Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - May 29, 2026


Mail Order Abortion Pills： Why 1 in 25 Women End Up in the ER ｜ The Riley Gaines Show

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What happens when a Yale-educated lawyer, a mom of three, a wife of a U.S. senator, takes on the FDA over the abortion pill that s now used in the majority of abortions? And could those little blue pills be quietly affecting something as fundamental as our drinking water? Listen here to hear from Erin and her husband, former Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, as they discuss their journey to becoming pro-life advocates.

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00:00:19.360 What happens when a Yale-educated lawyer, a mom of three, a wife of a U.S. senator, takes on the FDA over the abortion pill that's now used in the majority of abortions?
00:00:28.120 and could those little blue pills be quietly affecting something as fundamental as our
00:00:32.800 drinking water? Listen here. Well, Erin, thank you so much for joining the Riley Gaines show.
00:00:39.960 I'm super excited to kind of get the latest update on where we are regarding the pro-life
00:00:44.500 movement. But before we get into that, I was doing some research on you. I think a lot of people know
00:00:49.920 who your husband is and maybe a little bit of background on you, but I found out a lot. I found
00:00:54.340 out that you grew up on a cattle ranch in rural new mexico you've clerked for for chief justices
00:00:59.540 i believe chief justice john roberts of course you've been before the supreme court can you
00:01:04.740 kind of give us a little background on ultimately what shaped your path to where you are now
00:01:08.760 sure so so it really is one of those things sort of an only god could do this type of story
00:01:14.160 um i grew up on a ranch in the middle of nowhere new mexico um the nearest grocery store was
00:01:18.920 literally an hour which meant we didn't get ice cream very often which was was very sad
00:01:22.560 But it was a wonderful experience. I did 4-H and FFA. As a youngster, I wanted to be a veterinarian because that's what my mom, who was an amazing person, had always wanted to be. So I learned from a very young age sort of the value of self-reliance, but even more than that value of self-reliance, the value of relying ultimately on Jesus.
00:01:44.660 And that's who is our author and perfecter. Our salvation comes from him. And he was able to take a small town girl who didn't know any lawyers. And I've had a chance to do some some wonderful things, be able to represent wonderful clients. And I will always be grateful for that.
00:02:02.420 And I've got to do that as a mom, Riley, which is super amazing.
00:02:05.620 We have three kiddos, Josh and I do.
00:02:08.640 They're 13, 11, and 5.
00:02:10.480 And to get to sort of be in the battles that our culture is facing today as a mom, as you know, is something that is just so amazing.
00:02:21.460 I'm very, very grateful to get to do it at this juncture.
00:02:24.580 Yeah, I can only imagine how being a mom has especially shaped the work that you do.
00:02:29.920 But that is one thing I want to ask you.
00:02:31.540 Timeline-wise, what did that look like?
00:02:33.960 When did you guys start having kids in relation to where you are now?
00:02:37.460 Because there are a lot of young women, young girls that listen to this who do very much
00:02:42.600 want to be a mom, but also, similar to both yourself and me, find value and purpose and
00:02:48.420 also working, especially in the fight that we've been fighting.
00:02:51.660 So timeline-wise, what did that look like from being a mom, but also doing the career
00:02:56.700 path?
00:02:58.120 Absolutely.
00:02:58.560 So I got married a little later.
00:03:00.160 I was 30 when I got married, and we had our first son, Elijah, at 32.
00:03:04.680 So all of you out there, you've got lots of time.
00:03:07.180 I had Abigail when I was 40, and to be quite frank, I would be totally open to another one, even though I'm older than 40 now.
00:03:14.180 And they're just such an amazing gift whenever God gives them to you.
00:03:18.320 So I wouldn't say wait, but I would also say that you absolutely have time.
00:03:24.580 Families look different, but they, and to be absolutely frank, growing up, I wasn't sure
00:03:32.420 I wanted a family at all.
00:03:34.440 My family was a bit of or a lot of a mess.
00:03:38.680 And so the idea of raising children was sort of horrifying.
00:03:41.420 I wanted them to have something very different than I had had.
00:03:44.940 And so it took God a long time to work on me to get me to a place where I was ready to
00:03:50.980 accept that responsibility for this young life. And he's also taught me so much through that.
00:03:57.340 I've been able to see how much he loves me as I see my children. And so it's just been an
00:04:05.720 incredible blessing. So I would encourage everyone. The Bible says that God names every family.
