The “I Regret Motherhood” Lie with Brett Cooper ｜ The Riley Gaines Show
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In this episode, we chat with Brett Cooper, host of The Brett Cooper Show, about the joys of being a mom to a six-month-old boy, Alex, and the challenges of parenting a toddler.
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New series now streaming exclusively on Paramount+.
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if you watch the farm vlog a few weeks ago today we are talking to the inspiration
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of that we're talking to brett cooper she's the host of the brett cooper show and as i said
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most importantly she's a mom that we had a show with isabel brown not too long ago me brett and
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isabel we have this group chat where we like constantly send photos and updates of our babies
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and what they're doing uh it's really really awesome so excited to dive into all of that and
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more today with brett cooper well brett thank you for joining the riley gaines show i will tell you
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my audience when first even announcing the show i put up this little like box of who people wanted
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to see and like the most common answers were like ali best ducky you isabel brown and so i know my
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audience is thrilled that you're on today so thank you very much lots of different things to talk
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about but i actually texted you prior to this i was like honestly let's just stay away from all
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of the political mumbo jumbo yeah and i don't know if this is something you feel but i feel like
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on really monday through friday i try to keep my weekends off my phone but monday through friday
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i consume so much political media sometimes even like involuntarily yeah so wanted to stay away
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from that and so the first thing the first topic that i wanted to ask you about is motherhood
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yeah your perfect baby boy he's just like a month older than margo and margo now she's like
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kind of army crawling she's like so close to like being fully mobile which is a terrifying thought
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where are you at in all of this how's it going he's great he is wonderful doing so great he is
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very much my child like my mom when i was pregnant we were looking at face-up marketplace and buying
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like all these different like baby things because i like refuse to buy anything new and she sent me
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this like little montessori like baby climber thing that had like a rock wall on the side
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whatever she was like you should go ahead and buy this it's already assembled because it was one of
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those things it was going to take like 10 hours for alex night to build and she was like just go
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pick this up right now and i tried to buy it but i was like mom i'm not going to need this for like
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a year like this baby is not going to be climbing on things this is wild he's just going to be
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sitting in one place and she was like no he's your child and at like six months you were like
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i would find you on top of a refrigerator and you would be like climbing up your brother's bunk beds
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and like all of this stuff and i was like okay well that just still seems so far away and now
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we're at six months he can crawl now he's pulling himself up I like went in this morning after his
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nap and he was fully like stood up on his crib like halfway leaning out I was like okay well we
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need to lower that so it's all just like it's crazy so my entire life has just changed in the
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last three weeks now that he's so mobile like we need to get some kind of enclosure or something
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for him or put like an air tag because we just hear him like screech in like different parts of
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the house like how did you get here yeah and it is true like I think once they become more mobile
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it changes your life at home. Like you have to start baby proofing everything. But even
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what I'm kind of nervous about is it makes travel a lot more hectic. Like the thought of sitting on
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an airplane with this baby who like desperately wants to be crawling around, it impacts every
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aspect of your life. And you said like you, you would need it six months away. The cliche that I
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would roll my eyes at all the time when people told me, even when I was pregnant, like it time
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flies it goes so fast like don't blink i'd roll my eyes at this but now like it's so true yeah and
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i i hate admitting this this cliche is as true as it is but even like looking at her little baby
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clothes or i'll find myself like at least once a week going through my camera roll and going back
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to the photos yes they don't even look like the same human being i took a video when alex was
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downstairs getting our car and we were about to leave the hospital i took a video with him
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and his face was all like smooshed up and looked so sweet and i was like all right so this is like
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we're leaving the hospital we're taking you home and I wanted to have that to like look back on and
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I do look back on it like every single week because it was like the last time that he was
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actually sleepy and the last time that I was able to just like contain him but he was so smushy
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and it's wild how things change talk about that um some of the the different we've seen like the
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woman with the list right yeah all these horrible things that make motherhood so chaotic can you
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explain some of your experience with the chaotic things yeah and maybe not necessarily how they
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have yes they've changed your life but not really for the worse yeah well I think that number one
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you have to go into this knowing that it's a sacrifice like I think that there's a lot of
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people who you know talk about having children and you know it's the girl with the list and all
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these things that can happen during pregnancy the weird thing so it impacts your teeth your hair
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falls out it's like all of these like random things that can happen during pregnancy and
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childbirth um and I obviously would see those videos and I would talk to friends who had kids
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talk to my mom but underneath all of that I still wanted to be a mom and I knew that that was a
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sacrifice worth making so I think it goes back to your own values and your you know priorities yeah
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what you are prioritizing because that was like all right well that's fine I'll live with it it's
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okay like if he's a great sleeper that's awesome if he does not sleep for a year and a half that's
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that's okay because I want to be a mom and you know, every baby is different. Like my oldest
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brother had colic and just screamed, cried for like the first eight months of his life. And then
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I would, I like loved the car when I was a baby and would just sleep in my car seat for hours and
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hours on. And my mom would like bring me in and like put me at the foot of the bed and I would
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just be knocked out. And she was like, it's like just the difference in children. Like you'll have
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such a different experience. Um, and so the sacrifices are, I think different for each child,
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depending on who they are like how they come out being but at the end of the day you still are
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making a sacrifice to raise up this life so it was worth making I wasn't too worried about it
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behind the comfort and make the everyday feel just a little bit more intentional and i think
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in the grand scheme of things too like you're really only in this baby even toddler phase for
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such a short amount of time in the grand scheme of of life even so yes maybe you have like a super
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chaotic hectic tiresome first two years but then you're blessed with them for the rest of your life
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and the rest of their life god willing so um yeah really when you think about it short term yes but
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even like your body right this is something we were talking to prior to recording yep something
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that i had said was you go through nine months of being pregnant really 10 months they lie to women
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by the way when they say you're pregnant for nine months it's a lie i got to 42 weeks and i was like
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this is not nine months no yeah yes so you change in in that regard but even now being five months
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postpartum myself you over six months now like even breastfeeding like my body is just not the
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same and that's hard for me to like really adapt to it's totally different yeah i've always had
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control over like how i look and my fitness level and my energy level and now suddenly like it's
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zapped from me and it's given to this little bitty tiny human yeah who my husband like it's so funny
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like she'll be breastfeeding and he calls her a boob barnacle which i'm like that's the most
