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00:00:27.920 there could have been a video of carmelo saying that he was going to go up and kill one of the

00:00:35.900 players and they would still say that he was the victim a 17 year old boy named austin metcalf he

00:00:42.840 went to a high school track meet in frisco texas guess what he never came home from that track

00:00:49.240 meet because he was stabbed in the chest and killed during an altercation i guess under a team

00:00:54.640 tent. I think it was raining. We're going to get to some of those details today, but what followed

00:00:59.000 that altercation, that murder, that senseless murder, it wasn't just a trial. It became this

00:01:06.120 cultural flashpoint. If your first instinct in a case like this is to view it through the lens

00:01:12.900 of race, then you are the racist, not Austin Metcalf, not his family, you. We are done with

00:01:22.540 the race war BS. So you can go ahead and let Jasmine Crockett know that. You can go ahead 1.00

00:01:28.300 and let Cardi B know that. You can let the Southern Poverty Law Center know. We are done.

00:01:33.360 My guest today, he has been on the ground for this story and plenty of others just like it.

00:01:38.440 Nick Sorter, he's an independent journalist. He is an on-scene reporter. We're going to talk about

00:01:43.280 what actually happened at that track meet, how the story has been totally hijacked online,

00:01:47.320 why victims disappear when politics takes over, what this says about safety at school events,

00:01:52.660 and what it reveals about a culture that would rather fund GoFundMes for a convicted killer

00:01:58.020 than mourn the boy who was murdered. Well, Nick, thank you for joining. I'll tell you,

00:02:07.740 I feel like I'm missing something with the online discourse, with the trial that has gone on,

00:02:14.700 because I'm watching people trip over themselves in real time to try and make the murderer the

00:02:21.360 victim, presumably because of the color of his skin. You've been there really through it all

00:02:26.780 on the ground. For the people who have maybe just seen the headlines or maybe some of the

00:02:31.240 viral social media clips, can you walk us through what actually happened at that Frisco track meet?

00:02:38.000 What are some of the key facts that have gotten lost in all the online discussions?

00:02:41.940 Well, I mean, we heard witnesses under oath saying that that Austin Metcalf, as well as his brother Hunter and other teammates that were under that tent in Frisco, Texas, had asked Carmelo to leave over 15 times.

00:03:02.040 Right. That was under oath said by a witness. It was corroborated by other witnesses and actually a defense's witness said that that Carmelo was actually the instigator in the situation that totally backfired on them.

00:03:19.840 They scored no points in this trial at all. But with these people that were out here on the ground in the parking lot of the courthouse, none of that matters.

00:03:28.320 the facts do not matter they genuinely don't care there could have been a video of of carmelo saying

00:03:36.020 that he was going to go up and kill one of the players and they would still say that he was the

00:03:40.600 victim they would say oh he was just coaxed into it somehow like this was all a setup and actually

00:03:46.220 they have been saying that it's a setup and so you can't reason with these people and so i don't

00:03:51.500 even try that's why you don't hear me talking in any of the videos that i do uh it's just there's

00:03:56.400 no point in having discussions

00:03:58.380 with them. They don't want to have discussions.

00:04:00.580 They don't care, especially what I would have to say

00:04:02.440 because I'm a white guy.

00:04:04.660 And, you know,

00:04:06.080 it's sad that

00:04:08.460 there is an entire side

00:04:10.400 of TikTok, for example, that is

00:04:12.320 dedicated to spreading fake information

00:04:14.640 about this case.

00:04:16.380 They were referring to it as

00:04:18.140 black talk, I guess.

00:04:21.300 And I

00:04:22.320 was scrolling through part of it

00:04:24.420 on one of the

00:04:25.160 the Austin Metcalf supporters is a black guy.

00:04:29.480 He was showing me on his phone.

00:04:31.120 He's just scrolling through and just, 0.99

00:04:32.960 just garbage after garbage after garbage. 0.97

00:04:35.100 And so you have half the people that know they're lying, 0.97

00:04:38.960 but don't care because they think that it's,

00:04:41.280 you know,

00:04:41.680 they got to protect a brother.

00:04:44.340 And then you have another part of people that say that are just kind of too 1.00

00:04:50.160 stupid to, 1.00

00:04:51.060 to know. 1.00

00:04:52.180 Yeah.

00:04:52.680 You know,

00:04:52.860 that's what it's a good point.

