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00:00:30.000You're not going to call breastfeeding moms chest feeders.
00:00:33.600You're not going to call women who give birth gestating individuals.
00:00:37.860I mean, that's just candidly, it's bull and no one has time for that.
00:00:45.680Well, Congresswoman, thank you so much for joining the Riley Gaines show.
00:00:49.720I am just super excited and very grateful for your time.
00:00:54.180You have been someone who has just been a really fierce defender of common sense.
00:00:59.740of women's rights, which we are reclaiming as the Republican Party. The other side,
00:01:05.640they claim to be the party of and for women. I have come to learn that really couldn't be
00:01:11.140further from the truth. I think the first thing I want to talk to you about really proves that
00:01:15.400the governor of New York, Kathy Hochul, has a bill sitting on her desk right now that replaces
00:01:20.800words, words like mother and father and parent itself, words that we have never ever struggled
00:01:28.400to understand in the 250 years that America has been established, and certainly much longer than
00:01:33.760that, replacing those words with more gender neutral terms, such as gestating parent when
00:01:40.880referring to mothers and non-gestating parent when referring to fathers. I really can't think
00:01:47.440of words or phrases or terminology that is more dehumanizing than gestating parent.
00:01:55.800walk us through this my understanding is that the republicans women caucus
00:01:59.580sent a letter to the governor walk us through this and your thoughts here
00:02:03.840we get word that the the state of new york is actually through legislative efforts looking to
00:02:11.420pass legislation to erase moms and dads right crazy town type stuff and as chair of the republican
00:02:18.660women's caucus i'm like all right let's just monitor this surely there are moms and dads
00:02:23.580serving in the legislature that will find this deeply offensive, regardless of whether you're
00:02:27.340Republican or Democrat, right? Overwhelmingly, this bill passes both chambers of the New York
00:02:34.520State House and Senate and makes its way to the governor's desk. And so Governor Kathy Hochul
00:02:41.340has this sitting on her desk ready to sign and effectively would erase from any government
00:02:48.900entity, the term mother and father, and replaced with gestating and non-gestating parent. And
00:02:57.320you and I are both new moms. Our babies are about a month apart. And as first-time moms,
00:03:04.280you really start to understand how very special motherhood is and how it really fundamentally
00:03:13.280changes your whole worldview, your life, everything about you. And it's the most
00:03:20.260precious experience in my viewpoint. And here we see a government entity seeking to remove
00:03:27.520that unique relationship by stripping the titles. And this is so 1984, where they want to change
00:03:35.760the language to fit the agenda. And I think what it comes down to is this is coming from the same
00:03:44.000party, right? The ultra radical left that says they don't know what a woman is. And then they
00:03:50.500say, well, now we have to be in an effort to be inclusive. We have to put men in women's locker
00:03:55.100rooms. And nobody knows that issue better than you, Riley. I mean, you've been the lead of
00:04:00.160championing women's sports and spaces and protecting girls and women. And then they're
00:04:06.560saying, oh, no, no, it's just not the war on women that we're going after. Now we're going after
00:04:10.160motherhood, right? They call us chess feeders, which is just the most insulting thing in the
00:04:15.080world. And now they are just outright trying to get rid of mother and father. And it took me a
00:04:22.460minute to really try to understand where this is deriving from. And I really have come to the
00:04:31.480conclusion that, and we see this in the elections, right, in New York, where you have these democratic
00:04:36.440socialists getting elected, but then the leadership of that movement saying the quiet part out loud of
00:04:42.500the goal has never been socialism, it's always communism. When you look at communist regimes,
00:04:48.920there is always an effort culturally to erode the individuality of a person and the independence
00:04:57.720of a family unit because they want families and people to be dependent on government and what
00:05:03.420better way to do that than to strip the most meaningful titles that we have within our family
00:05:08.400of mother and father and um so right now we think that this could be the test case for other
00:05:16.980radical states like New York to employ, to start really pushing the dependency and control agenda.
