Shedding Light on the Dark Reality of Child Sex Trafficking and Exploitation
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Jared Hudson is a former United States Navy SEAL and Founder and CEO of Covenant Rescue Group, a non-profit organization dedicated to saving the lives of victims of sex trafficking and child sex trafficking. In this episode, Jared shares his story of how he got into law enforcement and how he became a Seal.
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With a towing capacity of 3,500 kilograms and a weighting depth of 900 millimeters,
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Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the Games for Girls podcast.
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Um, today's guest is someone, honestly, I admire a whole lot.
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Um, we talk a lot about this movement, right, this gender ideology movement,
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and how the most vulnerable populations are being preyed upon, right, women and children.
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But that is not limited to just the gender ideology movement.
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Of course, there are other issues going on around this country, really plaguing this country,
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really the world, uh, where children are being impacted.
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Uh, one of the most obvious since, I would say, the release of Sound of Freedom, uh, two years ago
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that, that gained, of course, national public attention, is the child sex exploitation and
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sex trafficking, um, ring and issues that are, that are, again, happening everywhere.
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We need people on the ground who are willing to fight this stuff.
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You know, it's one thing to take to social media and complain about it, acknowledge that
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it's a problem, which I would imagine 99% of the world should do.
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And if they can't do it, they should be able to do it.
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And that's what today's guest has really dedicated his time to doing.
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Uh, he was a Navy SEAL, he was then a law enforcement officer, and now he is a business
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owner and the, uh, CEO of a non-profit called Covenant Rescue Group.
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I've talked about this group in, um, several of my other podcasts, mentioning, um, the work
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that they're doing, encouraging everyone to go and support this group because that's what
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Uh, they need support, whether that's through finances, whether that's through, um, spreading
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public attention, garnering support, uh, they need your help, uh, which is why I could not
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be more excited to have on CEO of Covenant Rescue Group, Jared Hudson.
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Well, Jared, thank you so much for joining the Gains for Girls podcast.
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Um, before we kind of get into it, I wanted you to be able to tell us a little bit about
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your background and how you got started in this field.
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The thing I always start with is, uh, I'm a born again believer in the person of Jesus
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And the reason that that's important to me is because especially with what I do for a
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lot of work, um, you know, I'm a, I'm a husband, I'm a father, a business owner, uh,
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the CEO and founder of a nonprofit law enforcement agent, federal aid, all of these things.
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Uh, but if I go out and I get shot tonight on one of our operations and I die, all those
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Uh, and there's only one thing that's left and that's the eternal, uh, and that's in the
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And the reason I, I preface with that one, because it is the eternal, but number two, and,
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uh, where it kind of segues into my background is when I was 19 years old, went on a
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mission trip with our church and I just felt the Lord calling me to do something different.
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He opened the doors at the time for me to be able to get a contract to go to, uh, buds
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Um, so, uh, went to the Navy, went through, uh, seal training, buds, SQT, and became a
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U S Navy seal, which kind of got me into the line of work that I've been in, uh, you know,
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now, obviously for the duration of my adult career.
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Uh, when I got out of the seal teams in 2014, um, really got out around the end of 2013
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And when I got out of the seal teams, I became a law enforcement officer, uh, and did that
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And that's kind of what got me into the law enforcement side and doing the sex trafficking
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Uh, finishing my MBA is what allowed me to actually finish it at Liberty University, uh,
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when they offered the, the online, uh, masters of business program.
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And so when I was able to finish that, that kind of taught me how to, you know, a better
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My wife and I, uh, through some prayer and deliberation and some of the work we were doing
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Uh, we decided to, to start the, the nonprofit, uh, covenant rescue group.
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And that's, uh, about as quick as I can make it start to finish sealed, a law enforcement
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officer, uh, to, uh, to business owner and then nonprofit founder and, uh, and, and now
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So you've got some experience is what you're saying.
