Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - Small Business & MAHA Movement： Karen Kerrigan on Economics, Health, and the Big Beautiful Bill ｜ Gaines for Girls

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00:00:40.360 Today's episode, we are going to be talking all things small business, entrepreneurship.

00:00:46.240 Weirdly enough, how that intersects with the MAHA movement, the Make America Healthy Again movement.

00:00:52.800 We saw a lot of news over the past really few weeks, over the past seven days of coming from RFK, coming from Brooke Rollins, coming from President Trump himself, surrounding making America healthy again.

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00:02:45.080 We're talking today to Karen Kerrigan.

00:02:48.240 She is a certified health and wellness coach.

00:02:51.720 She is the founder of Steps to Wellness.

00:02:54.540 She is the president and CEO of Small Business and Entrepreneurship Council, SBE Council.

00:03:02.200 So very excited to get into this conversation with her today and to hear specifically how a lot of the things we're seeing from the Trump administration as it pertains to the big, beautiful bill, as it pertains to things like eliminating and terminating 22 mRNA contracts.

00:03:19.280 We just saw that from RFK this past week.

00:03:21.840 How that affects small businesses.

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00:03:28.700 Well, Karen, welcome to the GAINS for Girls podcast.

00:03:32.200 I am so excited to have you on the different things that we are going to get into today.

00:03:37.060 But before we do, will you just take a brief moment and tell us a little bit about yourself, your role, and how you got involved with where you are?

00:03:45.320 I think specifically with the Maha movement, a lot of the meat of what I want to talk to you about today.

00:03:50.480 Of course, of course.

00:03:52.120 Well, you know, I run a group called the Small Business and Entrepreneurship Council, and we're an advocacy research and education organization dedicated to promoting entrepreneurship, protecting small business.

00:04:05.200 And I actually founded this group more than 30 years ago.

00:04:09.260 So I've been at this for quite a long time, Riley, and focusing on the range of issues that impact entrepreneurship, healthy startup activity and small business growth, taxes, regulation, the cost of health care, technology, intellectual property, the whole range of issues.

00:04:26.840 And have very much focused on, since our founding, the health care issue and access to affordable health care.

00:04:35.500 And I mean, that's always been a critical issue for small business owners and their employees.

00:04:40.340 And, you know, along the way, we've always noted that, you know, in order for businesses to have, individuals to have access, and for order for entrepreneurs to be able to be disruptors in this system and to be creators and to, you know, provide goods and services that match the needs of the marketplace, that you do need less regulation, that the government has to get out of the way.

00:05:08.820 That it has to be, you know, that it has to be, you know, sort of promote entrepreneurship in this whole sector.

00:05:13.160 So that's one piece.

00:05:14.920 I've always been big in the health and wellness, you know, space as an individual, as a former athlete, as, you know, high school, college athlete.

00:05:24.060 My daughter was a, you know, a D1 athlete as well.

00:05:28.300 And mental health, health, and small businesses are big players in this whole marketplace.

00:05:35.160 The health and wellness sector is a $2 trillion sector in the U.S.

00:05:40.540 It leads the global market in health and wellness.

00:05:45.060 And small businesses, entrepreneurs are at the heart of this.

00:05:47.600 And we want to make sure that when policies are being considered, they really are the solution to Tamaha and to, you know, having a transformative effect on the health and well-being of Americans.

00:06:03.100 Yeah, it's pretty amazing.

00:06:05.420 And I think it's something that a lot of people who maybe aren't involved in that sector, you just don't really think about.

00:06:13.880 Admittedly, myself being one of them.

00:06:15.880 So that's pretty remarkable.

00:06:18.120 Speaking of the success of small businesses that you have seen, I would imagine that one of those pillars that small businesses especially have to kind of fight back against, especially in big cities, is crime.

00:06:32.920 Now, I know you live a little bit outside of D.C., Washington, D.C.

00:06:37.560 We saw just this week where President Trump has unveiled this new plan to keep Washington, D.C. safe.

00:06:46.340 How does this impact you personally and, again, from the small business lens of America?

00:06:54.300 Well, for small businesses, this is a huge issue.

00:06:57.780 I mean, crime issues, the crime issue, particularly in urban areas.

00:07:02.840 And the bottom line is that if urban America is to survive and do well, we need small businesses.

00:07:11.900 You know, they are the economic driver of local communities throughout our nation.

00:07:16.580 And certainly that is the case in urban America.

00:07:19.880 So the crime issue is huge.

00:07:21.840 I mean, they need a safe environment.

