Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - May 30, 2018


Ep 136| Free Tommy Robinson Special | Get Off My Lawn


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Ezra Levant, Lauren Southern, Ezra Levant, and Jay Shetty join the show to talk about the release of Tommy Robinson and the fall of the British Empire. They also discuss the New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio's response to the pro-Second Amendment protests in London.

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00:00:20.000 I'm from New York.
00:00:22.000 Get off my lawn with David McKinnon.
00:00:26.000 I hear a gang fire in the factory farm.
00:00:31.000 Are they howling out?
00:00:33.000 Putting somebody on.
00:00:36.000 All the cats walked up to the road.
00:00:39.000 Somebody grabbed her.
00:00:41.000 Gotta wait for the chorus. 1.00
00:00:42.000 Her voice spoke so cold it masked.
00:00:45.000 Weapon in a pond.
00:00:48.000 This is a time.
00:00:52.000 This life will send you fear.
00:00:54.000 This isn't high.
00:00:57.000 This is high.
00:00:59.000 Yeah.
00:01:02.000 This is how we feel.
00:01:08.000 That was the clash from their last album, Cut the Crap.
00:01:13.000 It sort of ended the clash.
00:01:15.000 And I'm not sure, I don't really understand music lyrics.
00:01:18.000 That song might be anti-English, sort of like, you know, born in the USA is not patriotic.
00:01:25.000 But I take it patriotic because that's how art operates.
00:01:28.000 It's up to you to interpret.
00:01:30.000 And I take it to mean that we're losing England.
00:01:35.000 And I think this Tommy Robinson case is a great example of the fall of the British Empire.
00:01:41.000 And we're going to focus all of today's show on freeing Tommy Robinson.
00:01:46.000 We've got Lauren Southern on the show. 1.00
00:01:48.000 We've got Ezra Levant on the show.
00:01:51.000 We have Raheem Kassan of Breitbart UK on the show.
00:01:57.000 And we have my buddy Jay, who was at the big rally on Downing Street, 10 Downing Street, where the Prime Minister lives.
00:02:03.000 And it was just mobs of people screaming, hey, Tommy, Tommy!
00:02:08.000 Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, Tommy Robinson.
00:02:12.000 I hung out with Tommy.
00:02:13.000 This is today's post, by the way.
00:02:15.000 It's about de Blasio and honoring our heroes, which I did when we did on yesterday's show.
00:02:20.000 We did a pre-taped show then, so you can go check that out if you want to talk about Memorial Day, but that was yesterday now.
00:02:25.000 And I hung out with Tommy for a weekend there for that speech where I kind of botched it because I was having so much fun with the lads.
00:02:34.000 And hanging out with those soccer hooligans for two days, I really felt, here, there we are.
00:02:39.000 That says at the game.
00:02:41.000 I really felt like England was not lost.
00:02:45.000 It was like hanging out with Vikings.
00:02:47.000 They slap their knees when they make a joke and their jokes are rude and loud.
00:02:54.000 And they're always stopping at the petrol steischen to get more lagers.
00:02:58.000 They don't eat at all.
00:03:00.000 They'll grab like a little scone or something or a little kebab at four in the morning.
00:03:05.000 But I never really saw them eat over those days.
00:03:07.000 I didn't eat either.
00:03:08.000 And it was just Guinness and pints.
00:03:12.000 Even at the soccer matches, they're spending half the time down in these sort of gullies, these alleys, because you're not allowed to bring beer on the pitch to the seats.
00:03:20.000 So they just go down there and spend four pints to have a pint and miss half the game.
00:03:25.000 But I thought, this is what men are when they're free to be themselves.
00:03:30.000 These are warriors.
00:03:32.000 And weird tranny jokes, too. 0.98
00:03:34.000 I remember them talking about banging a tranny on vacation. 1.00
00:03:38.000 And then, of course, I beat him up when I saw that he had a penis.
00:03:42.000 But then it was like, what starts as an accident becomes a habit, eh, lads?
00:03:47.000 Slapping their knees.
00:03:49.000 Anyway, these guys are also the last bastion of hope for England.
00:03:54.000 And it's ironic that the UK imported all of these Muslims to mess with the British working class, the lads, the Yabos, as they call them, because these are the only ones who can save Britain. 1.00
00:04:08.000 Isn't that a bizarre twist?
00:04:11.000 The elites, the media class, they all hate Tommy, but Tommy's the only one who can save Britain.
00:04:16.000 It really is like Britain is being attacked by itself.
00:04:21.000 And these elites, they don't understand that when you kill the whole country, all you're going to have is your nice apartment in Chelsea and then your country house.
00:04:29.000 But the rest of the country will be in the toilet.
00:04:31.000 You won't have anything to rule over.
00:04:33.000 And we'll have these brutal grooming gangs. 1.00
00:04:37.000 I'm going to talk to Rahim about that, where we've had immigrants for a long time into Britain, but they've all done well.
00:04:44.000 But these people are different.
00:04:45.000 It's a different culture.
00:04:47.000 I would hazard that one of the biggest differences they don't drink.
00:04:51.000 Yeah, you heard me.
00:04:52.000 You know, there was an Indian guy, Canadian, like a First Nations dude, and he goes around the world focusing on who is indigenous and indigenous peoples and whose land is this.
00:05:04.000 Because you can't say someone stole the land without saying that someone else had it first and deserves it.
00:05:09.000 And he said, one of the ways you can tell the Israelis are technically indigenous is because they, I don't like the word technically, I meant fundamentally.
00:05:18.000 Fundamentally indigenous is because olive trees and grapes and wine, which grow there naturally, are integral parts of their culture.
00:05:28.000 But what do the Islamicists do when they see a vineyard? 1.00
00:05:31.000 They burn it to the ground because it's evil.
00:05:33.000 Well then that means you're not meant to be on that ground.
00:05:36.000 You don't deserve that ground.
00:05:38.000 And the elites, just like Islam, they want to burn their own country to the ground. 1.00
00:05:44.000 Now, you all know the story so far.
00:05:47.000 It was Tommy going to, I'm going to say harass, sure, harass two Muslim pedophiles. 1.00
00:05:55.000 Can we just take a step back here to explain the grooming gangs going on?