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Give a very brief mission statement for what covenant rescue group is and what you guys
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So basically we provide, uh, training equipment and, uh, you know, awareness that falls under
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We're not as big on awareness, but primarily training and equipment, uh, for law enforcement
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We have a program where, uh, some of our team goes around and, uh, deals with primarily
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high school students and teachers, but also teachers of, of the, the grade school students
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for what, uh, stateside, uh, sex trafficking looks like in particular sex trafficking, but
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just the general overview would be child exploitation.
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The primary thing that I focus on would be the law enforcement aspect.
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And that's where we work as a, a combat advisor with an agency.
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So when I say we provide training, um, equipment and awareness, uh, it's to those two groups,
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those two entities at risk people, um, which are primarily children or law enforcement agencies
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to target those who are going after, uh, the at risk people in the community.
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It seems like, um, over the past five years, really the past two years, I would say the topic
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of sex trafficking has been increasing globally, uh, sound of freedom came out.
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And what I would call an epidemic across the world.
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So from your perspective, someone who's involved in this space, how did we get here?
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I, you know, that's a, that's a great question.
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But I can't say whether the demand is greater now than it was a hundred years ago or 500
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Uh, as a matter of fact, it, you know, if you look at it historically, it, it might even
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possibly be, uh, more taboo now than it was, you know, way back, you know, in maybe Roman
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Uh, with that being said though, I think we're more in tune with it now, uh, in our culture.
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It's not like, uh, it's like when we would go fight in Afghanistan, my wife was more aware
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of what I was experiencing through video, through emails, text messages, news.
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Then maybe my grandmother was when my granddaddy was, you know, fighting or my great grandmother
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when my great granddaddy was fighting in world war two.
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So it's not that warfare had changed that much.
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It's that our access and our ability to understand warfare, even if we weren't involved, I think
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it's the same thing with, with sex trafficking or just human trafficking in general, whether
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Um, it's not so much that it's changed or that we even have more or less of it.
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It's that we're just more in tune with it because of, I mean, right now we're doing a podcast
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Um, you know, we have the ability to have access to this information more easily.
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So there might even been a heart to target this in the past, but because of technology,
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it's easier for us to target it and actually, you know, bring some of these perpetrators
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to justice and some of these victims, the, the advocacy that they need.
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Uh, the social media access that we have now, which I guess kind of begs the question, um,
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honestly, the access to pornography, do you think that that plays a role in this movement?
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And do you think there's almost been a push to, you mean, you've said the word taboo to
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Uh, there's been a, uh, several news stories going around this past week alone of, uh,
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men, males who claim to be women breastfeeding infants.
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And to me, I look at this and I see this for what it is, right?
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To me, this looks like sexual abuse of a child because any man forces a baby to latch on and
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That baby is being used as an erotic product and they do this under the guise of human rights.
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Uh, but let's be clear, uh, sexual abuse is not a human right for anyone.
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Uh, so do you think there's been a push almost to normalize pedophilia?
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And we see that, um, I even think one of the European Union or some countries in the European
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Union, uh, actually, uh, added pedophilia to the LGBTQ, whatever, you know, alphabet community
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They actually added that as a sexual orientation, which is, uh, and that's something that we've
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They've tried to make it happen in some areas around the U S it has not succeeded very well
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And, uh, for every place that you have, Hey, we're trying to normalize it.
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We just worked on legislation here, um, where they're making it like unbelievably, uh, tough
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on the perpetrator, uh, when it comes to things like that, people who would be messing with
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So yes, I do believe there is a push to normalize it, uh, in some sense or make it a sexual orientation,
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but there are also, uh, areas where there, where there's a, a massive push the other way
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to make sure that it, that it remains a criminal act remains a crime.
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One thing you mentioned, you know, with, uh, the, uh, uh, like with, with babies nursing
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on men, uh, I will argue, and this is just me going to countries where that are war torn,
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We were in Israel right after Hamas kicked off working there, uh, with IDF and it just buddies
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of mine within units, they're working in, in, uh, Gaza and Lebanon, supporting the need
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for exploited children, uh, primarily by Hamas and the Palestinians, but either way, uh,
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exploited Palestinian and Arab children and Israeli children, obviously we're still only
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So that's our focus is exploited children, but we worked there.
