Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - July 24, 2018


Ep 159 | Anti-PC Prof Special | Get Off My Lawn


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In this episode, we take a look at Professor Michael Rechtenwald, who was a Marxist and a communist. He was fired from his job at a liberal college, and now he s suing the school for being a pedophile.

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00:00:20.000 Live from New York, get off my launch, Gavin, and filling up with gasoline.
00:00:30.000 Fidel Castro's brother spies a rich lady who's crying over the luxury disappointment.
00:00:37.000 So he walks over and he's trying to sympathise with her.
00:00:43.000 thinks to the east and warner that the third world is just around the corner
00:01:00.000 In the Soviet Union, a scientist is blinded by the resumption of nuclear testing and he is reminded that Dr. Oppenheimer's optimism failed at the first hurdle.
00:01:20.000 That was Billy Bragg from the album Great Leap Forward, wherein he praises Mao the entire time.
00:01:30.000 I was a big fan of that album.
00:01:31.000 I still like Billy Bragg, but he is absolutely mad in that he is a communist.
00:01:37.000 And to this day, he supports Mao and Marx and all of that crap that you're taught in college to love.
00:01:44.000 I have a very special episode for you today, folks.
00:01:47.000 I'm devoting the entire thing to Professor Michael Rechtenwald.
00:01:53.000 Well, why, Gavin?
00:01:54.000 That's a little esoteric.
00:01:55.000 Why are you focusing on some random humanities prof at the college near your house?
00:02:02.000 Because it is indicative of a bigger pattern.
00:02:04.000 And the bigger pattern here is that university, college, post-secondary education has become a joke.
00:02:12.000 Michael Rechtenwald was a commie.
00:02:15.000 He was a Marxist, but he was a reasonable one who was open-minded and wanted the kids to learn.
00:02:21.000 He wanted to preach truth.
00:02:23.000 And he was vilified for this.
00:02:25.000 All this man did was say politically correct culture is out of control.
00:02:29.000 And I'm noticing it affect my students detrimentally, affect their learning.
00:02:33.000 Same as Jordan Lee Peterson, same as Lindsey Shepard, and same as a lot of people in non-academic fields like John Stossel.
00:02:42.000 Anyone who dares to stray from the liberal narrative is punished.
00:02:46.000 And the liberal narrative keeps moving farther and farther to the left.
00:02:49.000 So you know what that does?
00:02:50.000 It ends up recruiting more right-wingers because they're told, if you're not having sex with a trans woman right now and performing fellatio on her penis, then you're a Nazi.
00:03:03.000 So people go, I guess I'm a Nazi then.
00:03:06.000 I'm going to Nazi it up.
00:03:08.000 Thanks.
00:03:08.000 Now, I'm obviously exaggerating.
00:03:10.000 It's not like they become racists or fascists or whatever, but they do become conservative.
00:03:15.000 They walk away from the left.
00:03:17.000 So that's why I think Michael Rechtenwald justifies an entire show because he personifies this trend.
00:03:26.000 And this trend is big.
00:03:28.000 It is about the left, the far left, politicizing apolitical people and making them right-wing conservative political activists.
00:03:37.000 And it's also about the death of education.
00:03:39.000 I honestly think to this day, in this day and age, you are punishing children if you send them to school.
00:03:44.000 And I know I'm going to have fights with my liberal wife when my kids are old enough to go to college because she still has this attitude that no matter what you want to take, drama, speech pathology, modern dance, you should go to university and get a good education. 1.00
00:03:58.000 So mark my words, my daughter's 10 now.
00:04:02.000 In eight years, there are going to be some big fights at the McInnis house because I don't want my kids going to college if it's not STEM, science, technology, engineering, and math.
00:04:14.000 I bet even then, in eight years, all those will be solid.
00:04:17.000 I bet there'll be like trans chemistry class and there'll be math that is friendly to people of color.
00:04:25.000 Math for people of color, African math, I bet will be a class.
00:04:28.000 I bet it is right now.
00:04:30.000 Crying out loud.
00:04:30.000 I know they got new math.
00:04:32.000 Anyway, so you've heard of Michael Rechtenwald.
00:04:36.000 He was a liberal professor who had an anonymous Twitter account called NYU Prof, doesn't like PC or something like that.
00:04:44.000 And he got caught.
00:04:46.000 Well, he voluntarily admitted that it was him.
00:04:48.000 He was quite proud of the account, actually.
