a college student
00:10:03.620 which is getting harder and harder every day the demands are harder and harder on college students
00:10:08.760 um and so i i think that we need to understand before we start throwing around um you know these
00:10:20.140 massive changes that just really fundamentally restructure how we think about these sports we need
00:10:28.040 to remember our athletes and who they are as people and the journeys they have been on since they were
00:10:35.440 little little little kids since you were a little girl you were working your butt off and you dreamed
00:10:42.580 of competing at that level and you worked and you gave your all and those dreams are what make
00:10:50.020 everything we endeavor in our passions powerful um to overcome our limits to set new personal records
00:11:02.100 and so i want to i want to always highlight that before we get into you know what the president ought to be
00:11:10.260 doing um when you were competing against uh someone who was born male that that was once a little boy
00:11:21.080 who was swimming and dreaming of being a famous swimmer and and and there's a reason why from a young young
00:11:28.200 age little girls compete against little girls and little boys compete against little boys because
00:11:34.840 there's a gen there's a biological fundamental difference and and that is something that we accept as
00:11:45.860 as as a norm because these are immutable unchangeable differences in there and they're sacred
00:11:57.120 differences too these are sacred sacred differences and we respect those differences and so how did we
00:12:05.200 become such a misguided nation that we've arrived to this moment where you know if you're in college or
00:12:13.980 after that point we can somehow shift that narrative with such arbitrary thoughtless carelessness
00:12:21.860 doesn't make any sense so what's actually going on what is actually going on that there are now so many
00:12:33.020 young people confused about who they are what is going on that parents are capitulating to children
00:12:42.020 who are fearful of puberty i mean let's be honest most of us are fearful of puberty i was fearful of going
00:12:48.620 through puberty i i i remember that right i i think most of us women were just like of course this is
00:12:57.800 really you know like i've got breast coming in yeah it's an uncomfortable time you know to be 13 14
00:13:06.320 years old in middle school nonetheless it would be weird if you felt right in your body at that point in
00:13:12.600 time yes it and it is completely the norm to feel uncomfortable about puberty i would say safely that
00:13:23.560 a hundred percent of us feel uncomfortable doing during puberty and so the fact that we have doctors
00:13:29.300 or that we are normalizing um you know addressing that with puberty blockers is a form of absurdity to
00:13:39.380 me and bobby and bobby feels this way too now that he's he had a chance to really dig into it and and
00:13:45.700 we're i think we all have to just remember how we felt when we were 13 and um you know the answer is not
00:13:53.260 blocking puberty i mean how that is that is a form of of absolute disgrace the the answer
00:14:01.720 is helping our young people understand what's going what they're going through and that is very very
00:14:11.600 natural to to you know question and explore that but but a child cannot consent their brains aren't
00:14:22.900 developed you know our our prefrontal cortex isn't fully developed our prefrontal cortex which has
00:14:28.420 executive executive executive executive executive control of the rest of our brain does not fully
00:14:33.560 develop until our early 20s right so to allow someone to to even a child who doesn't really even
00:14:45.280 fundamentally understand puberty itself to then be able to consent to understanding what a puberty
00:14:52.580 blocker is biologically and and then a parent or a doctor who is taking that at face value and
00:15:03.500 prescribing puberty blockers i mean that is gross negligence um it's gross negligence in parenting and
00:15:10.080 it's gross negligence um from the medical profession so you know i think we need to address that um
00:15:17.580 and that that then fixes a lot of the upstream issues i mean what they've done with title nine
00:15:24.340 is a weird messed up form of virtue signaling that that has the opposite effect um and and it has no
00:15:35.740 place it has absolutely no place um in in america
00:15:42.600 i'm happy to hear you say and really be so firm on all fronts um kennedy you know he went from saying
00:15:53.500 that the parents should ultimately have the final say and approval to these treatments including
00:15:59.400 puberty blockers and hormone therapy to ultimately then kind of reversing course as you mentioned having
00:16:05.800 dug into the topic a little bit more i'm sure hearing from those around him people who have been
00:16:11.340 impacted i think more importantly by this movement to saying um as you've communicated this is something
00:16:17.500 that should be reserved for individuals who are adults and so you mentioned digging into this i mean
00:16:23.260 what did that look like from y'all's perspective um and to speak to to again what president trump has
00:16:30.880 vowed to do vowing to use um the full power of the executive branch and revoking president biden's
00:16:38.960 what he calls cruel policies and child abuse uh on so-called gender affirming care um again what is
00:16:47.360 what does this look like um under the rfk campaign i you know certainly there's a power in the executive
00:16:56.580 office this should have never been an issue of biden's to take on it was incredibly misguided
00:17:03.080 um we have to look at medical professionals and and allowing all medical professionals to figure
