Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - July 23, 2025


Riley Escapes Alcatraz with Woke Sharks Nipping At Her Social Media

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Alcatraz, the prison in the middle of the San Francisco Bay, is getting a much-needed facelift. A new addition to the prison complex has been in the works for a long time, and now it s time to see if it can be done.

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00:03:20.740 Of course, Alcatraz has really made the news over the past week or so.
00:03:25.240 Actually, really longer than that, if we're looking at alligator Alcatraz.
00:03:28.300 But we're talking about Alcatraz, the prison in the middle of the San Francisco Bay.
00:03:32.880 Donald Trump, he put this out on True Social.
00:03:36.260 He says, in all caps, again, True Trump fashion,
00:03:39.440 rebuild and open Alcatraz.
00:03:41.600 For too long, America has been plagued by vicious, violent, and repeat criminal offenders, 0.53
00:03:46.180 the dregs of society who will never contribute anything other than misery and suffering.
00:03:50.820 When we were a more serious nation in times past,
00:03:53.100 we did not hesitate to lock up the most dangerous criminals
00:03:55.320 and keep them far away from anyone they could harm.
00:03:57.760 That's the way it's supposed to be.
00:03:59.280 Amen.
00:03:59.520 No longer will we tolerate these serial offenders who spread filth,
00:04:03.040 bloodshed, and mayhem on our streets.
00:04:04.660 That is why today, I am directing the Bureau of Prisons,
00:04:07.460 together with the Department of Justice, FBI, and Homeland Security,
00:04:10.320 to reopen a substantially enlarged and rebuilt Alcatraz
00:04:14.920 to house America's most ruthless and violent offenders.
00:04:18.500 We will no longer be held hostage to criminals, thugs, and judges,
00:04:22.280 interesting, that are afraid to do their job
00:04:24.820 and allow us to remove criminals who came into our country illegally.
00:04:28.280 The reopening of Alcatraz will serve as a symbol of law, order, and justice.
00:04:33.080 We will make America great again.
00:04:36.100 Of course, that was his campaign slogan,
00:04:38.260 both in 2016, 2020, and 2024,
00:04:41.040 make America great again.
00:04:43.640 This would do just that.
00:04:44.960 This would actually extend beyond that.
00:04:46.320 This would make America safe again.
00:04:48.240 As you can imagine, liberals were not happy with this.
00:04:53.200 Those who suffer severely from TDS.
00:04:56.400 This guy put on Twitter, or on X, he says,
00:04:58.580 Trump even mentioning reopening Alcatraz 0.94
00:05:00.620 is absolutely abhorrent and disgusting. 0.98
00:05:02.960 Puts a knot in my stomach. 0.98
00:05:04.560 The only one who belongs in prison 0.99
00:05:06.560 is himself and his staff of Nazi a-holes. 0.95
00:05:10.660 Happy Monday. 0.66
00:05:11.580 Trump is a see you next Tuesday.
00:05:13.000 Clearly, they are taking it very, very well.
00:05:16.240 I wonder if this guy had a knot in his stomach
00:05:18.100 when Lakin Riley died.
00:05:21.980 I will never forget listening to that court proceeding
00:05:26.140 where Lakin Riley's father spoke,
00:05:29.100 and it broke me.
00:05:31.120 So I wonder if he felt that exact same way.
00:05:34.100 The controversy here is
00:05:36.420 that President Trump's plan to reopen Alcatraz
00:05:39.140 could cost around $2 billion per Axios.
00:05:42.000 Which, by the way, is $500 million
00:05:45.200 less than the Federal Reserve headquarters
00:05:47.980 renovations from Jerome Powell.
00:05:51.320 So how does a maximum security
00:05:53.340 abandoned island prison
00:05:55.640 cost less than a government office?
00:05:57.440 That's the question.
00:05:58.660 But let's watch this video
00:06:00.140 right here from Nancy Pelosi,
00:06:01.820 who says that the reopening of Alcatraz 1.00
00:06:03.780 is one of Trump's stupidest suggestions. 0.99
00:06:06.500 The president's notion about Alcatraz 1.00
00:06:12.240 with stiff competition, mind you, 1.00
00:06:15.820 is one of his stupidest suggestions. 1.00
00:06:19.140 Stiff competition. 1.00
00:06:20.480 There's so many other stupid ideas, 1.00
00:06:22.700 ideas, I don't even call them ideas, 1.00
00:06:24.940 notions that they have put forth.
00:06:27.400 The cost to shape it up
00:06:32.380 and the cost to run it
00:06:34.440 are just formidable.
00:06:36.540 And it's really sad because
00:06:37.880 they said we don't have enough money
00:06:39.240 to feed our children
00:06:40.220 or to get health care to people
00:06:42.120 because we're too busy
00:06:43.620 giving tax cuts to the rich.
00:06:45.180 But we have money for 0.82
00:06:46.580 really a ridiculous mission
00:06:49.140 that is never going to happen. 0.81
00:06:50.820 I think Nancy Pelosi 1.00
00:06:51.700 thinks this is stupid 1.00
00:06:53.300 because she can't buy stock in it. 1.00
00:06:55.380 Look, I don't want to hear a word
00:06:56.680 from Democrats about something
00:06:58.340 costing too much.
00:06:59.160 These are the same people
00:06:59.940 who spent billions of dollars,
00:07:01.700 who approved to spend
00:07:02.760 billions of dollars
00:07:04.000 on DEI grants
00:07:05.560 and initiatives and contracts.
00:07:06.960 These are the same people
00:07:08.060 who oppose DOGE,
00:07:09.900 the Department of Government Efficiency,
00:07:12.380 for crying out loud.
00:07:13.720 So that's what I think
00:07:15.420 about Nancy Pelosi.
00:07:16.520 Look, who would be my first pick
00:07:18.120 to go in these prisons?
00:07:20.160 I think, number one, Fauci.
00:07:21.260 And again, interesting,
00:07:22.080 President Trump
00:07:22.620 and his true social,
00:07:23.800 he said judges,
00:07:25.040 which hopefully that means
00:07:26.640 that there will be
00:07:27.260 some sort of crackdown
00:07:28.360 on these judicial figures,
00:07:31.300 unelected bureaucrats,
00:07:32.800 who continue to really circumvent
00:07:34.980 the American people,
00:07:36.200 what the American people voted for,
00:07:37.960 the president that 77 million people
00:07:41.740 turned out to support.
00:07:43.440 and to circumvent Congress,
00:07:45.020 quite frankly.
00:07:47.100 Yeah, Fauci,
00:07:47.960 I think he belongs there.
00:07:49.680 Who else?
00:07:51.080 People who don't put their bins up
00:07:52.780 when you go through TSA,
00:07:54.400 right, the security checkpoint
00:07:55.560 and airports.
