Get MACED - August 25, 2026


Nancy Mace Breaks Down 3 Verdicts the Internet Got WRONG


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00:00:00.000 Oh
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00:00:33.960 all right it's monday night already a lot going on three verdicts land this week a jury in
00:01:00.220 Plymouth, Massachusetts, decides what a murderous mother owed her children.
00:01:05.320 And then we head down to South Carolina.
00:01:07.540 Tomorrow, South Carolina decides who sits in a Senate nomination for the Republican Party to replace Senator Lindsey Graham.
00:01:14.680 And then last night, Ennis Cantor Freedom was kicked out of a WNBA game because he supports women, of course, and the Internet.
00:01:25.420 TikTok, really.
00:01:26.260 But the Internet has already decided, has already ruled on all three.
00:01:29.100 no evidence, no oath, and of course, no idea. So here's my question. When did we start treating
00:01:36.560 feelings like verdicts? The jury box and the voting booth are the last two places
00:01:41.480 on earth in America where the likes don't count. Thank God. Thank God for that. So this week,
00:01:50.520 both rooms are open. Everything that mattered today. Let's try to be quick. Let's go. In Plymouth,
00:01:56.240 uh massachusetts a superior court the defense rested on friday closing arguments
00:02:01.180 are now and maybe before we even finish watching this so it's expert against expert in the case
00:02:07.680 right now it is psychologist for the defense psychologist for the prosecution uh psychologist
00:02:13.580 against psychologist which means it's going to go to the 12 strangers in a box the 12 jurors
00:02:18.820 thankfully as it as it should one of the psychologists were like you know uh lindsey
00:02:23.800 clancy has bad days and she has worse days yeah life is hard and if you are a woman and you've
00:02:30.400 had postpartum you know how hard it can get incredibly hard and we're going to talk a bit
00:02:36.240 about that i had postpartum with my second kid not the first one but the second one it was it
00:02:41.120 was incredibly it was harrowing it was really difficult and i have sympathy for every mom out
00:02:47.180 there who's been through the same thing but there's also a reality check we have to talk about
00:02:51.460 because the internet keeps losing the plot and losing their mind.
00:02:55.800 Here's what nobody in the courtroom is actually arguing about, okay? 0.99
00:03:01.020 Lindsay Clancy strangled her three kids.
00:03:05.340 That's what the defense is saying, okay? 1.00
00:03:08.440 She strangled them with her hands, her bare hands and exercise bands.
00:03:12.580 Her own lawyer doesn't dispute it. 0.52
00:03:15.440 The only question that the jury will have to decide will be not did she murder her kids,
00:03:20.760 she did but the only question is on criminal responsibility now to the medication story
00:03:26.920 because everyone is hung up on two things one the pills and two patrick did it that's what they're 0.51
00:03:33.000 saying which is complete horseshit but onto the medication story because everybody got online
00:03:37.860 they only had it half right as the internet always does lindsey clancy based on reporting
00:03:43.160 had roughly a dozen prescriptions testimony says she pushed to change her treatment nearly every 1.00
00:03:48.680 day. A friend testified she was weaning herself off a medication. And then, like, for example,
00:03:54.520 in the Zoloft box, the pills that she had her Zoloft prescription in, only seven pills were
00:04:00.200 missing. And by the way, Zoloft doesn't make you kill your kids, by the way. So she wasn't just a
00:04:04.760 patient. It seems apparently it was like she was her own pharmacist. Now, if you were to go into
00:04:11.360 my medical records or your medical records and you look at the prescriptions we have,
00:04:15.300 we it probably looks like we we got a pharmacy in there but we all know we don't use her all
00:04:19.940 of her medications all the time i know that i don't i have prescriptions i haven't filled 1.00
00:04:24.980 um you know but meanwhile outside the courthouse you have all these women in 1.00
00:04:28.980 in pink um the pink moms as we're gonna we're gonna call it um all the women in pink um 0.93
00:04:38.660 but really it's online where it gets really really gnarly the pink moms they're all
00:04:44.820 while standing in solidarity with a woman who murdered three of her kids under the age of six. 0.55
00:04:50.080 We're not questioning. Well, I'm not. Our side's not questioning whether she murdered it. I mean,
00:04:54.020 if it was anybody else, the defense would have said so in their arguments, and they didn't.
00:04:59.340 It was her. It wasn't anybody else. So online, there are thousands of videos
00:05:03.060 with the same verdict, like, that say that the pills did it. You know,
00:05:10.820 that's not true, because she wasn't taking all of her medication.
00:05:14.820 And, you know, she was weaning herself off medication.
00:05:18.820 But the insult is that there are tens of millions of Americans who take this kind of medication. 0.95
00:05:24.400 Lots of moms, too.
