Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - Sage Steele on NFL’s Pride Month Silence & Spencer Pratt's Surge ｜ The Riley Gaines Show

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00:00:28.000 don't force us to do anything because oh by the way does it go both ways and usually the answer

00:00:36.160 is no it does not so maybe slowly but surely people are going to use their brains again riley

00:00:40.940 it's pride month again uh but the good news the nfl has gone quiet on the rainbows this year

00:00:47.820 governors are treating menopause like a disability and celebrity outsiders are running for mayor

00:00:53.280 while cities burn. We're talking about all of that and more with former ESPN hosts and now

00:00:59.260 hosts of the Sage Steele Show, Sage Steele. Well, Sage, it is Pride Month again. So I don't know if

00:01:11.000 I should start this episode by wishing you a happy Pride Month. Happy June in Tennessee. We celebrate

00:01:16.640 Nuclear Family Month, as made declared by our governor here. But nonetheless, lots to discuss.

00:01:23.920 One of the things that I wanted to talk to you right out of the bat with was the NFL and their

00:01:29.440 main social accounts, because it seems as if the NFL as a league has stayed pretty much completely

00:01:34.400 silent on June 1st this year, which is totally unlike past seasons with, you know, heavy on the

00:01:41.160 football is for everyone, rainbow messaging, blah, blah, blah. Of course, we have seen some

00:01:46.780 individual teams are still celebrating and doing pride nights and logos. Actually, most of them

00:01:52.740 are. I think there are only nine teams as of today that have refused to celebrate pride month being

00:01:58.360 Steelers, Cowboys, Bengals, Browns, Saints, Chiefs, Titans, and the Raiders. All that to say,

00:02:04.680 what do you make of the shift specifically from the league? You know, is corporate sports finally

00:02:10.600 backing off of the heavy pride push or is this just like a rebranded move so that's confirmed

00:02:17.320 the league the league didn't do a separate post about it i haven't seen anything unless i'm

00:02:21.340 missing something yeah i didn't think i'd seen it either um and they made it very in your face

00:02:26.680 in previous years absolutely it is a shift and i have been keeping track of which teams

00:02:31.860 um are remaining those last few left standing there's a couple that i'm surprised aren't on

00:02:38.240 the we're not going to do it list um a little bit disappointed there but i try to go through that

00:02:44.600 list and look at ownership and then like the kansas city chiefs i'm not surprised at all that

00:02:48.540 they are on the list who are like no we're good we live with inclusivity so we don't need to make

00:02:54.460 an extra statement there i hope that the league is getting a message um my goodness i guess never

00:03:01.740 too late right we'll take it um but at the end of the day you know if they were doing their job from

00:03:07.840 the get-go. They would never have gone down this path. I think there's probably a lot of regret

00:03:12.700 from people with brains in these leagues, regardless of their political affiliations

00:03:19.180 or their beliefs. From a business perspective, look at the demographic of your league,

00:03:25.280 whether it's NFL, whether it's college football, whether it's hockey, whether it's Major League

00:03:31.040 Baseball. I think the NBA is probably a little bit different. But if you're looking at it from

00:03:35.840 a business perspective, it's probably at least 50% minimum who are pretty conservative, especially

00:03:43.440 college football in the South and SEC and even NFL. Why go there? Because I think for the vast

00:03:50.780 majority of players that I've been around for 30 years in sports, it wasn't a thing. They didn't

00:03:56.920 sit there and say, who are you voting for? It was all about inclusivity. Locker rooms, as you know,

00:04:03.120 are the most diverse places potentially in all of America.

00:04:07.760 Sports, that's where it all begins and ends.

00:04:09.720 So I don't know why they started in the first place.

00:04:12.140 They get just pressure,

00:04:13.080 which makes it even harder to stop

00:04:15.400 painting your logo with rainbows.

00:04:17.720 It is harder to stop.

00:04:18.880 That's almost more of a statement than starting

00:04:20.540 is when you stop.

00:04:22.040 So I'm going to give those nine teams credit.

00:04:25.680 And maybe then you taught me this phrase

00:04:28.980 that I guess I hadn't used before,

00:04:30.380 but courage begets courage.

00:04:31.460 It's sad to say that it does take some courage with these corporations to not do it, but maybe next year there'll be a dozen and we go from there. I think it just bothers me overall that they feel the need to pressure their players to represent that.

00:04:48.700 And I'll end on this because I think it's been really encouraging over the last couple of years to look at Major League Baseball players, hockey players in particular, baseball and hockey, who are like, you know what?

00:04:59.800 You can't force me to put that rainbow patch on my jersey.

00:05:03.660 I'm not going to do it.

00:05:05.700 Instead, you had Clayton Kershaw when they had the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, whatever that was with the Dodgers.

00:05:12.200 Terrible, right?

00:05:12.880 Who instead put a Bible verse on his hat.

00:05:15.500 And so they then, the commissioner of Major League Baseball, Rob Manfred, he said, you know, let's not force it.

00:05:22.820 And I think the players appreciate that. Right. Don't force us to do anything because, oh, by the way, you know, does it go both ways?

00:05:32.260 And usually the answer is no, it does not. So maybe slowly but surely people are going to use their brains again, Riley.

00:05:38.200 Yeah, you know, talking about it going both ways, whether it was the end racism that was painted in the end zone, the NFL had like the Black Lives Matter painted on all the fields for years, I think starting back in like the 2020 era, they added the Black National Anthem to pregame, they've encouraged players to kneel during the real American National Anthem.

