Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - Why California Wants To BAN Nick Shirley ｜ The Riley Gaines Show

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00:00:20.040 What's the best way to put this?

00:00:22.320 If investigating crimes is illegal,

00:00:26.180 then we are being governed by criminals.

00:00:28.220 criminals that you and I are paying the salaries of, mind you. I'm so excited for today's

00:00:32.740 conversation with Nick Shirley. He has been on the show before. Actually, he was the inaugural

00:00:36.640 guest of the Riley Gaines show. So he's a friend of the show. He, of course, focused a lot on

00:00:42.500 Minnesota and what was happening there, uncovering billions of dollars in fraud, waste, abuse,

00:00:47.080 specifically in Minnesota daycares, which ultimately resulted in the untimely resignation

00:00:51.660 of Tim Walls from his gubernatorial campaign. I mean, effectively really ending his political

00:00:56.200 career, he has now shifted his attention to California, focusing on voter ID fraud, focusing

00:01:01.320 on fraud in hospice centers. Well, how do you think Gavin Newsom took this? Smiling ear to ear?

00:01:08.220 He should be, right? Beaming with the idea of cracking down on fraud. Wasted taxpayer dollars

00:01:13.100 in his state? No, that's not at all. What Gavin Newsom, the attorney general, or the state

00:01:17.380 legislature is doing? No, instead, they introduced the Stop Nick Shirley Act. Really think about that

00:01:23.140 for a second. Instead of going after the fraudsters, California is going after the people

00:01:27.400 exposing the fraud. This bill that they've introduced, it's AB 2624. What this will do,

00:01:32.640 it will criminalize journalists with misdemeanors, meaning $10,000 fines could result in imprisonment,

00:01:38.000 of course, content being taken down, which is a total violation of the First Amendment, by the

00:01:42.820 way. It lets immigrant-based NGOs funding be entirely confidential. It takes away freedoms

00:01:47.540 of the press from journalists, of course, and it protects any immigration support services.

00:01:52.420 information from being public. Think healthcare, legal services, et cetera. We have a lot to unpack.

00:01:58.920 We are talking to the investigative journalist of all investigated journalists, Nick Shirley.

00:02:04.340 Well, Nick, thanks for joining the Riley Gaines Show. Again, this is your third time. You were

00:02:08.800 the inaugural guest, so I'm super excited you're back. Give us like a brief synopsis of what the

00:02:14.140 Nick Shirley Act is and why do people want to so desperately shut you down?

00:02:20.020 So the Stop Nick Shirley Act, the official title is AB 2624, and what this will do is it will make it criminal to search and investigate fraud, specifically in immigrant service providers.

00:02:35.480 For instance, if there is a company that is giving legal services to an illegal migrant or giving translation services or the big one, healthcare, to an illegal migrant, that information on that business, if they receive taxpayer dollars, that information will then become confidential.

00:02:57.120 and if you were to go and make a video out front saying how much money this location got

00:03:02.680 and they said that your visit was unwelcoming, they could then charge you for harassment

00:03:07.680 and you could then be charged with $4,000 for a civil fine or $10,000 for a criminal

00:03:13.380 fine and $50,000 for a felony.

00:03:16.880 And they're trying to hide our tax dollars that they are giving to illegal migrants for

00:03:22.220 with your immigrant support providers and make it a crime to expose any fraud that's taking place.

00:03:30.740 Well, it seems not only even that, but it would also result in your content being taken down.

00:03:36.760 That seems like to me a total violation of your First Amendment rights, your free speech,

00:03:43.600 also freedom of press. So this ultimately in the position that you're in with the occupation that

00:03:49.780 you have. Obviously, the content that you put up, it's consequential in its outcome, but also it's

00:03:54.620 a way for you to monetize. It's a job for you. And so talk about the free speech implications

00:03:59.700 this bill has. Yeah, think about it. So they're literally saying you cannot film in public space

00:04:05.880 in public space. And if we give you a written letter, you have to take down your content,

00:04:12.480 even if you are in public space. So imagine I'm in a hospice in a parking lot. That's a public

00:04:17.520 parking lot and I film and I document that there's nobody at these hospices, well, if somebody comes

00:04:24.200 and gives me a piece of paper that says, hey, you don't have permission to do this, they would then

00:04:28.460 be able to force your content to be taken down unless you want to receive a $4,000 fine.