00:05:25.320And I know that sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory, but it's really not. I mean, we're
00:05:28.620watching this in real time. No, it's not at all. I was actually just chatting with
00:05:33.280one of your colleagues, Congressman McGuire, about the welfare programs that exist and are
00:05:40.080funded by taxpayer dollars. And I think 16 or 17 welfare programs, so think SNAPs, EBTs,
00:05:46.620those types of things, they basically penalize you if you are married. They're encouraging
00:05:52.320single-parent homes. So it does, it maybe sounds like, you know, tinfoil hat crazy conspiracies,
00:05:58.980but it's really not at all. That's absolutely the direction that we're going. And it is totally,
00:06:04.800if you can approach it with an unbiased view and understanding history at the same time,
00:06:09.960you do recognize it as an attack on the nuclear family. And you're right. I mean,
00:06:14.960menstruator and chest feeder and bleeder and birthing person and, and gestating parent.
00:06:21.020I actually saw where the governor of Wisconsin, Governor Evers attempted to in their state
00:06:26.060statute, changed the word mother to inseminated persons, inseminated person. That's like, I don't
00:06:33.480even refer to like my, my cattle, the animals that we have in the yard who are inseminated,
00:06:38.460who are, you know, with, with carrying calves and foals. I don't even refer to them as inseminated
00:06:43.880beings, because that is absolutely absurd thing to say. When I read that, I immediately thought of
00:06:49.900maybe families who don't conceive the natural way, or maybe they don't have children by the
00:06:55.980natural way. I thought of adoptive families or step-moms even. Are they harmed in this verbiage
00:07:03.160in an attempt to be inclusive? Are they excluded here? Absolutely. Because I mean, can you imagine,
00:07:09.080And in our letter, we talk about, you know, families that adopt. And I immediately thought about this sign that I gave to my mom when I was a little kid for Mother's Day.
00:07:24.020And it was, I'm paraphrasing here, but basically something along the lines of, you know, it takes someone very special to be a mom, right? The term mom. And of course, the beauty of, you know, carrying your own child and whatnot, it is, like I said, a life changing experience.
00:07:41.780but there are a lot of people who are wonderful people who are in fact mothers that adopt beautiful
00:07:48.740children. And in my mind, that doesn't make them any less of a mother. They are caring for this
00:07:55.380individual. They're caring for this child. And when you take away, like I said, you start eroding
00:08:00.960the family unit. You're really starting to pull people away and make them dependent and force
00:08:08.180them onto something else. I think that we are watching in real time and effort to co-opt our
00:08:13.740traditional culture and our traditional norms in an attempt to really make a political move here.
00:08:22.980And to me, that's really scary because so many people are like, oh no, that's crazy. Well,
00:08:28.140a lot of crazy things have happened and people get busy with their lives and I get it. But if
00:08:34.800we don't stand up and say, no, that's not okay. You're not taking away, you know, you're not
00:08:40.200going to take away women's sports. You're not going to put men in our locker rooms. You're
00:08:43.380not going to call, you know, breastfeeding moms, chest feeders. You're not going to, uh, call,
00:08:49.960call women who give birth gestating, uh, individuals. I mean, that's just candidly,
00:08:55.560it's bullshit and no one has time for that. No. Yeah. I think adoption and, and, you know,
00:09:02.780if you can foster children. I think it's one of the most beautiful and selfless ministries that
00:09:07.800you could possibly engage in. So I'm right there with you. Speaking of communism and kind of this
00:09:16.080rise of socialism that we've seen in the U.S. specifically among those who are attempting to
00:09:21.800be elected officials, what do you make of it? We've seen like the democratic socialists of
00:09:26.980America and kind of the influence they've had. I think I've been watching it in the state of
00:09:30.460Colorado. What do you make of that? Is that a pretty grave concern? And do you think it will
00:09:35.560spread across the US? Yes. Short answer. Yes. I mean, um, I, many people know I'm a Colorado native
00:09:44.720and when I was growing up, you know, Colorado was very much a Western state. I rodeoed my whole life
00:09:51.460and we, we subscribed to what is known as the code of the West. Right. Um, and it was just this,
00:09:58.940ideals. It was really about American ideals of helping your neighbor, helping yourself,
00:10:06.760independence, treating people fairly and right. And now I look at where Colorado has gone. It's
00:10:15.400a complete 180. And I don't recognize my home state anymore, where you have people who are
00:10:23.380openly espousing communist ideals. And I think that there's this bit of a romanticism that
00:10:30.640people have of what it is and what it isn't. And you talk to anyone who has fled a socialist or
00:10:36.920communist country like Russia, like Venezuela, like Cuba, you ask them and they will tell you
00:10:44.880with tears in their eyes how it destroyed not only their country, their community, and their family,
00:10:51.120um but the horrors that they have seen and witnessed as an experience of this attempt right
00:10:57.300um to to force this type of system that is beautiful they think they say it's beautiful
00:11:08.420on paper um i don't see anything beautiful about it um where you are taking and redistributing
00:11:15.820and then forcing people to do things that they don't want to do.
