Get MACED - September 30, 2026


Lindsay Clancy's Lawyer SCREAMED My Name in Court. Big Mistake. Nancy Mace.

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00:00:00.800 All right, good evening. This is Congresswoman Nancy Mace. We have a lot to go over today.
00:00:06.060 Lindsay Clancy's attorney is triggered. That much is for sure. This is all anyone is talking about
00:00:12.800 today. First, we had the appearance in the next hearing for the mistrial of Lindsay Clancy,
00:00:18.060 and Judge Sullivan took the required finding and the double jeopardy issues under advisement.
00:00:26.620 that means that the judge is not ruled on them yet he'll take them under advisement and rule
00:00:31.840 on them later there's another upcoming hearing on november 2nd for the holdout juror inquiry
00:00:38.000 the gag order request so the prosecutor requested a gag order on kevin reddington and that was
00:00:44.460 another big one today and he left the court quiet silent probably a good thing um and they need to
00:00:51.420 be ready to talk about a retrial date at the next November 2nd hearing. Prosecutors argued that
00:00:58.440 Reddington's public comments created a carnival atmosphere. I think that's probably the
00:01:03.280 understatement of the year. I think it also set the stage for a mistrial based on some of his
00:01:12.740 comments as well. The status hearing after the 11 to 1 deadlock and that, you know, Kevin
00:01:19.500 Reddington had the nerve today to say he's done nothing, that he doesn't need a gag order, that
00:01:26.020 he's not done anything to target the juror. Well, he forgets he's the one that targeted the juror
00:01:34.400 and his court comments. He said today that it wasn't, he just filed a motion. He didn't do
00:01:40.780 anything beyond that, Your Honor. That is not at all what happened. Where is the evidence that she
00:01:48.540 did this? This is a woman that did not get the medication, did not get the medical treatment 0.78
00:01:59.260 that she so deserved. This is a woman that was suffering from
00:02:03.180 psychosis at the time that she went down to that basement where's the evidence that she did this
00:02:13.200 where is the evidence that she did this it appears that kevin reddington has had a lapse
00:02:21.540 in memory and we'll go over that tonight he called the lone juror that guy all of a sudden
00:02:28.920 stories come out about that guy the lone juror and kevin reddington lindsey clancy's attorney
00:02:34.820 starts bloviating about all these articles about the lone juror and posting them on social media
00:02:41.080 trashing him come on man like that's that's not reality and that's my problem with the left and
00:02:50.260 then today he said he had the nerve to to say that he's just responding to donald trump you know
00:02:55.380 beating his chest to Nancy Mace, me, and Ted Cruz, and that I guess I wanted a public execution. 0.99
00:03:02.240 Yes, I do, because if you kill your kids, you should be killed yourself and do it state-sanctioned 1.00
00:03:09.420 death penalty. Yes. Remind people you cannot kill all of your children. It's a deterrent. 1.00
00:03:16.540 In fact, in Tennessee this week, I believe they're executing the first female 1.00
00:03:21.580 on death row in over 200 years probably well deserved um 0.99
00:03:27.360 so the judge said that he'd prefer any trial anytime before i guess anytime this year
00:03:35.520 um so all these motions are on the table the judge will have a hearing on november 2nd to
00:03:40.920 hear them the da hasn't said whether or not they will actually retry the case that has not there's
00:03:47.860 not been a motion on it. There was a motion dismissed, was pushed for November 2nd because
00:03:53.180 prosecutors needed more time. They weren't ready to argue that motion today. And the holdout juror
00:04:00.620 investigation will be heard the same day. The best quote from Reddington today, when I say best,
00:04:06.620 I mean worst. He said, quote, I'm not ever going to agree to let this young lady do a day in jail.
00:04:13.960 Let me finish that sentence for killing all three of her children who do not have a voice in that courtroom, Kevin.
00:04:23.500 And tonight or last night, the lone holdout juror gave a statement to Sean Hannity on Fox News.
00:04:31.740 Watch this.
00:04:33.320 I know the whole focus has been on me, but we want to reel everything back and put the focus on the three angels that's at hand. 0.98
00:04:41.000 What a good Christian man who only was doing what he thought was the right thing to do based on the evidence before him.
