Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - Defending Common Sense： Ohio’s Protect All Students Act

00:00:00.000 welcome back to the gains for girls podcast uh thank you for tuning in and listening

00:00:12.560 as always you can check out outkick.com for all things gains for girls uh you can check out me

00:00:19.980 other outkick personalities and contributors like tommy lauren or charlie arnold of course

00:00:25.680 clay travis again all of that at outkick.com uh excited for today's episode you may remember

00:00:34.440 about a year ago uh governor dewine a republican governor in the state of ohio who vetoed a pretty

00:00:43.780 crucial piece of legislation uh in ohio it was the save act hb 68 which would merely ensure men aren't

00:00:52.840 entering into women's sports and it would protect adolescents from chemical and surgical castration

00:00:59.680 seems pretty straightforward it seems like someone some like something that someone with an r by their

00:01:06.220 name could get behind but unfortunately that was not the reality in ohio as governor dewine decided

00:01:13.460 to veto this piece of legislation uh the house and the senate was able to override his veto with a

00:01:21.140 majority vote uh but nonetheless i believe this was political suicide for him flash forward to to

00:01:29.760 today to where we are now uh another bill gets to his desk sb 104 which is the protect all students act

00:01:38.020 which would merely ensure that men aren't using girls bathrooms and vice versa amongst all public and

00:01:47.320 private schools um kindergarten all the way through college pretty pretty a pretty holistic bill here

00:01:53.660 uh it gets to governor dewine's desk and this time he signs it um i believe largely to do with the pushback

00:02:01.880 and the backlash that he faced for vetoing hb 68 but a win that we're celebrating nonetheless because kids

00:02:09.880 are being protected and parental rights are being upheld all very important things that the majority of

00:02:17.080 people can get behind and so for today's episode we are talking to the co-sponsors of the protect

00:02:23.880 all students act on the house side uh it is a representative adam bird and representative

00:02:29.560 beth lear and you can check out that episode here well thank you both for joining the gains for girls

00:02:36.100 podcast uh super duper excited for this conversation and and just grateful for everything that you two have

00:02:42.660 been able to advance of course in the state of ohio but really setting the standard uh across the nation

00:02:48.960 uh i've had your your colleague uh representative click on uh a while ago actually probably about a year ago

00:02:55.460 the same time in talking about house bill 68 uh which which we'll briefly get into in a second but

00:03:01.920 before we get into that i would love for you guys to to very briefly describe the protect all students act

00:03:10.060 and what it does for students in the state of ohio well the protect all students act was designed

00:03:15.980 from a friend of ours a colleague who passed away early in the session chris jordan he had three kids

00:03:23.160 in public schools and he wanted to make sure that boys and girls were in separate facilities if a facility

00:03:29.200 is designed for more than one student and it's identified by sex then only that sex should use it so

00:03:35.860 the bill we put together said that boys and girls cannot share bathrooms locker rooms or overnight

00:03:42.080 accommodations kindergarten through college and that is the legislation that the governor signed last

00:03:48.080 week riley if i could add to that you know people superintendents from around the state of ohio were

00:03:55.540 coming to me and asking me for a bill like this and this was becoming untenable for them and and you may

00:04:01.720 remember that this nonsense started back in the late obama administration and and so it was really

00:04:08.680 becoming difficult and when the department of education in washington dc was saying you will implement

00:04:14.940 this policy or we will take away your federal funding they were leaving schools with no choice but to

00:04:20.360 implement what obama administration was saying and and so we know that that some of the people that were

00:04:26.240 trump appointees 16 through 20 they weren't all very loyal to trump and so it it didn't go away during

00:04:32.160 those years and it was just getting so much worse and and so i think the timing of this bill being passed

00:04:38.580 and signed along with the new trump administration is going to be really refreshing for schools across

00:04:44.680 ohio uh i could not agree more i think refreshing is a good word because you're right uh i do believe that

00:04:51.820 our leaders have wanted to do the right thing for yeah as you said i mean i mean almost a decade now

00:04:58.640 um but haven't really been able to because of uh the fear of losing funding which is is of course

00:05:05.920 essential to operating uh so i agree i think you gave them the the ability to do what they knew to be

00:05:12.680 right all along and so to be very to be clear here clarify it's k through college is that right and it's

00:05:19.120 both public and private schools yes all schools and it also includes facilities off school premises

00:05:26.460 that they might use so if you have a swim team but you don't have a pool and you use the why

00:05:31.320 then the why has to implement these same requirements while the students are there

00:05:36.440 riley you bring up the issue of private schools and and that's a really important thing to bring up

00:05:41.260 because they came to us multiple times asking us to please let us out of this bill please don't

00:05:46.780 include us in this and and we as a private institution some of them christian that wouldn't

00:05:52.280 have a problem but by principle they had they wanted out of this bill and we would not let that happen

00:05:57.300 because we just thought it was so important uh that we protect all students and and that this is is such

00:06:04.980 an instant instrumental principled right for young ladies to be able to go into a restroom changing room