00:11:21.600And when you see what's happening in Colorado with these candidates, they talk a great game.
00:11:28.780But when it comes down to it, ultimately what they want to do is take from people who are producers
00:11:34.160and they don't redistribute, right, to help people.
00:11:38.360We know that from the experiment with the Biden administration.
00:11:42.940Under the Biden administration, they wanted to tax. I mean, when Bernie Sanders himself is saying that the Inflation Reduction Act actually doesn't reduce inflation, that ought to tell you everything you need to know about this agenda.
00:11:55.400it is all about growing the size and scope of government so that we the people are dependent
00:12:02.880on government for everything and then those that are in power they stay in control because once
00:12:10.060people are dependent on you for something they're not going to vote against their own self-interest
00:12:14.260right which is why we're at this this moment in time this precipice of having to really define
00:12:20.700what the next 250 years of America is going to look like and make sure that our generation is
00:12:25.480in the fight. You talked a little bit about how trying to engage women has been a really,
00:12:30.640really tough thing for our party. It is. It is. And that's in large part why I'm doing what I'm
00:12:35.980doing and what you're doing is so important. Heck yeah. Yeah. And talking about specifically
00:12:42.420the Biden administration and the communist tendencies that we saw there, I don't even
00:12:48.900think we have to go back that far look at what mom donnie tweeted last week and saying you know
00:12:52.880make sure you turn your thermostat to 78 degrees so we can keep the grid you know uh under control
00:12:58.760excuse me no one is telling me what temperature to keep my house at so long as i pay my electricity
00:13:05.080bill and certainly i'm not putting it to nearly 80 degrees in the middle of july that's why people
00:13:11.140from states like new york and california and and the usual bad actors are fleeing to states like
00:13:17.380yours and mine. Do you feel like in your home state of Florida, there has been an exodus of
00:13:25.880people from those states now fleeing to the free state of Florida? Oh my gosh. Yes. And I thought
00:13:32.800it was so crazy when he tweeted that, you know, like, oh, keep your temperature, your thermostat
00:13:36.62078 um okay commie um you can come take my ac from uh my nice and my nice and um chill 68 degree
00:13:47.780yeah i turned my thermostat one degree colder when i saw that tweet and i thought to myself
00:13:52.920again you he mentioned the grid and that's the reason why they're doing this but also there's
00:13:56.600this big movement to get everyone on electric cars i'm like come on at least at least attempt
00:14:02.840to make sense you know they can't and they anytime that you call them out on their contradictions or
00:14:09.580their hypocrisy um of course they turn around and they call you names right you're either you're
00:14:14.620some sort of an ist you're a racist right or a sexist or you're some ist and and it's again
00:14:21.080they just the facts are never on their side the truth will never be on their side and all they
00:14:25.840have to resort to is just the name calling right and and the bullying it's so crazy but to your
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00:16:35.800slash Riley Gaines. You surprised a lot of people recently by talking about your ectopic pregnancy,
00:16:45.420sharing this story publicly. I don't want you to rehash everything because I can only imagine how
00:16:52.620scary and traumatic and difficult it is to go through a season of life like that. But I have
00:17:00.040seen where your experience has been totally misconstrued online. Can you talk about why
00:17:07.600you maybe decided to share this story publicly and what the response has been since? Yeah, no.
