Get MACED - September 23, 2026


The 2009 Obama Press Ban the Media Hopes You Forgot and the Holdout Juror is in HIDING! | Nancy Mace

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00:00:00.560 Good evening, and I am Congresswoman Nancy Mace. I'm broadcasting from the great state of South Carolina tonight.
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00:00:22.360 I'm giving you a view from the inside out.
00:00:24.420 Tonight, we're going to tackle a couple of different stories, but before that, let's head into the intro.
00:00:30.000 We'll be right back.
00:01:00.000 Thank you again for tuning in tonight to Get Maced. This is my new podcast where we talk common sense and we take no prisoners here.
00:01:10.700 Tonight, we're going to talk about the White House and the press corps and the press pool.
00:01:15.200 On Friday, three outlets lost their White House press pool privileges. They lost their privileges. They didn't lose a right.
00:01:23.680 And we'll get into that. Nobody smashed the printing press. No one tried to spike a story.
00:01:27.680 not to say that that doesn't happen because trying to spike stories and spiking stories goes on
00:01:31.680 all the time in Washington, D.C. And I loathe the press, but we have freedom of the press.
00:01:40.420 So and it's important to make the distinction between a right and a privilege. And that's
00:01:45.520 what we're going to talk about tonight. Fox News went to bat for CNN, which I find interesting. But
00:01:51.180 CNN went to bat for Fox News a couple of years ago when the Obama and Biden administration
00:01:56.540 tried to target Fox News as well, saying they weren't a real news outlet, where we heard that
00:02:01.740 from. But as someone who loathes the mainstream media, I'm going to defend CNN's right to be
00:02:08.540 wrong, but I'm not going to defend their right to be in the building because that is a privilege
00:02:11.860 that is not a right. And we'll get into the difference between the two. We're going to talk
00:02:16.380 about Lindsey Clancy's attorney, Kevin Reddington. I can't get his name out of my mouth because
00:02:21.420 he continues to, I believe, really push the boundaries of decency in this country. He's now
00:02:31.420 trying to pull the lone black juror's phone records. He has targeted the only black juror,
00:02:40.400 the only presumably Republican on the jury who happens to be black. They are out. They've already 0.70
00:02:47.640 doxed him. He's in hiding right now somewhere in the Northeast. And that juror is at an
00:02:53.220 undisclosed location because he's been targeted for harassment, for doxing. They put his face
00:02:58.700 on the internet. There'll be no jokes in that segment. And, you know, we'll get to that and
00:03:04.760 prayers for that man. But one thing I want you to keep in mind tonight, I want you to keep this
00:03:10.280 question in your pocket all night is what do you actually have a right to and what are you just
00:03:17.820 what do you have a right to and what are you just what are you just used to um so on friday
00:03:26.320 president trump announced he was going to ban cnn ms now and politico from the white house
00:03:34.580 press pool. And the sated reason, he said, was because of negative news coverage. Now,
00:03:41.200 I sympathize with President Trump on this. I don't think that's the right reason to ban them
00:03:45.780 for negative news coverage. Three major news outlets have been banned from the White House,
00:03:50.460 one day after President Trump said he was kicking out CNN, MSNOW, and Politico. On Saturday morning,
00:03:56.720 journalists from all three news outlets tried to go to work at the White House complex.
00:04:00.620 All three were denied entry. Their press passes were confiscated.
00:04:04.760 And now lawyers for the news outlets are working on next steps.
00:04:08.620 Legal action is expected in the coming.
00:04:11.240 On Saturday, these reporters were turned away from the gate of the White House.
00:04:16.340 And by Sunday night, White House guidance dropped CNN from Monday's TV pool slot.
00:04:21.860 CNN was scheduled to cover the president's U.N. trip this week.
00:04:26.000 And all five networks suspended their pool coverage.
00:04:28.920 So Fox News jumped in and other networks jumped in, ABC, NBC, CBS. Everybody jumped in to suspend their pool coverage. They weren't going to give pool coverage to the president. There was no replacement pool. And Fox News jumped in. It was the D.C. bureau chief that chimed in as the acting acting chair of the TV pool.
00:04:46.240 So they they decided to band together to defend CNN, MSNOW and Politico and what they believe is a right.
00:04:55.240 And I believe it's a privilege. Courts have disagreed in the past.