00:06:03.740 But it seems as if even if you show a sliver of support for President Trump or conservative values of any kind or Christian beliefs, we just saw Jackson Dart introduce the president, the left and their lapdog media, especially left-leaning sports media, which I believe may be a hot take.

00:06:22.020 Maybe you're right there with me.

00:06:23.140 If anyone is, it's probably you.

00:06:24.860 I believe left-leaning sports media to be the most insufferable arm of left-leaning media.

00:06:30.300 all of these entities, they will lose their ever-loving minds and claim that we're bringing

00:06:37.140 politics into sports. Do we really think that's the case, that they don't want politics in sports,

00:06:43.520 or do they just not really want anyone else's politics in sports?

00:06:49.220 You know, I think you can go back to basically when Laura Ingram, our friend at Fox News,

00:06:54.900 when she said shut up and dribble a few years ago.

00:06:58.640 I think that's what most people want

00:07:01.060 is because we all go to sports to escape.

00:07:03.920 That's why one of the reasons

00:07:04.960 why I wanted to become a sportscaster,

00:07:06.220 not a newscaster is because it was the one place

00:07:09.440 where everybody could go

00:07:10.360 where none of that stuff mattered.

00:07:11.740 Your race, your sex, your socioeconomic status,

00:07:14.460 your faith, your politics,

00:07:15.820 nothing mattered on a football Sunday, right?

00:07:19.420 But then when she said that, people went nuts.

00:07:22.660 and i think it actually encouraged people on the left to do more of it like take that you can't

00:07:28.880 tell us i i think now there's almost too much money that would be left on the table for people

00:07:35.920 to stop stop making everything about race just like the joy reeds and jamel hills and um don

00:07:43.200 lemons of the world right who uh just can't help themselves but make every single issue about race

00:07:51.620 even before then, even before that, though, I want to point out like during COVID and when the

00:07:59.140 vaccine stuff started to come out, which I guess at the same time as the black square, George Floyd,

00:08:04.180 I know for a fact, so many players, some of the biggest name players in the National Football

00:08:09.100 League. I mean, Aaron Rodgers was like the lone vocal one about it, but he was not alone. There

00:08:14.900 were so many conversations taking place behind the scenes like, dude, I don't want to do this

00:08:19.440 shot either. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. But no one said it because they knew

00:08:25.200 they'd get crushed. I don't believe all of them did it. I can't imagine Tom Brady did it. I know

00:08:31.140 LeBron James didn't do it. I don't know that for a fact. That's my feeling. And so it's shocking to

00:08:36.560 me sometimes that there is this fear in the sports world where they don't have nearly as much to risk

00:08:43.940 as the everyday American making $80,000 a year trying to raise a family of five, right? That's

00:08:48.960 one of my biggest issues, whether it's with what happened with COVID, whether it's with standing up

00:08:53.540 for women and keeping men and boys out of sports. These guys, not only do they know the truth that

00:09:00.620 we are biologically completely different, celebrate all of us for being different, but

00:09:06.120 Riley, they've got sometimes nine figures in the bank. And for most people, you understand why they

00:09:14.360 stay silent, even though I don't like it. I get it if they feel like they're going to lose their job

00:09:18.040 and they can't afford it, these guys have millions and millions

00:09:21.940 and still choose to stay silent.

00:09:24.180 So I think I'm just disappointed in more people not standing up.

00:09:28.400 How about Jackson Dart, though?

00:09:30.160 Not only did he do what he wanted to do on his day off, off-season,

00:09:34.340 not representing the New York Giants in an official role,

00:09:38.040 he didn't apologize when they came after him,

00:09:41.060 and they came after him hard.

00:09:42.500 He just turned 23 in May.

00:09:45.200 You talk about courage.

00:09:46.360 It shouldn't take that.

00:09:48.040 So maybe Jackson can be an example for some of these other wildly old veterans who are sitting on their hands and zipping their mouths for the most obvious things, especially sticking up for women.

00:09:59.340 But most importantly, diversity of thought.

00:10:02.160 You know, that's how I've always led diversity of thought and not just speaking up or going along with it when it matches the league's narrative or the social media narrative.

00:10:12.900 That's when I'm going to really be like, OK, guys, we've grown up.

00:10:16.840 Good.

00:10:17.280 You're actually practicing what you're preaching, not just what you think is going to please the left.

00:10:22.200 You know, the response to Jackson Dart was certainly not what you would believe it to be if you just listen to left-leaning sports media or left-leaning media in general.

00:10:32.900 You would think you would be canceled and ostracized and kicked off the roster and never allowed playing time again and would just, you know, go off into some place where we would never have to hear or see his name or face ever again.

00:10:44.920 But that wasn't the response at all. His jersey broke like record number sales. I think it was like the top highest selling NFL jersey of, I mean, potentially all time. So that's the response. That's how desperate people are for truth tellers, especially in athletes who oftentimes are, I mean, the best role models, whether the best or, you know, maybe that's not the word to use, but it's who kids look up to.

