Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - August 21, 2024


Has the Democratic Party Betrayed Women？


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00:00:00.000 hello everybody welcome back to the gains for girls podcast thank you for tuning in
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00:00:27.420 uh it's been a big week uh it continues to be a big week uh this has felt like a a century long
00:00:34.440 past few weeks really whether it was president trump getting shot whether it's been kamala
00:00:39.540 harris becoming the presumptive democratic presidential nominee uh avoiding any sort of
00:00:45.300 press conference interview unscripted question for for now almost 30 days uh it has felt like a
00:00:51.760 century these past few months uh but a big week for uh women's sports uh we have now seen where
00:00:58.180 elon musk and jk rowling are being sued by a main caliph the male boxer the boxer with y chromosomes
00:01:06.140 who was previously barred uh from competing in the world championships because of his failed
00:01:11.340 sex eligibility tests uh well he's now suing billionaires i will be interested to see how
00:01:17.560 that goes for him uh we saw just this week where sam ponder uh one of the i have had the the pleasure
00:01:24.460 of being able to spend some time with her one of the most beautiful kind authentic genuine intentional
00:01:33.620 people you could ever meet on a personal level of course she's incredible at her job uh we saw this
00:01:40.080 week where espn yes that's right espn owned by disney of course fired sam ponder um this was news to me
00:01:49.740 uh i was looking up you know what was the reasoning they said this was for budget cuts uh but it should
00:01:55.300 be no surprise that sam ponder was the only current employee the the only current female employee
00:02:01.440 at espn who was willing to publicly declare that men do not belong in women's sports uh just about a
00:02:09.300 year ago sam she quoted one of my tweets talking about the biden administration and title nine and
00:02:14.120 what they were doing uh to this to this ruling effectively abolishing title nine she quoted one
00:02:20.340 of my tweets and said that it wasn't hateful to demand fairness in sports for girls uh then usa today
00:02:26.940 columnist or columnist nancy armor she then attacked ponder for her views she claimed that her views
00:02:33.440 reflected bigotry and they were a sham uh ponder she's been the host of espn's
00:02:39.260 nfl countdown since 2017 she went on to then respond to this article by nancy armor saying
00:02:45.460 that biology is not bigotry and even went on to say that loving people does not require the absence
00:02:51.160 of boundaries um absolutely but now uh she has received the sage steel treatment the david pollack
00:02:59.540 treatment both guests who have been interviewed on the gains for girls podcast and so i encourage you
00:03:03.200 to go back and listen to those episodes um all of that to say espn is a joke uh we absolutely stand
00:03:11.160 with sam ponder again one of the most incredible women i've ever met so it's espn's lost no doubt she
00:03:17.800 will she will land on her feet uh she will be doing just fine for herself but we absolutely stand with
00:03:23.600 her that brings us to today's guest uh we've heard it many times since the seemingly quick with little
00:03:33.180 debate embrace of the gender ideology movement and and that thing i'm talking about is the question of
00:03:40.080 where are the feminists this is a valid question i initially wondered this question uh but we will have
00:03:46.480 that question answered us for answered for us today because we are talking to kara dansky uh she is a
00:03:53.140 self-proclaimed she calls herself a progressive a lifelong democrat uh and now she calls herself a
00:03:59.660 TERF which stands for trans exclusionary radical feminists uh she is a public speaker she is a writer
00:04:05.340 she is a consultant uh who is committed to protecting the rights the privacy the opportunities the safety
00:04:11.720 of women and girls on the basis of sex in law and throughout society uh in november of 2021 she
00:04:18.280 released a book uh it is called the abolition of sex how the transgender agenda harms women and girls
00:04:23.780 uh and just this november she released another book it is called the reckoning how the democratic left
00:04:30.460 and or how the democrats in the left have abandoned women and girls uh really great books i encourage you
00:04:36.040 to pick them up read them regardless of what your political views are uh very insightful
00:04:41.340 uh she's currently serves as the president of the u.s chapter of wdi which is women's declaration
00:04:47.880 international uh which again seeks to promote the declaration on women's sex-based rights so check
00:04:53.840 out the conversation here with kara dansky well kara thank you for joining the gains for girls podcast
00:04:59.700 i have had the pleasure of getting to know you over these past two years or so uh which has just been
00:05:05.600 uh the biggest honor of mine and so i want you to take a little bit and tell us about yourself
