Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - Shedding Light on the Dark Reality of Child Sex Trafficking and Exploitation

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00:00:25.220 Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the Games for Girls podcast.

00:00:28.640 Um, today's guest is someone, honestly, I admire a whole lot.

00:00:35.520 Um, we talk a lot about this movement, right, this gender ideology movement,

00:00:41.440 and how the most vulnerable populations are being preyed upon, right, women and children. 0.94

00:00:48.400 But that is not limited to just the gender ideology movement.

00:00:52.700 Of course, there are other issues going on around this country, really plaguing this country,

00:00:56.980 really the world, uh, where children are being impacted.

00:01:01.540 Uh, one of the most obvious since, I would say, the release of Sound of Freedom, uh, two years ago

00:01:06.680 that, that gained, of course, national public attention, is the child sex exploitation and

00:01:13.260 sex trafficking, um, ring and issues that are, that are, again, happening everywhere.

00:01:18.460 We need people on the ground who are willing to fight this stuff.

00:01:22.700 You know, it's one thing to take to social media and complain about it, acknowledge that

00:01:25.820 it's a problem, which I would imagine 99% of the world should do.

00:01:31.420 And if they can't do it, they should be able to do it.

00:01:34.160 Uh, but we need people willing to fight it.

00:01:35.980 And that's what today's guest has really dedicated his time to doing.

00:01:39.600 Uh, he was a Navy SEAL, he was then a law enforcement officer, and now he is a business

00:01:45.440 owner and the, uh, CEO of a non-profit called Covenant Rescue Group.

00:01:50.080 I've talked about this group in, um, several of my other podcasts, mentioning, um, the work

00:01:56.780 that they're doing, encouraging everyone to go and support this group because that's what

00:02:00.640 they need.

00:02:01.340 Uh, they need support, whether that's through finances, whether that's through, um, spreading

00:02:06.100 public attention, garnering support, uh, they need your help, uh, which is why I could not

00:02:11.420 be more excited to have on CEO of Covenant Rescue Group, Jared Hudson.

00:02:17.040 Well, Jared, thank you so much for joining the Gains for Girls podcast.

00:02:21.460 Um, before we kind of get into it, I wanted you to be able to tell us a little bit about

00:02:25.880 your background and how you got started in this field.

00:02:29.800 Yeah, well, first off, thanks for having me.

00:02:31.880 And, uh, just a real quick, uh, intro of me.

00:02:36.320 The thing I always start with is, uh, I'm a born again believer in the person of Jesus

00:02:40.580 Christ.

00:02:41.000 And the reason that that's important to me is because especially with what I do for a

00:02:45.100 lot of work, um, you know, I'm a, I'm a husband, I'm a father, a business owner, uh,

00:02:50.680 the CEO and founder of a nonprofit law enforcement agent, federal aid, all of these things.

00:02:55.060 And those are important.

00:02:56.700 Uh, but if I go out and I get shot tonight on one of our operations and I die, all those

00:03:03.180 things are gone.

00:03:03.880 They go away.

00:03:04.780 Uh, and there's only one thing that's left and that's the eternal, uh, and that's in the

00:03:08.700 person of Jesus Christ.

00:03:09.600 So, uh, I've been a believer my whole life.

00:03:12.140 And the reason I, I preface with that one, because it is the eternal, but number two, and,

00:03:18.960 uh, where it kind of segues into my background is when I was 19 years old, went on a

00:03:25.040 mission trip with our church and I just felt the Lord calling me to do something different.

00:03:29.360 He opened the doors at the time for me to be able to get a contract to go to, uh, buds

00:03:33.500 to seal training and become a seal.

00:03:35.700 And, uh, that's what I did.

00:03:36.940 Um, so, uh, went to the Navy, went through, uh, seal training, buds, SQT, and became a

00:03:43.820 U S Navy seal, which kind of got me into the line of work that I've been in, uh, you know,

00:03:49.060 now, obviously for the duration of my adult career.

00:03:52.080 Uh, when I got out of the seal teams in 2014, um, really got out around the end of 2013

00:03:58.480 and then 2014 went through a medical process.

00:04:01.120 And when I got out of the seal teams, I became a law enforcement officer, uh, and did that

00:04:06.140 for a little bit while I finished my, my MBA.

00:04:08.720 And that's kind of what got me into the law enforcement side and doing the sex trafficking

00:04:14.000 stuff, the human trafficking stuff.

00:04:15.600 Uh, finishing my MBA is what allowed me to actually finish it at Liberty University, uh,

00:04:21.180 when they offered the, the online, uh, masters of business program.

00:04:25.940 And so when I was able to finish that, that kind of taught me how to, you know, a better

00:04:30.860 run a business, start a nonprofit.

00:04:32.720 My wife and I, uh, through some prayer and deliberation and some of the work we were doing

00:04:37.020 in the anti-human trafficking sector.

00:04:38.640 Uh, we decided to, to start the, the nonprofit, uh, covenant rescue group.

