Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - May 16, 2018


Ep 130 | This Year In Jerusalem | Get Off My Lawn


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This week, we have a jam-packed episode featuring all the news and gossip you could ever need. We have a special guest on the show to talk about the Trump administration, and we have an interview with a woman who has finally realized that being childless sucks. We also have a new trailer for the new Queen album and a new movie about Freddie Mercury's AIDS.

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00:00:51.000 That was One Way System.
00:00:56.000 Punk band from the northwest of England, north of London there.
00:01:02.000 I have no idea what that song means, by the way.
00:01:04.000 I think it's derogatory towards the land.
00:01:07.000 I guess they had a bad time there.
00:01:08.000 The punks ain't punks, but they wear the right clothes.
00:01:12.000 What does he say here?
00:01:13.000 They all think they know how to pose.
00:01:15.000 Opinions don't matter in Jerusalem as long as you wear the right clothes.
00:01:20.000 This is a song from the 80s, so it's obviously not aware of what's going on out there in Israel today, where the Jews are very happy with our boy Trump.
00:01:31.000 I don't know why the Jews in America aren't happy with our boy Trump.
00:01:34.000 a disproportionate number of them are anti-Trump.
00:01:36.000 I think it's because I think it's because they're traumatized by the alpha male and they hate the idea of the jock that bullied them in high school or something.
00:01:50.000 And he represents capitalism and, you know, the non-gentle pursuits.
00:01:57.000 I don't know.
00:01:58.000 He is, maybe because he's anti-intellectual.
00:02:02.000 I heard one theory from my Jewish friend, Brian, who said, they think Protestants hate them and rich Jews want to emulate Protestants. 0.52
00:02:09.000 It's never made any sense to me.
00:02:10.000 And I would always scream at them. 1.00
00:02:12.000 I'd say, right now, all his children who are old enough to be having sex are having sex with a Jewish person. 1.00
00:02:20.000 This is not a Nazi. 1.00
00:02:22.000 But you know the narrative.
00:02:24.000 We have a jam-packed show for you today.
00:02:27.000 I'm going to have to squeeze in a tight intro here.
00:02:29.000 We have Ram Rance, Richard Armand Mills, who's been all over Michael Avante and exposing him.
00:02:38.000 And I think it's interesting because you look at the accusations.
00:02:41.000 This is Stormy Daniels' lawyer, obviously.
00:02:43.000 You look at the accusation against her lawyer, and he declared bankruptcy.
00:02:47.000 He failed to pay people.
00:02:50.000 That's everything Trump's being accused of.
00:02:52.000 So am I hypocritical for criticizing Avanti for that?
00:02:56.000 No, I'm asking you to not be hypocritical and say, why is Trump the enemy because of all these transgressions in the past?
00:03:04.000 Yet you're so desperate to pillory him that you'll take any Tom, Dick, and Harry, including someone clearly guilty of the same allegations you're making of Trump.
00:03:16.000 Yeah, but he's the president.
00:03:18.000 Yeah, but you're talking about someone taking down the president.
00:03:20.000 Anyway, it's complicated.
00:03:21.000 Ram does all the homework, and then I just get him to show me his notes.
00:03:24.000 I cheat that way.
00:03:26.000 We also have Michael J. Knowles from Daily Wire, where the lovely Ben Shapiro is the editor.
00:03:32.000 And we're going to talk to him about trans stuff and how you're in a situation now where you could have a woman who identifies as a man and a man who identifies as a woman getting together to make a baby and then using their normal parts, which is just a relationship.
00:03:49.000 You've got a tomboy and an effeminate man.
00:03:51.000 Basically, you have Joan Jett dating David Bowie.
00:03:56.000 It's just rock stars hanging out.
00:04:00.000 And then we're going to talk to this woman, Melanie Notkin, about being childless.
00:04:04.000 She's now almost 50 and she's realized the feminists were wrong. 0.97
00:04:08.000 I wish I had kids. 0.99
00:04:08.000 This sucks. 0.99
00:04:10.000 And it's rare women admit this because their brains have been hardwired to be positive. 1.00
00:04:15.000 The glass is always half full.
00:04:17.000 So if you read about being a single mom, being childless, being bankrupt, being divorced, from a woman's perspective, it's almost always, this is badass.
00:04:26.000 This rocks.
00:04:27.000 And she's finally going, it actually doesn't rock. 0.99
00:04:29.000 It sucks, rocks.
00:04:31.000 But speaking of rock stars, I want to talk briefly about some movies coming up that look interesting. 0.98
00:04:36.000 You got that trailer for the new Queen movie?
00:04:38.000 *Ey-oh*
00:04:48.000 So this was supposed to be Sasha Baron Cohen, but they said, we don't want you to make out Freddie Mercury was gay.
00:04:57.000 Yeah.
00:04:59.000 Boy, they did have some jam, did they not?
00:05:05.000 trailer rocks.
00:05:06.000 *music*
00:05:12.000 Oh, that looked like two dudes getting together.
00:05:13.000 Killer creep.
00:05:16.000 Just gotta get out.
00:05:17.000 Just gotta get right.
00:05:19.000 Killer creep. 0.99
00:05:22.000 Freddie Mercury, the Iranian homosexual who died of AIDS. 1.00
00:05:27.000 Everyone in.
00:05:29.000 This is when the operatic section comes in.
00:05:31.000 Oh, the operatic section, yeah.
00:05:33.000 Mamma mia, mamma mia! 0.99
00:05:37.000 Mamma mia, let me go, Fia! 1.00
00:05:40.000 So, um, Sasha Baron Cohen said, I'd love to do it.
00:05:46.000 I could do Freddie Mercury.
00:05:47.000 I'm Semitic.
00:05:48.000 He's Jewish.
00:05:49.000 Freddie's Arab from Iran. 0.97
00:05:52.000 But I obviously have to talk about and portray his raging homosexuality and his AIDS. 0.98
00:05:57.000 And the band said, no, we don't like that.
00:05:59.000 Because, you know, we're a rock band and we weren't known as a gay band.
00:06:02.000 It's sort of like Judas Priest.
00:06:04.000 No one knew Rob Halford was gay.