00:11:12.860 they look up to athletes uh so that's been the response it's totally antithetical to what

00:11:19.580 you'd believe it to be well i mean that happened what a week and a half ago or so

00:11:25.520 before pride month began maybe they were paying attention to that and to the reaction and listening

00:11:32.380 in the locker room to their to their players because you know this was a conversation and

00:11:35.980 again it's off season but there's some otas going on etc the timing is very interesting i wonder if

00:11:41.120 that changed any team's minds as far as and even the league's mind for not making a statement happy

00:11:47.280 pride month because they saw look look what happened when jackson stood true to himself

00:11:51.620 look what the fans did you know buying those jerseys you had some people like joy reed many

00:11:57.780 i'm not a giants fan and sunny hoston on the view who probably none of these women even knew what a

00:12:02.140 football was no i know that video of joy reed is hilarious i'm like what is your giants you you

00:12:09.280 couldn't rattle off one one piece of Giants fandom Joy Reid nothing it's it's it's like

00:12:15.900 between all these people Kathy Hochul they they have no clue what they're talking about

00:12:19.740 and so you know I say from a fan perspective like well I'm not going to be a fan and I saw it on

00:12:25.340 next I'm done with the Giants the number of people waiting in line for season tickets to take their

00:12:30.320 place like yeah I think it's actually going to help the Giants continue to help them it's already

00:12:36.440 helping Jackson Dart, but give him credit and his family credit. And they knew he was going to get,

00:12:41.500 I mean, I know people in that world, the family knew that they were going, he was going to get

00:12:47.740 some pushback for saying yes to introducing the president. They didn't think it'd be quite to

00:12:51.840 this level. But they also, you know, they lead with faith and they've been praying a lot. And

00:12:57.920 I think that that has helped Jackson stay true. I just, I'm really, I don't know him. I've never

00:13:01.800 met him. I communicated with him on Instagram over the last couple of years because Ole Miss

00:13:06.200 my daughter's at Ole Miss. Every girl at Ole Miss had a crush on Jackson. I think my daughter

00:13:13.000 bought one of his jerseys when he was at Ole Miss. And I just, I'm really proud of him because almost

00:13:17.240 every single person that is, you know, come under fire outside of sports, whatever it is. I mean,

00:13:23.460 think back about Drew Brees. Everybody goes and apologizes when the pressure comes. He's one of

00:13:30.780 the few that didn't. It's so refreshing. Yeah. And it's not even just sports that we see this

00:13:37.180 like groveling apology when you face an ounce of backlash, which is bound to happen no matter

00:13:42.940 what the topic is. It doesn't matter if you say you like chocolate ice cream or vanilla ice cream,

00:13:48.800 someone somewhere out there on the internet will say that you're like racist if you don't like

00:13:52.820 chocolate ice cream. Okay. It doesn't matter what the topic is, you're going to face backlash for

00:13:57.020 it so the people who don't you know issue these groveling apologies I have a lot of respect for

00:14:02.300 honestly regardless of which side of the aisle that you're on people who have conviction and

00:14:07.040 who are willing to stand by what they know to be true or what they believe to be true even if it's

00:14:12.100 not the popular thing I can respect it just and just be kind with it like you can disagree just

00:14:18.660 because I I don't know if you saw my post um yesterday I I really thought about it knowing

00:14:24.240 I'm going to get some crap for it, but it was about spanking with parenting.

00:14:28.840 Oh, I wanted to ask you about this, actually.

00:14:31.360 Well, I don't, you know, I knew it'd be controversial, but I asked my daughter, Evan, first of all, if she's okay if I posted it.

00:14:40.040 And she's like, well, if you could change that one picture out, then okay, I'll.

00:14:44.440 But it was just, point being, controversial topics, making controversial decisions like Jackson Dart did.

00:14:51.800 Like, what's your why behind it?

00:14:53.760 do you believe in it? For me, with the spanking, it was just to get a conversation going. And by

00:14:57.460 the way, all my kids, I sent them a group text before I posted it. I go, are you okay? And then,

00:15:02.860 hey, when you're a parent, do you think that you might spank your kids? And of course,

00:15:09.360 it's when my kids rarely got spanked. It was very rare, but a few times. And do you know

00:15:15.200 what Quinn said? You know Quinn. She's 24 now. She goes, are you kidding me, mom? I deserve that

00:15:21.220 corporal punishment. Heck yeah. My son wrote back and he's like, duh, of course I'm going to spank.

00:15:26.040 My kids are great. It probably happened two and a half times per kid. They're all like, anyway,

00:15:31.520 sorry, tangent, you know me, but I really, when you go into it knowing that it's controversial,

00:15:36.680 but you know why you're doing it, I think it's a healthy conversation with spanking.

00:15:40.460 Why not? You're going to get the hate. And I have, oh my gosh, unfollow, unfollow.

00:15:45.300 Whatever. There's some freedom in that when you put it out there for the sake of a good

00:15:50.200 conversation or something that you believe in, like Jackson did.

00:15:53.980 I have found myself on the receiving end of those comments online several times where

00:16:00.440 it's people from your side, if you will, which I hate to make things partisan like that,

00:16:06.100 but people who vote Republican and conservative and say they believe in Jesus and probably

00:16:10.600 on 95% of things align with me. But if I criticize the president or have a problem with

00:16:17.200 with you know some republican take that's being had online it's immediately people saying well

00:16:22.780 I'm unfollowing you and to me it just represents someone who's in a cult if they can't number one

00:16:27.920 welcome and encourage honest and real discourse surrounding whatever the topic may be if you're

00:16:34.580 if your immediate reaction response is to just unfollow or block someone for having a different

00:16:40.080 opinion than you then maybe we don't have a whole lot in common you know what I'm saying so I'm I'm

00:16:46.200 right there with you. And on the spanking conversation, look, I can speak from my

00:16:50.080 experience. Our daughter, of course, she's, you know, eight months old now. So we haven't had to

00:16:54.800 yet spank her, although she does keep going for the outlets. And when she does, you know, she'll

00:16:58.840 reach her little hand up there and I have to kind of slap her hand away. And it is like, she'll look

00:17:02.760 at me like, mom, like, I, I just want to stick my finger in the outlet. What's so bad about that?

