Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - When the Playing Field Gets a Little Too 'Gender-Bending＂ with Rep. Andy Barr

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00:00:30.000 Welcome back to the Gains for Girls podcast.

00:00:36.340 Today, I'm super excited because we're talking not only to a U.S. House of Representatives from Kentucky,

00:00:42.720 he's a fellow Wildcat, which is always good news.

00:00:46.720 Representative Andy Barr has been a champion for not only Kentucky families,

00:00:51.320 but for American families.

00:00:53.620 And he stands with Lemon.

00:00:55.340 Check out the interview here.

00:00:56.480 Well, thank you so much, Red Bar, for joining.

00:01:02.660 Of course, I feel like we bond on a personal level.

00:01:06.580 I've met you several, several times.

00:01:08.660 The work you do is amazing.

00:01:09.840 You've been so supportive of me and my cause.

00:01:12.340 But almost more importantly, you're a Kentucky Wildcat,

00:01:15.940 which is, I'm biased,

00:01:18.640 but certainly the best school, at least in the SEC.

00:01:21.680 But I wanted to tell you, before we get into kind of the policy talk and different things,

00:01:28.600 I want to talk to you about UK's stance on a lot of these issues.

00:01:33.200 As you can imagine, the university, like most universities,

00:01:37.460 is taking this approach where they're not siding with common sense,

00:01:43.100 whether that be over the COVID issues,

00:01:45.540 of course, whether that be over the gender ideology issues.

00:01:48.560 And so I'll briefly tell you, before this national championships,

00:01:53.040 where we faced Leah Thomas, again, a male, formerly Will Thomas,

00:01:57.400 swam three years on the men's team at University of Pennsylvania,

00:02:01.260 University of Kentucky made us go to training,

00:02:04.460 where we had to learn how to use she or her pronouns,

00:02:07.540 which I just thought was the craziest thing.

00:02:10.260 You know, being 21 years old, a senior in college,

00:02:13.700 they're sitting there teaching me how to use pronouns.

00:02:16.600 I mean, something so entry-level, you don't even learn it in school.

00:02:20.820 You learn pronouns before you can even form full, coherent sentences.

00:02:25.400 And so I was just really surprised by this.

00:02:28.340 The athletic department was amazing and supportive to me,

00:02:31.140 but the system as a whole, I was shocked with,

00:02:34.980 and actually utterly unimpressed with.

00:02:36.880 And so I kind of wanted to ask you,

00:02:38.700 what direction do you see universities going?

00:02:41.720 Well, first of all, Riley, thank you so much for your courageous stand,

00:02:47.520 for your common sense, for your advocacy for women and girls and athletics.

00:02:51.860 And thank you for representing the Big Blue Nation so well.

00:02:56.780 I do represent the University of Kentucky.

00:02:59.600 I'm born and raised in Lexington, Kentucky.

00:03:02.040 I grew up going to cheer for Kentucky at Commonwealth Stadium,

00:03:05.940 now Kroger Field and also Rupp Arena.

00:03:09.380 And I'm a fan of all UK sports, including the women's sports teams.

00:03:14.860 And, you know, I graduated from high school.

00:03:19.880 I ran cross-country in high school.

00:03:21.580 I played soccer when I was a kid.

00:03:24.260 I graduated from the University of Virginia,

00:03:26.780 and I went to the University of Kentucky for law school.

00:03:29.160 And in all of my experiences in education growing up,

00:03:33.620 it was not even imaginable that you would have these kind of pronouns

00:03:39.940 that are inconsistent with basic biology or this movement to normalize discriminatory practices

00:03:50.160 against girls in sports. 0.97

00:03:51.900 I'm the father now of two daughters.

00:03:54.500 Eleanor is 12.

00:03:56.120 She is a volleyball star.

00:03:58.460 And she's also a basketball player on the varsity basketball team in her school.

00:04:04.320 She's made the varsity, even though she's in seventh grade, for volleyball.

00:04:08.660 And then my little one, my 10-year-old, she's on a soccer team.

00:04:13.420 She's getting better every single day.

00:04:16.000 Her best friend, who's a really, really outstanding young athlete,

00:04:21.980 who scores a hat trick every game.

00:04:24.420 She got my daughter into soccer.

00:04:27.500 And I just think, you know, fighting for these girls in their sports

00:04:32.600 to be able to compete and achieve their potential

00:04:34.900 and to strive for victory and do it on a level playing field is just basic.

00:04:42.120 I mean, it is fundamental.

00:04:44.360 And so what you're doing, and, you know,

00:04:47.640 it should be just common sense for everybody,

00:04:50.340 but it is in today's politically correct society,

00:04:53.660 it is a courageous stand that you're making.

00:04:56.080 But you're doing it not just advocating for yourself and your peers.