00:04:34.780 Feels very authoritarian, which we see in the news cycle all the time, these no Kings Day

00:04:42.400 protesters where are they when it comes to a bill like this do you find hypocrisy in the general

00:04:49.320 public's response especially those who are on the very radical fringe side of things do you notice

00:04:54.380 the hypocrisy there oh 100 and like the what i'm doing is not like a right or left issue i'm

00:05:01.260 exposing fraud that's taking place and now they're trying to censor me for exposing fraud and they're

00:05:06.820 trying to not just censor me the bill says people it doesn't say journalist so that just means every

00:05:12.060 single person here in America or every single person in California, if they were to expose it,

00:05:16.960 they would then be censored. They'd potentially have to face a $4,000 civil fine. They'd have to

00:05:23.160 have their video taken down, which is a direct violation of your freedom of speech and your

00:05:27.640 freedom of press. So where are the people? Why aren't there other people saying anything? Where

00:05:33.820 is CBS News? They also covered the hospices. Do they not know that this would also make their

00:05:38.480 videos illegal to make? Where's all the protesters that are yelling fascist, this fascist, that,

00:05:43.620 when they are actually trying to suppress our speech by trying to pass a bill that it's a

00:05:47.780 direct attack on our First Amendment? Now, you were in California recently, and you got to

00:05:53.240 directly confront state legislatures. It was amazing. You put up like a 10-minute clip of

00:05:59.440 even co-authors, co-sponsors of the bill who couldn't answer basic questions. Can you kind

00:06:04.880 of highlight some of the things that you saw from people who, again, signed off on and attempted to

00:06:10.460 pass. Actually, I would love to hear where this bill is currently. Attempted to pass the Stop

00:06:14.700 Nick Shirley Act. So all these co-authors, the author, the main author, Mia Bonta, the wife of

00:06:21.920 the AG, she decided not to show up to work that day. So she didn't even go to the state capitol

00:06:26.180 that day when they were talking about her bill. Again, people we pay the salaries of. 0.92

00:06:31.020 Exactly.

00:06:31.820 So Mia Bonta, a man brought up a motion to then stop the bill.

00:06:37.220 They then voted to continue with that bill.

00:06:40.620 And so when all of the co-authors were leaving to go to their office,

00:06:43.920 I said, well, I'm going to ask these guys about this bill.

00:06:46.380 Do they not know that this is a direct violation of the First Amendment?

00:06:50.160 Do they not know that this will make it criminal to expose fraud?

00:06:53.420 And why are we not pushing for more transparency when we're seeing all this fraud

00:06:56.720 and you guys are pushing for less?

00:06:58.620 So I just wanted to ask them.

00:06:59.680 and the response I was shocked at first and I said when I asked the first lady and she's like

00:07:05.420 you're just asking random questions and she's literally a co-author of this bill and then the

00:07:11.620 next lady says that it's not a direct violation of the first amendment then I tell her like well

00:07:17.940 it would make it criminal to film in public space and she just shuts down the next person said that

00:07:24.140 he didn't even know that he was a co-author of the bill the other lady said she didn't know who i was 0.99

00:07:30.980 when this bill was created because of me other lady wouldn't give me any time of day another man 0.99

00:07:38.840 got on a phone call and would not would not stop his phone call to just answer some questions and 1.00

00:07:45.540 they all just ran right inside of their offices without answering any questions a lot of them

00:07:50.700 even said, well, you can talk to my staff. These people didn't even know what was on the bill.

00:07:56.020 Some of them didn't even know that they were co-authors of this bill. So you have California

00:08:00.220 legislators who are getting dollars from Californians, and they don't even know

00:08:06.920 what they are doing. Scott Wiener had some choice words to say about you, which I've talked about

00:08:13.740 Scott Wiener on this show before. I think he has authored some of the most egregious bills

00:08:20.580 in any state legislature in the country, really just a horrible person. I won't even get into

00:08:27.660 that. What was it that he said to you again? In passing, very quickly running into the building

00:08:32.820 afterwards. He said, I'm a psycho scam artist. I wish. We'll put a picture of Scott Wiener on 0.93

00:08:38.040 screen and post. And this is the man who is calling Nick Shirley a psycho. Anyways, you did

00:08:45.320 have some Republican members who were helping you kind of navigate the state house and who some of

00:08:51.440 these authors were, how difficult would it be to be a Republican legislator in the state of

00:08:58.260 California? Are they kind of fighting like an uphill battle here? Oh, it would be so hard.

00:09:03.200 I'm trying to think of how to describe it because literally it's like you're walking up a mountain

00:09:08.280 and each time you take a step, you're getting pushed two steps down because these people,

00:09:12.800 they're the majority in California, the Democrats, but they are so radical to the point where

00:09:19.740 they cannot even have a conversation with somebody on the right. In fact, they can't

00:09:24.060 even have a conversation with a journalist who's asking them questions about the bills they're

00:09:27.260 co-authoring. And so you have other people who are in the fight trying to do the best for their

00:09:32.600 state, but it seems like every time they make a few steps, they get pushed back down. And there

00:09:38.660 There needs to become, there needs to be a point when they can actually have a conversation

00:09:43.520 and not look at each other like enemies, but until they don't open up the doors to have

00:09:49.340 those conversations, it's going to be the same thing that you saw with me on the streets

00:09:53.160 of Sacramento, just asking the people about these bills.