00:05:01.060 The three banned outlets are claiming this. This is a First Amendment right to protect our First Amendment rights and defend the principle that the government does not decide what the press reports or publishes.
00:05:14.080 Well, the First Amendment guarantees the freedom of speech. It guarantees freedom of the press. It guarantees freedom of religion, assembly, and petition. That is the basis for the First Amendment. It doesn't give you the automatic right to have a badge to go into the White House.
00:05:30.820 For whatever reason the president wants to ban these networks from the White House, I believe he has that right. I believe that other presidents have that right. So this is the position I will have now and going forward.
00:05:44.180 And so if the precedent is we can ban news networks from the press pool and from the White House, I expect the next Democrat president to follow suit and, you know, share that precedent. Obama tried to do it in 2009, and that's when CNN stepped in to defend Fox News.
00:06:01.940 But the First Amendment also protects people from government interference as well.
00:06:08.120 So, you know, I'm going to argue, and if I were an attorney and I'd gone to law school and I were in a courtroom, in this case, I would argue on the merits of rights versus privileges and what that means.
00:06:19.560 And so what the president has done, it doesn't limit CNN from never writing a story about him again.
00:06:24.860 It doesn't limit their First Amendment right.
00:06:26.580 It doesn't limit their freedom of the press.
00:06:29.880 They are free to write whatever they want.
00:06:31.760 They can send questions into the comms team at the White House.
00:06:36.940 They can request interviews.
00:06:38.660 They can do all those things.
00:06:39.920 There's nothing limiting them from taking public statements of the White House and then
00:06:44.200 writing stories about it.
00:06:45.800 I get the president's, you know, anger toward the press.
00:06:50.120 I get it.
00:06:50.840 I have had so many negative headlines.
00:06:53.060 I've got to turn my phone ringer off.
00:06:54.760 I've had so many negative headlines that are just flat out false and not true.
00:06:58.000 Most of them are not true.
00:06:59.200 And there's really nothing you can do about it as a public figure because all these things are, quote, alleged.
00:07:04.240 And we went into this last night. If you didn't see my segment on Lauren Boebert and the horrible allegations against her that I are vehemently false.
00:07:12.320 She responded over the weekend and I responded last night. But that's just a few handful of examples that, you know, I get it.
00:07:21.380 I mean, and it happens to both Republicans and Democrats alike. I think it happens to Republicans more frequently.
00:07:26.380 There's been some data on that, particularly to President Trump, whether you like him or not.
00:07:31.240 The deck is stacked against him in the mainstream press.
00:07:34.720 He could say the sky is blue and they would say, oh, my gosh, the sky is purple.
00:07:38.320 But he said it was blue. They would they go nuts.
00:07:41.680 And so that's the thing.
00:07:44.340 And so they put out a joint statement that no administration should restrict a news organization because it objects to its reporting.
00:07:49.600 Well, it was just an announcement that the White House decided.
00:07:52.380 You know what, CNN, MSN, MSNOW, maybe the New York Times was included, you just can't
00:08:04.660 come to the White House press briefings anymore because you're giving the current president
00:08:12.100 unfavorable coverage.
00:08:13.820 I'm trying to think what would have happened if I had said, you know what, Fox News, you're
00:08:18.700 out of here.
00:08:19.700 I believe it was Obama in 2009.
00:08:21.500 the clip but it was the obama administration in 2009 that tried to kick fox news out saying fox
00:08:26.620 news was basically fake news it wasn't real news but it was political news well all news is political
00:08:31.580 news these days so uh but he tried to do it he said obama set the precedent so now the white
00:08:37.260 house lists real america's voice as the backup travel pool and the five majors won't touch that
00:08:44.220 fee they're not going to give real america's voice the time of day that's probably the biggest media
00:08:48.540 a promotion in American history at the White House. So congratulations to Real America's
00:08:53.320 Voice for at least temporarily getting the press pool coverage. My position is that nobody's
00:09:00.600 been, no one's been censored here. CNN, Politico, and MSNOW still have the right to all of their
00:09:08.520 publishing, you know, all of their First Amendment rights under the freedom of the press and the
00:09:13.680 First Amendment. They have all of those rights. None of those rights were taken away. It does
00:09:17.320 not say white house press badge in the constitution under the first amendment it does not say that
00:09:22.780 that did not exist at the time okay so it's not a constitutional argument in my opinion
00:09:28.420 um they can still publish stories trashing the president and republicans all day long they're
00:09:33.860 very good at it nothing is banning them from doing that number one um they're not censored
00:09:39.920 okay so that's a whole nother bag of uh that's a whole nother bag we should actually talk about
00:09:45.940 because I believe both administrations, Republican and Democrat,
00:09:49.880 all administrations are working with our tech companies to censor you, to censor content.
