Clay Travis： Why Trump’s Executive Order Changes Sports Forever ｜ The Riley Gaines Show
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Vanderbilt Law School President Clay Travis joins the show to talk about his wife's donation of $10 million to the law school, and why he thinks it's a good idea. He also talks about why he and his wife, Laura, are giving back to the school.
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unless you've been living under a rock then you know that the ncaa is drowning in problems
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and time and time again they have managed to land on the wrong side of nearly all of them
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name image and likeness eligibility rules the transfer portal men and women's sports the list
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goes longer each and every day and leadership continues to fall short thankfully we have a
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president who is committed to saving college athletics. He recently signed an executive
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order. We're going to talk about that, what this looks like. We're going to talk about Megan Rapinoe.
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We're talking about Gavin Newsom's wife and the liability that she is. And we are talking about
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TDS, Trump hysteria surrounding what is going on in Iran. All of that with Clay Travis. You don't
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want to miss it. Listen here. Well, Clay, thanks for joining the Riley Gaines show. Look, you and
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me, we are kind of like unicorns where we are both Nashville natives. And with that comes being
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Vanderbilt fan, which has historically been a pretty crummy thing. But this year, especially
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with both football and basketball, pretty good. I wanted to ask you about something that I saw
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in the news recently. You giving $10 million to Vanderbilt Law. Talk about that. Well, a lot of
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that credit goes to my wife uh but uh as many of us out there including your husband louie
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have been fortunate enough to meet uh women we were in college or law school together i think
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i told you this before i don't think i've certainly said it on on a show um but uh in 2001
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were you born yet in 2001 by the way what year were you born one years old all right you were
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one year old in Nashville. You were a baby in Nashville, basically a toddler. And, uh, I was
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starting at Vanderbilt law school and, um, we were, uh, setting up intramural teams. And I was one of
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the, uh, one of the guys in charge of the co-ed softball team. And, uh, we were first year law
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students. And I went around Riley to all of the prettiest girls in the, in the class, including
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my wife and recruited them to come play on the co-ed softball team so I met my wife first year
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law school recruiting co-ed softball players and we were mediocre in terms of Vanderbilt
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athletics intramural performance but we had a lot of I think we had several marriages that
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actually came out of that team and one of them was me and my wife Laura and so we went on to
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graduate from Vanderbilt Law School. We've had a lot of good fortune, thankfully. And I've spent
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a lot of time thinking about what I can do in addition to what we do for a living to talk about
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the things that we care about. And one of the things that I really care about is educating
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good, young, smart lawyers who are going to be committed to the idea that you have to defend
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all sorts of perspectives, right, left, middle of the road. You just want to be the best,
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most zealous advocate that you can be. We gave $10 million to the law school for First Amendment
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principles. My wife wanted to also help people who had children to be able to afford child care
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while they're getting law degrees. That mattered a lot to her. Also, we wanted to be able to give
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back to people who have served in the military and are finishing military service by trying to
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get law degrees, older law school students. So we've endowed scholarships and different support
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structures that will help all those different aspects of Vanderbilt Law School. And I hope
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we'll be impactful in creating generations of good lawyers to come. There are good lawyers,
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despite what people may hear. And I hope that Vanderbilt will be helping to produce more of
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them than they otherwise would if we hadn't donated this money. So my wife, Laura, deserves
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a lot of the credit. She drove the bus on getting all the details ironed out, but we're excited to
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be able to make the donation. So I hope it's going to make a substantial difference for what I think
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is one of the best law schools in the country to continue to be that and hopefully be a little bit
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I can't wait to go downtown and see, like, the Clay and Laura Travis building.
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But honestly, one of the things that I've appreciated about you most,
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something that I've come to learn throughout the past few years is you really are someone who
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puts your money where your mouth is, whether that's the philanthropy side of things, but
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even more so online, offering what WNBA teams, like a million dollars to play,
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what was it, like a high school state championship boys basketball team? Of course, you've had no one
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take you up on this, which leads me to someone that, again, the online discourse is there. You
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and I have talked about this person a lot, Megan Rapinoe. What in the world is wrong? This is a
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woman who has historically lost to, I think, a 15 and under boys team out of Dallas. We've got a
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clip here. I know you've seen it. Let's watch it really, really quick. Horrible rule that came out
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from the International Olympic Committee. They've announced a new policy that they're calling.