00:04:12.820 And so he will do this for your listeners as well.
00:04:16.540 I love that because I do feel like there's maybe even pressure you put on yourself. Maybe it's not even coming from external sources, but you put pressure on yourself to get married young and have kids young. And yes, certainly that's the dream and the desire, but it requires finding a suitable partner who can make that life for you, who can walk that path with you, especially ultimately the path that leads to the Lord.
00:04:39.140 I was talking to a young girl the other day, actually on a college campus, and she got up to the microphone and she was so nervous and she was like, you know, I feel like I've missed my time to get married and have kids.
00:04:48.780 What do you suggest I do?
00:04:50.020 And I said, well, how old are you?
00:04:51.120 She said 29.
00:04:52.440 I was like, you have not missed your time.
00:04:54.900 You have so much life ahead of you.
00:04:57.040 So I love that.
00:04:58.560 And again, your family is just precious.
00:05:02.280 I want to get to what's going on in the pro-life movement.
00:05:05.760 As I alluded to, and as many people have probably seen online or if they watch the news, you were recently before the Supreme Court.
00:05:13.440 Walk us through the FDA through reverse alliance for Hippocratic Medicine case that you argued.
00:05:20.100 What is this? What does it mean? What's really at stake here?
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00:05:53.820 Sure, so it's a hugely important case for states that want to protect life.
00:05:59.540 In the Supreme Court decision of Dobbs, the Supreme Court returned to the people, to the state, the ability to be able to protect life.
00:06:08.260 But the Biden administration really took away that ability when they approved mail order abortion drugs.
00:06:14.940 And what this means, Riley, is that a girl can get online or her spouse or partner who doesn't want a child can get online.
00:06:21.960 And in a couple of minutes with an online form, have the abortion drug sent from out of state to a dorm room, to a home for a woman or girl to take all alone.
00:06:34.660 That is extremely dangerous.
00:06:36.380 The FDA has a black box warning on the abortion drug mitzvahprastone.
00:06:41.340 It sends by its own FDA label one in 25 women to the emergency room.
00:06:48.300 And these drugs are flooding into pro-life states.
00:06:51.960 In Louisiana, which is very protective of life, there are about a thousand abortions every month from these illegal drugs coming in from New York and California. 0.99
00:07:03.180 What's kind of best case scenario when a woman takes these mail to order abortion pills? 0.97
00:07:11.740 Sure. So it really depends on the individual circumstances of her pregnancy, Riley.
00:07:16.920 So the FDA drug is only approved up until 10 weeks gestation.
00:07:23.360 But as we all know from stories online, there are two cases in Louisiana where women were about 20 weeks.
00:07:29.500 It's extremely dangerous to take the abortion drug at 20 weeks gestation.
00:07:34.380 That can put you in the hospital.
00:07:36.980 It can lead to sepsis and even death.
00:07:39.940 We hear stories every year of girls and women who have died from the abortion drug.
00:07:45.000 So that does happen.
00:07:46.920 And even in the best case scenario, even if you're fairly early on in your pregnancy,
00:07:52.320 even if you don't have something known as an ectopic pregnancy, which makes the abortion
00:07:57.440 drug very dangerous because it can mask those symptoms and you don't know you need to go
00:08:01.920 to hospital immediately, again, even best case scenario, then what you're going to experience
00:08:07.520 is labor.
00:08:08.820 The first drug, mifeprestone, stops the nutrition and the oxygen to the developing baby.
00:08:15.360 So it essentially starves that child. And then the second drug you take forces contractions. It brings you into labor. And Alliance Defending Freedom has heartbreaking stories from women who have had abortions from using these abortion drugs.
00:08:32.440 and they describe the pain they describe being in the bathroom or or one moment our client in
00:08:40.040 the Louisiana case in the garage floor as she's bleeding as she's in labor all alone and then
00:08:47.440 then some of them even talk about you know delivering that this baby and then having to
00:08:53.600 decide what to do with that child that they they never expected they thought it would just be easy
00:08:58.740 Planned Parenthood may have told them it might just be like a heavy period and then it will all go away and you can pretend this never happened.
00:09:07.360 But but for so many women who take this drug, who think it's their only option, they really come to regret it, both for their physical symptoms as well as the spiritual and psychological.
00:09:18.440 Yeah, one thing that I've learned so much over the past few years, honestly, it's probably one of the things that has opened my eyes the most to not even just the gender ideology movement or the abortion epidemic is how our language is being manipulated and how we've come up with all of these fantastic euphemisms that sound really great.