00:05:10.820 and when you became a feminist thank you so much riley and let me just start off by saying thank you so
00:05:18.540 much for your endorsement of my book the reckoning how the democrats and the left betrayed women and
00:05:23.560 girls uh when did i become a feminist so i have never really not been a feminist i think i became a
00:05:29.020 feminist as an early teenager uh and then in in college and again in law school i studied feminist
00:05:34.940 philosophy feminist theory feminist legal thought uh but then my career took a different turn and
00:05:41.420 when i graduated from law school i decided to go into criminal law and criminal justice my first job
00:05:48.200 after clerking in federal court was as a public defender and from there i went to stanford law school
00:05:53.600 where i was the executive director of the stanford criminal justice center i had a couple other jobs
00:05:59.580 one of which was working at the aclu uh i worked on the aclu's campaign against mass incarceration
00:06:05.620 and the campaign against police militarization i have always thought of myself as being on the political
00:06:11.400 left and still do and at one point uh in 2015 no and in 2014 a radical feminist schooled me
00:06:21.820 in how quote-unquote gender identity is a threat to women and girls as a sex class and in 2015 i joined
00:06:29.100 the women's liberation front in 2016 i joined the board of women's liberation front and stayed there
00:06:34.720 until 2020 and in 2021 i started getting active in women's declaration international a global organization
00:06:43.060 of radical feminists that fights to protect women and girls as a sex class and i served as the president
00:06:48.580 from 2021 until just this past july july 31st was my last day as president of the u.s chapter
00:06:55.500 of wdi and although i still remain very active with the organization but maybe what is most relevant to
00:07:03.060 this conversation is that as i was working on the board of women's liberation front i was doing that
00:07:08.920 all as a volunteer and my paid work was as a consultant working with various progressive left-leaning
00:07:15.000 non-profit organizations on topics related to uh drug law policy other topics related to mass
00:07:21.800 incarceration immigration and at one point a contractor kicked me off a project because she
00:07:28.080 said that my views on sex and gender were considered toxic and she didn't want to kick me off the project
00:07:34.200 she really liked working with me she disagrees with me on this topic but she ended up having to kick me
00:07:39.320 off because she told me the aclu of texas had complained about my participation in the project
00:07:45.380 so eventually i got canceled from my almost 20-year career in the so-called progressive criminal justice
00:07:51.960 reform movement so now all i do is uh work to protect the sex-based rights of women and girls
00:07:57.900 wow um so obviously i mean really there's there's no one better to have this conversation with
00:08:06.040 uh you've seen obviously far longer than i have i'm new to to understanding uh the controversy that
00:08:14.720 has seemingly consumed our country really globally uh but you've been seeing this for a long time
00:08:19.920 uh even now i saw recently where you wrote a letter an open letter to vice president kamala harris
00:08:28.000 specifically uh and so will you talk a little bit about this letter what you included in this letter
00:08:33.920 because again i think it's something that that people want to hear yeah so it was maybe just over
00:08:38.480 a week ago or so i i think about this topic all the time and i don't know exactly what made me do it
00:08:45.500 but something inspired me to sit down at my computer and type out all about how i've met vice president
00:08:51.580 kamala harris although to be clear there's no reason she would remember meeting me i've met her
00:08:56.320 three times all encounters were very brief so i'm not trying to claim that we're friends or anything
00:09:02.880 like that but i have met her and i thought all right look i wrote the book the reckoning how the
00:09:09.980 democrats and the left betrayed women and girls and that was published in november and that was two
00:09:15.960 years after i published my first book the abolition of sex how the transgender agenda harms women and
00:09:21.720 girls and november of 2023 was obviously also one year before the november presidential elections this
00:09:27.940 year and my thinking and the publisher's thinking was look democrats you've got a year to get your act
00:09:35.700 together to knock it off with all this gender identity nonsense and to get back voters on the left
00:09:43.960 who are angry at you and there are a lot of your viewers might not be aware there are countless rank
00:09:51.280 and file democrats who are sick to the teeth of what democratic party leadership is doing here the
00:10:00.840 you know mainstream legacy media outlets will not let you know that they don't want americans across
00:10:06.580 the political spectrum to know that there are countless rank and file democrats who are furious
00:10:12.380 at democratic party leadership so i published that book last november to say listen democrats get it