00:05:59.000 Hundreds of girls in Britain are getting raped.
00:06:03.000 Not women, girls. 1.00
00:06:05.000 Girls, 11 years old, 12 years old. 0.97
00:06:08.000 What they do is, these girls, probably the children of single moms in the projects, they go to the local little bodega shops, the corner shops, and the Muslim store owners there will take them to the back, give them candy, give them something else.
00:06:23.000 And then they say, here, do you want to try some vodka?
00:06:26.000 They'll give them something naughty or maybe a cigarette.
00:06:29.000 And then They'll say, that's now started it.
00:06:33.000 You know, it's sort of like I've heard how you get people to torture other people in the military.
00:06:38.000 You have them do one little thing and then say, Well, you better go torture them or I'm going to tell people that you did that thing.
00:06:44.000 It's an old trick that bullies and predators have been using for years.
00:06:48.000 So you say, I gave you some vodka, I gave you some candy.
00:06:51.000 Show me your boobies, or I'm going to get you in big trouble for doing that, drinking that vodka. 1.00
00:06:58.000 Now you show me your boobies. 1.00
00:07:00.000 Now I get to sleep with you, or I'm going to show everyone your boobies. 0.99
00:07:03.000 And so on and so on, until they're passing around this girl as a sex slave, raping her repeatedly under the auspices of you better do that or your mommy's going to find out. 1.00
00:07:13.000 And by the way, we know where you live.
00:07:14.000 And if you tell anyone about this, we're going to kill your family.
00:07:19.000 It's called terrorism.
00:07:21.000 So they're terrorizing these girls to the tune of hundreds and hundreds all over the country. 0.87
00:07:26.000 And real Englishmen, real Brits, real Scots, real Welsh are fighting back.
00:07:32.000 And these guys, the other disturbing thing about it is they're so arrogant.
00:07:36.000 You know, like when a pedophile is caught in America, they have their hood over and they're suicidal for good reason.
00:07:43.000 But these guys seem kind of arrogant about it.
00:07:45.000 Like when Tommy confronts them, they start screaming about Tommy's mother and stuff.
00:07:51.000 But here's, here's, do we, let's show some of the footage of Tommy quote unquote accosting these pedophiles who are there, I believe, waiting for sentencing.
00:08:01.000 So he's not messing with the trial.
00:08:02.000 The trial's done.
00:08:03.000 We're just seeing how long they're going to be there for.
00:08:06.000 Paul, where are these men here?
00:08:07.000 Where are these men here?
00:08:09.000 Let me see.
00:08:09.000 Paul, lads, how are you feeling?
00:08:10.000 How are you feeling about your verdict?
00:08:12.000 I've just had to see the...
00:08:14.000 Oh, Lord.
00:08:15.000 How you feeling about your verdict?
00:08:16.000 How you feeling about your verdict?
00:08:17.000 What verdict?
00:08:17.000 How you feeling about the verdict?
00:08:19.000 You got your prison bag, Real?
00:08:20.000 Yeah, look at you.
00:08:21.000 You got your bags for you?
00:08:22.000 You got your bags, yeah?
00:08:23.000 Yeah.
00:08:24.000 How you feeling about the verdict?
00:08:27.000 You've got no guilt.
00:08:28.000 Is there any guilt?
00:08:28.000 Is there any guilt, mate?
00:08:29.000 Is there any guilt?
00:08:33.000 You see that?
00:08:34.000 This is someone who's awaiting sentencing.
00:08:36.000 He's got his jailbag and he's yelling at the person filming him with nothing to cover his face.
00:08:43.000 I don't think they even see this as a crime.
00:08:45.000 I don't think.
00:08:46.000 I think a lot of these Muslims don't even see Britons as human beings. 1.00
00:08:51.000 I think they pass around these girls like garbage. 1.00
00:08:53.000 Someone was saying that a lot of these North African immigrants, the refugees, they only know blonde women through pornography. 1.00
00:09:00.000 And so they see these whores and they think, oh, blonde women, white women are insatiable, disgusting sluts. 1.00
00:09:07.000 I'm just going to go grab one on the street.
00:09:11.000 Vile.
00:09:12.000 So that's his crime.
00:09:14.000 You just saw his crime.
00:09:16.000 And this is him getting arrested for said crime.
00:09:20.000 You've all watched this.
00:09:21.000 You've all watched this.
00:09:22.000 Can you get me a slit up?
00:09:23.000 Can you get me a slip?
00:09:26.000 Can you get a slisp?
00:09:28.000 Yeah.
00:09:30.000 So it goes on.
00:09:34.000 What does that mean?
00:09:36.000 Breach of the peace.
00:09:36.000 He's breaching the peace.
00:09:38.000 What does that mean?
00:09:41.000 I've been told that from the people who do it in the case, what I'm doing.
00:09:44.000 Now remember, someone tried to kill Tommy in prison.
00:09:48.000 Muslims represent maybe 15% of the prison population, but some prisons, it's different.
00:09:54.000 That's enough.
00:09:54.000 Go ahead.
00:09:56.000 Some prisons, maximum security, they're more like 44%.
00:10:00.000 So if he goes to the wrong prison or even the wrong wing, they're going to try to kill him.
00:10:04.000 And this is the state.
00:10:05.000 This is the government.
00:10:07.000 And the media is complicit in this, by the way.
00:10:09.000 This is the media class and the elites trying to not silence Tommy.
00:10:14.000 That's the best case scenario for us.
00:10:18.000 They want him dead.
00:10:20.000 They want to murder him.
00:10:22.000 So we're not up against someone who wants to edit some of Tommy's journalism.
00:10:26.000 That's not what our adversaries are up to.
00:10:29.000 Our adversaries want to not silence speech, kill the person talking.
00:10:34.000 And that will be a huge victory for them.
00:10:36.000 So the reaction has been very good on our side of things.
00:10:40.000 We've said, no, you're not going to kill Tommy.
00:10:42.000 We're going to kill you.
00:10:44.000 We're going to fight back.