00:17:11.000 out what is proper in this instance i mean these are medical professionals that should be trained in
00:17:17.100 childhood development who should know that it is incredibly reckless um to be first it's just it's
00:17:28.280 even hard to say but but to be describing puberty blockers to children when they are going through
00:17:37.520 and we all go through identity crisis in middle school my um my aunt used to call it the awkward
00:17:47.440 year she would say you remember when you were in your awkward years it is awkward for a hundred
00:17:53.560 person there is we've all been there and we're the medical profession to be ignoring something so
00:18:03.120 fundamental um to childhood development is is the biggest problem and so you know for trump i i commend
00:18:11.840 trump for taking a stand on this um bobby as well um is taking a stand on this very publicly now and you
00:18:19.480 know certainly the executive office is a place that we need to course correct for what biden has done
00:18:25.300 um and so whoever is in in the white house next year whether it be um bobby or trump uh you know there
00:18:35.600 is a guarantee that there will be a course correction of what i view as blatant executive office overreach
00:18:42.260 in this situation um biden is not a doctor he is not um working with uh childhood development experts on
00:18:50.820 this and you know it's it it's it's a disgrace it's a disgrace that it's been turned into
00:18:58.100 a political issue um and you know riley the thing that i think is important for american politics to return
00:19:10.080 to is is really understanding um how much is being corrupted in our political process for pandering to
00:19:21.400 populations for votes and um and and a willingness to throw out common sense in those moments and we
00:19:30.520 cannot keep throwing out our common sense to pander um to an election process we've got to remember
00:19:38.460 common sense has always got to come before party common sense has always got to come um before you know
00:19:45.980 an election year it has to be the thing that needs to come first in an election year not second or last
00:19:52.500 or something that we'll fix once we're in office um and uh not nothing about this speaks to logic
00:20:01.280 um nothing about this speaks to reasonableness um in the sense of you know just we have
00:20:10.740 there are a multitude of ways to address this um and and biden stepping out there and and taking
00:20:18.500 executive power and and doing what he did and and you know trump's response is it makes sense is
00:20:25.520 meeting it head on but i think bobby's response is you know let's actually get to the root of the issue
00:20:30.900 here um that's what this campaign's all about we got to get to the root of the issue and figure out
00:20:36.480 what is going on um with these kids at a young age and what is going on with the medical profession
00:20:44.920 right and that's that's we're going to spend all of our time well that's amazing that's good news to
00:20:52.460 hear and i think something that uh certainly the overwhelming majority of common sense americans who
00:20:59.960 intuitively know that men and women are different uh common sense americans who who understand their
00:21:07.020 their children are their children they do not belong to the government i think a lot of people will be
00:21:12.600 happy to hear that i wanted to get your perspective on what's going on on these college campuses uh we
00:21:21.040 have seen this this i mean seemingly a revolution on college campuses break out because of what's going
00:21:27.880 on in the middle east uh we saw just recently where columbia canceled their their college
00:21:34.840 graduation i mean these are students who uh i mean they delayed gratification they they stayed up late
00:21:41.540 they woke up early uh they created friendships and and personal relationships that will serve them for
00:21:47.180 the rest of their lives and ultimately for their university to come back and deny them of the proper and
00:21:52.940 adequate celebration and recognition uh that being college graduation and so i kind of just wanted to
00:21:59.380 ask you you know what would you do if you were the president of columbia in this scenario it's a real
00:22:08.200 shame what's been going on across college campuses and if it was all organic within these student
00:22:16.040 movements it wouldn't look like this this is not an organic student movement by any measure um there's
00:22:23.100 coordination i saw this happen with blm you know i saw very very well-intentioned people i've been
00:22:29.520 working in criminal justice reform working with all these community organizations and all of a sudden
00:22:34.200 blm explodes into this national movement and and and i've worked with community organizers there is no
00:22:43.220 single community organization in the united states that can move with that level of sophistication so
00:22:48.680 there are other players here there is undoubtedly other players here the same thing is happening
00:22:54.320 um on college campuses you know i'll tell you my my little campus university of puget sound doesn't have
00:23:01.500 this going on this is only happening at the most elite institutions um so they are intentionally being
00:23:09.060 targeted and they are intentionally being politicized um you know riley i a hundred percent have i i i am a
00:23:22.100 protester so i'm an activist when i was in high school i led a walkout of my school and a peaceful protest
00:23:31.560 to protest the um war in iraq i was a uh junior in high school when 9-11 happened and i was devastated for
00:23:44.140 our country and i mourned our country um with everyone in the nation was mourning and then when i saw the