00:06:06.000 Although some of us did.
00:06:07.000 Remember Heavy Metal Parking Lot where she goes, Glenn Tipton, you rock?
00:06:10.000 Rob Halford don't know about you.
00:06:13.000 So Sasha Baron Cohen said, well, then I'm out.
00:06:15.000 He can afford to pick and choose.
00:06:17.000 But they did this here.
00:06:18.000 So I'll be interested to see if they include the homosexuality because it's a crucial part of Queen. 1.00
00:06:22.000 He was obsessed with opera.
00:06:24.000 Sid Vicious used to make fun of him all the time.
00:06:26.000 He actually, Sid Vicious crashed one of their recording studios and said, wait, I have to exhale to do Sato.
00:06:33.000 So I'm spreading opera to the world going, Freddie.
00:06:38.000 And Freddie Mercury, when Freddie Mercury tells the story, he goes, I got his name wrong.
00:06:42.000 Ooh, nice comeback, Fred.
00:06:45.000 So that looks awesome.
00:06:46.000 Assuming they're honest about it, including the fact that a gay man infiltrated hard rock, I'd call it. 0.99
00:06:52.000 Yeah, classical rock.
00:06:54.000 Classical rock.
00:06:55.000 It was kind of classical rock.
00:06:57.000 But here's another trailer.
00:06:57.000 Classic rock.
00:06:59.000 I am dying to see.
00:07:01.000 June 1st, I believe it comes out.
00:07:03.000 It's called Upgrade, and it's about a guy who's paraplegic, and they put a chip in him that can make him walk again, but it's the chip doing all the work.
00:07:12.000 Well, I'll let you watch it.
00:07:14.000 Death Wish sucked, by the way. 0.93
00:07:17.000 Must be frustrating for you. 0.95
00:07:18.000 Someone who likes to get things done with their hands.
00:07:24.000 Here's the thing.
00:07:25.000 Four guys murdered my wife.
00:07:27.000 Can you just pause it here?
00:07:31.000 I'm sick of people killing kids in movies.
00:07:32.000 They do it all the time.
00:07:34.000 It's a cheap way to elicit empathy and get us to jump in.
00:07:38.000 Some reason, though, it's not as bad with the wife.
00:07:41.000 Does that mean we'd rather have our wife study? 1.00
00:07:45.000 When it's the kids, you projectile vomit and then lie on the bathroom floor crying. 1.00
00:07:49.000 When they kill the guy's wife in it, you're like, those dicks, go get them back. 1.00
00:07:55.000 After a brief period of mourning, like Larry David said, if my wife died, you know, I would cry. 1.00
00:08:00.000 He said this to his wife.
00:08:01.000 They got divorced soon after.
00:08:03.000 I would cry for about a year, but after a brief period of mourning, I'd get on with my life.
00:08:08.000 So perfect.
00:08:09.000 Not too much carnage from the beginning, but enough to make us go, whoever did that to you, I hope you get revenge.
00:08:16.000 Revenge is key to this show, by the way.
00:08:22.000 What if it's a rich void guy, man?
00:08:24.000 What if I told you I could offer you something that would enable you to walk again?
00:08:29.000 I call it STEM.
00:08:30.000 A computer chip that has a lot of things.
00:08:32.000 He's a technology to change everything.
00:08:34.000 It's a new better brain.
00:08:38.000 It's Tom Hardy, right?
00:08:39.000 I am STEM.
00:08:41.000 Oh, sorry, pause it.
00:08:43.000 Look at him drop the crutches there.
00:08:45.000 This must be happening in Palestine. 1.00
00:08:47.000 Today I saw a video of Palestinians dancing around with no crutches.
00:08:52.000 They must have this upgrade.
00:08:53.000 All right, go back to the trailer.
00:08:55.000 There it is.
00:08:55.000 I am STEM.
00:08:57.000 The system operating your body for you.
00:09:01.000 Can anybody else hear you? 0.98
00:09:02.000 All men fantasize about kicking the crap out of bad guys who mess with them. 0.99
00:09:06.000 In the drone surveillance footage. 0.97
00:09:08.000 Sir Brantner, Marine Corps.
00:09:10.000 Address 414 Citrus Newgrounds.
00:09:13.000 Can they hear this?
00:09:14.000 I don't hear it very loud.
00:09:15.000 I'm fine with that.
00:09:16.000 This doesn't seem like a well-thought-out plan.
00:09:23.000 I need your permission to operate independently.
00:09:25.000 Permission granted!
00:09:27.000 Thank you.
00:09:29.000 This is another thing, too, that's brilliant about this movie.
00:09:31.000 And there was another movie with Russell Crowe, where he breaks his wife out of prison.
00:09:37.000 Yeah, there it is. 0.98
00:09:47.000 Let's all, all of us, today, guys, go to your local Hells Angel clubhouse, call one of them a fag, and then see how well you do with your little flips and your kicks. 1.00
00:09:57.000 Go sneak into one of their houses and see how well you beat them up. 0.96
00:10:00.000 It's hard beating someone up when all things are considered equal.
00:10:05.000 This is not equal. 0.98
00:10:06.000 So he goes to kill the guy for killing his wife, and the guy is about to kill him. 0.93
00:10:10.000 But then he uses his computer chip.
00:10:13.000 The chip can override your own skills.
00:10:16.000 Check it out.
00:10:17.000 *Dramatic music*
00:10:31.000 Stay down, man.
00:10:33.000 Baby's gonna do it! 1.00
00:10:39.000 Okay, that's men.
00:10:41.000 How amazing does that look?
00:10:43.000 Men are not very complicated. 0.98
00:10:45.000 We just want a reason to kill someone. 0.92
00:10:50.000 Like, we don't want to just walk down the street and go bonk to someone. 0.96
00:10:53.000 That's not satisfying.
00:10:54.000 But we want, I always used to say in college, I was like, can't someone just slap my mom?
00:11:00.000 Sorry, mom, that's terrible.
00:11:02.000 But like, every time I've been in a fight, it's over someone spilling someone else's, some chick's water and then him thinking that it was you and then it gets out of hand.