00:06:12.300 locker room that we were not going to allow uh private colleges to take that away from them

00:06:17.940 it's huge i don't think we've seen the bill as it pertains to this topic in particular

00:06:23.340 that is this encompassing really yet so again set the standard for the rest of the nation to follow

00:06:30.460 and again feels timely with everything going on uh in the capital right now at a federal level and we're

00:06:35.780 seeing congresswoman mace and and what they're dealing with up there and so again this this is is the gold

00:06:41.280 star example of of legislation to to follow um i mentioned hb 68 but but this bill was really

00:06:49.320 important to me i know of course both of you but it was it was really personal to me in the sense that

00:06:55.020 it was again all-encompassing it didn't just protect women's sports but it also dealt with the issue of

00:07:00.460 allowing children to to undergo radical and irreversible and permanent surgeries and uh chemical

00:07:09.780 castration for that matter uh and it passed the house and the senate and it went to the governor's

00:07:15.360 desk uh to which ultimately uh which is something i can't make sense of he decided to to veto which i

00:07:23.340 think really hurt him i think that the conversation in america has changed and and you're a part of the

00:07:29.080 reason for why it's changed advocates like you have changed the conversation uh it became part of the

00:07:35.320 presidential election process it was there was a lot of advertisements around that and and so the the

00:07:43.020 ability for certain college sports women's sports teams to stand up and say no we're not doing this

00:07:49.200 anymore and it really started to have an impact and and i think that he saw that and and and really

00:07:56.140 changed his his his ability to sign this i i think that's that's pretty spot on um

00:08:05.320 uh you've had some great support from the lieutenant governor lieutenant governor uh he said i've

00:08:11.260 been watching as some of his interviews he's been doing in the articles that have been put out

00:08:15.320 uh you've got a phenomenal attorney general who has has pursued litigation against the biden

00:08:20.540 administration and the department of education uh surrounding title nine which has has uh to this

00:08:26.500 date actually been successful uh but what's some of the pushback that you've had from from

00:08:32.520 teachers unions and and maybe civil rights groups i would say a lot of what we've gotten has been um

00:08:41.100 some under the radar you know you get the emails you get the phone calls um you get the social media

00:08:49.240 trolls who call you every name in the book and attack you and try to get you to respond in kind

00:08:56.480 um but a lot of it is also behind the scenes the nasty phone calls and the threats and you know you

00:09:05.540 i'm sure you're getting it too and we made a decision a long time ago that we were going to stand up

00:09:11.580 for women and kids and also for these kids who are confused about who they are because is it really

00:09:18.920 safe for a young girl who's been convinced she might be a boy to go into the boys locker room

00:09:24.680 no so we're willing to stand no matter what i'm really proud to have been able to work with

00:09:30.440 adam bird former superintendent and no matter what comes our way we're we're gonna take it we're

00:09:37.640 gonna keep going i would add to that riley that the pushback you ask about the pushback it hasn't

00:09:42.380 come from my constituents it hasn't come from female athletes across the state it hasn't come from

00:09:47.840 school superintendents the pushback that i have felt has come from the media and certain members

00:09:53.960 of the media have tried to advocate on behalf of the opponents of this bill and i'm not just

00:09:59.200 talking about a couple we're talking about print media we're talking about news and and uh and video

00:10:04.780 media and and they're the ones who are really taking up this cause and and it makes you doubt

00:10:09.960 sometimes the veracity of whether they're journalists or whether they're commentators

00:10:14.120 i think that's a very good point and we've seen these numbers on a national scale

00:10:19.620 like cnn and msnbc uh and in outlets that that um are are left-wing in that nature uh their numbers

00:10:28.920 have been plummeting because i think people are beginning to wake up and realize exactly what you

00:10:35.620 just said and i think it's important uh representative lear what you mentioned you guys have taken a stance

00:10:42.440 not just in the best interest of of people like myself who who intuitively know that men and women

00:10:50.920 are different but you've taken the stance also to protect the best interests of those who who identify

00:10:57.180 as transgender i think that that's very pertinent in saying that uh the lies and that they're being fed

00:11:04.080 um it's ultimately harmful to to them and their well-being as well so i i really like that point

00:11:11.120 uh did you guys on this bill in particular did you have support among elected democrats not publicly

00:11:21.100 um regrettably uh we did speak with a few who wished they could vote with us but the democrat party

00:11:31.740 votes in lockstep and if you don't go along you're out so that was really unfortunate that

00:11:39.040 some people didn't have the courage of their convictions because i know they really wanted to

00:11:44.240 of course i think that's nothing to add to that that you know it's it's really sad that that people

00:11:51.300 can't vote their conscience when they come here and and so i think people are waking up and and you

00:11:57.540 know to to rep leader's point democrats don't want boys in their girls sports democrats don't really

00:12:04.220 want boys in their girls locker room but they're afraid to say it because cancel culture is still

00:12:09.520 real and and so they don't want to be out there criticizing uh identity politics and and so that's true

00:12:18.200 even in rural conservative ohio that the girls on the volleyball team or basketball team they they're it's

