Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - The Importance of Women's Sports

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00:01:50.200 I just recently joined Governor Pillen of Nebraska

00:01:53.460 for a ceremonial bill signing of his Stand With Women Act.

00:01:58.160 Today, we are talking to the lead sponsor of that bill, LB89.

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00:03:16.220 As I said, we are talking to the lead sponsor of LB89, the Stand With Women Act.

00:03:22.560 It was no easy feat getting this done in the state of Nebraska, which might come as a shock.

00:03:26.680 Many of you, like I did, believe Nebraska to be a fairly red state.

00:03:33.500 You wouldn't have to worry about things like this, which to provide a little context to

00:03:38.200 what this bill does, it literally just protects girls' sports. 1.00

00:03:42.300 It keeps men and boys out of girls' and women's sports.

00:03:46.300 Nebraska is now the 28th state to have done this.

00:03:49.400 But again, you would kind of be surprised Nebraska hasn't already.

00:03:53.280 Understand, they have a pretty rich history in civil rights,

00:03:57.500 going all the way back to the Native Americans, to Indians.

00:04:02.300 Governor Pillen actually told me this incredible story of Chief Standing Bear.

00:04:08.040 It was a court setting.

00:04:09.880 They were having some different legal proceedings.

00:04:13.440 Basically, the government was trying to argue that Indians were not citizens and not entitled

00:04:18.400 to sue in courts.

00:04:20.460 But the judge, in a totally unregulated fashion, this was not standard, this was not approved

00:04:27.340 by any means, he allowed Chief Standing Bear to deliver some remarks.

00:04:32.820 Chief Standing Bear, again, it's the visual you're picturing in your head, the feather cap,

00:04:40.440 wearing the Indian clothing.

00:04:42.900 He stands up and he says,

00:04:44.020 The hand is not the color of yours, but if I prick it, the blood will flow, and I shall

00:04:49.440 feel pain just as you would.

00:04:50.880 The blood is of the same color as yours.

00:04:52.740 God made me and I am a man.

00:04:54.120 I never committed any crime.

00:04:56.140 If I had, I would not stand here to make a defense.

00:04:58.200 I would suffer the punishment and make no complaint.

00:05:01.520 He goes on to say, I am a man.

00:05:05.200 You are men and I am a man.

00:05:06.820 And I think it's pretty remarkable because in this bill that Governor Pillen signed into

00:05:11.100 law that Senator Kowth has been advocating for now for three legislative sessions, it does

00:05:18.200 just that.

00:05:19.200 It defines the word man in state statute.

00:05:22.220 It defines the word woman, male, female, girl, boy, mother, father, words that we never

00:05:28.320 knew we would have to define, words that we imagined were long understood.

00:05:35.720 I mean, again, it goes back all the way to Chief Standing Bear.

00:05:38.160 He understood them and the judge following this understood them.

00:05:42.560 But unfortunately, we live in this time where things have become so conflated, so confused,

00:05:48.720 meaning something other than they were truly intended to mean.

00:05:52.360 But in the state of Nebraska, their state laws now know what a man is and what a woman 1.00

00:05:59.140 is.

00:06:00.100 We're talking to Senator Kowth today.

00:06:02.200 Check out this episode here.

00:06:03.940 Well, Senator Kowth, thank you so much for joining the Gains for Girls podcast.

00:06:08.320 Just had an opportunity to spend some time with you a little earlier this past month.

00:06:13.260 What you've been able to do, what you have been working on for several legislative sessions

00:06:18.520 now is crucial, but it has halfway been done.

00:06:21.800 We'll get to that.

00:06:22.840 And just really grateful for you and grateful for you joining this show.

00:06:27.120 The Stand With Women Act, LB89, that's what just passed. 0.99

00:06:31.100 Can you tell us a little bit about what this bill does?

00:06:34.340 The Stand With Women basically said men are men, women are women.

00:06:39.820 We now have that definition in statute, which is critically important.

00:06:43.260 It's important to make sure that everyone knows exactly what it is we're talking about.

00:06:47.200 Because you'll see with the left, they try to muddle things up.

00:06:49.680 They use their own made-up words.