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We were in Afghanistan, get people out in, uh, after the U S removed, uh, uh, all the soldiers
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We were getting those out, some missionaries, interpreters, everybody knows the stories and
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One of the things I've seen is that only in our society protected by real men with guns,
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But in our society protected by real men with guns, uh, does, does a weirdo even get the
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opportunity or the freedom to, as a man, let a baby suck on his nipple, right?
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And like you said, like that is, so it's, it doesn't even exist anywhere else in the world
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because in, in Afghanistan, what people don't realize, and I said this on a podcast not long
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ago with a, uh, buddy of mine, Eddie Gallagher on his podcast, uh, long story short, when
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we left Afghanistan, they were doing in Kabul, they're doing half naked yoga, women's rights.
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They had a George Floyd mural painted up there of all things, right?
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Guess, guess what left the George Floyd mural was torn down and, uh, you know, their Taliban
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mural went up and, uh, there's no more half naked yoga.
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Like all of those things, all of those rights that we fought for LGBTQ rights, all of those
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And actually in Kabul at the time, they go away at the snap of a finger.
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And so the, uh, that we're keeping the Taliban in check.
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So I say that to say it only exists, you know, stuff like this only exists in societies that
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Uh, I would argue wholeheartedly that if our society changed to what we see in Afghanistan,
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what's going on there now, or if our society changed to the lawlessness that you've seen
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in Palestine with Hamas running roughshod over the Palestinian people and negatively impacting
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the Israelis, I would argue that you would see, uh, in our society, you would see the
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You would see those things going away because they are not normal.
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Sorry to go on my tirade there, but it's, it only exists in our culture.
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Uh, you know, a culture is only as strong as the positive things you denounce and the
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negative things that you tolerate, uh, which is unfortunate that, that this has become
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It seems, um, but you perform these, these stings and these ops, of course, lure, luring
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in these, these pedophiles or, or even sometimes, uh, not limited to people who are only attracted
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What happens then, you know, you, these boys and these girls, what happens after you guys
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So there would be two different styles of operation, but, but both lead to what we call
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One's a sting operation where we work with law enforcement and we never do this.
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We're, we're law enforcement agents and we can build our own cases, but our goal was not
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Our goal is to work with a local law enforcement agency, locals, not even federal, but locals
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who have the ability to do a little bit more at the local or the state level.
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And then if the feds want to adopt a case that would be good, they can adopt it down a solid
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Uh, whether it's a, you know, it's a case of child porn or whatever.
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And I won't go into the specifics of kind of how that works, but just realize that's how
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the feds can best make their cases to adopt a solid state case.
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It's very difficult for the feds as good as they are at working child exploitation and
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It's very difficult for them to make, uh, solid cases around the country regularly because
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they're, they're just limited on, on bandwidth.
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So local agencies working in their local areas and going after, after, uh, local charges for
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those who are traffickers, uh, is, is vitally important.
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Or even if it's not trafficking, uh, just child exploitation.
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And you, you mentioned something, it's not always a pedophile, right?
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So that's what, you know, I like saying child exploitation, because it's not always somebody
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who has some kind of sick thing where, you know, they're going to, uh, utilize a kid
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Um, it's, uh, we've seen gangs show up to, to steal these kids, right?
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You've seen, uh, certain individuals show up that, that really don't have any desire to
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have sex with a little boy or a little girl, but they're showing up to steal these kids and
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We also see with the open border issue, we see a lot of, uh, illegal immigration.
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The issues tied into this, I want to say out of 87 felony arrests that we made last
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So out of, uh, over all of those, we averaged about one, uh, ice deportation, uh, per op,
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So out of those 87, about 10% of them, nine of them, uh, fell under some sort of ice deportation
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So there is the illegal immigration aspect of it that it's tied to too.
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So I say all that to say, uh, when we target the individuals going after children, um,
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And the goal is, is to get those individuals off the streaks for everyone you arrest.