00:10:19.360 together knock it off and get back your voters specifically female voters but men too there are
00:10:25.320 plenty of democrat men who are angry at the democrats as well including my partner who's here right now
00:10:31.720 um so and that hasn't happened right we haven't seen it in fact they're just digging their heels in
00:10:38.640 we know that in april of this year the department of education finalized rules under title nine that will
00:10:44.940 complete that do completely redefine sex to include so-called gender identity so the democrats have
00:10:52.640 just doubled down they haven't heeded the warning so this day about a week ago i just thought all right
00:10:58.600 kamala like let's give it one last shot and so i sat down and wrote that letter and it explains
00:11:06.320 how the democrats are getting this so disastrously wrong and i i'm particularly irritated because as i say
00:11:14.900 in the letter i worked very closely with the vice president's sister maya harris in hillary
00:11:22.200 clinton's 2016 presidential campaign we were in almost daily contact i have her personal contact
00:11:29.620 information and in may of 2019 i sent her a very long email explaining how the whole concept of gender
00:11:38.080 identity throws women and girls under the bus i also explained that it's horribly homophobic
00:11:44.520 and why all the lesbians i know are very angry about it and i didn't get a response from her and i was not
00:11:51.700 surprised but i asked her to share the information with her sister the vice president i have no way of
00:11:57.220 knowing whether she did that or not but if she did it's quite clear that the vice president knows exactly
00:12:02.940 what's going on so there are a lot of people i see uh frequently on twitter x who say oh you know joe
00:12:09.680 biden and kamala harris are just confused they're being advised by the wrong people no they know and
00:12:16.580 i know they know and my book the reckoning sets out all the reasons i know they know and so my letter to
00:12:23.680 vice president harris is really a last-ditch effort to say you know look do the right thing stand up at
00:12:30.080 the dnc this month in a week or so or a couple days maybe and say that a woman is an adult human female
00:12:37.080 now do i think she's going to do that no i do not i think there's approximately zero chance that she's
00:12:43.340 going to do that but i don't do things like write this open letter because i actually think she's going
00:12:48.520 to listen i do it because someone like martina navratilova might post it on x and she did i'm very
00:12:55.400 happy to say that martina posted it to her several hundred thousand followers which means there are a
00:13:00.780 lot of eyes on it and my hope is that this will encourage and inspire people to speak up already
00:13:08.840 it's okay you can say out loud that a woman is an adult human female so that was the reason i wrote
00:13:14.780 the letter absolutely i want to go back to one thing you you briefly said you mentioned the the gender
00:13:20.320 ideology movement is deeply homophobic uh is that something you can touch on because i think a lot
00:13:26.220 of you know everyday people might not that's not necessarily where their brain goes immediately
00:13:30.900 when thinking about this issue they think about of course other important factors of it right like
00:13:37.020 the safeguarding of children or how parental rights are being infringed upon or of course women's
00:13:40.820 rights but will you elaborate a little bit on why the gender ideology movement is homophobic
00:13:46.160 it's homophobic generally because we cannot protect same-sex attraction in the law if we cannot say
00:13:54.280 what sex is and so the gay rights movement was very successful in getting laws on the books that
00:13:59.560 prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in the areas of housing employment and
00:14:06.220 in 2015 marriage now a lot of your viewers may disagree with the 2015 decision on marriage that's fine
00:14:11.880 i'm not here to argue about that but regardless of how one thinks about same-sex marriage regardless
00:14:17.460 of whether you think it should be protected or not in order to even have the concept you have to
00:14:21.920 understand what sex means and so it's just generally homophobic for that reason in particular it is
00:14:28.160 threatening to lesbians as a class of women because lesbians are now being told that they're that that um
00:14:37.580 that they need to date men right so a man who calls himself a lesbian will join a lesbian dating app
00:14:44.480 and demand that lesbians include him in their dating profile and lesbians don't want to do this by
00:14:50.440 definition lesbians are women who are exclusively attracted to women and they're not interested in
00:14:55.040 men and so from that perspective it's no different from 1950s homophobia where people were saying to
00:15:01.240 lesbians you just haven't found the right man yet right and that's what's happening again today
00:15:05.640 and finally i would just say you mentioned the topic of child safeguarding it's particularly
00:15:12.020 devastating to young people who are finding themselves being same-sex attracted and they're