00:09:38.240 Even, again, and I mentioned the gender ideology movement because I think there's a lot of similarities in how women are at threat, children are at threat, there's a war on reality.
00:09:48.140 Of course, Planned Parenthood is behind both of these movements, but they hide behind phrases like tissue or a clump of cells or fetus, or they use the affirmation model, which sounds so great, and reproductive rights and healthcare freedom.
00:10:02.360 Like, all of these things sound so good. But what you're saying, and certainly what I believe is that women and people, Americans are being lied to, right?
00:10:13.040 That's exactly right. And, you know, they tell you, just come in, take the drug, and it will be like it never happened. But of course, that's not true. There was an unborn baby.
00:10:25.100 In worst case scenario, women will suffer complications and not have sort of medical care that they need.
00:10:34.920 And the science, Riley, it's really, I think, illuminating.
00:10:39.940 If you look at a basic biology textbook, it tells us that life begins at conception.
00:10:46.160 You know, we've got all these movements, you know, to save the turtles and to save the eggs and save the environment.
00:10:51.280 And that's all well and fine, but the biological fact is that human children are just as much alive, they're just as much human when they're tiny as when they're grown.
00:11:01.900 And of course, we don't discard someone simply because we can't see them when someone is older.
00:11:08.660 So there's this sort of mentality that you can just ignore or get rid of a child because you can't see him or her yet.
00:11:18.040 there was a law recently i believe it went into effect in january of this year in california where
00:11:24.180 it's now illegal to declaw a cat because it's deemed inhumane and they can't consent to the
00:11:30.080 declawing procedure and it just makes you scratch your head you know how in the world can you
00:11:35.820 see it so clearly here whether whether you agree or disagree again on what's happening to cats and
00:11:42.200 being declawed and the purpose behind that but not when it comes to human life or six seven eight
00:11:47.740 nine-year-old children ultimately sterilizing themselves and cutting off healthy functioning
00:11:52.800 body parts. That's not inhumane, but declawing a cat is. So there's so much hypocrisy surrounding
00:12:00.300 what is deemed to be righteous and good and virtuous and moral. Where are these drugs
00:12:06.520 manufactured? You mentioned they're being sent across states, but are they manufactured in the
00:12:10.940 U.S. or is this happening overseas? Many of them are. That's sort of the trouble with the Biden
00:12:16.820 Administration's action in 2023. What it approved was FDA approved drugs sent from two manufacturers
00:12:25.340 at that time, GenBioPro and Danco. Again, FDA approved, sent without any health sort of guidance
00:12:33.780 to young women to take all alone. And that's just heartbreaking for so many reasons. And
00:12:42.420 And the idea that this is sort of what we want, that it's sort of abortion access at all costs, really belies the fact that this is about health care at all.
00:12:52.780 It's simply about abortion access.
00:12:55.240 The goal was to make sure abortion was available everywhere.
00:12:58.240 And the Biden administration didn't care that the data it relied on in taking away that that in-person visit, that protection for women, show that there would be more hospitalizations.
00:13:08.240 there would be more women harmed if these were sent through the mail. And again, they didn't
00:13:13.300 care. They wanted access. Um, so there could be more abortions. Yeah. You know, the, the motto of
00:13:19.260 safe, legal and rare has certainly changed. Uh, I saw it online the other day. I forget who it is.
00:13:24.820 He's a member of Congress. He's a Democrat. He's the one with like the microbladed eyebrows. He
00:13:29.300 like hardly speaks English. I'll, we'll put a picture of him on screen, uh, for those who are,
00:13:33.920 listening. But he tweeted the other day, it wasn't safe, legal, and rare. He said safe,
00:13:39.480 legal, and accessible. They don't really care if it's safe. They don't really care if it's legal.
00:13:44.320 And they made it very clear. They don't want it to be rare anymore. They want it to be accessible
00:13:49.860 for it to be prevalent. It's a pretty terrifying thought. What about in terms of doctors? Have you
00:13:58.480 seen any cases of healthcare professionals who don't want to be affiliated with these medical
00:14:05.420 abortions? And have there been any recourse for them? And I guess, what do these protections look
00:14:10.820 like for doctors who don't want to facilitate an abortion? Absolutely. So there's actually a very
00:14:18.180 small percentage of OBGYNs that actually perform abortions. And that makes a lot of sense. Most of 0.98
00:14:24.200 these doctors went into the field precisely so that they could help a woman and a child.
