Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - October 16, 2024


Navigating The Biden⧸Harris Title IX Era


Episode Stats

Length

30 minutes

Words per Minute

180.15887

Word Count

5,534

Sentence Count

11

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

On today's episode of the Gains For Girls Podcast, we are joined by Kimberly Herman, Executive Director of the Southeast Regional Legal Foundation, a pro bono organization dedicated to defending the rights of Americans on Title IX.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 hello everybody welcome back to the gains for girls podcast uh as always thank you for tuning
00:00:12.400 in thank you for listening uh be sure to check us out at outkick.com anywhere where you get
00:00:17.520 your podcasts but at outkick.com you can follow all things gains for girls and make sure you never
00:00:22.720 miss an episode uh on today's episode we are talking to kim herman uh she is the executive
00:00:29.800 director at southeastern legal foundation uh and we have partnered and when i say we i mean the
00:00:36.360 riley gains center at the leadership institute this is my center that was developed about a year ago
00:00:41.780 that has done pivotal work and engaging and mobilizing and training up young conservative
00:00:49.660 leaders uh really important stuff that that we're doing over at the rally gain center you can check
00:00:54.840 that out at rally gain center.org but we have partnered with southeastern legal to create a
00:01:00.820 title nine training uh i had people approaching me all the time you know i think i know what title
00:01:07.600 nine is i i know it allows for girls to be able to compete equally in sports um but that's that's
00:01:14.680 kind of my extent on you know my extent of the knowledge i have on this issue and so i was
00:01:20.040 thinking you know how can we broaden the amount of people who understand the severity of what we are
00:01:27.460 seeing pushed by the biden harris administration and the democratic party uh and so we like i said
00:01:34.040 partnered with them this training is it is up it is live you can check it out at the rally gains
00:01:38.520 center.org it is incredibly comprehensive uh it goes into all things title nine and the harm that's
00:01:46.160 being done that has effectively already been done uh it talks about the free speech implications it
00:01:52.240 talks about due process which which adversely affects men in a topic that we tend to forget to talk about
00:01:58.380 it talks about um of course what's happening in sports but also in academics how women are losing out
00:02:05.600 on academic scholarships it talks about what's going on in bathrooms and locker rooms and changing
00:02:10.500 spaces and dorm rooms and sororities all these places where people uh forget to to think about when
00:02:17.820 thinking about title nine uh so again check out the training take the training uh it's not super long
00:02:25.580 but again it's it's very important share the training uh and be sure to share this episode uh with
00:02:31.260 kimberly herman well kim thank you so much for joining the gains for girls podcast uh super excited
00:02:38.460 to talk with you about all things title nine uh we have had several people on this show i mean my whole
00:02:44.480 platform really is built around uh protecting women's sports really i mean protecting women protecting
00:02:51.480 common sense insanity uh but we've had attorney generals on to talk about it we have had
00:02:56.860 um other legal representatives but but again this is really important and i think these are things
00:03:02.780 that everyday people everyday moms everyday dads this is what they need to hear this is what they
00:03:09.120 need to understand the progressive policies that are being put in place by the people in the white
00:03:14.840 house now and uh if uh the same ticket or a harris waltz ticket were to win in november uh certainly
00:03:22.980 what they could continue to expect and so uh very briefly i mean would you just introduce yourself
00:03:28.380 who you are uh what you do uh so everyone can can have a little background on you yeah absolutely
00:03:35.100 and i couldn't agree more i mean so first and foremost i'm a parent um i've got a seven-year-old
00:03:40.440 girl and a 10-year-old boy both of them uh play sports my daughter actually used to play baseball
00:03:46.420 over with the boys before she could even start playing softball right before she even aged into that
00:03:51.140 program and so um big into athletics and i know that as she grows up she's gonna look at uh really
00:03:57.740 up to figures like you who are out there championing for their rights and so first and foremost like
00:04:02.120 i said i'm a parent um i'm also executive director here at southeastern legal foundation
00:04:06.600 we are the country's um oldest conservative public interest law firm that is a lot to say but at the
00:04:13.280 end of the day we are a pro bono organization and we see the government when it violates the rights
00:04:18.960 of americans so specifically constitutional issues right now we have lawsuits against the
00:04:24.180 department of education challenging this title nine rewrite that i know we're going to talk about
00:04:28.060 today we have a lawsuit where we actually represent leadership institute because universities want to
00:04:34.180 charge crazy fees for you to come and speak and so um we operate in the courtroom and we also operate
00:04:40.380 in the court of public opinion putting out a lot of education on these topics no that's great and