00:15:17.640 being told that if they are attracted to members of the same sex then they must be the opposite sex
00:15:22.360 and a lot of these kids are going on puberty blockers and opposite sex hormones sometimes having
00:15:28.160 surgeries done when really they're just young gay people and so a lot of people say that trans is
00:15:34.540 effectively transing the gay away that's actually a phrase that people talk about yeah wow yeah i think
00:15:41.560 it's important insight and again i don't imagine a lot of people think about it like that so thank you
00:15:46.240 you mentioned you you sent an email a while ago to the vice president's sister didn't get a response i
00:15:55.960 imagine you haven't yet received a response from from vp harris no and i don't expect to but i will
00:16:04.080 also just say in may of 2019 when i sent that email to the vice president sister maya i did not know
00:16:13.020 that in 2017 maya had joined the board of an organization called the arkus foundation for anyone who
00:16:19.940 doesn't know the arkus foundation was founded by a man named john striker the arkus foundation has for
00:16:25.420 years now been funding spending millions and millions of dollars annually on various trans or
00:16:32.320 queer projects and so the arkus foundation is one of the worst offenders when it comes to fueling
00:16:38.100 the industry of gender identity and maya served on its board from 2017 to 2018 which i didn't know when
00:16:45.640 i sent her that 2019 email but as soon as i learned it i understood immediately why she did not respond to
00:16:51.500 my email of course i mean that makes sense um but do you feel like this is common i mean yourself
00:16:58.260 other traditional feminists do you feel as if you've you've kind of been shut out of the conversation
00:17:03.420 entirely whether it's from the democratic party whether it's from groups like uh the international
00:17:09.020 olympic committee uh other corporate groups what have you do you feel like your voices have been just
00:17:14.560 entirely ignored for the most part yes uh and you know i will say that for the entire time that i've
00:17:21.560 been talking about this conservative media will platform me and i'm very grateful for that because
00:17:26.300 uh you know it's really important this should not be a partisan issue and so i'm very grateful for the
00:17:31.080 conservative outlets that will give me a platform i've published in the federalist my open letter to
00:17:36.400 kamala harris was published in the washington examiner which is generally considered to be a right
00:17:40.520 leaning outlet i've had several uh interviews recently in local conservative media so i'm very
00:17:46.740 grateful for that but media outlets like the new york times the washington post msnbc they will not
00:17:53.460 platform feminists who are on the political left who will speak out against so-called gender identity
00:18:00.100 because they don't want americans across the political spectrum to know that we're out here
00:18:04.540 right what's your response when people say i hear it all the time when people say where are the
00:18:11.460 feminists i mean as a feminist yourself i imagine this this has to be a bit infuriating you've been
00:18:17.680 fighting the fight for for i mean decades now at least over one decade um it's got to be relatively
00:18:24.000 angering when you hear this question but but do you kind of understand where people are coming from
00:18:29.940 so so what's your response when you hear that so there's a woman on twitter who gave herself the
00:18:35.360 twitter handle the feminists with a little trademark symbol so when someone says we're the feminists she
00:18:41.500 can just reply and be like here we are um so my response to that is first i do understand it
00:18:47.980 because organizations like the national organization for women planned parenthood the women's march uh the
00:18:55.080 national center for lesbian rights the national center for women's rights have all completely sold out
00:18:59.540 women and girls completely uh they are completely captured by the idea that some men are women the
00:19:05.000 national organization for women of course having been set up by gloria steinem for women presumably
00:19:10.260 and they've all completely sold us out and so if that's all you see that's all you know and so the
00:19:15.920 question where are the feminists is a completely reasonable one however yes it is extremely annoying
00:19:21.660 for those of us who have actually been standing up for women and girls as a sex class
00:19:25.900 so my response a couple years ago was to sit down and write a substack to answer the question where
00:19:32.000 are the feminists and it essentially lists all sorts of things from what's been going on in the uk
00:19:37.100 to the founding of the women's liberation front in 2013 to the establishment of women's declaration
00:19:42.980 international and it lists all the things that we're doing and it is necessarily not up to date
00:19:49.200 because i'm too busy doing the things to keep up with that post but there is a substack post on my
00:19:55.180 substack called where are the feminists it's pinned to the top anyone's welcome to use it anytime someone
