Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - August 02, 2023


RILEY GAINES PODCAST： Why Don't More People Care about Women's Sports？


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Macy Petty is a volleyball player at Lee University in South Carolina. She talks about growing up in a male-dominated household and how she found her way into volleyball. She also talks about the challenges of being a female student-athlete in college and dealing with the politics that comes with it.

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00:00:30.000 Welcome back to the Gains for Girls podcast.
00:00:36.280 This next guest, she's someone who is truly brave.
00:00:40.380 That word gets tossed around a lot,
00:00:41.900 but she's someone who is actually an NCAA athlete now. 0.83
00:00:46.540 She hasn't graduated.
00:00:47.840 She's still dealing with the administration from universities
00:00:51.120 and the politics that comes with it.
00:00:52.920 And I'm so, so excited to have her on.
00:00:54.980 Her name is Macy Petty.
00:00:56.180 She's a volleyball player at Lee University.
00:00:58.500 And here's our interview.
00:01:00.000 Macy, it is so, so good to be seeing you again.
00:01:05.800 We have been involved in the same circle for a while now.
00:01:09.680 And of course, both advocating for what we're advocating for,
00:01:13.200 whether that's in DC, whether that's at the state level.
00:01:17.620 And you are someone who has just ultimately inspired me.
00:01:22.000 Would you mind giving the listeners a little bit of info about you?
00:01:25.560 Um, what sports you played, you know, are you still playing?
00:01:30.300 Fill us in.
00:01:30.800 Yeah, absolutely.
00:01:32.460 Riley, it's so good to see you again.
00:01:34.560 It's, it's been a couple of weeks.
00:01:35.900 It's crazy.
00:01:36.480 We used to see each other all the time, but, um, yeah, it's been such a blessing being able to,
00:01:41.280 uh, do this and advocate with you and, and link arms in this way.
00:01:45.580 It's been so fun.
00:01:46.660 Um, so yeah, just a little bit of background about me.
00:01:49.760 I am an NCAA volleyball player.
00:01:51.660 I caught the volleyball bug back in middle school.
00:01:55.520 I loved it.
00:01:56.580 I knew that I was willing to sacrifice whatever I needed to, to be able to continue my volleyball
00:02:01.440 career into college.
00:02:02.700 So I'm sure you had the similar experience, you know, not being able to go to prom, not
00:02:07.820 going on all these fancy vacations, uh, but instead going to different volleyball tournaments
00:02:12.340 and hoping to catch some recruiters eyes.
00:02:15.400 Cause that's where they go to scout out, uh, the talent.
00:02:18.300 And so at one of these volleyball tournaments, I got there and I looked at the other team.
00:02:23.960 This was in high school.
00:02:24.720 So this was probably four or five years ago.
00:02:26.720 Cause I'm going into my senior year now.
00:02:28.140 And I look across and there was a boy on the other team, um, very obviously male, um, not
00:02:34.640 wearing volleyball spandex or anything like that.
00:02:37.080 And I was really confused because, um, I didn't sign up to be in a co-ed league.
00:02:41.620 This was supposed to be a female only league.
00:02:43.300 And the boy teams were on the other side of the convention center.
00:02:46.260 And so I was honestly just really confused.
00:02:49.960 Like this wasn't really a thing people were talking about yet.
00:02:52.640 And there were all these college recruiters around who were evaluating our skills, the
00:02:57.200 things that we'd been working on for years.
00:02:59.620 And, um, so we, we played the game and this athlete was just slamming the ball on our face
00:03:04.460 left and right.
00:03:05.080 And that's what the recruiters were seeing.
00:03:06.760 And something really specific about volleyball is that men's nets are over seven inches higher
00:03:12.420 than female nets, which is crazy, uh, to think about, um, playing on a net over seven inches 1.00
00:03:18.080 shorter than you should be, um, because of your biological advantage.
00:03:22.280 And so I was going to say, it's almost as if they're acknowledging that men can jump higher
00:03:26.740 that, that right there shows you that they know.
00:03:29.040 Right.
00:03:29.840 Right.
00:03:30.160 And the fact, I mean, you can take this back, even like the fact that sports are separated
00:03:34.240 to begin with, but, but they reflect our bodies.
00:03:37.840 Right.
00:03:38.140 And so that's why a male net has to be, uh, has to be higher than a female net because
00:03:43.000 their biological advantage.
00:03:44.940 Um, but despite that, this athlete was, that was playing on this net and it was really embarrassing.
