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00:00:28.760 mom talk and mom donnie that's what we're talking about today we are talking with actually a dear

00:00:39.560 friend of mine her name is paula scanlan also a division one collegiate swimmer we're talking

00:00:45.640 about the bachelorette and taylor frankie paul and the domestic violence charges that she is now

00:00:51.180 facing and how abc has scrubbed the season entirely also paula is a resident of new york

00:00:57.440 city uh so we're talking mom donnie stay tuned okay paula thanks for joining the riley gaines

00:01:04.240 show um it's always fun to talk with you but we rarely get to do it with the cameras on so i'm

00:01:09.680 excited about this uh there's about a hundred different things in the news going on pop culture

00:01:14.960 that we could talk about but i wanted to talk with you about the whole taylor frankie paul

00:01:21.360 bachelorette situation uh for context obviously this was the newest season set to air this video

00:01:29.520 came out highlighting taylor frankie paul i guess a domestic violence situation i have to imagine

00:01:37.480 that abc knew about this because i mean quite frankly i knew about this i think this video

00:01:41.780 was from 2023 uh we actually have the video we're gonna play it really quick

00:01:46.820 let me go stop dude leave me alone

00:01:54.720 okay so you think abc knew about this too don't you i think they had to have right people talk

00:02:03.360 about the background checks that abc is doing on their contestants there's no way they didn't know

00:02:07.080 i remember when they chose frank chose her as the bachelorette i thought that it was a really

00:02:12.460 interesting choice given the scandal but i think they chose it because of the scandal because

00:02:16.380 controversial people get more views and abc is all about making money and so it's it's kind of

00:02:22.540 funny that it backfired on them that it got too they went too far she's too controversial this is

00:02:27.440 too much she saw people on the left and the right coming together and agreeing hey this is terrible

00:02:32.380 and ultimately the show was pulled yeah which that hardly ever happens uh i wonder how much

00:02:38.960 they spent on production costs because they made it through the entire season of filming didn't they

00:02:44.740 That's what I understand, and people who have gone and looked at it say that they spent at least $2 million on the season.

00:02:50.220 I don't know how these budgets work. I don't know anything about The Bachelorette or ABC or what they do.

00:02:54.480 I just know that they're flying around usually to locations, sometimes leaving the country.

00:02:59.580 I mean, it's not something that's cheap. It's a big show that's been going on for so many seasons.

00:03:04.080 I'm really curious to see what they try to do next.

00:03:06.120 A lot of people were saying maybe they'll try to redo the season, maybe the show will be over forever.

00:03:10.300 The entire situation is just completely absurd and ridiculous.

00:03:13.900 And again, they could have chose someone else to do this show.

00:03:18.280 They could have chose someone who is high profile, has a lot of followers, but is not in a video potentially abusing their own children, their partner, whatever.

00:03:28.800 Millions of options they could have picked and they didn't do that.

00:03:31.960 Yeah, I've never really understood the lore of Taylor Frankie Paul.

00:03:36.560 Forgive me for not really thinking she's a good bachelorette contestant.

00:03:40.380 She has, I think, three kids with two dads, one marriage.

00:03:43.900 The whole mom talk thing where I think her and her husband and her friend group were

00:03:49.260 accused of like, actually they admitted to being soft swingers, which I think basically

00:03:53.660 is where you partner swap within the friend group.

00:03:57.680 She's very clearly unstable.

00:03:59.320 If you follow her online, I think she struggled with eating disorders and depression and anxiety.

00:04:03.840 She's in this custody battle now.

00:04:05.600 And so I agree with you.

00:04:06.780 I think platforms and networks almost incentivize instability and chaos for views.

00:04:14.240 And I think that's no different here.

00:04:17.040 Have you been a Bachelor or Bachelorette fan also previously?

00:04:21.240 Honestly, not really.

00:04:22.500 I've seen some of the more controversial seasons.