00:17:07.460 But my experience as a child, I can't even tell you how many times I got the belt. I got to like

00:17:13.240 my oh girl my I got to like go into the closet it was like a luxury we got to go into the closet

00:17:19.260 and pick out the belt that we got to get spanked with and it didn't happen often either but you

00:17:25.160 know I I think it is a a character building um a character building experience I I'm blown away at

00:17:33.040 the comments but people you know my age sometimes you think it's generational and everybody's like

00:17:36.800 oh my gosh but their feelings and people are like I can't believe that you had to you know

00:17:41.840 your ego is so bruised that you had to assert dominance on your children says everything I

00:17:46.540 need to know. And I'm like, okay, that that's, that's your view. And it's okay.

00:17:51.700 Those people just like, aren't real though. Like online, this is something that, again, I've,

00:17:55.640 I think, especially over the past two or three years, I've really come to learn is that online,

00:18:01.740 especially on X, which is where I get all my news. It's, it's probably my favorite social

00:18:06.280 media outlet to, to, you know, consume and to post on, but it is so not representative of real

00:18:13.760 life and real people. Exactly. Exactly. But I will say this, look at this crazy here. Thank

00:18:20.020 goodness you love me anyway. My, the spanking thing is so, it's amazing how people freak out

00:18:27.560 over it. And again, I kind of, I kind of knew, but I, I don't know. I'm so grateful for the

00:18:34.100 upbringing i had with my mom and dad and you know what um accountability and discipline and

00:18:41.100 boundaries and structure that is love and well and what's the alternative it's it's the whole

00:18:46.980 gentle parenting thing and we've seen an entire generation of of what gentle parenting produces

00:18:53.360 uh and it's it's bratty entitled kids who don't want to work hard at anything

00:18:59.800 So if those are my two choices, I know which one I'm choosing.

00:19:04.320 But, you know, people think that because you choose to use that kind of discipline once in a blue moon, it's truly what it is.

00:19:11.920 Like, so, so rare.

00:19:14.160 The other 99.9% of the time, there's love and there's hugs and there's arguments with teenagers and whatever.

00:19:19.940 But we don't lead with this is how we discipline.

00:19:24.500 To each his own, I just know that not only do I so believe,

00:19:29.080 I'm so grateful for my upbringing where there was that structure,

00:19:31.560 and I knew that there were going to be, what's the word?

00:19:35.940 Like there's accountability, there's repercussions.

00:19:38.380 If I break the rules, if I'm disrespectful, are you kidding me?

00:19:42.600 And the best thing now is that for my kids to say, oh, heck yeah, mom.

00:19:48.240 And then Quinn said, actually, because she said, I was afraid of you.

00:19:52.000 Like you were evil, mom.

00:19:53.100 I was afraid of you. And she's like, and you know what? I'm going to be 10 times harder than you

00:19:56.980 were on my kids. So then you go, okay, like as much as parents and Riley, I mean, we're all doing

00:20:05.460 this for the first time. Every day as a parent is your first time in that situation. You can read

00:20:10.940 all the books. You can talk to all the psychiatrists and psychologists that you want. At the end of

00:20:16.660 the day, you have to make what you believe is best for your kid, those kinds of decisions with you

00:20:22.720 and your husband and stand by that but also ask for grace and my kids now i mean they're like yeah

00:20:28.300 i think you could have done this a little better but i know why you did it and i'm gonna do it

00:20:34.420 a little differently and here's why or i love what you did here it takes decades apparently to hear

00:20:40.400 that and and that's okay um but i just think i was so hard on myself in every aspect beating myself

00:20:49.000 up i hope that i hope you're kinder to yourself well you know we've had this conversation before

00:20:56.460 actually where you learn and and society develops our culture develops we personally as we grow we

00:21:04.100 mature we become more wise you you learn new material even in having the vaccine conversation

00:21:09.080 which i know you and i have had before where you said and and as most people do as as we should

00:21:15.680 feel really comfortable and confident in doing is you believe the healthcare provider, right?

00:21:20.960 And saying, these are the vaccines you need to get for your children moments within them,

00:21:24.300 you know, being born and arriving here on this planet earth. Here's the vaccines you need to

00:21:28.780 inject them with. Most people even still, and as we should be able to, they trust the healthcare

00:21:34.620 provider. Whereas now I think there's more information, more readily accessible, easier

00:21:40.400 to access where we do have, I think, many people in my generation who are now beginning to question

00:21:46.720 and to push back on this. And so I took a different approach where we didn't vaccine

00:21:53.240 or vaccinate Margo. And we talked about it at the time, and I so vividly remember you saying,

00:21:58.560 like, I beat myself up over that. But again, we're all doing this the first time,

00:22:04.200 and we're learning as we go, our society develops as well.

00:22:08.020 what you did with that hepatitis b vaccine when margo was a day old and the question that you

00:22:15.560 ask that even tell people one more time because i i tell your story all the time for those who

00:22:20.100 hadn't heard about this specific moment yeah so with margo i had this we had this like blood thing

00:22:27.140 happen in in the delivery where we had different blood types and so her blood was fighting my

00:22:32.740 blood and in the process it was killing her red blood cells it was it was a really weird thing

00:22:36.680 Anyway, so it meant that she was admitted into the NICU for the first night, which no big deal.

00:22:43.800 That was the only complication we had throughout the entire pregnancy, delivery, whatever.

00:22:48.160 So that happened.

00:22:49.240 So I had the NICU nurse come in in the middle of the night, and she says, hey, with your baby in the NICU, we need to supplement with either formula or donor milk.

00:22:58.060 Are you okay with that?

00:22:59.260 And I'm like exhausted.

00:23:00.440 I had just labored.