00:17:13.980Um, so a couple of years ago, um, I experienced a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy, um,
00:17:32.100And, um, mine was, um, an interstitial, which is right, right at the corner, um, which is
00:17:39.420a very vascular area of the body where what happens is the baby typically grows because
00:17:45.440you're producing these HCG hormones and it eventually ruptures and it causes internal
00:17:50.760bleeding and it's life-threatening for the mom. The baby never survives. And one of the things
00:17:57.900that happened was I woke up one morning, I was hemorrhaging and found out I was pregnant,
00:18:03.460immediately thought I was miscarrying. And it took the doctors about 10 days to figure out,
00:18:07.120oh, you have, you're, you're experiencing an ectopic. Um, my, my doctors could not find a
00:18:14.160heartbeat. Um, and they were very, very concerned, um, that I was very close to bleeding out just
00:18:24.040internal bleeding. And so this was about 30 days, give or take from when the Florida heartbeat law
00:18:32.720had taken effect and gone into effect, which is a six-week heartbeat ban on abortion. And of
00:18:43.000course, like every state in the union, there is exceptions for life of the mother, incest, and
00:18:49.960rape. And there was also clarifying language that said that miscarriages and ectopics do not
00:18:57.640qualify as abortions. But the abortion lobby, the pro-abortion lobby, and those activists,
00:19:06.000they have basically banked their entire agenda on misleading women and scaring women and doctors
00:19:17.880and healthcare professionals into believing that treatment, DNCs and treatment for ectopics,
00:19:24.720the methotrexate, that that is an abortion. Even Planned Parenthood has acknowledged,
00:19:30.820no, it's not an abortion. And so I was in the ER. Doctors, they hesitated to treat me because
00:19:37.240they were like, well, we're getting these advertisements. Literally, a nurse showed
00:19:41.900me on her phone an advertisement from a pro-abortion lobbying group that said that doctors
00:19:46.740and nurses could lose their licenses and face prosecution if they helped women who were
00:19:52.440experiencing miscarriages or ectopics. And it was that fear that they had from these
00:19:58.980advertisements that we found out much later. They were from these abortion groups. They had
00:20:06.100been geofencing these ads around hospitals and doctor's offices to scare them because they
00:20:13.080wanted to try to keep the issue of miscarriages and ectopics in the same conversation as elective
00:20:22.020abortions, you know, terminating healthy babies for no medical reason. And I remember sitting
00:20:30.440there and just stunned. Like I was sitting there in the room, reading the law off of my phone
00:20:37.740to the doctors. And so I tell this story because I kept telling my husband and my husband throughout
00:20:44.780this whole experience, we kept going back and forth saying like, what happens to the women
00:20:48.820who don't have a doctor to call or maybe they're alone and scared to death? What happens to a
00:20:57.460woman who doesn't have the means to get to a hospital? There were all these questions around
00:21:03.560really broadly women's healthcare and access. And the thing that has always been so frustrating to
00:21:09.180me is that politics have always tend to boil down women's issues to one issue, and that's abortion.
00:21:17.120they treat us like morons like we're single issue voters and we're not and um as someone who's pro
00:21:24.760life i find that deeply offensive that one they treat abortion as though it's health care it is
00:21:30.400not um i don't care if you're talking to the american medical association or um the association
00:21:37.560for ob gyns or hell even take planned parenthood none of these organizations
00:21:44.180them or the law have ever classified treatment for miscarriages and ectopics as abortions ever
00:21:51.180and and and so i come out and i tell this story because i wanted women to feel one not alone
00:21:59.960because i felt like there was a lot of women who were going through similar situations but scared
00:22:05.620to speak out for fear of the retaliation they would get and um i got that retaliation in spades
00:22:12.840I mean, death threats galore. You can't even imagine the death threats. And recently I was
00:22:18.940on a podcast and the reporter kind of threw me a curveball, asked me to share the story.