00:04:44.480 And that's, uh, about as quick as I can make it start to finish sealed, a law enforcement

00:04:50.420 officer, uh, to, uh, to business owner and then nonprofit founder and, uh, and, and now

00:04:58.080 CEO of the nonprofit.

00:04:59.900 So you've got some experience is what you're saying.

00:05:03.080 Um, very, well, I guess a little bit.

00:05:04.760 Yeah.

00:05:04.960 Give a very brief mission statement for what covenant rescue group is and what you guys

00:05:11.420 do.

00:05:12.620 No.

00:05:13.120 Yeah.

00:05:13.280 So basically we provide, uh, training equipment and, uh, you know, awareness that falls under

00:05:19.880 training.

00:05:20.300 We're not as big on awareness, but primarily training and equipment, uh, for law enforcement

00:05:24.440 agencies and then also at risk personnel.

00:05:27.320 So that would be schools like K through 12.

00:05:29.760 We have a program where, uh, some of our team goes around and, uh, deals with primarily

00:05:34.880 high school students and teachers, but also teachers of, of the, the grade school students

00:05:40.100 for what, uh, stateside, uh, sex trafficking looks like in particular sex trafficking, but

00:05:46.200 just the general overview would be child exploitation.

00:05:49.040 Um, that's one thing that we do.

00:05:50.740 The primary thing that I focus on would be the law enforcement aspect.

00:05:54.080 And that's where we work as a, a combat advisor with an agency.

00:05:58.340 So when I say we provide training, um, equipment and awareness, uh, it's to those two groups,

00:06:04.120 those two entities at risk people, um, which are primarily children or law enforcement agencies

00:06:09.860 to target those who are going after, uh, the at risk people in the community.

00:06:15.000 It seems like, um, over the past five years, really the past two years, I would say the topic

00:06:22.200 of sex trafficking has been increasing globally, uh, sound of freedom came out.

00:06:28.200 Clearly this is a real problem.

00:06:29.840 And what I would call an epidemic across the world.

00:06:33.300 So from your perspective, someone who's involved in this space, how did we get here?

00:06:40.260 And why is there such a demand now?

00:06:43.280 I would say more than ever.

00:06:45.440 Yeah.

00:06:46.000 I, you know, that's a, that's a great question.

00:06:48.020 I get asked it a good bit.

00:06:49.200 But I can't say whether the demand is greater now than it was a hundred years ago or 500

00:06:56.380 years ago.

00:06:57.300 Uh, as a matter of fact, it, you know, if you look at it historically, it, it might even

00:07:02.300 possibly be, uh, more taboo now than it was, you know, way back, you know, in maybe Roman

00:07:09.720 times.

00:07:10.660 Uh, with that being said though, I think we're more in tune with it now, uh, in our culture.

00:07:16.080 Um, I think we see it more.

00:07:19.240 Does that make sense?

00:07:19.900 Like nothing is hidden anymore.

00:07:21.820 It's not like, uh, it's like when we would go fight in Afghanistan, my wife was more aware

00:07:28.060 of what I was experiencing through video, through emails, text messages, news.

00:07:33.080 Then maybe my grandmother was when my granddaddy was, you know, fighting or my great grandmother

00:07:38.020 when my great granddaddy was fighting in world war two.

00:07:40.060 Does that make sense?

00:07:40.780 So it's not that warfare had changed that much.

00:07:43.880 It's that our access and our ability to understand warfare, even if we weren't involved, I think

00:07:48.620 it's the same thing with, with sex trafficking or just human trafficking in general, whether

00:07:52.160 labor, sex, organ harvesting, whatever.

00:07:55.140 Um, it's not so much that it's changed or that we even have more or less of it.

00:08:00.140 It's that we're just more in tune with it because of, I mean, right now we're doing a podcast

00:08:04.020 and we're like three hours apart.

00:08:06.280 Um, you know, we have the ability to have access to this information more easily.

00:08:11.120 That's just my assessment.

00:08:12.540 Take it with a grain of salt.

00:08:13.640 But I think that's what we're seeing.

00:08:15.380 Uh, it's not to belabor that point.

00:08:19.300 It makes it easier to target it.

00:08:21.300 So there might even been a heart to target this in the past, but because of technology,

00:08:27.800 it's easier for us to target it and actually, you know, bring some of these perpetrators

00:08:32.700 to justice and some of these victims, the, the advocacy that they need.

00:08:37.240 I think you're absolutely right.

00:08:38.900 Uh, the social media access that we have now, which I guess kind of begs the question, um,

00:08:44.840 honestly, the access to pornography, do you think that that plays a role in this movement?

00:08:50.880 And do you think there's almost been a push to, you mean, you've said the word taboo to

00:08:55.220 almost normalize pedophilia?

00:08:57.800 Uh, there's been a, uh, several news stories going around this past week alone of, uh,

00:09:03.460 men, males who claim to be women breastfeeding infants.

00:09:08.220 And to me, I look at this and I see this for what it is, right?

