Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - June 20, 2025


Caught in the Net： Online Exploitation Exposed with Senator Josh Hawley

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Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Illinois) joins Betsy and Amanda to talk about her new legislation to protect kids from online porn, her experience working with Sen. Cory Booker, and why she thinks President Trump is the best thing since sliced bread.

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00:03:43.460 We were talking to Senator Hawley today.
00:03:46.840 As I think I say it in this episode, actually,
00:03:49.620 every time he is behind, you know, sitting in his chair
00:03:53.660 and you've got witnesses up there,
00:03:54.820 he has the most fantastic line of questioning.
00:03:58.660 Really, really great.
00:03:59.740 He always gets them on the spot to where,
00:04:02.120 of course, they don't know really what to say back.
00:04:05.220 He does it so, so well.
00:04:07.020 But he's not one just for the viral sound bites or the clips.
00:04:12.020 He's actually getting stuff done,
00:04:14.600 which is rare in Washington, D.C., by the way.
00:04:17.220 We're talking about his new legislation to protect kids from online porn.
00:04:22.820 We're talking about the L.A. riots, his involvement there.
00:04:25.140 We're talking about a pro-family economy under President Trump.
00:04:29.260 So check out all of that and more with Senator Hawley right here.
00:04:32.720 Well, Senator Hawley, thank you so much for joining the Gains for Girls podcast.
00:04:38.260 Just very excited for the opportunity to talk with you.
00:04:40.840 You have been someone who has, of course, been incredibly fierce
00:04:45.400 on the issues that I care about,
00:04:48.540 the platform that I now have, the issues that I have found myself fighting.
00:04:52.080 But across the board, really one of our greatest freedom fighters in Washington, D.C.
00:04:57.280 So very grateful for you.
00:04:59.540 Before we get into anything,
00:05:01.240 we had Senator Daines on the podcast earlier this week.
00:05:04.320 And I asked him, of course, about the big, beautiful bill.
00:05:08.040 From your perspective, where do things stand?
00:05:10.600 And how do you feel about it all?
00:05:13.120 Well, I think the most important things in the big, beautiful bill
00:05:15.600 are those big, beautiful tax cuts for working people and families.
00:05:19.520 You know, and congratulations on your news, by the way.
00:05:22.060 That's terrific.
00:05:22.820 And what we ought to do is what the president has said we should do,
00:05:25.480 which is give every working family in this country a tax cut.
00:05:29.300 And if you've got kids, you ought to get a tax cut.
00:05:32.400 If you're expecting kids, you ought to get a tax cut.
00:05:34.680 And one of the best things that the president has proposed to do in this bill
00:05:37.700 is to make the child tax cut even bigger for every working family in this country.
00:05:42.760 No taxes on tips, no taxes on overtime.
00:05:45.300 And this is stuff that will really help working people immediately, right away.
00:05:50.020 And for my money, that's the centerpiece of this bill.
00:05:52.520 I think it's the most important thing we can do in this legislation
00:05:55.480 is to really help working families get their feet under them.
00:05:59.360 Yeah, I don't know who could oppose that.
00:06:01.600 What's the next step in advancement for this bill?
00:06:05.580 Well, the Senate will hopefully vote on it here in the next week or two.
00:06:08.900 And then it's back to the House and then hopefully off to the president.
00:06:11.900 So, I mean, I hope this process will move really quickly.
00:06:15.400 I mean, my view is the president has done so much by executive order.
00:06:18.920 And of course, a lot of that in the areas that you care most about.
00:06:22.180 I mean, protecting women's sports, getting rid of this crazy gender ideology that's out there. 1.00
00:06:27.140 He has done tremendous work by executive order.
00:06:29.240 The Congress needs to come alongside now and actually legislate.
00:06:32.040 I mean, we need to make this stuff permanent.
00:06:33.540 We need to write it into law.
00:06:35.400 So my perspective is the quicker we move on this bill, the better.
00:06:39.140 There is a lot of work to do here.
00:06:40.700 Yeah, that's right.
00:06:41.900 Speaking of all the insane gender stuff that has really plagued this nation, you really 1.00
00:06:48.220 have been one of the best in terms of line of questioning when you have these people
00:06:52.000 in front of you, whether it's NCAA president Charlie Baker, whether it's the president of
00:06:57.400 the Human Rights Campaign, president of the National Women's Law Center.
00:07:00.420 You really just have such a way of this.