00:04:45.960 i think that's a good segue into understanding title nine and and the free speech implications
00:04:51.400 uh you mentioned which my viewers don't really know this because i don't think this is something
00:04:55.820 that i've talked about but um it's a big push of mine of course us at the rightly gain center at
00:05:02.280 the leadership institute to get on these college campuses mobilize and engage the youth uh my demographic
00:05:09.320 you know people who who are in college who who are really desperate for the truth uh so that's what
00:05:16.540 we've done i think last year i was on 45 different college campuses ranging from harvard princeton cal
00:05:23.300 berkeley i mean you know very much one extreme and everything in between two you know smaller private
00:05:29.080 christian schools uh so definitely putting ourselves into the belly of the beast a lot of people are
00:05:34.560 familiar with uh the san francisco state university incident but what a lot of people probably don't
00:05:40.320 know we get on these college campuses one campus in particular university of new mexico where i was
00:05:47.940 charged a ridiculous amount as a security fee uh for police to be present at the event because they
00:05:55.820 had heard of protests different things going on uh they said they needed to be there but they had to
00:06:00.820 charge me and the leadership institute ten thousand dollars to show up uh of course this was
00:06:06.840 inconsistent with what they have charged other speakers specifically speakers who speak on
00:06:13.280 a more so socially liberal topics uh so you you guys at southeastern legal um helped us push back
00:06:23.440 we sued you and m can you talk about this lawsuit very briefly uh kind of the just the meat and
00:06:29.480 potatoes of it and what the result of this lawsuit was yeah so are the lawsuits still ongoing as you
00:06:36.300 know um but at the end of the day schools can't discriminate on the basis of viewpoint right our
00:06:43.360 first amendment protects our right to speak and what they were doing here with respect to you
00:06:47.760 and leadership institute was blatant viewpoint discrimination uh the schools were allowing
00:06:53.420 drag queens they had a huge event where they had drag queens from i think rupaul's show
00:06:59.360 or something like that come onto campus and do a drag show no security fees were assessed and then
00:07:05.240 when you want to come on and speak about title nine and speak about our rights and speak about why we
00:07:11.120 need to fight back and raise awareness to this like you said they wanted to charge ten thousand dollars
00:07:15.360 to have i forget if it was over 20 or 30 police officers including an entire arresting unit um there
00:07:22.540 which is absurd and so we were able to get them down but it was still an egregious amount that
00:07:28.220 they charged and so anyway we filed a lawsuit this is happening across the country it's not new but
00:07:33.300 it's something that we have to continue to fight back against because they want to silence our voices
00:07:37.500 they don't want us talking about free speech they don't want us talking about title nine on campuses
00:07:42.540 like that's just the end result of it right yeah and it's important to note that's definitely not
00:07:49.040 exclusive this treatment uh to just me uh ask any conservative speaker ask charlie kirk of course over
00:07:56.120 at at turning point uh what he has faced on college campuses very similar very similar situation but is this
00:08:03.580 something in terms of the the stifling of speech is this something that we can expect given the new
00:08:11.720 biden harris administration rewrite what what are kind of the changes to title nine uh what what do
00:08:19.220 these implications look like in the real world yeah so the implications uh truly cannot be understated
00:08:25.300 so just to kind of for anyone listening obviously i'm sure they know what title nine is if they're
00:08:30.500 following your podcast but if they don't title nine is a federal law that we've had in place for over
00:08:34.960 50 years that prohibits discrimination on the basis of sex so it just ensures that all educational
00:08:40.740 opportunities whether it's athletics extracurriculars admissions is available to women and girls and
00:08:47.520 what we have now is we have the biden harris administration coming in and trying to change the
00:08:52.620 definition of sex sex under their definition now means uh gender identity means sex stereotypes
00:09:00.040 it means sex characteristics they're changing the standard that you have to that would be applied to
00:09:05.900 establish a violation of title nine to a subjective standard so now it's if anyone feels like they
00:09:13.300 were subjectively offended um then they can file a title nine complaint what this is going to do is
00:09:18.860 it's going to chill speech it's going to force everyone to self-censor girls are going to be terrified
00:09:23.420 to speak up about having to change or go to the restroom in front of boys they're going to be terrified to
00:09:29.420 speak up about having to sleep uh in overnight sleeping accommodations whether it be in a dorm or
00:09:34.580 on a um field trip or something like that and so they're going to be forced to self-censor and the
00:09:40.800 courts are finding this right it's not just us out here saying this there have been four or five courts
00:09:46.120 throughout this country that have already looked at this and said yes this violates the first amendment