00:09:11.800 To me, this looks like sexual abuse of a child because any man forces a baby to latch on and 1.00

00:09:17.800 suck his nipple, um, hate to break it to you. 1.00

00:09:20.660 That baby is being used as an erotic product and they do this under the guise of human rights. 1.00

00:09:26.420 Uh, but let's be clear, uh, sexual abuse is not a human right for anyone.

00:09:31.080 Uh, so do you think there's been a push almost to normalize pedophilia?

00:09:35.620 Oh, 100, 100%.

00:09:38.500 And we see that, um, I even think one of the European Union or some countries in the European

00:09:44.240 Union, uh, actually, uh, added pedophilia to the LGBTQ, whatever, you know, alphabet community 0.96

00:09:53.220 there is, right?

00:09:54.040 They actually added that as a sexual orientation, which is, uh, and that's something that we've

00:09:59.640 even seen try.

00:10:01.120 They've tried to make it happen in some areas around the U S it has not succeeded very well

00:10:06.940 to, to my knowledge and understanding.

00:10:08.820 And, uh, for every place that you have, Hey, we're trying to normalize it.

00:10:12.820 You've got a place like Alabama.

00:10:14.140 We just worked on legislation here, um, where they're making it like unbelievably, uh, tough

00:10:21.860 on the perpetrator, uh, when it comes to things like that, people who would be messing with

00:10:26.360 kids.

00:10:26.560 So yes, I do believe there is a push to normalize it, uh, in some sense or make it a sexual orientation,

00:10:32.020 but there are also, uh, areas where there, where there's a, a massive push the other way

00:10:37.820 to make sure that it, that it remains a criminal act remains a crime.

00:10:42.480 Anytime you're exploiting children.

00:10:44.040 One thing you mentioned, you know, with, uh, the, uh, uh, like with, with babies nursing

00:10:49.640 on men, uh, I will argue, and this is just me going to countries where that are war torn,

00:10:55.640 right?

00:10:55.860 We were in Israel right after Hamas kicked off working there, uh, with IDF and it just buddies 0.80

00:11:01.920 of mine within units, they're working in, in, uh, Gaza and Lebanon, supporting the need

00:11:06.740 for exploited children, uh, primarily by Hamas and the Palestinians, but either way, uh,

00:11:13.360 exploited Palestinian and Arab children and Israeli children, obviously we're still only

00:11:17.160 taken.

00:11:17.540 So that's our focus is exploited children, but we worked there.

00:11:20.340 We were in Afghanistan, get people out in, uh, after the U S removed, uh, uh, all the soldiers

00:11:27.100 there were, uh, at risk people in Afghanistan.

00:11:29.580 We were getting those out, some missionaries, interpreters, everybody knows the stories and

00:11:34.040 they've kind of seen what's going on.

00:11:35.200 One of the things I've seen is that only in our society protected by real men with guns, 0.86

00:11:43.100 which most people hate nowadays, right?

00:11:45.620 But in our society protected by real men with guns, uh, does, does a weirdo even get the 1.00

00:11:52.100 opportunity or the freedom to, as a man, let a baby suck on his nipple, right? 0.98

00:11:59.640 And like you said, like that is, so it's, it doesn't even exist anywhere else in the world 0.92

00:12:04.940 because in, in Afghanistan, what people don't realize, and I said this on a podcast not long

00:12:11.420 ago with a, uh, buddy of mine, Eddie Gallagher on his podcast, uh, long story short, when

00:12:17.380 we left Afghanistan, they were doing in Kabul, they're doing half naked yoga, women's rights. 0.92

00:12:22.460 They had a George Floyd mural painted up there of all things, right?

00:12:25.580 In Afghanistan.

00:12:26.140 Guess, guess what left the George Floyd mural was torn down and, uh, you know, their Taliban 1.00

00:12:32.080 mural went up and, uh, there's no more half naked yoga.

00:12:35.700 All the women are in burkas. 0.99

00:12:37.120 They can't go to school.

00:12:38.080 Like all of those things, all of those rights that we fought for LGBTQ rights, all of those

00:12:43.300 things that were fought for.

00:12:44.980 And actually in Kabul at the time, they go away at the snap of a finger.

00:12:50.420 You know why?

00:12:51.240 Cause real men with guns left.

00:12:52.960 And so the, uh, that we're keeping the Taliban in check. 0.73

00:12:57.040 So I say that to say it only exists, you know, stuff like this only exists in societies that

00:13:04.880 allow and protect its existence.

00:13:08.440 Uh, I would argue wholeheartedly that if our society changed to what we see in Afghanistan, 1.00

00:13:14.980 what's going on there now, or if our society changed to the lawlessness that you've seen

00:13:19.480 in Palestine with Hamas running roughshod over the Palestinian people and negatively impacting

00:13:24.860 the Israelis, I would argue that you would see, uh, in our society, you would see the

00:13:30.680 same things happening.

00:13:31.520 You would see those things going away because they are not normal.

00:13:36.200 Sorry to go on my tirade there, but it's, it only exists in our culture.

00:13:40.820 Well, and that's very true.