00:23:01.760 It's the middle of the night.

00:23:02.600 I'm confused. And she's coming in here asking me what I perceive to be a pretty serious question

00:23:07.920 when it talks about, again, what your child is ingesting. When I was so careful throughout my

00:23:11.600 entire pregnancy to be very mindful of what I was putting in my body, as I understood that was the

00:23:15.740 nutrients that she was getting. And so she's coming in the middle of the night asking me this

00:23:18.520 question. I'm like, you know, donor milk, like I would rather do that than formula, but do we know

00:23:24.960 anything about the donors? I don't want my child getting some random lady's breast milk if it's

00:23:30.060 someone who has engaged in practices that i didn't engage in when i was pregnant like what about

00:23:35.000 if it's a donor who had had the covid vaccine i just honestly i don't know anything about this

00:23:39.980 does that you know transcend into breast milk even that's probably a stupid way of asking it and she

00:23:45.580 was so like offended i even pushed back on this and she said well i don't know i'm gonna give you

00:23:51.620 five minutes why don't you research and then when i come back you can tell me if you want the donor

00:23:55.220 milk that was like me research i don't know and i don't even know where i would begin to go to

00:24:02.580 research this again you are the health care professional yes and shaming you and when you

00:24:08.680 chose not to give her the vaccine margar the vaccinations you know it's what i mean the anger

00:24:13.740 my cousin they have four children and they've now been kicked out of two pediatricians offices

00:24:19.280 because they are asking questions about the vaccines.

00:24:23.280 That's it.

00:24:24.160 So I love that you thought that way.

00:24:27.880 Right after, I mean, the most emotional

00:24:31.300 and physically traumatic moment of your life,

00:24:34.880 giving birth to another human being

00:24:36.920 that you had the wherewithal to think that through

00:24:40.140 and to ask those questions.

00:24:42.220 Like, I love that you did it.

00:24:43.940 And by continuing to tell the story,

00:24:45.680 you're empowering other young mothers to do the same.

00:24:48.300 That's very kind.

00:24:49.280 It's a learning curve, all of that to say.

00:24:52.180 You pick up as you go, you learn, and you develop as a human from that.

00:24:56.540 And I think I turned out pretty okay.

00:24:59.720 I definitely have my quirks and my things,

00:25:02.320 but I'm very grateful for the structure that my parents gave me too.

00:25:05.500 And I can speak to the relationship you have with your kids,

00:25:07.620 and it is beautiful and exactly what I want for me and Louie

00:25:11.680 and with little baby Margo.

00:25:14.080 But on the topic, I don't know if you saw this story this week.

00:25:17.220 This really just reminded me of it,

00:25:18.780 but I want to ask you about it and get your take on this. You have Bob Ferguson, who is the governor

00:25:24.840 of Washington state. He just signed, I think it was an executive order to support women in the

00:25:30.680 workplace who experience PMS and menopause symptoms. This was actually the post he put

00:25:38.100 online. He says, today I signed an executive order to support women in the workplace who

00:25:43.700 experience PMS and menopause symptoms. This will ensure my cabinet agencies have appropriate

00:25:48.140 measures in place to support state employees experiencing menopause symptoms as governor my

00:25:52.900 administration will be a place where workers can serve the people of washington and know they'll

00:25:56.400 be supported we'll share this expertise and guidance with employers all across our state

00:26:00.680 number one i had to like really read the post twice i'm like what are you saying that you're

00:26:04.200 gonna do here you're going to give support to women in the workplace who are experiencing pms

00:26:10.240 and menopause what does that mean i looked into it it means literally this was outlined having

00:26:15.400 access to cold water. What in the world? Dress code things, being able to work remotely, work

00:26:22.000 from home. So my initial thoughts upon reading this, number one, this is quite humiliating.

00:26:28.740 He has made the natural progression of the reality of being a woman out to be a disability,

00:26:35.040 right? Like these menopause or PMS symptoms are framed as a potential sensory or mental or

00:26:42.320 physical impairment under Washington law against discrimination requiring reasonable accommodations.

00:26:51.180 What for being a woman? And so my second thought was, does this apply to men who claim our identity

00:26:57.660 as women as well? And sure enough, it does. Nowhere in this policy does it actually mention

00:27:02.400 the word woman. It uses gender neutral language like people experiencing menopause or employees

00:27:06.920 experiencing PMS or individuals. Nowhere does it say woman. It's sidelined here. And my third and

00:27:12.380 final thought before I get your take here was this actually doesn't help women at all. This

00:27:17.800 makes us out to be a liability in the workplace. It makes us more expensive to hire, which means

00:27:23.200 women, especially older women, won't get hired. You're not helping us by doing this, Governor

00:27:28.720 Bob Ferguson. Do you think this is like genuine support of women or do you think this is more

00:27:34.020 performative politics totally performative i had not heard that i'm sitting here in shock

00:27:39.600 i guess i shouldn't be shocked that it's happening in washington state washington california d.c

00:27:47.200 maryland like we know the places where insert yeah would would would take place but that is

00:27:51.640 shocking and again support the only thing you could find was cold water like is that is there

00:27:59.240 anything else offered? Cold water. Okay. I mean, ice packs. I mean, I've gotten some hot flashes.

00:28:06.060 I'm 53. I've been in menopause symptoms for a few years, but like, I'm not, I mean, you might

00:28:10.560 see me all of a sudden having to dab them. I'm a little sweaty. Like, I don't need, what do we

00:28:15.420 need? Like, I guess they provide like breast nursing rooms. Now, do we need a menopause room?

00:28:21.600 Like, I don't understand and why.