00:04:25.120 And I think what's interesting, though, about this is if ABC were to air this season, and

00:04:30.300 you can chime in if you disagree with me, I think it would have been one of the most

00:04:34.140 viewed seasons.

00:04:35.140 I think so, too.

00:04:35.880 i have people texting me asking me because they know i sort of watch the show like my family

00:04:40.280 members that have never seen an episode ever and they're seeing this they're talking about the

00:04:44.900 bachelor franchise for the first time ever it would have been create good views for them which

00:04:50.620 is the worst part about all of this is that reality tv and all these networks that make money

00:04:55.000 they have incentives to have controversial people and again i think they knew all of this they

00:05:00.220 probably saw the video and they said you know what she's going to be great because she's

00:05:03.480 controversial, and they probably knew the relationship wouldn't last. And I think the

00:05:07.080 biggest and worst part about the Bachelor franchise is none of these relationships,

00:05:11.500 the entire point of the show, ever end up working out. They're all broken up. If you go and look at

00:05:16.760 every single season, and I think that they knew she was going to be in a position where it wasn't

00:05:20.700 going to work out, it was going to be messy, which would then give them more views, more attention,

00:05:25.160 more free marketing. Yeah, and maybe this was just a total assumption here, but this could have been

00:05:31.520 a PR stunt for even the next season to garner that kind of viewership and attention you're right

00:05:36.640 to the franchise from people who previously have not watched it and yeah these reality shows whether

00:05:43.020 it's something like bachelor bachelorette even love is blind I've watched all I think there's

00:05:48.240 10 seasons of love is blind and of the however many couples upwards of probably 60 or so couples

00:05:54.720 that have gotten to the altar or at least gotten engaged on the show I think there's maybe five

00:06:01.040 that are still together most recently vic and christine uh from the ohio season which i love

00:06:06.480 them by the way um but that's a different conversation but i asked you if you were a fan

00:06:11.140 of bachelor slash bachelorette because i don't know if you remember colton underwood do you

00:06:17.480 remember him i do oh my gosh okay so he's the football player uh who was on the show very

00:06:23.900 handsome very good looking very buff he was kind of got like the pilot pete edit of the bachelor

00:06:29.680 well he ended up getting engaged to cassie at the end of his season but after following i think a

00:06:36.380 few months after their engagement he admitted to stalking behavior so sending threatening messages

00:06:42.180 he put a tracker on cassie's car he was stalking her family members he even acted as if he was

00:06:47.900 being stalked and receiving these messages but he was sending himself these messages crazy behavior

00:06:53.820 um but then he came out as gay uh netflix documentary series coming out as colton he

00:07:01.760 was on the mass singer he was on another netflix show called traitors while taylor's season of

00:07:06.580 course in comparing the two was pulled entirely and so do you think there's a double standard here

00:07:13.220 between men and women when they're they're under scrutiny publicly like this it's not so much a

00:07:20.620 double standard i think the coming out as gay saved his his career and his public image in the

00:07:25.760 eyes of abc and these other mainstream places so i really from hearing what you just said i think

00:07:30.720 taylor freaky paul needs to come out as a full lesbian and they'll maybe air the season it's it's

00:07:35.440 but it's it's upsetting and i think there is a little bit of a double standard i don't know if

00:07:38.540 it's necessarily male and female or you know trans and gay versus not trans and gay which we obviously

00:07:44.780 know a lot about and i think that that probably helped save him and if he hadn't done that he

00:07:49.680 would 100 still be canceled given no airtime given no other shows given no other public attention

00:07:55.020 other than negative uh negative things towards him yeah now he's a little lower i guess higher

00:08:01.660 on the oppression totem pole and it's a good point you make we saw recently where mom donnie's

00:08:09.340 wife had engaged in some pretty crazy comments online uh saying the n-word i think she used the

00:08:17.500 f-slur when referring to the gay queer community yet we haven't really seen like this massive

00:08:24.040 cancellation uh where you can imagine let's say someone like melania trump people uncovered this