00:04:54.200 And I often ask myself this question because I feel like, again, when you're so wrapped up in the online, I have to kind of remove myself. 0.69

00:05:00.540 And I'm like, are these people ignorant at best? 1.00

00:05:04.220 That's like best case scenario is that they're just simply stupid. 1.00

00:05:07.240 Are they lazy? 1.00

00:05:08.580 Do they not want to know the information or do they already know certifiably that they're lying and they just don't really care?

00:05:16.000 Which I think that's worst case scenario because, of course, that points, I mean, straight to to evil. 0.93

00:05:21.240 um yeah you you white guy you're like the king colonizer you're like the the ultimate oppressor 0.98

00:05:28.340 because you're white and straight do you feel like i wanted to believe that it was like a fringe 0.98

00:05:35.600 minority that of people who who was fully bought into the fact that or i guess the the belief that

00:05:42.380 carmelo anthony was the real victim here do you think it's bigger than what people

00:05:47.380 want to initially assume yeah well i what i will say is the group of people that was there uh it

00:05:58.440 was actually quite limited it it didn't turn into a riot because it really couldn't they didn't have

00:06:04.960 the numbers for that uh they also weren't able to mobilize the uh the self-hating white liberals

00:06:12.840 which is very shocking right uh they you didn't hear anything from like barack obama he didn't

00:06:21.580 make any statements benjamin crump who's that race baiting uh attorney that likes to you know

00:06:28.360 fan the flames of like the george floyd situation was uh one of his uh one of his key cases

00:06:35.680 nothing from benjamin crump nothing from al sharpton nobody has uh on the on the black side

00:06:43.760 that has any sort of reputation has come to the defense of carmelo anthony so because because

00:06:50.600 that's just how rock solid the facts are here so it is a fringe minority of uh of people

00:06:58.660 mostly black i think i i saw other than media probably i think there was one

00:07:06.340 liberal white woman that was screaming with the uh uh the blacks standing over there

00:07:12.460 um and you're not it's very difficult to get a riot started as somebody that covers riots it's

00:07:18.700 hard to get a riot started if you first of all you don't have the numbers uh and then second of

00:07:22.780 you don't have those you know in mass those self-hating white liberals you know this was in

00:07:28.980 texas you think it would have been different with like the on the ground presence and ability to

00:07:34.700 mobilize if you were in a place like minneapolis which i know you've been to or portland or like

00:07:39.440 a deep blue city in a blue state potentially yes but even then as i said the the big uh i don't

00:07:48.700 want to say reputable names because they're definitely not reputable people like these

00:07:52.780 these these guys have started you know race wars all across the country uh the ones that that

00:07:58.400 didn't speak out uh you know i i will say the sheriff's department did a fantastic job here

00:08:05.580 they they toed the line perfectly between allowing speech and as soon as it got dicey they stepped in

00:08:12.560 every single time and they made arrests they weren't afraid to make arrests if it started

00:08:17.000 If a riot started, the National Guard would have been on the ground almost immediately.

00:08:20.600 They weren't going to tolerate that here.

00:08:22.540 No, and you know what?

00:08:23.560 That's the beauty of America, and I think often gets lost in these discussions.

00:08:27.680 You get to do that.

00:08:29.080 You get to protest. 1.00

00:08:30.660 We also get to call you stupid for it. 1.00

00:08:33.240 But again, beauty of America. 1.00

00:08:36.360 You mentioned some of those reputable names, reputable in air quotes, who kind of have refrained from the national discussion.

00:08:43.500 uh but one name i would not you know reputable would not be the word i would think to describe

00:08:48.600 her uh who hasn't been hesitant to comment is jasmine crockett we've got a quick video of

00:08:54.480 jasmine crockett i want to play for you here let's watch 35 years for a kid who had decided to go at

00:09:00.480 under a tent that was not his team's tent as it was raining and simply didn't want to be put out

00:09:06.080 in the rain by some random kid that he didn't know who was larger than him listen a lot of people

00:09:11.920 know what it is to live as a black person in this country but just like you can give the benefit of

00:09:16.720 the doubt to so many police officers when they go out and they shoot some black unarmed person

00:09:21.520 even though they are trained the fact that there was little to no mercy scene or humanity scene

00:09:29.200 when this black boy said that i was scared it's hard to like have words to say or to

00:09:35.680 to appropriately analyze what she's getting at there.

00:09:40.900 What's your reaction to these comments?

00:09:42.900 And I think more broadly, what message do they really send?