00:04:59.040 I want to thank you as a dad of two little girls

00:05:02.660 that are going to continue to grow in their athletic pursuits.

00:05:06.220 You're fighting for them, and that means a lot to me as a father.

00:05:10.320 Well, no doubt.

00:05:11.920 That's certainly what this is about.

00:05:14.440 I'm done competing.

00:05:16.020 No one wants to watch me swim anymore.

00:05:17.840 I'd probably drown if I tried to swim.

00:05:19.920 Actually, I still think I'd be Keith Olbermann.

00:05:21.760 But I'd probably drown if I tried to swim.

00:05:25.060 So it's definitely not about me.

00:05:27.260 It's about those young girls like your daughter

00:05:29.080 and ensuring they have the same opportunities that I had throughout my career.

00:05:34.260 But speaking of policy,

00:05:36.440 this issue, it's become controversial,

00:05:41.940 fallen entirely on farting lines, it seems,

00:05:44.920 at least within the legislature, both at the state and federal level.

00:05:48.820 And we have an administration in the White House right now

00:05:51.200 who's actively working to rewrite Title IX.

00:05:54.540 Of course, Title IX, it's a beautiful,

00:05:57.340 it's only 37 words,

00:05:58.800 a 37-word federal civil rights law

00:06:01.240 enacted to prevent discrimination on the basis of sex.

00:06:05.240 But they're rewriting that entirely

00:06:06.980 to where sex would equate to gender identity,

00:06:09.660 meaning men can join sororities,

00:06:11.720 which is already happening.

00:06:13.440 Men can live in dorm rooms, 0.97

00:06:15.020 of course can take athletic and academic scholarships.

00:06:17.560 Men would have full access to bathrooms, 1.00

00:06:20.960 locker rooms, changing spaces.

00:06:23.300 I actually saw a tweet yesterday from AOC

00:06:26.500 who went on to call Republicans,

00:06:28.740 all Republicans, misogynists.

00:06:31.200 But she said,

00:06:32.740 the original intent of Title IX

00:06:34.740 was indefensible and embarrassing.

00:06:38.520 I don't know how she is able to call anyone a misogynist

00:06:41.940 without claiming to be one herself

00:06:43.640 when she says equal opportunities for women

00:06:46.060 are indefensible and embarrassing.

00:06:48.640 But the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act

00:06:53.180 introduced by Greg Subi in the House,

00:06:56.260 which you voted in support of.

00:06:58.640 As I said, it's fallen almost entirely on party lines.

00:07:02.020 Why do you think this is?

00:07:04.280 Well, it is disappointing.

00:07:05.440 And Alexandria is a colleague of mine.

00:07:08.480 We debate on all matters of things.

00:07:11.080 We don't see the world the same way in many respects.

00:07:15.440 But I would just challenge her on this point

00:07:19.180 and be happy to debate her at any time about this.

00:07:21.940 Again, as a father of two female athletes,

00:07:25.320 Title IX enacted 50 years ago

00:07:28.480 has been a huge benefit for women and girls.

00:07:33.720 And female participation in sports 0.99

00:07:36.640 since the passage of Title IX

00:07:38.400 has increased 1,057% at the high school level

00:07:42.640 and 614% at the post-secondary level.

00:07:46.880 In other words, Title IX really revolutionized women's sports. 1.00

00:07:50.380 And for the Biden administration to want to rewrite that,

00:07:53.460 to diminish the gains that female athletes have made 0.98

00:07:58.420 over these last 50 years is really indefensible.

00:08:02.460 And what they basically want to do with this regulation

00:08:05.960 that the Biden administration has proposed

00:08:08.200 would eliminate the states, including my own state,

00:08:12.000 our state, the Commonwealth of Kentucky,

00:08:14.600 our ability to protect in a comprehensive way

00:08:19.420 women and girls from discrimination in athletics,

00:08:22.440 protect them from biological male athletes

00:08:25.440 competing against them.

00:08:27.320 And there are, look, it's biology.

00:08:30.280 It is, this is not about politics.

00:08:32.760 It's about biology and there are certain

00:08:37.380 just fundamental differences between men and women.

00:08:40.260 Now, I will just stipulate right up front,

00:08:43.000 if you and I were to get into a sling pool and compete,

00:08:46.060 you would laugh me multiple times.

00:08:48.860 So I'm not saying that women can't compete successfully

00:08:51.460 against men, especially, you know,

00:08:54.020 a great athlete like you

00:08:55.420 and a very substandard athlete like myself.

00:08:57.840 But that's not the point.

00:08:58.680 The point is, we want a level playing field

00:09:01.180 in competitive athletics.

00:09:04.480 Absolutely.

00:09:05.240 And this is the same argument.