00:07:56.360 If you go through that line,
00:07:57.980 you take your backpack
00:07:58.700 out of the bin,
00:07:59.320 your suitcase out of the bin,
00:08:00.160 and you leave that bin
00:08:01.180 on the little conveyor belt thing
00:08:02.720 without putting it
00:08:03.840 where it's intended to go,
00:08:05.880 straight to Alcatraz.
00:08:07.540 Who else?
00:08:08.380 People who film themselves
00:08:09.820 crying
00:08:10.780 and voluntarily post it
00:08:12.720 to the internet
00:08:13.860 for the world to see.
00:08:15.080 For the life of me,
00:08:15.760 I can't fathom this.
00:08:16.440 I cannot imagine,
00:08:17.160 like, number one,
00:08:18.840 sobbing,
00:08:20.420 thinking to myself
00:08:21.300 while in the midst
00:08:22.120 of a breakdown
00:08:22.840 that I need to film it,
00:08:24.120 filming it,
00:08:25.300 finishing the recording,
00:08:26.620 going back to watch it,
00:08:28.560 thinking,
00:08:28.960 yes, this is good
00:08:29.620 clicking posts
00:08:30.180 for the world to see.
00:08:31.060 Straight to Alcatraz.
00:08:32.600 I'm kidding, of course.
00:08:33.440 This prison institution
00:08:36.200 will house
00:08:36.880 the most heinous
00:08:38.940 of criminals,
00:08:39.880 which I believe
00:08:41.100 is a good thing.
00:08:41.900 I really do.
00:08:42.960 I don't think prisons,
00:08:44.220 especially, again,
00:08:44.960 those prisons
00:08:46.080 for the worst
00:08:46.800 of the worst criminals
00:08:47.540 this country has seen
00:08:49.440 who roam our streets,
00:08:51.140 I don't think they're meant
00:08:52.120 to be a luxury hotel.
00:08:53.800 I am all for
00:08:54.620 creating these, again,
00:08:57.680 penitentiaries
00:08:58.380 or institutions
00:08:59.320 surrounded by
00:09:00.920 very dangerous animals.
00:09:02.320 Again, whether that is
00:09:02.980 Alcatraz
00:09:03.500 surrounded by
00:09:04.740 great white sharks
00:09:05.460 or alligator Alcatraz
00:09:06.780 surrounded by alligators,
00:09:08.760 these are not meant
00:09:09.520 to be desirable situations
00:09:11.560 that you want
00:09:12.420 to find yourself in.
00:09:13.940 They are meant
00:09:14.700 to be a punishment.
00:09:16.380 Okay?
00:09:16.720 So, I'm all for it.
00:09:17.720 Maybe we can create one
00:09:18.600 in, like,
00:09:20.420 Antarctica
00:09:21.100 and have it
00:09:22.220 be surrounded by,
00:09:23.560 like, polar bears.
00:09:24.580 I don't know.
00:09:25.480 Anyways, I swam Alcatraz.
00:09:27.600 I debunked the myth.
00:09:28.960 Can you escape?
00:09:30.300 Yes, you can.
00:09:31.440 And again,
00:09:31.680 I did this at
00:09:32.240 31 Weeks Pregnant.
00:09:33.780 Actually, I did it
00:09:34.500 last year for the first time.
00:09:36.320 I was much more fit then.
00:09:38.560 I will say I was
00:09:39.100 a little more buoyant
00:09:39.860 this year.
00:09:40.480 Maybe that helped me.
00:09:41.740 But basically,
00:09:42.720 what happens is
00:09:43.540 that you ride a boat
00:09:44.800 out to the prison,
00:09:46.120 you're dropped off
00:09:46.980 at the prison,
00:09:47.540 and you swim back to shore.
00:09:48.720 It's about a mile
00:09:49.640 and a half swim.
00:09:51.920 So,
00:09:52.520 dropped off there.
00:09:54.620 It was pretty incredible,
00:09:55.960 actually.
00:09:56.640 I did this with a group
00:09:57.840 of current
00:09:59.080 and former Navy SEALs
00:10:00.620 and Army veterans.
00:10:02.200 I didn't publicize this
00:10:03.800 on my social medias
00:10:04.620 when I was posting
00:10:05.340 about this
00:10:05.740 because many of these
00:10:07.340 military members,
00:10:08.460 they cannot be mentioned
00:10:09.420 by name
00:10:10.740 or I cannot share
00:10:12.160 their stories.
00:10:12.920 They're incredible,
00:10:13.660 heroic stories
00:10:14.840 of what they've been able
00:10:15.740 to accomplish
00:10:16.320 because some of them
00:10:17.160 are still active duty.
00:10:18.480 It would put them
00:10:19.060 in a position
00:10:19.480 of being compromised.
00:10:20.520 And of course,
00:10:21.000 that is not something
00:10:21.740 that I want to do.
00:10:23.140 But nonetheless,
00:10:23.560 these people are heroes.
00:10:25.840 They are America's
00:10:27.080 unsung heroes.
00:10:27.920 And it was just amazing
00:10:29.600 to be able to,
00:10:30.560 for a few days,
00:10:31.900 have that time
00:10:33.220 of fellowship
00:10:34.120 and companionship
00:10:35.340 and be able to talk
00:10:36.200 with them
00:10:36.540 and honor them.
00:10:38.140 I left this experience
00:10:39.880 for the second year in a row
00:10:41.140 just feeling
00:10:42.420 so overwhelmed
00:10:43.640 with gratitude
00:10:44.180 for those who
00:10:44.960 put themselves
00:10:45.840 and their lives
00:10:46.940 at risk.
00:10:48.140 I can mention
00:10:48.800 some of these people
00:10:49.400 I swam with,
00:10:49.900 one of those being
00:10:50.460 Charles Keating III.
00:10:52.220 He actually swam
00:10:53.720 in the Montreal
00:10:54.280 Summer Olympics in 1976.
00:10:56.320 So it was remarkable
00:10:57.740 to be able to swim
00:10:58.900 alongside him.
00:11:00.260 Obviously,
00:11:00.560 he's a bit older
00:11:01.140 at this point,
00:11:01.820 but just how fast,
00:11:03.420 how efficient
00:11:04.180 his stroke was,
00:11:05.180 was incredible.
00:11:06.600 But beyond his own
00:11:07.520 accomplishments
00:11:07.980 in swimming
00:11:09.460 and for the United States,
00:11:11.560 what he's been able
00:11:12.800 to build out
00:11:13.540 following a horrific incident
00:11:15.260 that his family faced,
00:11:16.220 he has a nonprofit
00:11:16.880 now called C4,
00:11:18.360 which is really there
00:11:19.780 to provide assistance
00:11:20.800 and guidance
00:11:21.260 and resources
00:11:21.900 to families
00:11:22.840 of military members
00:11:24.580 in high-stress environments
00:11:26.680 and circumstances.