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00:10:17.560 I think the Texas bar needs to raise their standards. 1.00

00:10:21.120 That's the first thing that needs to happen because she is an attorney. 0.95

00:10:24.860 Somehow is an attorney.

00:10:26.840 I mean, I think at one point she admitted that she was a DEI prosecutor as well.

00:10:30.920 So, I mean, which she just proved it right there.

00:10:36.220 You know, Jasmine Crockett, like, I kind of forgot that she existed for the past, like, two months now after she got blown out in her primary down here.

00:10:44.900 She's going to do anything she can to be relevant. 0.97

00:10:47.880 But that was one of the stupidest arguments that I've heard so far, being that she was basically excusing the murder of Austin Metcalf because a black boy didn't want to stand in the rain. 0.99

00:10:59.740 i mean what the hell kind of argument is that it's like if i don't let you in my stand on my 0.99

00:11:06.680 front porch when it's raining you have the right to kill me for example like what what

00:11:12.520 yeah i i don't it's between her and cardi b some of cardi b's comments online she's like well what 0.99

00:11:20.240 am i gonna tell my sons now i don't know how about don't murder innocent white people an

00:11:27.840 innocent person in general like like what do you mean what are you going to tell your sons i'm 0.97

00:11:31.700 again that's where i feel like i'm missing something i'm like am i actually the crazy one

00:11:36.360 like is it is it me for not understanding at all how you could possibly be so aloof to why there

00:11:43.660 are consequences consequences for horrible actions such as murdering a human being now obviously he

00:11:51.160 the jury convicted him of 35 years in prison uh what do you make of this sentence like were

00:11:58.300 you surprised by this do you think this is like really justice it's honestly it's better than what

00:12:04.920 i expected okay this could have gone as soon as they put manslaughter on the table uh and the the

00:12:10.960 defense went out of their way to make him look like a little boy they put him in an oversized

00:12:16.280 suit so that he looked smaller uh they shaved his hair so that he like didn't have the dreads

00:12:23.320 anymore so he just had a little baby face looking thing um and they still even with the mom crying

00:12:29.700 on the stand and everything still uh she's a piece of work too but uh so i know where he gets

00:12:35.320 it from they still you know came back with murder and 35 years it could have gone up to 99 years but

00:12:43.500 they also could have gone down to as little as two years that was the last ditch effort that

00:12:48.600 the defense was trying to do uh saying that it was a crime of passion uh and so therefore even

00:12:55.880 though he's been convicted of murder you can still only give him two years and that's what you should

00:12:59.780 do um yeah so i mean 35 years it's it's it's better than what i expected to be honest yeah

00:13:07.940 35 years i don't know when he's eligible for parole how young he could be you know best case

00:13:13.080 scenario for him of when he could you know be able to to be released i believe it's 17 years but

00:13:20.280 if the family is not gonna you know the the texas parole board is pretty uh pretty strict so

00:13:26.540 and now they're they're appealing this sentence right is that correct yes uh and i the we don't

00:13:34.420 exactly know what they're appealing yet and i don't know uh i don't know if they know what

00:13:39.740 they're appealing quite yet uh so they put in a notice of appeal but didn't say what they're

00:13:45.380 appealing they're just appealing uh but they at this point they uh they really don't have any

00:13:50.780 money left spent it on houses cars um i think the mom got a nose job i mean just look at the photos

00:13:57.800 is how verifiable is it that that she got a nose job because we saw two pictures next to each other

00:14:05.260 like did her nose morph or did she get a nose job yeah it's like michael jackson level of of changes

00:14:11.520 in the nose um but the gofundme efforts again we saw hundreds of thousands of dollars pour in for

00:14:19.740 this family presumably to use for like defense fund right at least that's what you would imagine

00:14:24.640 they would use it for but no instead again at least what's circulating online i don't know how

00:14:29.300 verifiable it is but it seems as if they bought a new home you know like material items as opposed

00:14:35.660 to using it for the defense fund is that true yeah i mean it's they did use some of it for the

00:14:41.120 defense fund like these uh the attorneys are expensive and especially if you're gonna try

00:14:48.100 to pay an attorney that knows that they're probably going to you know embarrass themselves

00:14:52.760 with the case on a national stage uh so they did though uh not get him a legal team he had one

00:15:02.000 uh a sole practitioner as his attorney and they tried even though they had six hundred thousand