00:09:50.180 wow wow yeah that's um important for people to realize uh what about you know you mentioned kind
00:09:59.160 of this locker room scenario uh that's something that that is allowed uh that is something that that
00:10:06.200 really is seemingly celebrated i will say in terms of how administrate administrations and and you know
00:10:12.680 at the institutional level how they treat this topic and so is that something that this new rewrite
00:10:18.420 would allow for bathrooms locker rooms yeah changing spaces it won't just only allow it it will work
00:10:25.580 it will require it um so in the 1970s when congress passed title nine they made sure that uh sex
00:10:35.020 separate spaces so our bathrooms our locker rooms everything that we just mentioned that that's
00:10:39.860 preserved so if a school has a boy's locker room and a girl's locker room that would not be a violation
00:10:45.580 of title nine putting their federal funding subject to risk because they know that they have to protect
00:10:50.380 physical safety they have to protect our dignity and the dignity of our girls and our boys right my son
00:10:56.020 doesn't want to be changing in a locker room with girls any more than my daughter wants to be changing
00:10:59.720 in a locker room with boys and so the new rewrite actually prohibits these sex separate spaces
00:11:05.880 and it also prohibits schools from asking for any evidence of say gender dysphoria
00:11:11.380 and so an example i use a lot is say you have a 14 year old daughter who has to dress out for pe
00:11:17.960 she goes into the locker room to change and a boy comes in she simply says please don't change in
00:11:24.520 front of me or i'm going to go change over there anything to show her discomfort he then can file a
00:11:30.940 title nine complaint against her because the standard is subjective and she's commented on you know say his
00:11:36.460 physical characteristics or his gender identity and a school now has to punish her so he has completely
00:11:43.440 turned title nine on its head that girl should be protected right she should be able to file that sexual
00:11:48.740 harassment claim against the boy and now he can take action against her um so not only has it changed the
00:11:55.580 definition of sex but it has completely undermined the intent and it truly is putting our girls at
00:12:01.340 a physical danger risk of what's going to happen here i wish every single person could hear your
00:12:08.160 response hear your answer because i mean she's being punished for calling a spade a spade uh it's
00:12:15.680 very orwellian uh when when you lay it out like that and when you understand it to be uh what they in now
00:12:23.880 intend and what it effectively is and you mentioned men i think this is really interesting uh because
00:12:29.800 you know we talk a lot about girls and women specifically in sports or or in bathrooms or
00:12:36.300 locker rooms but men are affected affected too and so specifically this new rewrite uh outside of the
00:12:45.300 locker room kind of situation how else are men affected uh adversely by by the new title nine
00:12:51.880 well i mean their speech is silence too so you can imagine a kid in class whether they're or you know
00:12:58.080 a young adult in class in college and they simply say that they believe in the biological reality
00:13:04.580 that there are two sexes right there isn't there are men and there are women and they don't believe
00:13:10.340 that there is a concept of gender identity that could be a violation of title nine and so again
00:13:16.420 they could be punished for simply saying that we really don't know where that bar is and you know
00:13:22.840 when people come back on the other side and say well it's not going to go that far
00:13:26.440 i'll tell you that in open court when the judge in our case specifically asked the department of
00:13:32.960 justice attorney can that situation happen right so will a boy be punished if they say that they
00:13:39.060 don't believe in gender identity will a girl be punished if she says that she believes in the
00:13:43.940 biological reality of sex the department of justice attorney couldn't answer well so the judge there said
00:13:50.540 well if they can't even tell us then everyone's going to be forced to self-censor
00:13:54.240 um and so again that's why we've been able to stop these changes from going into effect in all 50
00:13:59.940 states of our clients young americas foundation and moms for liberty have members across the country
00:14:04.960 and we've been able to stop this role in every school where there's a member of those organizations
00:14:10.440 that's huge uh and definitely an incentive for
00:14:14.820 moms to get involved with groups like moms for liberty
00:14:18.660 uh what about the due process side of of this new rewrite again i think a way that that adversely
00:14:27.020 affects boys and men um i mean i can think of plenty of of stories that have uh garnered national
00:14:36.420 attention over the past few years of women who have accused men of some sort of sexual crime on a
00:14:43.220 college campus uh the the men have been convicted only to to find out later that they were wrongly
00:14:49.680 convicted and that these women were uh attempting to i don't know if it if it's money if it's if
00:14:56.080 it's attention whatever it is but this new title nine rewrite it impacts men in in that way too doesn't
00:15:02.720 it oh absolutely i'm glad that you brought that up um you know our constitution requires that
