Caught in the Net： Online Exploitation Exposed with Senator Josh Hawley
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Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Illinois) joins Betsy and Amanda to talk about her new legislation to protect kids from online porn, her experience working with Sen. Cory Booker, and why she thinks President Trump is the best thing since sliced bread.
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Wednesday, earlier this week, we had Senator Danes on,
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My brother worked for this senator over, I think, last summer.
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It's just a little intern, whatever he needed to do during his campaign.
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And he confirmed to me what I already knew, truthfully.
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I've spent an ample amount of time around this senator,
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but my brother says, look, he's just the most down-to-earth, greatest guy.
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he had Harrison Butker going around with them that day.
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My brother said it was the most amazing experience of his life.
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every time he is behind, you know, sitting in his chair
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of course, they don't know really what to say back.
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But he's not one just for the viral sound bites or the clips.
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We're talking about his new legislation to protect kids from online porn.
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We're talking about the L.A. riots, his involvement there.
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We're talking about a pro-family economy under President Trump.
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So check out all of that and more with Senator Hawley right here.
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Well, Senator Hawley, thank you so much for joining the Gains for Girls podcast.
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Just very excited for the opportunity to talk with you.
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You have been someone who has, of course, been incredibly fierce
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the platform that I now have, the issues that I have found myself fighting.
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But across the board, really one of our greatest freedom fighters in Washington, D.C.
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we had Senator Daines on the podcast earlier this week.
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And I asked him, of course, about the big, beautiful bill.
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Well, I think the most important things in the big, beautiful bill
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are those big, beautiful tax cuts for working people and families.
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You know, and congratulations on your news, by the way.
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And what we ought to do is what the president has said we should do,
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which is give every working family in this country a tax cut.
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And if you've got kids, you ought to get a tax cut.
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If you're expecting kids, you ought to get a tax cut.
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And one of the best things that the president has proposed to do in this bill
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is to make the child tax cut even bigger for every working family in this country.
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And this is stuff that will really help working people immediately, right away.
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And for my money, that's the centerpiece of this bill.
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I think it's the most important thing we can do in this legislation
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is to really help working families get their feet under them.
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What's the next step in advancement for this bill?
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Well, the Senate will hopefully vote on it here in the next week or two.
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And then it's back to the House and then hopefully off to the president.
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So, I mean, I hope this process will move really quickly.
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I mean, my view is the president has done so much by executive order.
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And of course, a lot of that in the areas that you care most about.
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I mean, protecting women's sports, getting rid of this crazy gender ideology that's out there.
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He has done tremendous work by executive order.
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The Congress needs to come alongside now and actually legislate.
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So my perspective is the quicker we move on this bill, the better.
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Speaking of all the insane gender stuff that has really plagued this nation, you really
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have been one of the best in terms of line of questioning when you have these people
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in front of you, whether it's NCAA president Charlie Baker, whether it's the president of
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the Human Rights Campaign, president of the National Women's Law Center.
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Unfortunately, we are seeing these blue states continue to double down on these regressive
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and discriminatory and harmful policies, even, of course, including, I believe most insidiously,
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allowing minors to undergo irreversible procedures without parental consent.
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And what can you all do in your position to help push back against this?
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I mean, there's nothing that is worse, as you just said, than having a minor child have
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their body completely altered, be sterilized for life.
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In the state of Missouri, where I'm from, we have banned that.
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We have banned all of these so-called gender transition surgeries and treatments for minors.
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And I'd like to see that become a federal rule.
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I mean, it just ought to be an across-the-board, nationwide rule that you cannot sterilize a
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What can we do about the blue states who are defying the law?
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I think that the administration is right to have the Department of Justice go after them.
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Why are they getting Title IX funding for women's sports if they are destroying women's sports by
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putting biological men into women's locker rooms, into women's competitions?
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So they ought to get all of their federal funding for their universities yanked.
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They ought to get their Title IX funding revoked.
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We ought to pass a law nationwide that says no gender transition surgeries for minors.
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I'd say the other thing we ought to do, Riley, that would be big, and that is give every
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victim of the gender transition racket, every victim who has been sterilized, who has been
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drugged, give them the chance to sue the doctors of the companies who put them through those
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That would put power directly into the hands of victims, into the hands of individuals.
