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00:00:26.920 No child can consent to this. 0.63

00:00:29.240 by blocking a child's puberty, by giving them cross-sex hormones, by removing their sex organs, 0.77

00:00:34.520 you are stopping the only process through which they can psychologically, emotionally, 0.74

00:00:40.280 physically, and of course, reproductively become adults.

00:00:47.600 We're talking to Chloe Cole. She is probably the most famous, the most renowned, the most 0.97

00:00:53.280 credible detransitioner that this nation has really heard from. I would imagine many of you

00:00:59.520 know her testimony. You know that she started puberty blockers and testosterone when she was

00:01:04.460 13 years old. Then at 15 years old, she had her breasts removed. Then at 16 years old,

00:01:09.900 she decided she actually did want to be a mom one day. So she decided to detransition.

00:01:16.240 Her doctors, her doctors who initially led her down the path of transitioning, abandoned her,

00:01:21.000 leaving her for dead, essentially, as she describes it. We're talking to her today

00:01:26.100 about the current state of the gender ideology movement. We're talking to her about the legal

00:01:31.660 action that she has taken against Kaiser, which I'm so excited about. We're talking about Planned

00:01:35.400 Parenthood's role in all this. And we're talking about how her faith has evolved in the process

00:01:40.600 and how initially she didn't necessarily believe in God. She didn't think there was a God. She

00:01:44.960 describes herself as an atheist. But after seeing the pure evil that is running rampant in today's

00:01:51.420 culture, it allowed her to understand that there is something bigger, something bigger for herself

00:01:57.440 and for our salvation. Well, Chloe, thank you for joining the Riley Gaines show. I know you've told

00:02:04.600 your story no fewer than like 10,000 times online and on social media and before Congress and on

00:02:10.280 campuses and all over the world. But can you just take a very brief second and tell us a little bit

00:02:15.200 about you? Well, Raleigh, thank you so much for having me on your show. I mean, I really feel the

00:02:19.740 same way about your work and you're one of the bravest souls I know using your testimony for

00:02:25.140 the greater good. And I feel like we're kindred spirits and using these unfair things we've been

00:02:29.780 through to help protect future generations of young girls and children. So I am speaking on

00:02:35.760 the other side of the gender subjects, not from the sports perspective, but as somebody who has

00:02:40.660 actually gone through the process of a so-called medical gender transition. And this all happened

00:02:46.880 when I was a child. I believe that I was a young man rather than a woman because of things that I

00:02:53.680 now have realized were completely normal experiences. I was going through puberty, albeit a little bit

00:02:58.880 early, but I had all of the normal feelings that pretty much all women go through when they're

00:03:05.360 experiencing that really confusing part of life when you're having to grapple with the fact that

00:03:09.900 there's a lot of responsibilities, a lot of hardships that come with growing from a girl

00:03:15.160 into a young woman and the changes of puberty. I hated how rapidly my body was growing. I hated

00:03:24.160 the fact that people were commenting on things like my breasts and my growing curves. And I just

00:03:28.780 wanted to shrink. I didn't want anybody to see that part of me. And I was also quite a bit of

00:03:32.820 tomboy, you know? But these normal experiences I was going through, my doctors took it as something

00:03:40.320 that meant that I actually was the opposite sex. And rather than challenging this view I had that

00:03:46.280 I was a young boy, they went with it and they allowed it to determine pretty much the entire

00:03:51.180 course of my adolescence. So from 13 to 16 years old, I was going through the medical pathway,

00:03:57.560 starting with puberty blockers, testosterone. And I went through surgery at 15 to remove my

00:04:05.460 breasts when very shortly afterward, I learned I want to become a mother one day. I'm a very

00:04:11.340 feminine woman and I want to go through these beautiful parts of life that I've never thought

00:04:16.520 of before. I didn't know I wanted to become married. I didn't know I wanted to become a

00:04:20.160 wife or to have children. All it took for me to wake up from this was just growing up a little

00:04:26.360 bit. And that was how I learned that is the antidote. And I have since been determined to

00:04:33.500 use my story to help other children, to create laws and create change in the culture that will

00:04:41.240 ensure that future generations will never know the pain that comes with living through the life 1.00

00:04:47.240 of transgenderism. And I brought my message on campus and across the country, across the world. 1.00

00:04:52.300 and I believe that one day we are going to be a world that will value children as they are