00:15:09.460 everyone get due process of the law so basic things right um access to an attorney uh the right to
00:15:16.080 know what claims are being brought against you the right to actually look at the evidence that
00:15:20.660 somebody brings against you whether you're talking in a criminal situation or with a sexual harassment
00:15:25.320 complaint during the trump administration the department of education took all of these due process
00:15:31.000 requirements that are constitution mandates and they actually made a rule about them for the very
00:15:37.160 first time in the history of title nine everyone knew what rights they had if a title nine complaint
00:15:43.080 was filed against them and if you were sexually harassed you knew what you had to establish to
00:15:49.080 actually get some relief well the biden harris administration has gotten rid of all of that we
00:15:55.060 have gone back to the kangaroo courts of the obama administration so sometimes a a boy you could have an
00:16:01.600 18 year old kid um right i say a kid showing my age here but an 18 year old kid in college
00:16:07.320 that actually goes to a fraternity party and a week later um he gets slapped with a sexual harassment
00:16:14.500 complaint he doesn't actually get a copy of the complaint he doesn't even know it's profiled against
00:16:18.080 him he doesn't have an opportunity to defend himself he doesn't have an opportunity to see the
00:16:22.460 evidence he doesn't know until he gets an email saying that he is suspended or expelled from school
00:16:26.980 this happened during the obama administration and it's going to happen again during the biden harris
00:16:32.020 um rewrite if we don't stop it across this country so so during the trump administration uh was this
00:16:39.480 was this a piece of title nine that had been uh i guess affected for for the better and it didn't
00:16:46.520 an insured due process absolutely um so after seeing a lot of the stories that you were mentioning
00:16:52.380 the department of education knew that they had to do something um during the obama years what we saw
00:16:58.040 from the department of education was the creation of these kangaroo courts right where um i the number
00:17:05.000 of sexual harassment complaints being filed was skyrocketing because of whether it be fame or
00:17:10.180 attention right it doesn't mean that some of these weren't incredibly valid and that these girls rights
00:17:14.400 need to be defended and that they needed relief but we also saw that we never really knew
00:17:19.580 because nobody was actually going through a proper process where due process was allowed for both
00:17:25.580 parties and so uh when betsy devos became the department of education the secretary of department
00:17:30.940 of education they immediately went to work changing the actual regulations and making sure that these due
00:17:37.920 process requirements were going to be codified and permanent never expecting that they would ever be
00:17:45.280 controversial right because who doesn't want somebody to be properly defended that's just a basic right
00:17:50.980 um and somehow it became incredibly controversial and they've gotten rid of it now um so this i'll be
00:17:59.100 honest this november uh what happens through this election is going to have a huge impact on our college
00:18:06.060 campuses and on due process rights for our boys and men throughout this country
00:18:10.280 the phrase of of you know any educational program that receives federal funding uh i mean to me that
00:18:21.520 seems i mean i i can think of other entities other than universities and and public schools that
00:18:28.080 receive federal funding and so i guess what else does title nine apply to does it apply to somewhere like
00:18:35.000 a ymca for example so it potentially could right if those programs are educational opportunities and
00:18:41.880 it just depends on how it's funded one area that it absolutely affects and an agency no one would ever
00:18:47.540 think is the usda right people when we say this people are like wait the usda how is it that they
00:18:53.620 have to file like follow title nine and how is it that they now need to redefine sex to be gender identity
00:18:59.060 well in our k-12 programs lunch programs go through the usda and there's also a number of
00:19:06.260 those situations at college across all of our federal agencies we see grants that are made to our colleges
00:19:12.500 and universities this is going to impact all of those grants and so any money that you're really
00:19:17.700 seeing flow onto our college campuses any agencies that that money flows through are going to have to
00:19:24.160 also de facto change the definition of sex to mean gender identity and and this is not by mistake
00:19:30.080 um it was either on day one or day two of president biden's uh administration he issued an executive order
00:19:36.280 where he told all of the federal agencies to go and get to work changing the definition of sex
00:19:43.660 to now mean gender identity and sexual orientation and so he as president unilaterally changed the
00:19:51.100 definition in all of our statutes and all of our regulations by just telling them to go get to work
00:19:58.180 and they all got the assignment unfortunately so this wasn't done through congress this wasn't done
00:20:04.140 through any of the necessary executive means to to ensure i have to imagine you know of course i'm someone
00:20:12.320 with with no legal background per se i have lived experience on my side and and that certainly has helped