00:06:51.760 And I do encourage anybody when they hear the term transgender, please change it to a man

00:06:57.680 who believes he's a woman or a woman who believes she's a man.

00:07:01.060 Don't get sucked into using the language because then it gets very, very confusing for everyone.

00:07:06.080 But this bill said basically boys do not compete on girls' sports teams.

00:07:10.100 They do not have access to their lockers and bathrooms.

00:07:12.740 We also had it expanded to state agencies to protect our prisons, to protect our domestic

00:07:17.060 violence.

00:07:18.180 It was, and you said, you know, halfway there, we had to remove part of the bill.

00:07:23.740 We had to remove the bathrooms and locker rooms and the state agencies because one of our

00:07:27.380 senators balked at the last minute.

00:07:29.720 And I mean, like, at the literal last minute, we were on the floor in the debate.

00:07:33.660 So we got just the athletics, but now K through post-secondary, boys will not be competing on

00:07:40.920 girls' sports teams.

00:07:42.560 Yeah, that's fantastic.

00:07:44.460 And to your point about the language portion, I've been saying this since the beginning.

00:07:48.780 It is so critical to use language.

00:07:51.700 And that's what's so important about this bill.

00:07:54.400 It's, it's, half of it is merely a definitional bill.

00:07:57.580 It's defining words like man, woman, girl, boy, mother, father, the list goes on, words

00:08:02.280 you never even, I mean, would have imagined we would have to define, certainly not in a

00:08:06.400 legislative setting, but here we are.

00:08:09.260 I've been saying it from the beginning, even using phrases like biological woman, it just

00:08:15.500 is demeaning to what it really means to be a woman.

00:08:18.840 Uh, and certainly people are desperate for clarity.

00:08:21.860 So I could not agree with you more there.

00:08:24.480 Biological woman. 0.99

00:08:25.660 I mean, it's, when you use the word woman, it means very specific.

00:08:29.700 Exactly.

00:08:30.540 Yeah.

00:08:30.740 We have a sitting Supreme court justice who can't even define this word.

00:08:34.860 Um, I, I like to say that Katanji Brown Jackson is actually just the third person of color.

00:08:39.580 She's nothing special because if she can't identify herself as something special and unique

00:08:44.400 and the first black woman sitting on the Supreme court, then no one else should either. 1.00

00:08:48.840 That's it.

00:08:49.240 That's right.

00:08:50.220 You mentioned you had some, some trouble getting this bill over the line, uh, even at the last

00:08:55.720 minute here, what kind of dynamic were you witnessing?

00:09:00.580 And was this something that fell on party lines when it came down to it?

00:09:04.980 So yeah, very much party lines.

00:09:06.680 Um, this is my third year in the legislature.

00:09:09.980 So year one, I introduced both a sports and spaces bill that only addressed K through 12.

00:09:15.300 I thought, well, that's a reasonable step.

00:09:16.920 We'll protect kids who cannot leave their schools.

00:09:19.800 They can't, they don't have the choice of going to a different college.

00:09:21.780 We'll protect them first.

00:09:22.860 And I also introduced a bill called let them grow, which said under the age of 19, you

00:09:27.360 do not do surgeries on kids to change the appearance of their sex, um, or put them on

00:09:32.620 drugs.

00:09:32.980 And so I was able to get that one passed.

00:09:35.240 We tightened up the drugs and got surgeries banned.

00:09:37.920 But I think my, my conservatives in the legislature really had a hard time grasping that this

00:09:45.460 happens, that this is an issue, that there are boys who want to compete on girls teams

00:09:50.240 and want to be in the locker rooms and bathrooms.

00:09:52.000 So there's a lot of, of just kind of passive resistance to it and they were exhausted.

00:09:56.420 So it didn't get past that year or the next year, the, the, um, sports and spaces bill.

00:10:01.820 So this year, when I introduce it, I, I tell people if, if I don't get what's reasonable,

00:10:07.760 when I introduce something reasonable, I'm going to come back with much, much more.

00:10:11.660 Um, I, I think that they'll start to get the hang of it.

00:10:15.740 Once I keep bringing things back and have expanded them.