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I can't believe they're calling it this because it has nothing to do with protecting women. I feel
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like two people who played at the very highest level
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don't agree with this and never felt like this was an issue at all.
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We already know that biology, as much as we want it to be
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just nice and clean and tight and perfectly in one category or another,
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So now what we're doing is subjecting everybody,
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all women and all people who are identifying as women to this really invasive testing.
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And this will ultimately just prevent people from competing within the women's category
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that they feel like have an unfair advantage. It's kind of like the whole point,
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like the women's category is intended to be exclusive. What's your thoughts here?
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Well, I think you actually put a good tweet up because I wasn't an athlete or even in school
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when you said you were having to be tested for COVID all the time.
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They were super invasive and they didn't feel good and you had to do them all the time.
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My understanding is this is one cheek swab and for the vast majority of women,
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they will say, okay, you are a woman, you're eligible to compete.
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and if someone doesn't test as a woman they're not ineligible they just compete as men um and
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that's that seems very fair to me and again i think president trump deserves a lot of credit
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for this because we're going to host the 2028 olympics in los angeles and uh he has made it
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quite clear that men shouldn't be able to compete against women and unfortunately we have given gold
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medals i believe to a bunch of different people who are actually male identifying as women
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The best player on my 10U team was a girl.
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with men being bigger, stronger, faster than women,
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it's just crazy, and you've gotten savaged over this,
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which is one of the most ridiculous things
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one day it'll be your daughter, being able to compete against other women.
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I just can't believe that this is still an issue and this is where we are as a country.
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Do you think that's what it is with people like Megan Rapinoe and Sue Bird?
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Do you think they know that men and women are different?
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I mean, you have to imagine that's the case and they just simply don't care.
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Or do you think they fully believe that a man who takes puberty blockers,
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Do you think they believe that he can somehow turn himself into a woman if he so wills it?
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And this is, I can't even get into their head because you have to know.
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You mentioned Megan Rapinoe's team competed against 15-year-old boys from Dallas, Texas,
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This is not the best 15-year-old boys in the country.
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This is the best 15-year-old boys in Dallas, Texas, and they lost.
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So the biology of testosterone, once it starts rolling, I've got a 15-year-old in my house.
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He's a totally different human than when he was 12.
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He's starting to try to bench more weight than me.
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Testosterone, when it takes off, is a huge differentiator, as everyone who's ever raised
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I think she's just so committed to the delusion of her politics that she's not willing to
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say publicly what she knows to be true privately. That's my kind of assessment of what I think she's
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got going on. No, I agree with that. And in watching this clip back, I was thinking to myself,
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you know what? I don't think, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think Megan Rapinoe said a single
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word about the Iranian women's national soccer team when all of that was going on.
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She issued a tepid statement after there had been weeks of silence.
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She finally said something, but it was paled in comparison
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And I find her to have been wrong about almost everything in her worldview.
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And I wish she would have to answer questions like the one you just asked.
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I mean, it's a very reasonable question that someone could ask, because I think the reality is if 12 men decided to compete as as women, there would be no starting women soccer players.
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Right. All 11 starting spots and probably the top sub would all be male.
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And she said this after she retired conveniently after her career is over.
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And I just it is insanely unfortunate that this could happen.
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I wish that Elizabeth Edie would get more attention and Megan Rapinoe would get less
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because I think one of them is brave and sane, and the other one I think is a coward and insane.
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And I'm going to take brave and sane like you and other female athletes out there
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who've been willing to speak out on this over the Rapinos of the world.
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This is a woman who she played 11 years in the professional league alongside people like Megan Rapinoe,
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And I'm sure her tenure was part of it, playing for that long.
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The backlash that I faced from my teammates, from captains on my team,
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from people who I would have called best friends,
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who disinvited me from their wedding for saying that I don't think men should be on the soccer field with us.
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And worth noting, Megan Rapinoe and Sue Bird, they don't have daughters.
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And I do think that that is another level to it.
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the lengths that you are willing to go to protect the integrity of that.
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Staying on the topic of sports, you participated in a roundtable hosted by President Trump just a few weeks ago now.
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He signed an executive order surrounding NIL and kind of taming the wild, wild west that is the NCAA.