00:07:24.200 They need for people to feel safe, you know, to come in, you know, to cities and to urban areas.

00:07:31.920 And unfortunately, with D.C., it has been a really, really challenging and difficult situation.

00:07:39.580 You've seen a lot of really great restaurants, actually, you know, closing, businesses closing.

00:07:46.180 First, there was the COVID wave, right, where we lost people.

00:07:48.980 And obviously, they didn't have the foot track of it and the individuals to support their businesses and then crime on top of that.

00:07:56.500 So, yes, having this is a pillar.

00:07:59.500 This is central to an ecosystem that supports small business creation and successful growth is to have a safe environment and to have, you know, limited crime in a crime-free environment.

00:08:14.920 Or businesses are not going to start up.

00:08:17.520 They're going to leave.

00:08:18.240 They're going to go to the suburbs or to other areas where they actually, you know, have people and feel safe and can conduct their business.

00:08:25.760 Yeah, that's right.

00:08:28.100 I was amazed to hear some of these statistics that he was rattling off in his press conference this week saying that Washington, D.C. had a higher murder rate than, I mean, some of the worst countries like like Bogota or Colombia or, of course, cities in those countries.

00:08:44.660 It was amazing to me to hear this.

00:08:47.700 So, if there's anyone that can do it, I believe it's President Trump.

00:08:52.460 I think it's kind of the Trump way is to do in one day what has taken, I mean, or I guess what D.C. politicians haven't done in decades.

00:09:01.080 So, hopefully, we will see some big progress there.

00:09:03.520 I kind of want to ask you about some of the relevant news surrounding the MAHA movement.

00:09:10.480 I will say, I think the MAGA collab, if you will, was one of the most transformative, effective collaborations that we saw leading up, especially to the election.

00:09:22.900 To bring so many people on board, so many people who care about health and wellness and fitness and the future of the next generation.

00:09:31.280 I thought it was just one of the most remarkable things.

00:09:34.340 And to see that everything that RFK has done prior to being confirmed, being confirmed since, one of those things being just this week, we saw where the HHS announced that they would terminate.

00:09:47.720 I believe it was 22 mRNA vaccine development investments, simply saying, look, this data, it shows that these vaccines fail to protect effectively against upper respiratory infections like COVID and the flu.

00:10:01.280 This was over $500 million in funding.

00:10:07.140 That's what was pulled from these contracts.

00:10:09.680 He said these mRNA technology, they pose more risk than they do benefits.

00:10:15.320 I want to ask you, when something like this happens, is big pharma really going to be sweating?

00:10:23.240 Oh, I think so.

00:10:25.080 I mean, obviously, when you look at the entire innovative ecosystem, right?

00:10:31.280 You know, which includes not only big pharma, but also, like every industry in this country, Riley, they are dominated by innovative small businesses.

00:10:43.920 So, you know, you do have, particularly in the biopharmaceutical industry, 85% of those companies have fewer than 50 employees.

00:10:56.080 So, you know, there is sort of a downstream effect on an action like that, what it means for innovation and what it means for the industry.

00:11:05.880 Okay, so I think, you know, there's obviously a lot of concern within the industry itself and, you know, what that means for, you know, innovation moving forward.

00:11:17.620 And I think with any industry, they do want certainty, right?

00:11:21.740 In terms of what are the rules, what are the regulations, what are we going to allow in terms of research and development and getting drugs to the finish line?

00:11:31.180 Because it does take more than 10 years and billions and billions and billions of dollars, you know, of R&D to get drugs over the finish line.

00:11:40.600 So, I think with this announcement, I think we need a what's next.

00:11:44.420 I think we need, okay, what is the broader message in terms of drug R&D and in terms of, because, look, there's been a lot of progress, as you know, Riley, right, when it comes to biopharmaceuticals and drugs and medical devices and, you know, the progress that we've made.

00:12:04.240 Like, yeah, there's been a lot of disease in this country and we've been more focused on the reactive as opposed to the proactive end.

00:12:10.560 And that's where I think small businesses can make a difference in terms of the transformative changes and being more proactive as opposed to addressing disease after it happens.

00:12:22.600 But I do think, you know, my hope now is that there is like, okay, what is next?

00:12:28.780 Is there going to be one-size-fits-all mandates?

00:12:30.840 Are we developing a new system where we can move drugs more rapidly to market?

00:12:35.780 What are going to be the checks and balances?

00:12:37.580 What is the research that is going to be used?

00:12:40.420 So, I think these are the questions that I hear from some of the smaller innovators in the ecosystem because this does have a downstream impact on them.

