Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - March 05, 2025


Finding Your Voice with Danica Patrick


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Length

33 minutes

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183.68385

Word Count

6,137

Sentence Count

356

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

4


Summary

Danica Patrick joins Jemele to discuss her new role as a surrogate for President Donald Trump and why she thinks women need to stand up for what they believe in in order to have a voice in politics. She also talks about why she decided to join Team Trump and what it was like supporting the president.


Transcript

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00:00:43.280 Today's guest is someone who I've admired for a long time being a NASCAR, you know, indie fan.
00:00:52.460 I remember being a young kid watching these with my grandfather on Sundays, you know,
00:00:57.240 the hours that they were on the TV.
00:00:59.760 So this is a woman who I mean, she's she's broken barriers.
00:01:03.020 She's someone I've looked up to.
00:01:04.600 But this past year, she really I mean, just emerged in the political space.
00:01:12.160 She was a really a top surrogate for President Donald Trump leading up to the election
00:01:16.940 and certainly has been an advocate and a wonderful champion of President Trump and his cabinet picks
00:01:23.060 following the election.
00:01:26.280 If you haven't guessed who it is by now, of course, it is Danica Patrick.
00:01:31.440 As a race car driver herself, like I said, breaking barriers.
00:01:35.000 She's setting records with her her on track performance.
00:01:37.700 But now with her her racing career behind her, she's looking at this next chapter.
00:01:43.600 She's she's focusing on her passions again.
00:01:45.720 That's fitness.
00:01:46.440 If you haven't seen this woman, she's like so fit and just beautiful.
00:01:49.920 She was a model as well.
00:01:51.560 She has a passion for for wine, helping others to achieve their goals.
00:01:57.040 Um, I could go on and on and on about her accolades again, uh, on the racetrack and beyond.
00:02:03.660 But we're going to get into that here.
00:02:05.360 So check out this episode with Danica Patrick.
00:02:08.660 Well, Danica, thank you so much for joining the Gains for Girls podcast.
00:02:13.500 We were just talking, you know, before we started recording, I briefly, briefly got to
00:02:18.240 to meet you at one of the inaugural balls surrounding President Trump being sworn into office,
00:02:23.980 which was a very victorious feeling for both of us.
00:02:27.940 But I wish I got to really spend time and just hug your neck and thank you for everything
00:02:32.800 that you have done, not just over the past few months, but really how you have been the
00:02:38.080 perfect role model for women over really your lifetime, certainly over your career and beyond.
00:02:45.080 So I just kind of wanted to get right into it, starting with asking you about, you know,
00:02:49.940 how your life really did change over the past few months.
00:02:52.540 We saw celebrities who were endorsing Kamala Harris, speaking at her rallies, who were
00:02:58.600 making millions of dollars, people like Beyonce and Cardi B, the list goes on.
00:03:03.760 But why did Oprah need to make any money?
00:03:05.740 Seriously?
00:03:06.900 That's right.
00:03:07.780 That's right.
00:03:08.360 But it's in total contrast with, with you and people like you, people, other women, especially
00:03:13.000 supporting team Trump.
00:03:14.540 You revealed you made absolutely nothing.
00:03:16.960 Uh, but I mentioned your career, you know, you risk facing cancel culture for supporting
00:03:22.420 president Trump.
00:03:23.260 So, so pretty plainly, you know, what made you do it?
00:03:26.020 Thanks.
00:03:26.540 Um, well, thank you.
00:03:27.460 And I am really, really sad that we didn't get a chance to like, uh, hug and say hello
00:03:33.360 and learn more about each other in person, as opposed to afar from spectating as a, as a,
00:03:38.840 as a consumer of, um, you know, sports and, uh, people that stand up for what they believe
00:03:44.320 in.
00:03:44.900 Uh, so I have no doubt we'll get that chance soon.
00:03:47.940 Um, but you know, I just felt like a calling.
00:03:50.980 Like, I don't, I mean, I don't, I'd love to hear some of your perspective too, uh, on,
00:03:56.100 on how it all feels.
00:03:57.020 Cause I feel like also for you, it's been kind of a tidal wave of, uh, just a whole change
00:04:03.360 in like what you do and how people see you and, you know, standing up for something is
00:04:09.940 a powerful thing because, uh, it's when you're in your truth.