00:23:53.060 movement to go into iraq um i was devastated as well and i started the mourning as well um and i led a
00:24:05.560 i did the pamphlets i led a peaceful protest we were in partnership with the school um we walked
00:24:13.640 two miles to our local radio station and we gave interviews and we had signs and you know this this is
00:24:22.340 this is what a protest in america is supposed to look like what is going on on these college
00:24:28.620 campuses is not that it's it's a far cry from that and to make it to escalate the message of war
00:24:39.420 between muslims and jews is the wrong course of action right now i think that um the i i've i've seen
00:24:50.260 one uh head of school make a very powerful statement and and give students every opportunity
00:24:57.980 to side with peaceful protest and said anyone who is not peaceful protesting will be expelled um and
00:25:06.460 and that is fair that is a very very fair approach to this welcome peaceful protest and expel those that
00:25:15.440 are are are are are are not able to understand fundamentally what is expected of them as a
00:25:23.200 as a student of this institution you know as a student um and i feel this way of you know being
00:25:30.880 a child of an immigrant but we have a very high responsibility to act in in peace and partnership
00:25:41.640 with our fellow students um and and as an immigrant we have a responsibility to act in peaceful relationship
00:25:50.380 peaceful and productive relationship with our fellow countrymen and and we are a nation of immigrants
00:25:57.740 it is our responsibility to remember the immigrants that came before us and how they handled these moments
00:26:06.020 in american history there is no excuse for bringing anything other than that into this country yeah
00:26:12.760 that's again it's it's strong to hear my husband uh he's an immigrant he came over from from europe from
00:26:19.660 england um and it's been a struggle for him you know as a hard-working honest man who loves america he
00:26:28.960 loves this country but even given the fact that we've been married uh two years this month
00:26:33.960 uh he still doesn't have his green card so it's it's of course you know at least speaking to the
00:26:41.080 immigration side of things uh what we have seen on that front has has made it harder for people who do
00:26:46.560 it the right and honest and ethical way that it should be done uh one thing that i've been uh impressed
00:26:54.420 with on on the kennedy campaign is your response to big tech and censorship and so i wanted to ask you
00:27:03.060 you know what needs to happen what does the government need to do to make meta or or google stop censoring
00:27:12.120 content i guess more so um places like those you know how do they how should they make decisions about
00:27:22.040 what to and what not to censor hmm it's uh it's been really disappointing to be in silicon valley and watch
00:27:35.020 what's happened to some of these companies here um you know i i was married to the co-founder of google
00:27:47.040 we've been separated for over two years um we met in 2014 and you know at the time we met tech was for good
00:27:58.200 tech you know google was the thing that helped me you know get out of poverty like it was the thing
00:28:08.900 that helped me figure out how to apply to colleges um how to complete research papers when
00:28:15.940 i couldn't get a ride to the library um so we have to remember how good tech once was in order for us to
00:28:25.900 understand how far we've come right tech today has infiltrated every aspect of our lives um i just spent
00:28:38.060 an hour and a half yesterday with an attorney talking about the smith munt act oftentimes called the news
00:28:44.380 the state propaganda act because it's it's a billion dollar fund um that goes through an agency called
00:28:52.340 the us agm and they're allowed to create media and it doesn't have to be labeled and it can go out all
00:29:00.500 over the world including the united states um and it can and pitch ideas on behalf of the government
00:29:07.340 um and so and they're using social media you know they're pitching ideas the us agm the government
00:29:14.920 is putting out news in social media and it's not being labeled as government-sponsored news
00:29:21.500 so you know the role of these tech platforms today is is exceedingly important um and it strikes me that
00:29:33.160 many of these platforms have forgotten what the constitution says and what our bill of rights say
00:29:40.280 and what our first amendment is all about um it's it's very very troubling that the line between
00:29:49.760 government media and private sector media has been so blurred um and you know bobby will say this but
00:30:00.420 if you look at what citizens united did and you look at who the big big funders are um of you know the
00:30:08.980 democratic party today those big big powerful funders are putting in tens 50 million 60 million dollars
00:30:16.440 sometimes over 100 million dollars into a political party and what happens when that when that kind of
00:30:26.240 financial relationship occurs is that there becomes this this ranking system of of who gets to call the
00:30:33.780 shots within government and who gets the ear of our leadership first um and then the inverse is true
00:30:41.680 and and then you have agencies now that are policing these companies and they're making deals with them
00:30:48.140 um and and and some of those deals are like well you know you've done all of these things that people are
00:30:55.120 upset about but here's here's what we'll do you know we'll try to work something out if you guys agree
00:31:01.880 to x y and z and so now you have a this additional blurring that's happening so it's this tug of war this