00:09:57.720 It's going to be the same results.

00:09:59.120 They're not going to give any feedback and there's going to be no conversation.

00:10:02.420 Now, what was the response from Gavin Newsom?

00:10:05.440 Has there been any like online discourse?

00:10:08.000 has he thanked you for your work? Actually, Newsom, he didn't have much to say. He hasn't

00:10:14.720 said much about it. All he has said is there's a photo of me that got, that was taken with one of

00:10:20.720 the assemblymen who's a Republican. And they tried to clap back with a photo of me and him

00:10:27.880 as a dumber and dumber. And it's just so funny to me that Gavin Newsom's press office literally 0.99

00:10:34.780 just wants to try to make me look as bad as possible but every single time they do it they

00:10:41.040 end up being ratioed by like 10 times so i don't understand what's their point i don't know if they

00:10:46.380 can see that this isn't a that this is just a big issue that their faces uh their that their state

00:10:51.320 is facing no you have been like the king of ratios dating back to our old friend tim walds who you

00:10:57.920 like effectively ended the political career of uh you have been like the king of ratios we'll put a

00:11:04.260 picture on screen of the post that you're talking about from Gavin Newsom. You also mentioned the

00:11:09.820 attorney general, which, of course, each state's AG is the state's top law enforcement officer.

00:11:16.300 Now, after you went into these hospice centers and uncovered, again, all of the fraud, all of

00:11:20.780 the waste, all of the abuse, we saw some action from the AG's office. Can you kind of describe

00:11:25.560 what that looked like? And again, can you explain the relationship between the attorney general

00:11:29.760 and his wife, who was an author of this bill.

00:11:33.420 I think that's the craziest part of this whole entire bill

00:11:36.000 is that the AG, like you said,

00:11:38.940 he's the head of prosecuting crime

00:11:41.180 inside of the state of California.

00:11:43.240 So when I made this hospice video,

00:11:45.720 everyone was saying that, oh, this isn't real, this isn't real.

00:11:48.740 And then all of a sudden they start saying,

00:11:50.740 oh my gosh, we have been on the case for years.

00:11:55.240 We've been on the case for years, Nick.

00:11:57.180 and then they actually made a press release and they said we've been on this in way before certain

00:12:02.920 people started coming to our state referring to me and they were very excited to announce that they

00:12:08.840 had stopped over 250 million dollars which is amazing like we shall celebrate that

00:12:13.760 but then just a few days later the ag's wife creates this bill that would make it illegal

00:12:20.680 to expose fraud so you have the ag who's over who's the attorney general and then you have his 0.66

00:12:28.000 wife who's an assembly woman trying to make it illegal to get the information on those exact

00:12:34.280 same locations and these immigrant support providers so you have a total conflict of 0.99

00:12:40.960 interest there like how can one be the ag wanting to take down crime and then his wife wants to 0.89

00:12:48.180 protect them the fraudsters yeah of course the ag has been horrendous across the board the culture

00:12:55.560 issues obviously uh as as shown with this issue um so no surprise there i think i saw where there

00:13:03.560 had been he had made 21 arrests which that's the tip of the iceberg isn't it oh there's so many

00:13:10.540 more that needs to take place i mean just in la alone there's over 1500 hospices they've shut down

00:13:16.980 500 of them and not a single one of them has came back saying, hey, let us open our doors.

00:13:23.360 That just shows that all of them are fraudulent. And so there's 21 arrests. There should be about

00:13:29.300 450 more. Yeah. What do you make of some of the name calling? Because I think that that's pretty

00:13:37.900 much all of the criticism I see online of you. It's never anything of substance. It's never

00:13:43.100 anything that would disqualify the work that you're doing. It's merely name calling, whether

00:13:48.960 that's Gavin Newsom. Of course, we mentioned Scott Wiener's comments. Do you take that almost as like

00:13:53.860 a compliment? I would imagine it's hard not to let that get to you when you're doing the pivotal

00:13:59.380 and consequential work that you're doing. I think it's kind of funny. If that's the worst they can

00:14:04.640 get me on, go for it. I mean, that's literally like what little kids do at recess. It is so true.