00:10:18.920 So this year it was all athletics and all, uh, state agencies, again, to make sure our

00:10:24.460 prisons, our department of health and human services, we're treating men as men and women

00:10:28.880 as women, uh, as well as all of our, uh, education.

00:10:32.520 Uh, so it was very difficult.

00:10:34.700 We, we had one Senator and it was very much party line.

00:10:38.420 So in Nebraska, we have to have 33 votes to get anything passed because we have 49, uh,

00:10:44.320 people in our body.

00:10:45.320 We're a unicameral, which is very different.

00:10:47.140 We don't have a second house that we go to.

00:10:49.540 So we had, um, 33 Republicans, but one of them balked and he has balked before.

00:10:55.440 And he decided very much at the last minute that he didn't think that bathrooms and locker

00:11:00.880 rooms were a problem.

00:11:02.640 He said, we shouldn't be the potty police and, you know, kind of demeaned it.

00:11:07.000 Meanwhile, one of our Democrats, and I want to stress, no Democrat has ever supported any

00:11:13.340 of these bills.

00:11:14.180 They always vote against them every single one, even the ones who have pulled me aside

00:11:18.340 quietly said, look, I agree with you.

00:11:20.320 I don't want boys and girls sports, but I can't say it.

00:11:23.080 And I'll be crucified if I do.

00:11:24.740 So there is, there's a lack of backbone amongst the Democrats.

00:11:28.540 They only do what the party line tells them to do.

00:11:31.100 Um, but we have one of our Democrat senators getting up during the debate saying, and a

00:11:36.680 female center saying, I'm not afraid of a trans woman in a bathroom, but I am afraid 1.00

00:11:42.500 of a cis male in the bathroom.

00:11:44.420 I said, so basically a trans woman is a man and what you're calling a cis man is a man said,

00:11:52.160 so you're afraid of men in the bathrooms. 0.97

00:11:53.540 You've just made my point.

00:11:55.180 And, you know, they, they can't hear that kind of information.

00:11:59.020 It's so like, it's mind boggling.

00:12:03.500 And I, I, I can't, I have a hard time understanding if they really believe what they're saying.

00:12:11.580 You, you guys in Nebraska have some pretty insufferable Democrats, uh, and, and the different

00:12:17.700 interactions that I've had on social media, uh, the different clips that I've seen from

00:12:22.440 debates on the floor, uh, definitely some pretty insufferable ones in your state.

00:12:28.100 My mom is a therapist and she actually, she lives in California now.

00:12:31.280 So she will watch the legislature and very frequently she will be texting me and saying,

00:12:36.400 diagnosing people like this person has borderline personality disorder disorder with narcissistic

00:12:41.000 tendencies.

00:12:41.660 I'm like, okay, mom, you gotta walk away.

00:12:43.060 It's okay.

00:12:43.640 It's like psychoanalyzing.

00:12:45.300 Yeah. 1.00

00:12:45.700 She's like, they are all, they're crazy. 0.99

00:12:48.040 Yeah. 1.00

00:12:48.320 Crazy is to put it mildly.

00:12:50.360 Um, and to your point about the compromise portion, this is a common theme.

00:12:53.820 It's what we see relatively often.

00:12:55.940 And especially at the state level, you'll have, uh, Republicans or conservatives introduce

00:13:01.080 legislation and, and feel like they need to give something.

00:13:03.880 And understandably, of course, it's a game you have to play.

00:13:06.180 If you're trying to pass legislation, uh, especially when you, you take the wins where

00:13:10.340 you can get them, those incremental wins, uh, are wins nonetheless, but the other side

00:13:16.300 is not willing to compromise most of the time.

00:13:19.160 And it, yeah, no.

00:13:21.660 So that's, um, par for the course.

00:13:24.140 That's what we've seen in several, several different states, even states like Texas, they

00:13:27.840 originally passed their sports bill K through 12 and went back, uh, the next legislative

00:13:32.040 session and ended up passing through college.

00:13:35.100 So it's no easy feat to, to get all of the important things, the critical things in the

00:13:40.820 original piece of legislation.

00:13:42.240 The first time, uh, no easy feat.

00:13:45.260 That's why it is important actually to start off really big.