00:04:58.760 dignified from conception all the way throughout their lives. I long await the day and I know you

00:05:05.140 do too. You said you went through this surgery at 15 years old. Clearly not yet an adult but the

00:05:12.520 other side even still I mean insists that this isn't really happening. Kids aren't really getting

00:05:18.500 these surgeries but you're proof that what they're saying is not the case and it is happening right

00:05:24.580 yes and this argument is so tired because first of all it's obviously untrue i have gone through

00:05:33.400 this i have extensive medical records for anybody who who doesn't believe that's happening because

00:05:38.640 i'm currently in a lawsuit actually against my doctors who did this to me every single one of

00:05:43.040 them, but I know of hundreds of other people personally who have gone through this at different

00:05:48.800 stages of their lives, including some of them earlier than me. I know a woman in my area who

00:05:54.020 had some of the same doctors who was 13 years old when they removed her breasts. And when they see

00:06:02.560 people like us, many of them will then start to admit, okay, this is something that happened,

00:06:07.760 but it's actually a good thing because they got the care that they asked for, and it might not

00:06:12.640 have worked out for them, they say, well, things like knee surgery, right? They have a lower

00:06:17.600 recorded regret rate, which is very obviously, it's very obvious which of these surgeries is

00:06:24.780 more easy to regret because one of them isn't even addressing a physical health issue. It's

00:06:29.360 entirely mental, but it's, they, they will say, well, there, there are other, there are other

00:06:36.640 children who greatly benefit from this, who don't regret it. But I think that the, what is making

00:06:42.360 that what makes it so evil is not just the regret the lifelong regret that it makes these children

00:06:49.040 who grow into an adults and lack these very adult parts of life later on feel the the harm is in the

00:06:56.920 treatment itself do you feel like you had proper informed consent to make these decisions at you

00:07:04.940 know 13 14 15 as you said you went through this until you were 16 years old do you feel like you

00:07:09.740 had proper informed consent no child can consent to this we've determined that children are not

00:07:19.220 considered adults until they are 18 years of age and to do this to anybody below that age is

00:07:27.520 stripping them of their human rights their right to one day to to become to fully become adults 0.55

00:07:37.960 in the realest sense, because by blocking a child's puberty, by giving them cross-sex 0.86

00:07:43.460 hormones, by removing their sex organs, you are stopping the only process through which

00:07:48.920 they can psychologically, emotionally, physically, and of course, reproductively become adults.

00:07:55.640 But if you're not yet at an age where you have the maturity or worldly experience to be able to

00:08:01.080 know just how important these things in life, that all this affects your future fertility,

00:08:07.320 your ability to have children one day and to experience a healthy marriage.

00:08:13.580 Is there part of you now that's concerned about your fertility because of the different chemicals

00:08:19.520 and hormones that you were putting in your body? Are these concerns for you as well?

00:08:24.540 What led to my detransition was me realizing that this could have taken away my fertility

00:08:29.840 because of how young I was when I was going through this. And that is a very real fear for

00:08:36.660 me to this day. It's something that I've had to grapple with for over five years now, but I

00:08:43.260 naively thought at 13, I'm never going to want to have kids, right? Because I was 13 years old. I

00:08:48.840 was still very much a child myself. I couldn't think about those parts of life yet, but Prisha 0.99

00:08:54.120 and so many of my friends who have gone through this process, some of them even younger than me

00:08:59.580 have managed to come out of it with their fertility intact, with the ability to still give life with

00:09:06.020 their bodies and to and to safely give birth to perfectly healthy beautiful happy children

00:09:12.620 and that gives me hope one day but my faith that has been developing over the years

00:09:17.780 has it's given me the courage to say no matter what what happens whether i am able to get

00:09:28.420 pregnant and give birth or if i am going to have to take the option of adopting i'm going to be

00:09:37.260 very happy with motherhood whatever form it comes in i love that um do you take issue with the

00:09:45.260 verbiage of gender affirming care because in talking to you and knowing your story and now

00:09:50.280 mentioning presha it doesn't feel like what happened to you guys at all was care neither

00:09:57.100 There wasn't gender affirming.

00:09:58.600 Really, it was sex denying or even how it's described as as health care.

00:10:03.720 Do you take issue with that verbiage at all?

00:10:07.040 I think.

00:10:09.080 When you when you really observe, when you really look at these phrases that this.