00:04:49.940 And the gag order verbatim, the DA says Reddington is engaged in substantial publicity pre-trial, during trial and post-trial that has inevitably tainted any further venue. 0.86
00:05:06.220 You say it's up to Tim, but what would you like?
00:05:08.420 What does it look like?
00:05:09.100 You know, I know enough to know that it doesn't matter what I'd like. 1.00
00:05:11.320 All I know is that I'm not going to ever agree that this young lady do a day in jail.
00:05:14.760 And I agree with the DA on this, that that's what's happened.
00:05:21.900 So no retrial date, but the judge is asking for one to start this year.
00:05:26.580 Some of the firebrands online on both sides of the argument are out there.
00:05:30.260 The Daily Wire had the clip of the outburst, Reddington threw a tantrum, they said.
00:05:36.340 they named Trump and me as people he was, quote, reacting to. The only thing I want,
00:05:44.160 Kevin Reddington, is justice for Patrick Clancy's three children,
00:05:51.300 Cora, Dawson, and Callum. They deserve that much. Blaze played that same clip,
00:05:56.720 same framing, that he's tired of being called an attacker of the juror. Well, Kevin, if you
00:06:01.840 didn't want to be an attacker of the juror, you sure probably should not have attacked the juror.
00:06:06.340 they know that they were robbed by one man for whatever his agenda was who stole seven weeks
00:06:17.040 of the life of these other jurors it wasn't just about emotion it was how you singled him out and
00:06:23.620 you gendered him by the way you announced it was a male juror the whole nation knew there were only
00:06:28.680 three male jurors it's one of those three hiccups i have mineral water but i also have um electrolytes
00:06:38.380 in my water um anyway libs of tiktok says if you thought it was just lindsey clancy think again
00:06:47.560 she's not the only one there was a potential purported copycat killing of a child in illinois 0.96
00:06:55.000 There was a black woman that murdered her child in New York. 1.00
00:06:59.500 Pink mob wasn't there for her because she was black, of course. 1.00
00:07:03.360 But there's an epidemic of mothers murdering their children, is what she says. 0.98
00:07:09.060 Very dark times. 0.82
00:07:10.080 I agree, libs of TikTok.
00:07:11.700 It is very dark times.
00:07:13.740 And then there's the repeal of the 19th crowd who don't want to give women the right to vote.
00:07:20.960 and megan mccain says quote feel like a woman becoming president has now gotten much further
00:07:29.920 away from happening since the lindsey clancy trial she posted on september 4th
00:07:34.200 prescient and i ultimately believe that's true may not have a female president in my lifetime 1.00
00:07:41.720 joy reed actually backed the holdout juror believe it or not and accused the women 1.00
00:07:49.120 of going after them. Well, Joy, you're right. They did go after him in an ugly way. He had to 0.59
00:07:54.780 move out of his house, move out of town. He had to go into hiding with his family because of the
00:08:00.940 liberal white woman mob. All those women in the pink shirts. Don Lemon suggested that Clancy's 1.00
00:08:10.740 mental illness defense would be ignored if she were black, and he's right too. I made that point 1.00
00:08:16.320 couple of weeks ago. Do you think if she was black it would be a different situation? Oh nobody would 1.00
00:08:21.200 be supporting her if she were black. No one would be supporting her if she was black? No liberal 1.00
00:08:26.160 white women aren't going to support a black woman who murdered her kids. There was one in New York 1.00
00:08:28.960 that did um and uh just got away with it who murdered her children in New York. You didn't
00:08:33.440 see the same. Why would a liberal white woman support a black woman in her exact situation? 1.00
00:08:38.320 that i'm paraphrasing and i need to put the clip up but if lindsey clancy were black the liberal 0.99
00:08:49.320 white woman the left the mob would ignore her they ignore ignored the black mom in new york
00:08:54.560 they would have ignored her so plenty of reactions on line online today and all i mean not all of 0.96
00:09:02.680 But this is ridiculous what Kevin Reddington is claiming.