00:14:11.460 it is so like elementary. It's so second grade to like call people names. And what have you found

00:14:17.240 from the public? I saw in your expose, you got to talk to a few people who weren't assembly

00:14:23.060 members. I don't know if they were staffers or if they were just everyday Californians who were

00:14:27.820 passing by. What's the response that you've received from your standard taxpayer in the

00:14:34.120 state of California? Oh, it was so funny. So I'm walking around the Capitol and all the people

00:14:39.280 around the Capitol are so excited to see me. I had like moms wanting me to take photos with their

00:14:43.700 kids. And they're like, who's this? Like, oh, you'll like, he's super important. He's doing a

00:14:48.720 lot for our state. And so you have all these like people that are super happy. And a lot of them

00:14:53.380 want to take photos. And then you also have the politicians inside the building who hate me who

00:14:58.340 are making who are doing the name calling who are trying to act like there is no fraud. But the

00:15:04.440 general public are so happy to see this take place and for the fraud to be exposed because everyone's

00:15:10.000 seen it for so long but a lot of people didn't feel like they could actually say something or

00:15:14.280 maybe they didn't feel like anything would happen if they were to say something about it or to try

00:15:20.020 and expose it so i think it's been awesome to see like the reaction like obviously there's some uh

00:15:25.440 some people that are upset especially the fraudsters and the cronies that gavin newsom his

00:15:30.200 troops rile up with their post and their name calling, but the general public, they see through

00:15:34.600 it all. And that's what's been awesome to see. I've noticed that too, kind of what you're

00:15:40.040 describing where there's a lot of people in private or who will direct message you or kind

00:15:45.260 of through like winks or whispers or fist bumps or behind closed doors. Thank you for your work.

00:15:49.600 But publicly, they're really scared to say it. Why do you think that is? Do you think these

00:15:55.600 people are fearful of maybe their jobs or even their safety and do you think we're witnessing

00:16:01.920 a cultural shift with a new administration in the Oval Office? I think it's the same reason why

00:16:08.820 they let fraud take place in Minnesota with the Somalian population because they're too afraid of 1.00

00:16:13.920 being called Islamophobic or they're too being too afraid of being called a racist or being called 0.98

00:16:19.920 far right. That's all the things that the governor himself actually even called me.

00:16:25.120 And so they're afraid of that pushback. But now people can see that, no, this isn't just a

00:16:30.040 issue that took place in Minnesota. This is a issue all across the United States.

00:16:35.120 And when we're all working super hard to pay our taxes and these fraudsters are

00:16:39.440 literally robbing us of our hard days of work, everyone is upset.

00:16:44.980 Yeah, which in California, gosh, if you're in the highest tax bracket, you're essentially paying upwards of 60% of your paycheck into the state and the federal government.

00:16:57.920 So, I mean, if you equate that to months out of a year that you're essentially working for free, I mean, that's like through July or August that it's free work when you're talking, I guess, when you're thinking about it from that perspective.

00:17:08.860 and how telling is it to be labeled far right for merely wanting to expose fraud and keep that money

00:17:16.600 in our pockets, whether you're Democrat or Republican, as you said. One thing that I'm

00:17:22.220 curious about with you, and I know we've talked about this last time, but the security threats

00:17:26.660 that you face, every single video that you post, of course, you become more of a household name.

00:17:31.800 Your face is easily recognizable now for better or for worse, I guess. What has security looked

00:17:37.860 like for you and have you had any encounters where you have been fearful for your safety

00:17:42.780 just for example to film the hospice video that video cost fifteen thousand dollars of security

00:17:50.240 because you have to have someone to drive and then you have to have people out there to walk

00:17:56.060 around with you so it's not cheap and every single day when i go out and film or when i go out to a

00:18:01.380 city um i've been advised that i need to have security it's not the funnest thing to have to

00:18:06.280 walk around with security um but i do think it is probably necessary and uh like somebody showed up

00:18:12.520 my house the other day that was really weird uh i did not like that i thought that was very strange

00:18:18.000 then uh you always do have people coming up to your street and 99 of the time it's positive

00:18:24.200 interactions then you do get a few people that are that do get upset because uh maybe they're

00:18:29.600 involved in the fraud and it's getting stopped but just a small percentage here in the united

00:18:34.140 States is still about 3 million people. Is there a part of you that kind of wishes you could go

00:18:40.380 back to being a little more anonymous? No, because I think what I've done has been super important

00:18:48.600 for the country. And so I feel like that'd be very selfish of me to do it, to do that. But

00:18:54.100 life's definitely a little bit different now, but I wouldn't change it. What about like your

00:18:59.920 relationships and like you don't have to answer but even like dating life like it would be hard

00:19:04.880 to find someone who can kind of accept the position that you're in and be very understanding