00:11:10.000 Like your heart's never in it. 0.96
00:11:12.000 It's always some dumb thing, but usually a drunk chick. 1.00
00:11:15.000 But you want like real rage. 1.00
00:11:19.000 Please don't go kill my wife. 1.00
00:11:20.000 How are we doing for time here?
00:11:24.000 Okay, we got to stop.
00:11:24.000 Let's start the show.
00:11:25.000 Let's start with Ram Rance and a man whose name advocates for Adderall.
00:11:35.000 Ram, are you there?
00:11:37.000 Yes, I am, Gavin.
00:11:38.000 How's it going?
00:11:39.000 Good.
00:11:39.000 You know, whenever I'm feeling down and I'm having trouble concentrating, people say, Avenatti.
00:11:45.000 And I go, I'm not going to take Adderall.
00:11:47.000 It's really bad for you.
00:11:48.000 And you've been researching Avenatti, and apparently it's even worse than we think.
00:11:53.000 Oh, very much so.
00:11:54.000 Here it is.
00:11:55.000 Michael Avenatti, the lawyer of Stormy Daniels, has been on cable news over 100 times, okay?
00:12:02.000 And not once, here it is, this man is seeking to take down the United States president.
00:12:06.000 And not one of these cable news outlets have even asked him about his like past history as a lawyer, any of his business dealings as an entrepreneur.
00:12:16.000 They haven't asked him about any of his connections to foreign entities and diplomats.
00:12:23.000 And it's just insane.
00:12:24.000 And so, you know, I've been doing a little bit of research.
00:12:27.000 Other people have been doing a little bit of research.
00:12:29.000 And we've kind of put it together.
00:12:30.000 And I mean, it's come out that this guy is not at all who he says he is.
00:12:34.000 You know, the media tries to put him on TV like he's some pillar of justice.
00:12:38.000 And here it is. 0.98
00:12:39.000 He's a fraud. 0.73
00:12:40.000 I mean, he's got lots of debts owed to landlords in Seattle. 0.82
00:12:45.000 He's got businesses that he has just like, like, you know, he owned a coffee business and he didn't pay a lot of the vendors.
00:12:53.000 His shops were literally running out of coffee.
00:12:54.000 This is, you know, something that was reported on the news.
00:12:58.000 And he basically, his law firm went bankrupt.
00:13:02.000 He, you know, screwed partners out of millions and then settled for way less than he was supposed to pay them.
00:13:08.000 And none of these media outlets, not CNN, MSNBC, they just, none of them have asked him about it.
00:13:13.000 It's nuts.
00:13:14.000 They're just so excited to have someone who's bothering Trump that they'll take anyone.
00:13:20.000 Yes.
00:13:21.000 A total criminal, anyone.
00:13:23.000 Yeah, it doesn't even matter what his reputation is.
00:13:26.000 And that's the thing that's crazy to me.
00:13:27.000 It's like, here it is.
00:13:28.000 This guy is a lawyer and his last law firm that had his name on it, it was Egan and Avenati, it went bankrupt.
00:13:37.000 And he, you know, he just actually settled the bankruptcy less than two months ago.
00:13:43.000 And what it was was his partner actually sued him for not being paid about $18 million, you know, just a little small amount there.
00:13:51.000 And he settled this bankruptcy for $4.85 million to be paid within 120 days.
00:13:59.000 And so this is a person who's been reported to have a $40,000 a month monthly expenses.
00:14:05.000 Okay.
00:14:06.000 And here it is.
00:14:07.000 He keeps talking about how the case for Stormy is actually being crowdfunded, but that hasn't even, the goal for that hasn't even been met yet.
00:14:16.000 So he clearly isn't getting, you know, these massive debts of his and, you know, these fees and unpaid bills compensated by the Stormy Daniels case.
00:14:25.000 And so when people ask who pays Avenatti, we're asking who's paying these massive debts?
00:14:30.000 Who's taking care of these unpaid, you know, like collectors and these people that have been trying to come after this man since December?
00:14:37.000 It wasn't even that long ago.
00:14:39.000 Well, in some cases, like we hear Trump get criticized for having bankruptcies and we hear Trump get criticized for settling debts at a fraction of the cost.
00:14:48.000 But this was all above board.
00:14:50.000 We've heard about it a million times.
00:14:52.000 There's explanations for all of it and we know the money came from Trump.
00:14:56.000 In the case of have an Adderall, we don't know anything about like where is the money coming from?
00:15:03.000 Exactly.
00:15:04.000 And so that leads me to kind of some new information that I came upon yesterday.
00:15:10.000 When Avenati was doing his racing, he does professional racing.
00:15:15.000 It's kind of, it seems like a hobby.
00:15:17.000 But when he was doing his professional racing back in 2015, one of his racing partners was actually Saudi Prince Abdulaziz bin Turkey al-Sahd.
00:15:28.000 I'm impressed.
00:15:29.000 Yeah.
00:15:29.000 And his father is actually Prince Turkey.
00:15:32.000 And, you know, I mean, there's a lot of Saudi princes, but these are not just like your average like Saudi royalty family members.
00:15:39.000 These guys have money from oil, but they also get tons of money at Thanksgiving, don't they?
00:15:44.000 Yeah, they do.
00:15:46.000 No, but Prince Turkey.
00:15:47.000 They own Butterball.
00:15:52.000 I haven't heard that, but I wouldn't be surprised.
00:15:55.000 I mean, they do have deep ties within the U.S., you know, within basically like our government and our businesses.
00:16:02.000 And I mean, Prince Turkey was actually Saudi Arabia intelligence for 24 years, which his career in that ended with September 11th, actually.
00:16:12.000 So, and the reason that it ended with September 11th is because there were people accusing him and people like Prince Alwaleed Talal of actually funding al-Qaeda.
00:16:24.000 And so with these kind of accusations, I do believe that he's been sued as well.
00:16:30.000 These people are actually have ties to terrorism.
00:16:32.000 And so these are the people that Avenati was, you know, basically associating with in 2015.
00:16:39.000 And so there was a person, Abdullah al-Salay, who actually tweeted about this a few days ago in Arabic.
00:16:48.000 He tweeted that he believes that Prince Al-Walid Talal is actually financing Michael Avenatti.