00:04:50.000 It was not a radical account.
00:04:51.000 It was nothing alt-right about it or anything really controversial.
00:04:56.000 He got caught with that.
00:04:57.000 He was fired.
00:04:58.000 Then he was reinstated and promoted.
00:05:00.000 I don't know what happened there.
00:05:01.000 I thought it was Trump.
00:05:04.000 And now he is suing the school for basically just abuse.
00:05:08.000 He's a deplorable NYU prof. There he is.
00:05:11.000 He's just constantly getting abused at school for he's being treated like a Nazi pedophile.
00:05:17.000 And he's obviously neither of those things.
00:05:19.000 So let's get the story from the horse's mouth.
00:05:21.000 And you'll see why I want to devote a whole show to it.
00:05:25.000 Michael, are you there?
00:05:27.000 Yes, I am.
00:05:28.000 Now, Michael Rechdemwald, you were a professor at NYU, and you had an anonymous Twitter account.
00:05:36.000 What was it called again?
00:05:37.000 It's the Anti-PC NYU Prof. Anti-PC NYU Prof. Now, the way I remember the story going is there was a very funny account.
00:05:47.000 You'd make jokes about PC and, like Jordan Peterson, poke fun at its inevitable demise.
00:05:54.000 And then you got doxxed.
00:05:56.000 They got found out.
00:05:57.000 You were punished by the school.
00:05:59.000 But then right after Trump was elected, it seemed like the school had to eat crow and rehire you with a promotion.
00:06:08.000 And I was included in my list of wins.
00:06:11.000 But is that the full story?
00:06:14.000 it's a part of the story.
00:06:15.000 It's, uh, and it's slightly, I was never fired, but I was put on paid leave.
00:06:25.000 They more or less strong-armed me into taking a paid medical leave.
00:06:31.000 So, it is even more interesting than this than you suggested because when my interview appeared in the Washington Square News, in which an NYU student reporter interviewed me after finding out about my Twitter account, I decided to go public and to go on the record as myself because I thought there's nothing objectionable here about what I'm saying.
00:06:54.000 This is an alternate perspective that needs to be heard about these bias reporting hotlines, safe spaces, you know, trigger warnings, the whole nine yards.
00:07:05.000 And the no platforming of speakers, which you've experienced at NYU yourself.
00:07:10.000 I was there.
00:07:11.000 We'll talk about that.
00:07:15.000 Immediately, a committee after this interview had appeared, a committee called the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Group wrote a condemnation of me in which they declared me, quote, guilty for the structure of my thinking, end quote.
00:07:35.000 So literally was accused of wrongthink.
00:07:38.000 Yeah.
00:07:39.000 And they furthermore said that I was low on the ethical totem poll.
00:07:44.000 Wow.
00:07:45.000 And a few other choice things, very nasty.
00:07:48.000 Then the same day I was summoned by my dean out of nowhere.
00:07:52.000 I certainly didn't ask for this meeting.
00:07:55.000 I was summoned by my dean to his office asking me, saying, you know, can you come over?
00:08:00.000 I have something has come up.
00:08:02.000 So I said, yeah, I knew what it was.
00:08:03.000 And I said, yeah, I'm pretty sure I know what this is.
00:08:05.000 So I get there.
00:08:08.000 He pulls me real close to himself, like within a few seconds of getting in the office.
00:08:12.000 And he says, I just want you to know this has nothing to do with your Twitter account or publicity.
00:08:18.000 And I was like, okay.
00:08:20.000 And then he goes, but if you don't mind, I would like the head of human resources to join us.
00:08:27.000 You should have been recording it.
00:08:29.000 I know.
00:08:29.000 Well, you know, this Lindsey Graham thing hadn't happened.
00:08:32.000 Had I saw that first, I would have been, I just didn't think of recording it.
00:08:36.000 I just didn't occur to me.
00:08:38.000 It was like you were too trusting of the system.
00:08:42.000 Absolutely.
00:08:44.000 I was.
00:08:45.000 Absolutely.
00:08:45.000 Because when they got in there, they started to suggest that they went right back to the Twitter account and during my interview.
00:08:56.000 Yeah.
00:08:56.000 And said, you know, people think this is a cry for help.
00:08:59.000 I'm like, what people?
00:09:01.000 Yeah.
00:09:02.000 So they tried to make it into a mental illness issue.
00:09:05.000 Like, there was all kind of suggestions like, you're mentally ill.