00:08:29.460 from even 10 15 20 years ago they would ask demand really her head on a platter but we haven't really

00:08:36.020 seen that with mom donnie's wife any insight there yeah i mean exactly that right they're viewed as

00:08:44.260 oppressed somehow because they're part of a certain religious group or minority group and

00:08:49.220 people don't want to call scrutiny on them at all and it doesn't surprise me whatsoever i already

00:08:55.780 went in thinking mom donnie was a terrible choice for mayor and his wife probably part of that

00:09:01.160 package so anything that she said does not really surprise me but of course they're never going to

00:09:05.820 call attention on it they're never going to talk about it there's always this double standard where

00:09:09.620 if someone agrees with you politically or is part of a certain group they you can't say anything

00:09:13.840 about them. And that's what we've seen really with many of these social issues that we've dealt

00:09:18.120 with in the political world. That's really what all of them boil down to. I really, that's how

00:09:22.720 Democrats run, right? It's just, are you part of this group? Check the box. There's probably a

00:09:26.500 checklist somewhere that they have going on thinking about how can we talk about this issue?

00:09:30.620 Yes or no. And that's the situation. And tying this sort of back to the Taylor, Frankie, Paul

00:09:35.960 thing, people were extra quick to cancel her because she's spoken about sort of trying to

00:09:42.740 find her religion she said positive words about charlie kirk and i saw i don't know if you saw

00:09:47.520 this but a lot of leftists online were more inclined to be upset about what she did because

00:09:51.980 she fell into that category instead of just saying at face value what she did was wrong and i think

00:09:56.440 that's a really confusing moral standard that they have but we see it every day with every single one

00:10:02.080 of these issues yeah that's right i don't think i saw where she said something about charlie kirk

00:10:07.000 yeah it was kind of unsurprising given again living in utah i would imagine given that the

00:10:13.700 assassination happened there maybe it hit close to home for her yeah i think she again has said

00:10:19.920 something positive about it i personally didn't see it i think it was just like an instagram story

00:10:23.880 back when everything had started happening i don't think there's been continued commentary but again

00:10:28.940 most influencers or any people they should have posted something positive about an event like that

00:10:34.860 I think doesn't you know doesn't say anything about where they stand politically or whatever

00:10:39.760 it shouldn't but yet again the leftists online turn it that way and I saw a little bit of

00:10:44.180 engagement on the Taylor for Taylor Frankie Paul situation because because of that which again is

00:10:49.200 super unfortunate the two things are not related and should never be related but again in the eyes

00:10:52.960 of Democrats that's always how they work from executive producer Taylor Sheridan try to keep

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00:12:30.600 I feel like we live in this very influencer-driven society and culture,

00:12:36.780 certainly more now than at any point in history,

00:12:39.560 given the access on social media, different things,

00:12:42.460 and I think the people's willingness, influencers' willingness to share their lives.

00:12:47.300 I think in the case of Taylor Frankie Paul, sometimes these deeply personal kind of chaotic

00:12:52.500 things that you probably shouldn't be sharing to your millions of followers. But it seems we have

00:12:57.140 so many, I think, especially young women who develop these almost parasocial relationships

00:13:03.060 with influencers. Is that something you feel like you've noticed?

00:13:08.060 Well, definitely. I think a recent event to tie that into is, I don't know if you saw this,

00:13:13.020 but zendaya got married right so yeah at some point behind closed doors and there were so many

00:13:18.320 people online who felt personally upset that they didn't know she was married didn't have access to

00:13:23.840 pictures of her wedding you do not know her you you're not friends you've never met in person

00:13:29.600 there's this entitlement to other people's lives simply because they're either more visible or

00:13:35.100 choose to post online about other things you're not entitled to information on people's personal

00:13:40.320 lives and even political views i don't know if you like this continues to happen time and time

00:13:45.040 again where people are canceling influencers that post content that have nothing to do with

00:13:49.360 politics insisting to know their political opinions and when they find out that those