00:14:29.080 They see themselves as having two patients, both the mother and the baby, and they'll do everything
00:14:34.120 they can to take care of both of those patients. So after the first version of this case, the Biden
00:14:40.360 administration actually reversed course and said, oh, wait a minute. You know, there's nothing to
00:14:45.220 see here because pro-life doctors have robust conscience protections. That was their way of
00:14:51.180 sort of getting out of the administrative, dangerous situation they created for women 1.00
00:14:57.040 in 2023. 1.00
00:14:58.920 So doctors do have conscience protections.
00:15:02.600 The problem is, though, Riley, that when you have a woman who's hemorrhaging, she might
00:15:07.800 be on the operating table, and a pro-life doctor is going to take care of her, regardless
00:15:12.800 of the reason for why she's in that situation. 1.00
00:15:16.260 But it may have been because she took the abortion drug.
00:15:19.380 And so you get in these situations where doctors feel like they're facilitating abortions and have their hands tied.
00:15:26.340 Again, no doctor should be forced to do an abortion against their conscience.
00:15:30.660 But the nature of these sorts of complications mean that doctors are sort of called upon to clean up the administration's mess in putting these women in harm's way.
00:15:43.900 So what's the latest now, I guess?
00:15:47.480 Are we waiting for some some rulings from the Supreme Court?
00:15:52.320 Sure. So we're back before the Fifth Circuit.
00:15:55.120 So every time a judge has looked at this case on the merits, they have found that the Biden administration taking away that protection for women, that that was unlawful, that it was unrational, unreason to do so because the data suggested there would be more harm to women.
00:16:12.800 But the catch is, you know, who was able to bring that sort of lawsuit?
00:16:18.380 Again, as I mentioned, this is sort of the second iteration of this case.
00:16:22.240 And the first time around, the Biden administration said that no one could bring this case, that
00:16:27.220 a woman who was harmed couldn't do it because the United States has sovereign immunity.
00:16:31.500 The doctors couldn't do it because they have pro-life protections.
00:16:35.200 And interestingly, one of the plaintiffs in this case is actually a young woman named
00:16:40.840 Rosalie Markovitz.
00:16:41.820 and something that's lost in this idea that we just want women to have reproductive freedom 0.72
00:16:47.000 is first that many women don't choose abortion. They think it's the only option. And if they had
00:16:52.320 more help, they would choose differently. And second, sometimes women don't choose at all. 1.00
00:16:57.300 That was the case for Rosalie. Her then boyfriend ordered drugs online and coerced her into taking 1.00
00:17:03.660 them. It killed the child she very much wanted. And so now she and Louisiana are suing the FDA
00:17:10.760 And Louisiana sort of has the receipts, as folks like to say. It has shown that it has paid out Medicaid dollars for abortion drug complications when women come into a hospital needing care.
00:17:24.860 So the question now before that Fifth Circuit is, one, do this, does Louisiana have standing? And two, was the Biden administration's action unlawful?
00:17:37.320 We think both of those things are very much yes.
00:17:42.580 The Fifth Circuit found that before.
00:17:44.380 And you mentioned the Supreme Court, Riley.
00:17:45.800 So it went up to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court said, we're going to let the status quo remain in effect. 0.92
00:17:51.660 We're going to allow these male-order abortions for the time being.
00:17:54.920 But now we're back at the Fifth Circuit and we'll get to sort of relitigate that again and then probably head back up to the Supreme Court again.