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accurate description of what is happening right now um you mentioned your mom too has she been
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a big help she recently moved amazing yeah here to tennessee right yeah so she moved to middle
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Tennessee. Um, she's amazing. She's been so helpful. And I mean, even like, okay, so we're
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talking about motherhood and sacrifices, like those sacrifices do not end. If you are, if that's
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what you're prioritizing, like my mom had her, what we call her third act. Um, my parents got
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divorced, which was a good thing for both of them. They're much happier, but she moved to Idaho and
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she created this farm and she built this community here. And she spent four years investing in
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creating like the most beautiful property. And the idea was that I was still going to be in Los
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Angeles because at the time when she bought the property I was gonna go to law school there stay
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in LA my brother was he was in the military at the time and was thinking of moving to um an air
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force base up in like Washington Spokane area so we were all gonna be like close to Boise Idaho it
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was gonna be great and then my brother never moved and I got the job at Daily Wire and moved to
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Nashville and so she was like out on the west coast totally by herself yeah exactly and then
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my brother Chase decided to stay there it's like year after year he was like no I'm not moving I'm
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not moving so she was holding out hope and alex and i got married and then i remember facetiming
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her and telling her that i was pregnant and she was like well i guess i gotta like get my ass up
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and move so she but it's incredible she sacrificed this incredible property this life that she had
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built and she's completely starting over again to be near us like building a farm up from the
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ground up again started on a property with like nothing like did not move into a property with
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any kind of infrastructure which is what happened in idaho is starting everything brought all of
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her animals it was like an absolute long way yes and it was a long it was a long move a huge move
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moves are just awful in general especially if they're cross country but if you're moving like
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12 animals what does she have and she has cows yeah she has she has dairy cows so she has
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three jersey cows two in milk right now they she has multiple jersey steers that are on those moms
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a galloway a belty um that's on one of the other ones because we lost one of her babies so we bought
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a bottle baby to put on this mom she has one beef cow she has a full-size highland bull like with
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the whole horns like you have and then heritage turkeys geese and then sheep she does like hair
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sheep so those are meat sheep and i mean they're just frolicking all over the pasture and then she
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has like five million dogs cats everything well the thing i love about you is like you could get
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a text and it could be an update of your your little baby or it could be like oh hey like my
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mom is like delivering and i'm helping deliver this little baby silver cow i didn't even really
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know they had silver cows yeah last night we our bull accidentally got in with her white charlay
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beef cow and nine months later we have a full silver galloway charlay cross but he is yeah
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totally or she it's ever full belt totally silver so it's just no it's just so much fun and she
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like she is so busy doing all of her farm stuff but she is like always at our house she's helping
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us build up our farm because she's been doing this longer than we have um but it really is like you
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never stop making sacrifices for your kids and she sacrifices every day being here and i know it was
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so hard on her to move and leave the friends that she had created um and it just means so much that
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she gets to be here and see our baby and be with us but i bet she did it without complaining at all
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yeah she was so happy to do it yeah she was excited too she wasn't happy to move but she
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was happy to be here with us which i think is my mom says all the time because my older sister she
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has a baby that's a year and a half old yeah and so this was her first granddaughter but her second
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grandbaby and she says all the time like oh my gosh being a grandmom is so much better than being
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a mom because you get to give them back when they cry you know um so that's special that she gets to
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be around and see him growing up and you evolving too yeah as a mom yeah do you feel like because
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for me I feel like my view of the world has shifted entirely like my perspective on things
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has shifted on things that I never let's I guess to put it this way things that I never cared about
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now i care very deeply about things that at one point i cared about they don't matter to me at
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all yeah and so have you found that in you like over the past six months or maybe even before that
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when you found out you're pregnant yeah i think the thing that i keep going back to is i give
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less of a crap about things now like everything that i care about is like way more heightened i
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think with both me and alex it's like the way that we look at the world now we're looking at
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it through the lens of we want to make sure that this we leave a great world for our son um and so
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I care a lot less about offending people I care a lot less about like tiptoeing around issues I
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and yeah you're right there's some things now that I'm like okay I don't even care about that like
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I'll think about and I also think this goes back to the time that I spend away from my child so
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I'm now doing four shows a week instead of the 10 that I was doing when I was at Daily Wire because
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i was doing two times a day it was a lot it was a lot we were talking about this before we started
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recording too that it's often when you're doing so much content you're like oh gosh i need to kind
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of like make a story and i need to like hit this quota and now i think about it through the lens
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of like okay if i'm going to go spend 35 minutes away from my child recording it should mean
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something like i don't want to just be sitting in front of a camera like about you know some
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idiotic thing because i need to check something off like i want to make sure that i'm saying
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something that matters that hopefully you know leaves people changed in a way even if it's
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something that's like funny and light-hearted but has a good message at the end because we need a
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break from the insanity of like the political stuff I want to make sure that I'm putting
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something meaningful into the world because that's you know 35 minutes of recording an hour
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and a half of prepping the show that was not like solely focused on him um and so that's totally
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changed for me it's just like the amount of time that I dedicate to things it's like what really is
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the priority which is a good thing yes yeah so i want to make sure that it's you mentioned alex
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yes what's it been like watching him become a dad because for me i mean of course i i have loved
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louis yeah for a very long time but it really is like a different kind of totally different
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and watching him now in his fatherhood role yes there was something i saw on tiktok where a girl
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said marry the man who wants to be a dad and not just have kids and i think that's an important
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distinction like alex has always wanted to be a dad he didn't want to just like have children and
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have a big family and like whatever the lifestyle or the look whatever it is like from the day i
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met him our first date he was like my number one priority is to be a father to be a dad like i want
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to be that role not just have a bunch of kids around me and so he's so engaged he's so active
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like the way that his eyes light up when he sees this baby it is the most special thing and it is
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a totally different kind of love but I will say it took a second oh my gosh it took a second to
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get there because I had the most like insane postpartum like hormonal like craziness and so
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I remember being at the hospital and seeing him hold this baby I was like this most perfect like
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special thing and I got home and I had this insane hormone crash like standing in the shower crying
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being like what have I done my body feels so different like everything is just all over the
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place I'm so out of whack I feel like squishy yet tight and full and all of these things and I was