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can you kind of explain what this executive order does and kind of the key provisions of it and how
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ultimately this helps save college sports as President Trump touts himself on doing yeah so
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look there is a hope that Congress is going to be able to pass a bill to try and give an antitrust
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exemption to college athletics so that basically they can put rules in place right now they get
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sued as antitrust violators anytime they try and put rules in place. But I imagine a lot of people
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watching us right now are kind of rolling their eyes because Congress can't seem to do anything.
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So President Trump, I think, is frustrated with how long the process of Congress trying to enact
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a bill is taking. And he wrote this executive order, which hopefully will have some of the
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color of law, but has not been passed by Congress. And I think there are three things that really
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kind of stood out. And I want to get your take on one of these in a sec here. You get five years
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to play four, which has been the standard for most of college athletics. You cannot transfer
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more than once freely, meaning you can't go from playing. You swam at Kentucky. You couldn't go
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from Kentucky one year to Florida the next more than one time. And then it says once you go pro,
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you weren't able to come back into college in this sport,
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which has been something that has been occurring.
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Can you imagine what kind of education you would have gotten
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if you had swam at four different schools in a five-year process?
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Like for transferring credits, for relationships that you build,
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but the idea of going to four schools in five years as some of these guys and it tends to be
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guys and then claiming that you're getting any education at all it's just absolutely bonkers to
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the Riley Gaines Show. Yeah, look, NIL really started to take off. What was it? 2021, 2022,
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maybe? Yeah. I graduated in 22. So I kind of was on the very front end of what this looked like
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for college athletes. Now, going to University of Kentucky, not historically known for being
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a swimming school or even a football school but of course a men's basketball school i got to watch
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firsthand what happens when you give 17 year old boys sometimes these boys weren't even 18 years
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old when you give 17 year old boys millions and millions and millions of i got to see uh the car
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deals and the porsches that they're driving 100 miles an hour down the straight of campus
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they don't go to class anymore because no one is really making them go there's no financial
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literacy. They don't understand anything about taxes or what is required when you're receiving
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this much money, which how would you? Again, you're 17 years old. So I saw this as someone who, again,
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playing a non-revenue sport where there wasn't a ton of opportunity. Again, even four years ago now,
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I'm sure it has increased, but still slim to none if you're not playing basketball or football.
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I got to witness firsthand and it wasn't a pretty sight. So to see what we have seen,
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the provisions of this, no more 27-year-old freshmen. It's kind of funny in our sport of
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swimming, there were schools that were like notorious for recruiting women or men who were
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older. They would be like legitimately 25 years old and a freshman and they would compete overseas
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all year and come back to the U.S. just for conference time or NCAA time.
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So to see kind of the whip come down on a lot of these things,
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In terms of the NIL balance, what this kind of looks like,
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because I do, like any person with rational thinking,
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I do see a problem when you have executives and coaches
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and people within the NCAA making glamorous salaries off of the backs of athletes.
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In an ideal world, what does this look like, you think?
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You know, if I had a magic wand and I could kind of put it in place,
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First of all, there's a big difference between NIL and pay for play,
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Livvy Dunn, who a lot of people know, the gymnast from LSU,
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almost all of her money is actual nil places want to endorse her from her social media platform
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she's able to endorse i think viore would be an example uh you and i love xxxy great product
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encourage everybody out there to go buy as much of it as you can i'm wearing their shorts right now
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even though i'm dressed up like a professional person at the up top i've got on their athletic
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shorts right now i love them but that would be nil right you're being paid to endorse a product
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So I think you have to distinguish between those two.
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And for pay-for-play, I think you need to have a set salary cap.
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I think that guys should be able to get paid in revenue-producing sports.
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But I don't think that you should be suing to stay in college
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It used to be, when I was a young guy, that everybody, Maurice Claret's a great example,
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star running back for Ohio State, he sued to try to get to the NFL earlier because he
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would make more money as a pro than he would as a college kid.
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You shouldn't go to pros and make less than you made in college, and so it's broken, so
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we need a salary cap, we need a collective bargaining agreement.