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The statistic is that's 25 lives that would have been impacted.
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They believe it's a higher statistic now there.
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They believe it's a higher number now, but, uh, the statistic that we have, we still run
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So we arrest nine, well, that's, you know, 225 individuals that, um, that are no longer
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Um, out of all of those, you might have one or two where it's a little bit deeper.
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They can give you access to where kids are being sold, or maybe, maybe they're doing that
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And it's not some cabal that's all tied together that, that everybody just talked about forever.
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Like, oh, there there's kids in the tunnels in Washington DC and all that stuff.
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Um, I don't know if you've heard, I just, I've heard all kinds of stuff that people talk
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What I have seen exist is a person of trust, a dad, a mom, an aunt and uncle, an older brother
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Um, normally it's poverty based when you rest, when we see a child being rescued.
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Um, and so targeting the individuals that are the consumers is the way that we get into
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the system to find those children who are really being exploited.
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And then we're able to conduct a rescue and get those children out.
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Uh, the last aspect of it is partnering with, uh, other NGOs that provide aftercare and advocacy.
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Um, and what they like to do is, or what we'll do is set up an operation where we might get
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in front of somebody in the sex work industry and they might be of age.
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They can tie us to places where kids are being sold or we offer them the gospel, medical
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care, everything that they need, spiritual, you know, work in the future.
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Hey, if you're scared, if you're being sold by somebody, we're offering you a way out.
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And so that is also a style of rescue that we, we do as well.
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So those are the, really the two different types of operations, stings and rescues.
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Sorry for the long answer, but, uh, I come by it honestly, my dad's a Southern Baptist
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So I do come by these long winded answers, honestly.
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But, um, what happens to the kids is most of the time there's state laws in place that
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Unless of course there's a family member that can be accessed that can come and take kids.
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So we've seen, uh, obviously DHR get involved and have to get the kids.
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I'm thinking of one rescue in particular, uh, out of the state of Michigan where DHR was
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involved there because there was no, there was no family, right?
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There's both mom and dad were, uh, you know, drugs and jail was kind of their, you know,
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I think when she was taken in 15 when we found her.
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Um, but then there's other kids where maybe grandparents, maybe there's an aunt or an
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uncle, uh, that, that can receive that child and take custody in, in that way.
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And then sometimes on rescues, it might be a mother who's in the sex work industry, who
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And there's a lot of advocacy centers that, uh, now have the ability to take mother and
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child if they will, will go to the advocacy center.
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So those are the, those are kind of what happens with those individuals after they're
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I would imagine there's a big need for aftercare program and resources for all people, but
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Uh, we've seen, you mentioned the border, yeah, this happening on a global perspective,
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but how bad is this problem here in the United States?
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Oh, it's, I mean, here in the U S it's, uh, we'll put it this way.
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You know, we, we still do work internationally some, but our primary focus is here in the
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U S because, uh, the problem is, uh, I don't want to say astronomical.
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And it's not that we don't have the tools to do it.
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It's that we don't historically have the knowledge or the ability to do it appropriately.
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So the example I like to use or what we do when we go in and work with law enforcement
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agencies, it's not that the law enforcement agency, the local law enforcement agency doesn't
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They just generally get the order of operations wrong, which, which doesn't lead to a successful
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prosecution or rescue at the end of the op, the order of operations, you know, please
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You're, uh, you, you've been in school more recently than I have, you know, what is it?
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Parentheses, exponents, multiplication, division, addition, subtraction, right?
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Um, it's, I can get any portion of that problem, right?
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But if I get the order of operations wrong, my answer at the end will be wrong.
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And generally what we see is we see law enforcement agencies, local agencies, and even the feds.
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Sometimes they'll get a portion of the problem, right?
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So the overall answer at the end, which, which is a rescue or a successful prosecution, that
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winds up being wrong all because we didn't get the order.
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So what we primarily do is go in and say, guys, this is the order of operations.