00:13:48.860 And as I'm learning that as I go again, I thought, well, I'll be reasonable and do it

00:13:52.560 step-by-step start off really big understanding that it's going to be cut down and sometimes

00:13:57.860 by your own side, because again, a lot of people have a very hard time grasping this

00:14:03.680 because it is so foreign to people who think common sense is just, you know, boys going

00:14:08.780 to boys locker rooms, girls going to girls locker rooms.

00:14:11.500 So starting off really big means you have some flexibility, like in the back of my head,

00:14:15.400 I always know what are the things that I can live without in this bill.

00:14:18.140 And, um, you know, that's, that's a game that we have to play.

00:14:22.560 Yeah, absolutely.

00:14:23.720 And one more thing you mentioned, how, uh, you have people on both sides of the aisle

00:14:28.160 who said, look, this is, this is a solution in search of a problem.

00:14:31.540 It's not really happening here in the state of Nebraska.

00:14:33.560 We only have three trans athletes in the entire state, which again, number one, uh, it's 1.00

00:14:38.640 incredibly underreported.

00:14:40.040 That's not true.

00:14:40.740 And number two is one girl, not enough. 0.93

00:14:42.980 And, uh, you had a, a conservative or at least a Senator with an R by his name who, who kind

00:14:49.980 of balked here, but you have a constituent who has had a problem with this.

00:14:54.680 And of course I would not ask you to name her, but can you kind of describe this scenario

00:14:58.040 that one of your constituents has been facing?

00:15:00.940 I've actually had a lot of my constituents, uh, going door to door.

00:15:04.180 People said, look, this, that we hear this happening.

00:15:06.120 I've had teachers say, yep, this is happening.

00:15:08.160 We can't talk about it.

00:15:09.140 And we're just hoping to pass this kid out to the next level, um, in the, the hearing

00:15:14.120 people came out of the woodwork saying you wouldn't believe how many elementary and middle

00:15:18.600 school kids there are who are trans.

00:15:20.240 So you've just got to deal with it and be prepared for it, which to me, 0.03% of people

00:15:25.740 are actually, uh, the, the actual definition of transgender.

00:15:31.280 And so for that many people to have gender dysphoria, it means this is a social contagion and 1.00

00:15:35.380 a serious, serious problem.

00:15:36.880 Um, the young woman who I get reached out to by people from districts all over the place.

00:15:42.160 And the young woman whose parents reached out to me is from Lincoln Southeast.

00:15:46.180 And that is, uh, it's outside my district.

00:15:48.400 It's in a different Senator's district, but they have two boys who go into the locker rooms

00:15:53.500 and watch the girls. 0.98

00:15:54.560 And they say they're, they're girls sometimes.

00:15:58.260 And, you know, they kind of switch it up again.

00:15:59.940 It's this, this whole fluidity thing that you can never pin down when somebody is or is not

00:16:05.900 a male or female.

00:16:06.800 So that gives a lot of flexibility to people to do whatever they want.

00:16:10.580 And of course we will see people with malintentions taking advantage of it.

00:16:16.460 And I got to meet this, uh, young girl at the bill signing, uh, and the words that both

00:16:26.120 she and her parents spoke to me is, is horrific.

00:16:29.420 I don't, I think people downplay the trauma and I don't use that word lightly, the trauma

00:16:35.560 of young girls.

00:16:36.560 Think about it.

00:16:37.200 Think of how uncomfortable you are in your body as a 13, 14, 15 year old girl in general,

00:16:43.660 like, like take out the fact of man is watching you undress, how uncomfortable that puberty

00:16:48.340 period is in general.

00:16:50.400 And then to insert a man into that locker room. 1.00

00:16:53.580 Uh, so to listen to them, it broke my heart, but I saw how grateful they were for, for people

00:16:58.700 like you, for people, people like governor pillin.

00:17:01.960 Um, if anyone has watched women's collegiate sports, uh, they know how much, uh, women's

00:17:10.360 sports mean to the state of Nebraska, but can you touch on this?

00:17:13.220 I think, especially the volleyball program, it was one of the most amazing things ever.

00:17:18.240 Uh, just, I think almost two years ago, I think this was in 2023 where the, the women's, 0.69

00:17:24.600 um, volleyball team, university of Nebraska broke the all time.