00:15:08.160 dollars raised they still tried to um have him use a public defender and now apparently they're

00:15:17.360 trying to get another public defender to take this appeal um and i don't know i would say they're

00:15:23.680 probably going to end up using the appeal to fundraise again uh and where if that money goes

00:15:29.600 into you know uh a lawyer i don't know i don't know i don't know what kind of lawyer all the

00:15:37.360 lawyers that i've spoken with down here so that they wouldn't bother taking the case it doesn't

00:15:39.960 matter how much you pay them like it's just it's a waste of time and they're going to lose there's

00:15:43.600 nothing to appeal yeah uh you mentioned the the mom kind of being a piece of work i saw a video

00:15:50.080 of carmelo anthony's grandmother i believe uh who was i mean repeatedly yelling things like

00:15:57.060 racist and biased and prejudiced alluding to the jury and the sentencing i think we have a clip

00:16:02.660 let's play it really really quick

00:16:04.440 yeah uh it's it's a freaking uh mess out there the whole time right

00:16:33.180 And that's why the audio is so bad, because it's just a bunch of feral people screaming.

00:16:38.960 And obviously, you've got grandmas, you know, riling up the crowd saying, you know, racist, prejudice, bias. 0.73

00:16:46.220 And then at one point, the second time when I went up to the window, you can hear her say they just sent a message that a white boy can hit a black boy and have no consequences for it.

00:17:04.000 Austin Metcalf is dead.

00:17:05.960 What are the consequences do you want, lady?

00:17:09.040 And that's who you're dealing with.

00:17:11.060 Like these people, like something doesn't click.

00:17:12.920 And it's clear by watching how she was like race hustling the crowd there.

00:17:20.860 I mean, who raised the Carmelo Anthony, right?

00:17:25.720 I mean, it runs in the family, clearly.

00:17:28.340 You know, it seems as if there's a faction of society that wants to be the victim, right?

00:17:37.440 Because I really do think-

00:17:39.180 It's very lucrative.

00:17:40.200 It's very lucrative.

00:17:41.060 it's lucrative and i think it's it's how we've been set up certainly over the past five years

00:17:45.960 is we very much created these two boxes where you are either an oppressor or you are oppressed and

00:17:52.440 as we've said the oppressors like nick you're the top of the totem pole here that you're white 0.50

00:17:57.660 you're straight you're cis okay like whatever other buzzword they want to use you're the top 0.60

00:18:03.400 of the totem pole therefore you are an oppressor really no matter what you do even if you're 0.96

00:18:08.360 murdered, you're still the oppressor. But on the other hand, you have the oppressed. And if you

00:18:13.060 look at it, if you're an oppressor, you owe someone something. But if you are oppressed,

00:18:18.740 you are owed something. Someone has to give you something simply for just like existing

00:18:23.340 and being that. So if you get to pick which box you want to be in, clearly you're going to pick

00:18:29.960 the oppressed. Between something like this and even like the Southern Poverty Law Center,

00:18:36.360 For example, do you think they almost want a racial war?

00:18:43.940 Yes, absolutely they do. 0.53

00:18:47.140 The guy Dominique Alexander was his name.

00:18:49.620 He was the guy that was always standing next to Carmelo Anthony, one of those paid race baiters.

00:18:57.640 You know, the guy that wants to be the modern day Al Sharpton type guy.

00:19:01.240 and they're driving around

00:19:03.500 and they have a convoy

00:19:05.940 of brand new

00:19:07.840 Escalades, $100,000

00:19:10.360 each

00:19:11.080 and they all match

00:19:12.600 and they drive up

00:19:15.480 they're all wearing suits

00:19:17.020 and they're seeing this as dollar signs

00:19:20.080 that's what they were seeing this as

00:19:21.500 they were hoping that if they could find a way

00:19:23.820 to get this guy off

00:19:25.340 that it was going to

00:19:27.100 launch their

00:19:28.340 it's called the Next Generation Action Network or something.

00:19:33.260 It was going to just blow them into the stratosphere, right?

00:19:36.740 They were going to just be swimming in cash at that point.

00:19:41.300 It's sad that it comes down to that, that you have to think about it from terms of,

00:19:45.640 okay, people are just trying to profit off of it.

00:19:47.740 If they were able to successfully turn him into George Floyd,

00:19:51.660 which is what they wanted to do,

00:19:54.500 the amount of money that flows in at that point,

00:19:57.720 Think about Black Lives Matter, for example. But how many hundreds of millions of dollars was thrown into that organization that was just, you know, everybody within the organization ended up getting rich. They didn't do anything for black people. It was all about the money. And in this case, that's if there were riots, it would have been very profitable for these people.