00:10:15.800 That this ideology and this practice uses.

00:10:19.680 You'll notice that they're all euphemisms from top surgery referring to either breast implants or radical double mastectomies.

00:10:27.100 or bottom surgery referring to the removal of genitalia and even the phrase gender affirming

00:10:33.320 care itself it's affirming nothing but a mental illness because the problem is not these people's

00:10:41.220 bodies it's not their gender really their their sex or the fact that they're male or female

00:10:46.180 it's something that has to do oftentimes with underlying trauma or mental health issues

00:10:53.440 if you believe that you are somebody you are not if you believe as a man that you are a woman and

00:10:58.560 vice versa what you are dealing with is a mental health issue and you're not dealing within the

00:11:03.080 balance of reality and that's what these doctors should be looking at first not the body when you

00:11:08.980 decided to detransition and i imagine you told your doctors this were those same doctors who

00:11:15.860 treated you while you were transitioning were they still there for you during the detransition

00:11:21.160 process i felt completely abandoned when i detransitioned and i was shocked about that

00:11:27.480 i kind of figured that my friends in the transgender community are probably going to

00:11:32.000 see me as a traitor but for my own doctors who first put me on the pipeline and pushed me through

00:11:38.480 it to abandon me every single one of them had almost had this attitude of complacence of not

00:11:48.580 really wanting to look at the mistake that they had made with me. Even my endocrinologist who put

00:11:53.260 me on hormones and my surgeon, when I went to them for help, they gave me absolutely no guidance.

00:11:57.660 I asked my endocrinologist, is there any way that my hormone levels are going to get back to normal?

00:12:02.540 Do I need to be on supplementary hormones? How do I even stop taking them? I was given no guidance.

00:12:07.800 So I had to do, I had to figure it out all my own. And I went off testosterone cold turkey,

00:12:12.800 which is not the way I would recommend doing it. And I lost about 30 pounds in the span of two

00:12:17.020 months, my surgeon gave me advice that actually gave me a skin infection on my scars. And the

00:12:22.780 woman who referred me to surgery a year later told me, well, I noticed that you have some

00:12:27.600 symptoms of autism that maybe we should have evaluated earlier, but it's okay that you're

00:12:32.620 going through this because this is basically another transition. You might as well be

00:12:36.160 non-binary or something. Maybe you're not a woman. You're just going through another part of your 1.00

00:12:41.120 gender journey, which is a total slap in the face to everything that I was experiencing. The fact 1.00

00:12:45.260 that I was 16 years old realizing I may be infertile for the rest of my life.

00:12:50.780 You think it's money that's behind a lot of it?

00:12:53.720 I think that overall, this is a very fiscally motivated industry. But when it comes to the

00:13:00.120 individuals who are involved in it, I think it's a lot more complicated than that. I don't think

00:13:04.080 that my doctors necessarily were evil, but instead were motivated by an ideology. Because the training

00:13:12.120 for pretty much everybody in the healthcare industry is this. You see a patient who was

00:13:17.500 confused about their gender and you affirm them and basically whatever they say they are, because

00:13:22.200 that's who they say they are. Transgender people are the identity they claim to be on some level.

00:13:28.760 That is who they fundamentally are. And if you don't affirm that, you're actually denying them,

00:13:34.880 stripping them of their right to healthcare. You are doing them harm and you are potentially

00:13:41.600 pushing them closer to suicide by trying to make them disassociate from this identity that they

00:13:47.980 cannot control. And when you believe that there are children out there who are struggling with

00:13:52.660 suicidality, if they do not get the healthcare they supposedly need, then as a healthcare

00:13:57.940 professional, you're obviously going to feel inclined to go with your training.

00:14:03.500 Does the suicide rate actually decrease among those who go through the process of transitioning,

00:14:10.720 meaning taking the drugs cutting off body parts does that suicide rate actually end up decreasing

00:14:17.140 based on what research and in history and real life lived experiences tell us it does not actually

00:14:23.320 there are quite a few studies that have been conducted in a very in a very biased in a very

00:14:27.460 flawed way and we could pull apart those studies but the bottom line is the the more unbiased ones

00:14:33.440 the most comprehensive ones show that this treatment does not make suicidal ideation decrease

00:14:39.940 in some cases especially after surgery it actually worsens it what is Planned Parenthood's role

00:14:47.380 in all of this because I think a lot of people know Planned Parenthood as the abortion provider