00:17:29.900 Um, I think the world record of how many in attendance to watch a women's sporting game 0.62

00:17:36.820 or match.

00:17:37.400 And it was the most amazing thing to be able to see.

00:17:39.680 So can you just touch about on how much women's sports mean to the state of Nebraska?

00:17:44.940 Tremendous amounts.

00:17:45.760 And that's why, again, this is so very important because we fight for our women's sports.

00:17:50.800 We have done amazing things with it.

00:17:52.560 And if we start allowing men to play women's sports that are not women's sports, it's not 0.87

00:17:56.700 the same thing.

00:17:57.420 Um, so in 2023, and this was actually right after I got the, let them grow bill past, um,

00:18:04.420 still trying to work on sports and spaces, but it really got a lot of people like, okay,

00:18:09.420 the power of these women down there and understanding as powerful as they are, a guy could still absolutely

00:18:16.160 demolish them. 0.96

00:18:17.700 So our, our volleyball team, um, our athletic director did this amazing thing where they

00:18:22.660 took our football field, which Nebraska football is a huge deal, huge deal, but they

00:18:27.200 covered the football field with a volleyball court and they packed people in.

00:18:32.160 And I think our stadium, um, size is like 86,000, but we had, they had people down on the

00:18:38.980 field around the court, 92,003 people was the official total.

00:18:44.540 It was amazing.

00:18:46.380 People were going nuts.

00:18:47.660 We were watching the games.

00:18:48.800 It was, it was an absolutely fantastic display of women's athletics and it made worldwide

00:18:55.840 attention.

00:18:57.320 I actually, they, they did this cool thing where they took the court and they cut it up

00:19:00.820 into pieces and they sold those.

00:19:02.940 They registered all the pieces and they sold them.

00:19:04.900 And so I actually have a piece of the volleyball court and Rebecca Alec, who is one of the

00:19:09.080 stars of that team has been a tremendous support and help for my bills.

00:19:13.480 And so I was able to show her, Hey, I've got a piece of the floor you once stood on.

00:19:18.080 It's, um, you mentioned Rebecca and Jordy.

00:19:21.540 I had met Jordy prior to, to the most recent bill signing, but I hadn't met Becca before.

00:19:26.640 Um, but of course I have admired those two girls for so long.

00:19:31.260 Jordy ball is a part of, of course, the university of Nebraska women's softball team.

00:19:34.580 Again, Becca is a part of their, their volleyball team.

00:19:37.320 Uh, both of those teams are incredible on a national stage.

00:19:41.580 Um, both of those athletes are personally incredible on a national stage.

00:19:46.420 Um, but there was a, a commercial they did.

00:19:49.660 Um, maybe I think it was maybe last year and it was one of the most beautiful displays I

00:19:54.920 had ever and heroic and brave.

00:19:57.040 It is so hard to put yourself out there, especially on an issue that is deemed controversial.

00:20:03.200 The issue of, of, um, being pro-life it's deemed controversial.

00:20:07.620 It is the most critical issues of all, in my opinion, because if, I mean, that is the most

00:20:11.940 vulnerable that we are talking about, but they so bravely and so publicly put their name

00:20:16.760 to it.

00:20:17.180 I mean, how cool was it for them to be a part of that from your perspective as a Senator?

00:20:21.980 Absolutely amazing.

00:20:22.700 First of all, um, it came together very seamlessly.

00:20:25.580 I mean, it was very much a God thing.

00:20:26.920 Somebody had an idea, Nebraska family alliance, somebody had a contact and they called and

00:20:31.580 these amazing young women said yes. 0.94

00:20:34.380 Um, and they did get hit hard and really, really hard.

00:20:38.220 I know Jordy and Rebecca were like, no big deal.

00:20:41.920 It really impacted some of the other girls very, very seriously because the things that

00:20:46.860 were being said to them and about them.

00:20:48.960 And for them, it was just, this is what I believe and I'm willing to stand up and talk

00:20:53.720 about it and to not have that same respect as far as what people were saying to them was,

00:20:58.680 was really, um, shocking to them.