00:20:17.380 Yeah, you know, I've always wanted to ask that question to those who are really bought into the BLM movement and such as, as a black person, how did your life improve from the BLM movement? Genuinely, like not a sarcastic hypothetical question, like how did your life improve from a few people, maybe a handful of people profiting millions and millions of dollars off of the backs of George Floyd?

00:20:44.780 And to your point, you know, creating this kind of George Floyd esque moment, whether you agree with with, you know, the George Floyd situation that I think there were more undisputed facts in that case or excuse me, disputed facts in that case.

00:21:01.540 And the Carmelo Anthony, it is undisputed that he's a murderer.

00:21:05.340 He murdered as opposed to George Floyd ultimately dying, again, whatever you believe the means of his death to be.

00:21:13.300 Carmelo Anthony case is totally different than that right there.

00:21:18.400 You've spent years covering all sorts of different protests and politically charged events.

00:21:25.740 What has been some of the scariest encounters that you've had?

00:21:29.460 Because I have some pretty vivid memories of clips of you in Minnesota and other places where, I mean, you had to imagine that, you know, your life was in danger.

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00:22:08.700 Yeah, especially in places like Minnesota, because the police won't respond to me, right?

00:22:14.020 They're not going to, back when I was being chased down the street in Minnesota,

00:22:20.460 they were adamant on knowing my name before they would respond.

00:22:25.860 And as soon as I gave them my name, they would already have it based on me calling from my own phone.

00:22:31.820 They're just cross-checking to make sure that it is actually me.

00:22:35.800 They're just not going to respond.

00:22:38.280 And they didn't respond.

00:22:39.920 They literally hung up the phone on me when I tried calling 911 out there.

00:22:45.120 And then, obviously, my vehicle was attacked out there.

00:22:48.760 Finally, they got insurance to come through and pay for the damages there because they were throwing rocks through my windows.

00:22:54.920 and while we were in the car

00:22:56.840 trying to get out of there

00:22:59.280 we were trying to leave

00:23:00.220 so they were telling me to leave

00:23:02.600 and then I leave

00:23:03.340 and then they tried to block me from leaving

00:23:04.820 again, you're not dealing with the best and brightest

00:23:08.640 but it's a little

00:23:10.640 it's a little scary sometimes

00:23:13.180 but it's also

00:23:14.100 you're in the moment, it's an adrenaline rush

00:23:16.020 at the same time

00:23:16.920 so you're more focused on

00:23:20.560 I guess you're trying to continue

00:23:24.340 getting the story right like that's there's a reason that uh i i feel like i'm filling a gap

00:23:29.480 because the legacy media will immediately just run away whenever it gets a little bit dicey and

00:23:34.420 then mostly so that they can say oh well uh while we were there you know it was mostly peaceful

00:23:40.120 right it's because you left but it wasn't peaceful you know so it's part of the job uh and in like

00:23:46.980 outside ice newark right i think i think a lot of the the independent coverage that was there is the

00:23:52.260 reason that a lot of that has died down at this point uh and then why newark pd and the state

00:23:59.940 police had to come in and actually do their jobs you know i can tell based on i mean even just this

00:24:06.260 conversation of course i see on all your posts online but even just based on this conversation

00:24:11.220 like you really do approach things entirely unbiased and absolutely independent do you think

00:24:17.120 that's becoming increasingly difficult to do with the scope of of both legacy media but also

00:24:23.880 social media and again to to be able to fund your work like it's got to be hard to approach a

00:24:30.540 situation totally unbiased and have people kind of in your corner supporting you especially again

00:24:36.380 part of those kind of larger institutions yeah i mean like part of what i do that's probably a

00:24:42.780 little bit different than some of these other uh people is that i don't um i don't talk in my

00:24:48.120 and i don't put myself in my videos either i just i film i i show what's going on on the ground

00:24:52.860 uh and i do it straight from my phone and actually i mean you can tell like i actually got got shot

00:24:58.620 with a rubber bullet the other day with the back of the phone it deflected with the uh with the

00:25:03.140 phone but it's all it's all raw footage that i am just on the fly uploading so i don't have time