00:13:42.200 Uh, you know, a culture is only as strong as the positive things you denounce and the

00:13:47.020 negative things that you tolerate, uh, which is unfortunate that, that this has become

00:13:51.560 something that we're pushing for.

00:13:53.020 It seems, um, but you perform these, these stings and these ops, of course, lure, luring

00:14:00.380 in these, these pedophiles or, or even sometimes, uh, not limited to people who are only attracted

00:14:05.360 to minors.

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00:14:36.080 What happens then, you know, you, these boys and these girls, what happens after you guys

00:14:44.360 rescue them?

00:14:45.840 Yeah.

00:14:46.400 So there would be two different styles of operation, but, but both lead to what we call

00:14:53.020 a rescue.

00:14:53.740 One's a sting operation where we work with law enforcement and we never do this.

00:14:57.800 We're, we're law enforcement agents and we can build our own cases, but our goal was not

00:15:01.920 to do this on our own.

00:15:02.780 Our goal is to work with a local law enforcement agency, locals, not even federal, but locals

00:15:08.180 who have the ability to do a little bit more at the local or the state level.

00:15:13.700 And then if the feds want to adopt a case that would be good, they can adopt it down a solid

00:15:17.980 case down the road.

00:15:19.460 Uh, whether it's a, you know, it's a case of child porn or whatever.

00:15:22.400 And I won't go into the specifics of kind of how that works, but just realize that's how

00:15:26.420 the feds can best make their cases to adopt a solid state case.

00:15:30.740 It's very difficult for the feds as good as they are at working child exploitation and

00:15:35.560 human trafficking.

00:15:36.300 It's very difficult for them to make, uh, solid cases around the country regularly because

00:15:42.080 they're, they're just limited on, on bandwidth.

00:15:44.340 They don't have the bandwidth to do it.

00:15:46.160 So local agencies working in their local areas and going after, after, uh, local charges for

00:15:53.280 those who are traffickers, uh, is, is vitally important.

00:15:56.160 Or even if it's not trafficking, uh, just child exploitation.

00:15:59.780 And you, you mentioned something, it's not always a pedophile, right?

00:16:03.580 So that's what, you know, I like saying child exploitation, because it's not always somebody

00:16:08.100 who has some kind of sick thing where, you know, they're going to, uh, utilize a kid

00:16:13.540 for sexual, you know, services, right?

00:16:16.700 Um, it's, uh, we've seen gangs show up to, to steal these kids, right?

00:16:21.560 You've seen, uh, certain individuals show up that, that really don't have any desire to

00:16:26.260 have sex with a little boy or a little girl, but they're showing up to steal these kids and 1.00

00:16:31.200 then take them and sell them and use them. 1.00

00:16:32.640 Right.

00:16:32.820 We also see with the open border issue, we see a lot of, uh, illegal immigration.

00:16:38.100 The issues tied into this, I want to say out of 87 felony arrests that we made last

00:16:43.340 year, uh, over nine operations.

00:16:46.060 So out of, uh, over all of those, we averaged about one, uh, ice deportation, uh, per op,

00:16:55.300 right?

00:16:55.660 So out of those 87, about 10% of them, nine of them, uh, fell under some sort of ice deportation

00:17:02.140 nexus.

00:17:02.480 So there is the illegal immigration aspect of it that it's tied to too.

00:17:06.440 So I say all that to say, uh, when we target the individuals going after children, um,

00:17:12.660 that's a sting.

00:17:13.800 And the goal is, is to get those individuals off the streaks for everyone you arrest.

00:17:17.880 The statistic is that's 25 lives that would have been impacted.

00:17:21.100 They believe it's a higher statistic now there.

00:17:23.540 They believe it's a higher number now, but, uh, the statistic that we have, we still run

00:17:27.560 off as 25 per man.

00:17:28.880 So we arrest nine, well, that's, you know, 225 individuals that, um, that are no longer

00:17:35.100 going to target kids in that community.

00:17:37.940 Um, out of all of those, you might have one or two where it's a little bit deeper.

00:17:43.640 They can give you access to where kids are being sold, or maybe, maybe they're doing that

00:17:48.680 with their own kid.

00:17:49.600 And it's not some cabal that's all tied together that, that everybody just talked about forever.

00:17:53.940 Like, oh, there there's kids in the tunnels in Washington DC and all that stuff.

00:17:57.620 Right.

00:17:58.280 Um, I don't know if you've heard, I just, I've heard all kinds of stuff that people talk

00:18:03.560 about.

00:18:03.880 That's not what we're talking about.

00:18:05.360 I have never seen that to exist.

00:18:07.660 What I have seen exist is a person of trust, a dad, a mom, an aunt and uncle, an older brother

00:18:14.160 or sister.

00:18:15.540 Um, normally it's poverty based when you rest, when we see a child being rescued.

00:18:19.640 Um, and so targeting the individuals that are the consumers is the way that we get into

00:18:25.480 the system to find those children who are really being exploited.

00:18:28.920 And then we're able to conduct a rescue and get those children out.