00:21:01.640 And, uh, it's, it's disappointing that people would attack young women for stating their beliefs.

00:21:07.700 Yeah.

00:21:08.180 Yeah.

00:21:08.600 And they do it with such venom.

00:21:10.580 Yeah.

00:21:10.740 Really?

00:21:11.320 Yeah.

00:21:11.960 Uh, as I said, uh, got to see both of these girls at the signing. 0.99

00:21:16.760 We have a clip of Jordy here.

00:21:18.600 We're going to play it really briefly.

00:21:20.340 First, I guess I just want to say, thank you.

00:21:23.280 Um, I've never been more proud to be a Nebraskan.

00:21:27.160 And when I did go to Oklahoma, but then transferred back home, all I could think about was how amazing

00:21:32.380 it was going to be to get to wear the Nebraska Jersey and wear that home state proud on my chest.

00:21:37.600 Um, but I never could have imagined how much more pride I would feel in getting to be a part

00:21:44.780 of what ultimately is so much more important than playing softball.

00:21:49.580 Um, and I just want to also say that in standing up for this, like it was never out of my own

00:21:54.180 personal interests.

00:21:55.340 I, I have one year left of playing.

00:21:57.300 I was always thinking about the younger athletes, the athletes who haven't even started their careers

00:22:01.500 yet.

00:22:02.060 And it's not political.

00:22:03.360 It's right and wrong.

00:22:04.320 It's, um, it's so powerful to hear her say those things again.

00:22:08.600 She's someone I've admired far before I ever knew her politics.

00:22:13.320 I ever knew where she stood on issues like this, uh, just for her athleticism, her success 1.00

00:22:18.580 on the field.

00:22:19.800 Uh, I watched her at Oklahoma.

00:22:21.400 I've watched her at Nebraska.

00:22:22.380 I watched how, uh, she leads with Christ first. 0.76

00:22:26.800 I mean, what did it mean to have her at this signing and all of her support for you that

00:22:31.000 she's shown?

00:22:31.860 You know, it's, it's fantastic.

00:22:33.320 First of all, both she and Rebecca have huge platforms.

00:22:37.060 And like you, when you have a platform like that, there is a certain weight of responsibility

00:22:41.700 where the words that you say, and I think Simone Biles is probably finding this out, have an

00:22:47.000 impact that goes far beyond what that, that momentary thought you're having is.

00:22:51.800 So for them to think very clearly and deeply about what they're choosing to support, it

00:22:56.640 means the world to me because that helped a lot to get this done.

00:23:01.120 Yeah, absolutely.

00:23:01.800 So bathrooms, uh, prisons, the, the certain pieces that got pushed out this time, is that

00:23:09.340 something that's a priority for you next session?

00:23:12.400 Of course.

00:23:12.980 And I keep telling people, again, we could have been done, but now we're not.

00:23:16.880 So I will be bringing the bathrooms and locker rooms back.

00:23:19.100 I'm also looking at a detransitioner bill of rights. 0.99

00:23:22.240 Um, I am asking our department of health and human services to reevaluate the rules and

00:23:27.620 regulations that we put on the puberty blockers and the cross-sex hormones.

00:23:31.000 Based on the, um, federal health and human services report that came out that mirrors 0.61

00:23:35.860 the cast report about how very damaging these are.

00:23:38.700 And I want to tighten those up.

00:23:40.080 Uh, and then I'm considering doing a study next summer to see, you know, is this child

00:23:46.880 abuse?

00:23:47.240 I think it is.

00:23:48.040 I think when parents or doctors or whoever is pushing young kids to get into this mindset

00:23:53.980 and to deny them the reality of sex, I think there's a, especially after all of the

00:24:00.980 people who came and testified about their kids who I had one woman come and say, well,

00:24:06.760 I have a son and a daughter.

00:24:08.520 And when they were, I think she said eight and nine, they realized that they were each

00:24:12.280 the opposite sex. 0.71

00:24:13.200 So I got them on drugs and now I have a daughter and a son.

00:24:16.740 I don't understand that.

00:24:18.680 And it's not, it's not possible.

00:24:20.640 And so I want to really do some deep dives into is this child abuse and how are we harming

00:24:27.100 our kids?