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like so angry for like two weeks where I was like and he would come up and try to like comfort me
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I'm like don't even touch me like I just like can't even do it but and so that was I think the
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hardest part of the adjustment honestly was the marriage aspect because you go from just being
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the two of you and having total freedom to do whatever you want and go out to dinner and just
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be the two of you and watch a show on the couch and it was like for those first three weeks I was
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like I literally have not even like touched you. We have not spent a second alone. We have not
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even talked about anything other than like poop and snot and all of these things. And that I was
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like so anxiety ridden and angry, I think just because of all those hormones that it took me a
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second to get back to like, this is like really magical and wonderful. But again, it's all just
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like the sacrifices you make. But the redeeming part throughout that entire experience was he was
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so engaged and so helpful and 150 percent in on everything and was just like obsessed with this
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child from day one so if I was in the shower like crying over this he was like outside you know
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having the best time so that made it really special yeah well it gives I'm sure he had like
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this level of grace with you but it was hard too I I didn't really experience that postpartum
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but I had like a good four-day crash out I remember it so vividly when I was pregnant where
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i mean i imagine it's the hormones are everywhere and i knew i was being irrational yeah but that
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made me even more upset that i couldn't do anything about it i'm like okay i know i'm being
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angry and upset and emotional but there's nothing i could do and it was making me
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those emotions that i i was exhibiting like even more heightened yeah so that's hard and you hear
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about pet rage yes where women get like mad at their pets or their dogs or whatever it is i will
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i haven't had that but it is crazy how you go from because we have four dogs as well you have
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four right yeah we have three three and um you know they're your whole life and they're so sweet
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and they're in bed with you or whatever and now i'm like cookie if you get in this freaking bed
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i'm like get out i'm like get away from the baby whatever and it's all really sweet and they want
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to be near him or whatever but it's like you know alex would let the dogs out of the mud room and
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they would run towards the bed yes yes yes so it's just totally different where your priorities
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just completely shift um and it's wild to watch so thankfully i've not had pet rage but i know
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women who do experience it and it's so again it's the irrationality of you're like i i know that
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this isn't right and i know that i'll get over this but you just have to ride in the moment
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yeah that's hard um you mentioned alex like wanting to be a dad yes there was an article
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that came out recently i think the headline was like i regret having children yes from the cut
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oh my gosh let's talk about this have you in your day-to-day life maybe the people you interact
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with even online is this something you come across a lot like women who express outwardly
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and publicly and and seemingly like these women in this article like without shame
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that they had children that they wish they didn't have not in my personal life but it is a bigger
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i think growing trend on online and social media and i think it's probably part of this whole
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societal idea of you know speak your truth and like you just focus on you like you're the main
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character practice self-care it's like where we need to validate all of your feelings all this
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stuff it's like some things that we shouldn't be said like that's fine um but one thing that was
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interesting about that article is i actually think that new york magazine and the cut did a real
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disservice even to the women in the article because if you read their tweet and you read their headline
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they framed it as like I think their tweet actually said you have to give up your slow
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mornings and your weekends and like dates out with the girls playing pickleball it was like
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really ridiculous superficial vapid stuff and it's like at some point in your life you have
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to decide whether you're going to give that up and be a mother and then the headline was I regret
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mother and I regret my child so I went into this I was seeing everybody's comments I like bookmarked
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it because I'm gonna do my episode on it tomorrow I was like oh these people are ridiculous I looked
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at it and then i get into the article and it's a bunch of women who have had no support postpartum
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and number one all the like common denominator in all of their the three stories that they talk
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about are the man wanted to have children they knew that going into the relationship dating they
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were like you know my now husband really wanted to have kids and i was like okay maybe number one
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red flag don't marry him if you like don't do that to him don't put him in a situation foundational
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yes differences and it's like if you're not ready to make that call yet let him move on
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maybe you'll find your way back but don't put him now in a situation where he's dealing with
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a woman who regrets having these children that could have been dealt with you know 10 years ago
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or whatever it is but in reading all of these stories these women are have no support had like
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a month-long maternity leave and had to go back to work immediately had no child care you know
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one of them was talking about how her mother-in-law her mom was pressuring her to have kids
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and then the mom doesn't want to be bothered to help out with the baby after all so she was like
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I thought that I was going to have all this support and now I don't um there one of the
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women was talking about how she went to the doctor for postpartum depression and the doctor just like
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waved her away and was like oh you'll figure it out and it's like so it's yeah what's it's almost
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as if that's to be expected yes and I think it's hard because now we have this society that is so
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anti-motherhood in many ways and I'm sure that the women in this story are 30 year old you know
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cosmopolitan women the this is not their community they don't have a village they don't have women
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that they can share this experience with like their friends are not having babies i'm sure and
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so obviously it feels like you're on this island alone your hormones are crashing now you've
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sacrificed your career where you you know feel like you got value out of it and i'm like obviously
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you're going to be angry if that's and if you have no support and so when looking at those stories
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it's like yes obviously they're saying that they regret motherhood and that's an issue in and of
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itself don't say that out loud your kids are going to read that one day but like the cut in
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the new york magazine they had the opportunity to make this a discussion about why are we not
00:21:55.320
supporting mothers and why do we not have better policies in place to support these women and maybe
00:22:00.440
have the cultural attitudes that you've been promoting for the last 15 years only hurt women
00:22:05.400
because now they have no support but instead they were like oh they regret it they can't play
00:22:08.760
pickleball on the weekend yeah well i have the the like little subtitle here so sooner or later
00:22:13.820
everyone has to decide whether to give up lazy weekends disposable income and overall peace of
00:22:18.100
mind to have a baby instead for many of those on the fence one anxiety looms large what if i make
00:22:23.060
the wrong choice it does seem like lazy weekends disposable income overall peace yeah what a silly
00:22:29.720
what a silly thing and you're right like there are conversations to be had even in talking about
00:22:35.640
maternity leave yeah my sister she went back to her job full-time i think at six weeks she had to
00:22:43.040
go back in the office for two weeks she got to go in like part-time so maybe like monday wednesday
00:22:46.860
friday she had to go in but i mean six weeks her husband actually got 12 weeks so he got 12 weeks
00:22:51.960
off work she got six weeks and then full-time back downtown nashville from where we live for
00:22:57.840
i mean probably like an hour drive some days um that's a long time away from your baby so there is
00:23:03.100
a need to have these conversations yep and you're right they totally missed the mark
00:23:07.400
um did you watch love is blind okay i haven't watched it but i know what you're gonna bring up
00:23:11.100
Okay. Emma. Yes. She's a girl on the show. And like, she was very upfront, which like respect
00:23:17.040
to her very upfront from the very beginning and the pods, right. The premise behind the show,
00:23:21.160
if you haven't seen it is you're in these pods, you don't know what anyone on the other side of
00:23:25.100
the wall looks like. You have conversations. You decide if you're going to get engaged.