00:20:00.680 says where are the feminists copy paste into x and hit send it's a very handy guide i love that um you
00:20:09.840 mentioned some of the things that you're doing uh i've been of course we were on this bus tour for
00:20:15.220 the entire month of june essentially uh traveling around the country coast to coast border to border
00:20:20.700 it was the take back title nine bus tour uh really just spreading awareness of what is going on the
00:20:27.120 new title nine rule that went into effect uh just earlier this month and so i i got to see you for for
00:20:32.220 that month um haven't seen you the month of july which is heartbreaking uh but you mentioned some of
00:20:37.660 the stuff that you're doing fill us in on what you yourself what wdi uh what you guys are doing
00:20:42.980 so i guess i can start with the legal front uh wdi usa has since 2020 filed i want to say around
00:20:51.780 eight or so briefs before the united states federal judiciary the first one we filed was in a case
00:20:58.380 called he cox versus little which is coming out of the state of idaho where idaho has a law on the
00:21:04.980 books protecting women only sports shout out to barbara e heart my friend and primary author of that bill
00:21:11.440 it was signed into law by the governor in march of 2020 within two weeks the aclu had filed suit
00:21:18.240 challenging the law representing a male athlete who wanted to be able to compete in the women's track
00:21:23.100 team at his college this case has been mired in litigation ever since and just recently the ninth
00:21:30.260 circuit court of appeals ruled in favor of the male athlete and the state has asked the supreme court to
00:21:35.660 take up the case and so just two days ago wdi usa having filed a brief in support of the state back
00:21:42.960 in 2020 just two days ago we filed a amicus brief before the u.s supreme court urging the court to take
00:21:49.580 the case just yesterday wdi usa filed a similar brief before the united states supreme court urging the court
00:21:57.500 to take up a case that is called west virginia versus vpj this is very similar to the idaho case
00:22:04.020 west virginia has a law in the books protecting female only sports a male athlete challenged the law
00:22:09.420 and eventually the fourth circuit ruled in favor of the male athlete in both cases these male athletes
00:22:15.880 are arguing that the laws violate their rights under title nine and the equal protection clause of the
00:22:22.640 14th amendment because they call themselves women and of course we disagree with that so we very much
00:22:28.660 hope the u.s supreme court takes up one or both of these cases in the meantime wdi usa has filed cases
00:22:35.600 um i'm sorry filed briefs in cases to protect a female only sorority a female only spa and several
00:22:46.040 other cases where we are fighting for women and girls as a sex class under the law and i can tell a brief
00:22:52.820 anecdote about the spa case if you'd like you've heard me tell it before so the spa case came out
00:22:59.520 of the state of washington where there is a women only spa outside seattle i have been to this spa
00:23:06.660 when i lived in seattle my friends and i went a couple times i promise you at that time it was just a
00:23:12.260 bunch of naked women walking around uh nudity is expected in the spa this is a traditional korean
00:23:18.160 style nude spa for women only and a man decided that the spa's female only policy violated his human
00:23:26.520 rights uh and he sued them before the washington state human rights commission which agreed with him
00:23:33.160 and said that washington state law protected him and his gender identity and uh the spa turned around
00:23:40.780 and sued the washington state human rights commission which is a pretty bold move i thought
00:23:44.720 in federal district court and the federal district court among other things also ruled in favor of
00:23:51.800 the man and in that opinion you know i will say over the years that i've been doing this i have become
00:23:58.500 accustomed to reading the phrase transgender women in court opinions i do not like that phrase at all
00:24:04.740 because of course there is no type of woman who is not female however over the years i have at least
00:24:10.560 gotten to the point that i can read the phrase transgender women without you know wanting to
00:24:15.620 throw my computer against a wall however in this case the district court used the phrase
00:24:21.100 transgender women with male genitalia and i just thought oh so then i realized i was going to have
00:24:29.540 to explain on appeal to the ninth circuit court of appeals why the phrase transgender women with male
00:24:35.120 male genitalia is a problem so i had to find a citable definition of male genitalia which i did
00:24:43.140 and it was basically a list of male sexual and reproductive organs and i put that into a federal
00:24:49.580 court brief and i just thought why are we here you know why are we here and i ended up saying in that
00:24:55.740 brief it is truly a testament to where we are as a society today that it must be said in the context of
00:25:01.620 federal civil rights litigation that women don't have penises i mean i literally had to type that