00:13:53.840 opinions are not what exactly matches theirs they're quick to unfollow they're quick to say

00:13:59.360 this person's a horrible person when they only followed them for a specific niche that has

00:14:04.240 nothing to do with politics and so there's this again this entitlement of access to everyone's

00:14:09.760 everything. And when you don't get that, people go crazy, which it's really disturbing. And I think

00:14:15.880 we are at a really interesting time in the world where I don't know what the long-term effects of

00:14:20.540 this are. I don't know how much worse it's going to get. And I don't really know what the solution

00:14:24.760 is necessarily to fix it. I mean, we can't just ban social media. We can't de-platform anyone.

00:14:29.680 So it's a really difficult situation and people are definitely getting a little bit deranged over

00:14:35.080 it yeah i would certainly say so um i love tom holland and zendaya i think their marriage is

00:14:41.380 so sweet their relationship has been so sweet um but derange is a good word and when talking about

00:14:46.460 these parasocial relationships i think of sydney sweeney who was selling like her bath water and

00:14:52.600 you have creeps lining up miles long to be able to access this and purchase this because they feel

00:15:00.340 like they know her it's the most bizarre thing ever and i remember too when all the ice stuff

00:15:06.700 was happening in minnesota specifically it was alex earl which i like her she's chaotic she's fun

00:15:12.480 i follow all of her stuff i watch all of her videos she's very entertaining

00:15:16.200 if you were going through her comments everyone was demanding that she spoke about ice which

00:15:21.640 i don't believe she ever did when an influencer does that do you think that means secretly

00:15:28.540 that they're conservative? You know, that's something I think a lot of people automatically

00:15:34.340 jump to the conclusion of. I think it means, yeah, they probably lean that way, or they're

00:15:39.000 simply just a common sense, independent thinking person that's not overly involved with political

00:15:45.020 things, right? It used to be that if someone's not making commentary on politics, that it just

00:15:50.820 means like, yeah, they'll probably go vote for the president and kind of lean one way or the other

00:15:54.840 every four years and not think day to day about these things but now because of this you know

00:16:01.420 this hyper polarization people are automatically assuming you need to be fully aligned one way or

00:16:05.940 the other um i imagine alex earl maybe probably leans our way a little bit i think so too

00:16:13.180 but i don't think she has strong viewpoints maybe like the way you and i do and i think that's okay

00:16:19.980 i think she can be an influencer i think she can be posting her content and i don't think anyone

00:16:24.860 should ever demand anything from her politically and i think you and i if she made a statement

00:16:30.780 tomorrow saying hey i supported kamala harris in 2024 i don't necessarily think it would change

00:16:35.820 what we both view her content as for either of us and i think that's kind of how it should be and i

00:16:40.860 wish we could go back to sort of allowing people to do that and make their own decisions and not

00:16:45.580 affect her content. Now, if she started posting about, you know, Democrat policies and stuff,

00:16:50.380 we probably wouldn't want to consume her content. But if she came out and said that

00:16:53.840 and posted what she did, I don't know, maybe I wouldn't change my views on

00:16:57.680 how I consume her content. No, I absolutely agree with that. I would still watch her stuff too.

00:17:04.500 But in speaking about, I guess, you personally, obviously, having kind of been immersed in the

00:17:11.600 political sphere do you feel like you ever get political fatigue if you will oh definitely this

00:17:19.940 is something um i've been reflecting on a lot in the last really several months and i i think you

00:17:25.900 probably will agree with some of these things i think what happened to us and a lot of the other

00:17:30.740 women who sort of came up on the issue that we both worked a little bit of your background very

00:17:35.840 quickly too. Yes. Yeah. So everyone obviously knows Riley Gaines and her story, but I was

00:17:43.280 teammates with the wonderful man, Leah Thomas, that Riley was forced to compete against at the

00:17:48.760 NCAA championship. And so just talking about how it's unfair for a man to be in our locker room

00:17:53.520 and on our sports team, but also I talked a lot about the censorship I faced from my university,

00:17:57.920 from my conference and not speaking about how we thought it was unfair. So that's a quick

00:18:03.300 background but really what I've thought and I think same thing probably goes for you is I never

00:18:10.140 once wanted to be a person who grew up talking about politics like you and I probably voted

00:18:16.140 had political opinions as we should but never once imagined this would be more than something you do

00:18:21.900 when you're behind the closed door voting in the voting booth every four years every four years or

00:18:27.600 or in local elections, whatever it might be. But because of this horrible leftist policy and

00:18:35.140 basically framing of everything, we were forced to talk about politics, right?