00:14:53.020 but as you and I know and I think as people are beginning to learn if they don't know at this

00:14:59.080 point Planned Parenthood definitely has a role in all the gender ideology stuff as well so so

00:15:06.180 what's what part do they play here so unfortunately they like many other providers have decided to

00:15:14.760 go all in on the transgender industry and start providing these treatments um the specifically

00:15:21.640 the hormonal treatments and the use of different drugs um to young people who are confused about

00:15:28.540 their sex and with Planned Parenthood I mean I've had friends who have been able to get prescriptions

00:15:35.900 in as little as 30-minute calls with them without any evaluations,

00:15:40.300 without anything other than a phone call or a visit or even just a Zoom call.

00:15:47.400 And this is something that they also have provided to children

00:15:53.460 at least of 16 years old of age.

00:15:56.660 I wouldn't be surprised if they went younger with parents involved.

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00:18:12.620 Like yourself, I know there are several other detransitioner lawsuits out there.

00:18:16.540 do you think this is the way forward and where does your lawsuit stand currently yes so i think

00:18:23.120 that there are a few big ways that this industry is going to be stopped and part of that is going

00:18:29.300 to be legislation to ban it entirely for children but i think that for the victims who are already

00:18:35.640 harmed by this they're going to need compensation they are going to need justice because many of us

00:18:43.180 are, we've been left for dead by the same providers who pushed us into the treatments.

00:18:49.460 And these doctors need to be held accountable because this is criminal. This is something

00:18:56.840 that leaves children and young people believing that they have no other option but to become

00:19:01.980 medical experiments for life when there is truly nothing wrong with their bodies. So

00:19:06.060 when I was 18 years old, I decided to file a lawsuit against Kaiser Permanente,

00:19:10.440 which is my healthcare provider as a whole just i've sued the the hospital where i had surgery

00:19:16.240 and the surgeon the endocrinologist and the woman who referred me to these treatments because

00:19:21.520 even though i have chosen to forgive them in my heart i still believe that there needs to be an

00:19:29.540 answer to everything i have been through and they need to understand that this is criminal and they

00:19:35.820 need to pay for it. And that goes for every single child, every single family who has been

00:19:41.080 harmed by this industry. I want to create a precedent for every single one of them to

00:19:44.880 ensure that this is something that these doctors and these providers will see is

00:19:51.340 it's going to, if they continue, if they choose to continue to make the cowardly decision

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00:20:31.220 i know you know scott weiner he's probably the most far left pro-transgender he's openly gay

00:20:42.240 he's a lawmaker um in the state of california of course your home state he represents the san

00:20:47.900 francisco area he's also a jew which is important to mention given that he was just chased out of

00:20:54.300 the san francisco trans march for not parroting the pro-palestine talking points

00:21:00.980 The genocide in Gaza. I think your policy on the genocide in Gaza is terrible. I think you do not belong here. You do not belong here. Stop being queer. The moment you started supporting Israel, you piece of s**t.

00:21:18.460 What does this tell you about the current state of the movement? Again, this is one of the most, if not the most, pro-trans, anti-reality lawmakers in the entire country who was ambushed by that same crowd that he's in California representing. 0.99

00:21:35.940 I mean, that video was pretty crazy to watch for a lot of different reasons, but one of them being that the guy heckling him behind the camera said, I really appreciate your law that reduces the penalty for basically committing statutory rape with children, but you don't do enough for the children who are in Gaza.

00:21:57.720 You don't do enough for Palestinian children. It doesn't matter how much you think you align with other people on the left, because the left will eat their own. 0.60

00:22:05.940 They're constantly shifting the cold post.

00:22:07.880 There's always going to be something that they're unhappy with.

00:22:11.560 And I think he's getting exactly what he deserved for not only associating with such a radical movement,

00:22:18.620 but pushing forward these policies that have harmed so many children in our state, including myself.

00:22:25.660 The University of Washington, they canceled your event, what, just a few months ago for alleged threats.

00:22:31.500 So I guess the question for you is, what is it that they are so scared of? Because as I know you, Chloe, you're like this little, tiny, beautiful, I mean, like little girl. I know you're an adult and you're a woman, but to me, in my eyes, like you're the most like, like feminine little girl, it seems. And they're so scared of you. What is it that they're scared of?