00:23:29.360
I mean, I think it's like 10 days of filming. So 10 days behind a wall talking to like 20
00:23:34.240
different men. You pick your person, you get, you get engaged, decide if you want to get married,
00:23:38.260
i think two or three or four weeks after you meet their family live with each other yes and the
00:23:42.760
point is that you're removing the like physical and like even sexual chemistry like the point of
00:23:49.560
being in the pods is that you have the really hard conversations yes you lay it out you know
00:23:53.780
exactly what you're getting into no physical whatever mumbo jumbo and she was very honest
00:23:58.940
like i don't want kids which again that's her prerogative she doesn't want kids i mean you
00:24:03.840
can't really fault her for it and i think honestly she had pretty valid reasons like
00:24:06.980
she was adopted she didn't know much about her family i think she was from china she didn't know
00:24:10.800
much about her family like if there were any sort of genetic thing she had birthmarks all over her
00:24:15.500
body that she had to be removed and she was scared of passing that along to a child so i think if
00:24:19.580
you're going to have reasons for not wanting to have a child or at least being unsure i think
00:24:23.180
those were relatively valid reasons anyway she was up front about that but the guy that she ended up
00:24:28.200
getting engaged she was up front from the beginning that he did want kids anyways they decided to go
00:24:32.600
fully along with it but there's this moment in the show where it's emma's family and again she's
00:24:37.420
adopted so emma is chinese all of her family it's it's these white people and the sis i think it's
00:24:43.660
emma's sister yes it's her sister um she's at or she's talking to emma about this and and her then
00:24:48.760
fiance like okay well you know kids are really hard i have kids and if i had the opportunity now
00:24:54.340
i wouldn't have them yeah and i listened to that and i was like oh my gosh like you just said like
00:24:58.660
her kids are going to I imagine watch that at one day I cannot imagine hearing my mom say like oh
00:25:05.520
like if I could do this again I just simply would not have you or your siblings that's a really hard
00:25:11.380
like thing to chew and it's one thing again to like have conversations about what makes it hard
00:25:18.220
and how to better support moms and that kind of thing and even with the women in the cut they were
00:25:22.840
anonymous but still it's like you're putting that out there but no she was like so brazenly like yeah
00:25:26.940
if I did it over, I wouldn't have it. And the interesting thing about that conversation was
00:25:29.980
that I think the guy's name was Mike, right? I think so. Yes, yes, yes. So Mike was the fiance.
00:25:35.200
They all look together in my mind because they all literally look the same. Yes. And so Mike
00:25:39.040
was pressuring Emma's sister and was like, and this is why it's so wild to me going back to this
00:25:43.840
whole idea of don't marry somebody who you're not aligned with. He was sitting there with his
00:25:47.980
fiance that he's known for 10 days. And he was like, no, but Emma's sister, you don't regret it.
00:25:52.740
Like maybe it's hard, but you don't regret it. Look, Emma, she doesn't regret it. And then her
00:25:56.480
sister's like no essentially I do and it's like why are you fighting with her sister over this
00:26:01.400
like she's being up front and again you might think that her reasons are ridiculous maybe you
00:26:05.680
think they're valid but it's not worth it like there's too many other people in the world and
00:26:10.580
I get the dating's hard these days but like this is too big of a gamble because people's lives are
00:26:15.520
at stake number one the rest of your life if you don't want children and your kids are at stake and
00:26:19.020
then you're bringing life into the world that's too big of a risk to be sitting here arguing with
00:26:23.160
your fiance's sister over whether you should have kids it's ridiculous I initially didn't like her
00:26:26.560
in the show maybe because of what I could assume to be her views on certain things which maybe isn't
00:26:33.680
a very fair thing but I initially didn't like her but I think she grew a lot throughout the show and
00:26:37.280
towards the end of it actually she got to the altar spoiler if you haven't seen the season
00:26:41.620
finale yet don't listen to this but she got to the altar and she actually said yes and saying like
00:26:46.780
look I maybe am not there yet but I do see that future with you and the the options not off the
00:26:54.140
table and he actually said no because he was like I want children like which respect to him exactly
00:27:00.260
because that's what every woman in those stories in the cut they were saying like I didn't really
00:27:05.480
want it but I thought maybe maybe I would change and we were high school sweethearts and I just
00:27:09.500
thought you know maybe by 25 I'll be ready and we just put it off a couple of years it's like
00:27:13.320
if you're going to make that commitment to somebody and if you actually believe in marriage
00:27:18.140
as it should be not just in some like partnership that you're coming in and out of that you can
00:27:23.200
throw away but if you are you know till death do us part you have to be aligned when it goes back
00:27:28.100
to what you said about alex where he wanted to be present he wanted to be a dad not just have kids
00:27:34.600
yeah and i think that's what mike was showing too and what these women were lacking and speaking of
00:27:39.060
alex again i i asked you know if he was coming with you today we could go eat some like dinner
00:27:44.680
after this and you said no alex is actually like on to this next new hobby oh yeah can you tell us
00:27:51.100
what this is i think this is so cool yes so for those of you who do not know my husband he is a
00:27:56.800
serial hobbyist and he gets really really great at things and then moves on to the next thing
00:28:02.800
he just likes to like master it yes yeah yeah like we did we had a whole period of our relationship
00:28:08.300
before he got married where he was like really into baking and every single weekend he baked a
00:28:11.980
new thing like he was making like brioche and all of this stuff and then he was like right again 15
00:28:15.940
pounds i'm over it and then he like hasn't baked since he'll bake when we're baking together
00:28:19.240
but he loves mastering things he wants to know like a lot about a lot of different things so
00:28:25.920
the newest thing that he is doing was we're starting a big garden this year which he's
00:28:29.380
always wanted to do so we're gonna do vegetables and we're gonna have a cut flower garden all that
00:28:32.720
stuff and we're sitting at dinner with him and my mom and he's like i'm gonna grow tobacco
00:28:36.440
tobacco what that doesn't sound like an easy thing to grow no and none of us smoke he will
00:28:42.620
like smoke a cigar like four times a year essentially he can't even like do zen essentially
00:28:48.240
because it's like gets him all wired up um and he doesn't enjoy it so i'm like why are we doing
00:28:52.860
this he was like because it just seems like a cool thing to do like tennessee is known for tobacco
00:28:56.720