00:18:40.620 Their terrible policy decision making and whatever's going on in that camp that said,

00:18:45.820 hey, a six foot four tall man can actually be a woman athlete forced us to talk about politics.

00:18:52.000 And so I think in a weird way, yeah, people have fatigue because not just on our issue,

00:18:56.940 on a lot of issues certain people who had no you know desire to be in the political world were

00:19:04.380 forced into it and i'm not saying that i regret speaking out or and i mean you absolutely don't

00:19:09.940 either but do you know kind of what i'm saying like we were forced into speaking about this

00:19:14.720 because they were so extreme because they were so radical because they pushed everyday average

00:19:20.380 americans that never once needed to join this fight pushed us into it and so in that way yeah

00:19:25.100 it feels exhausting. It's so true. I feel like it takes a certain type of person, whether it's to

00:19:31.660 sit behind a camera with lights in your face, whether it's to, you know, be on a house floor

00:19:37.480 of some, you know, state capital or even in Washington, D.C. It takes a special kind of

00:19:42.580 person to want to do that or to be privy to it or to be natural at it. Of course, not every single

00:19:48.040 person would thrive and succeed in that setting and that was not me like i was not that person

00:19:55.880 even still quite frankly like it's not overly natural for me to do those things and so i

00:20:00.700 absolutely agree with you and i think too the issue of men and women's sports i don't have

00:20:05.440 anything new or profound even to say nothing that's overly wise it's unfair it's unsafe

00:20:13.780 it's wrong we've been having this discussion for i mean speaking personally what nearly four years

00:20:19.900 now i just don't even have anything new to add it's like beating a dead horse if we can't move

00:20:24.740 the needle it does like i i certainly feel the fatigue as well and i think especially with

00:20:29.980 the issues that circulate online now whether that be the constant incessant need to create

00:20:37.180 these conspiracy theories and these totally outlandish things on an array of topics whether

00:20:42.660 it be the bad actors that are constantly platformed people like nick fuentes whether it's

00:20:48.260 uh what's going on in the middle east and foreign policy which truthfully i didn't know a lot about

00:20:55.620 even still i would say i have a very very entry-level understanding there and i'm not going

00:21:00.100 to act like i don't the political fatigue is certainly there but i guess in talking about

00:21:06.420 kind of the middle east and and what's going on there one of the conversations that has been

00:21:12.340 online is this obsession with israel it's beyond me honestly i don't understand it i don't get it

00:21:19.620 people comment on my posts all the time saying you know you got you must have been paid seven

00:21:24.580 thousand dollars the post to post this like really by who like i just it doesn't i don't even

00:21:29.380 understand what they're saying okay i wanted to get your gauge as another gen z-er on the topic of

00:21:36.980 israel like do you think this is an issue that young people care about or do you think this is

00:21:40.660 mostly like online discussion yeah that's a thing this is an interesting thing that always comes up

00:21:47.920 whenever you talk about the political realm which wasn't the case when we first started in this

00:21:52.440 political world right like this was never something that ever was a big topic um my take on it is just

00:21:58.720 it's a foreign policy issue which again i don't know a lot about my take is that i i'm kind of

00:22:07.480 tired of hearing about it and this kind of goes maybe both ways it's it's really interesting that

00:22:12.900 this just keeps coming up into conversation and I think both sides of this issue have in common

00:22:18.420 that they can't stop talking about it right like even people who obviously I don't support Hamas

00:22:23.620 I don't support you know that horrible situation going on and any conflict really but I don't I

00:22:30.760 don't know anything I'm not getting briefed I don't work in the White House but there's this

00:22:34.620 pressure for sort of young people to know about what's going on in foreign countries. I actually

00:22:41.540 I'm a dual citizen and maybe I'm going to get canceled now by these people who are saying

00:22:45.460 anyone who's not just 100% American is a horrible person, which we see online. And I still don't

00:22:50.920 fully understand the conflict going on. I'm a Taiwanese citizen for context for people.