00:24:28.540 Yeah.

00:24:28.900 Hearing you say that about the detransitioner bill of rights, I believe there's a hospital 1.00

00:24:34.580 in Nebraska that has been mentioned on a lawsuit.

00:24:38.640 You betcha.

00:24:39.060 So Luca Hein, um, is from this area.

00:24:42.060 And when she was 15, she went through a very, very difficult time, um, was seeking day treatment

00:24:48.280 services.

00:24:48.900 Her parents were going through a horrendous divorce, really a lot of difficulty.

00:24:52.980 And she searching for something said, maybe I'm, maybe I'm a boy.

00:24:58.040 And they seized on it.

00:24:59.500 She met with a therapist whose spouse is a trans.

00:25:05.200 I don't remember which way, um, but very much not an unbiased person, uh, who pushed

00:25:12.260 her and said, you know what?

00:25:13.120 You must be a boy that would solve all your problems.

00:25:15.660 Met with UNMC.

00:25:17.600 And, um, by the time she was 16, she had her breast removed and was put on testosterone.

00:25:23.340 And when I met her, she was 20 about to turn 21.

00:25:27.040 She had stopped the testosterone because of the excruciating pain she was in because of

00:25:32.100 the drugs.

00:25:32.760 And she realized that wasn't ever the problem.

00:25:36.440 They never treated her for depression, for anxiety, um, didn't acknowledge the fact that

00:25:41.600 she was going through, you know, a terrible family struggle.

00:25:44.060 They just pushed her into surgical and medical interventions. 1.00

00:25:47.980 She came and testified for my, let them grow bill.

00:25:50.420 The doctor who was in charge of her care was there in her little white coat. 0.99

00:25:55.480 You know, they wear the white coats when they come testify, they wear the white coats when

00:25:59.300 they go out to the grocery store.

00:26:00.420 But to come and testify, they want to remind you that they are a doctor and they must know

00:26:05.320 everything.

00:26:05.880 And you must know nothing.

00:26:06.980 You are not a doctor.

00:26:09.040 Um, and Luca was incredibly brave.

00:26:11.460 She had a brief panic attack because this is someone who harmed her very, very badly.

00:26:16.180 Um, she got up and she testified and Luca has been responsible for many, many states passing

00:26:22.400 these laws to protect children.

00:26:24.920 Think of all the things you cannot do at 16 years old.

00:26:28.540 I mean, you can, you can hardly drive a car.

00:26:31.040 You can't buy cigarettes.

00:26:32.120 Of course you can drink alcohol.

00:26:33.500 You can't go to a casino.

00:26:34.640 No, you can't rent a car, but you can, yeah, but you can consent to removing your breast. 1.00

00:26:40.740 Yeah.

00:26:40.960 Your parents cannot say, yes, you may get a tattoo on your face in the state of Nebraska

00:26:45.380 because it's permanent and the parents don't have to live with it.

00:26:48.540 And so they can't make that choice because a kid still doesn't understand. 0.90

00:26:51.720 But yet a parent can say, yes, cut off my child's genitalia, put them on all three drugs that 0.95

00:26:58.100 we have no idea what the outcome is going to be.

00:27:01.760 There are no studies showing any sort of safety, any sort of progress.

00:27:07.120 In fact, there was a study done.

00:27:09.640 Oh, I can't remember when it started.

00:27:11.180 The results were out in 2019, but the doctor here who ran the study and through NIH funded

00:27:17.500 it, she refused to publish the results because they were not in her favor.

00:27:21.720 And she didn't want the opposition to get ahold of it.

00:27:24.740 So basically the study proved that this does not improve any child's mental well-being by

00:27:31.820 putting them through this.

00:27:32.680 So it's, it is a deep, deep and ugly, uh, morass of medical malpractice.

00:27:39.240 Well, God bless you for taking it on, being willing to take it on.

00:27:43.920 Well, it's not easy.

00:27:45.740 Um, it is easy actually to be, to be clear.

00:27:49.400 It's easy to do the right thing, uh, to, especially when you know you're on the right

00:27:54.100 side of history, but the onslaught of negativity and hatred that comes with it, um, it's not

00:28:01.340 what everyone would sign themselves up for.