00:16:55.000 And while there aren't any proof, like while there isn't any like substantial proof to, you know, actually validate these claims, it's definitely not totally impossible or implausible, you know what I mean?
00:17:10.000 This guy is starting to sound like Ratzo Rizzo from that night cowboy.
00:17:14.000 Like he's a little New York street hustler.
00:17:17.000 He is. 0.99
00:17:18.000 I mean, he just seems like a crook. 0.96
00:17:20.000 I mean, even his wife in December kicked him out of their house and changed the locks of the door. 0.86
00:17:25.000 And I mean, that's like, you know, to keep him away.
00:17:28.000 And I mean, I just, I feel like that says a lot.
00:17:30.000 No one's talking to her.
00:17:32.000 And, you know, the thing that needs to be pointed out, the thing that really I think, the reason why I think it's so important to pay attention to all these details about Avenatti's past is because here it is, you know, he's representing Stormy Daniels.
00:17:45.000 He's seeking to take down the president.
00:17:48.000 He claims that, you know, he's going to be the cause of the president's resignation before his term is over.
00:17:53.000 And the truth is he doesn't seem to have really substantial facts to actually take down the president.
00:17:59.000 And when you're seeking to do something like that, I think your motives and intent deserve to be questioned.
00:18:04.000 And if you're, yeah, and if you're in massive debt and, you know, you have strange connections to foreign diplomats that could take care of that debt, you know, and actually have been linked to possibly being anti-Trump, you know, it deserves to be looked into.
00:18:20.000 You know, we deserve, the American people deserve to know whether his intentions are clean or if he's just an opportunist, you know, taking advantage and trying to take care of his own shadiness. 0.98
00:18:31.000 The left is so desperate to impeach Trump, to ruin Trump, that they are getting into bed with really curious, questionable scumbags. 0.99
00:18:42.000 I'm just alleging that he appears to be a scumbag, by the way, litigation people. 1.00
00:18:47.000 And these strange Arab sheiks who know, God knows what the hell they get up to. 1.00
00:18:53.000 I mean, they're just, they're reckless, the left, and they're putting us all in danger. 0.97
00:18:57.000 They're trying to sabotage the country by any means necessary. 0.97
00:19:01.000 Absolutely.
00:19:02.000 Just the other day, a CNN staff member was tweeting about how he was welcoming the leader of Iran to the resistance because the leader of Iran was reading that Fire and Fury book.
00:19:14.000 Wonderful.
00:19:15.000 Yeah, you really have to wonder about things like that.
00:19:17.000 You know, when you have these prominent figures with huge platforms talking about like horrible regimes welcoming them to the resistance, this is a platform the left supports.
00:19:29.000 I mean, it's very questionable.
00:19:31.000 And when they adopt figures like Avenatti so quickly and, you know, put him on the media, give him over 100 interviews between CNN and MSNBC and NBC News and whatnot, you just really have to wonder what their intentions are and why they're trying so hard to take down Trump without concrete proof that he did any of the things they're accusing him of.
00:19:52.000 You know, last time you were on the show, we were talking about Biden's gross habits with smelling children's necks and there was a lot of room for comedy there.
00:19:59.000 But this is, I am Kurt Cobain.
00:20:02.000 You're like Michelle Mochan.
00:20:03.000 You blew my mind and I can't joke around. 0.53
00:20:06.000 This is disturbing and I can't wait for it all to blow up in his face because you know it's inevitably going to explode.
00:20:12.000 Oh, absolutely.
00:20:13.000 He's in damage control.
00:20:14.000 Today even, he tweeted about basically how he has amassed over a billion dollars in settlements and how, you know, he's not an ambulance chaser or he's not the crook people are, you know, trying to accuse him of being.
00:20:27.000 And it's like, no one's really actually trying to accuse you of being a crook.
00:20:30.000 We're pointing out fraudulent behavior.
00:20:33.000 There's a big difference.
00:20:36.000 All right, Richard, we're out of time.
00:20:38.000 Thank you for coming on the show.
00:20:40.000 As always, thank you so much for having me.
00:20:42.000 And nice to talk to you.
00:20:43.000 Cheers, buddy.
00:20:48.000 Melanie, are you there?
00:20:50.000 I'm here.
00:20:51.000 Hello, Gavin.
00:20:52.000 How are you doing?
00:20:54.000 I'm doing great.
00:20:55.000 You look great.
00:20:57.000 Well, you sound surprised.
00:20:59.000 No, no.
00:21:00.000 Well, it's early in the morning for some people.
00:21:02.000 I don't know.
00:21:03.000 Oh, I've already worked out.
00:21:05.000 I'm like, day is.
00:21:07.000 You're going to have lunch soon.
00:21:09.000 Glamorizing the child-free life ignores reality for most childless women. 1.00
00:21:15.000 We were just reading your article on Quillette, and I was profoundly surprised to hear a woman admit that. 1.00
00:21:24.000 Admit that we don't necessarily want a child-free life.
00:21:29.000 Admit that we want children.
00:21:30.000 Admit that we grieve when we don't have children, especially when we are, you know, we have yearned for children our entire life.
00:21:39.000 This is the majority, actually, of American women. 0.99
00:21:43.000 And I just, I have to say up front that if a woman decides she does not want children, I champion that choice. 1.00
00:21:52.000 Anybody, man or woman, who does not want to have children should not have children. 1.00
00:21:58.000 But for those who do, and again, that's the majority, and the majority don't want to have children, it's become a challenging time because women are having children later because they're marrying later and they're having children at the end of their fertility.
00:22:16.000 And it's just a whole new landscape.
00:22:20.000 Yeah, that's another thing is there's all these myths about, oh, my mother actually did have them at 40.
00:22:26.000 My wife had our last kid after 40. 0.54
00:22:28.000 Yes, that happens.
00:22:29.000 It's the exception, not the rule.
00:22:31.000 You're running at a time from 30 to 35.
00:22:34.000 And that's considered sexist to say, but it's just a biological fact.
00:22:39.000 Well, yeah, I mean, no, it's not sexist.
00:22:41.000 You're right.
00:22:42.000 It's biological.