00:11:28.040 So awesome stuff,
00:11:28.880 but again,
00:11:29.140 this follows
00:11:29.500 a pretty tragic scenario
00:11:31.800 where his son,
00:11:33.340 who's also named
00:11:34.460 Charles Keating IV,
00:11:36.660 he was a U.S. Navy SEAL.
00:11:38.600 He was actually
00:11:39.260 a sniper with the SEALs,
00:11:40.780 but he was killed
00:11:41.420 in action
00:11:42.000 against ISIS forces
00:11:43.840 in Iraq in 2016.
00:11:46.940 Following this,
00:11:48.020 he was awarded
00:11:48.700 the Navy Cross,
00:11:49.440 which is the U.S. military's
00:11:51.320 second highest award
00:11:52.380 for valor.
00:11:53.480 I think he was
00:11:54.020 the third
00:11:54.760 American service member
00:11:56.500 to be killed 0.91
00:11:57.220 while fighting 0.99
00:11:58.860 ISIL in Iraq
00:12:01.400 in 2016.
00:12:02.800 Again,
00:12:03.120 really horrific
00:12:03.960 circumstances,
00:12:05.340 but to see
00:12:06.260 what these families
00:12:07.520 have been able
00:12:08.060 to build
00:12:08.660 surrounding things
00:12:09.500 to help out
00:12:10.040 other families
00:12:10.640 is really remarkable.
00:12:12.820 We swam with
00:12:13.560 a man named
00:12:14.280 Paul DeGelder,
00:12:15.580 who is a double amputee.
00:12:17.980 Actually,
00:12:18.340 now he's a Shark Week host.
00:12:20.440 He's an Australian
00:12:21.260 former Army paratrooper
00:12:23.040 and elite Navy
00:12:24.500 clearance diver
00:12:25.180 who survived
00:12:26.200 a shark attack
00:12:27.400 in 2009,
00:12:28.860 losing his right,
00:12:29.920 I believe,
00:12:30.320 his right hand
00:12:31.100 and leg
00:12:32.100 to a bull shark
00:12:33.120 during a routine
00:12:34.660 counterterrorism exercise
00:12:36.060 in the Sydney Harbor.
00:12:37.920 Let's watch this video.
00:12:38.600 Comes to facing off
00:12:39.940 with the planet's
00:12:40.700 greatest predators.
00:12:42.580 Few are more qualified
00:12:43.700 than shark attack survivor
00:12:45.220 Paul DeGelder.
00:12:46.980 In 2009,
00:12:48.600 I was working
00:12:49.100 with the Australian
00:12:49.760 Navy clearance diving teams.
00:12:51.500 I was doing
00:12:52.000 a counterterrorism exercise
00:12:53.420 in Sydney Harbor
00:12:54.600 right alongside
00:12:55.280 the Navy base.
00:12:56.220 I was swimming
00:12:56.620 from point A
00:12:57.380 to point B.
00:12:58.200 That's it.
00:12:58.680 On the surface,
00:12:59.540 on my back,
00:13:00.180 kicking my legs
00:13:00.800 and all of a sudden,
00:13:02.180 I felt this pressure
00:13:03.220 on my leg
00:13:04.100 and I turned around
00:13:06.820 and came face to face
00:13:08.320 with a massive shark's head.
00:13:12.760 And then my survival
00:13:14.040 instincts kicked in
00:13:15.000 and I thought,
00:13:15.680 I've got to get out
00:13:16.640 of this somehow.
00:13:17.520 And I thought,
00:13:18.160 I've seen shark week, 0.97
00:13:19.200 I'll jab it in the eyeball. 0.99
00:13:21.280 But the shark actually 0.99
00:13:22.420 had my right hand
00:13:23.740 and I couldn't move it.
00:13:25.120 I grabbed it by the nose 0.96
00:13:26.200 and I tried to lever it off me,
00:13:27.760 but that did absolutely nothing.
00:13:29.920 It took me underwater
00:13:31.040 and it just kept shaking me
00:13:32.900 and thrashing me,
00:13:33.940 the teeth soaring
00:13:35.120 through my hand
00:13:36.000 and my leg.
00:13:38.160 The shark,
00:13:39.260 in its infinite power,
00:13:40.940 had almost surgically
00:13:42.040 removed my entire hamstring
00:13:43.620 and ripped off my hand
00:13:44.700 at the same time.
00:13:45.880 My hand was just shredded.
00:13:47.960 From the moment it grabbed me
00:13:49.200 to the moment that I popped up
00:13:50.560 out of the water
00:13:51.120 was only eight seconds.
00:13:52.860 So what do you do
00:13:53.560 when you survive
00:13:54.220 a shark attack
00:13:55.460 that takes your right arm
00:13:56.840 and your right leg?
00:13:57.560 You go back into the water
00:13:59.720 and you swim Alcatraz
00:14:01.060 and you become a host
00:14:02.240 with Shark Week,
00:14:03.240 which is this week,
00:14:04.300 by the way.
00:14:04.700 It feels very timely.
00:14:05.880 Again, another incredible story.
00:14:07.780 How did it go for me?
00:14:09.400 I think this year,
00:14:10.860 comparing it to last year,
00:14:12.680 obviously being this far along
00:14:14.300 in the pregnancy,
00:14:15.700 I felt great.
00:14:16.940 I felt great.
00:14:17.640 If you've watched
00:14:18.220 the episode I made
00:14:19.740 with my husband,
00:14:21.080 I think around 26 weeks pregnant
00:14:22.840 when I announced my pregnancy
00:14:23.880 to the world
00:14:24.800 when I revealed this
00:14:25.780 exciting news,
00:14:26.820 I shared with you all there
00:14:28.400 that I have had virtually
00:14:29.460 no symptoms
00:14:30.400 the entire pregnancy.
00:14:31.800 I have felt awesome,
00:14:33.760 pretty much the exact same
00:14:35.100 as I did pre-pregnancy,
00:14:36.760 pre-conception,
00:14:37.680 but now my pants
00:14:38.600 just don't fit
00:14:39.580 as well as they once did.
00:14:42.360 But otherwise,
00:14:43.400 I've still been able
00:14:44.380 to do everything
00:14:45.180 that I did prior to pregnancy
00:14:46.740 in terms of exercise.
00:14:48.980 I run,
00:14:50.400 I mean,
00:14:50.900 close to 30-ish miles a week,
00:14:53.980 still swimming here and there,
00:14:55.700 still lifting.
00:14:56.820 Doing everything
00:14:57.740 that I can
00:14:58.580 to stay fit
00:14:59.260 and to stay in shape
00:15:00.740 and to make recovery
00:15:01.840 postpartum a breeze.
00:15:03.760 And I think being fit
00:15:05.040 is a large part
00:15:06.440 prior to pregnancy
00:15:07.280 is a large part
00:15:07.900 of why I have felt
00:15:08.780 so great
00:15:09.320 during my pregnancy.