00:03:48.940 And, um, my team and I just kind of assumed that somebody was going to speak at like USAV
00:03:55.320 or JVA, one of these associations, wasn't going to let this happen again.
00:04:00.360 Um, and I was wrong.
00:04:02.240 I went into my college career, even my freshman year, I got a phone call and they, somebody
00:04:07.720 was asking me to testify for girls sports in South Carolina.
00:04:10.580 And I was so confused.
00:04:11.580 I was like, why do we, why do we need to testify that boys and girls sports should be separated
00:04:17.360 by sex?
00:04:18.580 Um, it just didn't make sense to me.
00:04:20.120 I was like, sure, you know, why not?
00:04:22.000 And I did.
00:04:22.880 And they didn't even pass it.
00:04:24.220 They said this, this isn't a real issue.
00:04:26.220 You know, this isn't pressing.
00:04:27.280 You're kind of just making things to complain about whatever.
00:04:30.220 And I was like, well, this is absurd.
00:04:32.440 Um, so that's when I got involved with young women for America and which is a collegiate.
00:04:37.720 Project of concern women for America and started advocating for them and was actually at the
00:04:44.140 NCAA national championship where, uh, you tied with Leah Thomas.
00:04:48.960 And so we were protesting that and I was able to speak to a lot of the female athletes there
00:04:53.900 and the parents and, and just really, um, just put myself in this new perspective of
00:04:59.480 like, this is really happening and people aren't speaking up for the female athletes.
00:05:03.820 And so I was able to kind of, uh, amplify my voice and take it to the next level with
00:05:07.820 Concerned Women for America and start testifying in more state legislatures and get involved, 0.71
00:05:12.780 uh, here in DC with Congress and, and different members of Congress, which was very cool and
00:05:18.160 quite the ride ever since.
00:05:19.400 And so, uh, that's kind of where we are now.
00:05:22.200 Well, you're, you, yeah, you actually are in DC right now, aren't you?
00:05:25.780 Um, you're returning with, um, heritage, that's amazing.
00:05:30.780 Um, the way you acknowledge the problem and you question it, right?
00:05:34.780 You're like, is this really happening?
00:05:36.600 I think that's very natural when we're discussing something so basic and really so common sense.
00:05:42.120 We do ask ourselves the question of, is this, are we really having a conversation about what
00:05:47.120 it is to be man versus woman?
00:05:48.920 Right.
00:05:49.520 And so we need something about it, which is, which is, as you mentioned, it's more than
00:05:53.900 the men in our society are doing.
00:05:56.100 It's more, it's a heck of a lot more than the feminists are doing. 1.00
00:06:00.140 Um, and so I couldn't be more grateful for your saying, and as I mentioned, you really
00:06:03.620 are someone who's an inspiration to me.
00:06:05.940 Um, which is, it's wild to say that, that it's inspirational to say men and women are different,
00:06:12.660 but really.
00:06:13.520 It's crazy because you're at NCAA and, you know, the presidential administration or, or
00:06:19.520 like I said, USAV, JVA, these other organizations, you know, somebody would be putting a stop
00:06:25.100 to this, but no, you know, it's, it's unfortunately come up to, um, to us and for female athletes
00:06:30.740 to speak up for themselves because these organizations aren't just, you know, not speaking up for
00:06:35.740 us, but actively trying to silence us.
00:06:37.620 So it's crazy.
00:06:39.120 You mentioned you, you had some conversations, um, with the parents, with the female athletes
00:06:45.500 themselves at that national championships where Leah Thomas was of course competing.
00:06:50.480 Um, can you provide any insight as, as to what these parents, what, what message were they
00:06:55.520 relaying back to you?
00:06:56.620 Is this something they were okay with?
00:06:58.140 Is this something that, um, that bothered them?
00:07:01.180 What, what kind of message were you getting?
00:07:03.580 Honestly, just the, the feeling overall was just heartbroken.
00:07:07.720 You know, they, they watched their daughters wake up at 4am and, and sacrifice so much
00:07:14.340 and give so much of who they are to this sport to get to this day, to this moment.
00:07:19.280 And, you know, they had to have been so proud as parents to see, um, their daughters just
00:07:23.800 get the unbelievable achievement of even making it to the national championship.
00:07:27.860 Um, but then they had to sit in the stands and, and watch a man steal the national championship.