00:09:07.000 I was a part of a Senate Judiciary hearing

00:09:09.260 where I was sat next to the human rights campaign president

00:09:12.560 and that was her argument, you know.

00:09:14.760 Senator Joe Kennedy, who's standing on the other side,

00:09:17.540 you know, he's asking her,

00:09:18.960 well, how many genders are there? 1.00

00:09:21.240 And she didn't know how to respond.

00:09:23.280 She said, there's an infinite number of genders. 1.00

00:09:25.160 And then she goes on to say exactly your argument.

00:09:27.420 And she said, well, Serena Williams,

00:09:29.720 she can beat lots of men in tennis. 1.00

00:09:33.120 And Senator Kennedy then looks at me and he says,

00:09:35.440 you know, Raul, what's your experience?

00:09:37.860 And I told her, well, Senator Kennedy,

00:09:41.660 if Kelly Robinson is alluding to the fact

00:09:44.180 that Serena Williams can beat you in tennis,

00:09:46.760 I'm sorry, I agree.

00:09:49.540 But Serena and Venus Williams lost in a blowout 0.93

00:09:52.960 to the 203rd rate male tennis player.

00:09:55.780 That's the argument.

00:09:57.500 And to do any other argument is disingenuous

00:10:00.420 to what we're actually saying.

00:10:03.600 President Biden, we've talked about

00:10:05.860 what he's doing to Title IX.

00:10:07.080 Of course, he said he will veto HR Senate 3-4,

00:10:10.580 which is the Protection of Women and Girls

00:10:12.300 in Sports Act.

00:10:14.280 It's stuck in the Senate right now,

00:10:15.900 but he said if it makes it to his desk,

00:10:17.420 he's going to veto it.

00:10:19.120 And so what message do you think

00:10:20.440 this sends to young girls?

00:10:21.800 Young girls like your daughter who are aspiring athletes,

00:10:25.580 who are already accomplishing amazing things,

00:10:28.380 but have big dreams?

00:10:29.360 What message is this sending?

00:10:31.840 Well, it sends a terrible message

00:10:35.000 that women's sports do not deserve 1.00

00:10:39.220 the protection that it has earned

00:10:41.180 over these last 50 years

00:10:42.600 where women are encouraged to participate in sports.

00:10:45.440 Look, you know as an athlete what sports do.

00:10:47.900 I certainly benefited from participation in soccer

00:10:51.080 in my baseball teams.

00:10:52.660 I played basketball when I was a kid.

00:10:55.660 I ran on the cross-country team.

00:10:57.860 I was better at that than anything else at the time.

00:11:01.420 And so the camaraderie of teamwork

00:11:04.220 and the effort of competition

00:11:07.320 keeps you out of trouble too

00:11:08.520 when you're a teenager working.

00:11:10.860 And so we don't want to discourage young girls

00:11:13.420 from that experience.

00:11:14.580 We don't want to discourage young women 0.57

00:11:16.560 from that experience of the camaraderie

00:11:18.880 of a teen,

00:11:20.600 of pushing yourself to achieve excellence

00:11:23.240 because it's just unfair from the start.

00:11:25.760 That's not right.

00:11:27.900 And look, it's a fundamental recognition

00:11:31.200 that there are certain physical attributes

00:11:34.780 of males that are different

00:11:36.440 and biological attributes of males

00:11:38.240 that are different than attributes of females. 1.00

00:11:41.680 And to have separate,

00:11:42.740 look, we have separate categories

00:11:44.020 within the gym as well.

00:11:46.460 We don't have a featherweight

00:11:48.120 fighting a heavyweight in boxing.

00:11:49.620 We have categories.

00:11:51.720 And because when you have level playing fields,

00:11:55.380 the competition is better.

00:11:57.840 And you actually have the kind of competition

00:12:02.060 that forces those athletes

00:12:04.500 to achieve their very, very best.

00:12:06.260 And we have different divisions

00:12:09.620 in the NCAA.

00:12:11.700 We have Division I, Division II, Division III.

00:12:14.200 You know, this segregation by various categories,

00:12:17.560 and of course, in swimming is a great example,

00:12:19.540 or gymnastics, great example.

00:12:20.920 You have different categories.

00:12:22.700 And you may excel in one category

00:12:24.580 versus another.

00:12:26.160 We're trying to preserve the integrity

00:12:27.820 of that categorization.

00:12:29.300 That's not discriminatory.

00:12:30.740 That's about fair competition,

00:12:34.120 which is encouraging greater participation.

00:12:39.020 Absolutely.

00:12:39.800 You're exactly right.

00:12:41.280 We don't have the Paralympics

00:12:44.260 because we're discriminating against people

00:12:46.460 who are able-bodied.