00:15:11.560 So,
00:15:12.660 again,
00:15:13.140 dropped off at the prison
00:15:13.920 probably about like
00:15:15.120 a third of the way in.
00:15:16.400 So let's say
00:15:17.140 you've done
00:15:18.000 close to half a mile
00:15:20.140 at this point.
00:15:22.160 Bear in mind,
00:15:22.960 it's really,
00:15:23.680 really cold.
00:15:24.680 I think the water
00:15:25.860 is around 55 degrees,
00:15:27.820 which doesn't sound
00:15:29.380 too cold
00:15:29.740 in terms of air temperature,
00:15:30.960 but really,
00:15:32.420 really cold
00:15:32.940 when you're in water.
00:15:34.840 So it's around 55 degrees.
00:15:38.180 That's got to be
00:15:38.920 the worst part.
00:15:39.500 More than the sharks,
00:15:40.300 more than the current,
00:15:41.060 more than anything else
00:15:41.860 is just how cold it is.
00:15:43.400 So about a third
00:15:44.040 of the way in,
00:15:45.360 I start getting pretty dizzy.
00:15:47.240 I don't know
00:15:48.000 if it was the current,
00:15:49.680 again,
00:15:49.980 kind of leading you
00:15:50.760 one way
00:15:51.280 all while getting hit
00:15:52.480 with waves
00:15:53.040 that are coming
00:15:53.520 another way.
00:15:54.560 I don't know
00:15:55.260 if it was pregnancy.
00:15:56.160 I talked to my OB
00:15:56.860 about this afterwards.
00:15:58.000 I had an appointment,
00:15:58.720 actually,
00:16:00.780 you know,
00:16:01.000 just a standard
00:16:01.520 routine appointment
00:16:02.240 that you have every,
00:16:03.340 for me,
00:16:03.620 every two weeks
00:16:04.100 at this point.
00:16:04.940 And I told him,
00:16:05.660 you know,
00:16:05.780 I was really dizzy
00:16:06.360 when I was swimming.
00:16:06.980 He was like,
00:16:07.320 well,
00:16:07.880 of course,
00:16:08.220 when you're pregnant,
00:16:08.740 your body carries fluid.
00:16:09.780 You might have
00:16:10.120 some of that in your ears.
00:16:11.100 Having water in your ears,
00:16:12.180 too,
00:16:12.340 could affect,
00:16:12.840 you know,
00:16:13.740 how you're feeling
00:16:14.480 in terms of your balance,
00:16:15.500 being dizzy.
00:16:16.420 So it's very dizzy.
00:16:17.180 So at one point,
00:16:18.160 you know,
00:16:18.740 just incredibly disoriented.
00:16:19.860 I'm like swimming
00:16:20.320 back to the prison.
00:16:21.300 Where am I?
00:16:21.860 I don't know.
00:16:22.680 Got back on track,
00:16:23.840 made it to shore,
00:16:25.880 really with no major problems.
00:16:28.940 About 35 minutes
00:16:31.160 for me to complete this swim.
00:16:33.780 Again,
00:16:34.100 not too bad.
00:16:35.780 But as I alluded to
00:16:36.740 in the intro of this episode,
00:16:38.900 me swimming this event,
00:16:41.820 it wasn't even really
00:16:42.480 like a formal event.
00:16:43.440 It was like
00:16:43.840 just a little gathering
00:16:45.980 that we all decided to do.
00:16:47.260 Okay?
00:16:47.380 It was no formal thing
00:16:48.980 really put together
00:16:50.180 or it was not a race
00:16:51.320 or anything like that.
00:16:52.520 Following this swim
00:16:54.240 that myself
00:16:55.320 and these incredible seals did,
00:16:56.720 my husband actually
00:16:57.520 swam it with us too,
00:16:58.280 by the way,
00:16:59.220 following this,
00:17:00.860 it broke the minds
00:17:02.520 of liberals.
00:17:03.700 The same liberals
00:17:04.420 who are still getting tested
00:17:05.780 for COVID
00:17:06.760 in the year 2025,
00:17:08.380 seriously,
00:17:08.780 by the way,
00:17:09.340 are mad at me
00:17:10.320 for swimming
00:17:11.320 in the San Francisco Bay
00:17:13.600 waters
00:17:14.620 in my third trimester
00:17:15.900 of pregnancy.
00:17:16.500 I posted this
00:17:17.960 to social media.
00:17:19.000 I said,
00:17:19.480 escaped Alcatraz
00:17:20.220 at nearly 31 weeks pregnant.
00:17:21.740 I'm basically just
00:17:22.540 a human submarine 0.98
00:17:23.340 for baby girl,
00:17:24.360 which I thought
00:17:24.920 was kind of funny
00:17:25.540 and that's what I was thinking
00:17:26.640 literally in my head
00:17:27.500 as I was swimming.
00:17:28.180 I'm like,
00:17:28.380 she gets to do this
00:17:29.200 with zero output.
00:17:30.840 I'm like,
00:17:31.300 I'm like her submarine here.
00:17:33.680 But let me read you
00:17:35.140 just a few of the comments
00:17:36.900 that I received
00:17:37.960 following this.
00:17:38.740 Again,
00:17:39.560 it got about
00:17:40.640 77,000 likes.
00:17:42.420 I don't know how many views
00:17:43.120 it's at at this point,
00:17:43.860 but as you can imagine,
00:17:46.080 I mean,
00:17:46.260 tons of support,
00:17:47.080 by the way,
00:17:47.800 people who are,
00:17:49.100 I mean,
00:17:49.680 who expressed
00:17:50.800 how much in awe
00:17:52.580 they were
00:17:53.180 of my willingness,
00:17:55.240 number one,
00:17:55.600 to do this
00:17:56.040 and two,
00:17:56.640 the ability to do this
00:17:57.600 as far along
00:17:58.080 in the pregnancy,
00:17:59.200 but did not stop
00:18:00.280 the haters.
00:18:01.200 This guy says,
00:18:02.120 I guess putting your baby
00:18:03.460 at risk for clicks
00:18:04.560 was a decision.
00:18:05.620 I wonder where
00:18:07.920 he got his doctorate.
00:18:10.720 I didn't know
00:18:11.160 Twitter had so many
00:18:12.020 like OBGYNs 0.99
00:18:14.080 or doctors
00:18:14.800 who suddenly
00:18:15.580 know more about
00:18:16.900 pregnancy
00:18:17.520 and exercising
00:18:18.920 when pregnant
00:18:19.600 than my OB did
00:18:20.700 who cleared me
00:18:21.420 to do this.
00:18:22.680 This person says,
00:18:23.760 maybe not the best time
00:18:24.720 to swim in the ocean.
00:18:26.340 LOL,
00:18:26.840 but what do I know?
00:18:28.600 Nothing.
00:18:29.600 Actually,
00:18:30.000 you know nothing,
00:18:30.720 at least about pregnancy
00:18:31.780 and again,
00:18:32.800 exercising during pregnancy.