00:07:33.940 And then I cannot imagine what it must've felt like to see their daughters walk into that
00:07:39.640 locker room.
00:07:40.320 Um, so, and we were standing out there and there were so many tears of girls.
00:07:45.220 Um, it's one thing to lose a national championship, but it's another thing to have it downright stolen
00:07:50.140 from you because of somebody who's cheating and not playing by the rules.
00:07:53.720 Um, and so, but it was, it was another thing to speak to the parents and just hear their
00:07:59.300 gratitude that somebody was speaking out because I know that, um, a lot of these girls were
00:08:03.880 being threatened by their schools.
00:08:05.040 And so I'm sure it was, it was good for these parents to see that there were female athletes 0.76
00:08:09.440 who, uh, were able to use their voice and, and put, try to put a stop for this at the
00:08:13.540 beginning.
00:08:15.080 Absolutely.
00:08:15.740 Well, I can tell you again, from my experience, when, when this was the first time we became,
00:08:20.440 at least myself, right, I didn't know this really existed.
00:08:23.700 I actually had heard of this whole trans issue in sports, but it was going the other way.
00:08:27.640 I heard of women who were transitioning to men and competing with the men.
00:08:31.340 And while, of course I, I didn't, I didn't understand, um, it didn't make sense to me.
00:08:36.160 I didn't see ultimately a huge problem with it because it, it, it didn't affect anyone in
00:08:41.580 a way that someone's opportunities were jeopardized.
00:08:44.100 Um, and so, so that's the only way I had become aware of this, but when it happened to us and
00:08:48.380 we were directly impacted by the whole Leah Thomas thing, and we were able to see you
00:08:52.600 guys on the ground with your signs supporting, that was huge for me.
00:08:59.300 Provide perspective for people who, who, you know, they, they say it's, it's not about the
00:09:04.600 trophy.
00:09:04.980 It's not about winning.
00:09:05.800 So what?
00:09:06.200 You didn't get the top spot on the podium where you lost your scholarship.
00:09:09.440 And I agree, right?
00:09:10.740 Life isn't about winning.
00:09:11.860 It's, it's not merely about holding the tangible object of the trophy, but there is so much
00:09:17.640 more value to sports that people don't realize that, especially if you've never played sports,
00:09:22.780 um, there is so much more than athletic achievement.
00:09:25.520 And so can you kind of provide perspective on, at least for you, the, the transferable skills
00:09:31.980 you develop, the relationships you develop and what that looks like and how it really
00:09:35.600 is more than just winning.
00:09:37.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:09:39.520 I, um, have definitely learned all kinds of things that I wouldn't have apart from, apart
00:09:45.000 from sports and some of those things I'm just now realizing now that I'm entering my professional
00:09:49.280 career, you know, there's things like working together as a team for a common goal or being
00:09:54.760 able to communicate and, and overcome, um, different trials and miscommunications and, and different
00:10:01.220 things like that.
00:10:01.760 Those are all things that you have to learn when you're on a team and you're, you're fighting
00:10:05.540 for the similar goal.
00:10:07.040 I was even talking to my dad last night and I was so scared because I was talking to him.
00:10:11.100 I was like, dad, I have to figure out how to get a full-time job soon.
00:10:14.040 I'm going to have to make all these phone calls and write all these emails.
00:10:16.160 And I was like, wait a minute, this feels a lot like my recruiting process for four and
00:10:20.160 a half years ago.
00:10:21.480 And so even just some of those really specific, um, transferable skills that are paying off
00:10:27.320 totally long-term and I'm sure we'll continue to pay off.
00:10:30.280 Um, I'm, there's some statistic out there that blows my mind every time about how most
00:10:34.440 of the top executives that are women played sports and it totally makes sense.
00:10:38.560 It gives you this sense of confidence and what it really means to work really, really
00:10:43.920 hard for something.
00:10:44.760 And so going into a little bit of a different perspective, you think about people even like
00:10:50.000 you who worked so hard for this goal, but then had someone able to steal it away just
00:10:56.100 because of his biological sex and because he was allowed to exempt from the rules.
00:11:00.640 So I would like to ask those people what that's telling these women and these girls, um, about
00:11:06.240 their place in society and what, what that means for a man to be able to so easily steal something
00:11:11.620 from a woman.
00:11:12.200 And, um, I don't know, it's, it's very interesting to me that, that that's not being talked about.
00:11:17.660 Well, I love that you mentioned that because it really changes the frame of the argument
00:11:22.160 because a lot of the left, again, I, this issue has become political, right?