00:09:54.180 That is not limited to Democrat administrations.
00:09:56.800 But the First Amendment protects what you report, how you publish.
00:10:02.340 Your sources are protected.
00:10:04.340 It doesn't guarantee a seat in the White House.
00:10:07.280 It doesn't guarantee a parking space in the West Wing.
00:10:12.780 That's not a First Amendment right.
00:10:15.940 You know, you're conflating these things.
00:10:18.520 The hard passes, it's a privilege that it's not a right.
00:10:20.800 That's the argument here.
00:10:22.440 Who cares about negative coverage?
00:10:23.860 I mean, I care, but that's not a constitutional argument.
00:10:28.940 And that's the way I would be looking at it right now.
00:10:30.880 In 2009, Obama's Treasury tried to cut Fox News out of the press pool
00:10:36.000 with interviews with Pazar, Ken Feinberg,
00:10:39.400 and the other four networks refused to go in without Fox.
00:10:42.780 So there is a precedent, and I respect it, that the press has banded together and supported one another so that they could be in the press pool.
00:10:49.840 So then Fox got his seat back. Obama wasn't able to kick him out. He tried.
00:10:58.620 If you cheered when Obama attempted to do this, spare me the constitutional seminar. I don't want to hear it.
00:11:05.840 the obama communication shop branded fox news an arm of the republican party and said it wasn't
00:11:14.780 news said it was fake news the pool defended fox in 2009 and the pool is now defending cnn in 2026
00:11:21.840 the same pool the same job some of the same reporters the pundits who cheered them and
00:11:26.780 who cheered them on then and grieve today failed the test conversations not edicts not orders
00:11:35.300 this is complicated but harm reduction is possible harm reduction is possible by adding more news and 0.72
00:11:42.880 less opinion to the content harm reduction is possible by pushing some of the q anon craziness
00:11:48.300 out of your news feed on facebook this is not ultimately about freedom of speech it's about 0.99
00:11:54.400 freedom of reach you failed because you're a hypocrite so did the ones grieving then and 1.00
00:12:01.080 cheering now. All of them hypocrites. So have a standard, keep the standard. It should be a 1.00
00:12:07.400 constitutional standard. On Monday, I cheered, excuse me, on Monday, I agreed with St. Quigar.
00:12:12.700 On Tuesday, I'm partially defending the press. I'm not defending their right, their privilege to
00:12:17.660 the White House. I'm defending their right to the First Amendment and freedom of the press. So if I
00:12:23.980 endorse kale and raw okra by Wednesday, somebody do a wellness check on me, please.
00:12:31.080 In 2023, the Biden White House tightened the press pass rules.
00:12:38.240 They went from credentials from 1,417 to 975.
00:12:43.660 And guess what kind of media outlets took the brunt of those credentials being rebutted, being reversed.
00:12:52.620 Those 440 passes namely went to conservative reporters.
00:12:56.920 They took a heavy share of those over 400 press passes that were declined.
00:13:01.580 Those credentials were declined in the Biden administration.
00:13:04.360 So they didn't call it a First Amendment issue back then, but all of a sudden it is now when President Trump wants to limit the number of press in the press room at the White House.
00:13:14.500 So a credential rule is what it was called, not an outlet ban, marketed under a different name.
00:13:20.400 Um, this White House is the first White House in history who has selected, uh, pool, who's taken
00:13:28.460 pool, press pool selection away from the Correspondents Association. I kind of say good
00:13:33.540 for Trump on this. Um, finding more fair-minded media, more podcaster type of media, new media,
00:13:41.260 um, they have a microphone and they are reporting more fairly. You can't get a fair shake as a
00:13:46.340 conservative on mainstream media. It's very hard, unless you sympathize with one of their
00:13:50.500 causes. That's the only time you get a fair shake. So it's the first administration to
00:13:56.040 pick its own pool. And I say good for President Trump on that. CNN has spelled my name wrong
00:14:02.600 twice while I've been live on air, and I still go on. I don't fault them for it.