00:20:19.440 me understand the harmful effects of this but but with no legal uh background to me this seems as if
00:20:27.500 uh i mean this this i would imagine is a large part in why we've seen now 26 states uh push back suing
00:20:35.320 the department of education uh for how this rewrite was was produced really i mean you said it yourself i mean
00:20:42.320 this this wasn't done constitutionally or legally even it seems it absolutely wasn't right and so
00:20:50.140 kind of we have to go back to what are our three branches of government which unfortunately too
00:20:54.240 many people don't even learn in school these days i would say uh i'm getting to teach a high school
00:21:03.020 course next week uh my government teacher from high school in the 90s now teaches at my kids school and
00:21:08.920 he asked me to come in and teach on the constitution next week so i'm super excited and we're going to
00:21:13.000 be talking about title nine but i'm going to make sure they know the three branches of government but
00:21:16.980 um you know congress is the entity that passes laws especially here they passed title nine there was
00:21:24.300 no question about what the definition of sex meant they pass our other laws we now have a fourth branch
00:21:29.460 of government that has been created by the executive branch right are all of these federal agencies
00:21:35.280 that just have so much red tape and that create the swamp um that we need to to be gone quite frankly
00:21:41.920 um but yes congress is the one who should be passing these laws and instead we have a president right
00:21:49.120 now who came in and tried to do this by executive order and the agencies went through it and that's
00:21:55.320 why we have to sue right litigation is always the last um the last thing that we should be doing
00:22:01.020 i always say that right but we have the federal courts for a reason we have when we have to go to
00:22:06.340 them we're glad that they're there because then they can hold all these branches of government
00:22:11.060 accountable do you think legislation is necessary that i mean codifies these words words that
00:22:18.020 that we've never struggled to understand words like sex itself or words like even woman we've seen
00:22:25.280 now i believe it's nine states uh that have passed a bill that does just this and i know at the federal
00:22:32.200 level it's uh i believe they call it the women's bill of rights but i i think it's been undertaken by
00:22:36.820 representative debbie lesko and diana harshberger um i mean is this legislation that would it's crazy
00:22:44.220 that we even that i have to say is necessary but i mean i think this could be a good thing for
00:22:50.000 clarity for transparency purposes yeah i mean it a hundred percent can't hurt right they can come
00:22:56.020 back in and say this is what we meant and this is what the definition is hey agency this isn't an
00:23:01.400 ambiguous term you're not here to fill the gaps there is no gap about what a woman is there is no
00:23:07.500 gap about what sex means uh it means a man or a woman um know whether or not they can get that passed
00:23:13.920 well that you know that's beyond my pay grade here um but you know whenever our legislatures can come
00:23:20.720 in and further define these terms then it can only help when we have to litigate um of course you run
00:23:27.880 the risk in blue states of them making the definition something absolutely absurd but at the end of the
00:23:33.580 day that is why we have the federalism system that is why we have 50 states and we have seen a heck of a
00:23:39.280 lot of people um making you know their views known just by moving and so you know i i at the end of
00:23:47.400 the day we all know what women means we all know what men means um but to have that further defined by
00:23:53.040 congress it takes that even ability away from the the agencies then that's right yeah we all know what a
00:24:00.620 woman is but it's time our laws do i guess yeah uh that's been just i mean foundational really in
00:24:09.080 uh spreading awareness of the issue how to talk about it uh why it's important uh you guys partnered
00:24:18.520 with the leadership institute the riley gain center at the leadership institute and created a title nine
00:24:24.740 training uh i was able to after this training had been drafted and created i was able to take the
00:24:31.320 training to learn from the training uh the graphics the videos the the guides that are put out are are
00:24:38.540 really just amazing i learned so much i i considered myself somewhat of an again not from the legal
00:24:44.540 perspective but somewhat of an expert on title nine what it did what it meant for me as an athlete but
00:24:50.200 gosh i learned so so much and so can you just take a minute and explain uh the training and what
00:24:57.560 people can can expect from it how to access it yeah this was a fun training to do because i think that
00:25:03.320 for people to understand title nine they have to first understand um like where you're coming from
00:25:08.020 right and your lived experience that they actually understand that this is such an important issue and so
00:25:13.200 of course we start the training with your story and you being able to tell everyone you know that
00:25:18.820 watches it um how this has impacted you and then you know we just do our best to walk anyone that's
00:25:24.980 going to take it through what title nine is the history of it because if you're going to try to