00:18:32.380 Uh, the last aspect of it is partnering with, uh, other NGOs that provide aftercare and advocacy.

00:18:38.200 These are primarily, uh, women's groups.

00:18:41.260 Um, and what they like to do is, or what we'll do is set up an operation where we might get

00:18:46.220 in front of somebody in the sex work industry and they might be of age.

00:18:50.340 They can tie us to places where kids are being sold or we offer them the gospel, medical

00:18:55.800 care, everything that they need, spiritual, you know, work in the future.

00:19:00.100 You offer them a way out.

00:19:01.940 Hey, if you're scared, if you're being sold by somebody, we're offering you a way out.

00:19:06.000 You can go here and be taken care of.

00:19:07.540 And so that is also a style of rescue that we, we do as well.

00:19:11.380 So those are the, really the two different types of operations, stings and rescues.

00:19:15.860 That lead to the rescues of kids.

00:19:18.560 Uh, you asked what happens with the children.

00:19:20.840 Sorry for the long answer, but, uh, I come by it honestly, my dad's a Southern Baptist

00:19:25.260 pastor.

00:19:25.840 So I do come by these long winded answers, honestly.

00:19:29.360 But, um, what happens to the kids is most of the time there's state laws in place that

00:19:35.280 require DHR to be involved.

00:19:37.500 Unless of course there's a family member that can be accessed that can come and take kids.

00:19:42.040 So we've seen, uh, obviously DHR get involved and have to get the kids.

00:19:46.700 I'm thinking of one rescue in particular, uh, out of the state of Michigan where DHR was

00:19:51.120 involved there because there was no, there was no family, right?

00:19:53.880 There's both mom and dad were, uh, you know, drugs and jail was kind of their, you know,

00:20:00.380 their background.

00:20:01.020 So she had no way forward.

00:20:02.960 She was 14.

00:20:03.980 I think when she was taken in 15 when we found her.

00:20:06.640 Um, but then there's other kids where maybe grandparents, maybe there's an aunt or an

00:20:11.660 uncle, uh, that, that can receive that child and take custody in, in that way.

00:20:16.980 And then sometimes on rescues, it might be a mother who's in the sex work industry, who 1.00

00:20:21.220 has a child who's at risk.

00:20:22.680 And there's a lot of advocacy centers that, uh, now have the ability to take mother and 0.97

00:20:27.680 child if they will, will go to the advocacy center.

00:20:30.460 So those are the, those are kind of what happens with those individuals after they're

00:20:34.680 rescued, um, on that end.

00:20:37.780 I would imagine there's a big need for aftercare program and resources for all people, but

00:20:43.940 especially the young boys and girls.

00:20:46.060 You mentioned Afghanistan.

00:20:49.020 Uh, we've seen, you mentioned the border, yeah, this happening on a global perspective,

00:20:53.320 but how bad is this problem here in the United States?

00:20:57.360 Oh, it's, I mean, here in the U S it's, uh, we'll put it this way.

00:21:03.360 You know, we, we still do work internationally some, but our primary focus is here in the

00:21:08.740 U S because, uh, the problem is, uh, I don't want to say astronomical.

00:21:14.320 We could probably curb it a little bit.

00:21:17.080 And it's not that we don't have the tools to do it.

00:21:19.060 It's that we don't historically have the knowledge or the ability to do it appropriately.

00:21:23.420 So the example I like to use or what we do when we go in and work with law enforcement

00:21:27.180 agencies, it's not that the law enforcement agency, the local law enforcement agency doesn't

00:21:31.580 have the knowledge or the ability to do it.

00:21:33.580 They do.

00:21:34.340 They just generally get the order of operations wrong, which, which doesn't lead to a successful

00:21:38.480 prosecution or rescue at the end of the op, the order of operations, you know, please

00:21:42.500 excuse my dear aunt Sally.

00:21:43.780 You're, uh, you, you've been in school more recently than I have, you know, what is it?

00:21:47.320 Parentheses, exponents, multiplication, division, addition, subtraction, right?

00:21:50.020 Fifth grade arithmetic.

00:21:51.760 Um, it's, I can get any portion of that problem, right?

00:21:56.080 But if I get the order of operations wrong, my answer at the end will be wrong.

00:22:00.500 And generally what we see is we see law enforcement agencies, local agencies, and even the feds.

00:22:05.340 Sometimes they'll get a portion of the problem, right?

00:22:09.280 But the order's wrong.

00:22:10.560 So the overall answer at the end, which, which is a rescue or a successful prosecution, that

00:22:16.320 winds up being wrong all because we didn't get the order.

00:22:19.060 Right.

00:22:19.220 So what we primarily do is go in and say, guys, this is the order of operations.

00:22:23.040 It's not rocket science.

00:22:24.080 It's one of the easiest things you'll do.

00:22:25.680 This is the order of operations.

00:22:27.820 As long as we get all these right, our answer at the end will be right, which is a successful

00:22:32.220 prosecution and a rescue when there needs to be a rescue.