00:04:14.380 And so when you're in your truth, you're quite magnetic and it's, and it also gains momentum
00:04:20.980 really fast because when we're doing what's meant for us, the universe just lines things
00:04:26.200 up for us.
00:04:27.180 And so, uh, it went really quickly for me.
00:04:30.020 Uh, it was only a little over a year ago that I went to my first ever political event, which
00:04:36.060 was AmFest here in Phoenix, um, Charlie Kirk's big event.
00:04:39.540 And I mean, at that point in time, without, hopefully without people judging, I didn't know
00:04:45.440 who Charlie was.
00:04:46.300 Like I had never paid attention to politics and in fact, quite specifically avoided the
00:04:52.900 news and, and had since like 2018.
00:04:55.420 I just basically stopped watching the news and just watched YouTube and spiritual information
00:05:01.400 and esoteric things and physics and all kinds of other interests I had, but not, not the
00:05:07.660 news.
00:05:08.160 And so after going to that event, I posted some photos in my, of my sister and I, and, uh,
00:05:14.200 it just said that I love this country and it was a divisive comment to so many and grabbed
00:05:19.960 a lot of attention, which was ridiculous.
00:05:22.880 And then I finally met Tucker Carlson when he was there because he was one of the speakers.
00:05:27.460 And, uh, I quickly went on his show and went to Florida, the very beginning of January, right
00:05:32.200 after that, cause the event is late December.
00:05:34.620 And then, uh, came back and Charlie reached out and then I went on Charlie's show and I
00:05:38.500 was like, well, I guess I'm in politics now.
00:05:40.280 Uh, and then one of the other people that I had reached out to that was quite a pivotal
00:05:44.500 character and sort of my involvement within, uh, the campaign, especially was Tulsi Gabbard.
00:05:50.620 And, uh, she spoke at AmFest back in the first time I went in the end of 2023.
00:05:55.960 And I sent her a message, a DM afterwards and just said, you know, so impressed.
00:06:00.500 I'm so, I'm cheering for you.
00:06:01.920 And she, we just kind of had a little love fest for a second.
00:06:04.600 And then she had her book come out for love of country.
00:06:07.340 And so in the springtime I interviewed her and we had just become friends.
00:06:11.000 And then it really just led into her asking if I'd moderate for her and Bobby at an event.
00:06:15.400 And then that kind of got into the whole political realm.
00:06:18.240 And then I moderated for JD and at a rally and then, you know, just things here and there
00:06:23.780 and doing Maha things and doing events that were in town.
00:06:27.740 And, uh, that led to basically, basically campaigning with Tulsi the whole last week.
00:06:34.180 Which is Tulsi is one of the most authentic Tulsi and her husband, uh, bear in mind, what
00:06:41.380 an amazing couple.
00:06:42.640 They are the most genuine, sincere, real people, uh, I think in the political sphere.
00:06:50.260 And I saw you actually at her confirmation hearing.
00:06:52.660 It was so cool to see like the, the girl gang that surrounded her.
00:06:57.080 My friend Sage Steele, who is just amazing.
00:06:59.360 Megan McCain is another one of her, her friends and my good friends.
00:07:02.740 Now, uh, I imagine that experience cheering her on at her confirmation hearing was probably
00:07:08.300 like this.
00:07:09.140 I mean, of course it's, you never could have imagined yourself there, but it was probably
00:07:12.800 like this full circle moment for you.
00:07:15.940 Yeah.
00:07:16.460 And again, there almost feels like there's like, like some more depth to it than just having
00:07:24.100 just met within the last year.
00:07:25.800 That feels like there's, I don't know.
00:07:27.960 I feel this, um, you, I know that you're quite religious.
00:07:32.240 I believe in all of it, but I would call myself a little bit more spiritual, but I feel like
00:07:37.320 there's sort of this like uprising of like female camaraderie and cheering for each other
00:07:43.100 again.
00:07:43.500 And, and like this little, like less competitiveness and more like unification.
00:07:48.900 Um, and so, I, I mean, it really feels like there's like almost like past life or some kind
00:07:55.580 of level of depth to the relationships that are building in this sort of arena that, um,
00:08:01.940 feel deeper, feel deeper than just knowing each other for the last year.
00:08:05.560 Um, and, or more for some, but more on a deeper level in the last year.
00:08:10.620 Uh, I don't know, I don't know how you feel about that, but I just feel like there's,
00:08:14.340 there's just, um, maybe it's because I played in, uh, I, my sport was guys basically.