00:12:48.660 That's not what the Paralympics is doing

00:12:51.000 by having that category.

00:12:52.840 It's giving these people

00:12:53.940 a fair opportunity to compete.

00:12:56.040 Same thing in boxing.

00:12:58.400 We're not fat-shaming the people

00:13:00.280 who are heavyweights

00:13:01.260 because they're heavier

00:13:02.860 compared to, you know,

00:13:05.020 the featherweights.

00:13:05.900 We have those distinctions

00:13:07.280 in place for a reason,

00:13:08.560 and so I couldn't agree more.

00:13:10.520 But similarly to President Biden's promise

00:13:13.840 of vetoing this bill

00:13:15.220 if it were to make it to his desk,

00:13:17.020 we saw this.

00:13:18.320 In Kentucky, Andy Beshear vetoed this.

00:13:21.100 He joined a long list

00:13:21.980 of Democratic governors

00:13:22.860 in Republican states

00:13:24.900 like Roy Cooper in North Carolina,

00:13:27.840 Laura Kelly in Kansas,

00:13:30.060 who also vetoed this bill.

00:13:32.800 Fortunately, we were able

00:13:34.060 to override this veto

00:13:35.580 with a majority vote.

00:13:38.160 But do you think

00:13:38.980 Governor Beshear's veto

00:13:40.880 represents how

00:13:42.140 Kentuckians,

00:13:43.700 Kentucky families,

00:13:45.420 feel?

00:13:46.200 No.

00:13:47.040 No, it's not.

00:13:47.940 It shows the extremism.

00:13:49.400 You asked about the partisan nature

00:13:50.860 of the vote

00:13:51.400 on Congressman Stubbe's bill

00:13:53.900 that I co-sponsored,

00:13:55.060 the Protection of Women and Girls

00:13:56.140 in Sports Act of 2023.

00:13:58.200 And then you give this example

00:13:59.420 of a governor

00:14:00.500 of a conservative state,

00:14:03.300 Kentucky,

00:14:03.660 that vetoes a very

00:14:05.140 common sense bill

00:14:06.420 to protect women and girls

00:14:07.820 in sports,

00:14:10.140 in elementary,

00:14:11.580 middle,

00:14:12.160 and in high school sports

00:14:14.520 in Kentucky.

00:14:15.680 And he vetoes that bill.

00:14:16.600 That's a real radical position

00:14:18.300 to take

00:14:18.900 in contrast

00:14:20.160 with the values

00:14:21.020 of the people of Kentucky.

00:14:22.140 I think

00:14:22.620 this extreme

00:14:24.160 transgender

00:14:25.760 gender identity

00:14:28.160 dysfunction

00:14:29.360 debate

00:14:31.000 has crept

00:14:32.280 into the

00:14:33.460 progressive movement

00:14:34.640 and has infected

00:14:35.560 the entire Democratic Party.

00:14:37.060 I know for a fact

00:14:38.000 common sense Democrats,

00:14:39.740 certainly in Kentucky,

00:14:40.720 but also here

00:14:41.560 in the Congress

00:14:42.260 who are,

00:14:43.700 you know,

00:14:44.540 advocates for homosexual rights,

00:14:46.260 for example,

00:14:47.380 or the LGBT community

00:14:48.900 who think

00:14:49.380 they've gone too far here.

00:14:51.980 And,

00:14:52.460 you know,

00:14:52.940 I applaud

00:14:54.260 Martina Navratilova,

00:14:55.860 for example,

00:14:56.400 an open lesbian

00:14:57.280 tennis star

00:14:58.580 in her sport

00:15:00.260 who has actually

00:15:00.960 spoken out

00:15:01.680 against

00:15:02.180 some of this

00:15:03.360 transgender

00:15:04.140 athlete participation

00:15:05.900 in sports

00:15:07.500 against

00:15:08.040 the,

00:15:09.300 you know,

00:15:10.680 birth assigned gender.

00:15:12.340 It's just,

00:15:12.960 it's just not right.

00:15:13.760 And I mean,

00:15:14.160 the examples are really,

00:15:15.680 I mean,

00:15:16.160 it's,

00:15:16.440 these are not,

00:15:17.580 these are no longer

00:15:18.440 aberrational cases.

00:15:19.600 You've got,

00:15:20.380 you know,

00:15:20.600 a,

00:15:20.960 there's a case

00:15:21.600 of a 50-year-old

00:15:22.580 six-foot-six-inch man

00:15:24.100 who played on a college

00:15:25.520 men's team

00:15:26.080 30 years prior

00:15:26.900 who played on a

00:15:27.600 women's junior

00:15:28.640 college basketball team.