00:22:55.280 And I don't fully understand and grasp a lot of the things that go on over there with Taiwan and

00:22:59.640 China. I know a lot. I know probably more than the average American, but I don't know everything.

00:23:04.620 And I'm not going to try to sit here and say I'm a 26-year-old that has all the answers.

00:23:09.960 And so it's really unfortunate, again, maybe you feel this way, that you have pressure maybe to

00:23:13.940 comment on something you don't necessarily know about. And there's a lot of people going on

00:23:18.300 online that are just saying things that they don't know anything about. They're not the

00:23:22.420 president. They're not working in the White House. They're just saying whatever comes to mind.

00:23:27.000 Yeah, transparently, I think with the platform that I have been blessed with, with millions of

00:23:33.040 followers on X and TikTok and Instagram, I almost put pressure on myself to say something, right?

00:23:38.460 Like people are looking for me. And actually, Ali Bestucki came on the show a few weeks ago,

00:23:42.500 and we talked about this, where that pressure, you're putting it on you. I had to like take a

00:23:49.580 step back and realize no one, Riley, is coming to you for their thoughts on Iran. Nobody. And

00:23:55.200 you're insane if you think it. But I think it just comes with the platform, I guess.

00:24:01.100 so what issues is it do you think that young people care about right now i think the biggest

00:24:07.700 thing and again also we're the same age so chime in too um is really just what's going on at home

00:24:14.820 i think affordability i think something i look at is the number of kids that are not feeling

00:24:20.600 independence from their parents right there's sort of before it used to be you move out when

00:24:25.320 you're 18 maybe a little bit after that and then you sort of break away you get married you start

00:24:29.700 of family, I'm looking at people who are my age, people who are even a little bit older,

00:24:34.100 they're still maybe in their mid-30s, unmarried, living at home. And it's not because of failure

00:24:39.540 of that person. It's because of the system now where you can't afford houses at the same price.

00:24:45.980 The job markets are different. The base salary pay you have with inflation doesn't go as far.

00:24:51.680 And I think that that's really what young people are feeling pressure. And so when we talk about

00:24:55.820 foreign issues, there's a lot of fatigue because they're just saying, well, my day-to-day life is

00:24:59.900 that I can't afford things the way my parents could. I can't have a house the same time my

00:25:05.400 parents did when they were my age. And I really think that that's the root of all of it. And

00:25:10.220 again, that's really what it all comes down to for young people. I don't think there's really

00:25:14.180 anything else people think of. And when people talk about elections and number one issues,

00:25:20.300 the thing that always comes up is really affordability. And I think, again, that continues

00:25:25.040 to show and that's what i continue to see people talking about and complaining about and anything

00:25:29.760 else that they're secondary thinking about is uh just trickle down from really that issue which is

00:25:35.440 why when people promise free things it's so appealing it's so incentivizing you want to get

00:25:40.960 out and vote for that person one of those people being mom donnie as you alluded to you live in new

00:25:45.760 york city how is that going have you seen any major shift over the past few months i should

00:25:52.240 should have taken a picture of this and sent it to you guys it's really funny because every bus

00:25:57.300 has on the side of the bus it's not like what line it is it says fare is not free or some wording of

00:26:04.120 that to remind people that even though mom donnie ran on the bus is being free you still very much

00:26:09.500 do have to pay for the bus in new york city it is the funniest thing that you see every bus you pass