00:05:25.980 Lots of moms with postpartum.
00:05:27.120 They get up. 0.93
00:05:27.900 They get up early.
00:05:28.760 Then they get their kids up.
00:05:29.660 They pack their lunches for the children.
00:05:32.340 They take their kids to school.
00:05:34.300 They pick them up in the car line, in the carpool line.
00:05:37.560 And nobody dies.
00:05:38.780 So the pills sit at theory is an insult to every mother quietly taking her medication and raising her kids right now.
00:05:46.880 And I want to talk about the moms on TikTok who are saying, same, Lindsay, same.
00:05:52.920 If you are saying you're the same as Lindsay, are you saying that you too are going to murder your children? 0.98
00:05:58.580 Because maybe your kids should be taken away. 1.00
00:06:01.820 Taking pills or having postpartum isn't an excuse to kill your kids. 0.99
00:06:05.760 It's not.
00:06:06.320 I am really upset about the mental health system and how we don't communicate with each other and how that really put her in danger.
00:06:14.840 At some point in this country, we had something called personal and individual responsibility.
00:06:19.700 Why does a mother need to be dependent on the government to have a healthy outcome?
00:06:24.480 Why does a mother have to be dependent on the government or dependent on a hospital or dependent on a pharmacy not to kill her kids? 0.90
00:06:30.400 Since when was that the moral clarity? 1.00
00:06:32.720 but the darkest theory out there by some of these moms is that the husband did it 1.00
00:06:38.100 patrick did it for sure patrick 100 oh that man did that shit so so can you tell me why 0.99
00:06:44.180 i thought he was out of the house um this is a man who went to the store for 20 or 30 minutes 0.99
00:06:51.240 came home to find his all of his kids dead think about what that requires you to believe her own
00:06:59.560 lawyer lindsey's own lawyer stood up in that courtroom for four weeks arguing she killed them
00:07:04.020 the entire defense is that she wasn't responsible when she did kill them so to believe the husband
00:07:10.800 did it you have to believe her defense attorney forgot to mention that his client is innocent
00:07:16.180 and he didn't mercy and accountability aren't enemies and anybody who makes you pick one or
00:07:22.640 the other is trying to sell you something. So 12 strangers get that case this week. But I think
00:07:29.520 some of the most disturbing things that have come out of this are what I've seen online by moms.
00:07:35.600 I don't know if you saw this one in the tub. Take a look at this.
00:07:38.360 that mom that mom apparently throws ice in the tub so she doesn't argue with her toddler 1.00
00:07:55.100 uh was her excuse this one this one the woman is talking about how she's just like just like
00:08:02.800 lindsey see ourselves in lindsey many of us know that we could have been only one step away
00:08:11.760 from doing some of those horrific things and if you see this one this one says that she
00:08:17.820 hates all men it's the patriarchy that made lindsey do it demon you is always always us 1.00
00:08:25.880 against the men. All right. Then tomorrow, South Carolina. Well, you get one too. We have an 1.00
00:08:32.200 election. Tomorrow is the runoff for Lindsey Graham's U.S. Senate seat. It's Ralph Norman
00:08:36.460 or Darlene Graham. South Carolina hasn't had an election for a new center in over 20 years. It
00:08:42.260 was 2002 was the last, was the first time that Lindsey Graham was up for the U.S. Senate seat
00:08:47.860 when we actually had, I think, a real open primary. And I already told you where I stand.
00:08:53.520 And I'm with Ralph. OK, let me tell you why. In one word, homework. And this weekend, more videos surfaced. Darlene Graham told lawmakers this weekend that, quote, we've got a diversity inclusion committee and she wants to be a leader in it when it comes to DEI.
00:09:12.100 Darlene, Darlene, here you are in all of your DEI words.
00:09:15.860 And we've done some major things at our agency. We're working on all new policies and procedures, putting internal controls in place. We've got a diversity inclusion committee. I want to be a leader in state agency when it comes to that. We are really rebuilding.
00:09:30.340 She wants to be a leader in the state, in DEI.
00:09:35.560 DEI, Darlene, that is what we're going to call you.
00:09:38.680 I think you found your calling doing the DEI thing.
00:09:42.120 You said you wanted to be a leader in that.
00:09:43.800 If national security isn't her thing, then I guess DEI.
00:09:48.060 Tripped up last night regarding Taiwan. 0.93
00:09:53.420 She did more than trip up last week over national security. 0.99
00:09:56.420 She literally told the nation in her debate last week that national security may not be her thing.
00:10:01.440 And she tells us that in a time of war.
00:10:03.440 And yet she can tell you she'll send your sons and daughters to Tehran immediately if there's a vote on that.