00:12:24.600 hard to be the one to stand up the way you have and i think you're you've been an inspiration to

00:12:30.220 girls around america to be willing to stand up and an unafraid boldly stand on on what is right and

00:12:37.840 and i hope that that you continue to inspire a generation of young girls that to stand up for

00:12:44.400 what they believe no doubt uh i'm hoping and i believe i really feel actually that that this cancel

00:12:52.260 culture is fading i really feel like that over the past month or so especially i mean even over

00:12:57.500 the past few weeks it feels pretty exponential um do you think that that was proven i mean what do

00:13:04.860 you think of of the senate and presidential poll numbers in ohio because i believe that proved not

00:13:11.940 only that people turned out to embrace bernie marino to embrace donald trump uh but more so i believe

00:13:19.040 especially in the state of ohio people turned out to to reject absurdity they really did and we had a

00:13:26.880 poll too i think it was a baldwin wallace poll that showed the numbers across all spectrums ages political

00:13:33.980 parties they don't want this crazy i don't know what you want to call it but the idea that kids can be

00:13:43.240 cats or that they can be the opposite gender or that they can be an airplane they don't want it and

00:13:49.740 they definitely don't want boys and girls sharing spaces in schools that are meant to be private so

00:13:56.000 i think it was really helpful president trump understood that lieutenant governor housted and

00:14:02.280 attorney general yost understands that so we've been really blessed to see things start to turn around

00:14:09.020 here yeah i might add to that riley that you bring up the election that just happened in ohio and and

00:14:15.060 so bernie marino as a u.s senate candidate made this a big part of his campaign and and the man he was

00:14:21.380 running a band against the incumbent sherrod brown he would act like your moderate neighbor when he was

00:14:28.120 in the state of ohio but he had a radical woke voting record in dc and it finally caught up to him

00:14:35.460 and this was part of it and and to his credit bernie marino made this issue a part of his campaign

00:14:42.300 and it paid off because ohioans were able to see who sherrod brown really was when he was actually

00:14:48.000 voting absolutely and it wasn't just uh in the state of ohio we saw the same tactic used by

00:14:54.660 uh bob casey uh for example and dave mccormick and and it was a a the same outcome uh what are some

00:15:03.180 other high priority pieces of legislation that are coming up uh that we can be cheering you guys on

00:15:09.860 whether it's it's related to to these cultural issues or beyond well we're in lame duck so it's

00:15:17.020 hard to say what's going to happen over the next month but we're really hopeful for the new general

00:15:23.340 assembly that starts in january we have new leadership um we're planning to move forward on

00:15:30.080 some really strong republican ideas i've got education issues planned which i'm sure i'll be

00:15:36.540 sharing with representative bird and um property taxes are such a big issue for ohioans we really

00:15:43.700 need to be dealing with that so what are some of the things that you're thinking about well you

00:15:49.120 mentioned property taxes that is huge in ohio and and so we have got to stop taxing people and in

00:15:55.980 order to stop that we're going to have to start spend stop spending so much and that's really

00:16:01.620 difficult to do and and so you know we basically we've got property taxes we've got sales tax and

00:16:07.600 we've got income tax and we've got to find a way to lower all of those but especially the property tax

00:16:13.920 because that's the one that affects grandma and grandpa who are now 75 or 80 years old they're not

00:16:20.680 working they're on a fixed income and yet the inflation of the housing market has caused them

00:16:26.480 to be unable to afford the home that they're living in yeah my senator andy brenner said we need our own

00:16:33.060 ohio doge just like elon and vivek are doing for all of us hey well maybe vivek uh can can come back to

00:16:41.460 ohio at some point uh i think that needs to be implemented in all 50 states and across corporate america

00:16:48.520 and across academia virtually every realm where this this leadership hierarchy exists especially

00:16:55.420 within the democratic establishment uh i believe i'm on the same page as you guys um so grateful for

00:17:03.160 for your leadership uh how you've been able to to stand tall uh amidst all of the backlash and the

00:17:10.380 pushback and the media smears uh as you as you described um but nonetheless please know

00:17:16.640 you're representing of course your constituents the people of ohio but uh you're representing

00:17:22.740 the majority of americans and in the process uh setting the standard for other states to follow

00:17:29.120 and so could not be more grateful and i hope uh i get to see you both of you again at some point

00:17:35.200 in the near future thank you riley thanks for leading the charge and encouraging others to do likewise

00:17:40.880 absolutely your boldness is inspirational to our young ladies and uh i hope that you continue that

00:17:46.580 and i hope that people like you can continue to inspire in states that aren't as red as ohio and

00:17:53.280 we've got to keep this message going in other places and amongst the college crowd and i think that's

00:17:59.080 where you are so effective absolutely absolutely well thank you both i cannot agree more with the

00:18:05.600 idea of implementing doge in every single state uh elon and vivek can we please get on that i think us

00:18:13.980 americans uh on all levels could could certainly benefit from it uh again thank you guys for tuning in

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Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - January 02, 2025

Defending Common Sense： Ohio’s Protect All Students Act

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