00:12:51.500 And I hope we're just not throwing the baby out with the bathwater and just say, yeah, we are really committed still to innovative solutions in this whole space because this is where America leads.

00:13:03.500 And we want to continue to be the leader in innovation in this regard.

00:13:08.500 Yeah, and you mentioned being proactive.

00:13:11.640 This is something that we see other countries do far better than the U.S.

00:13:16.380 Obviously, I think because when you have these pharmaceutical companies or insurers or healthcare facilities or whatever it is who are able to profit off of us as Americans being sick,

00:13:27.920 there's not necessarily a huge incentive to prioritize preventative measures, but certainly something that hopefully we see more from this administration.

00:13:40.720 And I know last week, President Trump, I think he sent 17 or letters to, I think, 17 of the leading pharmaceutical companies outlining steps that they must take to lower these prescription drug prices for Americans,

00:13:55.260 including matching the lowest prices offered in these other developed nations, saying something to the effect of,

00:14:02.140 there is no reason why American consumers should pay exorbitantly more than other countries for the same drug in the same packaging manufactured in the exact same factory.

00:14:13.860 So hopefully, again, we see some sort of what's next action that will in turn benefit consumers, people who need these medications, and small businesses especially.

00:14:26.800 We saw just last week where USDA Secretary Brooke Rollins, who is awesome, by the way, and RFK,

00:14:36.820 they announced that states can now opt out of allowing for junk food to be purchased using SNAP benefits,

00:14:45.240 meaning our tax dollars are no longer required to fund hot Cheetos and soda for those who are living on food stamps.

00:14:55.660 Is that right?

00:14:56.800 Something along those lines, yes.

00:14:59.180 I think, you know, this is a huge education issue, as you know, Riley, and where we really,

00:15:07.340 where I'm very passionate about, you know, in terms of ways that the business community, you know,

00:15:13.160 can work with organizations like schools in terms of educating youth and educating families about the importance of real food, right?

00:15:23.340 And how junk food and, you know, the preservatives and everything that's put into that, how it affects development along the way, brain development, health.

00:15:35.460 So I think that's one small change, but I think there's a cultural shift and a cultural change and an opportunity for the administration to lead and take this Maha movement to the next level in terms of education.

00:15:51.840 And so that, yeah, so, and of course, policies, you're right, that can encourage people to be more healthy, right?

00:16:03.640 Being able to use health savings accounts, dollars, allowing people to use that for gym memberships or, you know, other type of proactive, preemptive, you know, type of care for themselves that then will lower the cost in the back end, right?

00:16:19.700 I mean, lower the cost of health care overall.

00:16:22.520 So, yeah, there's so many more policy steps that need to be taken widely that we're pushing and, but we're making great progress.

00:16:30.140 And we saw some of those in the big, beautiful bill as well.

00:16:34.460 Yeah.

00:16:35.360 Tell me more about what you're doing, what you and your crew are doing with schools and youth.

00:16:41.040 I think this is incredibly important, obviously, as someone who is not too far removed from high school, from college.

00:16:50.040 I have a little sister who's still in high school.

00:16:52.540 What is it that you guys are doing to encourage this in younger generations?

00:16:59.860 Well, a lot of the change happens, is going to happen at the local level, rightly, right?

00:17:04.180 I mean, yeah, we need support and we need cheerleading at the federal level.

00:17:08.260 We need the right policies.

00:17:11.820 I think it's going to be, yeah, hopefully the administration will get the president's council on physical fitness and health and wellness,

00:17:21.880 whatever they call it, up and running again, because I think that can have a huge impact.

00:17:26.960 But, you know, we're really working in, I mean, as a local person that lives in a local community,

00:17:33.580 I serve on my local Vienna Business Association and run the health and wellness committee of this group.

00:17:42.160 And basically, a lot is about pulling together the business community and empowering them,

00:17:50.340 establishing health and wellness events in local communities, regular events, bringing in the community,

00:17:56.600 having business owners, whether they're in the fitness space, the nutrition space, chiropractic care,

00:18:04.680 the ambassadors and going out to the schools and educating, you know, students,

00:18:10.100 either in forums that are hosted by elementary schools, middle schools or high schools.

00:18:16.160 I mean, integrating these business owners in the community, they're really passionate about this.

00:18:21.200 So we're developing models and events and forums that could be replicated, you know, throughout the country.