00:19:10.480 of the pressure and the opportunities that you've had to continue making impact like is it harder to

00:19:16.940 even like date now a little bit it's kind of strange actually because i mean it's not like

00:19:24.140 it's weird to like if i'm in a big city to go on a date with someone and then you have to bring like

00:19:28.840 a security guard. I think that's very strange. I don't like that at all. So I tend not to do it

00:19:35.220 that often, but it is a bit weird. And I guess we'll see what happens. That's so funny. Do you

00:19:43.120 think the system that we are currently operating under, do you think it's fixable or do you think

00:19:49.660 it's kind of just managing chaos? And to that point, you focus a lot of time on deeply blue

00:19:55.740 states like minnesota and california what about more purpley states or even even red states right

00:20:02.700 i'm not going to act like conservative states with conservative leadership isn't immune to

00:20:06.400 the fraud that's going on too do you think this is nationwide and is it fixable it is nationwide

00:20:13.360 and the thing with these states like minnesota and california is the fraud is so massive

00:20:18.640 one could spend an entire lifetime there exposing the fraud and i would like to go to more states

00:20:25.620 However, right now in California, they're now trying to pass this bill to try and stop people from exposing the fraud.

00:20:30.920 They're basically saying, hey, we have more fraud here.

00:20:33.740 Don't expose it before we pass this bill.

00:20:35.920 So maybe I have to do everything I can do until this bill gets passed to expose it all.

00:20:41.660 And I do think changes are actually going to start happening.

00:20:44.680 I hope they go after and take down each and every single one of these fraudsters.

00:20:48.700 But just them alone cracking down on 500 hospices, not a single one of them saying,

00:20:53.480 hey we want to open back open business back up that's shutting down that problem right there

00:20:58.900 minnesota not a single one of the daycares after having to prove proof of receipts to receive their

00:21:06.120 money not a single one has even sent any money back to receive money for the children if they

00:21:12.360 had children there they'd be sending proof of receipts like instantaneously to get that money

00:21:17.080 back so i i think the bleeding is getting stopped and now it'll be going after the people who caused

00:21:23.160 the bleeding that they need to go after now. Which you bring up Minnesota. What about Ilhan

00:21:29.300 Omar? What's the latest there and her involvement in the fraud? Can we expect accountability? It's

00:21:36.140 so hard because I think especially for your everyday person who maybe doesn't understand

00:21:40.660 the legalities of it, it is such a long, lengthy process to really hold someone accountable in the

00:21:46.680 way that we want to see. What's the latest with someone like her? Well, Ilhan, she had a net worth

00:21:54.640 of $6 million to $30 million. And now it's down to, I think, $18,000 to $98,000. Wow. And now

00:22:03.240 she's blaming on an accounting error. So the accountant at the Leering Center either really

00:22:08.260 messed up or she has been committing all this fraud. She actually just got rid of one of her

00:22:14.760 LLCs for her winery that had millions of dollars. So that just vanished. That doesn't make any 0.81

00:22:21.720 sense. I actually have video that I posted in my daycare video when I exposed it for the second

00:22:28.280 time of Ilhan Omar going to the restaurant that's attached to the Leering Center. And she was good

00:22:34.160 friends with the owner of that restaurant who also was the owner of other daycares that was taking

00:22:39.600 around Mayor Frye. And so they've all known about this fraud. It's all been involved. I believe

00:22:45.500 Ilhan Omar, she knows very much about defeating our future fraud as well. And there should be

00:22:51.280 enough evidence there for whoever's in Congress, whoever's doing the investigations to go after

00:22:55.780 and take down Ilhan. And I know she married her brother as well.

00:23:02.620 Honestly, it's so...

00:23:04.160 Like there's proof that she married her brother.

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00:24:25.700 the types of people who are serving in Congress, whether it's this issue that you talk about,

00:24:30.760 look, other members knew other people involved in the space knew the mayor knew the governor

00:24:35.440 apparently knew obviously with his resignation. But it's very similar to what we've seen with

00:24:40.200 the sex scandals that have gone on to you have people like Eric Swalwell, who now has resigned,

00:24:45.300 but it was a known, it was a known thing, his behavior, his actions in Congress. And so it

00:24:52.200 takes the power of people like you platforms like x for really helping expose this and so

00:24:58.100 what have you noticed with maybe like the current landscape of media have you found i guess a better

00:25:05.380 way to phrase it is what have you found to be the most effective way to communicate is there one

00:25:09.720 platform that you find works the best and really resonates with people that maybe cable news or

00:25:15.500 mainstream media or legacy media can't really get to? I think X for sure. Like X is definitely