and i'm going to grow it and i'm going to figure it out so he like ordered these specific seeds
00:29:01.340
that grow well in our area and when I found him last night I was putting the baby to bed and I
00:29:06.740
was like where are you because we had gone out to dinner with everybody and he was like I'm up in
00:29:11.700
the guest house and I'm like putting my little like seed propagation together so we bought this
00:29:15.680
and he like I sent him a picture of what my mom has for her seeds and he was up in front of a
00:29:19.480
window building this entire thing and setting up his lights and he was now yeah he's at home right
00:29:24.040
now putting all of his seeds in the little this is so funny but I've never even done that I plan
00:29:28.700
on getting for our garden the starts that somebody has already done the hard work and already done
00:29:32.940
all the seeds but he is going to do it from seed length so that's what he's into now that is so
00:29:37.280
funny i remember when you were building your fence and he was like researching like the best way to
00:29:41.840
like set the post in the ground like do you like kind of put it all together before and then just
00:29:46.600
like lean it up like all of these different crazy things so a certified like hobbyist yeah he's
00:29:54.000
he calls himself like a youtube oh i saw that on your vlog yeah oh my gosh louis everything louis
00:29:59.360
the exact same way where if he doesn't know how to do something he will look it up yeah make sure
00:30:04.740
he knows how to do it and not just do it like do it really well yeah which i find to be amazing
00:30:08.960
because i'm very much not that person and i don't have the patience to sit through any like youtube
00:30:12.260
tutorials or anything like a great example is buying cars i don't know anything about the specs
00:30:16.440
of my car i've never been interested when i like bought my forerunner with my mom a few years ago
00:30:21.680
i walked onto the like lot and i was like boom great forerunner i've always wanted a forerunner
00:30:25.860
that's perfect and that i know nothing about it and when we were buying like my mom car and alex
00:30:31.100
was getting his truck for the farm i mean it was like hours of youtube videos he was like i'm not
00:30:34.320
gonna have any regrets i want to know everything about it and i just like don't have the patience
00:30:37.700
don't have the time but he will learn anything the other thing he's been doing now is he's
00:30:42.600
buying hard copies of everything in case the grid goes down or god forbid like something insane
00:30:48.600
happens so we have like gardening books canning books i love this like mechanic something like
00:30:53.640
how to work on our tractor he's like stockpiled all these things he has he read them absolutely
00:30:57.060
not is he a doomsdayer at all um i would say vigilant he's not going so far as where we're
00:31:04.700
like completely off like a pantry in the basement right he's just like ready to if like he i think
00:31:12.280
sees like a grid going down in the future it's even if it's just for like a few days and so he's
00:31:16.400
gonna have like 50 books well that huge ice storm here in Nashville I think there was like even two
00:31:22.100
weeks after um there was like still 100,000 homes which is crazy totally without power we were so
00:31:29.360
prepared this man like spent two weeks like I've never seen him so excited for this I mean it was
00:31:34.400
like all of his training we were I mean we had the generator up and running and he was like practice
00:31:40.360
running it because you have to do like you have to do like one cycle beforehand it was like every
00:31:43.920
day it was like a new grocery run he was pulling out all the cankins and all this stuff we never
00:31:47.400
lost power oh we were like one of the only houses that didn't and we were sitting there and he like
00:31:51.200
had the you know generator ready to go he had chopped firewood for days and days and days and
00:31:57.000
it was like sitting outside and so we barely even started to fire because he was like i don't want
00:32:00.700
to run through all of our firewood in case the power goes out we have this baby and we need to
00:32:04.580
be able to like keep the house warm and so we barely even had a fire and then we got to the
00:32:08.820
end of it and we had i'm not kidding like hundreds and hundreds of logs outside the house now it's
00:32:13.340
chopped and now yeah and now it's hot outside so ready for the next snowstorm which in tennessee
00:32:18.820
weather could happen literally at any time we'll probably have something i think our last frost
00:32:22.900
date is april 15th so i'm sure we'll have something before then yeah good okay you mentioned your mom
00:32:27.880
too like going to idaho having this farm did you grow up like that because now we've talked about
00:32:33.500
what you've got going on yeah talk about the animals yes so we have i did not so i did not
00:32:39.840
grew up like this i always grew up on land but my mom was never in a position with her two marriages
00:32:47.200
to have a farm but she had always wanted it so like when she was growing up in atlanta georgia
00:32:51.740
which was when she's where she spent most of her like adolescence and teen years she would like
00:32:56.280
beg my grandmother to let her join ffa which is the future farmers of america um in their dunwoody
00:33:01.180
neighborhood she's like just let me put like a sheep in the front yard and my grandmother was
00:33:04.180
like absolutely not. So she's always wanted this and she would always get our family to like a
00:33:09.660
location where we could have animals. So at one point they were, before I was born, they were
00:33:14.320
living in like Walnut Creek, um, California, which is a really rural, I think that was where they
00:33:18.780
were, um, rural area. And they bought, you know, a house with six acres. And then her first husband
00:33:24.840
died of cancer. It's the father of my brothers and he got terminally ill. And so she was taking
00:33:28.880
care of him and the three boys. And so it was not in a position to even have chickens or anything
00:33:33.080
like that married my dad we moved to orcas island washington which is where i was born and it's this
00:33:39.360
like beautiful rural island off the coast of washington i think we have like 15 acres and
00:33:43.900
like a barn and all of this stuff no animals my dad was like not into it it's we have too much
00:33:48.620
going on i don't want to do it so she was like okay moved to tennessee had like five acres never
00:33:54.340
even had chickens there was a lot going on in their marriage and our family my brother died
00:33:57.780
around that time so it was just like never she never had the right opportunity and she always
00:34:02.740
put our family and her marriages before this like lifelong dream that she's had and so after
00:34:08.040
Chattanooga then she was in California with me because I was acting you're not gonna have goats
00:34:12.820
in your like Los Angeles like tiny little house you have in the corner and so when I graduated
00:34:17.880
college and when she and my dad finalized their divorce again she was like I picked Boise on a
00:34:22.820
map 45 minutes from LA via plane so she like YouTubed her way through it and learned how to do
00:34:29.300