00:22:44.000 I think, and it depends on the woman. 0.99
00:22:46.000 You know, some women have fertility issues even in their 20s. 1.00
00:22:50.000 But there's no doubt that certainly the older you get, the less fertile you are.
00:22:56.000 This doesn't mean there are women at 40 who, or 42, 44, who have intercourse and get pregnant without any problem.
00:23:06.000 But yes.
00:23:07.000 They all seem to think they're the exception.
00:23:09.000 Look, the vast majority, 80% are from a 30-to-35 window.
00:23:14.000 After that, it's all exceptions.
00:23:16.000 And I love getting down to percents with this because we both agree that some people should have babies, some people shouldn't.
00:23:22.000 But the real question is, how many?
00:23:25.000 And I've always said 95% of women would be happier as housewives at home with kids.
00:23:33.000 5% are Barbara Corcoran, Maggie Thatcher, you know, all these ball-busting superbroads that can survive out there in the workforce and thrive on conflict. 1.00
00:23:44.000 You know, I don't, look, I think there's a difference between whether or not women want children and whether or not women want things that are additive to motherhood.
00:23:56.000 I think they're, you know, women are very bright, right? 0.73
00:24:00.000 We know now that more women are graduating college. 1.00
00:24:02.000 When they leave college, women without children are earning more than men. 0.80
00:24:06.000 They're actually young women are doing very well.
00:24:09.000 And that what Betty Ferdinand called that ennui, that that time when after, especially after the children are now in school full-time, I mean, a woman, you know, like a man, she needs stuff to do. 1.00
00:24:23.000 And any human being wants to live life to their potential.
00:24:27.000 They have desires, not only, you know, as a maternal being, but also as a human being.
00:24:34.000 And I don't know.
00:24:35.000 I would push against Gavin's beef.
00:24:37.000 I would push against that they want to be housewives. 1.00
00:24:40.000 You know, some do, and that's completely cool, and that's fine.
00:24:44.000 But, you know, I think that many women want to exercise their brain and their potential. 1.00
00:24:52.000 Okay, well, we've got two arguments going on here.
00:24:54.000 So let's settle the first one.
00:24:57.000 Totally nothing to do with work.
00:25:00.000 How many, what percentage of women want kids? 1.00
00:25:04.000 And a lot of them say they don't want kids and then regret it when they're 40.
00:25:08.000 So I'm asking you, what percentage of women deep down, despite what they say, biologically want children? 1.00
00:25:17.000 About 90%.
00:25:18.000 90%.
00:25:19.000 Okay, so we're only off 5%.
00:25:21.000 Now, this is where we get controversial and likely split.
00:25:24.000 I, and very few people agree with me on this, I don't think 95% of women thrive in the workforce because the workforce is a confrontational and rough place where insults are, like the way men talk to each other is insulting.
00:25:44.000 And I don't think work should be fun.
00:25:46.000 Work shouldn't be pleasant.
00:25:47.000 You're trying to build something.
00:25:49.000 You know, you're building a wall, you get scratched by the bricks and stuff, and then you can relax at break time.
00:25:55.000 But women, they want a jovial, kind, safe space, And that's not conducive to productive work. 1.00
00:26:03.000 I don't know that all women want that. 1.00
00:26:04.000 I think that that's, again, part of this narrative that you were referring to earlier.
00:26:09.000 You know, for instance, there are now co-work spaces that are women only. 1.00
00:26:13.000 You can't even have a male guest.
00:26:15.000 I think that women create this pretense of that somehow being around other women is safer. 1.00
00:26:22.000 I have worked in departments with only women. 0.53
00:26:25.000 I would have loved to have had some men in that department. 0.99
00:26:30.000 I think there's this fallacy that women are angels and men are this toxic group of humans.
00:26:38.000 So I don't know that women can't take it. 1.00
00:26:44.000 And I think that the women who aren't complaining are the ones who can take it. 0.97
00:26:48.000 And if anything, if I've ever bemoaned the workplace, and I've worked in corporate America for some pretty large firms, it was the toxicity, which is the word nowadays, of women gossiping about women. 0.87
00:27:03.000 And by the way, it was women who weren't helping elevate other women. 1.00
00:27:08.000 It's a lot of women in HR. 1.00
00:27:11.000 they can be real bitches. 1.00
00:27:12.000 And, and look, and I'm not saying that all men are angels, but I, I think that, you know, Some people are like that, some people are like that. 0.99
00:27:23.000 I want to get down to, you know, nitty-gritty.
00:27:26.000 And I'm thinking of Gretchen Carlson.
00:27:27.000 She got $20 million because Roger Ailes made inappropriate comments. 0.65
00:27:32.000 I've worked in New York City for a quarter century, or sorry, for 20 years, and gays are constantly making inappropriate comments to us. 1.00
00:27:40.000 Gays that are above us, gays that are clients that we're trying to get. 1.00
00:27:43.000 And we just go, yeah, dude, I'm not performing fellatio for this contract. 0.99
00:27:48.000 And you laugh it off, and you go get a beer with the guy after.
00:27:51.000 You know what I mean?
00:27:52.000 It's a rough and tumble atmosphere.
00:27:54.000 Well, look, so I, again, there are shades of gray with everything.
00:27:58.000 I don't know.
00:27:59.000 No, come on. 0.85
00:28:00.000 I don't know that, frankly, I don't, it's all noise to me, so I don't know the details of her complaint and why she got that level of retribution.
00:28:11.000 There's a difference between, if a male boss or even a female boss says, if you have sex with me or you become my mistress, then you can stay in this job and I'll give you everything you want. 1.00
00:28:26.000 That's one thing. 0.77
00:28:27.000 Yeah.
00:28:30.000 Yeah, we're all, and hey, a lot of women in the 50s and 60s did it. 1.00
00:28:36.000 Oh, they still do.
00:28:37.000 Look at Harvey Weinstein.
00:28:38.000 Look how many people said, okay, I will do that for this job.
00:28:42.000 But what I'm getting to here is kind of an ethereal, trippy concept.