00:11:26.560 Uh, it's I'm, I'm general generalizing when I say the left, because at the state and federal
00:11:31.640 level, it is the left who's opposing this, but the left, they say our argument is anti trans,
00:11:36.520 but the way you've just described it about, about what about us, I think that's so powerful
00:11:42.180 as women.
00:11:42.860 What about us?
00:11:43.420 It doesn't, it doesn't, it's, it's not anti trans.
00:11:46.580 It really is a pro woman argument.
00:11:48.700 And the way that this, this, again, the left had once embraced the feminist movement and
00:11:55.840 now they're doing everything they can to deny women of opportunities and of safe spaces and
00:12:02.420 locker rooms and changing spaces and prisons and sororities and, and the list goes on.
00:12:07.160 It really is a pro woman argument, isn't it? 0.97
00:12:10.440 It is.
00:12:10.940 It is.
00:12:11.720 And first I would like to clarify that this is, has never, and will never be about excluding
00:12:17.060 trans athletes who identify as transgender from sports at all.
00:12:20.480 I think that everyone should have an equal opportunity at pursuing sports, but just because
00:12:24.760 you identify as transgender, you're not exempt from, from basic rules of the game that you
00:12:29.100 have to play according to your sex. 0.99
00:12:30.460 Um, but, uh, specifically about feminism in general, um, I'm a big believer that men
00:12:36.660 and women are different, um, not just biologically, but who we are and how we're created. 1.00
00:12:41.640 And, uh, I think that's something that the feminist movement has lacked these past several 0.99
00:12:45.360 decades, um, and honoring what it means to be a woman and the fact that we are different
00:12:50.140 from men and man, is that manifesting now when, when they're trying to keep this single
00:12:54.280 standard, even when it comes to sports, because we know men and women aren't different.
00:12:58.020 And that is very, uh, evident in sports.
00:13:00.580 And that doesn't mean that one is better than the other by any means, but we need to create
00:13:05.320 spaces where they can both flourish.
00:13:07.260 And that only happens when you let men play against men and women play against other women. 0.95
00:13:12.980 Absolutely.
00:13:13.920 Um, Macy, I recently, I recently saw you in the news for, for something a little different
00:13:19.880 than what, what I typically see you on Fox news on or Fox news for.
00:13:24.000 So would you kind of fill up, fill us in on what you were doing on Fox and what you were
00:13:28.960 talking about?
00:13:30.060 Um, because I was incredibly interested to hear this.
00:13:33.060 Yeah, that was, that was a new one for me too.
00:13:35.440 I, uh, I'd never used this, this new AI technology.
00:13:39.420 Right.
00:13:39.880 And so, um, yeah, after I started speaking out about it, I got some phone calls from professors
00:13:44.540 saying, I better not start using it when I get back to school.
00:13:46.940 But I, I was kind of playing around with it and I had seen a reel from the night before
00:13:51.460 that was, it was talking about how, um, we need to embrace this new technology because
00:13:56.760 if you don't, you're going to quickly fall behind.
00:13:58.620 And, and so I was like, you know what, I'm going to try it.
00:14:00.680 And I was, I was, it was a national women's sports week.
00:14:03.140 And so I was trying to compile all of these thoughts into one tweet and make it be under
00:14:07.660 the character limit.
00:14:08.380 And so I, I asked chat GPT to, to shorten it for me and, and create this tweet that'll be
00:14:13.520 within the limits.
00:14:14.300 And it came back and kind of gave me a slap on the wrist and saying, you know, we're not
00:14:18.040 going to promote exclusivity.
00:14:19.860 We need to be inclusive.
00:14:20.960 And so, um, I'm not going to do that.
00:14:23.360 It wouldn't even consider helping, you know, formulate this tweet.
00:14:27.200 And so it was crazy to me.
00:14:28.980 Um, I, I mentioned it on that, on that Fox, uh, interview, but as female athletes, you 0.99
00:14:34.360 know, we're standing up against big tech or we're standing up against NCAA and we're
00:14:38.060 standing up against the administration.
00:14:40.280 And now we're having to stand up against big tech and it's, it's crazy that all of these
00:14:44.220 things are just denying absolute biological truth.
00:14:46.720 And I was like, kind of made the joke of whoever was programming this AI must've forgot to put,
00:14:52.540 you know, biological truth inside of it and tell it that, hello, men and women are different
00:14:58.260 and it's not being exclusive, uh, to acknowledge that.