00:25:07.360 into a federal court brief and if you had told me when i graduated law school that i would one day be
00:25:13.120 using my law degree to explain to the united states federal judiciary that women don't have penises
00:25:19.120 i would not have believed you you and every other sane person uh this is never a place i would
00:25:27.060 imagine where um we saw ourselves going even as short as you saw it uh being kind of immersed in
00:25:33.860 the space but but even five six seven years ago your everyday person would have never imagined that
00:25:39.400 we would reach a point where where even the verbiage of her genitalia her male genitalia her penis
00:25:45.980 has to be verbally expressed and then you're reprimanded if you don't say that and so you ask the
00:25:53.520 question of why you know why why are we here why why has the democratic party abandoned women and
00:26:01.840 girls and in the process abandoned biological reality and objective truth so there was this
00:26:10.140 movement in academia called post-modernism starting in the 1960s that basically said um you know nothing
00:26:16.760 is real and all truth is subjective that's the that's the gist and out of that grew so-called queer
00:26:23.180 theory which says that sex isn't real and so one of the things i talk about in both of my books
00:26:28.720 is that if a bunch of wacky academics in the ivory tower had tried to sell the american people on the
00:26:38.620 idea that somehow sex isn't real or that nobody knows how babies are made they would have been laughed
00:26:45.560 out of the room you know they nobody would take any of that seriously because it's absurd uh so they
00:26:52.180 invented the word transgender the word transgender is a much nicer word than you know nobody knows how
00:26:59.660 babies are made right and so they sold it as a civil rights movement that was all going along a pace
00:27:06.040 at the same time that a massive industry was growing and so you know i want people to understand
00:27:12.920 names like john striker who i mentioned of the arkus foundation names like tim gill of the gill foundation
00:27:19.880 tim gill has been called a mega donor of the democratic party by rolling stone magazine the
00:27:26.180 gill foundation does nothing but fund so-called trans and queer projects it's based in colorado and it has
00:27:34.180 totally queered so to speak the colorado democratic party and and you know the gill foundation funded
00:27:42.200 the 2023 pride celebration at the white house and the only reason i know this nobody would really nobody
00:27:48.440 would ever know this but i do crazy things like read the statements of president biden
00:27:53.620 and first lady jill biden that they made during the 2023 pride celebration some folks may remember
00:28:01.200 that 2023 pride was when a man named rosa montoya flashed his fake breasts into a video that then went
00:28:08.520 viral though i should say the white house to its credit then banned him from the white house property so
00:28:13.800 we need to say that that's a good thing but if you read the statements of vice president i'm sorry
00:28:18.360 president biden and first lady biden they both thank tim gill and the gill foundation for their sponsorship
00:28:23.780 of the event and so you know there's a tremendous amount of money behind all of this i also want people
00:28:29.880 to know the name of martine rothblatt martine rothblatt is a man who calls himself a woman who has been
00:28:36.380 featured in new york magazine and on nbc he's a multi-millionaire he has a company called terasem
00:28:42.420 it's t-e-r-a-s-e-m which promotes the idea that human beings can exist without human bodies
00:28:51.260 he promotes this idea and he funds this idea of what he calls mindware where his his aim in life is to
00:28:59.140 make us all superhuman non-human humans if you will he once made a robot of his wife bina so you
00:29:07.880 know some of this sounds conspiratorial i understand it sounds a little bit like tinfoil hat thinking
00:29:12.880 but the thing is it's very real and these people aren't hiding they're right out there in the open
00:29:18.260 they're right out there saying martine rothblatt has a book published called from transgender to
00:29:24.540 transhuman and if he were just some weirdo in his basement you know typing out wacky theories i
00:29:30.960 wouldn't be too worried about it but he's a multi-millionaire and he's pushing this hard
00:29:34.360 and you're right if you can be transgender or transsexual for that matter what's stopping it
00:29:41.060 sounds so outlandish to say transhuman or to think of of the idea of being trans age or any other
00:29:48.700 objective i mean objective truth to be able to alter that it sounds comical it sounds like a south park
00:29:57.080 episode or something but again that's where we're headed if we are willing to deny that sex is not
00:30:04.120 real and so i wanted to ask you really quick too something i'm curious about what are most of you
00:30:12.980 again traditional feminists lifelong democrats progressives or honestly better known as turfs
00:30:18.960 what will you guys do at the ballot box in november obviously we've established that there's not a