00:22:35.740 Um, and so I would say that the problem is big here, but it's not because we don't have

00:22:41.320 the ability to do it.

00:22:42.300 It's because a lot of times the entities that can do it lack the knowledge for the proper

00:22:47.900 order of operations.

00:22:49.960 Which is why what you guys is, what you guys do is so important.

00:22:53.560 Um, it seems this issue of child sex trafficking has become a partisan one, both from the stance

00:23:02.820 of the media and our government.

00:23:05.200 But I have an incredibly hard time grasping, grasping that.

00:23:10.100 Um, do you have any insight as to, to why this has seemingly become political and partisan

00:23:15.380 at that?

00:23:15.840 I think at some levels it is political and partisan.

00:23:19.700 Um, just because that's the nature of our world.

00:23:23.040 I mean, that's what we see on TV.

00:23:24.120 I mean, it's like what, it's like what you dealt with, you know, not, uh, you know, rub

00:23:27.860 salt in the wound.

00:23:28.660 I know you experienced a lot with having to swim against some flipping dude who couldn't

00:23:32.400 swim against other dudes, but he could swim against a bunch of females. 1.00

00:23:35.700 Right.

00:23:36.340 And you've dealt with that for a while.

00:23:37.960 And I remember when I saw that, I don't know, a couple of years ago, that should not,

00:23:42.120 my wife and I sat and talked about it.

00:23:43.460 That should not be a partisan issue.

00:23:45.140 We, we have daughters.

00:23:46.260 I've got three daughters. 0.98

00:23:47.800 Um, I w I want to crush that dude. 0.98

00:23:50.600 Right. 0.97

00:23:51.500 And I mean, heck I was a Navy SEAL.

00:23:53.000 So, I mean, I swam a lot.

00:23:54.600 I do understand the differences.

00:23:56.540 And so as you look at it, um, it shouldn't be a partisan issue, but for some reason they

00:24:02.660 made it a partisan issue.

00:24:04.360 Um, and, and somebody else's rights, this, this guy who has got a, by the way, the military

00:24:09.640 still considers, uh, transgenderism.

00:24:11.900 They're not combat, uh, effective.

00:24:13.380 Anybody's a transgender in the military can't deploy to combat and it's still considered

00:24:17.040 a mental issue to my knowledge.

00:24:18.480 Um, so you're dealing with that and it's your rights being trumped by somebody who has

00:24:25.620 something else even weirder going on.

00:24:27.680 Um, and, and so then they want to make it a partisan issue when it's really just a, in

00:24:32.560 my opinion, it's a human rights issue on the other end.

00:24:36.560 And so it's the same thing with human trafficking.

00:24:39.180 It's really a human rights issue, not a partisan issue, but I don't know why they make it that.

00:24:44.900 Maybe you can answer that better since you've experienced it more as to why you think they

00:24:48.620 make it partisan.

00:24:49.260 I will say this though, and I'll grant, let me grab my phone so I can read it right.

00:24:53.280 Again, we're from the state of Alabama.

00:24:55.760 So I'm going to read an article real quick.

00:24:58.180 And this went before our state legislation, which was, uh, worked on this bill, the sound

00:25:02.120 of freedom bill with representative Donna Gibbons.

00:25:04.340 She's the one who put it together.

00:25:05.760 And, um, let me see if I can find right here, what it says.

00:25:09.940 So it passed the house.

00:25:12.900 I think I'm confirming with this article right here.

00:25:15.540 I can text it to you.

00:25:16.420 See, yeah, the bill bill passed with a vote of 102 to zero.

00:25:19.960 So that's Democrats and Republicans.

00:25:21.820 It passed our house.

00:25:23.040 So I will say, and, and all, all it is, is it's adding sentencing.

00:25:26.520 It changes the language in our human trafficking charge.

00:25:28.700 Uh, it adds sentencing to anybody caught trafficking.

00:25:31.720 A child, uh, will, will receive a minimum of life in prison.

00:25:35.780 Like, so there's some things in that bill that are vitally important.

00:25:38.840 But Democrats and Republicans were on board with it.

00:25:41.680 When I went to the committee hearing and sat in the committee hearing, there were Democrats

00:25:44.240 and Republicans, and they were all like, no, we're all, we're all about this.

00:25:48.240 So I will say that sometimes I've seen when children are involved, you've made the point,

00:25:54.880 it shouldn't be a partisan issue.

00:25:56.880 Um, and I've seen a lot of times they don't make it a partisan issue.

00:26:00.460 Um, so I don't know, sorry again for the long winded answer, but I don't know why they

00:26:04.360 make it that way sometimes.

00:26:05.460 Well, I think y'all have some good stuff going down in Alabama.

00:26:09.780 Um, something incredibly interesting about Alabama and the only state we've seen this

00:26:13.900 thus far is in, in state legislature, uh, when they introduced their women's sports bill,

00:26:19.620 there were 17 Democrats who voted in favor.

00:26:22.620 That hasn't happened anywhere else.