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As long as we get all these right, our answer at the end will be right, which is a successful
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prosecution and a rescue when there needs to be a rescue.
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Um, and so I would say that the problem is big here, but it's not because we don't have
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It's because a lot of times the entities that can do it lack the knowledge for the proper
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Which is why what you guys is, what you guys do is so important.
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Um, it seems this issue of child sex trafficking has become a partisan one, both from the stance
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But I have an incredibly hard time grasping, grasping that.
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Um, do you have any insight as to, to why this has seemingly become political and partisan
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I think at some levels it is political and partisan.
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Um, just because that's the nature of our world.
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I mean, it's like what, it's like what you dealt with, you know, not, uh, you know, rub
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I know you experienced a lot with having to swim against some flipping dude who couldn't
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swim against other dudes, but he could swim against a bunch of females.
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And I remember when I saw that, I don't know, a couple of years ago, that should not,
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And so as you look at it, um, it shouldn't be a partisan issue, but for some reason they
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Um, and, and somebody else's rights, this, this guy who has got a, by the way, the military
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Anybody's a transgender in the military can't deploy to combat and it's still considered
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Um, so you're dealing with that and it's your rights being trumped by somebody who has
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Um, and, and so then they want to make it a partisan issue when it's really just a, in
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my opinion, it's a human rights issue on the other end.
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And so it's the same thing with human trafficking.
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It's really a human rights issue, not a partisan issue, but I don't know why they make it that.
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Maybe you can answer that better since you've experienced it more as to why you think they
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I will say this though, and I'll grant, let me grab my phone so I can read it right.
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And this went before our state legislation, which was, uh, worked on this bill, the sound
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of freedom bill with representative Donna Gibbons.
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And, um, let me see if I can find right here, what it says.
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I think I'm confirming with this article right here.
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See, yeah, the bill bill passed with a vote of 102 to zero.
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So I will say, and, and all, all it is, is it's adding sentencing.
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It changes the language in our human trafficking charge.
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Uh, it adds sentencing to anybody caught trafficking.
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A child, uh, will, will receive a minimum of life in prison.
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Like, so there's some things in that bill that are vitally important.
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But Democrats and Republicans were on board with it.
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When I went to the committee hearing and sat in the committee hearing, there were Democrats
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and Republicans, and they were all like, no, we're all, we're all about this.
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So I will say that sometimes I've seen when children are involved, you've made the point,
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Um, and I've seen a lot of times they don't make it a partisan issue.
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Um, so I don't know, sorry again for the long winded answer, but I don't know why they
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Well, I think y'all have some good stuff going down in Alabama.
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Um, something incredibly interesting about Alabama and the only state we've seen this
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thus far is in, in state legislature, uh, when they introduced their women's sports bill,
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17 Democrats who voted in favor of protecting women's sports.
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So maybe y'all just, y'all got it right in Alabama.
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Um, well, I will say our Democrats, but because of a, you know, this is the South and a lot
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of even the old Democrats are very strong, uh, Christian beliefs, which lean more toward
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conservative, uh, you know, conservatism or whatever.
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It's not what you're seeing in DC a lot of times, which is probably, uh, what we see more
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So, of course, um, and to your point, you know, as you said, you know, Christian conservatives,
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you shared a bit about your faith, uh, which I think is a breath of fresh air.
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Um, people, it seems as if we're going further and further away from people feeling confident
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enough, secure enough, or, or even really having that faith background.
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Um, so in your eyes, wrapping up here, you know, is there a faith component to all of
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You know, I mean, of course I believe there is, you know, and it's, uh, and I believe that
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There's a lot of people who will claim faith out there, but it's faith in what, uh, the
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reason I believe that the faith component exists is one, because I've experienced it personally.
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Uh, two, it's what, what drives me daily is my faith in him, right?
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Uh, was it second Corinthians 12, nine says my grace is sufficient for you.
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My strength is made perfect in your, in your weakness.
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So his strength is made perfect in our weakness.
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Uh, and I think that we see that all around us.