00:15:30.160 You've got a male athlete

00:15:31.400 who formerly played

00:15:32.220 on a Division III

00:15:33.140 women's soccer team

00:15:33.960 who now plays

00:15:34.500 for a Team USA

00:15:35.360 women's beach handball.

00:15:36.900 You've got a male 1.00

00:15:38.580 who competed

00:15:39.100 in men's bodybuilding

00:15:40.240 in the past

00:15:41.120 who is now competing

00:15:42.080 as a woman.

00:15:43.540 In volleyball,

00:15:44.200 my daughter's sport

00:15:45.420 of choice,

00:15:46.720 there's a,

00:15:47.360 there's an example

00:15:48.400 of a male athlete

00:15:50.140 who competed

00:15:50.700 on an NCAA

00:15:51.580 Division III

00:15:52.400 women's volleyball team

00:15:53.580 and male athletes

00:15:54.380 have also competed

00:15:55.140 on women's professional teams

00:15:56.380 in the U.S.

00:15:56.920 and Brazil.

00:15:58.700 Women's weightlifter. 0.95

00:16:00.100 You've got a weightlifter

00:16:00.900 qualified for

00:16:01.680 and competed

00:16:02.160 in the women's category

00:16:03.280 at the 2020

00:16:05.000 Tokyo Olympics

00:16:05.800 despite being male.

00:16:07.500 And a male has competed

00:16:08.440 in women's professional

00:16:09.360 wrestling.

00:16:10.360 You can't ignore this.

00:16:11.540 You can't make this stuff up.

00:16:12.600 This is,

00:16:13.700 it's disturbing,

00:16:15.300 it's alarming,

00:16:16.040 and it's happening.

00:16:18.180 And that's why

00:16:18.820 your voice means so much.

00:16:21.020 That's why Greg Stubbe,

00:16:22.520 his leadership

00:16:23.080 is so valuable.

00:16:24.540 And I think,

00:16:25.540 look,

00:16:26.500 if,

00:16:27.340 you know,

00:16:27.820 without weighing in

00:16:28.640 on all of the aspects

00:16:30.020 of gender dysphoria

00:16:30.960 and wherever you stand

00:16:32.480 on some of the biological

00:16:33.520 issues related to that,

00:16:36.260 if my Democratic colleagues

00:16:38.620 really want to advocate

00:16:40.000 for transgender people

00:16:41.420 competing in sports,

00:16:42.620 have a separate category

00:16:43.800 for that.

00:16:45.080 You know,

00:16:45.320 we have categories.

00:16:47.060 And let there be

00:16:48.940 a transgender category.

00:16:50.660 But certainly,

00:16:52.020 do not allow

00:16:53.060 biological men

00:16:54.680 to compete

00:16:55.220 against girls. 0.53

00:16:55.980 That is not right.

00:16:58.520 Absolutely.

00:16:59.560 And those examples

00:17:00.220 you mentioned,

00:17:01.300 of course,

00:17:01.840 notice they're only

00:17:02.500 going one way.

00:17:04.480 We know that women 1.00

00:17:05.940 competing in sports

00:17:07.460 were a lot

00:17:08.060 and could never be able

00:17:09.220 to compete

00:17:09.780 at the same level

00:17:10.900 against the men.

00:17:12.540 We saw it in swimming

00:17:13.480 at the same meet

00:17:14.720 where we had Leah Thomas,

00:17:16.020 who's a male,

00:17:16.680 identifying as a woman.

00:17:17.740 We had another trans athlete

00:17:18.940 who was a woman, 1.00

00:17:20.260 a female, 0.97

00:17:21.540 identify as a man.

00:17:24.720 Finished top five

00:17:25.960 in the country

00:17:26.500 as a female,

00:17:27.260 competing with the women, 0.55

00:17:28.400 but now it is competing

00:17:29.280 with the men.

00:17:30.540 Finishes dead last

00:17:31.540 every single time.

00:17:32.800 It's not even comparable.

00:17:35.440 Which is,

00:17:36.560 it's very telling.

00:17:38.440 But Kentucky

00:17:39.720 and Andy Beshear,

00:17:42.080 there's a governor race,

00:17:43.600 which will be concluded

00:17:45.800 this in November.

00:17:47.360 And there will be

00:17:47.780 a lot of attention

00:17:48.400 around this.

00:17:49.040 And so I'm super excited

00:17:50.380 to see how this turns out.

00:17:53.320 What do you think?

00:17:54.380 Do you,

00:17:55.200 how can the lives

00:17:56.780 of Kentucky families

00:17:58.080 outside of even just

00:17:59.060 the women's sports issue?

00:18:00.500 What are issues

00:18:01.220 that matter to

00:18:02.100 Kentucky families? 0.50

00:18:03.820 And what can be done

00:18:05.220 to help create a solution

00:18:07.340 to these problems?