00:07:02.840 Unfortunately, we are seeing these blue states continue to double down on these regressive 0.99
00:07:08.920 and discriminatory and harmful policies, even, of course, including, I believe most insidiously,
00:07:16.240 allowing minors to undergo irreversible procedures without parental consent.
00:07:21.140 How dangerous is this?
00:07:22.320 Of course, you hear from people all the time.
00:07:24.380 And what can we do as citizens?
00:07:27.120 And what can you all do in your position to help push back against this?
00:07:30.200 It's extremely dangerous.
00:07:31.800 I mean, there's nothing that is worse, as you just said, than having a minor child have 0.54
00:07:37.360 their body completely altered, be sterilized for life.
00:07:41.200 In the state of Missouri, where I'm from, we have banned that.
00:07:43.920 We have banned all of these so-called gender transition surgeries and treatments for minors.
00:07:48.480 And I'd like to see that become a federal rule.
00:07:51.720 I mean, it just ought to be an across-the-board, nationwide rule that you cannot sterilize a 1.00
00:07:59.100 minor.
00:07:59.780 I mean, this is just wrong.
00:08:01.240 It's just morally wrong.
00:08:02.660 It's wrong in every sense of the word.
00:08:04.180 What can we do about the blue states who are defying the law?
00:08:07.500 I think that the administration is right to have the Department of Justice go after them.
00:08:11.220 I mean, why are they getting federal funding?
00:08:12.660 Why are they getting Title IX funding for women's sports if they are destroying women's sports by 0.77
00:08:17.880 putting biological men into women's locker rooms, into women's competitions? 1.00
00:08:22.200 So they ought to get all of their federal funding for their universities yanked.
00:08:25.520 They ought to get their Title IX funding revoked.
00:08:28.480 We ought to pass a law nationwide that says no gender transition surgeries for minors. 0.97
00:08:34.060 I'd say the other thing we ought to do, Riley, that would be big, and that is give every
00:08:37.200 victim of the gender transition racket, every victim who has been sterilized, who has been 0.88
00:08:42.740 drugged, give them the chance to sue the doctors of the companies who put them through those
00:08:48.980 procedures.
00:08:49.820 I mean, that would be a game changer.
00:08:51.300 That would put power directly into the hands of victims, into the hands of individuals.
00:08:56.000 If we did that nationally, I believe we would make a huge, huge dent in the gender transition 1.00
00:09:02.480 industry, which is making gobs of money by sterilizing our kids.
00:09:06.900 We need to put a stop to it.
00:09:07.980 Yeah, no doubt.
00:09:09.440 I've talked to, I mean, seriously, hundreds of what they call themselves detransitioners, 1.00
00:09:16.400 minors oftentimes who were coaxed, who were vulnerable in a vulnerable state and believed
00:09:22.620 the lies that they were told by their healthcare providers.
00:09:26.500 I prefer the term unregulated butchery providers, oftentimes removing, I mean, body parts, of course,
00:09:33.180 being administered and taking synthetic, unnatural hormones irreversibly, really, really tragic
00:09:40.460 stuff.
00:09:40.920 I believe an important part to this would be to increase the statute of limitations to,
00:09:45.720 I mean, oftentimes, again, especially when you're doing this at 15, 16 years old, you
00:09:49.480 don't realize the harm it has done.
00:09:52.680 People like Chloe Cole, who I know you know very well, she describes it as she did this at
00:09:57.720 15, 16 years old, she woke up one random morning and realized she did have a maternal instinct.
00:10:04.040 But at that point, there's no telling what this has done to her fertility.
00:10:07.280 Of course, having your breast removed, you know at that point you cannot breastfeed.
00:10:10.820 So increasing the statute of limitations, and I certainly agree, going after these healthcare
00:10:14.800 providers, insurance companies, anyone that is allowing for this, and I think especially
00:10:20.740 those who are attempting to silence those voices, I could not agree more.
00:10:26.520 And speaking of, you've just recently introduced crucial legislation, bipartisan, by the way,
00:10:32.500 to protect kids from online porn, but speaking of giving power back to the victims, I remember
00:10:39.300 this hearing just about two years ago, I believe, where Mark Zuckerberg sat in front of your
00:10:45.900 committee, again, you were questioning him, and you had asked him, you know, have you apologized?
00:10:52.960 And he's taken aback.
00:10:54.380 Of course, I don't think he was prepared to answer this question.
00:10:57.160 It wasn't scripted.
00:10:58.520 He didn't know what to say to this.