00:30:25.880 candidate that aligns 100 with your views naturally and and there never will be so will you vote will
00:30:33.240 you just not vote at all uh this is something that if you feel comfortable answering this is something
00:30:37.520 i'm curious about yeah um i wanted to go back just for a second and urge people to read the 11th hour
00:30:45.120 blog if you want to know more about the why is this happening uh the founder and author at 11th hour
00:30:50.980 blog is a woman named jennifer billick who has traced the money she's all over it so people really ought
00:30:57.060 to read that blog if you want to know more about the why i'm not trying to evade your question what's
00:31:01.780 going to happen in november so i don't know at this moment in time i do not know how if at all i
00:31:09.880 will vote in november i'm going to wait until november 4th to make that decision but i can tell you
00:31:15.320 that of the people i talk to as you say traditional feminists on the left as well as men on the left
00:31:22.640 i would say that we're pretty much equally divided between uh voting for kamala anyway even though
00:31:31.200 we're angry about this issue because of her because of the democrat stance on abortion frankly
00:31:37.260 there are a lot of turfs who will vote democrat to protect abortion rights um a lot of people are
00:31:44.800 sick enough of the democrats that they either won't vote or they'll vote for rfk and an equal number
00:31:51.260 of turfs are so sick of the democrats that they've left the democratic party or they haven't
00:31:57.340 but they'll just vote for trump because they're so angry about this and i will say
00:32:01.140 i'm not judging anyone for their vote this is very hard for people uh on my side of the political
00:32:07.120 aisle who are set up with gender so i'm not judging anyone's decision this is an impossible decision of
00:32:13.280 what to do and as i said i don't know what i'm going to do but i do think that turfs are pretty much
00:32:18.880 equally divided vote for kamala anyway sit it out or vote for rfk or screw it i'm voting for trump
00:32:25.240 that's what a lot of people say interesting yeah it makes sense uh you've mentioned your book several
00:32:30.760 times uh the reckoning how the democrats and the left betrayed women and girls i've read it it's
00:32:36.240 incredible i was fortunate enough to be able to endorse your book it really really is so eye-opening
00:32:41.300 even if you're not a democrat uh even if you just want more insight on the issue how to how to better
00:32:46.900 have the conversation uh to to try and understand the thought process of those on the other side
00:32:52.380 this book is incredible and so kara where can we get it tell us a little bit about it thank you so
00:32:57.980 much it was published in november 2023 it's available on amazon and at barnes and noble you
00:33:04.620 probably can't get it in a bookstore but that's okay you can buy it online i hope everyone does as
00:33:09.180 riley says i i hope it's informative for everyone chapter one of the book explains why i wrote it
00:33:15.420 basically uh the preface to the book is an invitation to democratic women to really sit down and take this
00:33:20.660 seriously uh chapter two chrono uh you know it sets out all the ways in which so-called gender
00:33:27.160 identity convicted male rapists and murderers among other people it talks about female athletes such as
00:33:32.920 riley herself it talks about how lesbians are being harmed as a class of women it talks about how gender
00:33:38.500 identity disproportionately impacts black women as a sex class those two factors are really important
00:33:43.820 lesbians and black women are reliable democratic voting blocs and democrats are just you know they're
00:33:50.220 they're just shooting themselves in the foot when it comes to this anyway it goes on chapter three
00:33:55.120 describes the industry that is fueling this and chapter the afterward is a cautionary tale on a policy
00:34:02.300 prescription where i go through what's happening to leftist parties everywhere in the world and i tell
00:34:08.560 the democrats what to do if they want to get voters back i give them a policy prescription i tell them
00:34:14.240 exactly what they need to do if they want our vote amazing amazing well i hope they read it um it's
00:34:20.360 incredible uh eye-opening and would give a lot of insight to again a large demographic of of not even
00:34:26.640 just women of people uh human beings who understand what's happening the harm of it the severity of it
00:34:33.320 the trajectory of where we're going if we don't listen to people like yourself cara and so i couldn't be
00:34:38.140 more grateful for you uh keep up all the good work all the amazing things you're doing we'll be
00:34:42.700 following the scotus cases uh very closely and so thank you for filing those briefs we appreciate
00:34:47.260 you thank you so much riley thank you guys for listening to the gains for girls podcast hopefully
00:34:53.980 you now feel equipped to answer the question of where are the feminists again a very valid question
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