00:28:26.020 And maybe the bigger question is, who falls for this crap?

00:28:31.900 Like, is that the reason why you're going to vote for someone like him now?

00:28:36.180 I mean, he's providing support for when we hit that age.

00:28:39.240 How about this?

00:28:40.300 Menopause.

00:28:40.800 How about, is perimenopause included, which could happen in your late 30s, early 40s?

00:28:45.300 I mean, what's the line here?

00:28:46.940 And then what do you do?

00:28:48.040 So then do they get extra sick days?

00:28:50.080 they just i mean then you're gonna call your boss and say i'm having some really bad pms today

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00:29:28.560 I just can't.

00:29:30.540 They're making up reasons to try to be performative enough to suck more people in.

00:29:39.020 Again, like, that would never happen here in the state of Florida or where you are in the state of Tennessee.

00:29:45.160 It would never happen.

00:29:46.060 But also why we're experiencing like a mass influx of people from those states, from California, Washington, Oregon, Michigan, Maine, Colorado.

00:29:56.960 They're coming. They're fleeing, really, in extremely high numbers to states like ours because they're sick of it, too, which leads me to California and Spencer Pratt.

00:30:07.920 He's advancing to a runoff against Karen Bass.

00:30:11.240 Actually, we have a video that I want to play from from some people outside after his his advancement who were celebrating.

00:30:20.720 Let's watch it really, really quick.

00:30:22.000 What is it about Spencer Pratt that you just resonating with you?

00:30:25.820 Because he's speaking out against communism and socialism.

00:30:28.840 And it is a real big problem in our cities, especially in L.A. where it's turned to crap.

00:30:33.200 It's not an accident. They're doing it by design.

00:30:35.700 Karen Bass wants to destroy our city. And it's nice to see someone like Spencer.

00:30:38.920 i can simplify it because those buzzwords are like uh they they they melt the brains of like

00:30:44.480 left you know leaning people so let's just say it this way he doesn't want you a human feces to be

00:30:50.060 a part of your life yeah he doesn't want homeless children outside thank you oh you didn't like that

00:30:56.400 oh you ran away okay we appreciate you i love that like the minute he starts to bring up all

00:31:06.080 of the the horrific things uh that karen bass has not answered to she immediately like takes

00:31:12.100 the microphone away what do you make of of celebrities i think it's specifically here

00:31:18.240 spencer pratt jumping into politics like he has well at first i was like really spencer pratt now

00:31:25.400 i didn't watch the hills or whatever he was on i never was really a reality tv person um but then

00:31:31.020 what is our job? Our job is to put that aside, just like we did for Donald Trump, just like we

00:31:37.500 have for a lot of politicians who come in with not as much experience. People criticized Ronald

00:31:41.540 Reagan back in the day for coming from Hollywood and doing it. And look, greatest president probably

00:31:46.780 of my lifetime. And so, okay, put that aside. Listen to what they're saying, especially if you

00:31:53.120 are Los Angeles and you have endured what you've endured. Part of it is self-inflicted, certainly.

00:31:58.860 but over the last several years and this predates karen bass it's eric garcetti the former mayor as

00:32:04.780 well but i love it i i love it this is when it's obvious that they are in such a desperate situation

00:32:14.260 when someone like this certainly steps up and says okay i don't want to do this but i'm to the

00:32:18.880 point here of having to either um what's the nice way of that phrase you know crap or get off the

00:32:27.460 spot like you can sit there and you can complain about it rightfully so or you can choose to take

00:32:35.000 another step and do something about it I love that soundbite because those are two guys or if

00:32:41.640 you're walking down the street in any city you see them you're probably not going to guess that

00:32:45.540 that's what they would say you would have probably stereotyped unfairly maybe and guess that they

00:32:51.120 would have been like go Karen Bass especially based on where they live did you see the interviews

00:32:56.180 the first time she took the podium after the results started to come in, she started to talk

00:33:02.360 about all the things that Los Angeles deserves, what the city deserves, and they don't deserve

00:33:08.480 the homelessness. And I'm like, are you crazy? You're an incumbent. You're the incumbent mayor.

00:33:15.100 And you're sitting there talking about what your city doesn't deserve that you have enabled and

00:33:20.420 allowed and almost encouraged with the way that you've handled things from passing out

00:33:24.860 needles and whatever it is to drug addicts, homeless people on the street. So that's why

00:33:31.160 you've got people who would never have thought about voting for someone like Spencer Pratt,

00:33:35.780 regardless of where he comes from, just that he's center right. That's how desperate it is.

00:33:41.480 I'm so proud of him. I've never met him. I have no ties to him, no horse in this race. I'm so proud

00:33:46.700 of what he accomplished in that city of all cities to be right behind her. When you look at

00:33:54.440 the final numbers of course it won't be final final for probably a month in california um it's

00:34:00.200 incredible and it just speaks volumes that people there are exhausted um i look forward to november

00:34:07.400 you can you imagine what the ads are going to be like riley between now and november when those two

00:34:13.160 face that runoff no i was so encouraged though because honestly like his his whole campaign has

00:34:19.880 been like really chef's kiss, his ads, the commercials, the way he communicates even. It's

00:34:25.440 so plain, yet it's so effective on homelessness, on crime, on the city's response to the fires.