00:28:45.000 We maybe should have smoked a joint first. 0.98
00:28:47.000 But my point is, isn't the fact that these women are complaining, obviously these men are pigs, but isn't it kind of proof that women don't belong in the workforce? 0.97
00:28:56.000 Like say, you know, you had women in the NFL and they're constantly dealing with broken bones and stuff and we say we need to be gentler in football. 0.96
00:29:03.000 Or maybe women don't belong in the NFL in the first place. 1.00
00:29:07.000 But they're not in the NFL.
00:29:09.000 Right, but they're in the workforce and they keep suing and going to HR and complaining.
00:29:14.000 You don't hear men going to HR about being sexually harassed.
00:29:18.000 Maybe they go to HR wishing they were.
00:29:21.000 I don't know.
00:29:22.000 Yeah.
00:29:22.000 I mean, I just, I don't, look, this is not my, thankfully, I have never been sexually harassed.
00:29:29.000 Sure, men have said silly things to me.
00:29:33.000 I have no idea. 0.87
00:29:35.000 Well, if you sleep with me, I'll make you look a lot better in this interview and editing.
00:29:39.000 Oh, sweetie.
00:29:41.000 Just this is, I think this is working.
00:29:44.000 This is 49.
00:29:46.000 Yeah, I'm into branches.
00:29:48.000 Right?
00:29:49.000 I'm good.
00:29:50.000 So, but, but yes, you know, if a woman feels that, if she doesn't do something sexual with her boss or colleague or what have, or if the boss says, you know, we'll treat our client well, you know, then that is an issue.
00:30:09.000 And it's just an issue of man.
00:30:11.000 If you tell the man, you know, if you, let's say it's a gay man, you know, if you don't go to the strip club with the other men, then, you know, you're not part of the crew. 0.75
00:30:22.000 Look, I'm not a complainer like that. 0.91
00:30:24.000 This is not my bag.
00:30:26.000 And so I can't, I don't know that I'm the one to have that argument about, you know, but I do think women are fine in the workplace. 0.91
00:30:35.000 In fact, women can be quite strong and aggressive in the workplace. 1.00
00:30:41.000 Women have different ways of creating uncomfortable situations for other women and for men. 0.99
00:30:50.000 But I would not use that as a reason to not have women in the workplace. 0.99
00:30:54.000 Okay, well, let's unify these two separate arguments.
00:30:57.000 One is we seem to agree that most women want kids.
00:31:01.000 You disagree that women don't belong in the workforce, which makes sense. 1.00
00:31:04.000 It's a very radical belief I have.
00:31:06.000 But they come together with this last question.
00:31:09.000 Can you have it all?
00:31:10.000 Can women work and be good moms? 1.00
00:31:14.000 Can a kid not have a mom at home and have a nanny and daycare and still live a fulfilling, nurtured life?
00:31:22.000 First of all, having it all is a fallacy.
00:31:24.000 It was the name of a book Helen Gurley Brown wrote in the 80s.
00:31:30.000 She didn't even like the title.
00:31:32.000 In the entire book, there was one sentence about having children, and it says something, or actually that's her other book about sex.
00:31:43.000 I think they came before it in the 60s.
00:31:45.000 There's like one line that says, you know, and if you want a kid, then, you know, get your career and your apartment and your sex out of the way, then get married and have the kid.
00:31:57.000 And in having it all, it's really, again, about the single woman.
00:32:00.000 It is not about, you know, the mom, the married mom.
00:32:05.000 Having it all is about having it all now, in your 20s, now that these women, it's the beginning of the feminist movement, and women could get a job other than being a secretary, a teacher, a nurse, right? 0.99
00:32:18.000 Get a job, get a man, have sex, figure out what that's all about, and then get married and have kids. 0.61
00:32:27.000 And, you know, it was, again, a different time.
00:32:29.000 And so fewer women actually went back to work after kids. 1.00
00:32:33.000 And by the way, interesting information about Helen Gurley Brown.
00:32:36.000 We thought that she, you know, eschewed having children, but the truth is, she reveals toward the end of her life that she actually very much wanted children and she grieved that they couldn't have children.
00:32:48.000 That is the million-dollar point right there.
00:32:51.000 Do I get a million dollars?
00:32:53.000 Metaphorically, metaphorically, don't sue me.
00:32:59.000 Michael, are you there?
00:33:01.000 I'm here.
00:33:02.000 I made it.
00:33:03.000 I really like your outfit, Gavin.
00:33:05.000 I've got incredibly good taste in clothes, and I see you do too.
00:33:08.000 That's right.
00:33:09.000 We both look like males.
00:33:12.000 Well, you know, this is one thing I try for because I don't have the burly beard.
00:33:17.000 I have these Rachel Maddow glasses.
00:33:20.000 So really, the best thing that I can hope for is traditional sartorial gender roles. 0.99
00:33:25.000 Well, you have a chin, and the only reason I have a beard is to make a fake chin.
00:33:30.000 But I never understood you guys who look slightly Hispanic when you have black hair. 0.98
00:33:34.000 Why the hell would you not have a giant black mustache? 0.99
00:33:38.000 I was considering that. 0.98
00:33:40.000 I'm not allowed to go within 150 yard of school buildings when I have a mustache on, so it makes it very difficult to get around.
00:33:47.000 That doesn't turn women on, right? 1.00
00:33:51.000 Speaking of women, did you see this thing? 1.00
00:33:54.000 It's kind of old now, but we were talking earlier about trans women and drag queens and stuff.
00:33:59.000 And they've gone so far that they've actually come around to normal again.
00:34:04.000 Like, women are now participating in drag queen shows.
00:34:07.000 So it's women dressing up as exaggerated versions of women, which is just women. 0.97
00:34:14.000 This is a great cultural win.
00:34:16.000 You know, sometimes you have to zig and zag in the culture.
00:34:19.000 And so what happened is the left somehow made drag queens boring. 0.90
00:34:24.000 I don't know how you take the most flamboyant, colorful people on earth and make them this really somber thing.
00:34:29.000 So now drag queens are banned from pride parades because it's offensive to drag queens. 1.00
00:34:35.000 And women are also offended that they can't be drag queens. 1.00
00:34:38.000 So instead of dressing like men, which they've done for the last two decades, three decades, now they're dressing back up like women. 0.99
00:34:44.000 That is some serious jiu-jitsu, man.