00:18:09.100 Well,

00:18:09.220 they want their kids 0.98

00:18:09.900 to be healthy.

00:18:11.060 I mean,

00:18:11.200 I think about my own situation

00:18:12.420 with my own kids.

00:18:13.200 They want to be healthy,

00:18:14.160 number one,

00:18:14.640 happy and prosperous.

00:18:17.000 What we want our kids,

00:18:18.080 especially if they're teenagers,

00:18:19.100 to stay out of trouble,

00:18:19.920 to do things

00:18:20.580 that are constructive,

00:18:21.920 you know,

00:18:22.560 after school

00:18:23.100 in their extracurricular life

00:18:24.420 that gives them pride,

00:18:26.820 that gives them

00:18:27.440 self-confidence.

00:18:28.540 We want our young girls

00:18:29.680 to have self-confidence,

00:18:31.280 to be able to have,

00:18:33.200 you know,

00:18:33.760 the assurance

00:18:34.680 of their own,

00:18:36.300 you know,

00:18:36.820 of their own skills,

00:18:39.240 talents,

00:18:39.780 abilities,

00:18:40.880 of their persistence,

00:18:42.580 to have that confidence

00:18:45.420 that they deserve.

00:18:47.600 And anything

00:18:48.640 that threatens that,

00:18:50.120 in my opinion,

00:18:51.420 is very destructive

00:18:52.840 to, you know,

00:18:53.940 adolescent kids

00:18:54.900 who are trying

00:18:55.820 to find their way

00:18:56.520 in the world.

00:18:57.840 And so this,

00:18:59.200 I think,

00:18:59.480 really matters to parents.

00:19:01.240 I think parents,

00:19:02.020 and by the way,

00:19:03.160 I think it does

00:19:03.940 cut across party lines.

00:19:06.780 You know,

00:19:07.560 I'm saying things

00:19:08.580 about Democrat parents

00:19:10.080 as well as Republican parents,

00:19:11.400 and I think,

00:19:11.940 I think those parents

00:19:13.160 who identify themselves

00:19:14.840 as Democrats

00:19:15.480 are starting to recognize

00:19:17.360 how off the wall

00:19:18.580 their party has become

00:19:20.720 in terms of just

00:19:21.760 how radical.

00:19:22.920 I can tell you

00:19:24.220 that Democrat moms 1.00

00:19:26.260 and dads

00:19:26.880 of a teenage daughter

00:19:29.300 does not want

00:19:30.760 a biological male

00:19:32.520 in the locker room

00:19:33.540 with them

00:19:34.580 or in the bathroom

00:19:35.620 with them,

00:19:36.700 you know,

00:19:37.060 at age 16.

00:19:39.360 And, you know,

00:19:39.920 I can't imagine

00:19:40.860 that your party

00:19:42.320 affiliation would

00:19:43.580 change that.

00:19:47.320 I mean,

00:19:47.500 it is just basic

00:19:48.380 common sense

00:19:49.100 and it's about

00:19:49.740 protecting our kids.

00:19:52.800 Absolutely.

00:19:54.220 At the state level,

00:19:55.360 we've been working

00:19:56.040 on a bill

00:19:56.860 called the Women's

00:19:57.580 Bill of Rights.

00:19:59.180 What this is,

00:19:59.960 crazily enough,

00:20:00.680 it's a piece

00:20:02.020 of legislation

00:20:02.700 that defines

00:20:03.440 a sex-based term

00:20:04.420 such as woman,

00:20:06.080 which applies

00:20:07.160 a lot broader

00:20:08.160 than just women's courts,

00:20:09.520 you know,

00:20:09.720 women's prisons, 0.98

00:20:11.020 domestic violence shelters,

00:20:12.040 anywhere in statute.

00:20:13.320 where the term

00:20:14.500 woman is used,

00:20:15.740 that word would be codified

00:20:16.780 and so it's been

00:20:17.280 passed in four states

00:20:18.320 but this piece

00:20:19.780 of legislation

00:20:20.380 is being introduced

00:20:21.800 in the federal level

00:20:23.340 and Representative

00:20:24.460 Parshberger

00:20:25.120 and Representative

00:20:25.760 Lesko

00:20:26.300 are taking on

00:20:27.480 this bill.

00:20:29.380 Is this something

00:20:30.540 you think

00:20:31.100 you would support

00:20:32.240 again?

00:20:33.460 Absolutely.

00:20:34.780 Defining it

00:20:35.760 a little.

00:20:37.080 Absolutely.

00:20:38.020 And Diana

00:20:38.800 is a great friend

00:20:39.960 and who is

00:20:41.180 the other

00:20:41.580 co-sponsor

00:20:42.160 of that,

00:20:42.740 Riley?