00:10:12.220 So I don't know how someone can find the courage to send troops to Iran but not know where Taiwan is on a map. 0.53
00:10:21.280 And DEI, DEI, well, that's her thing. 0.71
00:10:24.780 And now her campaign says that attacking her over the DEI is attacking is attacking blind people.
00:10:30.440 It's not. And I want to be real here because it's a complete dodge.
00:10:34.680 Nobody's attacking the commission for the blind in South Carolina.
00:10:37.860 Helping blind South Carolinians find work is the mission.
00:10:40.260 And it's a good mission. But that's not what the video said.
00:10:44.020 Let's watch it again. We've got a diversity inclusion committee.
00:10:47.260 I want to be a leader in state agency when it comes to. 0.67
00:10:50.220 she wants to be a leader in DEI. DEI, Darlene. The Commission for the Blind serves people who
00:10:58.140 cannot see. It's the one workplace in America with a built-in excuse to be colorblind, Darlene. 0.95
00:11:04.780 DEI is not our thing and we don't want it in the U.S. Senate. So now on the trail,
00:11:09.080 she doesn't like the, she doesn't understand the attacks, doesn't like the attacks,
00:11:13.160 but here's another one for you so she supports flock cameras but she doesn't want to be filmed
00:11:21.820 at public events being asked questions roll the clip is your phone recording this yes 1.00
00:11:28.380 because i mean look tomorrow comes down to who shows up runoffs always do very few people vote
00:11:35.180 a rubber stamp only works on people who stay home and ralph norman he reads the bills he does the
00:11:40.600 homework and has been the same he's been the same guy for 30 years tomorrow South Carolina
00:11:47.240 be the jury and speaking of people who think applause is a verdict last night in Chicago
00:11:54.520 we finally learned the one unforgivable unforgivable crime in the WNBA it's supporting
00:12:00.800 women and it's not missing three free throws it's not getting blown out by 23 points the capital 0.91
00:12:08.000 offense is wearing a t-shirt that says woman, noun, adult, human, female. Last night wasn't
00:12:18.780 about basketball. It was about a women's league so allergic to the definition of a woman that it 0.99
00:12:23.060 had to eject a man from the game who wore a shirt supporting, you guessed it, women. If the
00:12:29.920 definition of the first letter of the WNBA and their name is too radical, then I think we need
00:12:35.420 to change the name to IDK I don't know NBA or WTF NBA maybe that would be more appropriate but
00:12:43.320 Ennis Cantor Freedom showed up courtside he cheered when Sophie Cunningham had a three and somehow
00:12:48.860 that combination of basic biology and basic manners was too much for the Chicago Sky and the
00:12:55.200 WNBA there he is former NBA center Ennis Cantor Freedom was ejected from a WNBA game between the
00:13:03.360 indiana fever and the chicago sky after a confrontation with a player freedom was on
00:13:07.740 the sidelines wearing a shirt that said quote and there you have it adult human female and
00:13:12.580 this canter freedom supporting women this is the same league that still can't publicly define the
00:13:16.780 word woman yet somehow has a crystal clear policy against against anyone who can you can rewrite
00:13:22.720 biology you can expand the definition until it means nothing but god forbid someone shows up
00:13:30.020 with the original version printed on a hundred percent cotton. And that's when the security
00:13:35.480 team gets the call. They wouldn't even tell him why he was being removed. Just you need to leave.
00:13:43.120 Freedom asked the obvious question on the way out. Do you realize you're only kicking me out because
00:13:49.040 I support women, he said. Because once you admit the shirt is the problem, the whole carefully
00:13:54.020 constructed house of cards starts to fall. And here's why I trust the box and the booth
00:13:58.700 over the TikTok feed. The feed rewards the fastest feeling. The box requires the slowest one. Jurors
00:14:06.460 have to sit there under oath and hear the part that ruins their favorite theory. Nobody on TikTok
00:14:11.420 has to hear anything. You can build a million dollar movement without once encountering a fact
00:14:15.340 you didn't order. And in Proverbs 18, the one who states his case first seems right until the other
00:14:22.040 comes and examines him. The first case got stated on TikTok in week one. They raised over a million
00:14:28.180 The examination is happening now in Plymouth in front of 12 people who can't doom scroll their way out of it.
00:14:34.980 And whatever they decide, we will have to accept the verdict, whatever it may be.
00:14:39.320 Our side is not a movement that trades the rule of law for the rule of vibes.
00:14:46.460 We leave that to the pink shirt.
00:14:48.280 So this week, let the jury work.
00:14:49.920 And tomorrow, if you live in South Carolina, do your job.
00:14:52.780 One voting booth, one ballot, one vote, one constitutional duty.
00:14:57.240 The likes don't count. There, your vote does.
00:15:00.220 And I have one ask tonight. It's the same as it is every night.
00:15:04.880 I see you're not following me. Hit the follow button now.