00:18:30.020 Ones that have worked in the local level in several communities and said, look,

00:18:34.420 every chamber of commerce can put together a health and wellness committee that does a committee that does X, Y and Z,

00:18:41.420 you know, that does regular outreach to seniors, families, and most importantly, the youth, you know, of this country.

00:18:53.760 So we could have this transformative shift for the long term.

00:18:59.200 Yeah, I love this.

00:19:00.120 And something that I have learned over the past few years is that grassroots efforts are so much more effective.

00:19:09.060 I think at least in terms of what you see, like, like pretty immediate impact,

00:19:18.060 grassroots efforts are so much more effective than what we see oftentimes at a national or federal level being instituted.

00:19:27.020 So I think this is incredible and something that is certainly needed.

00:19:30.920 And I think you're right.

00:19:31.720 I think that that businesses probably for a while have been desperate to get involved in this way, but but maybe haven't known how.

00:19:39.780 So thank you for giving them that opportunity.

00:19:42.280 But speaking of national efforts, we did just see where the president, he reinstated the presidential fitness test.

00:19:48.920 This was after being, you know, shelved, shelved for 13 years under, I believe it was the Obama administration.

00:19:56.780 They said they're not going to do this anymore.

00:19:59.440 President Trump said we're bringing it back.

00:20:01.260 So I think it's it's sit ups.

00:20:02.900 I think it's a mile run.

00:20:04.080 It's pull ups.

00:20:05.080 It's the sit and reach test.

00:20:06.580 There's some other components to it.

00:20:08.560 What are your thoughts here on seeing both middle schools and high schools reinstate this back into their curriculum?

00:20:15.820 I think it's a great idea.

00:20:17.980 And I survived the presidential physical.

00:20:20.920 Yes.

00:20:21.400 Right.

00:20:22.120 I mean, of course, we saw the response of the some of the people who've had the trauma, you know, of this test.

00:20:28.640 But it was all good.

00:20:29.700 I mean, movement is so important.

00:20:33.640 Right.

00:20:34.780 And and we need to hold kids to high standards or to some type of standards.

00:20:39.780 Right.

00:20:40.280 And I think this is a really, really good idea to instill the importance of fitness.

00:20:45.420 I mean, I'd love to see the gym class come back.

00:20:48.380 I mean, I had that all through high school and had a great education to boot.

00:20:53.200 So it didn't get in the way, you know, of other classes or math or science or some of the other important, you know, classes that we have.

00:21:04.540 But I think it's I think it's just a really good idea.

00:21:07.360 But movement, physical fitness, again, is one of the core, most important things that needs to be instilled in children.

00:21:16.280 And that needs to continue over the lifetime if individuals are going to have a healthy life and a healthy lifespan.

00:21:23.700 So I'm 100 percent for it.

00:21:26.820 I think it's great.

00:21:27.980 I think it's wonderful.

00:21:28.780 And I think the kids are going to enjoy it.

00:21:30.560 I think it's going to be fun.

00:21:31.700 You make it fun.

00:21:32.660 Right.

00:21:33.360 Totally.

00:21:34.120 We did this in school.

00:21:35.580 Obviously, it wasn't, I guess, at the time being federally required to do it, but we still did it.

00:21:43.480 And I will never forget there was this girl who was a gymnast who was in my grade and she could knock out some pull-ups. 0.99

00:21:51.360 And I will never forget to this day.

00:21:52.940 I remember her name.

00:21:54.360 I told myself I'm not going to let her do more pull-ups than me. 0.84

00:21:57.720 Like it brought out this like ultra competitive side of me that still to this day now, many years later, I still remember.

00:22:05.400 So I think it's awesome, too.

00:22:07.800 What's what's next for you guys?

00:22:09.520 What are kind of some of the bigger things you're working on as it pertains to entrepreneurship, which I believe is really able to thrive under this administration, especially small businesses or, I guess, all in conjunction with the Maha movement?

00:22:26.660 Well, I think the big thing is the implementation and execution around the One Big Beautiful Bill.

00:22:34.340 And we're doing a lot of education right now across the country on what was in it and how it benefits small businesses.

00:22:41.640 Obviously, permanency in terms of many of the tax provisions, the 20% small business deduction, immediate expensing, research and development.

00:22:51.980 This is huge, Riley, in terms of this being restored and being made permanent.

00:22:57.040 This is going to have a massive impact on innovation in this country, our innovative global competitiveness, the next sort of industries, right?

00:23:11.460 I mean, we're seeing how AI is taking hold and having a transformative effect.

00:23:15.260 So we're pushing the administration to look at we need some clear guidance around these rules so that small businesses and entrepreneurs take advantage of them because there's immediate advantages that they can have this year.