00:11:00.660 And he almost forcibly, you forced his hand, you held his feet to the fire, he stood up,
00:11:05.220 he saw the victims behind him, who have been exploited by Meta.
00:11:09.380 I think we've got a clip of it.
00:11:11.120 Let's refresh everyone's memory really quick.
00:11:13.240 You didn't take any action, you didn't take any action, you didn't fire anybody, you haven't
00:11:17.980 compensated a single victim.
00:11:19.220 Let me ask you this, let me ask you this.
00:11:20.620 There's families of victims here today.
00:11:22.380 Have you apologized to the victims?
00:11:25.840 Would you like to do so now?
00:11:27.620 They're here, you're on national television.
00:11:29.940 Would you like now to apologize to the victims who have been harmed by your product?
00:11:33.700 Show them the pictures.
00:11:35.520 Would you like to apologize for what you've done to these good people?
00:11:38.620 Remarkable, really, that he was in this position, forced, I believe, to do this.
00:11:53.940 I don't think he would have done it otherwise.
00:11:55.980 But are apologies enough, Senator Hawley?
00:11:58.780 No, they're not enough.
00:12:00.500 I mean, that was a significant moment.
00:12:02.440 I think it's the first time maybe ever in public, at least, that Mark Zuckerberg has
00:12:06.040 been forced to look into the eyes of parents whose lives and families he's ruined, to be
00:12:11.840 honest.
00:12:12.160 And not just ruined, he's made a gob of money.
00:12:13.980 I mean, billions of dollars he's made off of, in many instances, exploiting kids, exploiting
00:12:18.860 children, pushing this false gender ideology on his platform.
00:12:22.240 Facebook met a huge, huge villain in this story in terms of what they had pushed out to
00:12:27.340 young women in particular.
00:12:29.020 And it's not enough just to say, I'm sorry.
00:12:30.760 We need to give victims the right to hold companies like Meta accountable.
00:12:34.040 I mean, right now, as you know, if you're a victim, if you've got, there's deep fake
00:12:37.960 porn of you that someone has made with AI out there. 0.54
00:12:40.840 If you've been a victim of child porn and other ways, sexual exploitation, you can't 0.95
00:12:46.320 do anything about it.
00:12:47.380 If Meta is hosting that stuff and you go to them and you say, hey, this is fake or this
00:12:52.320 is me being exploited, please take it down.
00:12:54.300 And if they just say, no, we'd rather not, you're stuck.
00:12:57.220 And that happens over and over and over.
00:12:59.820 We need to give victims and parents the right to hold these companies accountable.
00:13:05.100 And the way you do that is you allow them to get into court and you allow them to sue
00:13:08.340 these people like Zuckerberg and you allow them to get compensated.
00:13:11.260 An apology is nice.
00:13:12.540 Compensation is better.
00:13:13.920 And the best thing of all is changed behavior.
00:13:16.760 And these companies won't change. 0.99
00:13:18.420 They won't stop pushing this gender ideology garbage. 1.00
00:13:22.240 They won't stop with the child sexual exploitation material on their platforms until they feel the 1.00
00:13:28.200 pain.
00:13:28.860 So we've got to give victims rights.
00:13:30.220 This past week, I went to Texas and I got to meet and spend some time with Elliston
00:13:37.680 Berry, who was really the inspiration for the Take It Down Act.
00:13:41.860 Met her family.
00:13:43.320 Just so sad.
00:13:45.240 Victim is a really good word to describe what her and her family, the situation that they
00:13:49.800 have faced and continue to face even since.
00:13:52.960 But as I said, you have recently introduced bipartisan legislation.
00:13:56.220 Can you talk about this?
00:13:57.980 And I think specifically how your home state of Missouri at the state level has been a leader
00:14:03.240 on this issue.
00:14:03.940 You guys have a fantastic attorney general who sues at every chance he can get, which I
00:14:09.140 think is, of course, the purpose of his job.
00:14:12.780 But he does a really great job.
00:14:13.940 And I believe is the gold star AG for all AGs to follow.
00:14:19.740 I agree with that 100%.
00:14:21.280 He's absolutely terrific.
00:14:22.620 And I'm really proud of our state and what we've done in terms of protecting kids, protecting
00:14:26.140 women's sports.
00:14:27.400 When it comes to child porn online, child sex abuse material, what my bill would do at the
00:14:32.520 national level is for the first time ever, it would create a right to sue if you're a
00:14:37.800 victim or if you're the parent of a victim.