00:18:05.080 Is there pretty grave concern for pro-lifers if a Democrat is to be back in the Oval Office in
00:18:11.780 2028? You know, I think there is, Riley. And you mentioned sort of just the lies and how this
00:18:18.080 overlaps with gender ideology. And I think that's exactly right. There was an episode of Bill Maher's 0.99
00:18:26.480 show that I'd listened to a while back, but he was debating abortion with women. I think she was
00:18:31.000 actually somewhat pro-choice but just not at later stages of pregnancy. But Bill Maher said
00:18:37.460 something. He said, you know, life just isn't that precious. And I think that is the lie that we are
00:18:44.600 fighting against. This idea that every child is not created in the very image of God. Abigail,
00:18:52.060 just a second she is in the car yes you know go look i saw the check go check again i promise
00:19:01.660 look in the back that is like ultimate mom mode right there and it's so funny like mom where is
00:19:14.860 this moms have like a uncanny ability to find anything and everything it could be like the
00:19:20.860 ketchup bottle in the fridge. My husband can't find it. I'm like, Louie, it's right there. It's 1.00
00:19:25.320 right there. Moms have this amazing ability to do just that. Yeah. So hopefully she will find 1.00
00:19:32.880 her Polly Pocket. But yes, this idea, Riley, that the life is not valuable. And I think that's what
00:19:42.040 we see the Democratic Party promoting, this idea that you should shout your abortions or that they
00:19:47.920 shouldn't be rare, rather than providing women with real help, with real encouragement, with
00:19:53.920 resources, so that they can parent and have their baby and beyond. Now, there's been ongoing
00:20:00.500 discussion about what's happening in our drinking water. Whether it's the pills that started really
00:20:08.400 the process or the human remains that were flushed down the toilet, there's concern that
00:20:13.240 humans are ingesting these things. What's the latest here? Do you have any insight? The most
00:20:20.700 that I've learned on this is from, from amazing people like Kristen Hawkins. I've seen Isabel
00:20:24.340 Brown talk about this. I saw EPA Lee Zeldin actually talk about this. So, so what's kind
00:20:30.400 of the latest here? Yeah. So it's sort of horrifying when you think about it, that the
00:20:35.100 abortion drug is being used so prevalently in America that it's actually in our drinking water
00:20:41.140 in pretty high doses. And, you know, that leads to questions is, you know, why do we have fertility
00:20:47.700 problems in America? Maybe that has something to do with this. There's also, you know, as you
00:20:54.100 mentioned, the California law that prevents declawing, there's all these environmental laws
00:20:59.800 that require studies to be done when you have any agency action that impacts a potential
00:21:06.600 endangered species. Well, there's a good chance that all of these drugs in the water are doing
00:21:11.940 that to various species, various aquatic species as well. So you have this situation where the FDA
00:21:19.360 has approved a drug that is being used in such a sort of pervasive way in America today, that it's
00:21:27.100 in concentrated amounts in our drinking water, which is, I have a colleague actually, who after
00:21:31.700 he heard about this um he he won't drink he refuses to drink out of out of any um sort of
00:21:38.000 water coming city water which makes a lot of sense when you think about those sorts of things
00:21:42.640 um and then you think about the amount of portions that happen every single year you know it's it's
00:21:49.060 not a a small number no no and then then when you think you mentioned human remains riley but it's
00:21:56.180 It's sort of heartbreaking to think about one of the women that ADF has represented.
00:22:02.540 Her name is Elizabeth Gillette.
00:22:04.680 And she talks about using the abortion drug and then having to make the choice when she saw this baby in her hands, whether to throw it away or flush it down the toilet. 0.68
00:22:16.400 And that's not a choice any mom should ever have to make.
00:22:22.240 And it's, again, like life is valuable.
00:22:25.780 It is beautiful. And what women like Elizabeth and so many of them want, surveys show that the vast majority of women that have abortions do so because they feel like there's no other option. And they say that if they would have had more support, either financially or emotionally and socially, that they would have changed their minds and chosen to parent or have that child. And that's what offers women real choice, not freely accessible abortion drugs.
00:22:51.900 Yeah, again, these women are promised that they'll get their independence back, they'll get their life back, they'll be able to go out and have fun and get drinks with their friends, but instead they're left with regret and heartbreak and shame and guilt, which are horrible feelings, and of course the Bible tells us that all of those things do not come from the Lord.
00:23:12.080 For any listeners who are concerned about these topics, what are some practical steps or maybe principles that should guide their advocacy, whether it's legal or cultural or, I guess, in their own communities?
00:23:28.240 Sure. So I'd encourage you just to get invested. Volunteer at a local pregnancy care center.
00:23:33.940 These individuals are making real change in real lives.
00:23:37.080 lives. I'd also encourage folks to start to be aware of surrogacy agreements. We are seeing more
00:23:44.300 of these and the terms of those agreements are just horrifying. NPR has a sample agreement up
00:23:51.680 online and it allows the intended parents to do things like force the woman to repay all of the
00:24:00.360 costs from in vitro fertilization, all the surrogacy arrangements. If she refuses to have
00:24:07.040 an abortion for any reason that the parents might choose. So all of these sorts of issues are
00:24:13.680 cropping up and they all stem, as you said, from this same idea that every woman and child
00:24:18.940 is not created in the very image of God and worthy of protection, whether it's a seven or
00:24:25.220 eight-year-old girl that's being told she's a boy or a baby girl in her mother's womb.