00:20:43.520 Representative

00:20:43.960 Lesko.

00:20:45.280 Oh yeah,

00:20:45.780 Debbie.

00:20:46.460 So,

00:20:46.780 I mean,

00:20:47.020 these are great

00:20:47.640 ladies who are 1.00

00:20:48.680 doing great work

00:20:50.220 and they're friends

00:20:51.040 of mine

00:20:51.380 and I applaud them

00:20:52.420 for their work

00:20:53.020 on this

00:20:53.420 and certainly

00:20:53.920 I will support

00:20:54.720 them in this cause.

00:20:55.900 It's sad almost

00:20:57.320 that we have

00:20:57.940 to do this.

00:20:58.740 It's sad that

00:20:59.420 we've lost

00:21:00.560 our way as a country

00:21:01.340 and we've lost

00:21:01.900 common sense

00:21:02.520 because of extreme

00:21:03.680 radical,

00:21:05.120 woke,

00:21:05.900 political correctness

00:21:07.000 where people

00:21:08.520 feel so compelled

00:21:09.620 to demonstrate

00:21:11.480 that their

00:21:13.640 inclusive

00:21:15.400 sensitivity

00:21:16.560 that they're

00:21:17.900 actually hurting

00:21:18.440 people.

00:21:19.340 That's how

00:21:20.080 extreme they've

00:21:20.860 become

00:21:21.260 is their

00:21:23.020 obsession

00:21:24.220 with showing

00:21:25.680 sensitivity

00:21:26.820 or inclusiveness

00:21:27.960 actually becomes

00:21:28.880 very exclusionary

00:21:30.160 and it actually

00:21:32.220 becomes very

00:21:32.660 discriminatory

00:21:33.500 because they're

00:21:35.160 actually pushing

00:21:36.220 an agenda

00:21:36.700 that discriminates

00:21:37.720 against women. 0.76

00:21:39.300 You know,

00:21:40.560 where did the

00:21:41.220 Democratic Party

00:21:41.920 go?

00:21:42.900 You know,

00:21:43.060 where did the

00:21:43.920 progressives,

00:21:44.980 you know,

00:21:45.260 they abandoned

00:21:46.060 women in this? 1.00

00:21:48.460 So,

00:21:49.000 you know,

00:21:49.380 I'd really applaud

00:21:50.220 Debbie and Diana

00:21:51.540 for their leadership

00:21:52.440 on this and I will

00:21:53.240 certainly support

00:21:53.940 their resolution.

00:21:55.580 Well,

00:21:55.740 that sounds

00:21:56.100 wonderful.

00:21:57.160 You've been a

00:21:57.860 champion for

00:21:58.540 Kentucky families

00:21:59.500 and of course

00:22:00.280 families across

00:22:01.080 the nation

00:22:02.160 and you have

00:22:03.460 two daughters

00:22:04.200 yourself.

00:22:05.960 Are you worried

00:22:07.000 for their future,

00:22:09.240 for the country's

00:22:10.160 future,

00:22:10.620 what this looks

00:22:11.300 like,

00:22:11.640 you know,

00:22:11.880 in five,

00:22:12.480 ten years down

00:22:13.120 the road?

00:22:14.620 Well,

00:22:14.760 I'm an optimist

00:22:15.480 and of course

00:22:15.960 we're all concerned

00:22:16.840 about this.

00:22:17.400 That's why we're

00:22:17.860 talking about it

00:22:18.600 on your podcast

00:22:19.440 and why you've

00:22:20.720 stepped in

00:22:21.440 in a courageous

00:22:22.360 way,

00:22:23.120 in a bold way

00:22:23.880 to speak the truth

00:22:25.460 and to stand

00:22:26.380 up and,

00:22:27.060 you know,

00:22:27.560 take the arrows.

00:22:28.260 You've taken the

00:22:28.880 arrows and so

00:22:30.240 that's why I'm

00:22:30.920 optimistic,

00:22:31.620 Riley,

00:22:32.440 because of people

00:22:33.280 like you,

00:22:34.420 because of people

00:22:35.120 like you who are

00:22:35.780 willing to face

00:22:36.760 all of that

00:22:38.180 hateful blowback 0.96

00:22:40.560 but you're doing

00:22:41.600 the right thing.

00:22:42.940 You're saying

00:22:43.560 the right thing

00:22:44.420 and there are

00:22:45.080 millions of

00:22:46.560 Americans who

00:22:47.540 feel silenced

00:22:48.580 because of our

00:22:49.420 politically correct

00:22:50.320 culture and

00:22:51.820 because of

00:22:52.200 cancel culture

00:22:52.960 who don't feel

00:22:54.040 liberated to say

00:22:55.500 exactly what

00:22:56.400 you are saying.