00:14:08.900 My take is a little bit different. I feel that even on leftist-leaning networks,
00:14:14.260 the people deserve to hear our side they deserve to hear the truth they deserve to hear it from
00:14:21.320 someone who will not filter it and you've got to hear different perspectives because we all live
00:14:26.440 in this bubble and i think that the american people deserve to hear all sides and not just
00:14:32.360 be in a one-sided bubble but the correspondence association presidents of fox news report he
00:14:37.360 pointed out the case law case law is actually against the president uh once the white house
00:14:42.060 grants access. Courts have generally held it can't be yanked arbitrarily or over the content
00:14:50.160 of the coverage. It can't be yanked because of negative news coverage. That's how the courts
00:14:56.420 have handled this. So I expect that the court will rule, even though it's a Trump-appointed judge,
00:15:01.140 my expectation is that the courts will rule against President Trump on this because of
00:15:05.520 what he stated in that tweet, that it was over negative coverage as opposed to constitutional
00:15:10.580 rights versus privileges. So, but the roles and precedent will be set. Whatever this White House
00:15:16.160 can do to CNN, the next White House can do to Fox News. So the precedent is being set and it runs
00:15:22.120 in both directions. Now we're going to talk about the lone juror. On Monday, the filings were made
00:15:34.240 public, the defense filings, Kevin Reddington, Lindsay Clancy's attorney, has requested the
00:15:41.600 private phone records of the lone black Republican juror who refused to find Lindsay Clancy innocent
00:15:50.520 of murder. They have now doxed him. They've named him. And I won't put his name up. I'm
00:15:56.360 going to show his photo of this beautiful newborn baby that he gave to the media outlets.
00:16:00.620 but they want his phone and text records um every day of the day of deliberation now they're not
00:16:07.840 asking for the other jurors who allegedly pressured some of the last few holdouts he's
00:16:15.680 not asking for those jurors text messages private text messages and phone communications just the
00:16:21.040 black one just the black man because he wouldn't go along to get along holdout juror in the lindsey
00:16:27.860 Clancy murder trial is speaking out this morning for the first time since the mistrial. He says 0.89
00:16:32.000 his views were misrepresented by his fellow jurors. In a statement, the juror said, I didn't
00:16:38.600 have any doubts. As I tried to explain different possible theories during deliberation, I kept
00:16:43.080 getting cut off as if I had doubts based on the evidence presented. Based on all the physical
00:16:48.260 evidence, key witnesses and what the prosecution presented, I thought it was enough proof that she
00:16:52.960 knew exactly what she was doing and planned. This, to me, sets a very frightening and terrifying
00:16:59.580 judicial precedent. This juror, you know, one juror says he was scrolling through videos,
00:17:09.460 doesn't mention if they were on a break or eating lunch or whatever. So basically what
00:17:13.800 Reddington, basically what I believe Reddington is trying to do is get the trial dismissed on
00:17:18.880 double jeopardy. He wants to get the whole case dismissed. He's going to try to find some way
00:17:24.620 that this juror did something wrong and ignore the improper behavior of the other jurors.
00:17:30.540 The lone juror, lone black juror said the other jurors were more like activists. The majority of
00:17:35.480 them were more like activists than jurors and were operating that way. So there's going to be no
00:17:39.900 obviously discussion, debate or research or pleadings about the activist jurors, just the
00:17:48.880 man. That's it. And I've told y'all, I think that the left, these white privileged leftists
00:17:55.360 are the most racist group in the country, especially liberal white women. My complaint, 0.97
00:18:02.360 you know, his name and his photo were surfaced on social media. Kevin Reddington's wife,
00:18:07.020 who's Lindsay Clancy's attorney, got in on smashing the lone juror online. A newspaper
00:18:14.820 Paper printed his name and death threats followed.
00:18:17.620 This guy has had to go into hiding.
00:18:19.580 He heard. He felt that she was guilty and felt that at the time she was not, or I should say not guilty for a reason of insanity.
00:18:30.940 He felt that she was sane when she did it. And that's exactly what he told me.
00:18:35.580 Okay, what about the reasonable doubt part? Did he did he mention to you? Because that's what they say.
00:18:41.520 He and his wife left their home for an undisclosed location in New England. This is crazy. And it's terrifying to me that this passes for a court system is like a kangaroo court.
00:18:55.580 I'm not going to say his name. The Democrats on the left have doxed this guy. I'm going to show his photo. Through his lawyer, he said that his client, the lone black juror, had no doubts. And other jurors have gone on television against him, outing him and making statements about him.