00:10:46.000 And as a guest coming up is going to say, if something happens to Tommy, it is going to go off in that country.
00:10:56.000 It's going to go off all over the world.
00:10:58.000 Check out my buddy, Brian of London, who I hung out with when I was in Israel.
00:11:03.000 He put together a demonstration in Tel Aviv saying, free Tommy, outside the British Embassy.
00:11:10.000 And these have only just begun, by the way.
00:11:13.000 We're going to start seeing these in Canada, New York City, all over the world.
00:11:16.000 We're gonna see them until Tommy gets out.
00:11:35.000 Speaking Hebrew, that's Tel Aviv, thousands of miles away.
00:11:42.000 And then check out other long-term guest here, Avi Yamini.
00:11:48.000 This is in Australia, I believe Sydney, I'm not sure.
00:11:52.000 Right and true.
00:11:54.000 And this is a big thing.
00:11:54.000 Look at this.
00:11:55.000 Overnight, we announced this rally about 24 hours ago.
00:11:59.000 The Australian Liberty Alliance announced that they're going to form this rally.
00:12:03.000 And in one night, on a working day, I don't know how many people we have, but it is unbelievable.
00:12:09.000 And I just got off the phone about half an hour ago.
00:12:11.000 I got word that Tommy's wife had spoken to Tommy just moments ago for the first time and let him know that we are rallying here in Melbourne and he was in tears.
00:12:27.000 And then look at the one in England itself.
00:12:30.000 I think it was thousands of people storming the streets.
00:12:35.000 Now, these guys, they've got those shirts on.
00:12:38.000 So it looks like the front line, they're all supporters of those women who you can see there.
00:12:45.000 Where are they going?
00:12:49.000 Yeah, they've got that.
00:12:50.000 No, I think it's the ones holding up the flag.
00:12:53.000 Those are the mothers of those three boys who were killed by a Muslim driver.
00:12:57.000 Run down.
00:12:58.000 The left says it was just a drunk driver.
00:13:00.000 It was just an accident.
00:13:01.000 The right says it was a planned attack.
00:13:03.000 A terror attempt to kill three innocent boys.
00:13:06.000 By the way, look at that.
00:13:08.000 Bagpipe.
00:13:08.000 Scotland.
00:13:10.000 England and Scotland are normally adversaries, not over this.
00:13:14.000 And I think all Western nations need to unite against the Islamicization of this part of the world. 1.00
00:13:22.000 There they are.
00:13:22.000 Those are the mothers of the victims.
00:13:24.000 Three victims.
00:13:25.000 The one in the pink, and then the girl holding the teddy bear.
00:13:30.000 They're yelling, what do we want?
00:13:31.000 Justice, when do we want it now?
00:13:33.000 So they went to 10 Downing Street, stormed the place.
00:13:36.000 I think it's amazing.
00:13:38.000 And I think the government is realizing that they have Streisand effect.
00:13:43.000 But this case is complicated, and I have trouble understanding it because I've been talking to people who were talking to the lawyers, and I'm getting all kinds of stories.
00:13:51.000 Like, I could have raised a million bucks, no problem.
00:13:53.000 In Australia, Canada, Britain, America put together, million bucks.
00:13:58.000 Best lawyers in town.
00:14:00.000 But it's not easy for him to get the best lawyers.
00:14:03.000 He already has a lawyer.
00:14:04.000 She doesn't want money being raised. 1.00
00:14:07.000 She says someone's already handled that.
00:14:10.000 I can't seem to get a straight story.
00:14:11.000 And I'm sort of getting an interesting vibe that's sort of like, don't help us.
00:14:15.000 We got this.
00:14:15.000 And every time we intervene, like, for example, people started buying him stuff in the commissary and sending him books and stuff.
00:14:23.000 That's not good.
00:14:24.000 That creates animosity from the corrections officers towards him.
00:14:27.000 We all want to help, but it's almost like Tommy is too loved.
00:14:32.000 And that's dangerous for him.
00:14:34.000 Anyway, I'm not sure who we should start with all these guests.
00:14:38.000 Let's start with the lovely Lauren.
00:14:41.000 Let's start with the lovely Lauren.
00:14:46.000 Lauren, are you there?
00:14:48.000 I'm here.
00:14:49.000 Thanks for having me.
00:14:50.000 Thank you for coming on on such short notice.
00:14:52.000 Now, you seem to be one of the insiders on this whole case.
00:14:56.000 You seem to know all the latest.
00:14:58.000 Yeah, well, I was working on a media project with Tommy a little while ago, and then I got banned from the country, and Tommy was put in jail.
00:15:06.000 So that didn't really take off, did it?
00:15:09.000 But I, of course, know a lot of Tommy's team.
00:15:12.000 In fact, I've got one of Tommy's cameramen, George, the individual who he was screaming, George, get me a solicitor at when he was arrested, is sleeping on my couch right now.
00:15:22.000 So I've certainly got an idea of what's going on in the background right now.
00:15:28.000 And I've been talking to a lot of people, you know, peripherally, and I'm getting a strange feeling from the people involved that the sentiment is sort of like, please don't help us.
00:15:41.000 Like, don't rub a fundraiser.
00:15:42.000 Don't let the media ban.
00:15:44.000 Don't get me a fancy lawyer.
00:15:46.000 Is that what's going on?
00:15:49.000 Well, of course, there's, from my understanding, now, of course, I am going to just be terrible with any of the legal jargon and everything.
00:15:56.000 I'm not an expert in this realm.
00:15:57.000 But from my understanding, communications with the lawyer have been, they're very concerned about how Tommy is going to be treated in jail and how Tommy is going to be treated by the legal system, certainly when considering his parole.
00:16:10.000 If the media ban is lifted, which it just was, of course, the courts are going to be worried, is Tommy going to come out of jail and then start making us look bad because we did this pretty unethically, right?
00:16:21.000 So they're always worried about saving their own ass.
00:16:25.000 And unfortunately, a lot of the things that we can do to help sometimes hurt, much like this media ban being lifted.
00:16:32.000 So the media ban being lifted would enable Tommy to talk to the press.
00:16:36.000 He might disparage the judge or something or say bad things about the court.