00:15:01.560 That's a, that's a good point.
00:15:04.800 You know, we, as, as 20 year old girls, some even younger than 20, um, 17, 18, 19, these
00:15:11.560 girls were being asked to, to stand up for ourselves.
00:15:15.120 Yes.
00:15:15.320 We're adults, right?
00:15:16.220 When you, when you cross over that 18 years old, you are an adult and I understand we're
00:15:20.040 adults, but there still feels like there should be people protecting us, especially when you're
00:15:25.440 playing a sport like your coaches and like your, your athletic directors and your administrators
00:15:29.940 and different things, but it's such a, such a valuable consideration to understand what
00:15:36.320 you're asking us to do.
00:15:37.220 And that, that is asking us to stand up to one of the law.
00:15:40.460 I mean, the largest sport governing body, the NCAA, you're asking us to stand up to bid
00:15:45.140 big tech.
00:15:45.780 You're asking us, I mean, that's a lot to put on the shoulders of young girls.
00:15:50.280 And so it begs the question of, of, you know, where are the men, um, what, what has, what
00:15:55.920 have you noticed culturally?
00:15:57.080 Have you seen a culture shift in men, especially those of parents and coaches, as I mentioned,
00:16:02.740 who are supposed to be protecting us as girls? 1.00
00:16:05.140 Have you, have you seen that cultural shift?
00:16:08.160 I think that they're just scared.
00:16:09.860 They're, they're bending a knee and they're, they're also bowing down to this ideology because
00:16:14.920 they're, they're scared of what the opposition can do to them.
00:16:17.540 If they don't, um, people like Charlie Baker, I'm going to say his name, NCAA, um, these,
00:16:24.680 these big organizations, I believe wholeheartedly, especially in the older generation, um, they
00:16:30.960 know exactly what they're doing.
00:16:32.580 Younger generations, the people even younger than, than you and I, um, this is being, you
00:16:38.200 know, preached in their ear from a very young age.
00:16:41.300 And so I never, um, would like to blame any of them, uh, specifically these younger kids
00:16:47.480 who I believe are absolutely victims of this ideology.
00:16:50.160 Um, and they simply don't know better, but you cannot convince me that anyone in these
00:16:55.760 governing organizations doesn't know better.
00:16:57.600 They know exactly what they're doing and they are, they are choosing to bow down to this
00:17:01.500 ideology rather than protecting women. 0.85
00:17:03.820 Absolutely.
00:17:04.880 Um, I think my last and final question for you, again, me, I know you, I know your heart.
00:17:11.620 I know there's no hate in your heart.
00:17:14.220 What role has your faith played for you?
00:17:17.520 Um, has that been instrumental and kind of understanding this topic and understanding how
00:17:22.580 to advocate for fairness for women and ultimately fairness?
00:17:26.480 I mean, this is, this is more than just women. 1.00
00:17:28.260 It's, it's the issue of denying of objective truth and biblical truth.
00:17:32.320 Um, so what, what role has your faith played?
00:17:35.020 Yeah.
00:17:35.320 Well, obviously as an NCAA athlete, it is not an easy thing to speak up about.
00:17:40.080 And it's something that I was, um, honestly kind of reluctant to do at first.
00:17:44.600 I will never forget spring break.
00:17:47.200 I was, uh, getting pizza with my mom and I was standing in line and I got a call from
00:17:52.220 young women for America asking me to testify on the girls sports issue.
00:17:55.560 And I would have to, um, I probably shouldn't even, uh, it's fine.
00:17:59.280 I got a call from young women for America and they asked me to testify on the issue and
00:18:04.720 I would have to miss a volleyball practice.
00:18:07.180 Um, and that is kind of unheard of, um, you don't, you don't miss volleyball practice,
00:18:13.580 but we are out of season.
00:18:15.520 Um, and I, I was just like, sorry, no, I can't and hung up.
00:18:20.200 And I was standing there with my mom and I felt like I was going to throw up.
00:18:24.580 I couldn't explain it.
00:18:26.120 I was like, mom, I don't know what it is, but I think it's the Lord telling me I need
00:18:30.660 to call them back.
00:18:31.380 And so I called my coach and I said, coach, you have every right to tell me I can't go,
00:18:37.280 but I just have to tell you what's going on.
00:18:39.020 Is it okay if I go?
00:18:40.460 And she said, absolutely no question.