00:25:22.420 the best platform where real world change can take place because when you post a video,

00:25:27.820 not only does it get posted, it also then creates conversation with other accounts that have

00:25:33.620 10,000 followers, a hundred thousand followers, a million followers. It can then, that video can

00:25:39.180 then trickle. And then there's so much engagement and so much conversation that can get brought

00:25:44.180 about whether that be a comment from somebody else who makes a whole separate post on it that

00:25:48.180 then ties it back to that video and you literally have these days on x where for instance when i

00:25:53.240 exposed that this the the new stop shirley the stop nick shirley act you had over a hundred

00:26:01.280 thousand people talking about that on the internet and in two days it was then three hundred thousand

00:26:06.960 people and so imagine the public pressure that then these assembly men and assembly women face

00:26:12.080 when they see that 300,000 people are speaking against a bill

00:26:16.120 that they're trying to put out to censor the freedom of speech.

00:26:22.200 And so I do think X is the most powerful.

00:26:24.760 And then I would say YouTube, cable, and then Instagram and those other platforms.

00:26:30.880 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:32.060 Last time you were on with the Riley Gaines show,

00:26:34.940 I asked you if you had met Elon Musk.

00:26:37.020 And you said, I think you guys had communicated at that point,

00:26:39.300 but you hadn't met him in person.

00:26:40.680 but now you have, right? What was that like? Super cool. I was a bit nervous to go meet Elon,

00:26:48.180 but it was a super awesome experience and I really enjoyed our conversation. And

00:26:51.480 what's great about Elon is he has all this stuff he has to focus on. He has SpaceX,

00:26:57.660 he has Tesla, he has the Boring Company, he has Neuralink, he has X in itself, but he also cares

00:27:04.060 still very much about what's happening inside the country. And he realizes that the platform

00:27:09.120 that he's provided to everyone is the best way for information to get out and so elon does care

00:27:14.620 about election integrity he does care about fraud being stopped because he also realizes that if

00:27:20.700 the fraud doesn't stop and if we do not can stop as a wasteful spending the buying power of just

00:27:27.560 everyone goes down and it's a big problem that we all face and so i'm very thankful for elon musk

00:27:32.660 and for what he's done with x and also for him just being somebody out there who's willing to

00:27:37.720 speak up and say maybe what's not the most popular, uh, maybe what's not the most popular

00:27:43.760 thing to say at the time, but he knows it's true. Like he's a, I think a big ball said he's like a

00:27:49.580 truth maxer, which was pretty funny. Truth maxer. That's pretty good. It's like the Gen Z lingo. I

00:27:55.380 have to like ask my younger sister. I'm like, wait, what do these things mean? What does it

00:27:58.640 look looks maxing? Um, that's so funny. Um, was he is awkward. God bless him. I love him. It's

00:28:07.040 amazing to me like that we have the same amount of time in our day with everything that he

00:28:11.700 accomplishes was he as like awkward in real life as I have kind of imagined him to be in my head

00:28:18.380 no he was pretty cool he was pretty cool it was funny because I just uh I didn't know what to

00:28:23.320 expect and I had like a few things I wanted to talk to him about and within like the first two

00:28:28.160 minutes I just completely went out went out the window and we just had a conversation and it was

00:28:32.700 just like you're talking to somebody else who is interested in the same things you're interested in

00:28:36.340 uh it was very very cool and it's cool to see like how he operates and how uh how x works as well

00:28:42.520 like as far as like how the office is it is amazing and i think that's there's a real appeal

00:28:47.740 to someone like elon musk and even president trump he's he's very much the same way where

00:28:51.840 when talking to him you forget he's a billionaire you know like the reality of it there shouldn't

00:28:59.400 be a whole lot that someone like myself and elon musk or president trump have in common

00:29:04.340 but you don't feel like that when you're having that conversation with them because they really

00:29:09.160 do care. There's a level of authenticity and just realness, at least from what I have experienced.

00:29:14.460 So that's super cool to hear. Um, last thing I guess for you is what do your parents think of

00:29:22.020 all this? I've seen some posts from your mom. She looks like just the sweetest woman ever.

00:29:27.220 How is their involvement in this? I would imagine they're very supportive of you,

00:29:30.740 but it's kind of got to scare them i bet having their son doing these really big things uh with

00:29:37.840 very real threats uh they're very supportive my mom's quite the character she comes along for a

00:29:43.560 lot of this stuff as well uh so she's pretty funny and like i think we all realize that this is such

00:29:49.420 a big issue and if i've been given the platform to expose it or to speak out about it it's my

00:29:54.860 responsibility to do it and so they just find every way that they possibly can to be supportive of it

00:29:59.240 which is really awesome.