00:08:18.920 And so maybe it's because I'm just like finally having this opportunity to build more of these
00:08:23.900 relationships, but I don't know.
00:08:25.860 I think there's a rise of like the, the, of women supporting each other again.
00:08:30.900 No doubt about that.
00:08:32.380 Uh, and I, I totally agree with your sentiment.
00:08:35.120 It does feel deeper.
00:08:36.420 I don't know if it's because of course we have a lot in common beyond just like,
00:08:40.600 the surface level things we enjoy, I mean, our principles and our morals, or I don't know
00:08:46.500 if it's because there's so much at stake, uh, over this, this past year, certainly leading
00:08:51.280 up to an on November 5th.
00:08:53.040 So I don't know if that was something that, that really drew us in.
00:08:56.440 And of course, leading up to the confirmation hearings, but I totally agree with you.
00:09:00.500 And to go back to your point of, you know, you never saw yourself here.
00:09:04.640 I believe we have a lot of similarities there as well, uh, from a standpoint of, we were
00:09:09.540 just doing what, what we prepared to do, like what we had done our whole lives.
00:09:14.900 Right.
00:09:15.240 Like, yes.
00:09:16.580 And then suddenly, I mean, we're on stages speaking at Trump rallies, like what a, what
00:09:22.400 a mind blowing, surreal, but such a rewarding, uh, experience to be a part of.
00:09:29.140 Uh, you revealed in a conversation with vice president, JD Vance, that you were a first
00:09:34.580 time voter for Trump.
00:09:35.520 You did not vote for Trump in 2020.
00:09:37.580 So what did it feel?
00:09:38.540 I didn't vote at all.
00:09:39.160 I'd never voted at all.
00:09:41.160 Wow.
00:09:41.640 I don't know if I realized that.
00:09:43.020 I would have voted for Trump the first time as well.
00:09:44.800 And the second time.
00:09:46.140 And then of course the third time.
00:09:48.480 So compare 2020 to 2024.
00:09:51.940 All right.
00:09:52.140 And I guess, and 2016 for that matter.
00:09:53.840 So, I mean, what really was it that changed for you was some of it like the backlash you
00:09:59.800 were getting, which I tend to think has an, an opposite desired effect.
00:10:04.520 The other side, they, you know, they're quick to, to the whole cancel culture thing, which
00:10:08.700 has certainly lost its grip now.
00:10:10.640 And it oftentimes the people they want to shout down really their platform only grows.
00:10:16.140 Yeah.
00:10:16.420 I think that, um, really what it was about.
00:10:19.660 And I, I, I wonder if this is the case for a lot of people is that it just like felt
00:10:25.940 like a mad world that we were living in.
00:10:29.540 And it was like, like, I look at especially conservatives as being a lot of people that
00:10:35.540 are just like, kind of let me go about my life.
00:10:37.420 Let me live my life.
00:10:38.480 Like maybe not get too involved.
00:10:40.560 There's not, there's not a big activist in me whatsoever.
00:10:43.260 Like, um, but don't piss us off because as soon as you start taking things away from
00:10:50.860 like the ability to live the life that you want to live and the way you want to live it
00:10:56.240 now, you have no idea what you're dealing with.
00:10:59.600 You just don't like the amount of, um, integrity and truth and drive that exists within that
00:11:08.000 belief in a certain life that you should be able to live, I think created such a, such
00:11:13.200 a huge momentum in this campaign with people that were just out there like myself saying
00:11:18.080 like, this is literally the vote of reason.
00:11:21.180 This is like, this is just a rational vote.
00:11:23.860 We need to get the world back to the country, especially, but I, it has an effect on the
00:11:29.560 world back to just some basics, man.
00:11:32.160 Just like where, how did we get so far off?
00:11:35.380 Like it had to be so surreal for you to be standing on that podium next to a dude and
00:11:40.580 being like, how is this happening?
00:11:43.380 This is ridiculous.
00:11:44.760 So I just think this was a bunch of conservative rational, even if you're not conservative,
00:11:49.640 because there's obviously plenty of Democrats that became either independent or Republican
00:11:53.720 in the process of all of this.
00:11:55.280 That was very public Tulsi included Bobby, um, that, you know, obviously came over, but it's
00:12:01.780 just like, this is just about getting back to some reasonable way of living.
00:12:07.300 And what you just described is the same sentiment that I don't know what percentage of Trump
00:12:14.240 voters, but I've said it from the beginning.