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I still think and I know I'm getting to be an old man on this that you need to get an actual education because your point Riley financial literacy. I worry about this for my own kids all the time. So many people are knuckleheads when they're young especially boys when they have money and they get it a young age 17 18 years old. They don't have any idea how to save it. They don't have any idea how to invest it. They think that gravy train is going to be there forever. And then boom you're 24.
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your pro-athletic career may be over your college career is over and you don't even have a network
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to get a real job anymore because you don't have any tangible skills and you went to four schools
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in five years so you didn't even make a relationship with the university to be able to try to get a gig
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in real life so I worry about all those things that would be kind of my magic wand parameters
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that I think would be better for most athletes.
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I think I would initially say unintended consequence
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say. And yeah, the financial literacy piece, Clay, I'm honestly like embarrassed to admit
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this, but the other day I had to write a check and I'd never written a check before because
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everything is done digitally over online, pay all your bills, everything's online. So
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I had to write a check and it says at the bottom, you know, memo. I had no idea what
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that meant. I had to call my dad. I'm like, dad, at the bottom of this check, it says
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memo, what do I do? And he says, Riley, like, tell me you're filming like a TikTok and you,
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know I'm like dad I have no idea what this means he was so embarrassed but but it's real like how
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else would you know if you've never had to do it so I absolutely agree with you there you mentioned
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this will probably be challenged legally in the courts who is it that is opposing this because
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I've seen statements by I mean I think all the power five conferences they seem to support it
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so who is it that opposes this executive order it's going to be individual athletes who feel
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like the executive order restricts their compensation. So if you are an individual
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athlete that's already transferred once and you want to transfer again, for people out there who
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don't remember, transferring used to be difficult. I mean, when you started your athletic career at
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Kentucky, I presume the rules were if you transferred, you had to sit out for a year
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and you then gave up one year. So you had five to play four, but it was a big deal, right? If you're
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18 and you sit out for a year and you can't play again till you're 20 that really restricted a lot
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of movement and by the way I don't think that's a bad thing right because I think kids should learn
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how to fight through now sometimes you get recruited over your coach leaves there are
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external factors that I think certainly can be considered but one of the biggest challenges is
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coming in as a freshman and realizing I'm gonna have to bust my ass for a couple of years until
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I really get significant playing time as a junior or senior because it's really hard to be good
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and excellent at something and i think uh that making people aware of how hard they work uh and
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again building those deep roots of a university connection are uh are important important but it
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will be by and large individual athletes who feel like their compensation is being restricted
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they're going to argue that there is an authority that there uh there's an antitrust uh component
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to this uh this is getting into the weeds and being a nerd legally which sometimes i i do the
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only way like let's use LeBron James as an example he's been the best player in the NBA for much of
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the last you know he's 41 now but for much of his career he was the best player in the NBA he was
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making way less than he otherwise would because there's a ceiling on compensation the floor then
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is elevated as a part of the uh collective bargaining agreement so the mediocre and lesser
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players get paid more than they deserve the LeBrons of the world make less that's collectively
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bargained for because otherwise LeBron was probably worth a hundred million dollars a year
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some years he never made that because the collective bargaining agreement if you just
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restricted LeBron's pay and everybody agreed in the NBA they're not going to pay him what he's
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worth and there wasn't a collective bargaining agreement that would be an antitrust violation
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he would be able to sue so it's the CBA for pro sports that gives them the antitrust exemption
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congress needs to pass it so we can get basic rules uh put in place until they do there are
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lawsuits the president's trying to address it but there will be suits laid out against him too
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and there's no timeline of of when we could expect to see something moving
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through the house is there i mean they they say i guess they say we think we're going to do it
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this summer uh but riley i'm not optimistic congress can pass anything right now and i think
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the conferences and a lot of other people aren't either. But so the summer before the midterms is
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what they say they're trying to do. We will see. We will see. Well, thank you for that analysis.