00:18:34.360 This person says,
00:18:35.280 why do this
00:18:36.040 when you're pregnant? 0.99
00:18:36.760 Seems dumb, 1.00
00:18:37.540 pointless, 0.99
00:18:37.900 and not worth it.
00:18:40.160 Again,
00:18:40.760 I think I feel so great
00:18:42.560 and I have the entire time
00:18:44.240 because I have done
00:18:45.360 things like this
00:18:46.060 regularly,
00:18:46.960 whether being pregnant
00:18:47.780 or not being pregnant.
00:18:49.560 This person,
00:18:50.560 I like this one,
00:18:51.760 it says,
00:18:52.140 I'm shocked
00:18:52.600 you can still swim
00:18:53.420 given the crippling PTSD
00:18:55.160 you seemingly
00:18:55.980 are suffering from
00:18:56.840 after tying for fifth place.
00:18:58.580 You're so strong.
00:19:00.620 This is so old
00:19:01.680 and tired,
00:19:02.580 but again,
00:19:04.380 in one ear,
00:19:04.920 out the other
00:19:05.760 does not hurt my feelings.
00:19:06.800 I guarantee you
00:19:07.420 this person commented it
00:19:08.340 from their couch.
00:19:13.080 This person says,
00:19:14.240 I'm sure this was worth
00:19:15.160 putting your baby at risk.
00:19:17.220 I love this one.
00:19:18.960 This guy says,
00:19:19.960 this is pretty,
00:19:21.340 this is pretty amazing.
00:19:23.060 He says,
00:19:23.680 imagine the torturous,
00:19:25.100 horrific conditions
00:19:25.820 for the fetus.
00:19:27.460 Breathing.
00:19:28.680 Oh no.
00:19:29.740 Breathing.
00:19:30.780 Muscle squeezing,
00:19:32.120 adrenaline overdosing,
00:19:33.380 massive pressure
00:19:34.040 on the cervix,
00:19:34.960 womb,
00:19:35.300 sac,
00:19:35.600 and fetus.
00:19:36.120 Then the sloshing
00:19:37.160 and incredibly loud noises.
00:19:38.880 Quite the sadistic torture.
00:19:40.380 Hope the fetus survives 1.00
00:19:41.620 the mother's idiocy 1.00
00:19:42.520 to be born healthy. 1.00
00:19:44.060 Poor baby.
00:19:45.280 First of all,
00:19:46.480 my child,
00:19:47.620 my developing child
00:19:48.520 in the womb
00:19:48.960 is not a fetus
00:19:50.900 at this point.
00:19:52.160 It's like,
00:19:52.960 if she were to be born,
00:19:54.700 obviously not ideal
00:19:55.740 to be born nine weeks early.
00:19:58.200 And no one can say
00:19:59.100 what is to,
00:20:00.360 you know,
00:20:00.580 for certain happen.
00:20:02.180 But viability
00:20:03.260 is 24-ish weeks.
00:20:06.220 So to have a baby
00:20:07.080 at 31 weeks,
00:20:07.860 again,
00:20:08.200 not ideal.
00:20:09.040 And I'm sure
00:20:09.360 there are circumstances
00:20:10.120 where it has resulted
00:20:11.640 in not fantastic outcomes.
00:20:13.920 But this is a child.
00:20:15.380 Okay.
00:20:15.740 So this whole fetus thing 0.93
00:20:17.380 is silly. 0.89
00:20:19.560 I mean, 0.99
00:20:20.120 bare minimum,
00:20:21.140 he's aware
00:20:21.760 women have a cervix 1.00
00:20:23.620 and a womb.
00:20:24.720 So that's good news,
00:20:25.860 I guess.
00:20:26.200 But outside of that,
00:20:27.880 he knows less than
00:20:29.420 than nothing about biology.
00:20:30.660 To say
00:20:31.280 the incredibly loud noises,
00:20:34.520 there was nothing loud
00:20:36.940 about being in that water.
00:20:39.680 The muscle squeezing,
00:20:42.280 I think she feels
00:20:42.960 my muscles squeezing
00:20:43.800 more when I cough.
00:20:45.300 Okay.
00:20:46.120 Breathing,
00:20:46.860 you're right.
00:20:47.580 Let me just stop that
00:20:48.340 really quick.
00:20:48.860 Let me just stop breathing.
00:20:49.920 Good idea.
00:20:51.280 Brian,
00:20:52.580 he sounds
00:20:54.000 like he would get winded
00:20:55.260 going up about
00:20:56.340 five steps,
00:20:58.280 five stairs.
00:20:59.540 He sounds
00:21:00.220 incredibly unhealthy.
00:21:01.240 He sounds
00:21:01.880 vaccinated,
00:21:03.720 quite frankly.
00:21:04.780 So that is 0.98
00:21:05.900 just ridiculous. 0.83
00:21:08.380 One of my 0.87
00:21:09.300 favorite things
00:21:10.080 to come out
00:21:10.720 of this
00:21:11.780 situation
00:21:12.680 is this article
00:21:13.760 that the
00:21:14.960 San Francisco
00:21:15.860 Chronicle
00:21:16.600 posted about.
00:21:17.600 I guess
00:21:18.820 this is like
00:21:19.620 a satirical
00:21:21.340 account.
00:21:23.020 The headline is
00:21:23.720 Riley Gaines
00:21:24.520 makes the swim
00:21:25.200 from Alcatraz.
00:21:26.200 Ties for fifth place
00:21:27.300 behind 61-year-old
00:21:28.620 former supervisor
00:21:29.680 Aaron Peskin.
00:21:31.720 Again,
00:21:32.100 kind of funny.
00:21:32.680 Like,
00:21:32.820 I can laugh at this,
00:21:33.820 right?
00:21:34.220 I have a sense of humor
00:21:35.500 unlike the other side.
00:21:38.420 Obviously,
00:21:39.400 this is
00:21:39.820 totally made up.
00:21:41.440 It's a lie,
00:21:41.880 but it caught traction
00:21:42.800 on social media.
00:21:44.500 Nearly 10 million
00:21:45.560 views.
00:21:46.920 10 million
00:21:47.480 people saw this
00:21:48.640 and thought that I tied
00:21:49.620 with whoever
00:21:50.500 Aaron Peskin is,
00:21:51.460 which I went on
00:21:52.240 to find out
00:21:52.660 he was a 61-year-old
00:21:54.680 retired politician
00:21:55.620 who is five foot two.
00:21:57.700 I hope I could
00:21:58.480 take him
00:21:59.320 in a
00:22:00.400 swim
00:22:01.600 of any length,
00:22:02.840 any distance
00:22:03.560 as a Division I
00:22:05.760 athlete.
00:22:06.300 This was funny to me
00:22:07.060 because I think
00:22:07.760 they were, like,
00:22:08.660 owning themselves
00:22:09.380 without ever even
00:22:10.520 knowing that that's
00:22:11.600 what they were doing.