00:12:16.320 Of course, I know there are people who turned out to the polls to embrace Donald Trump, to
00:12:20.600 embrace his America first agenda, to embrace his cabinet picks.
00:12:23.660 But I truly believe more so people, people like you, they turned out to the polls to reject
00:12:30.100 absurdity, which is exactly what the democratic party has become from top to bottom, at least in
00:12:36.540 terms, maybe not amongst the general public, the, the everyday, you know, American Democrat,
00:12:42.400 but definitely in terms of elected representation and definitely in terms of, of how the media
00:12:48.740 left, left, left-leaning media is presenting and talking about these topics, such as keeping men
00:12:54.600 out of women's sports, which you're passionate about.
00:12:58.220 I mean, is this, do you think this is something that you feel passionate about?
00:13:01.800 Do you think it's ironic that I'm passionate about that because I was a girl in a guy's sport?
00:13:05.580 I was going to ask you, you know, it's, it's, which has been amazing to see what all you've
00:13:09.960 accomplished in a male dominated sport.
00:13:13.580 There are just clear biological differences between the two.
00:13:16.480 I mean, all you have to do is YouTube or Google some stories of people that took transition
00:13:22.040 drugs and how, you know, different they felt taking testosterone, whether it be strength
00:13:27.640 or, you know, libido or just like all the changes that end up happening.
00:13:32.820 It's like hormones play a huge role.
00:13:36.000 I mean, hormones to some, to a large degree, create your personality.
00:13:40.240 And so, um, and they definitely drive biology.
00:13:44.260 So, uh, so there's just some clear differences.
00:13:47.020 So when it comes to, um, strength and pure potential there, there's just no question that
00:13:52.660 guys are able to achieve more than women.
00:13:55.460 Uh, so you're smarter than our last president.
00:13:58.220 Congratulations.
00:13:59.940 Um, I wanted to take much to some degree.
00:14:02.760 And I think there was probably a point in time that he was far more, you know, with it, but
00:14:07.360 unfortunately these last year and four years, really, I'm not sure there was too much of
00:14:12.480 that presidency where he, you know, was, uh, as sharp as he needed to be to run this country.
00:14:18.000 And those stories only more emerged sort of late when the, uh, when the campaign was really
00:14:23.100 fired up is that there was a lot of stories from much earlier on in, in, um, Biden's presidency
00:14:28.880 that were questionable.
00:14:30.400 Yeah, they were totally concealed.
00:14:32.220 And now you have people like Jake Tapper who are writing books about Biden's decline
00:14:37.160 and the coverup.
00:14:38.060 When you see all these clips of him being the coverup, really crazy stuff.
00:14:44.580 Um, I love seeing those clips where people, there's like one that I saw maybe yesterday
00:14:48.220 or this morning.
00:14:48.740 It was like a compilation of all of the different people within the democratic party that just
00:14:53.140 were spewing propaganda by saying he's sharp as ever.
00:14:57.120 And they were like, they weren't even like, he's doing great.
00:14:59.820 They literally were like, he is the sharpest man in the room.
00:15:03.220 He is, we can't outpace him.
00:15:05.140 He's, you know, it's like, wow, how does that?
00:15:08.020 But then again, you know, I feel like as a person, you kind of, you, you are one way
00:15:14.280 or the other, you tell the truth or you lie.
00:15:16.080 And so like for some people, I think that we're able to tell those kinds of lies.
00:15:20.560 It's probably the tip of the iceberg for the amount of lies told.
00:15:24.400 And the American people are seeing it now.
00:15:27.740 Unfortunately, we had to have our eyes open and in the way that we did, but now we're seeing
00:15:33.240 the results of their lies and us and us being able to decipher their lies.
00:15:38.540 For example, Joy Reid's show has been canceled.
00:15:41.400 It is solely because we've seen Rachel Maddow and different people blame it on racism and
00:15:46.200 how MSNBC is just racist because they fired a black woman.
00:15:49.400 And no, it's because, has she ever considered, it's because her viewership has tanked.
00:15:54.700 It's because people don't want to watch someone who lies or someone who is constantly race
00:16:00.620 fading or whatever it is that Joy Reid has spent her tenure doing.
00:16:06.900 So we're seeing it now.
00:16:08.320 And just having anger.