00:28:03.140 Um, but that's why we're so grateful for you.

00:28:05.920 What are some other legislative priorities, uh, going into the next session?

00:28:10.760 Going into next year, um, I'm looking at a couple of different property tax issues.

00:28:14.360 We have property tax in Nebraska as a problem.

00:28:16.820 So I had a bill this year that we were trying to get out of the committee.

00:28:19.680 We're going to keep working on it over the summer.

00:28:21.880 Um, because it's still in committee, we can make adjustments to it easier.

00:28:25.620 So I'm working with a bunch of senators on that to make sure that we can get something

00:28:29.120 done property tax wise, uh, we always look at school choice issues.

00:28:33.320 That's something that comes up.

00:28:34.480 And I, I was just on a meeting before this one with Congressman Adrian Smith.

00:28:38.820 There is a federal, um, bill to push or to create opportunity scholarships.

00:28:45.660 So scholarships for kids to go to private schools who are not succeeding in public schools.

00:28:50.040 When you look at, uh, in Nebraska, we have a Omaha public school district.

00:28:54.360 Their, their reading is at 22%, their science is at 21% and their math scores, 16% of the

00:29:02.060 kids can do math.

00:29:03.260 That is not in any way, shape or form acceptable.

00:29:05.980 Kids need a way to go to a school that fits them best.

00:29:08.540 So we've been working on that for quite a while.

00:29:11.280 Yeah, that's fantastic.

00:29:12.820 We've seen the benefits of school choice in Tennessee.

00:29:15.820 So, uh, my home state.

00:29:18.220 And no public school has gone bankrupt.

00:29:21.200 They're all still fine.

00:29:22.640 They're there, the, the paranoia and the, um, the screeching from the teachers union is

00:29:28.760 this is going to destroy, destroy public education.

00:29:31.200 If public education is that frail, um, then perhaps it needs to be.

00:29:35.820 And ours here is very, very strong, but we need kids to have a way to go somewhere that

00:29:40.500 fits them best.

00:29:42.160 Absolutely.

00:29:42.840 Well, Senator Kowth, thank you so much.

00:29:45.540 Uh, we look forward to following along, uh, what is to come next.

00:29:49.600 Uh, we will certainly be amplifying and cheering you on every step of the way.

00:29:53.820 Uh, so thank you for being a warrior, defending the right of parents, defending the right of,

00:29:58.500 of, uh, women and defending the safeguarding, maintaining the innocence of children.

00:30:04.480 Thank you so much, Riley.

00:30:06.720 Thank you guys for tuning into the Gains for Girls podcast.

00:30:09.660 I hope you enjoyed this episode.

00:30:11.440 Senator Kowth, as you can tell, uh, she's fiery. 1.00

00:30:14.980 She's fierce.

00:30:15.740 She is one of the good ones.

00:30:16.860 So, uh, we will continue to watch what she is doing in the state of Nebraska and how

00:30:20.600 that translates to the rest of the nation.

00:30:23.180 Uh, and I just wanted to, again, personally mention and give a shout out to those two athletes,

00:30:30.500 Jordy ball and Rebecca Alec, uh, part of the university of Nebraska women's softball team,

00:30:35.560 uh, and Becca being a part of the university of Nebraska women's volleyball team. 0.99

00:30:39.580 These girls still have, I mean, another year of, of playing time. 1.00

00:30:44.720 They're not done.

00:30:45.740 They haven't graduated.

00:30:46.960 Uh, they have a lot to lose yet.

00:30:49.360 They're still willing to do the right thing.

00:30:51.720 Uh, and being able to, to talk with those girls in person, uh, hearing them just declare

00:30:59.300 why this matters so much to them, uh, how they know they're on the right side of history,

00:31:03.660 uh, is really, really special, really, really powerful.

00:31:06.900 So if you're watching this and you've got, uh, young daughters or young sons for that

00:31:11.760 matter, and they need some role models, uh, I would look no further than Jordy ball and

00:31:16.360 Becca Alec, uh, appreciate you guys again, cozy earth.com.

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00:31:43.940 Bye.

Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - June 25, 2025

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