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If we did that nationally, I believe we would make a huge, huge dent in the gender transition
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industry, which is making gobs of money by sterilizing our kids.
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I've talked to, I mean, seriously, hundreds of what they call themselves detransitioners,
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minors oftentimes who were coaxed, who were vulnerable in a vulnerable state and believed
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the lies that they were told by their healthcare providers.
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I prefer the term unregulated butchery providers, oftentimes removing, I mean, body parts, of course,
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being administered and taking synthetic, unnatural hormones irreversibly, really, really tragic
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I believe an important part to this would be to increase the statute of limitations to,
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I mean, oftentimes, again, especially when you're doing this at 15, 16 years old, you
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People like Chloe Cole, who I know you know very well, she describes it as she did this at
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15, 16 years old, she woke up one random morning and realized she did have a maternal instinct.
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But at that point, there's no telling what this has done to her fertility.
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Of course, having your breast removed, you know at that point you cannot breastfeed.
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So increasing the statute of limitations, and I certainly agree, going after these healthcare
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providers, insurance companies, anyone that is allowing for this, and I think especially
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those who are attempting to silence those voices, I could not agree more.
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And speaking of, you've just recently introduced crucial legislation, bipartisan, by the way,
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to protect kids from online porn, but speaking of giving power back to the victims, I remember
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this hearing just about two years ago, I believe, where Mark Zuckerberg sat in front of your
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committee, again, you were questioning him, and you had asked him, you know, have you apologized?
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Of course, I don't think he was prepared to answer this question.
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And he almost forcibly, you forced his hand, you held his feet to the fire, he stood up,
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he saw the victims behind him, who have been exploited by Meta.
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You didn't take any action, you didn't take any action, you didn't fire anybody, you haven't
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Would you like now to apologize to the victims who have been harmed by your product?
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Would you like to apologize for what you've done to these good people?
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Remarkable, really, that he was in this position, forced, I believe, to do this.
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I think it's the first time maybe ever in public, at least, that Mark Zuckerberg has
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been forced to look into the eyes of parents whose lives and families he's ruined, to be
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I mean, billions of dollars he's made off of, in many instances, exploiting kids, exploiting
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children, pushing this false gender ideology on his platform.
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Facebook met a huge, huge villain in this story in terms of what they had pushed out to
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We need to give victims the right to hold companies like Meta accountable.
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I mean, right now, as you know, if you're a victim, if you've got, there's deep fake
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porn of you that someone has made with AI out there.
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If you've been a victim of child porn and other ways, sexual exploitation, you can't
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If Meta is hosting that stuff and you go to them and you say, hey, this is fake or this
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And if they just say, no, we'd rather not, you're stuck.
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We need to give victims and parents the right to hold these companies accountable.
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And the way you do that is you allow them to get into court and you allow them to sue
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these people like Zuckerberg and you allow them to get compensated.
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They won't stop pushing this gender ideology garbage.
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They won't stop with the child sexual exploitation material on their platforms until they feel the
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This past week, I went to Texas and I got to meet and spend some time with Elliston
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Berry, who was really the inspiration for the Take It Down Act.
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Victim is a really good word to describe what her and her family, the situation that they
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But as I said, you have recently introduced bipartisan legislation.
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And I think specifically how your home state of Missouri at the state level has been a leader
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You guys have a fantastic attorney general who sues at every chance he can get, which I
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And I believe is the gold star AG for all AGs to follow.
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And I'm really proud of our state and what we've done in terms of protecting kids, protecting
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When it comes to child porn online, child sex abuse material, what my bill would do at the
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national level is for the first time ever, it would create a right to sue if you're a
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So if you're somebody out there, and again, there's deep fake porn of you, or there's been
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material made that is about sexual exploitation involving you, or that's happened to your kid,
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you now can go and sue the companies that put this stuff on their platforms.
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We're talking about Meta, of course, that owns Instagram, all of them, all of these social
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They won't be able to look the other way anymore.
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What happens now is so many times, I've heard this, I can't tell you how many times, parents
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and victims will go to them and they'll say, this stuff is on your platform.