00:16:09.200 Like, I think that's just one of the other common denominators that you tend to find on
00:16:13.440 the liberal side of things is instead of like a back and forth dialogue or a rational explanation
00:16:18.560 or factual information, it's just, it's just anger and pointing the finger and being mad.
00:16:26.340 And, and look, that's just not, that's not a magnetic kind of a personality that's going
00:16:31.660 to bring people in.
00:16:33.200 There's no laughter there.
00:16:34.580 Like, shoot, when I think of laughter, I think of Tucker Carlson, like people love him.
00:16:38.640 Like, he can say anything and then just have that giggle, you know?
00:16:42.020 And so there's just, with so much of the time with the, I feel like on the liberal side
00:16:46.300 of things, there's just so much anger in there and there's no likeness.
00:16:48.900 There's no, there's no laughing.
00:16:51.020 There's no understanding.
00:16:52.180 It's just kind of just, it's just sad.
00:16:55.460 It's just a sad broadcast.
00:16:57.460 That's definitely what my personal experience has been.
00:17:00.520 Whether it's getting on college campuses, of course, on social media, but, but I'm referring
00:17:05.540 to.
00:17:05.920 What is it like?
00:17:06.340 What is it like?
00:17:07.060 I mean, I'm very curious about, cause I didn't go to college at all.
00:17:09.800 I didn't even finish high school.
00:17:10.840 I got my GED.
00:17:11.720 I moved to England.
00:17:12.800 So I have no understanding or experience for what a college campus is like.
00:17:17.480 And I'm so curious because having seen, obviously, Charlie's fantastic clips of him going into
00:17:22.720 schools and just asking the simple question, like, what is a woman there?
00:17:26.760 And, you know, it's just, they're all, they're always quite entertaining.
00:17:29.260 I mean, university and college is 99% democratic professors, which then lead to sort of a level
00:17:38.080 of indoctrination into a certain kind of ideology.
00:17:41.560 So I have no, I have no idea what that's like.
00:17:45.780 What is it like?
00:17:46.600 Well, of course it's, it would have looked very different from when you were in college,
00:17:51.340 I believe.
00:17:52.420 I didn't go.
00:17:53.000 So I would have had no, I'm, oh yeah.
00:17:54.240 If I went, you mean.
00:17:55.420 Yeah.
00:17:55.800 Yeah.
00:17:55.960 True.
00:17:56.560 I imagine it would have looked very different, you know, 20, 30 years ago compared to now.
00:18:01.160 And I imagine it will look even different in five years, but I believe in five years, we're
00:18:05.680 going to start to see the shift again, back to normalcy because what we've seen, what people
00:18:11.960 like Charlie Kirk have really been able to prove.
00:18:13.980 And of course, what the numbers on November 5th, what they showed us about the younger demographic
00:18:18.740 is we are making that shift back, both men and women.
00:18:22.180 Of course, women even still typically tend to be more liberal, but the numbers are going
00:18:26.760 back.
00:18:27.600 And so I can tell you about my experience in college.
00:18:30.160 I think things really expedited during COVID.
00:18:33.340 That's when, you know, we were sent home for a few months, but when we came back to school,
00:18:38.160 I was so shocked to see how our universities and our administrators and our professors were
00:18:44.900 so easily able to control us and how easily we felt for it.
00:18:49.360 And from that, what we saw in 2020, 2021, and then what we continue to see in 2022, I mean,
00:18:55.660 you look at what happened surrounding, you know, after October 7th and how, I mean, there
00:19:00.780 was just riots on these college campuses, universities like prestigious universities like Columbia,
00:19:07.180 where professors and administrators were unwilling to dismantle these encampments.
00:19:11.760 And of course, the trans rights activist community, what they were able to get away with.
00:19:16.940 Again, in my own personal experience, Danica, I have been, I mean, physically assaulted and
00:19:22.740 punched and held hostage on campuses.
00:19:25.400 Seriously?
00:19:25.640 Oh my gosh.
00:19:27.040 In San Francisco, I was literally a group of protesters, hundreds of them.
00:19:32.280 I'm speaking in a room.
00:19:33.640 They come in, they turn off the lights and they ambush me and I'm fully accosted.
00:19:37.920 And I'm, I'm being pushed.
00:19:39.080 I'm being shoved again, punched in the face by these men wearing dresses.
00:19:42.540 They ended up holding me in a classroom, barricading me in for, you know, four, almost five hours,
00:19:48.240 demanding that if I wanted to make it back home to see my family safely again, I had to pay
00:19:52.920 them money. The Dean of Students shows up. It's like the middle of the night about midnight and
00:19:57.360 starts negotiating with these students, how much I owed each of them to be able to leave.