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That's helpful for even people like me, especially the legal side of things. I want to ask you about
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Gavin Newsom's wife, or maybe I should say partner. She refers to herself as the first
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partner of california i everything i know about this woman has been like entirely against my
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own free will she pops up on my timeline like every video on x specifically is a new clip
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of i think his name is jennifer of jennifer virtue signaling in some way shape or form
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let's play the latest clip that i saw today i had to be very raw when we interviewed the
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the young men who were juvenile offenders in San Quentin. Um, I told them about my own loss where,
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um, my, my, I lost my older sister a few days before my seventh birthday and I blamed myself
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for her death. And I share that, um, because that they ultimately were accused of committing these
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violent crimes and sentenced for life. And I think it shocked them that this, you know, blonde lady
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who was you know the uh interviewing them had a similar story um was perhaps in the wrong place
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at the wrong time and but wasn't punished the way they were because clearly it was an accident but
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theirs was probably an accident too the smugness of which she's talking about hardened criminals
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who are sentenced to life in prison in san quentin first of all for context uh for those who don't
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know who are listening to this because I didn't know this until I found this video and saw some
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of the research behind it. Gavin Newsom's wife apparently ran over her sister in a golf cart
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when she was six years old. And of course, this was an accident, unintentional. She goes on to
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say how she faced zero consequences. But in this video, she's saying, you know, they're facing
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life sentences, but whatever they're charged with was probably an accident too. I mean,
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this is like peak elite tone deafness um what's your thoughts on her she seems like a total
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ability to Gavin Newsom quite frankly well she is a liability that's an awful story but I don't
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think there's anyone in America who would say hey if a six-year-old drives over her eight-year-old
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brother or sister in a golf cart that they need to be put in prison for the rest of their lives
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or that they need to be compared to adult criminals that's what she did um and again
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it's an awful story i'm a parent you're a parent like something awful happening to kids siblings
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involved it's truly atrocious but it's nothing at all similar to what she's talking about in
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san quentin and look riley i repped uh murderers drug dealers alleged uh domestic abusers as a
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young lawyer we were required to represent criminals um and so i understand the concept
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of believing in rehabilitation, believing in finding forgiveness, finding a way to
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recalibrate your life after you've done something awful, her experience is not similar to what
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they are accused of. And look, I don't think there's very many people out there who would say,
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hey, you know what the issue we have in America is? We're too kind. So we're too cruel to violent
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criminals. I actually think we're far too kind to them. I want violent criminals behind bars
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longer we would all be safer if they were and this is also important as someone who committed
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who defended those who had committed crimes and been accused of crimes very rarely very very
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rarely does someone create commit a truly heinous violent crime and it is the first time they've
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ever done anything criminal in their life these people who commit these crimes riley they start
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at young ages and they typically are continuing to grow and accelerate the level of their
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criminality and so this idea that oh they made one bad decision in their life and they ended up here
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does it happen yes is it insanely rare yes is it in any way analogous to what a six-year-old did
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no um and so uh i think she's just a tremendous liability for gavin newsom um and this is she's
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evidence sadly you see this a lot of the woke mind virus having taken over educated white women
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more than almost anyone else in the country and i think she speaks uh as someone who is
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completely taken over by that woke mind virus frozen lasagna medium power 15 minutes
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yeah absolutely i agree with that uh i think she's attempting to appear you know empathetic
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and apologetic. And she seems to be very emotionally driven. And these are wonderful
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things in their true essence. I think, especially as women, we tend to be those things on average,
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certainly more so than men who are, again, more aggressive and dominant and assertive. Again,
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good things for men, for those who are genetically encoded to protect and to provide. Those are
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fantastic things. But what she's doing, it's not empathetic. How she's speaking, it's really not
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with kindness or compassion. Uh, she's allowed those things, uh, and what she believes those
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things to be, uh, to, to be weaponized against her. So I agree with you. I think she's a liability.
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I think, uh, you know, she's like trying to diagnose and, and treat, uh, young boys as if
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it's a, a disease to be treated. Uh, she talks about her son. I, again, I more so think she's
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doing it to, uh, virtue signal her. She seems so very proud when she's talking about this and she
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got this book and she's reading it to her sons and she changes that if there's a protagonist
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that's a boy or a male she changes the pronouns to she i don't think she actually even does that
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i think she's just saying that anyways uh who do you think is the like the democrat darling
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right now you think it's gavin newsom well i think he thinks he is and i think his wife thinks that
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he is um i i said this on my show the other day i still think kamala harris is going to be the
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nominee. And people think that I'm crazy for this take. I think black voters in Democrat primaries
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are going to show up and vote for her. I don't think they're going to show up and vote for Mayor
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Pete. I don't think they're going to show up and vote for Gavin Newsom in big numbers. If I were
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handicapping the race right now, I would still make Kamala the favorite. I would. And I think,
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you know, look, we'll see what happens on the Republican side, whether JD and Marco end up
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working together how the next couple of years go economically and all those things uh but i think
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the reason kamala titled her book 107 days is she's going to argue she didn't get enough time
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to make the case of why she's the right choice for america and i think some people are going to
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find that to be a compelling argument um not me uh but i think a lot of democrat voters particularly
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black voters in southern states like where we live tennessee um south carolina uh georgia alabama
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places that tend to vote early. I think Kamala will do very well.