00:14:40.700 So if you're somebody out there, and again, there's deep fake porn of you, or there's been
00:14:44.520 material made that is about sexual exploitation involving you, or that's happened to your kid,
00:14:49.860 you now can go and sue the companies that put this stuff on their platforms.
00:14:55.500 We're talking about Instagram.
00:14:57.260 We're talking about Google.
00:14:58.840 We're talking about Meta, of course, that owns Instagram, all of them, all of these social
00:15:03.100 media companies.
00:15:04.160 They won't be able to look the other way anymore.
00:15:06.420 What happens now is so many times, I've heard this, I can't tell you how many times, parents
00:15:10.420 and victims will go to them and they'll say, this stuff is on your platform.
00:15:14.560 Please take it down.
00:15:15.520 And they just don't do it.
00:15:16.420 They say, well, we're not sure.
00:15:18.100 We'll review it.
00:15:18.920 We'll get back to you later.
00:15:20.640 This legislation for the first time ever gives victims and parents the right to hold them
00:15:26.080 accountable.
00:15:26.980 It is way overdue.
00:15:28.320 And I believe it will be a huge game changer in protecting our kids and protecting young
00:15:33.620 women in particular and giving power back to individuals to control their own lives. 1.00
00:15:39.360 No doubt, obviously not near as severe, but I have approached Meta, reached out several
00:15:45.820 times about fake accounts that are being ran out of Bangladesh who are scamming people.
00:15:50.920 I mean, I have proof that these people running these accounts are taking money from people,
00:15:55.640 promising that they're me.
00:15:56.960 They have hundreds of thousands of followers, telling people they're in these really dire
00:16:00.400 situations.
00:16:01.380 And we can't escape if we don't have money.
00:16:03.560 This, this, and this.
00:16:04.360 Meta has done absolutely nothing about it.
00:16:07.680 So the idea of accountability is fantastic.
00:16:12.200 And again, I would imagine why there was bipartisan support there.
00:16:15.660 One other thing that you have done recently, of course, LA is back in the headlines this time
00:16:22.440 with the riots tied to ICE enforcement of violent, criminal, illegal immigrants.
00:16:28.340 But you have launched an investigation into who is funding these riots in LA.
00:16:33.820 Can you share any insight into speculations, what has already been proven, or even the
00:16:39.980 necessity for this?
00:16:41.520 Well, I think it's clear we've got to find out who's doing this.
00:16:43.680 I mean, these riots aren't spontaneous.
00:16:45.800 I mean, that's obvious.
00:16:46.680 I like to joke that they're about as organic as AstroTurf.
00:16:49.080 I mean, it's 100% fake.
00:16:50.580 It's 100% paid for.
00:16:52.160 It's 100% organized.
00:16:53.420 And we know it because you've got lefty groups online claiming it.
00:16:56.720 They're bragging about it.
00:16:57.660 They're saying, oh, yeah, this is great.
00:16:59.480 We're organizing these riots.
00:17:01.340 We're helping fund them.
00:17:02.460 We've all seen the videos of people pulling up and handing out riot gear and gas masks
00:17:07.120 and other material just before a car explodes.
00:17:09.720 You know, none of that is happenstance.
00:17:11.680 It's not an accident.
00:17:12.620 It's all planned.
00:17:14.020 So what I've said is we need to get to the bottom of who is behind this, who's funding
00:17:17.920 it.
00:17:18.100 These are bought and paid for flash mobs.
00:17:20.800 And I want to know who's doing the buying and the paying.
00:17:23.180 So we've launched a full-scale investigation in the Senate.
00:17:25.920 We'll work with the Department of Justice.
00:17:27.280 They recently, just in the last few days, launched their own investigation.
00:17:30.520 The president announced it, actually, which is terrific.
00:17:33.400 And I can tell you, we've already sent investigative demands to three different groups, front groups,
00:17:39.380 who have been out there on social media talking about their role in these riots.
00:17:43.560 And now, of course, they're trying to expand them.
00:17:45.100 And they've tried to expand them into Missouri.
00:17:46.920 They're trying to expand them into other states.
00:17:49.160 We need to nip this in the bud.
00:17:50.440 And the way you do it is figure out who's financing it.
00:17:52.720 And then when you can hold people accountable by prosecuting them, that'll be the Justice
00:17:57.520 Department's role.
00:17:58.440 And I hope that we can continue to work closely with justice.