00:16:40.000 Now the judge is in a bad mood.
00:16:42.000 Now the judge doesn't give him parole.
00:16:45.000 Hopefully that doesn't happen.
00:16:46.000 But yeah, that's been certainly talked about by Tommy's legal team.
00:16:51.000 Suicides.
00:16:52.000 I would assume the lawyers, because this has got to be an unprecedented case where you just drag someone in and then give them a trial.
00:16:58.000 He doesn't have access to a lawyer.
00:17:00.000 They give him a prosecution lawyer and say, all right, how do you plead?
00:17:03.000 And he has no choice but to say guilty, right?
00:17:06.000 Well, that's what's so bizarre about this because you do have people coming out and saying Tommy got everything that he deserved, right?
00:17:13.000 And they may very well have had a point if there were a proper trial that went down, if Tommy were given access to his own lawyer, if they went through the process of giving him an opportunity to make his defense and have the public examine the case as well.
00:17:31.000 But how everything was done, so shady, where he was arrested for breach of the peace when he was on the street with five of his friends and no one else, taken away, wasn't able to contact his lawyer, was appointed a prosecution barrister and was put in jail within four hours because of the way they did it.
00:17:51.000 And because it's so clearly something that was unprecedented to the extent that I think anyone in the right mind would say it's basically a setup, that's where the people criticizing Tommy and saying he deserved it lose me.
00:18:05.000 Right.
00:18:06.000 I mean, I've never heard of this before in the Western world.
00:18:09.000 Someone just showing up and being sentenced to a year in prison.
00:18:12.000 That's bizarre.
00:18:15.000 The fact that it takes them years and years and years to get through these rape trials, these Islamist extremists who are screaming on the street. 0.89
00:18:26.000 We have footage of them threatening Tommy, attacking him, beating him up, saying, we're going to kill your family, kill the Kufar, whatever it may be. 1.00
00:18:33.000 And these people never get any punishment.
00:18:35.000 Their live streams are going on all the time.
00:18:37.000 You never have the police watching their Facebook pages looking for a reason to arrest them.
00:18:42.000 It's clearly there is a political bias here.
00:18:46.000 If this hasn't convinced people enough, just look back at the Britney Pettibone case.
00:18:49.000 She was banned from the country for wanting to interview Tommy Robinson.
00:18:53.000 It is ridiculous for anyone to claim that the government doesn't have it out for him.
00:18:58.000 Yeah, it's a bizarre double standard where you have these Muslims who rape kids getting away with it because they didn't know the word for no or they didn't know the culture. 0.89
00:19:09.000 And they're literally getting away with murder in some cases.
00:19:12.000 And then you meet Tommy in Britain for a beer and he's been surrounded by 12 cops the whole way there.
00:19:18.000 Yeah, and what makes this really sad too is Tommy is known for being quite cheeky at these cases, of course.
00:19:25.000 We've seen the videos of him running out to these people saying, oh, you've been raping kids, have you?
00:19:30.000 And We're like, oh my gosh, I can't believe he just said that.
00:19:32.000 But this time, because he knew he had a suspended sentence, he was so careful.
00:19:37.000 And his cameraman George and I were talking about this, saying this dream that he was doing was actually pretty mundane.
00:19:44.000 It was pretty boring compared to his other ones because it's like it's Tommy Robinson there, probably using all of his willpower to confine what he's saying, saying alleged, just asking them questions, not screaming, you've been raping kids, have you at these people?
00:19:59.000 He was just stating the facts.
00:20:01.000 He worked so hard to make sure to stay within the confines of his suspension and still, still they came and took him away in a paddy wagon.
00:20:08.000 You know, I think we both know what's really going on here.
00:20:11.000 And what's happening is the state screwed up.
00:20:14.000 They imported hordes of Muslims. 0.86
00:20:17.000 I don't know exactly why.
00:20:19.000 Maybe Nigel Farage is right.
00:20:20.000 It was to rub the right's nose in it.
00:20:22.000 Maybe it was just for votes.
00:20:24.000 But it was an experiment they did and they failed.
00:20:27.000 And they are petrified of Britain discovering that the elites have ruined their country.
00:20:34.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:20:36.000 It's why they covered up Telford.
00:20:37.000 It's why they covered up Rotherham.
00:20:39.000 I mean, it's shocking to think that they can cover up the rape and assault and grooming of thousands and thousands of young girls.
00:20:47.000 To think it was just, they almost managed to get away with covering up Tommy's arrest, too.
00:20:53.000 If people don't know, it was only because of a internet sleuth who noticed Tommy quietly added to the Leeds court listings that his friends and family were able to find out he was being taken off to jail.
00:21:05.000 Otherwise, if the internet sleuth didn't notice that, none of us may have known what happened to Tommy.
00:21:10.000 We could have just thought he disappeared.
00:21:12.000 So much like they made Rotherham and Telford disappear for years, they could have made Tommy disappear for years as well without any of us knowing.
00:21:21.000 Oh, that's huge.
00:21:22.000 I had no idea.
00:21:23.000 That's a biggie.
00:21:25.000 That always happens when you have Lauren on your show. 0.99
00:21:27.000 You always find out something major you didn't know.
00:21:30.000 Lauren, thanks for coming on.
00:21:31.000 You were amazing as per huge.
00:21:34.000 Thanks for having me.
00:21:34.000 Absolutely.
00:21:35.000 Good British Boots, no Cakeman, Guardian of Hell.
00:21:41.000 Jay, are you there?
00:21:42.000 I'm here, Governor.
00:21:43.000 Hello.
00:21:44.000 Hello.
00:21:45.000 So we were just watching some of the footage.
00:21:46.000 It was amazing seeing everyone out there.
00:21:48.000 I like seeing Scotland and Wales and everyone in Britain get together on this because it's a Western problem, but it's particularly bad in Britain. 0.84
00:21:59.000 Where was the demonstration?
00:22:02.000 We were actually right outside of Threwsmay's house, down the street in Westminster.
00:22:06.000 The White House of London?
00:22:09.000 Pretty much, yeah.
00:22:12.000 It started off quite slow, but then more groups sort of converged all at the same time.