00:24:30.520 All of them deserve protection and advocate, advocate for them, advocate for the value of life
00:24:37.120 Live with joy.
00:24:38.620 God has given us.
00:24:39.500 And I was reading this morning in John 17, and it says, this is Jesus, he's talking to
00:24:44.940 his disciples.
00:24:46.500 And he says, you know, he's going away, he's going back to the Father, and his disciples
00:24:50.120 are distraught, as I would have been.
00:24:52.700 But he says, you know, don't worry, I'm going to send the advocate for you, the Holy Spirit
00:24:57.580 to you.
00:24:58.180 And he says, while you will have trouble, do not be disheartened, for I have overcome
00:25:02.920 the world.
00:25:03.740 And so we have these amazing promises. We are not alone as we advocate. We have God the Father to help us through the Holy Spirit. And we also have his promise that though there are bad things in the world, he has won the victory, not only in the far away heaven sense, but also in the real world today.
00:25:24.760 So take heart and do something. Do something. Volunteer at your pregnancy care center. Advocate for life. Tell people that life matters.
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00:26:28.760 that they don't base everything on your credit score. So if this is something weighing on you,
00:26:33.720 it doesn't have to be forever. Go to yrefy.com. That is Y-R-E-F-Y.com and tell them that Riley
00:26:38.960 from the Riley Gaines Show sent you. It's got to be hard with obviously having three kids and your
00:26:46.300 husband who is in Washington, D.C. What's that balance like? I mean, it's got to be difficult.
00:26:53.360 Do you find yourself in D.C. often?
00:26:56.200 I would imagine yes.
00:26:57.860 Yes.
00:26:58.120 Yeah.
00:26:58.260 We split our time between Missouri, where it's home, and D.C.
00:27:01.800 And I have to say, Missouri is great because the kids get to run over to grandma and grandpa's and it's space and wonderful people.
00:27:10.000 But God has also provided when we were in D.C.
00:27:12.820 We found people, lovely church community in both places that really anchors and grounds us.
00:27:19.020 And I have to say, I'm so thankful for my husband in so many ways.
00:27:23.840 But one of them is that when we're in D.C., he says no to so many invitations, many of which I have no idea about.
00:27:31.280 But the reason he does that is not because he doesn't want to go and speak to X or Y group or meet X or Y person.
00:27:37.400 He's an amazing speaker.
00:27:39.140 He's very outgoing, enjoys people.
00:27:41.960 But he does it so he can come home and have dinner with his kids.
00:27:45.240 And that is something constant that he has invested in his children.
00:27:50.600 And I'm so thankful for that.
00:27:52.120 So we try to be as normal as possible.
00:27:54.580 Sometimes we get to be a little boring on the weekends.
00:27:56.960 We go to soccer games and those sorts of things with matches.
00:28:00.680 And I'm so grateful for that because that was my main fear sort of going into this sort of life is what does it look like for our kids?
00:28:08.160 And God has really been gracious in protecting and providing for them.
00:28:13.360 Well, I'll tell you, boring is the best.
00:28:15.520 I look forward to boring.
00:28:17.180 So I know you guys probably do, too.
00:28:19.300 Thank you, Erin, for coming on the show, giving us the update of where things stand, and for your advocacy and for your work.
00:28:27.280 We'll certainly be following and amplifying.
00:28:29.880 Where can people follow you and the work that you're doing?
00:28:33.400 Sure.
00:28:33.680 At Alliance Defending Freedom, we'll have updates on the cases that are going on.
00:28:39.080 I write for World as well, so you can get updates there on what's going on in the life space.
00:28:44.700 But yeah, would very much covet your prayers and just would encourage you all.
00:28:49.300 Yeah, ADF has been fantastic.
00:28:51.940 They were really the first ones to bring a lawsuit forward
00:28:55.120 surrounding the men and women's sports stuff.
00:28:58.260 So, yes, highly recommend checking out Alliance Defending Freedom,
00:29:02.060 some of their cases across the board, whether it's free speech,
00:29:05.380 pertaining to religion, obviously life.
00:29:08.100 Really fantastic warriors.
00:29:09.600 So thank you again, Erin.
00:29:11.460 Thanks so much, Riley.
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