00:30:01.740 What do you hope to be remembered for from doing all of this work?

00:30:07.260 Hopefully, one, exposing the fraud,

00:30:10.160 and then also just showing to everyone

00:30:12.760 that they can actually make a difference inside this country.

00:30:15.400 I think for so long people have felt defeated

00:30:17.260 by trying to make a difference or by trying to do something,

00:30:20.800 but I think with this video I made

00:30:22.460 or with the work I've been doing over the past few years

00:30:24.940 is that you really can make a difference inside of the United States

00:30:29.460 in that the American dream is still alive.

00:30:32.340 It's a bit harder, and you have to work a lot harder for it,

00:30:35.260 but you can still accomplish it.

00:30:39.020 And I hope people realize that their voices do matter

00:30:42.360 and that they have the opportunity, and they have the same chance

00:30:45.100 as somebody just like me to actually make a difference,

00:30:48.160 whether it be inside their neighborhood or inside their city

00:30:50.520 or inside the country.

00:30:52.120 I think that's hopefully what people can take away from.

00:30:54.940 what i've been able to do so far well it's definitely one of my main takeaways is the

00:31:00.120 power of one person uh and the lie that that young people i think especially are told where

00:31:06.000 you know one person can't really have lasting impact uh you have debunked that uh and you've

00:31:12.040 opened so many people's eyes so whether it's the minnesota daycares whether it's california

00:31:17.260 medicare whether it's act blue uh all fraudulent now we found out about the southern poverty law

00:31:22.420 Center, fraudulent, fire aid, fraudulent. What's kind of next for you specifically? Do you have

00:31:29.340 any other industries that you're targeting or maybe that you know the federal government,

00:31:34.500 the Department of Justice is looking into? What's kind of the next big thing?

00:31:39.160 I have a lot of ways I can go with this. I already have some videos filmed. This one will

00:31:48.340 expose quite literally like billions of dollars um people are wanting me to go investigate ilhan

00:31:56.000 so maybe i'll have to make a trip back to minnesota i have a video coming out today of me

00:32:01.080 going and giving her uh one of these hoodies asking her if she'd become a member of the

00:32:04.440 anti-fraud taxpayer club uh but there's so much to see that there's so much fraud across the country

00:32:10.020 and i love doing these videos where i go across uh where i go to other countries as well so

00:32:16.160 hopefully i can get overseas or go to south america soon okay you guys i want to tell you

00:32:22.520 about something that i actually think is really worth your time especially if you have kids or

00:32:26.940 honestly if you just appreciate a story that makes you think a little deeper there's this new film

00:32:31.960 coming out it's called animal farm it's an animated adaptation of the classic george orwell story and

00:32:38.420 it's in theater starting may 1st my husband and i we got an early screening access it was so good

00:32:44.820 I remember reading Animal Farm back when I was a freshman in high school.

00:32:48.440 I love this.

00:32:49.340 It was animated.

00:32:50.860 This version, it really brought to life the story in a way that's engaging.

00:32:55.400 Honestly, it was kind of funny.

00:32:56.540 And of course, the storyline itself is just eye-opening.

00:32:59.880 It follows this young pig named Lucky, and you kind of get to experience everything through

00:33:04.760 his perspective.

00:33:05.880 So the hope and the shift in power and how quickly things can go off the rails when people

00:33:10.420 stop questioning what they're being told.

00:33:12.560 And I will say this, watching it reminded me how important it is not to just go along with things because it's easier, but how important it is to say what's true, to question what doesn't make sense, and to not be afraid to stand your ground.

00:33:27.220 I love this movie because it really wasn't just entertainment. Like I said, it actually leaves you thinking. It sparks conversations. It's something that you can watch with your kids, especially if they're older, so maybe middle school, high school.

00:33:39.500 and you can talk about what the theme was afterwards,

00:33:42.400 which, let's be honest, most movies,

00:33:44.320 especially kids' movies,

00:33:45.160 don't really allow for that anymore.

00:33:47.020 This film was brought to theaters by Angel Studios Guild,

00:33:49.480 so it's one of those projects

00:33:50.640 people genuinely cared enough about to make happen,

00:33:53.780 which, of course, I respect.

00:33:54.980 So if you're looking for something different,

00:33:56.920 something maybe with a little more substance,

00:33:58.820 something that you can discuss with your kids,

00:34:00.400 I would definitely recommend checking it out.

00:34:02.920 Animal Farm is in theaters on May 1st.

00:34:05.120 Tickets are available now.

00:34:05.980 you can go grab yours at angel.com slash RG and let me know what you think about it.