00:26:25.100 17 Democrats who voted in favor of protecting women's sports.

00:26:27.600 So maybe y'all just, y'all got it right in Alabama.

00:26:30.960 Um, well, I will say our Democrats, but because of a, you know, this is the South and a lot

00:26:35.960 of even the old Democrats are very strong, uh, Christian beliefs, which lean more toward

00:26:41.600 conservative, uh, you know, conservatism or whatever.

00:26:43.980 It's not what you're seeing in DC a lot of times, which is probably, uh, what we see more

00:26:49.580 at a national level.

00:26:50.520 So, of course, um, and to your point, you know, as you said, you know, Christian conservatives,

00:26:56.480 you shared a bit about your faith, uh, which I think is a breath of fresh air.

00:27:03.300 Um, people, it seems as if we're going further and further away from people feeling confident

00:27:08.460 enough, secure enough, or, or even really having that faith background.

00:27:12.120 Um, so in your eyes, wrapping up here, you know, is there a faith component to all of

00:27:20.520 this?

00:27:22.240 Oh, well, yeah.

00:27:23.300 You know, I mean, of course I believe there is, you know, and it's, uh, and I believe that

00:27:27.640 faith is in the person of Jesus Christ.

00:27:29.800 There's a lot of people who will claim faith out there, but it's faith in what, uh, the

00:27:34.700 reason I believe that the faith component exists is one, because I've experienced it personally.

00:27:39.600 Uh, two, it's what, what drives me daily is my faith in him, right?

00:27:44.600 Uh, was it second Corinthians 12, nine says my grace is sufficient for you.

00:27:48.580 My strength is made perfect in your, in your weakness.

00:27:51.060 So his strength is made perfect in our weakness.

00:27:53.480 Uh, and I think that we see that all around us.

00:27:56.360 I know we see that as an organization, even though we're not a Christian based organization,

00:28:00.000 uh, we see that.

00:28:01.660 So yeah, the faith component is huge.

00:28:03.720 And what I would encourage your listeners, they might not believe, they might say this guy's

00:28:06.840 crazy believes in God or believes in Jesus or that Jesus is God or the son of God.

00:28:11.460 All I would encourage you to do is ask yourself or ask God, say, God, reveal yourself to me.

00:28:16.820 And I promise you, he will be in the person of Jesus Christ.

00:28:19.360 And you'll be left with one decision to accept him for who he is, the son of God who died for

00:28:23.340 the sins of the world, Lord and savior, or to deny him like pilot did and wash your hands

00:28:27.360 and say, I'm innocent of this man's blood.

00:28:28.700 Uh, so that is important to understand.

00:28:31.500 I had one team guide.

00:28:32.340 I'll leave you with this, uh, uh, a seal, another seal asked me at an event I was at

00:28:36.240 recently.

00:28:36.960 Uh, he just retired out of a seal team six.

00:28:39.420 He said, he said, man, I believe there's a God, but why is it?

00:28:42.400 Why is it Jesus?

00:28:43.260 So this is important for us to understand, understand on the faith side.

00:28:45.880 Why is it Jesus?

00:28:47.200 Jesus is the only one who claimed exclusivity.

00:28:49.540 If you look at every cult, every religion, they all will say we're Jesus like, right?

00:28:54.220 Muhammad, the next largest religion, uh, uh, that we could talk about, which is Islam.

00:28:58.800 Um, they say that Jesus is a great prophet.

00:29:01.800 That's what they say.

00:29:02.880 Jesus is the only one who doesn't claim anybody else. 0.88

00:29:05.360 He says in John chapter one, I am the way, the truth and the life.

00:29:09.620 No man comes to the father, but, but through me, right?

00:29:11.700 In the beginning was the word.

00:29:13.420 The word was God was with God.

00:29:14.740 It became flesh dwelt among men.

00:29:16.300 Uh, so it's important for us as Christians. 0.98

00:29:18.320 If you're a listener and you're like, this guy is insane. 0.58

00:29:20.840 Ask God to reveal himself to you.

00:29:22.100 We'll be the person of Jesus Christ.

00:29:23.180 If you are a Christian, you're talking about your faith, right? 0.99

00:29:25.680 Um, it's important that you understand what Jesus actually said, understand the word of

00:29:30.760 God, the scripture of God, because it's his word that will pierce your heart and the hearts 0.89

00:29:34.680 of others around you.

00:29:35.960 So that's why I believe the faith component is huge because we can't do it. 0.90

00:29:39.440 I know I'm not going to convince anybody, but the word of God will convince them, um,

00:29:44.620 as who they are.

00:29:45.920 There's a, sorry, not, not to continue this on, but there's a seal who trained transitioned

00:29:52.040 and he's now transitioned back.

00:29:54.420 And I heard him give his testimony.

00:29:55.740 He actually got saved in the process.

00:29:58.220 Um, and it was the Holy spirit that he would say that drug him out of this, this, uh, you

00:30:04.300 know, the, the transgender, uh, community or the transition process that he was in.