this so the long story is no but because this has been a passion and an interest of hers literally
00:34:35.180
since she was a little girl she made sure that all of us had exposure to it and so we had friends
00:34:40.660
that had a huge highland cow ranch way before it was even like a big thing yeah it was like when I
00:34:48.500
was like eight years old they had one up in Kentucky and so we would go up there and spend
00:34:52.140
a couple weeks at a time and help them you know castrate all the bulls and you know sort everybody
00:34:56.920
and do that kind of thing and we saw their pigs and just really like sunk our teeth in and I rode
00:35:02.880
horses from a really young age my brothers would always like spend a couple weeks a year at
00:35:06.600
different like camps in Colorado and Texas like learning how to rope and do rodeo stuff so she
00:35:10.700
always wanted us to have that um I guess appreciation and interest in it even though we didn't actually
00:35:16.280
get to have that at our home and I think part of it was like she wanted to live vicariously through
00:35:20.980
us and support us in that way so when she finally had that freedom again third act all the kids out
00:35:26.980
of the house she went and did it and literally just grit her teeth figured out like we I remember
00:35:32.400
we got to Idaho because at this point I was like I'm getting out of LA we landed in Idaho three
00:35:36.480
weeks later she had found her first milk cow on Craigslist oh my god we had yeah we had no trailer
00:35:43.720
no anything no bar and my mom was like we just have to do it which when Alex and I bought our
00:35:48.500
property we had a very serious case of the like we're not ready yet because we didn't have the
00:35:55.520
right barn we bought land that used to be a cattle ranch but I mean it had been like decades and
00:36:00.180
decades and decades so the all the fencing was falling apart the barn literally kind of still
00:36:04.440
is sliding off a hill so we're trying to fix that and didn't have anything prepped but I remembered
00:36:09.480
my mom and I going and picking up this cow in the back of my like Kia hybrid that I had at the time
00:36:15.020
and i was like we're just gonna go like buy pigs i remember i texted you like two summers ago
00:36:19.420
and i was like we just did it i went and i just picked up pigs and i got this um like electric
00:36:24.500
fencing and just put it in a random spot which now we actually have proper fencing for them
00:36:28.520
um but i was like we just have to just do it rip off the band-aid and which was like the motivation
00:36:33.780
truthfully that i needed because similar where kind of ish grew up around animals um we had
00:36:40.960
horses growing up honestly they kind of just sat on the 20 acres we didn't do a ton with them
00:36:45.360
but i was actually the president of ffa at my high school oh my god that's fun it was the same
00:36:50.780
where i was like i want to do this i remember in fifth grade being so upset when the the 4-h people
00:36:56.380
came to our school yeah in my fifth grade class they were offering like chicken eggs yeah and i
00:37:00.860
took the sheet home to my mom i'm like mom can we please get chickens we live in like a neighborhood
00:37:05.280
where yeah you could not have chickens and my mom was like absolutely not it broke my heart so i
00:37:09.980
became best friends with the girl who did get chickens and we're still best friends to this
00:37:13.440
day who did get to take the 4-H chickens home but even in high school like when my older sister
00:37:17.680
went to college we still lived in the same home again not conducive for farm life yeah when my
00:37:23.720
older sister went to college I went to tractor supply on my own actually it was on the way home
00:37:28.560
from swim practice one day and I bought the little chickens you know having no idea anything and I
00:37:32.720
put them in my sister's room I was like my parents will never know that's hilarious we had bird dogs
00:37:37.580
so the bird like the pointers are outside the door like incessantly barking there gave me away
00:37:43.620
little rats yeah anyways so was always like wanting to get involved i didn't really know
00:37:49.860
where to start either so you texting me that was like louie look like brett did it we can do it too
00:37:54.420
and like you have been like our motivation and really more so the inspiration yeah for us so
00:37:59.820
so what do you have now animal wise we have um okay currently in our garage we have 29 chicks
00:38:07.560
the garage so they're babies little yes yes we have chicks so we are doing meat birds for the
00:38:11.940
first time this summer so they're going to be pasture raised we have a chicken tractor that's
00:38:14.940
almost finished being built and they're going to be like pulled around to a fresh patch of grass
00:38:20.680
for the next four months once they feather out and then they have a butcher date June something
00:38:25.920
so is that how that works you have to like get them a butcher yeah so you have to schedule it
00:38:30.960
in advance usually especially for weirdly poultry there are not many poultry processors in middle
00:38:35.500
tennessee and so you got to get on the schedule so we are yeah so we scheduled in advance and then
00:38:41.360
we have 20 we have 25 meat birds and then i got four um blue egg layers at tractor supply just
00:38:47.920
on a whim because i was like what's four more if we already have 25 let's just throw a couple more
00:38:51.020
in there so we have those in the garage and what do you plan to do with them like sell them we are
00:38:57.100
we don't really have a plan we're just doing it for the experiences of now if we want to sell
00:39:01.280
we have to establish our farm and get like usda you know it has the whole thing and the government
00:39:07.080
has to come out and like look at how they're living we get a lot of tax write-offs though
00:39:10.700
yes you can um but we just have not jumped through all of those hoops yet so as of now
00:39:15.180
these are chickens that if you want some chicken you can come over and you'll get some pasture
00:39:19.360
chicken it's basically just for like friends and family and feeding our family um so we are
00:39:24.660
putting in our barn we're going to get a bunch of like commercial freezers because right now we are
00:39:28.560
like outgrowing our garage we'd have like random various like freezers of different sizes that we
00:39:32.560
just like throw stuff in um so we're going to make it have like a legit thing where people can come
00:39:36.880
and shop essentially so it's like if amir wants to buy half a cow then he can go get his half a
00:39:42.320
cow and we get whatever yeah um so yeah so that's what we're doing with the meat birds and then we
00:39:48.080
have 12 hens that we get eggs from we have and you eat the eggs yeah we eat the eggs we have
00:39:55.280
three african geese that help protect the rest of the birds so we eat their eggs alex had a
00:40:00.400
scrambled goose egg for breakfast this morning which are like what do these ones look like
00:40:03.500
they're the white ones with like those are my mom has those the one that look like like swan lake
00:40:07.900
oh i love with a little like fuzzy okay so she has those we have african geese not as cute and
00:40:12.700
they're very loud but they do their job of protecting the flock so they are like a deterrent