00:22:52.940 well they're not scared of my obviously rippling muscles and brute strength right it's the fact

00:23:02.240 that i'm just i'm i have a testimony that goes against everything their ideology stands for 0.99

00:23:09.960 the existence of detransitioners completely dismantles some of the biggest tenets of 0.86

00:23:14.820 transgender ideology and it's that gender identity is something that exists that is 1.00

00:23:19.580 something that is fixed throughout life and even though it can be anything it can be fluid it's

00:23:25.820 also something that cannot be controlled or grown out of but yeah so what what happened last month

00:23:34.400 was that was actually going to be my final event of the semester i was supposed to be it was supposed

00:23:39.960 to be the final note that i was ending off of um to end a really incredible series events with

00:23:44.700 with turning points. But there was a murder of a transgender student that had happened just a few

00:23:53.200 days, I think just a day before it was scheduled to happen. And there, we already had a lot of

00:23:59.060 tensions at that campus. It's a very radical campus. It's in the Seattle area. And so there's

00:24:04.680 a big Antifa presence. There's a lot of transgender people there. And we're already starting to see

00:24:09.200 some threats. But after this happened, people were connecting me to this crime, this horrific

00:24:14.200 crime that i had absolutely nothing to do with telling me like the blood is on your hands this

00:24:19.020 is your fault that this transphobic attack happens and if we see you there you are in for a massive

00:24:28.540 threat i had threats of all sorts of different kinds of violence including people calling for 0.90

00:24:34.100 my death calling for me to be to be martyred in the way that charlotte was saying people saying 0.86

00:24:40.240 I hope you get Kirk, protect your neck. And these are comments that I already get on campus. And it's been for the past school year, it's been horrific to deal with after Charlie's death. But I mean, the security team determined that this is something that we need to postpone this. This is going to happen. This is not going to happen today.

00:25:01.840 And it has been, unfortunately, this has been something that I have been through before on campus with these threats being leveraged against me and against speakers like you too, just for talking about the truth, talking about the truth of biological reality, that men can only be men.

00:25:19.620 women can only be women and talking about the institutional infection this ideology

00:25:27.820 and the harm that it brings to not just the individuals who are suffering from it but also

00:25:32.940 the people around them but they don't want the truth of that to come today they don't want that

00:25:38.820 to come to light because it destroys basically their entire reason for living these people

00:25:45.040 believe that they cannot or transgender people cannot live without transitioning it's a powerful 0.66

00:25:51.280 ideology and it's it's such a lie it's such a deceitful destructive discouraging harmful 0.99

00:25:58.680 lie at that um and yeah university of washington i think last time i was there i had human feces 0.94

00:26:05.880 like a human literally defecated in his hand and threw it at me. Imagine being a conservative

00:26:15.260 student on that campus. You and I were just there for a few hours to attend and to deliver a speech

00:26:23.100 to the students there. Imagine being that student there, a proud member of Turning Point USA on a

00:26:28.440 campus like University of Washington or the university in Portland, Oregon. I have had

00:26:34.860 horrible experiences there or san francisco state university um is that why you think it's so

00:26:41.200 important to keep showing up to these hostile environments is to to almost provide cover to

00:26:46.840 those those students who who are conservatives whether they're closeted conservatives or openly

00:26:52.800 conservative absolutely i mean i first started speaking on campus because i felt like college

00:27:00.980 campuses were inundated with transgender ideology. And there was really only one side of the picture

00:27:07.120 that was being given to students and that was being allowed even to be spoken about. But then

00:27:14.320 I realized it's so much bigger than that. There is a massive political and spiritual divide on campus

00:27:22.020 that is going largely unaddressed. But students, there are so many students out there who are

00:27:29.400 closeted conservatives who are willing to change their minds who are just sick they are sick of

00:27:36.340 the divide and regardless of wherever you stand i don't care whether you're left or right

00:27:40.940 we all need to be at a point in our culture where we can come together and have these difficult

00:27:46.800 discussions it's that lack of difficult discussions that is driving this vitriol

00:27:51.140 between both sides and primarily from the left that is leading to this violence i think that

00:27:55.760 Charlie put it best. When these conversations stop, that is when the violence begins.

00:28:03.360 And we have seen the consequences of that so very clearly, like with the cancellation that

00:28:07.660 happened last month and all these instances of on-campus violence.