00:09:06.520 And now he's claiming, too, that Lindsay Clancy, that there's no proof she killed her kids. 0.63
00:09:12.520 Roll the tape.
00:09:14.600 Where is the evidence that she did this? 0.82
00:09:18.680 This is a woman that did not get the medication, did not get the medical treatment that she so deserved.
00:09:29.220 This is a woman that was suffering from psychosis at the time that she went down to that basement.
00:09:39.580 Where's the evidence that she did this?
00:09:41.880 Where is the evidence that she did this?
00:09:45.320 But before that, during the trial, he acknowledged essentially that she was the killer.
00:09:52.180 Didn't point any fingers at anybody else.
00:09:54.240 They were there to defend. He was there to defend his client against a murder charge.
00:10:00.620 Not one time did he say she didn't do it in the trial.
00:10:05.620 It's one thing we talk about over and over again during the trial. 0.99
00:10:10.020 So Lindsey Clancy's attorney got triggered.
00:10:13.200 Every comment I have made has been in reaction to people from Donald Trump on down to Nancy Mace down to Cruz.
00:10:22.300 not the DA but the politician calling for her execution I have responded to these outlandish
00:10:28.680 comments including the guy from Houston I just wanted to say that judge the DA the defense
00:10:33.660 attorney says he wants the case handled in court not on television but after publicly responding
00:10:38.840 to critics appearing on national television and asking the president for a pardon President Trump
00:10:44.140 in a state case he did a whole media tour after the mistrial Kevin Reddington has made himself a
00:10:51.260 part of the public debate what's next for lindsay i'd like to uh say that perhaps donald trump
00:10:58.860 who felt compelled to speak out about this case may very well mr president i would hope that you
00:11:04.140 would consider this young lady the type of person she is what she's been through and consider a
00:11:11.020 pardon you say it's up to tim but what would you like what does it look like you know i know enough
00:11:15.260 to know that it doesn't matter what i'd like all i know is that i'm not going to ever agree that 0.92
00:11:18.700 this young lady do a day in jail meanwhile one juror is facing public scrutiny for doing the job
00:11:24.380 he was summoned to do the holdout juror didn't have a choice to serve on that jury he didn't get
00:11:31.420 he didn't get the right to have the right to say no you don't get to say no when your name
00:11:36.860 is called for the jury you have to serve and three children remain unable to speak for themselves
00:11:46.380 Today, we're putting the focus back where it belongs on Cora, Dawson, and Callan.
00:11:51.960 Welcome back to Get Maced.
00:11:54.700 Three children are dead.
00:11:56.280 Their father, Patrick Clancy, has had to bury all three of his children.
00:12:00.020 And yet again and again, the public conversation is centered on the mother accused of killing them.
00:12:06.120 Her mental state, her defense, the sympathy surrounding her, Patrick's grief has often been treated as an afterthought.
00:12:12.360 hell the view criticized him for getting divorced too soon after all three of his children were
00:12:18.300 killed were murdered this is backwards the children can't hire an attorney they can't go
00:12:24.420 on television or explain their side of the story they don't get that right they don't have that
00:12:28.520 they don't have the ability because they're dead they're dead because their mother killed them
00:12:34.280 according to kevin reddington in the initial court trial the latest hearing ended without a retrial
00:12:41.420 date. So the next hearing is set for November 2nd, and it's not a retrial date. It's a hearing
00:12:45.980 to discuss the retrial. The court is expected to address pending defense motions to hold out
00:12:50.780 juror inquiry and other matters. The district attorney hasn't announced whether the case
00:12:55.520 will actually be retried. It sounds like he's skeptical that it's even possible because of
00:13:00.300 the publicity surrounding this case. And where do they get a new video? Where do they go?
00:13:05.080 There's probably not one town in the country that's never heard of Lindsey Clancy.
00:13:08.540 The defense is seeking an all-outright dismissal and has raised the double jeopardy arguments.
00:13:15.840 The prosecution has argued that the defense's public comments created what is called a carnival atmosphere.
00:13:20.760 That is an understatement.
00:13:23.660 A possible gag order issued and records concerning the holdout juror are expected to be addressed.