00:34:32.980 LA and California more broadly, they have had massive visible crises and he wants to confront

00:34:42.140 them head on and in the public and transparently, which I think is really important. He actually,

00:34:48.140 I saw a video this morning where he challenged, uh, Karen Bass to debating every Friday for the

00:34:53.960 next five months until November. Um, which, Oh, it's like genius though, because if, if you have

00:35:01.620 a functioning brain, um, all he wants is transparency. All he wants is honesty. And

00:35:07.320 again, he's willing to do it forward facing head on confront these issues. That's what a lot of

00:35:13.540 Californians have been denied of. So do you think that style of direct unfiltered communication

00:35:20.280 resonates more with voters today than the traditional like polished politics? Because

00:35:26.380 President Trump is very much the same way. He's not your traditional president. I wouldn't

00:35:30.460 necessarily describe him as overly presidential. He has fantastic, other fantastic qualities,

00:35:35.620 but he's not that presidential. But nonetheless, I think people appreciate it. And I think people

00:35:40.440 are pretty desperate for it. Yeah, I think all you have to do is look at the numbers that came

00:35:45.700 in, even though they're unofficial still on election night. Like, look at those numbers.

00:35:50.080 It is shocking. This is, I think, basically historical in Los Angeles to see someone

00:35:58.160 running as a Republican draw these kind of numbers. And he came into this race really,

00:36:03.240 really late. Like it is just it is if I'm a Democrat, if I'm a Democrat politician in that

00:36:09.680 state i'm like i am concerned i am very very nervous and i don't know what they can do

00:36:18.980 no matter how good their campaign ads end up being from here on out for her

00:36:23.380 what can they do because at the end i don't know i'm old school and my dad always taught us kids

00:36:29.180 uh about track record and it's like scoreboard you know yeah and as much as okay going forward

00:36:36.920 here's my plan. Do we believe you? I don't know. But based on what we already do know,

00:36:43.460 like this isn't an opinion. These are the facts of what has and has not happened on your watch

00:36:49.480 as mayor. Based on that track record, which is undeniable, Los Angeles, are you going to vote

00:36:55.800 for more of this? It's kind of like, you know, people in 2016 when they were like, listen,

00:37:01.020 I can't believe I'm going to vote for Donald Trump of all people, but I can't stand what I've

00:37:06.380 seen the track record of Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. We need a change. Hope and change,

00:37:12.920 right? It's obviously resonating. And I think that here's the key. He's going to have to now

00:37:19.160 go deeper, Spencer Pratt, go deeper on specific ideas and plans that he's going to be able to

00:37:25.900 implement immediately to fix this stuff, starting with crime and safety. Like, you can't just say,

00:37:31.120 okay, we're going to get the homeless people off the street. And he's gone a little deeper than

00:37:34.320 that. I mean, he's even reminded people that it's actually illegal to sleep on streets, something

00:37:38.180 that, you know, the current regime there has never acknowledged because they didn't even like the

00:37:43.260 word illegal. I mean, we know how they look at that considering the border, et cetera. But I need him.

00:37:49.000 We need him now. If he wants to have a fighting chance to actually win the mayoral seat in Los

00:37:54.900 Angeles County, he's got to go deep and give us details of his plans for all of these things.

00:38:01.820 the economy, obviously, preparing for fires. I heard pundits on the air during the elections

00:38:09.760 coverage last night talking about this was an arson. This wasn't her fault. We're not saying

00:38:17.260 the fire is her fault. We're saying the reaction to it and lack of preparedness is her fault. So

00:38:22.880 that's her track record. Spencer, how do you do it differently? We need to know specific details.

00:38:29.440 And then if you don't like it, fine, vote for her.

00:38:31.480 But that's one thing that they've never had to do.

00:38:33.820 The left in California has never had to go deep and explain.

00:38:37.400 Now they do.

00:38:38.580 And I'm so excited.

00:38:39.840 I've never cared about a mayoral race outside of the city I lived in ever this much, except

00:38:44.940 New York last fall.

00:38:46.940 And now this.

00:38:48.160 It's essential.

00:38:49.440 Otherwise, if she stays in California, like LA, you do you.

00:38:55.100 But this is self-inflicted.

00:38:56.420 And I have no sympathy after this.

00:38:58.240 It is so hard because there's a part of me that almost, and again, I don't live there, so it's not like I have, you know, much at stake in terms of my daily life that's being affected by who is the mayor of L.A. County.

00:39:13.000 But, of course, because I care about what is morally good, what is true, what is reality, what is the virtuous thing, I want L.A. to thrive and to succeed.

00:39:23.740 But you do, you reach a point where it's like, do you just kind of throw in the towel and let them be a lost cause?

00:39:29.900 Like, cool, this is the bed that you've made, now lay in it.

00:39:32.840 Or do we keep fighting?

00:39:33.940 And, again, I think that's a question that Californians specifically are left with every single day, especially those who have young families, you know, young kids.

00:39:42.220 it's like do we stay in this state and like continue to push back or do we leave and it's

00:39:47.200 it's almost an impossible decision yeah same with new york city though when they elected mom donnie

00:39:52.900 i'm like oh and i have a lot of great friends conservative friends in that city and i talked

00:39:57.640 to our friend samantha ponder about that on on my show with her in december after he had won

00:40:02.080 and you know she's like listen we love our city we don't want to be run out by this guy with his

00:40:08.540 socialist policies. And they're evaluating it. It's like, okay, to what end? And if the crime

00:40:15.660 continues to increase, et cetera, then we have decisions to make for the safety of our family.