00:25:08.360 to edit it and

00:25:10.080 besides just trimming

00:25:11.580 it's raw straight from the

00:25:14.420 ground almost in real time and I think

00:25:16.440 that's

00:25:16.840 I think there's value

00:25:19.900 to that rather than

00:25:22.500 filming

00:25:24.540 one long

00:25:26.520 segment to put out at the end

00:25:28.360 of the day as situations

00:25:30.460 evolve it's

00:25:32.360 important for people to know in real time

00:25:34.300 what's going on as real time as we possibly can

00:25:36.300 without doxing my

00:25:38.180 exact location that's that's that's one of the more difficult parts about it too um

00:25:43.240 more and more people are doing it which is great you know i love i tell independent other

00:25:48.900 independent reporters uh that i work with you know where i'm going we watch each other's back

00:25:53.920 the entire time we want as many eyes on the ground as we possibly can as many angles that we can

00:25:59.420 possibly get and anybody can do it you know just start a start an x account you might get banned

00:26:04.620 on instagram for covering some of this stuff so do it on x instead i know i was gonna say what do

00:26:10.200 you find to be the best social platform to reach people because at least for me and my consumption

00:26:15.560 obviously i'm not creating like you are in that way but in my consumption i mean i always go to

00:26:20.980 x that's where i find out like all my breaking news it's significantly faster than what i have

00:26:26.300 seen any other outlet you think x is the best place for it oh yeah and it's not even close

00:26:31.640 So I don't bother much at all with Instagram.

00:26:34.320 I mean, I do have an Instagram.

00:26:35.540 I just don't really use it much. 0.99

00:26:38.360 And TikTok is garbage.

00:26:41.360 So I do have an account there. 0.71

00:26:43.460 I don't really use that one either.

00:26:44.720 Facebook, I'm not really interested.

00:26:48.960 I'm not interested in the AI-generated garbage 0.80

00:26:52.660 that ends up on that, all over that website. 0.84

00:26:54.920 It is so true.

00:26:56.760 It is so true.

00:26:57.760 And it's so sad because my poor grandma

00:26:59.760 falls for it every time.

00:27:00.900 i know i know she was she texts me and i'm like grandma i did no no my grandma will send me like

00:27:08.720 a video of like these little babies talking and like running out of the hospital and she's like

00:27:15.060 look riley i'm like gammy that is fake come on the indian swap videos it's like that's how facebook

00:27:25.280 makes their money at this point. What do you make of AI videos being used now in like campaigns and

00:27:33.460 ads and commercials online? Uh, we saw Spencer Pratt do it. Obviously that that's a totally

00:27:38.500 different conversation, uh, in terms of what the outcome of that was, how fair or how real,

00:27:45.000 uh, or how fraudulent that was. But nonetheless, he, he used some AI ads. What do you,

00:27:51.340 What do you make of that as a journalist and someone who, again, values what is real and what is true?

00:27:58.540 Yeah, I mean, so those ads were actually pretty well done, right?

00:28:03.320 The AI ads that I have an issue with are the ones that are basically like nefariously generated to make it.

00:28:14.400 I think there was one, what was it?

00:28:18.500 I think Thomas Massey had, oh, his opponent put one out of him, like, going into a hotel room with Ilhan Omar and AOC with a Do Not Disturb sign on it, making it look like it was CCTV footage.

00:28:34.120 It's like, that stuff is gross, man.

00:28:35.620 That's just, you don't even have to like Thomas Massey to be like, all right, that's a little crappy.

00:28:40.680 And it's just going to get more and more and more common, because when people see that ad, and there was a certain generation of folks that tend, as we just talked about, that tend to fall for AI stuff more than others.

00:28:56.740 They make up a large portion of the voter base, Riley.

00:28:59.400 So it's genuinely concerning that the ad itself will go viral,

00:29:07.560 and then there'll be an asterisk somewhere in the beginning of the ad

00:29:14.140 talking about how part of it is AI-generated.

00:29:16.900 It'll be right here, way down to the bottom of the screen,

00:29:18.600 and it'll flash, and then you won't see it anymore.

00:29:21.960 And there's not enough momentum to counter it. 0.81

00:29:27.360 It's kind of disgusting.

00:29:29.120 Yeah, I have very tough feelings on that one.

00:29:31.780 No, I do too.

00:29:32.520 And I'm glad you said that because you're right.

00:29:34.960 It elicits a response.

00:29:37.160 And when you're talking about people who think like infant babies can run out of the hospital immediately upon being born, like my grandma, then it's not an honest response.