00:22:17.000 We sat down, we blocked off the whole of Westminster.
00:22:21.000 Public transport was at a standstill.
00:22:23.000 The police couldn't move anybody.
00:22:26.000 People were really angry.
00:22:27.000 Very well behaved, but really angry.
00:22:30.000 Well, it's an amazing situation because this isn't someone.
00:22:33.000 It's not like Tommy Robinson got in a fist fight and we're sad that he's arrested.
00:22:38.000 Tommy Robinson filmed someone who had already been accused, already been prosecuted for pedophilia.
00:22:45.000 It's not like the trial was still going.
00:22:47.000 And for that, he instantly gets a year in prison.
00:22:51.000 It's unprecedented.
00:22:53.000 It is.
00:22:55.000 When he got into trouble with this before, he wasn't using the correct terminology.
00:23:00.000 So he was saying, you know, ex-guy had done this.
00:23:04.000 It was a fact.
00:23:05.000 If you watch the live stream, he was using the word alleged all the time.
00:23:09.000 He even checked with the police outside the court.
00:23:12.000 Am I breaking any laws?
00:23:13.000 Am I on court property?
00:23:14.000 Is this okay?
00:23:15.000 And he was told yes.
00:23:17.000 So it looks like it was a stitch up from the start.
00:23:21.000 Well, I just read minutes ago that the Ezra Levant has helped lift the ban, the press ban.
00:23:28.000 So I think the UK media sources can, just starting right now, finally report on this.
00:23:34.000 But before minutes ago, before this morning, I should say, it was illegal to report on this case.
00:23:41.000 What's happening with Britain?
00:23:44.000 I don't know.
00:23:45.000 I really don't know.
00:23:47.000 If there's any good to come out of this is the fact that people who wouldn't ordinarily sort of identify with that sort of movement are now annoyed.
00:23:56.000 They're awake.
00:23:58.000 As far as reporting on it, I actually don't know how much good that will do with the press over here because we're all tarnished with the same brush anyway.
00:24:06.000 Right.
00:24:07.000 And we all, I mean, Britons already know what happened and they know the story and they don't trust the media class there.
00:24:13.000 That's the big part of the divide in Britain is the media class.
00:24:18.000 There's definitely a shift.
00:24:20.000 Friends who I've got who are apolitical, who would rather post photos of the cats on Facebook are now posting articles about this, largely from American sources, which is why it's so important that people on Twitter, people on Facebook are still hashtagging Free Tami, are still making everyone aware.
00:24:40.000 Just because we can't trust the press, and that's the feeling across the UK now.
00:24:44.000 Nobody trusts the press.
00:24:46.000 Not the BBC, not the independent channels that we don't have to pay a license for.
00:24:51.000 None of the traditional media are trusted.
00:24:54.000 That's amazing.
00:24:55.000 You know, it sounds like Britain is finally fighting back.
00:25:01.000 We used to say Britain is lost, but it sounds like Britain might be saved.
00:25:06.000 I mean, you've been through worse.
00:25:09.000 We have.
00:25:10.000 There's hope.
00:25:11.000 I mean, there's another demonstration on the 9th.
00:25:15.000 We've seen demonstrations in Tel Aviv, I believe.
00:25:19.000 Australia, all around the world.
00:25:22.000 So a lot of us feel like people have got our backs now.
00:25:25.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:25:26.000 We're very big ones at the British Embassy in Tel Aviv.
00:25:29.000 It seems like every British embassy in the Western world was getting at least some form of protest yesterday.
00:25:35.000 Yeah, it's really encouraging and it makes us feel good when we're out there risking our jobs, risking our families.
00:25:44.000 I mean, I personally, I've had threats from certain communities in Britain for being quite vocal in the past.
00:25:50.000 It's good to know people have got our backs.
00:25:52.000 Right.
00:25:52.000 And I think we feel like we can do something now.
00:25:55.000 The world's watching.
00:25:57.000 Well, this is a harder thing to quantify, but how Did it feel at that rally?
00:26:02.000 Like, what was in your gut when you were walking with those people?
00:26:05.000 What was the general sort of atmosphere in the crowd?
00:26:11.000 Anger.
00:26:12.000 Very, very angry.
00:26:13.000 I mean, as far as the crowd's concerned, we had people there who were on mobility scooters, we had kids there, and again, we were really well-behaved for the most part.
00:26:22.000 But just really anger, it felt like if anything happened to Tommy, it would blow up.
00:26:29.000 People are seething.
00:26:32.000 Yeah, good point.
00:26:33.000 If he gets killed or seriously injured in prison, there's going to be riots in the streets.
00:26:38.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:26:39.000 If anything emerges, even a black eye, it's all going to kick off.
00:26:44.000 I think we're at the tipping point now.
00:26:45.000 I don't want to sound like I'm ready for Doomsday, but yeah, we can't take anymore.
00:26:50.000 There's only so much we can bend.
00:26:52.000 And then when you've got a national figure, a hero to many people, such as Tommy, being whisked off like that, it's not a good idea.
00:27:02.000 Amazing.
00:27:03.000 Well, thanks for taking some time out of your busy night to talk to us on the show.
00:27:08.000 I'm really impressed with everyone over there.
00:27:10.000 I think that there's definitely hope for Britain now.
00:27:14.000 Definitely.
00:27:17.000 So, obviously, I'm a Proud Boy.
00:27:20.000 We've got our Proud Boy UK official page on Facebook.
00:27:23.000 Since the demonstration, since the Day for Freedom, when Tommy gave us a shout-out, we've been inundated with people wanting to join, wanting to find out more information.
00:27:31.000 We're organising, other groups are reaching out and organising.
00:27:34.000 It feels like there's a real effort in everyone's part to put aside any sort of differences, whether you're centrists, you're centre-right, your centre-left, and just crack on and get things changed.
00:27:49.000 Yeah, well, if we can't agree that children shouldn't be raped, we have some serious problems.
00:27:54.000 Thanks for coming on the show, buddy.
00:28:01.000 Ezra, are you there?
00:28:02.000 I am.
00:28:03.000 Thank you for having me.
00:28:04.000 Thank you for coming on.