00:18:43.100 You have to go.
00:18:43.860 I agree.
00:18:44.660 And so I called them back and I was like, yes, I can go.
00:18:47.100 And, and so I, I testified in the very next day was the NCAA swimming and diving national
00:18:51.820 championship.
00:18:52.300 And so I truly believe in my heart that that was the Holy spirit telling me that he was calling
00:18:56.920 me to this fight and that I needed to call back and give them a yes.
00:19:00.940 And so ever since it's kind of been this trajectory of, of being more involved and just seeing the
00:19:06.540 Lord call me to this and man, the confidence that that can give me, uh, that I didn't have
00:19:11.880 before of just knowing that the Lord who literally was the one who created male and female is on
00:19:19.100 my side and he can move mountains.
00:19:20.880 And I have confidence that he will give me the words to say when I, when I am speaking and
00:19:25.400 that, uh, he will continue to provide opportunities and, and other things like that.
00:19:30.300 And so it has definitely been a game changer, just being able to lean on that and knowing
00:19:34.660 that it doesn't matter what the NCAA says.
00:19:37.200 It doesn't matter what the presidential administration says.
00:19:39.800 I have the God who can move mountains on my side.
00:19:42.040 And so who am I to be scared?
00:19:43.600 Who am I to say no, um, or to, to bow down to anything, but the Lord almighty who created
00:19:49.360 me.
00:19:49.720 So that seriously moves me so much, like tears in my eyes.
00:19:55.400 Um, it's so powerful to hear that.
00:19:59.000 And you're, you're exactly right.
00:20:00.560 Um, we have a God that's who we will ultimately answer to not big tech, not the NCAA, not the
00:20:07.440 Biden administration, surely not.
00:20:09.460 Um, and so to hear you say that, to hear how he has, how he has moved through you, how he
00:20:15.240 has his hand on you and how he has his hand on us in this battle.
00:20:18.860 Um, again, myself being a Christian as well, the Bible tells us, it prophesizes, we will
00:20:24.360 go through a time where our yeses, our nos and our nos are yeses.
00:20:27.260 And I wholeheartedly believe we're living through that right now.
00:20:30.980 Um, but the Bible also says we're on the winning side of this.
00:20:33.920 And so Macy, I couldn't be more grateful for you, um, for your stance, for your fight.
00:20:39.040 Um, especially, Hey, you are still an NCAA athlete.
00:20:43.200 That's what people don't realize.
00:20:44.600 You have put yourself on the line here.
00:20:47.140 Um, even myself, I cowered, right.
00:20:49.340 And when I, by the time I spoke up, I was graduating, I was a senior.
00:20:53.380 I had nothing to lose.
00:20:54.420 You have a lot to lose.
00:20:55.900 You have a lot on the line.
00:20:57.120 And so, so being one of the few, actually, probably, probably one of the only who has
00:21:04.000 actually been outspoken, who has been on the ground, who has been doing everything you
00:21:07.560 can to fight for us.
00:21:09.540 And when I say us again, I mean, us as women, I mean, us as a society, us as a culture.
00:21:15.020 So we're no longer denying truth.
00:21:17.680 Um, that's incredibly inspiring.
00:21:19.940 And you're, you're truly a role model to so many.
00:21:22.640 And so I couldn't be more grateful for your time here on the gains for girls podcast.
00:21:27.120 Riley, thank you so much for having me and so much for the kind words.
00:21:32.580 Uh, you have also been such an inspiration to me and your bold voice and your strong voice.
00:21:37.940 And I can really just see the Lord working through you and inspiring so many other, uh,
00:21:43.560 young women and old women alike.
00:21:45.680 We got some gray hairs that are looking at you and, and so thankful that you are continuing
00:21:50.120 the fight that so many, so many started even before we were even born.
00:21:53.780 And so thank you for your boldness and, and your, um, compassionate fight and, and for
00:21:59.560 this, um, and for women everywhere. 0.99
00:22:02.780 Macy is someone who should inspire us all.
00:22:06.000 Uh, she's a young girl who's taken a stand ultimately for the truth and for what's right
00:22:10.860 and for what's fair for more than just herself.
00:22:13.020 She's fighting for that next generation. 1.00
00:22:14.820 Um, how can you listen to that and not be encouraged to the, to do the exact same?
00:22:20.040 Thank you for listening to the gains for girls podcast.
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00:22:27.220 And we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday.
00:22:29.020 We'll see you next Wednesday.