00:22:13.120 Number one,
00:22:13.880 the implication being
00:22:14.740 that something is
00:22:15.400 wrong with fifth place.
00:22:17.580 Again,
00:22:18.300 when they allude
00:22:19.020 to Riley getting
00:22:20.040 fifth place,
00:22:20.900 it's fifth
00:22:21.500 in the entire country.
00:22:23.600 Didn't go
00:22:24.520 my best time
00:22:25.800 when I placed fifth,
00:22:27.920 but nonetheless,
00:22:28.920 it's a feat
00:22:29.260 that I'm incredibly
00:22:29.800 proud of.
00:22:30.480 And those four women 1.00
00:22:31.140 who beat me
00:22:31.780 are phenoms,
00:22:32.980 are superstars,
00:22:33.840 are the best of the best,
00:22:35.000 are all Americans.
00:22:36.440 Some of them
00:22:37.120 are Olympians,
00:22:38.520 Olympic medalists,
00:22:39.400 okay?
00:22:39.600 Like,
00:22:40.220 they're phenoms
00:22:41.600 in their sport.
00:22:42.540 They're world-class
00:22:43.540 athletes.
00:22:44.340 So to be able
00:22:45.560 to even be in contention,
00:22:47.880 that be in the same field
00:22:49.120 as those women,
00:22:50.960 is something that
00:22:52.060 I'll forever be proud of,
00:22:53.400 no matter what people
00:22:54.400 like Keith Olbermann say.
00:22:57.240 And again,
00:22:57.880 to prove the point
00:22:58.540 that I think
00:22:59.700 with this headline
00:23:00.380 that the San Francisco
00:23:01.200 Chronicle put out,
00:23:02.900 that men are just
00:23:04.220 inherently better
00:23:05.280 swimmers
00:23:06.040 due to their
00:23:07.600 genetic
00:23:08.680 musculature,
00:23:09.920 their stature,
00:23:11.560 their wingspan,
00:23:12.700 their heart size,
00:23:14.220 their lung size,
00:23:14.980 right?
00:23:15.140 Like,
00:23:15.340 all of the different
00:23:15.960 scientific things
00:23:16.660 that go into it.
00:23:18.760 That's the point
00:23:19.580 I've been trying to make.
00:23:21.180 Again,
00:23:21.780 I think I could beat
00:23:22.680 Aaron Peskin,
00:23:23.840 whoever that is,
00:23:24.960 but nonetheless,
00:23:26.040 on average,
00:23:26.880 especially when we're
00:23:27.500 talking about
00:23:28.000 at the same
00:23:28.800 competitive level,
00:23:29.940 like,
00:23:30.140 if you have
00:23:30.440 the world record
00:23:31.340 200 backstroke
00:23:33.420 swimmer
00:23:34.360 in the men's division
00:23:35.740 competing against
00:23:36.780 the world record
00:23:37.560 200 backstroke holder
00:23:38.760 in the women's division,
00:23:39.720 obviously you know
00:23:40.720 who,
00:23:41.900 what time
00:23:42.580 is faster here,
00:23:43.680 who would win
00:23:44.280 in a race.
00:23:45.100 So this is kind of
00:23:45.800 proof that men
00:23:46.340 don't belong in
00:23:46.860 women's sports,
00:23:47.880 but the San Francisco
00:23:49.180 Chronicle is 1.00
00:23:50.080 simply too stupid 1.00
00:23:51.420 to know that. 1.00
00:23:53.160 So,
00:23:53.780 it was fun fielding
00:23:54.740 all of the
00:23:56.460 nastiness 0.74
00:23:58.060 that comes with it.
00:23:59.640 Will I swim it
00:24:00.500 again next year?
00:24:01.820 Absolutely.
00:24:02.300 God willing
00:24:04.080 that I'm healthy.
00:24:05.580 Baby girl
00:24:06.280 will be in tote.
00:24:07.520 Obviously,
00:24:08.000 she will be
00:24:08.600 on the boat
00:24:09.660 swimming
00:24:11.280 or coming back
00:24:12.220 to shore
00:24:12.540 on the boat
00:24:12.960 where I will be
00:24:14.100 swimming in the water.
00:24:15.760 So,
00:24:16.240 hopefully next year
00:24:17.380 we can make
00:24:17.980 some more people
00:24:18.880 angry.
00:24:19.860 Again,
00:24:20.360 one of my
00:24:20.800 favorite pastimes.
00:24:23.240 And I,
00:24:23.560 of course,
00:24:24.060 I still agree
00:24:24.640 with President Trump
00:24:26.400 in the fact that
00:24:27.460 Alcatraz
00:24:28.020 should be
00:24:29.160 rebuilt.
00:24:30.620 It should be
00:24:31.320 a place that
00:24:32.700 again,
00:24:33.220 houses the worst
00:24:33.940 of the worst,
00:24:34.500 the most violent
00:24:35.040 as he says
00:24:35.780 in his true social
00:24:36.600 that he put out.
00:24:37.680 People who are
00:24:38.260 roaming our streets
00:24:39.000 causing mayhem,
00:24:40.240 destruction,
00:24:41.280 bloodshed.
00:24:42.140 Those are the people
00:24:42.800 who deserve to be
00:24:43.560 in Alcatraz,
00:24:44.400 both in the Bay
00:24:45.340 and in Florida
00:24:46.680 in Alligator Alcatraz.
00:24:48.420 Maybe we can work
00:24:49.140 on my idea
00:24:49.940 of having something
00:24:51.000 in Antarctica
00:24:52.340 surrounded by
00:24:54.180 polar bears.
00:24:55.020 There's a,
00:24:57.180 like a,
00:24:59.100 like a theory
00:25:00.060 out there,
00:25:00.600 these prisoners
00:25:01.140 that escaped
00:25:02.480 or did they escape?
00:25:03.540 That's the bigger
00:25:04.220 question I think here.
00:25:05.680 Let's look at that
00:25:06.400 really quick.
00:25:07.780 Again,
00:25:08.040 Alcatraz,
00:25:08.460 remember,
00:25:08.740 it was built
00:25:09.140 to be inescapable.
00:25:10.540 It's a mile and a half
00:25:11.240 about off the shore,
00:25:12.600 freezing cold waters,
00:25:13.660 shark infested waters.
00:25:14.760 They've got great whites 0.89
00:25:15.440 apparently there,
00:25:16.560 deadly ocean currents.
00:25:19.120 They've got armed guards
00:25:19.900 in every single tower.
00:25:20.740 And for years,
00:25:22.120 no one did escape
00:25:22.960 until 1962.
00:25:26.260 Again,
00:25:26.740 this is the most famous
00:25:28.600 prison break story
00:25:30.620 in history.