00:29:49.420 Last thing for you.

00:29:50.680 You know, I don't really like hypotheticals.

00:29:53.120 I don't like assuming, although I do think we have enough information or background or examples now to to probably pretty accurately depict an outcome or predict what what the case would be.

00:30:05.980 But let's say this Carmelo Anthony case was kind of roles reversed or races reversed.

00:30:12.580 And let's say the murderer in this scenario was white and Austin Metcalf was black.

00:30:20.400 How different do you think the response would be from the public?

00:30:27.320 Well, they would have already been, they would have started rioting the day after it happened.

00:30:32.480 That would have been pretty, I mean, obviously it's a hypothetical, but I do believe that to be the case.

00:30:42.800 It would have been much more, I guess this was widely covered, and it was outrage amongst people like myself.

00:30:53.100 And obviously, you know, like regular Americans would be mad about murdering an innocent kid just because you wanted to stand under his tent or whatever. 0.61

00:31:03.100 It's just a ridiculous story, but if they're able to grab something race-wise, they're absolutely going to do it. 0.95

00:31:13.540 It's proven time and time and time again. 0.80

00:31:15.940 Why would you defend that you made the George Floyd, the reincarnation of Christ?

00:31:26.360 like out of that like this this fentanyl head uh woman beater allegedly uh 37 time arrested

00:31:36.120 right it's so like yeah they would have tried to use that if the races were swapped they would

00:31:42.760 definitely use that as an excuse to uh to ride in the streets they wouldn't have waited until

00:31:47.280 the trial they would have done it like i said the day after okay taking a little pause to tell

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00:32:37.420 sure to tell them that Riley from the Riley Gaines Show sent you. What's next for you? What other

00:32:43.760 big projects are you working on at the moment well part of what i do is i rapidly deploy to

00:32:51.480 places so i never have an actual schedule i have uh clothes for the cold and for the warm

00:32:57.740 just because you just don't know uh and so it just see what pops off next i mean it might have

00:33:04.680 to go up there to new york city because y'all can't behave and yeah i don't know if you saw that

00:33:10.300 i thought you're supposed to riot when your team loses well i mean still not riot when your team

00:33:16.540 loses but like why are you rioting when your team wins what is going on guys what is why are you

00:33:22.500 destroying taxi cabs in the middle of the road you know holding up a palestine flag destroying

00:33:28.980 a taxi cab of a taxi whose driver is probably from that region of the world right i mean it's 0.77

00:33:36.220 just it makes no sense so i think that i might have to go there for the next game it is so it

00:33:42.920 is so crazy how you kind of see the same crowd or at least from my experience you know dealing with

00:33:48.840 mostly the trans issue it's those same people who who you know valiantly defend the trans flag well

00:33:56.160 the next day they're holding up the palestine flag or the ukraine flag or the venezuela flag

00:34:01.440 or whatever. Insert the flag

00:34:03.420 other than the American flag.

00:34:05.920 Unless they're burning it. They like to do

00:34:07.600 that. Oh, yeah. Well,

00:34:09.500 of course, if it's red, white, and blue, has

00:34:11.300 50 stars and 13 stripes,

00:34:13.320 it deserves to be on fire, on the 0.97

00:34:15.480 ground, being stomped on. 0.98

00:34:17.260 Which is the irony, because living here

00:34:19.280 gives them the ability to do that. It

00:34:21.260 fires me up every time I

00:34:23.400 see a video of someone burning

00:34:25.380 the American flag while hoisting up

00:34:27.580 another one. It's like, go live there. 0.68

00:34:29.940 Go see

00:34:31.280 If you could do that to that flag in that nation, I have a feeling they would be a whole lot more appreciative for America and the freedoms that we have.

00:34:40.040 Yeah, they can learn the hard way.

00:34:41.920 Yeah.

00:34:42.300 Well, God bless you.

00:34:43.380 Thank you.

00:34:43.780 We're going to pray for you and your safety and your ability to keep being effective because you rock.

00:34:50.580 I get so much of my information from you.

00:34:52.660 I have my post notifications on.

00:34:54.460 So I feel like I'm deploying with you, except I'm from the comfort of my own home.

00:34:59.480 so uh thank you very very much thank you guys for watching the riley gain show you can subscribe

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Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - June 12, 2026

Nick Sortor Breaks Down the Austin Metcalf Trial ｜ The Riley Gaines Show

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