00:28:05.000 Now, I know you're very busy today, especially because of the Tommy stuff.
00:28:09.000 You've been covering it very well.
00:28:10.000 Let me ask you, as a lawyer or an ex-lawyer, whatever the case may be, this has got to be unprecedented, right?
00:28:18.000 I don't know if I would call it unprecedented, but it's certainly an extreme application of a rule.
00:28:23.000 I believe that there should be a law against contempt of court.
00:28:26.000 What I mean by that is it's not just about insulting a judge.
00:28:30.000 I think contempt of court usually means that you're undermining the integrity of a trial.
00:28:39.000 You're leaning on witnesses.
00:28:40.000 You're leaning on the jury.
00:28:42.000 You're causing the administration of justice to fall into disrepute.
00:28:48.000 So I believe that should be on the books.
00:28:50.000 And that does go back for ages.
00:28:52.000 That's not new.
00:28:53.000 Yeah, I don't think many people would have a problem with that.
00:28:56.000 Right.
00:28:57.000 And I don't, and I don't think Tommy does either.
00:29:01.000 Tommy Robinson, who we're talking about here.
00:29:03.000 And that's why I think it's not the contempt of court laws, which goes back decades in its current version and centuries before that in common law practice.
00:29:14.000 It is what Tommy did, the facts of Tommy's case, absolutely do not warrant a 13-month prison term, in my view.
00:29:24.000 Now, I don't have all the facts from the drumhead hearing he had on Friday.
00:29:28.000 By drumhead, I mean he was arrested, hauled before a judge, given a public defender who had no expertise in contempt of court.
00:29:35.000 It was literally a minutes-long hearing, and he was thrown off to prison for 13 years.
00:29:40.000 That's the part I'm talking about.
00:29:41.000 This idea of no judge, no jury, just arrested.
00:29:44.000 I bang, I sentence you off.
00:29:46.000 That's the unprecedented thing I'm talking about.
00:29:49.000 That's right.
00:29:50.000 I want to give you a little bit of an anecdote based on a year ago when Tommy worked for the Rebel.
00:29:54.000 He was doing something similar outside a court in Canterbury.
00:29:58.000 There's rape gang trials all the time in the UK, all the time.
00:30:02.000 And I should say they only touch a sliver of a fraction of the scale of rape gangs. 0.57
00:30:09.000 So Tommy was outside the court in Canterbury, and he made two mistakes.
00:30:14.000 He stepped, he set foot on the courthouse property, and he filmed himself for 45 seconds in a video selfie.
00:30:23.000 Oh, and I guess he did one more thing.
00:30:24.000 He said rapists, not accused rapists.
00:30:28.000 So based on that, the police raided his home at 4 a.m. the next day and hauled him before that judge.
00:30:36.000 We were shocked when we saw the 4 a.m. raid.
00:30:39.000 We dispatched lawyers to find out what jail he was in.
00:30:41.000 We finally got to court.
00:30:42.000 We convinced the judge to let him come home that night and to let us hire some experts in contempt of court law.
00:30:49.000 We went back to court, so he was basically on bail, a kind of bail.
00:30:54.000 A week or two later, we went back to court.
00:30:56.000 We had three lawyers, including a top QC, that's like a barrister, that's the arguer, a top expert in contempt of court, which is a very obscure law, and we had our general.
00:31:08.000 So we had a bit of a dream team there.
00:31:10.000 And the judge let him out on a suspended sentence.
00:31:15.000 In other words, the judge said, you shouldn't have been on court property.
00:31:19.000 You shouldn't have been taking a video on court property.
00:31:21.000 You shouldn't have called them rapists because they weren't convicted yet.
00:31:25.000 But maybe you didn't know.
00:31:27.000 And your lawyer says you'll be harmed in jail.
00:31:30.000 And another court said it was okay to step on property.
00:31:33.000 So we're not going to send you to prison now, but we're going to give you a three-month sentence that's suspended with a hair trigger.
00:31:41.000 So if any time in the next 18 months you do anything wrong, this three-month prison term, that thread snaps, the dagger comes down on you.
00:31:49.000 So I say again, this thing in Canterbury was 12 months ago.
00:31:54.000 So the 18-month period under which Tommy was under this knife's dagger hanging over him, so that was triggered in Leeds this week, and they obviously added more to it if he got a 13-month sentence.
00:32:10.000 Let me spit out a few more facts.
00:32:11.000 I know I'm going a mile a minute, but I just want to tell you the difference between what Tommy did in Canterbury and what he did in Leeds this week, okay?
00:32:17.000 Am I getting too detailed here or do you want to?
00:32:19.000 Yes, you are.
00:32:19.000 Because we covered this earlier in the show.
00:32:21.000 He didn't step on the steps, and he said alleged rapists, and they were there for sentencing.
00:32:27.000 The trial was over.
00:32:29.000 So he was not.
00:32:31.000 Good.
00:32:31.000 So you made my point.
00:32:33.000 So he did not trip any of the wires.
00:32:36.000 It was, we had Lauren Southern on the show, and she points out his video was kind of mundane.
00:32:42.000 It was almost boring.
00:32:44.000 It was a one-hour live stream.
00:32:47.000 What concerns me is, and I went into this on some detail on my noontime show today, here's the problem with contempt of court law as is practiced in the UK.
00:32:55.000 And I observed this a year ago in Canterbury, and I'm sure it's the same in Leeds today.
00:33:01.000 And can I take a minute to talk about this?
00:33:03.000 Because some of your viewers will say, who cares?
00:33:05.000 This is boring law talking stuff.
00:33:07.000 But here's why it's, is this unprecedented, you said?
00:33:11.000 Unprecedented is the wrong word.
00:33:13.000 A quirk in our legal system.
00:33:15.000 Yes, that's the right word.
00:33:16.000 Here's what I mean.
00:33:17.000 If you have a complaint against someone in court, it's pro and con, plaintiff, defendant, prosecution, accused, right?
00:33:24.000 There's two sides, and who's judging it?
00:33:27.000 A neutral referee, a judge who is nonpartisan and dispassionate, who goes into it with a clean slate.