00:40:19.720 My belief is that it almost takes catastrophe for people to say enough. I mean, New York City has

00:40:28.100 had several liberal mayors. This is another level. Even most Democrats admit that Zoran Mamdani and

00:40:35.480 his, I mean, outward socialist policies are like, it's another level. So my hope, for example,

00:40:42.560 with New York is that it sounds crazy. Like just go, go do all the things that you're threatening

00:40:49.480 to do because the quicker the city falls, the city crashes, things go to pot. The sooner people

00:40:57.880 realize, oh, we can't do this. We've got to fix it quickly. If it's like a slow burn, then there's

00:41:04.440 really no chance of getting out of it. I mean, potentially for, I mean, several, several decades

00:41:10.020 for California. Like you have a chance right now. Don't go down the Zoron lane. Otherwise getting

00:41:18.180 out is just that much harder. So it needs to be quick if New York wants a chance. And if California

00:41:23.900 wants a chance, like you're right there. You're, I I'm so hopeful for them. You know, there's so

00:41:30.360 many people that are independent in the middle in California who can't stand these policies.

00:41:36.820 So many good people. I would hate for them to have to make that decision to leave. They already have

00:41:41.500 in droves. And frankly, I don't want, I don't want Tennessee turning purple or Florida turning

00:41:48.120 purple or blue. Like part of me is like, please just stay there and live your healthy life.

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00:43:07.860 and you think of events like 9-11, which is, I mean, horrific, but the response that we saw

00:43:14.200 after it and that unification and the patriotism that was surging um again a horrible horrible

00:43:20.580 thing that never should have happened that resulted in thousands of deaths untimely death

00:43:25.740 but the response was a beautiful response the most beautiful i think that you could possibly have

00:43:31.540 in a situation like that and so i'm i'm right there with you uh where can people follow along

00:43:37.500 and watch the sage steel show you just had sean hannity on and i watched and it was so

00:43:42.680 of course it's insightful and it's good but it was funny um so where can people find what you've

00:43:48.720 got going on it's the first time i've done a part one and part two because there was so

00:43:52.520 much with him to talk about including when he taught was teaching me how to defend myself and

00:43:59.400 how to you know like gouge people's eyes out if i'm going to eyes out i was like sean's going like

00:44:05.040 this and i'm like oh so anyway sorry youtube the sage deal show um and all the say it for me riley

00:44:12.660 and wherever you and wherever you get your podcasts yes and then if you want to chime

00:44:18.720 into the spanking conversation on on instagram go for it i just love that people that we have

00:44:25.980 these platforms that we can have conversations and i i don't ever block anybody either you can

00:44:30.780 you know i call me a racist call me hateful call me all the things it's fine um that's that's where

00:44:36.880 we're different because me and the block button are like this i love you're smarter than me and

00:44:42.440 every way. I do mute sometimes because you know why? I don't want them to think that they got

00:44:48.540 under my skin enough to block. So I just mute them and then they get ignored and then they get

00:44:54.660 offended more. It's kind of, there's kind of some power in that too, but you're probably smarter

00:44:59.220 than me. No, no, no. I think you're a, I just, I've reached this point in life where I'm like,

00:45:04.780 you know what? If it competes with my piece, I'm going to eliminate it if I have the ability to do

00:45:11.780 so and so i'm just like if you're gonna come to my page as a fully grown adult it it takes a lot

00:45:17.340 honestly for me to block someone but if you're commenting on every single post leaving you know

00:45:22.500 some totally substantiated comment you're just getting blocked like you're a waste of my time

00:45:28.480 at this point and your own time gosh go outside and like touch grass no yeah no you're right and

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00:46:05.560 It doesn't, just because we're tough and have been doing this for a while now,

00:46:11.020 doesn't mean that it doesn't still hurt sometimes.

00:46:13.760 Like it does, because they'll go places where it's like,

00:46:16.880 oh my goodness, that's awful.

00:46:18.280 And it's about my children or my husband or my parents.

00:46:20.640 And you're like, gosh.

00:46:21.520 And then I remind myself,

00:46:23.080 it actually isn't about me or about you.

00:46:26.620 This is about someone being so dark and sad and angry

00:46:32.960 and having a lack of peace in their lives

00:46:35.820 that they need to make themselves feel better

00:46:37.720 by lashing out at someone else,

00:46:38.980 especially when they repeatedly come after you.

00:46:40.800 It's the only thing that's gotten me through it, the hate, because I'm like, this actually isn't about me.

00:46:44.920 And with that, there is a lot of peace.

00:46:48.440 There is entirely.

00:46:49.660 And it's true.

00:46:51.840 We get seen, and we are, these strong and resilient women.

00:46:56.100 And of course, but there are hard days.

00:46:58.980 There are days where I can't even really force myself to open social media because I don't want to see the mean things that are inevitably going to be said.

00:47:07.060 So it does.

00:47:08.020 It takes a toll on you.

00:47:09.000 But I haven't told you this.

00:47:10.160 I know you got to go. I'm sorry. Do you know how many people have talked to me about the way you handled the situation with President Trump? And with such grace and going back to your faith, how you handled the situation with President Trump with such grace and kindness and humility and reminder that the only person that you worship is Jesus.

00:47:33.440 like you handled it so beautifully and millions and millions of people saw that I mean you were

00:47:42.300 attacked and you could have easily understandably responded with something snarky considering how

00:47:47.720 much work you've done alongside him and his team I continue to take so many beautiful lessons from

00:47:54.080 you and just know that there are millions of people who were like wow for the proof that

00:48:01.300 she is all that. Great job, Riley's parents, because like, it was just, it was, it was

00:48:08.480 beautiful. Keep it up, girl. It's because I got spanked growing up. Full circle. That's what we'll

00:48:13.300 end on. You're the best, Sage. Thank you for being a role model for me and for little baby Margo.

00:48:19.700 Thanks, Riley.

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Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - June 05, 2026

Sage Steele on NFL’s Pride Month Silence & Spencer Pratt's Surge ｜ The Riley Gaines Show

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