00:34:47.000 I'm really proud of us.
00:34:48.000 Stilettos, I'm fine with it.
00:34:50.000 Yeah, that's progress. 0.91
00:34:52.000 Drag queens are getting kind of lazy, too. 1.00
00:34:53.000 I went to a drag bar with Milo Yiannopoulos and Pamela Geller, of all people, and I was disappointed with how many of them were wearing flats.
00:35:01.000 If you're going to be a woman, get some heels. 1.00
00:35:04.000 It's an outrage.
00:35:05.000 Yeah, if a drag queen becomes a feminist woman, does he just remain a man? 0.98
00:35:10.000 That's one of those real puzzles.
00:35:11.000 Well, they do that in New York. 0.98
00:35:13.000 You see these trans women, whatever the hell they're called, and you think, okay, if I'm going to do all that and get tits and everything, I'm going to be like Betty Boop or like a 50s poodle skirt. 1.00
00:35:26.000 I'm going to be the most woman-y, womany in the world, with Angora sweaters, but they'll just have on like long hair, maybe a bit of lipstick, not a lot, a sweatshirt, jeans, and some skechers. 1.00
00:35:37.000 And you're like, you're just an effeminate guy.
00:35:40.000 It's a sign of the times.
00:35:41.000 You know, in the old days, the radicals used to march and they'd burn down buildings and they'd throw Molotov cocktails.
00:35:48.000 And now they just occupy Wall Street.
00:35:50.000 They're too lazy even to burn down the buildings.
00:35:52.000 It's the same thing with these radicals. 1.00
00:35:53.000 They're too lazy. 0.91
00:35:54.000 They can't even put the high heels on. 0.50
00:35:56.000 You don't get credit for that.
00:35:58.000 I remember when I, you know, growing up in New York, you'd see crazy things in the village and stuff like that.
00:36:04.000 And now it's just boring.
00:36:05.000 They just make the culture boring and bland.
00:36:08.000 To quote a great man, Sad.
00:36:10.000 Well, they actually have made us cool, which at 47 with three kids, I didn't expect to still be cool, but it's cool to be irreverent and dangerous, and they are the ones with all the rules.
00:36:21.000 And they are becoming more traditional than us in many ways.
00:36:24.000 I saw a New York Times article, and it said, I'm a trans man trying to have a baby with my wife who is also trans.
00:36:33.000 It's complicated.
00:36:35.000 I don't have an advanced degree, so I did not follow any of that.
00:36:38.000 I'm going to translate that.
00:36:40.000 I am a woman with short hair, basically, who calls himself a dude, and I'm dating a guy who thinks he's a chick who's just basically glam, right?
00:36:50.000 Like early Motley Crew are just that.
00:36:53.000 So I'm a tomboy dating a glam rocker, and we're trying to have a baby.
00:36:58.000 That's not complicated.
00:36:59.000 I get it.
00:37:00.000 That's very simple.
00:37:01.000 That's like the essence of biology, I think.
00:37:05.000 That is a good point.
00:37:06.000 I also love, you know, there are, how many people are actually have this psychological condition where they're confused about their gender?
00:37:14.000 I mean, the actual ones.
00:37:15.000 I'm not talking about how it's cool now in high school to say, I don't have a gender, but like the actual ones, there are like 10 of these people.
00:37:22.000 This is something Trump got so right.
00:37:24.000 He said, there aren't that many of them.
00:37:26.000 They've always gone to the bathroom just fine.
00:37:28.000 It's never been an issue.
00:37:29.000 They can keep doing that.
00:37:31.000 It's cool, man.
00:37:32.000 And all of you people who don't have this condition, who are just starved for attention, you just need attention so bad, you have to keep using the normal bathroom.
00:37:41.000 Sorry.
00:37:42.000 Sorry.
00:37:42.000 Yeah, maybe that's one of the advantages of both of us being New Yorkers, because we've been seeing trannies forever.
00:37:48.000 We've been seeing freaks.
00:37:49.000 And we know even in New York where they all congregate from Earth. 0.89
00:37:53.000 If you're a Swedish weirdo, you move to the East Village. 1.00
00:37:56.000 So we have 100% of the Earth's weirdos.
00:38:00.000 I remember I was doing a radio show at that pizza joint, Frankie's.
00:38:04.000 They have a radio station now.
00:38:05.000 And there was this woman who did the reggae section, the show, and she's like, well, Guan, welcome back to Reggae Beats, you know.
00:38:12.000 She was from Germany.
00:38:13.000 She was a Rastafarian from Germany who moved to New York to do a reggae show in a fake accent, like Rachel Dolezal. 0.81
00:38:20.000 We got all the freaks.
00:38:21.000 And even then we go, yeah, there's not that many, and we don't have to change entire federal curriculums to include German Rastas.
00:38:30.000 Also, people, you know, if you congregate in this magnet of the universe called the village to be kind of a little weird, a little radical, a little out there, you don't want it to become this boring federal policy of like, well, we need to pass the German Rastafarian Protection Act of 20.
00:38:48.000 You don't need that.
00:38:49.000 There are a lot of laws on the books already.
00:38:52.000 Nobody wants that.
00:38:53.000 Now it's this somber thing.
00:38:55.000 And what comes at the end of all of this, the Boy Scouts don't exist anymore.
00:38:59.000 They somehow got rid of The Boy Scouts.
00:39:01.000 Yeah, no boys want to be Girl Scouts, but apparently girls want to be Boy Scouts, and Wreck being Boy Scouts, Wreck being men. 0.98
00:39:08.000 That seems to be the thing.
00:39:08.000 You know, another funny thing about them, too, is like lesbians, they become so obsessed with the archetype of a couple that she'll be like a tank top-wearing wife beater, figuratively and literally, kind of a guy.
00:39:21.000 She'll come home with like smutton chops, working on her car, and go, hey, where's my dinner?
00:39:26.000 You know, they've got a major domestic abuse problem, and she'll be going, oh, I'm sorry, boyfriend. 1.00
00:39:32.000 And you go, you are way more alt-right, super far conservative, 1950s, stick-up-your-ass, ancient America, than I could ever imagine to be.