00:28:12.200 One last thing for you, and it's been one of my favorite evolutions to just watch from afar

00:28:17.740 and online, and you mentioned it briefly, was how you've evolved in your faith and how your

00:28:23.680 faith has grown can you expand on that just just a tad bit because again i've seen a little online

00:28:30.560 but i i would just love to hear what that has looked like for you so i grew up pretty much

00:28:38.020 being an atheist i didn't believe for almost all 20 years of my life 21 years of my life that

00:28:45.660 there was a god even i was i mean my mom was raised in the catholic church my my dad was

00:28:52.600 raised Christian, but we stopped going to church as a family. And I was never really, even though

00:28:59.760 they imparted those values on me in different ways in the way that they raised me, I didn't have

00:29:04.880 those lessons to take with me. And I think that is in large part what led to my confusion around

00:29:10.520 my identity, around my body, and just what my role in the world would be. From a young age,

00:29:17.240 I felt isolated from other people. I was somebody who didn't always fit in, especially with other

00:29:23.860 women. I didn't always get along with them. And there was so much loneliness that came with the 0.86

00:29:28.960 different difficulties that I had in my life that I think that could have been answered by the fact

00:29:33.020 that there was, above all things, a God-shaped hole in my heart. Everything that I was chasing

00:29:41.400 in my transition from a sense of identity, a sense of purpose, a sense of belonging

00:29:48.580 was all eventually found in my faith. When I first started speaking, I was still an atheist.

00:29:57.700 I, even though I felt this calling that I couldn't really explain, I didn't really quite understand

00:30:03.480 what it meant until later. I thought that I was simply entering a national conversation

00:30:09.520 around medical ethics, around good versus bad science, and then I came to learn I am being

00:30:17.680 called to enter into a ministry, into a spiritual battle, the battle between ultimate good and pure

00:30:29.780 unadulterated evil, and I think that this is one of the, this is one of the few instances in

00:30:36.440 history where the line between good and evil has been so clear. And it became clear to me that

00:30:44.120 this is so much bigger than just transgenderism. And I am one part of challenging these cultural 0.62

00:30:51.540 narratives that have allowed, I think, the spirit of Satan to infect so much of our country, so much

00:30:58.160 of our world from our institutions down into so many American families. And it was through

00:31:05.260 having experiences with true evil of people, just for the fact that I was speaking to the truth of

00:31:12.840 what happened to me and thousands of other children, people spitting on me, people assaulting

00:31:17.120 me, people chasing me down, people threatening my life and my family to realize that evil is not just

00:31:24.100 a human concept that we came up with ourselves. It's something that truly exists in the world.

00:31:30.340 but thank god that we have the answer to it we have an antidote to that and that is the god

00:31:39.380 above us who created every single one of us who made all of creation and made us fearfully and

00:31:46.920 wonderfully as we are that has been the biggest fuel of my journey for the past four years you

00:31:54.740 You know, that is honestly like just one of the most beautiful testimonies to hear someone like

00:32:00.660 you who has, who has lived the other side of it to now say like, look, I'm intentionally

00:32:07.460 and purposefully and uniquely created in his perfect image. And how amazing is it that we

00:32:13.120 have a creator who doesn't make mistakes? Oh, it just is, is one of the most amazing testimonies.

00:32:19.320 And so God bless you, Chloe, for everything that you do, for everything that you're going to

00:32:23.020 continue to do. Um, just know that, that I'm praying for you, um, and, and for your effectiveness

00:32:29.180 and for your future and for everything that you've got going on. Because as I, as I started

00:32:33.800 this episode and I'll, as I will end it, you are really one of the most brave and forward-facing

00:32:40.020 voices in the fight. But, but even broader than that, I think in making cultural change,

00:32:47.160 despite what the issue is, uh, you have been one of the most important figures in it all.

00:32:52.260 So thank you very, very much.

00:32:54.220 Riley, thank you so much for having me.

00:32:56.400 And I am very blessed to call you a friend of mine.

00:32:58.680 I feel very similarly about what you are doing and the fight that, I mean, it's been so wonderful to work alongside you on this issue.

00:33:07.160 And it's been so humbling to see the change that has happened.

00:33:10.640 Just from a few voices coming together to show that this is something that is an infection on our culture.

00:33:18.100 We are not helping these people.

00:33:20.300 We need to tell the truth.

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Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - July 10, 2026

Chloe Cole Says Doctors Abandoned Her After Detransition ｜ The Riley Gaines Show

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