00:40:17.080
from aerial probably like even coyotes too right because they're pretty hardy these yeah and they
00:40:23.080
just squawk all day long so like nobody wants to touch them and then we have 10 ducks I believe we
00:40:29.080
have muscovies which are essentially some kind of like mixture between a goose and a duck but you
00:40:33.760
don't have to have a pond and they like lay a ton of eggs so we have duck eggs goose eggs chicken
00:40:38.400
eggs and we're putting in a garden this year right now we have we just sold off all of our piglets
00:40:43.840
from our last litter but we have we saved one pig from our litter before that one and so she's
00:40:50.720
pregnant so she's about to have piglets and then we have her parents so right now we have four
00:40:56.600
pigs about to have more in the next month whenever she has piglets and then I don't even remember how
00:41:01.800
many cows we have now we have a bull we have two steers and a heifer that I'm not going to breed
00:41:08.880
that will be freezer beef um she doesn't have the full belted Galloway belt so I don't want to
00:41:16.000
breeder again because if you're doing breed standard um and then we have four cow five cows
00:41:24.160
and then one new little heifer so i don't even know how many that is we're at like 13 14 right
00:41:29.900
and then two mules and your four dogs yeah and our four dogs that's a lot and two cats oh my gosh
00:41:36.080
yeah is it hard knowing like one of your animals is going to be ingested like i would have a hard
00:41:43.560
time it i think it will be harder for us with the cows we have not processed any cow yet that
00:41:52.240
or steer yet that we have like birthed on our property that we have raised and so i think that
00:41:58.220
might be different but i've also seen my mom do it many times now you yeah um and i've probably
00:42:03.620
if you go into it knowing that that's their purpose yeah i mean like one of our series is
00:42:08.220
name's sirloin okay so we like we put it out we know that it's like you are yeah you're sirloin
00:42:13.540
um my mom always does that when she had like stewie was her last year and she has two jersey
00:42:20.540
sears right now who are cheese and crackers it was cheeseburger cheese and burger but she changed
00:42:25.760
it to cheese and crackers so she like put gives them food names so we know yeah um but we have
00:42:31.840
processed a few of the pigs but the pigs are kind of nice though because they're really cute when
00:42:36.100
they're little and they're very smart and they're very precious and then when they get to be about
00:42:39.080
nine months which for Idaho pasture pigs is when they usually get to the right weight they are
00:42:43.540
obnoxious like they are biting your ankles they're destroying everything they can break through any
00:42:48.300
kind of fencing the electric fence does not deter them so when we hit nine months Alex was like
00:42:52.180
get them the hell off our property get them on the schedule yeah we are going and we enjoy that
00:42:57.300
sausage every day I love that yeah um I'm gonna show Louis this this part of the episode for sure
00:43:04.000
we need our piglets yes okay you do because we'll have more and i'll give you yes but um
00:43:08.760
so you have a bull and you have we've got a bull are you breeding that is the goal actually the
00:43:16.360
female hyaline is pregnant great yes where we got her from they didn't tell us how like far along
00:43:22.580
she was um they didn't even tell us for sure we actually need to like have someone come out and
00:43:27.700
like yeah you don't make sure but they said like there was no problems with the the bull and they
00:43:32.960
made sure he's good to breed they said she's there's a high likelihood she's pregnant so i'm
00:43:37.980
assuming she is um their gestation period is what like 11 months or something um i think it's like
00:43:44.200
no i actually think it's closer to ours it's like 10 months oh wow i might be like totally crazy but
00:43:48.380
i'm pretty sure i have it as like 10 months or so so hopefully we have a little baby highland cow
00:43:52.420
at some point right and then we have two other little heifers and they're they're so teeny and
00:43:56.800
cute yeah i just like it's they're a little bitty yeah and then we have four alpacas three donkeys
00:44:01.580
which the donkeys are many too okay and is it one of the alpacas pregnant yes and you didn't tell
00:44:06.280
louie yes the black one yes yes okay she's so cute she has like like she's so different than
00:44:12.300
all the other ones like her hair yeah like the texture and like the length of it is like
00:44:16.020
just different than the rest i know yeah she's so cute so hopefully are you going to share them
00:44:20.180
yourself that's the goal would love to have no idea but again youtube exists um one of alex's
00:44:26.860
ideas when we bought the farm was he wanted to make a homemade sherpa jacket but i have not
00:44:33.100
wanted to get alpacas or sheep my mom has hair sheep so those you don't shear like they are
00:44:39.080
like dogs their hair just naturally like falls out so we don't have any animals we could actually
00:44:43.000
shear and i was like i do not want to have to deal with that if we're dealing with all of these other
00:44:47.220
animals but he wants to make a leather jacket out of one of the hides from our cows like the okay
00:44:52.940
well yeah so we can take the wool and we can yes exactly perfect yeah oh my gosh well amazing um
00:44:59.360
okay i have like a rapid fire thing for you here to to end off actually one more question i had for
00:45:04.640
you unrelated to any of the topics that we've talked about yes but in watching your show i was
00:45:09.560
curious like where do you consume your media do you get stuff from x yes i think so it's a
00:45:15.260
combination of things i usually cross-pollinate so if i find something that is being talked about
00:45:22.040
on X I usually try to link it to something like I pull from various sources so if there's like a
00:45:27.420
discourse going on on some social cultural subject on X I then go to TikTok and I see if people are
00:45:33.500
talking about it there Instagram whatever I think a good story in my eyes is if there's multiple
00:45:39.580
cultural events that I can bring together to like make my point or if I see a conversation kind of
00:45:45.580
happening in parallels on X and TikTok then I bring it together to kind of like flush out a whole
00:45:50.640
like narrative and story that i can tell people that makes sense and it's totally different than
00:45:55.760
obviously news like your standard mainstream media legacy media um so i think that's cool
00:46:01.840
and to use tiktok too there's not a lot of people who do yeah um okay rapid rapid fire for you first
00:46:07.640
one favorite cabinet member oh gosh um i was about to say my favorite congressman so now i need to
00:46:15.240
like tim burchett um he rocks i was about to say him but he's not in the cabinet um but my mind
00:46:21.860
went to him um tulsi gabbard i love her she's awesome isn't she and i like she's still like
00:46:26.760
diplomatic yes and i like that she is sort of staying behind the scenes because i think
00:46:31.760
my issue right now is a lot of the like bad publicity and pr snafus and i feel like she's
00:46:38.640