00:20:02.280 All the while the police are being held for ransom with me. They're scared to do their job because
00:20:07.220 they told me outright, we can't be seen as anything other than an ally to that community or else we'll
00:20:12.120 lose our jobs. And then of course, eventually after almost five hours, I get out of this room
00:20:16.960 only because police formed a diamond around me. We pushed out. But the next day,
00:20:22.620 to continue to speak all of this, to, to speak to how progressive, I don't even like that word
00:20:28.680 because progress means, you know, we're moving into, I would actually say regressive to speak
00:20:32.820 to how regressive these universities have become. The next day, the vice president of student affairs
00:20:39.420 at the university, uh, sent out a university wide email. So of course, all faculty, all staff,
00:20:45.360 all professors, the entire student body. And in this email, she said, we are so proud of our brave
00:20:51.060 students for handling Riley Gaines in the manner that they did, because we know how deeply traumatic
00:20:55.740 her presence is on this campus. And so here's some counseling resources for you all, you know,
00:21:00.820 take the day off of school. Wow. Well, God, no wonder why you have such passion for all of this to be put
00:21:09.340 into those kinds of dangerous situations. But these are not on any level, rational ways of thinking.
00:21:18.520 This is either driven by fear of losing something, perhaps a job, or how wildly effective propaganda
00:21:26.800 and, um, and brainwashing can be. And, you know, you see so many things nowadays with, um, how, uh,
00:21:35.560 Project Mockingbird and Mockingbird and how, you know, with only three networks back in the day,
00:21:40.360 it was far easier to control the masses. And now, and they didn't think that there would be any
00:21:44.620 influence with these little podcasts here and there. Um, but they realize now that of course it's,
00:21:51.400 it, it does have its influence. And so that's, what's lost the grip on the media, but, um, but
00:21:56.500 they've, they've obviously found other ways. I mean, I think we still have to be vigilant with our
00:22:01.380 social and with our consuming of things because it's, uh, the algorithms are always driving our
00:22:07.720 feed. So, but it's, uh, you know, it's a great time in the media because things like your show and
00:22:14.080 Joe Rogan and all these other cool things where it's like, you know, people just speaking the truth,
00:22:19.360 at least from their perspective. Look, I think truth is, there's, there's, there's a narrow,
00:22:23.960 narrow window of objective, objective truth. There are a lot of sides to things, but for people
00:22:30.220 to just be able to at least share their truth is, um, a huge, huge win.
00:22:37.460 You can't hide reality anymore. I think, uh, had not been for really, I, I credit a lot of what we've
00:22:44.200 seen in regards to free speech and the outcome again of the election to Elon Musk.
00:22:49.360 Uh, and his, his purchase of X, which at the time was probably a dumb purchase, but looking back,
00:22:55.280 uh, I would call it a worthy investment, but because of that, we're seeing amazing things that,
00:23:00.360 that I think mainstream media wouldn't have showed us things like president Trump, uh, at Daytona and
00:23:06.360 just being, the crowd is roaring. Everyone is so excited and applauding and so joyous. Like it really
00:23:14.520 was explosive. And so what was your reaction? Yeah, I watched it. I was so excited. My,
00:23:20.500 my sister-in-law, Jamie little got to interview him at the end of pit road before he got in. So
00:23:24.840 that was really cool. Um, but, uh, it's, you know, for sure it's a, it's a good community for him. I
00:23:35.320 um, is a very conservative, um, group of people. Um, so it's a very welcoming environment and I'm
00:23:41.620 sure has been very supportive of him, supportive of him, uh, over the last couple, well, shoot,
00:23:47.220 it's been, I mean, it's more than a decade now. Um, so it's a good place for him, but it also just
00:23:52.580 shows to, uh, you know, what, how good it can feel when people get on the same team.
00:23:58.140 And there was nothing controversial about anything that he did. It was like, you know,
00:24:02.680 love the country, support the troops that stand up for our country and fight for our country,
00:24:08.600 uh, support those who entertain the people of this country with their skillset, whether it be racing
00:24:14.480 or, you know, I watched, I was watching the Stanley cup fine. Oh no, I was watching, um, the, uh, four,
00:24:20.600 what was it called? The four nations championship in hockey and, uh, you know, watching him on the
00:24:26.520 phone with the coach and he took the phone into the room with all the players and president Trump's
00:24:31.860 on the phone telling all the players, good luck. Um, so whether it's him just supporting athletes
00:24:36.760 and being, um, you know, the, the, the rare humans that they are, uh, it's just, he's just so human.