00:25:32.780 It's how some of the most,
00:25:33.920 you think of the people
00:25:34.780 that Alcatraz
00:25:35.400 in its past has,
00:25:37.940 has housed,
00:25:39.120 I guess if that's the word
00:25:40.020 you want to use.
00:25:41.100 Al Capone,
00:25:42.240 Machine Gun Kelly,
00:25:43.240 Robert Stroud,
00:25:43.900 again, 0.98
00:25:44.080 really dangerous criminals.
00:25:46.000 But there were three men
00:25:47.340 who took it upon themselves
00:25:49.340 to defy
00:25:50.420 these odds
00:25:51.400 that Alcatraz
00:25:52.040 was inescapable.
00:25:53.220 One of them being
00:25:53.960 Frank Morris.
00:25:54.720 The thing about Frank Morris
00:25:55.660 is allegedly
00:25:56.880 he was like a genius
00:25:58.180 with an IQ of
00:25:59.380 I think 130,
00:26:00.980 135,
00:26:01.840 something in that realm.
00:26:03.060 And he had a history
00:26:04.180 of jailbreaks.
00:26:05.400 Then you had
00:26:06.120 two other men.
00:26:07.700 These were brothers,
00:26:08.920 Josh Englund
00:26:09.760 and Clarence Englund.
00:26:11.020 They were both
00:26:11.560 skilled swimmers
00:26:12.620 of the bunch.
00:26:14.520 They had a fourth inmate,
00:26:16.120 I believe,
00:26:16.640 who was attempting
00:26:18.060 to help them
00:26:19.060 with this prison break,
00:26:20.020 but he didn't actually
00:26:20.700 make it out.
00:26:22.600 So what they were
00:26:23.640 going to do,
00:26:24.140 number one,
00:26:24.540 they created this
00:26:25.240 meticulous plan
00:26:26.000 where they were going
00:26:26.500 to dig an escape route.
00:26:28.100 They did this
00:26:29.000 using stolen spoons,
00:26:31.000 makeshift tools,
00:26:31.820 they chipped away
00:26:32.480 at their air vents
00:26:33.720 in their cells
00:26:34.880 and then they made
00:26:35.600 these decoys.
00:26:36.660 So they crafted
00:26:37.460 these lifelike
00:26:38.540 dummy heads
00:26:39.660 from soap, 0.98
00:26:40.700 from cement dust.
00:26:42.240 One of the things
00:26:42.840 they would do is,
00:26:43.680 of course,
00:26:44.140 these prisons,
00:26:44.800 you know,
00:26:45.000 the inmates
00:26:45.760 can have jobs.
00:26:47.120 One of them
00:26:47.780 is the prison barber.
00:26:49.780 They have a barbershop
00:26:50.440 in the prison
00:26:50.820 for the inmates
00:26:51.380 to get their hair cut.
00:26:52.360 They would take
00:26:53.020 the real human hair
00:26:54.220 from the prison barbershop
00:26:56.180 to create
00:26:57.440 these decoys.
00:26:58.800 So when the decoy,
00:26:59.960 so when they decided
00:27:00.500 they would ultimately
00:27:01.060 break out,
00:27:01.780 they would leave their cell,
00:27:02.660 they would put this decoy
00:27:03.380 in their bed
00:27:04.000 or at nights
00:27:05.180 when they were going
00:27:06.040 to work on their,
00:27:07.500 again,
00:27:07.780 the plan that they
00:27:08.740 were devising,
00:27:09.720 they'd put the decoy
00:27:10.320 in the bed,
00:27:10.820 they would have
00:27:11.120 real human hair.
00:27:12.240 So when guards
00:27:12.740 walked by,
00:27:13.220 it looked like
00:27:13.640 they were asleep
00:27:14.340 in their bed.
00:27:15.520 Then they built,
00:27:16.420 the next step
00:27:16.960 was to build a raft.
00:27:18.300 They stitched together,
00:27:19.620 I think it was
00:27:20.060 over 50 raincoats.
00:27:21.760 They sealed them
00:27:22.500 with heat
00:27:23.200 to form a watertight
00:27:24.840 escape raft.
00:27:27.140 And I think
00:27:28.000 the final step here
00:27:29.360 was to find
00:27:30.120 the perfect exit.
00:27:31.860 They located a vent
00:27:33.320 that led to the roof
00:27:35.360 that was unguarded,
00:27:37.120 apparently,
00:27:37.720 and barely noticed.
00:27:39.100 And every night
00:27:39.820 at 930,
00:27:40.940 during,
00:27:41.280 I think they had
00:27:41.920 this thing called
00:27:42.320 music hour.
00:27:43.760 They would use
00:27:44.540 that noise
00:27:45.140 during music hour
00:27:46.060 to cover the sound
00:27:47.100 of their digging
00:27:47.840 and slowly but surely
00:27:48.940 they carved a hole
00:27:49.980 big enough to crawl
00:27:51.300 through into an
00:27:52.720 unguarded maintenance
00:27:53.780 corridor.
00:27:55.040 And then,
00:27:55.820 on this night in June
00:27:56.920 in 1962,
00:27:58.460 about 930 p.m.,
00:28:00.280 Morris and the 0.74
00:28:01.500 two Anglin brothers,
00:28:02.500 they climbed
00:28:03.220 through their escape tunnel,
00:28:04.580 they made their way
00:28:05.300 to the roof
00:28:05.920 via the plumbing pipes,
00:28:07.520 they used a
00:28:08.000 homemade wrench
00:28:08.780 crafted from a bed frame
00:28:10.140 to remove the rooftop vent.
00:28:12.380 They descended,
00:28:13.960 crossed the yard,
00:28:14.880 scaled,
00:28:15.200 I think,
00:28:15.400 a 15-foot fence,
00:28:17.260 reached the shoreline.
00:28:18.240 They inflated the raft,
00:28:19.700 they vanished
00:28:20.380 into the dark bay.
00:28:23.840 I think the fourth member
00:28:25.040 who I was telling you about
00:28:25.920 who worked with them
00:28:27.000 on this plan,
00:28:27.780 he couldn't widen
00:28:28.720 his hole in time,
00:28:30.200 so he got left behind.
00:28:32.260 It wasn't until
00:28:33.840 the next morning,
00:28:34.760 so again,
00:28:35.020 that's around 9 p.m.
00:28:35.980 at night,
00:28:36.280 it wasn't until
00:28:36.740 the next morning
00:28:37.420 that the guards
00:28:38.480 discovered the fake heads,
00:28:40.700 again,
00:28:41.080 with the real human hair,
00:28:42.380 and that's when Alcatraz
00:28:43.020 went into full lockdown.
00:28:46.200 Army,
00:28:46.860 FBI,
00:28:47.440 Coast Guard,
00:28:47.860 they launched
00:28:48.220 this massive search,
00:28:49.920 but what they found
00:28:51.300 was pretty chilling.