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I know we see that as an organization, even though we're not a Christian based organization,
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And what I would encourage your listeners, they might not believe, they might say this guy's
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crazy believes in God or believes in Jesus or that Jesus is God or the son of God.
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All I would encourage you to do is ask yourself or ask God, say, God, reveal yourself to me.
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And I promise you, he will be in the person of Jesus Christ.
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And you'll be left with one decision to accept him for who he is, the son of God who died for
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the sins of the world, Lord and savior, or to deny him like pilot did and wash your hands
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I'll leave you with this, uh, uh, a seal, another seal asked me at an event I was at
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He said, he said, man, I believe there's a God, but why is it?
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So this is important for us to understand, understand on the faith side.
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If you look at every cult, every religion, they all will say we're Jesus like, right?
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Muhammad, the next largest religion, uh, uh, that we could talk about, which is Islam.
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Jesus is the only one who doesn't claim anybody else.
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He says in John chapter one, I am the way, the truth and the life.
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No man comes to the father, but, but through me, right?
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If you're a listener and you're like, this guy is insane.
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If you are a Christian, you're talking about your faith, right?
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Um, it's important that you understand what Jesus actually said, understand the word of
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God, the scripture of God, because it's his word that will pierce your heart and the hearts
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So that's why I believe the faith component is huge because we can't do it.
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I know I'm not going to convince anybody, but the word of God will convince them, um,
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There's a, sorry, not, not to continue this on, but there's a seal who trained transitioned
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Um, and it was the Holy spirit that he would say that drug him out of this, this, uh, you
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know, the, the transgender, uh, community or the transition process that he was in.
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It was very interesting interview that I listened to him talk about.
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So I believe faith is the only faith in Jesus Christ is the only way to effectively combat
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what we're seeing now, especially with child exploitation.
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Obviously, I mean, the expenses and the cost to perform these stings or, or these ops.
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So you can go to covenant rescue.org and you can look at the website.
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It costs about $50,000 per operation with local law enforcement agency that generally
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deals with an agency, a prosecutor's office, and maybe another agency might be involved.
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That will lead to between nine and 12 arrests as our average last year, not ops, 87 arrests.
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Uh, and of those 87 arrests, about 10% of those will lead to a rescue of some kind of an at-risk
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Uh, because again, we primarily focus on child exploitation.
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So that's a sting op, a rescue op costs about $15,000 to pull off.
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And that gets our advocates safely in front of women in the sex work industry, uh, who
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Um, and we generally hit about four of those a year and get about 10 women per operation.
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So, uh, that would be 40 rescues for lack of a better word, or that advocates get to make
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Uh, the final thing would be our training, which you were actually down here, uh, last
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week and got to see all the law enforcement agencies involved in the training up the road.
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Uh, and that is about $1,200 per law enforcement agent.
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And I believe we had 55 in training the last week.
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So, uh, all of these things cost money and it's donor dollars that, that, that really make
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So any way you can support or help with any of those, we have an operation plan per month.
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Uh, and that's, uh, and that's about what they call.
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Definitely pray for us, uh, and, uh, and follow us on all the, I don't know, social medias
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Um, and if you don't have money, of course, prayers always, but, but make sure you're sharing
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Make sure you're sharing what they're doing, uh, because this truly is the Lord's work.
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Uh, and so Jared, we are so grateful for you, um, for everything that you do for coming
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on to, to share and provide a little insight for all of us who might not, uh, have the
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same background or understanding of these issues that are going on, but we are so grateful
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Jared mentioned how I got to go spend some time down in Alabama with, with him and covenant
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Uh, we got to watch some videos, uh, get to see the behind the scenes and how the work
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they do, the impact that's being had because of the work they do.
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Um, and man, I've just felt so convicted since it is, uh, truly sickening.
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Uh, it's heartbreaking the things that young girls and boys, and again, not limited to just
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young girls and boys, what they're going through, uh, how it tears apart their families, of course,
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how it impacts these, these victims for the rest of their lives.
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We support them again, go to covenantrescuegroup.org.
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