00:23:28.180 There are some things that were left out of the Big Beautiful Bill that we're going to continue to push on the health care front that we think align with everything that the president wants to accomplish on Maha.

00:23:43.060 And again, it all involves health care policy, health care reform, transparency in terms of health care pricing, pharmaceutical pricing, you know, again, with health savings accounts, allowing individuals and families to use them for, you know, more proactive type of health care needs.

00:24:05.860 It's pushing hard on the telehealth front in terms of access to broadband, quality broadband, innovation in that whole space.

00:24:16.780 And then just generally entrepreneurship, Riley, more and more people want to start businesses, right?

00:24:26.260 And they just need an environment that supports them on the tax and regulatory side.

00:24:31.380 So there's a lot of regulatory baggage from the last administration, a lot that we're unwinding and working to get rid of right now because it was very harmful to self-employment, entrepreneurship and people growing businesses.

00:24:47.740 So we're cleaning out, you know, a lot of that regulatory garbage and really trying to instill reforms for the long term that are going to lock in a lot of the gains and the vision that President Trump has for MAGA, you know, and it all begins with strengthening entrepreneurship and small businesses in this country because they're the heart and soul of our economy.

00:25:12.780 Yeah, and it's it's it's a perk of having a businessman as president as he is someone who has been able to benefit from these things.

00:25:21.560 So really, really important stuff, again, especially on the education piece of the big, beautiful bill.

00:25:29.600 Obviously, when you have something so comprehensive and so holistic, there's a lot that gets lost in the weeds.

00:25:38.520 So thank you for for being willing to educate both small business owners or those affiliated with small businesses and entrepreneurs.

00:25:48.140 But I think more broadly, the public, I listen to you say the things that you're saying, and I'm like, who could be opposed to any of these things?

00:25:55.060 Like, I can't believe there's an entire political party that opposes things that, again, you would imagine 90 percent, if not more of Americans would be able to fully get behind.

00:26:06.220 So thank you very much.

00:26:09.200 A hundred percent, Riley.

00:26:10.380 And it's more than just tax stuff, too.

00:26:12.120 You know, it had air traffic control improvements, energy affordability so broad, you know, in terms of, you know, the positive impact that it's going to have on the economy and people's lives in general.

00:26:26.860 And you're right.

00:26:27.660 It should have been a bipartisan effort.

00:26:29.280 It's not how they like to work nowadays, unfortunately, that that I mean, you've seen it.

00:26:35.580 We've all seen it.

00:26:36.600 But but you especially and especially in your your world where these are things that should be bipartisan.

00:26:45.260 Right.

00:26:45.720 You can argue some of the other stuff, whether it's it's maybe more of the cultural stuff.

00:26:50.200 OK, sure, there's always been disagreements there on on how people govern in that way.

00:26:56.620 But but these things, again, that just make it easier for Americans to live their lives and to to succeed and to thrive should certainly be more bipartisan.

00:27:07.320 So thank you for leading that effort and making it as such.

00:27:11.860 We really are grateful for you.

00:27:14.340 Well, thank you, Riley.

00:27:15.160 I enjoyed.

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00:27:42.120 Fantastic.

00:27:42.420 So sbecouncil.org.

00:27:44.600 Um, I would encourage every single person, old, young, man, woman, it doesn't matter, uh, any identity factor.

00:27:52.540 I would encourage every person to do this.

00:27:54.500 I think especially young people, actually, because, uh, I'll speak pretty authentically.

00:28:00.380 Uh, we don't learn a lot about this stuff in school.

00:28:04.560 Um, and now I'm at the point in my life being 25 years old where you need to know these things.

00:28:09.880 Uh, whether you have a small business of your own or not, uh, being informed in that way, it will never be to your detriment.

00:28:17.820 Uh, so sbecouncil.org.

00:28:20.360 Uh, I encourage everyone to go, to go check that out.

00:28:23.200 So thank you very, very much, Karen.

00:28:24.940 Thank you, Riley.

00:28:25.600 Thank you guys for tuning in.

00:28:29.280 Again, go to sbecouncil.org.

00:28:31.940 Uh, check out what Karen's got going on over there. 1.00

00:28:35.240 Really, really important stuff.

00:28:36.420 And I think things that, uh, could really make a difference in your everyday life.

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Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - August 13, 2025

Small Business & MAHA Movement： Karen Kerrigan on Economics, Health, and the Big Beautiful Bill ｜ Gaines for Girls

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