00:28:53.160 In the days following,
00:28:53.960 they found a homemade paddle
00:28:54.980 floating near Angel Island,
00:28:56.700 which is likely
00:28:58.100 the destination
00:28:58.700 that they were trying
00:28:59.360 to reach.
00:28:59.760 They found a waterproof bag.
00:29:02.380 This had some of
00:29:03.200 their personal items
00:29:03.980 like family photos.
00:29:05.420 It had a list
00:29:05.940 of phone numbers,
00:29:07.260 a letter actually
00:29:08.700 to Clarence Anglin
00:29:09.660 was washed ashore.
00:29:11.980 They found life vests
00:29:13.300 with bite marks
00:29:14.700 that were discovered
00:29:15.440 90 meters from Alcatraz.
00:29:17.980 The list goes on
00:29:19.100 of the different things
00:29:20.560 that they found,
00:29:21.280 so what happened to them?
00:29:23.340 That's the question.
00:29:24.320 Theory number one
00:29:24.860 is that they drowned.
00:29:26.820 Probably the most likely,
00:29:28.400 if I had to guess,
00:29:30.180 again,
00:29:31.560 just having done it twice
00:29:32.760 at this point,
00:29:33.980 how cold it is,
00:29:35.300 you can only imagine
00:29:36.400 that these prisoners
00:29:37.420 were probably malnourished.
00:29:39.480 I swam with a wetsuit,
00:29:40.960 which keeps you
00:29:42.160 a little more insulated,
00:29:44.660 but being,
00:29:45.680 I would imagine,
00:29:46.180 very skinny,
00:29:47.580 one of the men
00:29:49.220 was not a skilled swimmer.
00:29:51.860 That's why I believe
00:29:53.120 they probably drowned,
00:29:55.020 but again,
00:29:56.800 hasn't been proved
00:29:57.340 because the bodies
00:29:57.820 were never,
00:29:58.180 they've never been found.
00:29:59.840 Theory number two
00:30:00.560 is they escaped
00:30:01.240 and fled to South America.
00:30:02.720 This is what a lot
00:30:03.260 of people think.
00:30:05.380 Apparently,
00:30:06.020 the mom of the Anglin brothers
00:30:08.240 received anonymous roses,
00:30:10.560 flowers,
00:30:11.220 delivered to her house
00:30:12.180 for years.
00:30:14.060 She passed away in 1973,
00:30:15.540 and it's rumored
00:30:16.680 that the two brothers
00:30:17.620 attended her funeral
00:30:18.580 in disguise.
00:30:20.100 So that's pretty crazy.
00:30:22.980 But again,
00:30:24.240 we don't know
00:30:24.780 the conclusion
00:30:25.580 to this day.
00:30:26.960 We don't know,
00:30:28.380 but what,
00:30:28.960 I think we can conclude,
00:30:30.300 it's likely they died,
00:30:31.960 but again,
00:30:32.760 the escape
00:30:33.220 was absolutely possible
00:30:34.880 as proven
00:30:35.560 by this 31-week
00:30:36.960 pregnant woman,
00:30:38.700 twice now
00:30:39.540 at this point.
00:30:40.080 So I think
00:30:42.440 if they were still alive,
00:30:43.240 they'd be
00:30:43.780 in their 90s
00:30:45.260 now.
00:30:46.360 So I believe
00:30:47.460 the case will remain
00:30:48.300 open until they
00:30:49.240 are confirmed dead,
00:30:50.160 if they are confirmed dead,
00:30:51.320 or until they turn
00:30:52.760 99 years old.
00:30:55.220 So nobody knows
00:30:56.220 if they've made it.
00:30:57.260 The question of Clay Travis,
00:30:59.040 this is something
00:30:59.580 that he's been boasting in.
00:31:01.020 Clay thinks he could make it.
00:31:02.240 I tried to invite him
00:31:03.160 this year
00:31:03.660 to swim
00:31:04.240 with me
00:31:05.180 and with
00:31:05.580 these Navy SEALs.
00:31:06.800 Clay declined.
00:31:09.720 I don't know
00:31:10.040 if he declined.
00:31:10.640 I think he was busy
00:31:11.420 with other stuff going on.
00:31:12.920 Do I think
00:31:13.620 Clay Travis
00:31:14.400 could escape Alcatraz?
00:31:16.580 No.
00:31:17.660 No, I don't.
00:31:18.860 I think it takes
00:31:19.580 a certain level
00:31:21.220 of skill
00:31:23.080 to be able to,
00:31:25.360 again,
00:31:25.840 conquer not just
00:31:26.540 the cold,
00:31:27.300 the current,
00:31:28.180 the waves
00:31:28.660 that are pulling you
00:31:29.420 one direction,
00:31:30.380 waves are hitting you
00:31:31.140 another direction,
00:31:32.020 and I just don't think
00:31:33.620 Clay Travis has that.
00:31:35.280 Could he?
00:31:35.760 If he started training,
00:31:37.740 sure,
00:31:38.680 maybe.
00:31:39.520 If a water wing company
00:31:41.560 sponsored his show,
00:31:43.280 his radio show,
00:31:44.340 I think he can make it.
00:31:45.820 But as it stands now,
00:31:46.880 I don't know, Clay.
00:31:47.640 He says he's going
00:31:48.300 to do it next year.
00:31:49.220 I'm going to hold him
00:31:50.020 to that
00:31:50.440 because I think
00:31:52.000 this should be like,
00:31:53.600 you know,
00:31:53.780 we should do like
00:31:54.200 a charity event
00:31:54.900 surrounding this.
00:31:56.260 The winner gets to,
00:31:58.280 or I guess the loser
00:31:59.300 should have to put up money
00:32:00.340 to the charity
00:32:01.620 of the other person's choosing.
00:32:03.800 So Clay,
00:32:04.700 Clay's made bets before,
00:32:05.640 about,
00:32:06.000 you know,
00:32:07.520 high school boys
00:32:08.820 basketball players.
00:32:10.820 If they could beat
00:32:11.820 one WNBA team 0.91
00:32:13.640 in a game,
00:32:15.280 $100,000.
00:32:16.640 If any man
00:32:17.640 who would go on
00:32:18.440 to play in the WNBA,
00:32:19.500 just unironically,
00:32:20.320 like as a man
00:32:20.940 declare himself
00:32:21.460 to be a woman
00:32:21.920 to play in the WNBA,
00:32:23.560 he'd win a certain
00:32:24.300 amount of money.
00:32:24.780 So Clay likes
00:32:25.260 making these bets.
00:32:26.060 So consider this
00:32:27.520 my,
00:32:28.640 my,
00:32:29.300 my wager to Clay.
00:32:31.480 a charity event
00:32:33.260 swimming Alcatraz.
00:32:34.660 I don't think
00:32:35.620 Clay Travis
00:32:36.300 could make it,
00:32:37.440 but we will see
00:32:38.380 next year.
00:32:40.700 As always,
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