00:25:29.460 understand how a law impacts you and how these changes uh violate your constitutional rights you have
00:25:36.080 to kind of understand where we've been and you have to start with the text and so we walk everyone
00:25:40.580 through that and we walk through the due process implications that we've talked about here the first
00:25:45.640 amendment implications that we've talked about here and try to give everyone an idea of where they can
00:25:51.340 go on their college campus to actually get more information so how can you learn about what your
00:25:57.180 school's policies are on title nine how can you advocate that your school maintain um a reality
00:26:04.980 definition of sex um how can you then also protect yourself if you're in a situation where you're in a
00:26:11.980 locker room and a male comes in and you want to tell them that they can't be there because you
00:26:17.060 don't want to have to undress in front of them or see them undress in front of you so we just try to
00:26:21.200 give everyone some real life experience um or use real life experiences to kind of really train them up
00:26:28.080 on their legal rights and then empower them to go out there and advocate and spread the word and
00:26:33.000 we're coming out with a guidebook that comes uh with this training also that that's available on the
00:26:38.520 website and that's something that we just hope that people give to everyone else right send that out
00:26:44.640 to somebody who's never heard about title nine and get them up to speed on it also absolutely uh i
00:26:50.060 implore uh school board members i implore moms and dads i mean the training is even suitable for
00:26:58.320 uh those young high school female athletes who uh might not understand the issue know it's wrong know
00:27:05.820 what's unfair and unsafe uh the issue specifically of men competing in women's sports um but want to
00:27:11.880 know what they can do about it this the training is suitable for for you too uh you can find it at
00:27:16.780 rileygaincenter.org again rileygaincenter.org i encourage everyone to go check it out uh not just to see the
00:27:24.160 training but uh we mentioned getting on college campuses uh that is something that is certainly
00:27:28.820 continuing uh through the rest of this semester uh i believe i will be on 17 different college
00:27:35.440 campuses over the next 40 45 days uh so everyone can check that out see if if me or some of the
00:27:42.740 rileygaincenter ambassadors are coming to a campus near you uh please go check that out again rileygaincenter.org
00:27:49.340 uh last question for you i mean what other issues are are you guys seeing government overreach on
00:27:56.500 that southeastern legal is pushing back on what about student loan debt i mean uh a lot of these
00:28:03.600 i think a lot of what we see around us is government overreach but but what are some of the things that
00:28:08.220 you guys are pushing back on yeah i mean any given day i can be working on a case where we're
00:28:13.340 serving the department of labor or the usda over like you said a litany of overreach but in the
00:28:18.480 educational area you know one thing that i think people have forgotten about is the fight to stop
00:28:22.580 critical race theory in our k-12 schools and on our college campuses um we have several lawsuits a
00:28:29.220 big one uh representing a teacher up in evanston illinois where the school actually engages in
00:28:34.800 mandatory segregation um they put the white people in one room with a non-white people in another room
00:28:39.980 and then they talk to them about racial issues and how to bring those issues into the classroom
00:28:44.540 um racial segregation has been unconstitutional and illegal in this country since 1954 and should have been
00:28:51.280 long before that and so the fact that this is happening in a school today is something that
00:28:55.580 we're trying to bring awareness to um people have kind of stopped for they've stopped talking about
00:29:00.000 this issue and so we're trying to bring that back to light and trying to stop it in the courts of law
00:29:04.540 amazing amazing well all very important in protecting and maintaining the innocence of
00:29:11.920 children uh something that i would imagine and i would have hoped uh that all of us could agree on
00:29:18.820 but unfortunately that's not the reality that we live in uh and so we appreciate you kim everything
00:29:25.100 uh that you're doing uh what southeastern legal is doing and pushing back uh really for common sense
00:29:32.560 policies and so thank you very much and thank you for joining the gains for girls podcast
00:29:37.020 thanks for having me all right guys thank you for tuning in to the gains for girls podcast
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00:30:00.800 them if they have a young daughter or a young son for that matter uh really really important stuff you
00:30:07.660 can check out the training at rally gain center.org i encourage you to do that uh you will also be able
00:30:13.700 to see a list of ambassadors of the center uh other girls who have faced similar if not really the same
00:30:21.020 situation that i found myself in uh myself and these ambassadors were getting on college campuses
00:30:26.540 you can find that list uh on the website hopefully i am coming to a college campus near you i would love to
00:30:33.540 see you there um but again that's at riley gain center.org uh thank you guys for tuning in and we
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