00:22:57.940 So why am I

00:22:58.660 optimistic?

00:22:59.380 Because of people

00:23:00.200 like you who

00:23:01.500 are representing

00:23:02.180 millions of

00:23:03.120 voices who have

00:23:03.740 been silenced

00:23:04.500 through woke

00:23:05.500 cancel culture.

00:23:07.780 Well, you're

00:23:08.500 right in saying

00:23:09.220 that it's

00:23:09.780 liberating because

00:23:10.600 it is.

00:23:11.120 To say the truth,

00:23:11.860 it feels like a

00:23:12.440 weight is off

00:23:12.880 your shoulders.

00:23:14.340 I know you

00:23:15.080 probably have to

00:23:15.880 go.

00:23:16.440 I'm sure there's

00:23:17.040 some votes going

00:23:17.760 on somewhere.

00:23:18.520 as we wrap

00:23:20.380 up, what's

00:23:20.900 it going to

00:23:21.340 take to

00:23:22.240 restore, again,

00:23:24.100 America?

00:23:25.240 Looking at the

00:23:26.100 broader picture

00:23:26.960 outside of just

00:23:28.380 women's sports,

00:23:29.060 what's it going

00:23:29.380 to take to

00:23:29.820 restore America?

00:23:31.280 Well, I think

00:23:31.680 we need to hold

00:23:32.620 our leaders

00:23:33.500 accountable.

00:23:34.520 When they veto

00:23:35.200 common sense

00:23:35.860 bills, when they

00:23:36.820 cast a vote

00:23:38.260 against protecting

00:23:39.760 girls, then we

00:23:41.500 need to hold

00:23:41.960 them accountable

00:23:42.480 and we need to

00:23:43.160 run elections

00:23:43.940 based on that.

00:23:45.480 And let the

00:23:46.280 American people

00:23:46.960 decide, both

00:23:48.100 Republicans,

00:23:48.800 Democrats,

00:23:49.360 Independents,

00:23:49.980 Moderates, you

00:23:51.060 know, who's on

00:23:51.520 your side?

00:23:52.720 Let them know

00:23:53.320 the record.

00:23:54.360 Who is on your

00:23:55.160 side?

00:23:55.600 Seriously, think

00:23:56.660 about this.

00:23:57.440 Who is on the

00:23:58.320 side of your

00:23:59.080 daughters?

00:24:00.600 Is it the people

00:24:02.280 who want to

00:24:02.800 allow biological

00:24:03.700 men in their

00:24:04.460 locker rooms at

00:24:05.180 age 15 years

00:24:06.140 old?

00:24:06.780 Are they on

00:24:07.620 your side?

00:24:08.180 Really?

00:24:08.900 No.

00:24:09.960 This is how we

00:24:10.860 achieve success

00:24:12.820 and we are on

00:24:14.020 the right side

00:24:14.780 of this issue

00:24:15.420 and we just

00:24:16.580 need to make

00:24:17.080 sure that we

00:24:17.720 hold politicians

00:24:19.040 accountable for

00:24:20.500 cowering to the

00:24:22.560 extremists on

00:24:23.620 this issue.

00:24:25.060 I love that

00:24:26.120 because what I've

00:24:28.080 seen this past

00:24:28.980 year and a half

00:24:29.980 really since I've

00:24:30.700 taken this stance

00:24:31.500 is the two things

00:24:32.420 that are missing

00:24:33.040 are responsibility

00:24:34.260 and accountability.

00:24:36.220 So I couldn't

00:24:36.640 agree more.

00:24:37.740 Representative Barr,

00:24:38.680 I appreciate you.

00:24:40.100 I appreciate the

00:24:40.820 work you do, the

00:24:41.580 stances you take,

00:24:42.420 and how you stand

00:24:43.300 with women.

00:24:43.740 So thank you for

00:24:45.380 doing those things

00:24:46.600 and I know you

00:24:47.700 got to run.

00:24:48.220 So thank you,

00:24:48.740 thank you,

00:24:49.060 thank you.

00:24:50.000 Thanks, Riley.

00:24:50.620 Keep up the great

00:24:51.220 work.

00:24:51.840 Go Big Blue.

00:24:53.060 Absolutely go Big

00:24:54.180 Blue.

00:24:56.320 Representative Barr

00:24:57.220 laid it all out in a

00:24:58.580 way that perfectly

00:24:59.580 highlights why this

00:25:00.840 issue and so many

00:25:02.420 other issues that

00:25:03.300 we're facing as a

00:25:04.080 nation are common

00:25:05.200 sense issues.

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Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - October 11, 2023

When the Playing Field Gets a Little Too 'Gender-Bending＂ with Rep. Andy Barr

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