00:13:30.040 So the gag order has been filed, but the judge has not decided on the gag order.
00:13:36.340 but Kevin Reddington Lindsay Clancy's attorney was awful quiet today as he left the courtroom
00:13:43.880 there's also a striking contradiction in the public messaging during the trial
00:13:48.800 the defense argued the acts occurred but claimed Lindsay Clancy was not criminally responsible
00:13:54.780 because solely because of her mental state now according to reports from the hearing
00:14:01.520 the defense has also argued that there's no proof she committed the acts at all
00:14:06.140 he said, where is the evidence? Watch the difference between the defense presented at trial
00:14:12.020 and the argument now floating publicly during trial. The defense focused on, during the trial,
00:14:19.740 the defense focused on criminal responsibility. I know it's a war of words, it's a left,
00:14:24.980 they're redefining everything. But the defense's defense was focused on criminal responsibility,
00:14:31.160 stating that Lindsay Clancy didn't have criminal responsibility in the killing of her children.
00:14:36.140 Now critics say the public argument is shifting toward whether or not the acts
00:14:39.580 happened at all. The court will decide which arguments are legally viable, but the public
00:14:44.740 deserves clarity. Then Reddington said, I'm not ever going to agree. Not ever going to agree with
00:14:51.280 what, Kevin? All I know is that I'm not going to ever agree that this young lady do a day in jail. 0.84
00:14:55.640 He said he's never going to let this young lady do a day in jail. She killed all three of her 0.98
00:14:59.600 children. She deserves more than all of the days of her life in jail. She deserves an execution. 1.00
00:15:05.120 her children are dead she should be dead too a public execution carried out by the state they 1.00
00:15:11.060 don't do they don't do executions or the death penalty in massachusetts anymore they should 0.99
00:15:17.160 especially for this one that's a powerful declaration from a defense attorney he's not
00:15:22.340 going to let her do another day in jail but it also raises a question where is the same urgency
00:15:28.300 for the three children who will never get another day alive they'll never have another birthday
00:15:33.260 another christmas another chance to grow up they'll never kiss their father and tell them
00:15:37.660 and tell him that they love him a defense attorney's job is to advocate for his client
00:15:43.760 that's not in dispute but advocacy cannot require the public to forget the victims
00:15:47.740 and that's exactly what's happened and it can't transform every person who disagrees with the
00:15:53.540 defense into an enemy of justice that's what they've turned the lone juror into look at the
00:16:01.340 lone juror had to say on Sean Hannity tonight. I know the whole focus has been on me, but we want
00:16:07.440 to reel everything back and put the focus on the three angels that's at hand. Watch this.
00:16:13.800 Every comment I have made has been in reaction to people from Donald Trump on down to Nancy Mace
00:16:21.360 down to Cruz, not the DA, but the politician calling for her execution. I have responded to
00:16:28.200 these outlandish comments, including the guy from Houston. I just wanted to say that, Judge.
00:16:33.020 Kevin Reddington criticized me for calling for the harshest possible punishment known to man
00:16:40.640 for the murder of your children. I think it should be an execution. I think it should be 0.92
00:16:44.120 public. I think it should be used as a deterrent so that no other mom kills her kids.
00:16:51.160 Reddington says, I've never seen the evidence, never sat in the courtroom, have no authority
00:16:55.600 to call for an execution. The legal point is straightforward. Public statements don't determine
00:17:00.120 a sentence. It is my opinion. And Kevin, I'm allowed to have an opinion according to the
00:17:06.140 First Amendment. I'm not gagged by your case either. And if I want to draft legislation
00:17:12.640 that makes this sort of thing the death penalty at the federal level, I can do that.
00:17:19.240 The court must decide the case under Massachusetts law, which is not federal law, Kevin.
00:17:24.400 That's state law.
00:17:25.660 You should have learned this in law school 101. 1.00
00:17:29.980 And Lindsey Clancy remains entitled to due process.
00:17:34.060 But Kevin Reddington did not keep the matter entirely inside the courtroom.
00:17:37.460 He went public.
00:17:38.000 He went very public.
00:17:39.860 Press conferences every day at the courthouse.
00:17:41.620 He responded to politicians and commenters.