00:18:01.540 And I can tell you any evidence that we have of crimes, we will absolutely refer to the Justice
00:18:07.060 Department for prosecution because we have got to shut down the criminal element here that's
00:18:12.380 trying to burn our cities to the ground, literally right in front of our eyes.
00:18:16.200 We have to put a stop to that.
00:18:17.520 No doubt it's what the American people voted for, overwhelmingly voted for, and not just
00:18:22.580 in the presidential election across the board in November of last year.
00:18:28.440 We voted for transparency, and that's what this is.
00:18:30.500 So thank you.
00:18:31.660 Last thing for you, I saw the photo over the weekend on X of you with your beautiful daughter
00:18:38.380 that you posted for Father's Day, where you say, of course, there's no greater joy than
00:18:42.840 being a dad.
00:18:43.720 My husband and I, as you alluded to, we are about to welcome a little girl into this world.
00:18:48.600 Can you talk about how the Trump administration is building a pro-family culture and economy?
00:18:55.600 Yeah, absolutely.
00:18:56.560 And congratulations again.
00:18:58.420 It's just there's nothing better in life or more significant than having children and
00:19:03.220 raising children.
00:19:04.000 And I said right around Father's Day to all the young men out there, you want to do something
00:19:08.060 with your life that's meaningful, man, go get married and have a family.
00:19:11.180 Raise a family, you know, raise kids with the love of your life.
00:19:16.840 You'll never regret it.
00:19:18.440 And it's just, to me, it's the most important thing.
00:19:20.600 I know it'll be the most important thing that I do with my life by far and the most meaningful
00:19:25.160 thing by far.
00:19:26.140 I think in terms of what we can do in policy and what the president's doing is we've got
00:19:29.900 to create an economy out there where if you are a young family, you can afford to have
00:19:34.580 kids.
00:19:35.220 You can afford to get health care, rather, for your kids.
00:19:38.740 And you can afford to raise them.
00:19:40.800 And we really, we need to get good jobs for people where they can support their family
00:19:44.680 on the wage that they earn, you know, where they don't need constant help from the government,
00:19:48.860 where they don't have to work multiple jobs, where you can support a family on a good wage.
00:19:52.740 So the things we were talking about earlier that the president has proposed are so key.
00:19:57.220 Those tax cuts for working people, no taxes on tips, no taxes on overtime.
00:20:01.400 You know, that really helps people who are working.
00:20:03.340 They're getting started in life, or maybe they're far along in life.
00:20:06.420 And they're like, man, I'm going to put in some overtime.
00:20:08.080 I've got a kid on the way.
00:20:09.600 That's a huge help to them.
00:20:11.340 Increasing the child tax cut is a big deal.
00:20:14.200 I mean, we ought to give every family in America a big tax cut for every kid who they
00:20:19.280 have and are raising.
00:20:20.400 It is so expensive today to have a kid and raise a kid.
00:20:24.780 And Joe Biden made it so much worse.
00:20:27.280 I mean, nobody could afford anything the last four years.
00:20:29.460 Can't afford gas, groceries, can't afford your rent.
00:20:33.420 We've got to give every working family, especially families with children, tax cuts.
00:20:38.220 And I believe that a per child tax cut is one of the best ways to do this.
00:20:42.400 You know, so if you've got one kid, great.
00:20:44.940 You're going to get a tax cut.
00:20:45.920 If you've got three kids, you're going to get three times that tax cut.
00:20:49.120 You need it if you're a working family.
00:20:51.080 So I think as we reward families, as we reward marriage, as we reward people who are having 0.86
00:20:56.700 families, it just gives people more and more control over their lives.
00:21:00.340 It encourages families.
00:21:02.520 It gives people the wherewithal to have families and raise them the way they want to.
00:21:06.580 And that has got to be for those of us who are pro-family, that has got to be the centerpiece
00:21:10.940 of what we're trying to do with policy in Washington, D.C.
00:21:14.340 Boom.
00:21:15.040 And again, I just don't know who could oppose that.
00:21:18.680 We appreciate you, Senator Hawley.
00:21:20.740 Thank you for taking time out of your day.
00:21:22.460 Uh, I cannot imagine, uh, the stress and the pressure that you all are under, uh, constantly
00:21:28.880 24 seven in the position that you are.
00:21:31.560 Uh, but we certainly appreciate you and everything that you do.
00:21:34.900 So thank you, Senator Hawley.
00:21:36.200 Thank you for having me.
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