00:31:10.080 this um roulette almost of you know with our with our liberties we're playing we're gambling with
00:31:20.640 american liberties so that these huge corporations are able to continue to operate without the government
00:31:30.640 imposing restrictions and scrutiny on them and and that that's not the kind of trade we ought to be
00:31:37.280 making and and promoting that that's the kind of trade that erodes at the very spirit of this country
00:31:43.900 we can't keep making those trades so you know this whole um focus on ending corporate capture
00:31:52.120 of our agencies and corporate capture of our political system is what bobby kennedy is is all i'm all about
00:32:00.560 that's his primary platform right well again um it's wonderful to hear i know we've we've extended
00:32:09.100 our time but i i just wanted to give you again kind of a an opportunity to speak to other issues
00:32:16.860 other debates things going on that will be important to to your campaign to to kennedy's campaign
00:32:23.800 uh and what will be kind of that first action item if he gets to the white house well there are several
00:32:31.520 action items i mean bobby's going to be working on unraveling corporate capture from day one
00:32:36.620 um and part of that is going to really impact i believe these issues around title nine certainly
00:32:44.820 taking executive action against title nine is important but i think we've got to get to the root cause of
00:32:49.280 all of these things and i think once we take big pharma out of treating our children because you
00:32:56.920 know they're selling these puberty blockers who's making these puberty blockers pharmaceutical companies
00:33:02.000 so you got to follow the money and we're not going to let that we're not going to let that continue
00:33:07.120 we it's it is abusive to our children it is abusive to our mothers it is abusive to nature
00:33:16.880 um and it it it's not right for these kids i mean now we're hearing from all of these kids who
00:33:24.500 are now adults and you know they can't they can't feel anything like they can't connect because they
00:33:33.300 literally have been pumped full of chemicals that have made it impossible for them to have these
00:33:41.900 beautiful sensory experiences that are just foundational to enjoying being a human and so i think um you know
00:33:54.920 riley bobby is going to get in there and we're going to get to the root causes of things we're not going
00:33:59.820 to keep you know spitting hate at anyone we're going to follow the money um that's what he's been doing
00:34:08.520 his whole career his entire career has been around this he's the most set up for this incredibly arduous
00:34:19.000 task he's not going to back down he's had every threat lobbied at him he's not going to stop and you
00:34:27.540 know i'm going to be right there making sure he has all the team and support he needs to get it done
00:34:33.360 i'm going to be out there you know just speaking on behalf of women mom families you know supporting
00:34:43.200 dads who are you know good family men and i'm going to be out there helping you get to the root cause
00:34:51.040 of many of these social ills that we are facing today i want to see a healthy america again with clean
00:34:56.560 clean food clean soil you know the the food that you and i ate when we were competing again you always
00:35:04.720 you compete at a much higher level than me so i don't want to make that comparison but you know the
00:35:09.960 the the food that powers young people to be successful in this world i'm going to be working
00:35:16.300 on that to make sure that we don't lose any of that in exchange for lab grown crap um that stuff has
00:35:24.520 no place um on our family kitchen table in this country so i i really want to to fight um it's
00:35:35.520 something that i've been working on uh already um taking a stance against um human engineering
00:35:43.840 trans you know i've been taking a stance against the manipulation of people to think that they must
00:35:50.040 be reliant on the pharmaceutical company to save them um so so that's what yep that first week is
00:35:58.380 going to look like when we get into the white house well those all sound like um important things
00:36:05.140 that that need to certainly be addressed and dealt with and so uh couldn't be more grateful for you
00:36:11.160 for coming on for um really articulating all of your points um things that matter so so beautifully and so
00:36:18.740 well and so uh we will certainly be cheering you on um again it's admirable when you have someone who
00:36:27.120 can acknowledge um who i mean who can really just look at something and say hey this isn't right
00:36:32.380 um and that's seemingly what what you have done and so we at least speaking for myself i really admire
00:36:38.820 that and so thank you it's it's a great privilege and honor to be able to speak with you riley the
00:36:45.260 the pleasure has been all mine you are a superstar i am so proud to know you now and i i hope we can
00:36:54.460 meet in person at some point soon thank you and good luck i don't know about you guys but a lot of
00:36:59.880 her answers surprised me definitely surprised me for the better uh she was very firm i would say on the
00:37:06.540 issues that we touched on definitely didn't sound like someone who was uh the vice presidential pick for
00:37:12.640 an independent candidate but to be fair a lot of the issues that we touched on were definitely
00:37:18.500 common sense issues i hope you guys enjoyed the interview make sure you like and subscribe and
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00:37:31.040 you moms out there had a wonderful mother's day this past week and we will see you again next week thanks
00:37:36.880 guys