00:39:43.000 So in many ways, they're more patriarchal than we are. 0.96
00:39:46.000 Of course, I have some credibility on this issue because I look like a very famous lesbian Rachel Maddow.
00:39:52.000 And so I like to think that I can really speak with some authority.
00:39:56.000 The issue with all of this, with creating your own identities and not, you know, I'm not talking about the seven people who actually have this condition.
00:40:04.000 I'm talking about the cultural problem, is you become a caricature of the thing you're playing.
00:40:09.000 Drag queens, always right. 1.00
00:40:10.000 Drag queens aren't women. 1.00
00:40:12.000 They are a caricature of women, or at least they used to be, with big lipstick and the crazy hair and basically just glam rockers and high heels. 0.99
00:40:19.000 That is a caricature.
00:40:20.000 But in our culture, we've gone so insane, we've totally transcended parody that we're confusing the caricature for the real thing.
00:40:28.000 And it ends up with pretty bizarre results.
00:40:30.000 You end up with strange bedfellows.
00:40:33.000 Well, the million-dollar question, and I'll end it with this, is I see what they want to do, and I sort of get the rhetoric in a sense.
00:40:41.000 It goes, we want people to feel included.
00:40:42.000 We don't want people to be ostracized.
00:40:44.000 Yeah, that sounds nice to me.
00:40:46.000 I don't like the idea of someone sitting in the corner eating lunch alone.
00:40:49.000 Right, right.
00:40:50.000 So that's a good sell.
00:40:52.000 But you go, wait a minute, you want to abolish gender. 0.97
00:40:54.000 You want to abolish capitalism. 0.98
00:40:56.000 You want to make sure white men don't have any power. 0.86
00:40:58.000 You want to make sure women are in action movies, all this stuff. 1.00
00:41:02.000 And then you start asking, so what's your universe?
00:41:05.000 And you realize that they want to tear down our society, our structure, but they don't have anything to replace it with.
00:41:10.000 They don't even know their own rules on gender. 0.95
00:41:13.000 It's totally destructive.
00:41:15.000 It's all destructive.
00:41:17.000 This is why, and you're seeing this from pretty weird corners now.
00:41:19.000 You know, Kanye West is tweeting about this just as much as the Trump movement is tweeting about it.
00:41:24.000 Even the buttoned-up conservatives kind of get this too.
00:41:28.000 It's all destruction.
00:41:29.000 It's just division, sowing rancor, this person, this person.
00:41:34.000 Intersectionality is just this ever-multiplying, angry, divisive movement.
00:41:39.000 And I think people are waking up a little bit.
00:41:41.000 I think Kanye West is a great example of this.
00:41:44.000 People are waking up and saying, oh, I don't need to be guilty and anxious and upset and worried and terrified all the time.
00:41:50.000 I don't need to be constantly afraid of every syllable I utter.
00:41:55.000 This is a great aspect of the Trump era, too.
00:41:58.000 Oh, I can just talk like a normal person again, and it's cool.
00:42:02.000 And people don't need to pretend to be offended.
00:42:05.000 That's cool.
00:42:06.000 We can just talk like normal humans.
00:42:09.000 Yeah, I think they tried it.
00:42:10.000 I think a lot of these lefties go, okay, I'll try.
00:42:12.000 I was even reading a chat someone sent me. 1.00
00:42:14.000 This is NSFW, but they were talking about giving a woman a blowjob and how it feels queer, but it's not queer because it's a woman's penis. 0.99
00:42:23.000 So you shouldn't feel gay. 1.00
00:42:24.000 And I think even the most adventurous SJWs are going, yeah, you know what?
00:42:30.000 I don't want to do that anymore.
00:42:31.000 I was with you until the...
00:42:37.000 It definitely felt like a guy.
00:42:39.000 I know it's a woman.
00:42:40.000 It definitely felt like a guy to me.
00:42:42.000 I don't know.
00:42:42.000 You look exactly like my brother's friend Ron.
00:42:45.000 So I'm never doing that again.
00:42:48.000 Listen, Ronaldo, you look exactly like my brother's friend Ron.
00:42:53.000 It is.
00:42:54.000 Michael, thank you for coming on the show.
00:42:56.000 Let's have you back soon.
00:42:57.000 Kevin, good to see you.
00:43:02.000 Here's a movie, Revenge. 0.99
00:43:03.000 I think it's in theaters now, and it's a show that depicts a horrific rape where we obviously want to kill the man responsible for the rape. 0.95
00:43:14.000 But in this movie, the women do it. 1.00
00:43:17.000 And this is considered feminist now. 1.00
00:43:19.000 Basically encouraging women to go out and kill people who rape them, which is putting them in danger unless you have a super microchip in the back of your neck. 0.99
00:43:28.000 And now they're trying, part of their advertising campaign is to pretend that we're mad because we don't like seeing empowered women. 1.00
00:43:34.000 You got that sort of fight back trailer thing in Majigi?
00:43:38.000 Women always have the fight. 1.00
00:43:45.000 Men online.
00:43:46.000 Ugh.
00:44:06.000 These are all my quotes. 0.85
00:44:07.000 Women belong in the kitchen. 1.00
00:44:10.000 Why are they bad at me?
00:44:12.000 Why did they just say YouTube?
00:44:13.000 Quote the guy.
00:44:15.000 But look at this. 0.99
00:44:15.000 She's covered in blood and she's got serious artillery murdering all these guys that raped her. 0.99
00:44:22.000 This is the deal, folks. 0.99
00:44:24.000 We don't fantasize about women beating up men because women don't beat up men. 1.00
00:44:28.000 And only nerds do that. 0.99
00:44:29.000 Nerds fantasize about violence because it's not in their life and they fantasize about hot chicks. 1.00
00:44:33.000 So nerds like them to see them melded in anime or something.
00:44:36.000 Us normal men don't have that fantasy and women do not have the fantasy. 1.00
00:44:41.000 Women don't fantasize about blowing a guy's head off for raping them. 1.00
00:44:46.000 They want that guy to have his head blown off by a man. 1.00
00:44:50.000 So I don't know who this market is besides lonely, sexless nerds that have never been in a fight. 0.99