able to just like she just keeps her head down and she does her job happy to be there the bad pr
00:46:43.280
especially when there's very few like good strong female yeah like leadership positions
00:46:51.180
and the ones that are especially right now yeah are being like totally just ice barbie yes yes
00:46:58.420
which I just hate it which she's had several of those in her time yeah so I respect Tulsi for
00:47:03.520
head down just working do her job that's it okay if you had to get rid of all your farm animal
00:47:08.460
species but one which one are you keeping we'd keep the mules oh that's interesting yeah because
00:47:14.220
they really don't provide like no but they're sweet oh i love that i think it would be mules
00:47:19.120
or chickens you'd keep those yeah okay if you could add one species to your form that you don't
00:47:24.360
already have oh gosh uh we're talking about mini donkeys right now because we know that's why i
00:47:30.040
texted you i texted riley and i was like do you want so many donkeys because i know somebody's
00:47:33.260
exactly um so maybe maybe mini donkeys just for fun okay what's your political hot take
00:47:43.260
like i get confused with hot takes because i say everything that i think on my show and i think
00:47:47.740
that it's all like really rational so i'm trying to think of something that's like crazy to me
00:47:51.000
oh well this isn't a hot take but it's something that's relevant right now i think that we need to
00:47:54.580
um primary and get out of office every single republican congress member who is voting to
00:47:59.820
provide liabilities to mayor and monsanto it seems like the most like entry-level thing well yeah it's
00:48:08.300
like you have an entire country that voted for making america healthy again the making america
00:48:13.980
healthy again coalition was one i think one of the driving factors in getting people to like
00:48:19.800
nervous voters people who were not conservative republican were not trumpers to like dip their
00:48:23.860
toe over and be like all right we're going to be part of this like you know unity party we're
00:48:27.860
bringing everybody together we care about our kids and our families and to see these elected
00:48:31.160
officials just spit in people's faces also while then like waving little like distractions in
00:48:37.280
people's faces like oh we like redid the pyramid which is great but then if the same people who
00:48:42.060
are cheering that on are behind the scenes like taking money from lobbyists from roundup and are
00:48:48.040
voting in favor of these bills in you know tennessee and florida wherever it is it's like you
00:48:54.020
don't you're not actually representing your constituents which is an issue just across the
00:48:58.460
board but yeah that's a partial ish win here in tennessee where they kind of just tabled it so
00:49:03.960
it's a win for now but not necessarily long term but even president trump has signed some executive
00:49:10.440
orders that rfk has come out and said look we're working through it see the problems we're working
00:49:15.740
through it we're doing what we can yeah so i totally agree with you there as do most as you
00:49:20.340
said i think especially independents moderates who supported president trump yeah and support
00:49:24.500
the america first agenda this is still a priority for them so i absolutely agree i think it's sort
00:49:29.180
of like the epstein files in a way because it's less about well it is about the specific issue
00:49:33.820
but it's also like no promises made promises kept across the board like when we said we wanted
00:49:39.000
transparency that wasn't just for like vibes and you know shits and giggles we actually wanted the
00:49:42.700
we actually wanted the transparency um and when we said make america healthy again and you know
00:49:48.000
we saw on your website that it said, we're going to hold these, you know,
00:49:50.840
pesticide companies accountable. We weren't just like joking about it.
00:49:53.460
Like we actually did care. So we want to see that.
00:49:55.940
Yeah. Not just the slogans, which the other side does very well,
00:49:59.040
all the slogans and they do, but we're different from that clearly. Okay.
00:50:02.620
Most most underrated issue that conservatives should be talking about right
00:50:07.800
I think the one that we just mentioned is, is it because again,
00:50:13.740
especially if you don't own a farm, which not many people do,
00:50:17.160
especially an operating one um you don't really know that these things are going on or that it
00:50:22.340
even affects you but it certainly does did great work in florida when she um they tested you know
00:50:29.320
various grocery products and there was this whole you know sheet that went viral um from all like
00:50:34.340
the bread companies that people just buy in grocery stores and the glyphosate levels in all
00:50:38.720
of those even like organic breads that people are buying like dave's killer bread had one of the
00:50:43.580
highest levels of life estate and you buy that thinking like oh I'm getting something and it's
00:50:47.360
like cleaner and all great and whatever um and so it's not it's not just if you live near a golf
00:50:51.920
course or live near a farm and farmers are spraying it's in the food that you're ingesting
00:50:55.220
every single day okay last thing for you tell us about like your any tours coming up I know you've
00:51:01.180
been doing like some stand-up comedy sort of yeah it's really it's like very awkward for me to say
00:51:05.620
that but yes um so I am doing shows at Zany's here in Nashville basically every month so you
00:51:13.180
can come and see those but hopefully in the fall I'll be going back on the road again but it's like
00:51:17.940
a live version of my show which is just like fun and I get to talk to the audience and connect with
00:51:22.560
people but I'm like a theater kid at heart so being able to be on stage and tell stories in
00:51:27.020
that medium and connect with people in that way is like so special and also seeing when you spend
00:51:32.820
you know however many years it was when I was at Daily Wire and you see you know view counts and
00:51:37.480
subscribers and that sort of thing but you're never out in person right like I'd never done
00:51:41.280
speaking engagement before I left and I had like not gone on tour or anything like that to me
00:51:45.540
yeah like America Fest was my first one and being able to like I remember doing that meet and greet
00:51:51.600
at AmFest and it was the first time that in a lot of ways like I had met people who watched my show
00:51:57.940
and had been impacted by it like I would run into them like see them at the antique mall or whatever
00:52:01.600
it is and be able to talk with some folks but to really be able to go out and be people literally
00:52:06.860
where they're at um in their hometowns and bring the show on the road has meant so much and it's
00:52:12.100
it's just so much fun and i get such a kick out of the live audience and having people like shout
00:52:17.780
things out and we get to just it's just like so much fun that is fun yeah okay well i'm coming
00:52:22.640
to zanies to watch you yeah so you're the best thank you for coming on the show yeah happy to
00:52:26.500
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00:52:32.280
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