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Yeah, and I agree with you. I think people have short memories. I think they will have forgotten
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how horrible and inauthentic of a campaign she ran leading up to the election in 2024. So I'll
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be interested to see what direction they go. Do they go with someone more moderate like Bashir
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or who appears to be moderate? I don't think any of them are moderate by any stretch of the
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imagination, but who appear to be more moderate, such as Bashir or Shapiro or what that looks like.
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One more thing I want to ask you about, last thing, in talking about kind of the Trump hysteria. Of
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course, it's not new. Over the weekend, he tweeted this. He says, a whole civilization will die
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tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. However,
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now we have complete and total regime change where different, smarter, and less radicalized
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minds prevail maybe something revolutionary wonderful can happen who knows we'll find out
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tonight one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world 47 years of
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extortion corruption and death will finally end god bless the great people of iran and now
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we are being lectured on the 25th amendment can you explain this and what we're seeing
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the discourse that we're seeing online right now well the first time uh the biden presidency was
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Weekend at Bernie's, a movie that came out that is absolutely insane, that features a dead man
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that they pretend is alive. That was a crazy movie, Riley. Then they made Weekend at Bernie's
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two. And so every Democrat was fine with Weekend at Bernie's one, which was Joe Biden's first term
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in office. And then other than Dean Phillips, the Minnesota congressman who ran against him,
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all of them lined up and said, yes, we want another four years from Joe Biden,
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who clearly was mentally and physically incapable of being president of the United States.
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Once they all lined up behind Joe Biden, there is nothing that Donald Trump can do.
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The guy on Monday had a hour and 15 long hour and 15 minute long press conference where he
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answered every question under the sun. And he does this every day such that if Trump isn't
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in front of the media for 10 hours, Democrats go crazy and start saying he's sick and in the
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hospital riley uh so i think that's uh that is uh the reality look i trust trump i trust uh pete
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hegseth i know you know pete um i trust marco rubio i trust these guys to make good decisions
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in a tough climate by the way let me go back to one question you asked a minute ago uh when we
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started about the million dollar challenge because some people say you know i offered a million
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dollars to a wnba team to play against the high school state champion team of my choice and if
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the WNBA team won, they would get a million dollars, which is a huge amount, more than
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most of them made at the time to play for a year. Some people said, why would you do that?
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Because I think we need, we saw it with you swimming against Leah Thomas, but I think we
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actually need a real competition between men and women, the best women against just good men,
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and see what the biological difference is. I think those high school boys, Riley, would
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obliterate the WNBA champions. That's not meant to demean the WNBA champions. It's meant to
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illustrate the importance of having separation of men's and women's athletics. You lived it.
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A lot of people out there still tried to deny it. I want this challenge to happen. I think a lot of
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people would watch and I think what they would see would stagger a lot of people. Biology is real
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and it doesn't mean that men are better than women and it doesn't mean that women are better
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than men i don't buy into that concept look i think we just need to acknowledge that we're not
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the same and for most of human history we did that we were very happy to do that and this this i think
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it's actually quite sinister i think what they're trying to do is argue that there is no difference
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between men and women that's really what this is about at its root that biology is not real
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And so I simply would say, let's have a competition and let's see.
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And the fact that no one will do it, I think deep down proves that there is a recognition
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But for you even offering, you're like a bigot.
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I'm like the worst human who's ever existed.
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I'm putting my money where my mouth is, something I try to do to be as honest and end the hypocrisy as much as I can, and they won't follow through.
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And like I said, you do that really, really well.
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I don't know how you have enough, how we have the same amount of hours in the day, truthfully.
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a great deal to me and so many other people out there.
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thank you for having me thank you guys for watching today's episode of the riley gaines
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