00:26:14.860 by in new york so that's the one quick funny aside um yeah i mean we saw disasters with the snow

00:26:21.180 storms uh that was a really big thing were these disgusting snow banks where um if you wanted to

00:26:27.120 diet on any given day i recommend actually just walking out into the snow banks looking at the

00:26:32.360 heroin needles uh trash uh you could see urine i hope they're from dogs but you never know

00:26:38.920 just disgusting things in these snow banks that just stayed there for weeks crowded the sidewalk

00:26:44.240 uh we were talking about this before i'll share this story quickly actually a friend get robbed

00:26:49.900 because of the snowbank situation he was a couple doors away from home and these three guys approached

00:26:55.680 him and he couldn't get around them because of this massive snowbank so he was sort of forced

00:27:00.180 to engage with them and they ended up stealing his nice watch he was able to get away safe and

00:27:04.900 sound and obviously went to the police and the police told him that these people have been had

00:27:09.720 been doing it all through the winter so they really took advantage of the snowbank situation

00:27:13.900 and of course the cops weren't able to do anything because conveniently the cameras on all the

00:27:18.780 corners were not available and didn't get any clear image, which no surprise, if you report

00:27:24.800 crime, oftentimes nothing happens. So I've heard that. I've seen more crazy people on the subways.

00:27:32.220 I don't know. I mean, it's still early on. It's probably going to get worse. I'm just glad that

00:27:36.800 we're coming into spring now where at least the snowbank situation is going to be obviously

00:27:41.560 better. There's no more of that. So that is my one positive coming into summer.

00:27:45.780 Have you noticed kind of like a mass exodus from places like New York, maybe even in the city to more conservative parts of the country, especially with taxes being increased in the city?

00:28:00.240 Yeah, well, I'm sure you could probably talk about how your Nashville, Tennessee area is becoming overpopulated.

00:28:07.440 I mean, yeah, it's pretty much every week we're having a go away party.

00:28:10.620 I'm hearing Tennessee, Florida, I have so many friends that have moved to Florida. And I'm happy

00:28:16.560 they moved to Florida because I have a place to go visit them. And I think it's probably going to

00:28:20.100 be pretty soon when I go and join them. Because yeah, I don't know how much more we're going to

00:28:24.940 be able to take here. But again, it's hard for me personally, because I have my family all in this

00:28:31.300 area. And that's sort of why I'm here. It's great to be close to family. I really value that. And

00:28:37.360 it's really, really hard. Of course, New York was always left-leaning, but this is too far,

00:28:42.620 right? I could deal with maybe a sort of maybe Democrat lean place, but a place that's saying,

00:28:47.900 hey, the buses are going to be free. Here's all of this stuff that you can't do. Increasing taxes

00:28:53.280 and giving us nothing in return. A lot of people don't appeal to that. Yeah. Yeah. No, Tennessee,

00:28:59.880 very much. We have felt the weight of people from California. I mean, you name the blue state,

00:29:06.500 Even corporations. There's a big Facebook headquarters now in my hometown. In-N-Out has moved their headquarters to Nashville. Starbucks just announced that they're leaving Seattle, which is pretty crazy after a big tax bill was passed to come to Nashville.

00:29:21.440 So certainly we are feeling it, which is of course good for the economy, but we don't have the infrastructure really to be able to support that, unfortunately.

00:29:35.220 And so roads and traffic and school even, oh my gosh, my little sister's school, there's maybe 1,600 kids in this school and it's not a school that can support that.

00:29:47.420 they're building those townhomes and condos and apartments everywhere down here and so i have a

00:29:53.440 feeling that it's only going to get more crowded and more expensive and you have to predict it will

00:30:00.460 only get more blue which that's the part that really kills me so we will see what the future

00:30:07.880 looks like uh well paula you rock i always appreciate you coming on so thank you very very

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Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - March 25, 2026

Why The Bachelorette’s Controversial Season Won't Air ｜ The Riley Gaines Show

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