00:17:43.400 He did interviews.
00:17:43.900 He went on a media tour, a national media tour, making headlines after the mistrial.
00:17:50.340 One of the first headlines was...
00:17:53.600 He wanted a federal pardon for his client from President Trump in a state case.
00:17:59.000 Again, Kevin, I'm not an attorney.
00:18:01.880 I don't give legal advice, but I know law school 101, that is not a thing.
00:18:05.700 You can't give a federal pardon to somebody in a state case.
00:18:08.740 He sought the national stage.
00:18:11.920 He sought national tension.
00:18:13.900 He also publicly sought a federal pardon in that state case,
00:18:16.820 a request raising serious legal questions about federal clemency authority,
00:18:21.000 which the federal government has none.
00:18:23.600 In this clip, Reddington says his public remarks were reactions to people including President Trump, Senator Cruz, and me.
00:18:35.700 But responding to criticism isn't a requirement of the job, Kevin.
00:18:39.580 You don't have to to be an attorney, to be an effective attorney.
00:18:44.220 Responding to criticism doesn't erase the fact that Kevin Reddington chose to enter the public conversation.
00:18:49.280 He did that on his own.
00:18:51.920 I didn't make him do it.
00:18:53.080 I didn't put a gun to his head to publicly comment on the case.
00:18:57.720 He did it to himself.
00:18:59.940 Kevin, this is the big leagues now.
00:19:02.740 Put on your big boy pants and get moving or get out of the way. 0.99
00:19:07.060 Kevin Reddington defended a killer, and I'm calling for the execution of that killer. 0.62
00:19:12.120 I appreciated the shout out, but we're not the same, Kevin.
00:19:15.280 This is a political argument in one sentence.
00:19:17.180 Reddington is defending a client.
00:19:19.420 I'm defending the children.
00:19:20.700 I'm defending justice.
00:19:22.620 I'm demanding the harshest punishment possible if the facts and the law support it.
00:19:27.920 They aren't performing the same role, and Kevin, you and I are not the same people.
00:19:31.440 We have a different moral compass.
00:19:33.860 The case has not resulted in a final conviction.
00:19:36.500 The legally careful formulation is that the, quote, woman accused of killing her children, end quote, or if convicted, and the distinction matters.
00:19:44.600 But let's move on to the lone juror.
00:19:46.280 The jury deadlocked 11 to 1 mistrial.
00:19:49.460 The lone juror became a public target and reports indicate that he and his wife
00:19:53.120 face doxing threats, serious disruption, and a serious disruption to their lives.
00:19:59.200 People are allowed to disagree with this decision.
00:20:02.700 The question is whether a juror should face intimidation for refusing to follow the majority.
00:20:07.480 No, they should not.
00:20:09.300 A jury is not supposed to be a political movement.
00:20:11.440 Jurors are not supposed to vote according to public pressure.
00:20:14.800 they're supposed to examine the evidence
00:20:16.920 deliberate and reach an honest
00:20:18.780 to God conclusion and Michael
00:20:20.480 Desronville the lone juror
00:20:22.620 did that
00:20:23.320 he said he wants to put the focus on the lone
00:20:28.340 on the three children
00:20:29.740 the ones who can't speak for themselves
00:20:32.380 notice what he did when he finally
00:20:34.540 spoke publicly he didn't center
00:20:35.900 the story on himself
00:20:38.560 he centered the story on the children the dead children
00:20:40.800 he didn't make the moment about
00:20:42.560 revenge he didn't do it out of anger
00:20:44.280 he redirected the tension to the three children who can't speak for themselves the children who
00:20:51.500 cannot testify who cannot hire an attorney who cannot go on television who cannot explain their
00:20:56.700 side of the story and why their mom might have done this the lone juror reminded the public of
00:21:02.700 the most important fact in this entire case that three children are dead and the public reaction
00:21:09.060 has become increasingly divided some commentators have attacked the juror others have defended him
00:21:13.520 Some have turned the case into a broader argument about women, mental illness, marriage, and criminal responsibility, and why, by God, why did the husband leave the wife so soon?