00:22:22.780I wasn't prepared to really talk about it, but I'm kind of a brutally honest,
00:22:26.880hard on my sleeve type person. And I was like, you know, sure, I'll talk about it.
00:22:30.060And I did. And I was I was brutally honest about it. And she didn't like she didn't like my answers.
00:22:34.480She didn't like I think she didn't like the fact that I was calling out the pro-abortion lobby and
00:22:42.540and how they have hurt women. Um, and, and I think that story needs to be told because even just
00:22:49.500today, um, I heard from a woman who said, um, she had a, the same type of a topic pregnancy,
00:22:57.560she's pro-life and she feels like she can't talk about it for fear of retaliation. And it's because
00:23:05.220we've lost the narrative on this. We've lost, um, our voice on this. And I think it's time
00:23:11.460that we take it back. A hundred percent. So how do we do that? Is there like legislation that can,
00:23:19.040can be passed? Maybe that's too kind of in the weeds. Do we do that culturally? Like what are
00:23:24.860some of the actionable ways that, that we can reclaim the narrative? Because I'm, I mean,
00:23:30.600I'm right there with you. Like it's so frustrating for women's healthcare, which there, there could
00:23:36.380be strides to be made and innovation and all of these incredible things that have been done in
00:23:42.740recent years and still need to be done for women's health care. It's so frustrating that women's
00:23:47.620health care is reduced down to abortion, which, as you so eloquently put, is really not health care
00:23:53.520at all. Actually, that's like death. Before you knew what a stock was, you traded snacks,
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00:24:11.580made to trade and TD Easy Trade is made to help care. I don't know, like it's not health care.
00:24:18.080So what needs to be done to reclaim that narrative to make actual strides for actual women's health
00:24:24.580care? There's so there's so much in this. I mean, on on this issue in particular,
00:24:31.660Um, we actually put out a resolution talk and named it truth, um, truth in women's and healthcare, um, because the fact remains that there is a narrative out there that, um, we've just been, uh, we have not been successful.
00:24:49.440We, I would say people in the pro-life community, we've really tried to push back against it.
00:24:54.340And when you take away and just I would say just from a very objective standpoint, take away the pro-life, pro-abortion sides.
00:25:04.060And if if we were to look at this and say, OK, women who are experiencing miscarriages or women who experience ectopic pregnancies, they have to seek care.
00:25:15.020Right. And in a miscarriage, the baby has has tragically passed an ectopic.
00:25:19.580the baby never survives. In my case, my baby had passed. No woman is choosing that. No woman is
00:25:29.320actively choosing that, right? When you have someone who makes the choice to terminate a
00:25:35.000perfectly healthy baby and is ending someone's life, an active heartbeat, try selling that
00:25:45.080versus selling we're we're protecting women and and and they can't they can't sell murder so what
00:25:53.380they have to sell is this is health care and what they're really saying is they're just trying to
00:25:59.060wrap it all up because if we actually reclaim the the truth on this and it is a fact it is an
00:26:04.620absolute fact that those two miscarriages and ectopics they're not abortions once people start
00:26:10.920recognizing that they're gonna be like, wait a minute, this is barbaric over here. This is
00:26:15.940unconscionable. This is what they can't, they cannot stand on that agenda. So that's why they
00:26:24.400are so fiercely trying to keep, um, the, the idea that, that women are getting abortions or seeking
00:26:32.740abortion healthcare when they're going in for a DNC. And it couldn't be further from the truth.
00:26:39.280I mean, from the scientific community, from the medical community, from the legal standpoint, could not be further from the truth.
00:26:45.140And there's not one person who has been able to come to me and say, oh, in this state, life of the mother, right, is not covered.