00:30:09.120 It was very interesting interview that I listened to him talk about.

00:30:12.200 So I believe faith is the only faith in Jesus Christ is the only way to effectively combat

00:30:17.180 what we're seeing now, especially with child exploitation.

00:30:20.680 Amen.

00:30:21.080 So what can people do?

00:30:24.600 Obviously, I mean, the expenses and the cost to perform these stings or, or these ops.

00:30:29.160 I mean, it's, it's, it's great.

00:30:32.080 So how can we support you?

00:30:34.500 Um, what can we do?

00:30:36.740 Yes.

00:30:37.200 So you can go to covenant rescue.org and you can look at the website.

00:30:40.620 There's going to be a donate page there.

00:30:42.120 Just a quick rundown of what it costs.

00:30:44.300 Uh, we're doing operations this weekend.

00:30:46.320 We did them last weekend.

00:30:47.320 It costs about $50,000 per operation with local law enforcement agency that generally

00:30:52.140 deals with an agency, a prosecutor's office, and maybe another agency might be involved.

00:30:56.880 That will lead to between nine and 12 arrests as our average last year, not ops, 87 arrests.

00:31:02.340 So do the math there.

00:31:04.200 Uh, and of those 87 arrests, about 10% of those will lead to a rescue of some kind of an at-risk

00:31:10.780 child.

00:31:11.680 Uh, because again, we primarily focus on child exploitation.

00:31:14.160 So that's a sting op, a rescue op costs about $15,000 to pull off.

00:31:18.460 And that gets our advocates safely in front of women in the sex work industry, uh, who 1.00

00:31:23.500 have been at risk for this.

00:31:24.820 Most of them since they were younger women.

00:31:26.340 So that's about $15,000 to pull those off.

00:31:29.040 Um, and we generally hit about four of those a year and get about 10 women per operation. 1.00

00:31:34.020 So, uh, that would be 40 rescues for lack of a better word, or that advocates get to make

00:31:39.000 that point of contact.

00:31:39.980 Uh, the final thing would be our training, which you were actually down here, uh, last

00:31:44.680 week and got to see all the law enforcement agencies involved in the training up the road.

00:31:48.640 Uh, and that is about $1,200 per law enforcement agent.

00:31:53.140 And I believe we had 55 in training the last week.

00:31:56.060 So, uh, all of these things cost money and it's donor dollars that, that, that really make

00:32:01.640 it happen.

00:32:02.060 So any way you can support or help with any of those, we have an operation plan per month.

00:32:06.540 Uh, and that's, uh, and that's about what they call.

00:32:09.340 So get on and support us in that way.

00:32:11.720 Definitely pray for us, uh, and, uh, and follow us on all the, I don't know, social medias

00:32:16.920 and all that stuff.

00:32:19.020 Covenant rescue.org.

00:32:21.220 Um, you heard them.

00:32:22.500 It costs money.

00:32:23.980 Um, and if you don't have money, of course, prayers always, but, but make sure you're sharing

00:32:28.580 these kinds of things.

00:32:29.840 Make sure you're sharing what they're doing, uh, because this truly is the Lord's work.

00:32:34.380 Uh, and so Jared, we are so grateful for you, um, for everything that you do for coming

00:32:38.720 on to, to share and provide a little insight for all of us who might not, uh, have the

00:32:43.660 same background or understanding of these issues that are going on, but we are so grateful

00:32:47.440 for you.

00:32:48.520 Yes, ma'am.

00:32:49.220 Thank you.

00:32:49.600 Thanks for all you do.

00:32:50.860 Jared mentioned how I got to go spend some time down in Alabama with, with him and covenant

00:32:55.980 rescue group a few weeks ago.

00:32:58.460 Um, this podcast was very mild.

00:33:01.400 Uh, we got to watch some videos, uh, get to see the behind the scenes and how the work

00:33:08.340 they do, the impact that's being had because of the work they do.

00:33:11.360 Um, and man, I've just felt so convicted since it is, uh, truly sickening.

00:33:18.860 Uh, it's heartbreaking the things that young girls and boys, and again, not limited to just

00:33:24.120 young girls and boys, what they're going through, uh, how it tears apart their families, of course,

00:33:29.160 how it impacts these, these victims for the rest of their lives.

00:33:32.200 Um, and again, sound of freedom, right?

00:33:36.020 Hollywood is not always reality.

00:33:38.660 Um, that's why it's important.

00:33:40.280 We support them again, go to covenantrescuegroup.org.

00:33:43.300 Uh, make sure you donate if you can, if you cannot, they have awesome merch like I'm wearing.

00:33:48.360 Um, I am proud to wear their name across my chest, on my shirts, on my hats, different

00:33:54.100 things.

00:33:54.820 Uh, so again, thank you guys for joining.

00:33:57.160 Uh, make sure you like and subscribe anywhere where you get your podcasts.

00:34:00.540 You can check us out at outkick.com and we will see you again next week.

Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - February 28, 2024

Shedding Light on the Dark Reality of Child Sex Trafficking and Exploitation

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