00:21:22.140 Because all of his kids were dead, that's why, and she killed them.
00:21:26.420 Some commentators have argued the juror was unfairly targeted by other jurors or by the media.
00:21:31.960 Watch the original clip and decide for yourself what was actually said.
00:21:35.660 We should not repeat fair paraphrases as direct quotes.
00:21:38.920 another commentator raised a racial comparison involving the mental illness defense again
00:21:45.460 we're showing the original words rather than relying on a paraphrase the comparison may be
00:21:49.940 part of the public debate but it does not should not displace the central facts of this case
00:21:55.440 lindsey clancy killed her kids the mental illness is an explanation of it it's not the excuse and
00:22:03.360 that is the difference or post demanding the repeal of the 19th amendment those
00:22:07.420 comments generate attention to my comments have generated attention
00:22:10.660 when we need to make sure that we advance justice even with our comments they turn three dead kids
00:22:18.020 into fuel for a culture war and maybe this is a culture war worth having because if you kill your 0.98
00:22:23.200 children you should be killed too and there's a there's a disturbing double standard in the way 0.99
00:22:28.540 the public has treated patrick clancy if a mother lost her children to a man accused of killing them 1.00
00:22:32.920 would a television host ask why she didn't stay married to him
00:22:36.400 would anyone suggest suggest that she owed him her husband lifelong loyalty no they would not
00:22:43.500 would anyone criticize the wife for rebuilding her life of course not
00:22:47.640 forgiveness is not the same as reconciliation and mental illness is real grief is real
00:22:54.560 accountability is real the right to heal is real and the right to heal is patrick clancy's right
00:23:01.780 He doesn't owe the public a lifetime chain to the person accused of destroying his family and killing his kids.
00:23:07.620 Men are not setting women back by demanding equal accountability, I argue.
00:23:10.820 It's the women that are holding women back now because of the Lindsay Clancy trial and the nine woke liberal white women jurors. 1.00
00:23:20.700 Double standards are getting in the way of progress for women by God, and these feminists are on the wrong side of history. 0.90
00:23:27.900 There are two separate questions here.
00:23:29.680 the legal question is whether the prosecution can prove its case in the environment that we're in
00:23:33.860 now it is a circus and how the court should evaluate mental illness intent and responsibility
00:23:38.800 the moral question is whether the children will be remembered or whether they will disappear
00:23:44.460 behind a public campaign centered on the accused which I believe has already happened the legal
00:23:49.980 system must follow the evidence the public should avoid declaring a defendant guilty before a lawful
00:23:54.540 verdict yes however she killed her kids but avoiding a premature legal conclusion does not
00:24:00.740 mean avoiding moral clarity it does not mean pretending the children are a footnote it does
00:24:05.040 not mean attacking the fathers for trying to heal it does not mean threatening a juror
00:24:09.580 for following his conscience the man the juror michael
00:24:12.620 is in hiding it doesn't mean allowing the loudest voices in the case to drown out
00:24:21.000 others, or drown out the kids who can no longer speak.
00:24:28.240 The defense is entitled to defend its client.
00:24:30.740 The prosecution is entitled to prosecute its case.
00:24:34.120 A defense attorney can argue mental illness without erasing the children.
00:24:37.280 A politician can demand accountability without deciding the verdict.
00:24:40.300 A juror can disagree with the majority without becoming a villain.
00:24:43.800 And a grieving father can forgive without remaining trapped in his marriage.
00:24:48.440 Three children are dead.
00:24:49.680 Their mother killed them. Their father is grieving.
00:24:53.140 One juror held the line.
00:24:54.520 The most important person in the story isn't the loudest attorney,
00:24:57.740 isn't the most viral commentator, the loudest tweet,
00:25:00.900 or the politician receiving the most criticism, or the biggest microphone.
00:25:05.420 It's the three children who can no longer speak for themselves.
00:25:08.440 That's Cora. That's Dawson. That's Callan.
00:25:11.940 They deserve to be remembered for who they were, not reduced to a talking point,
00:25:15.640 an argument about their mother, their father, or the politics surrounding the case.
00:25:20.320 We all need to remember Patrick Clancy's children.
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