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This legislation for the first time ever gives victims and parents the right to hold them
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And I believe it will be a huge game changer in protecting our kids and protecting young
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women in particular and giving power back to individuals to control their own lives.
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No doubt, obviously not near as severe, but I have approached Meta, reached out several
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times about fake accounts that are being ran out of Bangladesh who are scamming people.
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I mean, I have proof that these people running these accounts are taking money from people,
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They have hundreds of thousands of followers, telling people they're in these really dire
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And again, I would imagine why there was bipartisan support there.
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One other thing that you have done recently, of course, LA is back in the headlines this time
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with the riots tied to ICE enforcement of violent, criminal, illegal immigrants.
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But you have launched an investigation into who is funding these riots in LA.
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Can you share any insight into speculations, what has already been proven, or even the
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Well, I think it's clear we've got to find out who's doing this.
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I like to joke that they're about as organic as AstroTurf.
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And we know it because you've got lefty groups online claiming it.
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We've all seen the videos of people pulling up and handing out riot gear and gas masks
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So what I've said is we need to get to the bottom of who is behind this, who's funding
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And I want to know who's doing the buying and the paying.
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So we've launched a full-scale investigation in the Senate.
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They recently, just in the last few days, launched their own investigation.
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The president announced it, actually, which is terrific.
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And I can tell you, we've already sent investigative demands to three different groups, front groups,
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who have been out there on social media talking about their role in these riots.
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And now, of course, they're trying to expand them.
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And they've tried to expand them into Missouri.
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They're trying to expand them into other states.
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And the way you do it is figure out who's financing it.
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And then when you can hold people accountable by prosecuting them, that'll be the Justice
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And I hope that we can continue to work closely with justice.
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And I can tell you any evidence that we have of crimes, we will absolutely refer to the Justice
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Department for prosecution because we have got to shut down the criminal element here that's
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trying to burn our cities to the ground, literally right in front of our eyes.
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No doubt it's what the American people voted for, overwhelmingly voted for, and not just
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in the presidential election across the board in November of last year.
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We voted for transparency, and that's what this is.
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Last thing for you, I saw the photo over the weekend on X of you with your beautiful daughter
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that you posted for Father's Day, where you say, of course, there's no greater joy than
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My husband and I, as you alluded to, we are about to welcome a little girl into this world.
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Can you talk about how the Trump administration is building a pro-family culture and economy?
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It's just there's nothing better in life or more significant than having children and
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And I said right around Father's Day to all the young men out there, you want to do something
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with your life that's meaningful, man, go get married and have a family.
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Raise a family, you know, raise kids with the love of your life.
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And it's just, to me, it's the most important thing.
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I know it'll be the most important thing that I do with my life by far and the most meaningful
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I think in terms of what we can do in policy and what the president's doing is we've got
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to create an economy out there where if you are a young family, you can afford to have
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You can afford to get health care, rather, for your kids.
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And we really, we need to get good jobs for people where they can support their family
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on the wage that they earn, you know, where they don't need constant help from the government,
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where they don't have to work multiple jobs, where you can support a family on a good wage.
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So the things we were talking about earlier that the president has proposed are so key.
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Those tax cuts for working people, no taxes on tips, no taxes on overtime.
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You know, that really helps people who are working.
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They're getting started in life, or maybe they're far along in life.
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And they're like, man, I'm going to put in some overtime.
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I mean, we ought to give every family in America a big tax cut for every kid who they
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It is so expensive today to have a kid and raise a kid.
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I mean, nobody could afford anything the last four years.
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Can't afford gas, groceries, can't afford your rent.
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We've got to give every working family, especially families with children, tax cuts.
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And I believe that a per child tax cut is one of the best ways to do this.
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If you've got three kids, you're going to get three times that tax cut.
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So I think as we reward families, as we reward marriage, as we reward people who are having
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families, it just gives people more and more control over their lives.
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It gives people the wherewithal to have families and raise them the way they want to.
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And that has got to be for those of us who are pro-family, that has got to be the centerpiece
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of what we're trying to do with policy in Washington, D.C.
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And again, I just don't know who could oppose that.
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Uh, I cannot imagine, uh, the stress and the pressure that you all are under, uh, constantly
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Uh, but we certainly appreciate you and everything that you do.
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