00:33:34.000 It could be a jury, okay?
00:33:35.000 My point is you have a pro and a con and a neutral decider.
00:33:38.000 Obvious, right?
00:33:40.000 But contempt of court is not like that.
00:33:43.000 Contempt of court, a judge sees something or hears a rumor, more likely, that gets him mad.
00:33:49.000 Oh, I hear Tommy Robinson's outside causing a disturbance.
00:33:54.000 Because some court police officer whispers in the judge's ear, Your Honor, my lord, there's Tommy outside.
00:34:01.000 I'm not going to try the accents.
00:34:02.000 That's your department, Gavin.
00:34:03.000 But so the judge who's presiding over the rape gang trial hears a whisper in his ear, Tommy Robinson's outside causing a disturbance.
00:34:10.000 The judge goes to the window and peers down.
00:34:13.000 The judge gets furious.
00:34:15.000 The judge summons Tommy before him, and the judge judges Tommy.
00:34:20.000 But you see, the judge is also the complainant, so to speak.
00:34:23.000 The judge is the one who's angry.
00:34:26.000 So you have the prosecutor is also the decider.
00:34:32.000 Even in that extreme case, even within this quirk, with all those other parameters, isn't being able to say, boom, I hereby sentence you, has that ever been done?
00:34:42.000 Even with contempt?
00:34:44.000 Yes.
00:34:44.000 Oh, I see.
00:34:45.000 But my point is, in Tommy's case, why could he not be released on some sort of recognizance or bail to get his lawyer there?
00:34:53.000 Like, even his regular general practice lawyer was not available.
00:34:56.000 Why did it have to happen that minute?
00:34:58.000 Why couldn't a judge say That's unprecedented.
00:35:03.000 I don't think that's unprecedented, but I think that that showed an abuse of discretion.
00:35:07.000 And I think it's...
00:35:12.000 You want to talk about bringing the administration of justice into disrepute.
00:35:15.000 You want to talk about breaking the integrity and reputation of the system.
00:35:19.000 Throwing a guy in prison after 10 minutes because you're angry at him.
00:35:23.000 You didn't let him have his own lawyer, let alone an expert lawyer.
00:35:26.000 You didn't let him have a week or two like he did in Canterbury to prepare his case.
00:35:30.000 This is a complicated area of law.
00:35:32.000 You're not even letting the guy sit down with his lawyers and map out a strategy.
00:35:35.000 Why was it so important that he went to jail at 2 p.m. that day instead of 6 p.m. that day, instead of 2 p.m. the week later?
00:35:43.000 Why was it so important?
00:35:44.000 And for 13 months in prison yet?
00:35:47.000 So I say again, the law itself is not unprecedented.
00:35:53.000 But the application of the law to this man and these facts with this outcome, I'm not going to call it unprecedented because I don't have a big enough command of the UK law of contempt of court.
00:36:02.000 But it certainly strikes me as deeply unreasonable, deeply legally appealable, which I hope happens.
00:36:10.000 Now, a year ago when Tommy was in Canterbury, I was his boss at the Rebel, not that Tommy ever has a boss.
00:36:16.000 So I was in the position to make decisions.
00:36:18.000 We hired this little junior dream team, as I mentioned.
00:36:21.000 We sent the killer lawyers and we got her done.
00:36:24.000 I am not Tommy's boss anymore.
00:36:25.000 He left us to go independent a few months ago.
00:36:28.000 I'm on good terms with him, but I'm not a decider.
00:36:31.000 So it's not for me to say, do this, do this, do this, do this.
00:36:35.000 And I don't even think his lawyer visited him in prison until today.
00:36:38.000 So that's another thing.
00:36:40.000 He's in prison.
00:36:42.000 He wasn't even given a chance to confer with proper legal advice.
00:36:47.000 And even his family was really locked out from talking to him in any meaningful way.
00:36:51.000 They went to work in that morning, came home, Tommy's away for 13 months.
00:36:56.000 He didn't even have time to say goodbye to his kids.
00:36:59.000 Unbelievable.
00:37:00.000 There's something very sinister going on here.
00:37:02.000 And it's obviously much bigger than Tommy.
00:37:05.000 Ezra, thank you for coming on the show.
00:37:06.000 Fascinating as well.
00:37:07.000 Thanks, Gavin.
00:37:08.000 Good luck.
00:37:12.000 Raheem, are you there?
00:37:14.000 I'm here.
00:37:15.000 Raheem, I have kind of an involved question here to ask you.
00:37:19.000 We had the Yardis come in in the 70s in Britain, and there were some riots, but it seemed to work.
00:37:25.000 We had the Indians come in, well, throughout Britain's history, and because they were a Commonwealth, it seemed to work.
00:37:31.000 This Muslim experiment, it seems to be going uniquely bad. 1.00
00:37:37.000 It is going uniquely badly.
00:37:38.000 I mean, as you say, Britain has a very, very good, on the whole, experience.
00:37:43.000 It might have taken some time and some decades for it to eventually work, but it had good experiences because it demanded integration.
00:37:51.000 It demanded assimilation. 0.91
00:37:53.000 It demanded that you could not have a counter-culture existent within the United Kingdom, that we were all subject to the same rules, all subject to the same laws.
00:38:02.000 Well, of course, Islam doesn't want to have any part of that. 1.00
00:38:04.000 Islam is a rule unto itself. 1.00
00:38:07.000 It has its own political doctrine.
00:38:08.000 It has its own religious doctrine, and it has its own legal system.
00:38:12.000 And that's why Islam is sort of the aberration in this regard. 1.00
00:38:15.000 And as you're seeing mostly from Pakistani Muslim immigrants, there is almost zero integration going on in the UK.
00:38:23.000 Yes, that's true.
00:38:24.000 But even culturally, it seems like in many ways it was unassimilable from the start.
00:38:30.000 I mean, a Jamaican grooming gang is unfathomable to me. 1.00
00:38:35.000 A Hindu grooming gang doesn't really fit in my head.