00:24:43.100 I think that's kind of really what I feel like has to be so prevalent in everybody's mind now is like,
00:24:48.540 you can't fake as much as he's shown you, right? Like even when you look at the, um, the cabinet
00:24:55.180 meeting today, it was more like a press conference. It wasn't really like, I mean, I don't know what
00:24:59.700 work they got done. Maybe the TV's left and reporters left and they had a conversation, but
00:25:04.240 you know, there's, it just seems like no, no opportunity where he's going to get caught off
00:25:08.660 guard or isn't prepared. And the only way you can do that is if you're real. And if you know your stuff,
00:25:16.120 otherwise you need to be prepped. You need to be protected. You got to be careful who you talk to
00:25:20.720 and where they get after you and what they say. Um, you don't want to get exposed and, and, and
00:25:26.380 Trump just doesn't have to do that because he gets it. He knows it. He lives it, believes it. And
00:25:31.560 he's, and he's, and he's very clear on his path. And, and you know, this, uh, he is the exact same
00:25:37.620 person on camera as he is off camera. No facade. There is no, uh, you know, that that's, that's just who
00:25:46.780 he is and being a human. I thought it was so awesome at that race to see his little
00:25:51.760 granddaughter there. Right. How amazing was that? Um, of course he's, he's the president
00:25:57.060 of this great country, but you know, to her, he's, he's just granddad. And I thought that
00:26:01.480 was really, really sweet and made him really human. Yeah. Well, I think that, you know, if we're,
00:26:06.240 if you, I think you can tell a lot about the, the adult by the children, you know, I think
00:26:12.620 you see a lot of, uh, you can read into a lot of the character there and, um, his whole,
00:26:18.240 the whole family is so successful and so put together. And so, um, you know, just really
00:26:24.180 good human beings. And so I think that that should, that should speak volumes about who
00:26:29.580 he is. And again, you compare that with, uh, previous president, not only his children,
00:26:35.340 but how, uh, I mean, his, his grandkids were alienated from him. So I, I think that is
00:26:42.380 an entirely accurate assessment. Yeah. It's an implied, it's an implied, uh, contrast.
00:26:49.000 Totally. Totally. Last thing I really want to ask you about, which is like, uh, I think
00:26:54.700 it's the most amazing thing ever. I want to hear about your, your wine business and how
00:27:01.140 you operate and what this looks like for you. Oh, goodness. Well, I have a wine dinner to go
00:27:06.100 to in a couple of hours. Um, so the, I started, um, uh, a line called Somnium. It means dream in
00:27:13.180 Latin. And it was really just a trip I took to Napa Valley in 2006, just fell in love with the
00:27:19.440 valley, fell in love with the process wine. And just remember standing on a knoll in the middle
00:27:25.200 of Napa Valley with a glass of white wine at 10 AM thinking to myself, wow, it would be really cool
00:27:31.860 to have something like this someday. And then that led to about two years later, going and looking
00:27:36.360 at a property and buying it and starting the process. Um, so I finally had a bottle of 2014
00:27:42.940 for sale in 2017 after the idea in 2006, finally buying at the beginning of 2009 and going through
00:27:50.600 the whole process. You either need a lot of money to buy something established, or you need
00:27:56.780 to have a lot of time and some money, which is not quite as much. It's a, it is very expensive
00:28:03.720 process, but it is a passion. And, um, and so I love it. Yeah. We've, we've grown. We started off
00:28:09.480 with just an estate Cabernet and then that spread into, um, a Rosé and a Sav Blanc. And now we make
00:28:15.860 a Cab Franc and we make another Cab Cabernet Sauvignon. Um, so we have five different wines that come out of
00:28:21.780 Somnium. And then in 2020, which was the best year to launch anything, um, we launched Danico Rosé,
00:28:28.560 which is, uh, it's a Rosé made in Provence, France. So, um, so that's the, I guess, sixth wine,
00:28:34.500 but it's a, it's a separate label. So yeah, I just love wine. I just love the process. I love the,
00:28:41.060 you know, I, have you ever gone wine tasting before? So in Kentucky where I went to school,
00:28:45.740 uh, we have a lot of bourbon tasting, right? That's big over there. Yeah. So you kind of get
00:28:51.700 it like there's barrels and harvesting. Well, is there harvesting or is it's more like fermenting?