00:34:11.960 Are you enjoying the media side of things? Or do you feel like you've had to like really learn how

00:34:17.360 to like communicate these issues, but also sit in front of a camera? Like I think it's,

00:34:23.360 it can't really be understated. Like it's, it's hard to be able to effectively communicate when

00:34:28.460 you have lights and a camera in your face and you're on the stage and with the platform that

00:34:32.040 you have have you found yourself enjoying that side of things or is it more burdensome than just

00:34:38.180 doing the work that you're used to doing luckily this has all been very like incremental for me

00:34:43.060 like it would have been harder for me if i had just posted this video and it was my first viral

00:34:48.240 video ever i don't think people understand that i have been doing this since i was 15 years old

00:34:53.100 and for the past two years i've been making videos that receive millions of views nothing as crazy as

00:34:59.560 the most viral video of all time that receives four billion views in seven days, but I had been

00:35:04.500 doing this for a very long time. So, uh, I think that's also a part of my story was just the

00:35:10.400 consistency that took place in order for something like this to happen. It wasn't just like an

00:35:14.960 overnight thing. And so, uh, some of this stuff has been a bit of an adjustment, uh, like public

00:35:19.840 speaking, for instance, I haven't ever really done much of those. And now I'm doing more of

00:35:25.020 those, which is awesome. And it's just like getting those reps in. And sometimes you do

00:35:28.840 interviews and sometimes you're not, you don't have as much energy or you didn't get the greatest

00:35:33.660 night of sleep or you haven't been sleeping for too long. Like just for this one, I just hopped

00:35:36.880 off a flight and slept for three hours and came over here to do this. So I think that's like the

00:35:44.120 hard thing is like showing you're not tired when maybe you are tired or to always be a 100%.

00:35:49.720 Well, I think you have done a fantastic job and we're so grateful for you. I'm excited for

00:35:55.640 this Ilhan Omar video.

00:35:57.960 I can't wait to see her response

00:35:59.360 when you ask her if she wants to be a part

00:36:00.960 of the Anti-Fraud Club.

00:36:02.760 I cannot wait for that.

00:36:04.240 But we'll keep cheering you on.

00:36:05.820 How can the listeners and viewers of this

00:36:08.060 support you in the work that you're doing?

00:36:10.220 Yeah, follow me everywhere

00:36:11.420 and then actually become a member

00:36:13.100 of the Anti-Fraud Club.

00:36:14.620 It's just antifraudclub.com.

00:36:16.920 We're creating a, we have a newsletter there

00:36:19.100 and then we're also expanding that

00:36:20.980 to where eventually people,

00:36:21.740 well, actually right now,

00:36:23.140 people can send us tipped on fraud

00:36:24.800 and then we can go through and investigate those.

00:36:27.760 And it's going to become kind of like the network

00:36:30.020 where we work out of to go about

00:36:32.600 and exposing more of this fraud

00:36:33.760 so more people can focus on it as well.

00:36:36.280 So antifraudclub.com

00:36:37.880 and everything else is also available there.

00:36:40.760 Well, if Ilhan Omar does not want to be a part of it,

00:36:43.700 then I promise that means

00:36:44.820 that you do want to be a part of it.

00:36:46.480 So thank you, Nick,

00:36:47.520 for everything that you're doing for this country,

00:36:49.660 for Californians who find it hard to live there.

00:36:52.160 Living in a red state like Tennessee,

00:36:53.700 we have people who literally call themselves political refugees like they'll introduce 0.67

00:36:59.540 themselves like hey i'm so-and-so i'm from california but i'm not one of them they like

00:37:03.500 so bad for being from california yeah right it's so sad california is such a pretty state too

00:37:08.380 it is so many good things about it but then they just their politics just ruined it i mean having

00:37:13.480 little kids walk over people dying from fentanyl is just not a cool thing to have to do no and so

00:37:19.000 you have families, especially with young kids, leaving. So I think what the work that you're

00:37:24.100 doing, ultimately, you're making life better for them. And the problems that they've maybe known

00:37:28.880 existed, especially the homelessness, the crime, the poverty, the drugs, they see that on the

00:37:33.980 streets every day. But when you're on the ground exposing it to billions, not even millions,

00:37:39.500 billions of people, including getting it to the correct people who can help hold these elected

00:37:45.160 officials accountable uh it's really consequential stuff so thank you very much thank you riley

00:37:50.520 appreciate it thank you guys for watching today's episode of the riley gain show i hope you loved it

00:37:57.060 and if you did make sure you subscribe you can do that right here so you never miss an episode

00:38:00.800 we'll see you guys next week

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Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - April 24, 2026

Why California Wants To BAN Nick Shirley ｜ The Riley Gaines Show

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