00:38:39.000 But a Muslim grooming gang is the result of people who don't see their host country as human beings, really. 0.99
00:38:48.000 We have to remember that Britain's historic experiences with Islam have been necessarily romantic. 0.95
00:38:54.000 I mean, with the Home Office and with the Foreign Office, I mean, these were two institutions and organizations That really took sort of the whole Lawrence of Arabia thing to heart, and they thought that all the Muslim world was the same as the Muslim world that they had already known.
00:39:08.000 We're now finding out the hard way that that's not the case.
00:39:12.000 Yeah, they were having winters in Morocco and trying strange dishes and thought that's what would happen when they imported.
00:39:19.000 Exactly.
00:39:20.000 How much of all this war on Tommy is Sadiq Khan?
00:39:24.000 Well, Tommy's case actually didn't take place in London.
00:39:27.000 Tommy's case took place in Leeds, which is about four hours north of London.
00:39:30.000 So actually, I don't believe that Sadiq Khan had any direct involvement in this.
00:39:34.000 But Sadiq Khan is more of a symptom of the problem than the problem himself.
00:39:39.000 While Sadiq will obviously prosecute certain issues that he believes in, he is actually more of the embodiment of what happens when you don't push back against multiculturalism, what happens when you don't push back against corruption.
00:39:53.000 Don't forget, this man as a solicitor defended a terrorist.
00:39:57.000 He was the lawyer for the Nation of Islam, the radical nation, anti-Semitic nation of Islam. 0.77
00:40:03.000 What happened in Leeds is something beyond that.
00:40:06.000 It's something beyond a figure.
00:40:07.000 It's something beyond a political party.
00:40:10.000 It's something deeply entrenched in the British political establishment, which is to say that if you campaign against the mass importation of Muslims, if you campaign against the criminality in their midst, and if you campaign against state-sponsored multiculturalism, you're an enemy of the state. 0.94
00:40:24.000 Well, the detractors are saying that Tommy was messing with a fair trial.
00:40:30.000 And by him harassing these alleged pedophiles, he was possibly damaging the case and allowing them to go free.
00:40:38.000 But were they not already convicted when he was talking to them?
00:40:42.000 Now, that's very interesting because we don't actually know the full 100% particulars of the case.
00:40:48.000 What we do know is that when these people were walking into the courtroom, that they were walking into the courtroom under the auspices of being sentenced, which meant that the trial had effectively come to a conclusion, that there was only the judges' sentencing left to go.
00:41:02.000 Now, that may be true, that may not be true, but that is what we understand.
00:41:06.000 The reason we don't understand it fully is because of these anti-diluvian reporting restrictions laws that we have in the United Kingdom.
00:41:14.000 If the judge of the day, Jeffrey Marson, had come out and said, well, actually, it's in the public interest, as it is, for them to understand the full length and breadth of this case, a 360-degree vision of what was going on here, then we might have had some understanding.
00:41:29.000 And of course, the public expects and is owed an understanding when it comes to high-profile cases like this.
00:41:34.000 So there's that element of it right there.
00:41:37.000 But what you also have is the fact that actually Tommy was off court property when he was talking about this case.
00:41:44.000 He was reading from reports that had already been in the mainstream press.
00:41:48.000 And as I understand it, he had already asked court officers and the police if he was okay to be doing what he was doing.
00:41:56.000 And again, as I understand it, they told him it was perfectly fine.
00:42:00.000 Well, it's not perfectly fine according to the establishment.
00:42:04.000 And information must be prevented from getting into the people's earholes here.
00:42:09.000 You know, it's very profound seeing you with Rome in the background there, because I feel like the entire Western world is falling right now.
00:42:17.000 Well, there's a reason I'm in Rome as well, because the establishment is moving heavily against the two populist forces of the Lego Nord and the five-star movement that came together to effectively win that last election.
00:42:28.000 And yesterday, the president of Italy comes out and says, no, you may not form a government.
00:42:33.000 I'm going to install an IMF technocrat instead to placate the European Central Bank and the European Union.
00:42:39.000 This war is taking place in almost every major capital in the Western world right now.
00:42:43.000 The populist, the nationalist versus the globalist establishment.
00:42:46.000 So that's why I'm here in Rome on the ground, not necessarily just reporting from here, but actually seeing what we can do to push back.
00:42:54.000 Yeah, you're not just a reporter.
00:42:55.000 You're a warrior here in this culture war, and it's a very tipping point.
00:43:00.000 Raheem, thanks for coming on the show.
00:43:01.000 I really appreciate it.
00:43:02.000 Thank you, Gavin.
00:43:03.000 My pleasure.
00:43:04.000 Cheers.
00:43:08.000 Did you catch that?
00:43:08.000 Do you understand why Raheem Kassan is in Rome?
00:43:11.000 The people, the nationalists, have decided they are taking over the country.
00:43:16.000 There's a group there called Five Star, the Five Star Movement, I believe.
00:43:20.000 And they want to merge with other political parties and take back Italy from the elitist globalists who are ruining it.
00:43:27.000 And the president has said, I'm not accepting this democratic choice.
00:43:31.000 So there's a major civil war about to go down in Italy.
00:43:36.000 And it's all related to the same thing, this Islamicization. 0.90
00:43:42.000 We didn't like it when it was just people who didn't seem to like our culture coming in.
00:43:46.000 But then they started raping children and murdering people and taking over entire areas and making them no-go zones.
00:43:53.000 And then we said, this is going beyond annoying.
00:43:56.000 And the elites just keep smirking about it.
00:43:59.000 Look at this picture.
00:44:00.000 This is while Tommy was getting arrested.
00:44:02.000 A couple cops.
00:44:03.000 But look, there's a judge there smiling, smirking as Tommy gets arrested, as he changes the course of British justice forever and throws a man in a cage for a year without a trial, where he will likely be murdered.
00:44:18.000 We're going to win, globalists.
00:44:20.000 America's done this before. 0.95
00:44:22.000 We've dealt with these smirking monarchs before in their white powdered wigs. 0.96
00:44:26.000 We booted them out.
00:44:28.000 And I think the nationalists, the proud working classes of all these countries are going to boot out their elitists.
00:44:36.000 So I guarantee you, in the long run, we will get our countries back.
00:44:41.000 The West will get its culture back.