00:19:14.740 Mere strangers have raised over $350,000 for him and his wife.
00:19:19.360 And a jury vote now comes down to a manhunt and a fundraiser.
00:19:23.420 And I just, you know, to me that this is setting a very dangerous precedent that as a juror,
00:19:30.860 this guy wasn't, he didn't want to be there.
00:19:33.020 He didn't ask to be there.
00:19:33.960 He didn't ask to be, he didn't ask to be on the jury.
00:19:38.000 This is not what he asked for. 0.71
00:19:39.180 He didn't ask for his life to be threatened, but this is what the left did to a black man. 0.77
00:19:42.440 This is basically a modern day lynching of a lone black juror. It was Democrats that were pro-slavery. Also, it was Democrats that started the KKK. And now Democrats are figuratively lynching the only black juror on the Lindsey Clancy case. That's what this is. This is a modern day lynching of this guy.
00:20:05.800 I don't know if he's had to quit his job. I don't know how anybody can afford to go through what he's going through right now. How do you do that? $350,000 is not enough for this guy. And, you know, his vote to me, his vote was right. Contrary to Lindsay Clancy's attorney, I did follow along with the case as I could. And although I wasn't in the courtroom, neither were Patrick Clancy's kids. They'll never be in that courtroom. They'll never get the last word like you will, Kevin Reddington, on behalf of your client.
00:20:35.560 So last night, jury duty is the one job that the government can compel you to do.
00:20:42.060 You don't get to say no.
00:20:43.540 You have to show up. 0.57
00:20:45.700 So the lone black juror answered the summons. 0.82
00:20:49.620 He showed up. 0.71
00:20:51.900 And if answering honestly in a jury trial ends with a man hiding, going into hiding out of his own state, the next holdout folds on day one.
00:21:05.560 folds in a few hours nobody wants to go through this sort of thing but that is the danger that
00:21:12.880 i believe is the psychosis going on on the left i'm in the middle of drafting an op-ed about this
00:21:17.360 but you know it's not lindsey clancy's psychosis it is the psychosis of the democrat party it's
00:21:24.800 the psychosis of the modern leftist they're coming for me the right wingers they put voices in my
00:21:31.840 head it's a conspiracy i have to resist today and i've gotten in some debates with people about
00:21:37.280 liberalism versus leftism i think that's an honest debate but most people don't see the difference
00:21:44.180 right now because it's all coddled on one side um no one's gonna do no one's gonna you know
00:21:54.320 no one's gonna vote guilty if this is the outcome that you get that you get pushed out of your own
00:22:01.220 home. You can't even live in your own home. There will never be a guilty verdict again in
00:22:06.640 Massachusetts if the answer is if you are the lone guy voting guilty, you can't live safely.
00:22:15.420 You can't live freely. You have to move out of your home. You have to move out of state
00:22:20.300 to keep your family alive. That's where we are today. That's where the racist left is gone
00:22:25.320 with this thing last last line i defended patrick clancy from internet detectives he didn't kill
00:22:31.700 his kids uh and you are if you think so um the same rule goes tonight for a juror plenty of
00:22:39.480 people are furious at um fight it in the courtroom on the 29th of september get the woman a retrial
00:22:45.120 it's going to be what it's going to be hopefully it's it won't be the death penalty because they
00:22:48.720 don't have that in massachusetts but leave the juror leave the jurors out of it tonight was
00:22:55.100 about the difference between rights and privileges and duties the press has a right to report the
00:23:00.860 press has the right to publish a pool seat is a privilege it is not a right and that is the
00:23:07.920 argument privileges come and go they come and go and that's what this is about but the juror
00:23:14.420 the lone black juror he had neither he had a duty the one thing he had was a duty he was required 0.61
00:23:22.700 to be there the one thing in this country you can be summoned to that you're required to do 0.73
00:23:26.780 is jury duty you can't get out of it if they pick you rights have lawyers privileges have lawyers
00:23:36.700 duties duties just have you a juror showed up for a summons he never agreed to
00:23:42.860 and never asked for and voted in what he believed in which was the truth he's now in hiding
00:23:49.900 nobody throws a parade for unglamorous jobs and unglamorous people the whole system runs on
00:23:56.760 people doing their job anyway just like that juror did i see you're not following me hit the follow
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