00:28:56.620 Do they just use green? Yeah. So, you know, it's a, it's a, it's a very similar process in its nature.
00:29:02.700 It takes time, but you know, winemaking is just, you know, you, you really realize with how much goes
00:29:09.060 into making that bottle of wine, you're drinking so much labor, you're drinking so much love.
00:29:16.480 And, um, so yeah, and it's a great way. I mean, at the end of the day, my, all of the companies that
00:29:22.060 I start always have sort of like a deeper ceilingless mission, which Somnium for me is about
00:29:28.960 being really present with who you're with, um, sharing that wine with family, with friends,
00:29:35.100 making memories and connecting in that way that, um, that we all used to so easily at the dinner
00:29:41.560 table, um, and, um, and, and gathered in community. Like I think that community is something that's
00:29:48.740 dissipated over time with families moving to separate parts of the country and less family
00:29:54.040 members and, and, um, and just like less community overall. And I think that, uh, my whole, my whole
00:30:01.020 dream for Somnium is to really just let this be an anchor to creating great memories with people
00:30:06.680 that you love and care about. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. And I think that's a mission
00:30:12.100 statement that majority of Americans can get behind. Uh, actually last thing for you, because I just
00:30:18.180 thought of it and I'm curious if you could get in a race car and drive around the track with three
00:30:25.880 people dead or alive, who are you picking? Oh, um, uh, well, so I'm assuming I'll be racing against
00:30:33.280 them and I can, I can write, I'm racing. They're not in my car, right? I'm racing against them. I'm
00:30:38.080 driving. Yeah. Yeah. Let's say, well, let's maybe let's do a hybrid. Let's see. Well, cause I think
00:30:42.820 I'd probably want to want to see how I stacked up against Dyer and Senna, which was, he was one of the
00:30:48.080 greats in formula one. Um, maybe, uh, maybe, maybe get out there and, um, you know, door bang with,
00:30:56.160 um, with Dale Earnhardt senior. Um, obviously no junior super well. I drove for him. He's a friend
00:31:02.340 and his wife, Amy's great. Um, but you know, he was always, he was known as the intimidator. So that
00:31:07.700 would be a fun person to like, see like, what was that? What did that feel like? Would I be intimidated?
00:31:12.220 Um, cause I have a real mean streak in me at times. Uh, and then man, maybe some, maybe who
00:31:18.840 like put, put someone in my car, who would I want to put in my car? I think I put Jesus in my car.
00:31:24.560 Um, I think that, uh, you know, in all of my spiritual practices and religious experiences,
00:31:30.160 you know, I've in, in connecting with the energy of, of Jesus, it always has felt like,
00:31:36.700 like a homie, like a, like, like just your best friend, like someone that's just super cool,
00:31:42.220 and on your level, but just all love. And, um, and so, yeah, I mean, that, there you go. That'd
00:31:49.180 be my passenger. I love that. I love that. And he is, he's all love and he's, he's all truth at all
00:31:55.260 times, which is, I feel like the embodiment of our conversation. So, uh, thank you for, for everything
00:32:02.680 that you have done, uh, and for joining the podcast, um, to learn a little bit more about you
00:32:08.060 outside of, of the political arena that you have found yourself in over the past about year now.
00:32:14.920 Uh, just very grateful for you. So thank you. Thank you, Riley. You've, uh, again, like I said,
00:32:20.140 before we got on, we were, you know, you were saying sweet things to me and I'm like, look,
00:32:25.260 woman, I've got two decades on you. You're so young. You're so articulate. You're so put together.
00:32:30.420 You're such a hard worker. Um, you, uh, probably will have, I'm going to guess in decades to come,
00:32:38.680 you're going to, uh, you're going to even blow yourself away with all the things that you do
00:32:42.820 and where you're at. So we'll see, we'll see. And just continuing to trust God in the process.
00:32:49.020 So yeah, well, that's the way to go. That's it. That's it. Well, you rock. Thank you.
00:32:53.420 Thank you. How can you not just love her, uh, in person too? She's like teeny tiny. She's
00:32:59.980 short and she's so fit. She's beautiful. Uh, and really, like I said, in my intro,
00:33:04.500 uh, she's a role model of mine. As always, we are grateful that you're here and listening
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