00:09:08.000 You must be crazy to say these things.
00:09:10.000 Yeah, you must be insane if you don't agree with my ideas of 32 genders and trans.
00:09:16.000 Basically, I'm the insane one.
00:09:18.000 That's right.
00:09:19.000 There's 72 in England, but there's 54 here.
00:09:23.000 So I guess there's some cultural variation.
00:09:25.000 Someone's insane even in those two groups.
00:09:27.000 One of them is wrong.
00:09:30.000 So, yeah, I mean, that's the kind of things I was talking about.
00:09:33.000 And, you know, they squeezed me out.
00:09:36.000 And then immediately, strangely enough, I got a call from the New York Post as soon as that meeting ended as if she had a bug on the wall or something.
00:09:44.000 And I told her all about what happened.
00:09:45.000 And I said, do you think there's any relationship between this relieve of absence, the interview, you know, and the interview that I had published?
00:09:54.000 And she goes, are you kidding?
00:09:55.000 She said, did you read the open letter against you?
00:09:58.000 I hadn't seen it yet.
00:10:00.000 So she points me to this open letter, you know, that had castigated me severely.
00:10:06.000 And then she said, there is no question.
00:10:09.000 You are being forced out for your views.
00:10:12.000 So I had no choice but to go public because I figured it would have buried me alive.
00:10:17.000 Oh, yeah, without a doubt.
00:10:18.000 So wait a minute.
00:10:19.000 Let's go back a step.
00:10:20.000 How did it, was it discovered that that was your Twitter account?
00:10:24.000 What happened was the tweets somehow insinuated themselves onto the alerts of one of the NYU's reporters.
00:10:32.000 And so she contacted me through direct message on Twitter and said, you know, are you really an NYU professor?
00:10:39.000 And I said, yes.
00:10:40.000 And then she said, if so, would you please sit for an interview with me?
00:10:43.000 And I agreed.
00:10:44.000 I wasn't sure I was going to go as myself.
00:10:47.000 I wasn't sure that I would actually, you know, become, you know, go out as myself, but I decided to after I did the interview because I thought this is, first of all, I liked some of the things I said.
00:11:00.000 I wanted to own them, actually, because I thought they were well said and that they were important.
00:11:05.000 And, you know, I just, I said, you know, this, what they're now calling the control left or the alt left is out of control.
00:11:13.000 They're totalitarians.
00:11:15.000 They're driving people out to the far right.
00:11:18.000 They're producing the alt-right if anybody is.
00:11:21.000 They're literally deeming you mentally ill if you don't agree with them.
00:11:26.000 That's Stalin in a nutshell. 0.58
00:11:28.000 It is very Stalin-esque, unbelievably.
00:11:30.000 And then that committee is completely Orwellian.
00:11:34.000 You know, everything, I call it the conformity, inequity, and exclusion group.
00:11:41.000 Because if you don't conform, you will be excluded.
00:11:44.000 And there's certainly inequity.
00:11:46.000 And by the way, my brother pointed this out when he was at Ottawa U up in Canada.
00:11:50.000 A portion of your tuition as a student goes to these groups that then control you and restrict you from getting a full education.
00:11:59.000 So you are being extorted and forced to pay for your own policing almost.
00:12:06.000 That's a bad term because somebody guys do that.
00:12:08.000 Indoctrination and policing, yeah.
00:12:09.000 Yeah, your own indoctrination, your own restrictions you're paying for.
00:12:13.000 It's bizarre.
00:12:14.000 Yeah, I mean, if you talk about, if you look at some of the, for example, just some of the orientation things that are going on at student orientation, freshman orientation, where you can't call a freshman anymore, there's first-year students.
00:12:27.000 Oh, because man, I see.
00:12:29.000 Yes.
00:12:31.000 First-year students.
00:12:33.000 They have these things called tunnels of oppression.
00:12:35.000 I don't know if you've heard of them.
00:12:36.000 Oh, I have heard of these.
00:12:37.000 Yeah, that's amazing.
00:12:38.000 Where you go through this tunnel, and while you're going through it, minority students or others scream epithets and swear words at you.
00:12:48.000 And this is required for orientation.
00:12:51.000 You have to be utterly denigrated.
00:12:54.000 And you're paying for this.
00:12:57.000 But if they just unleash all the requirements and stop, you know, with this racial bias and thwarting Asians.
00:13:05.000 Aren't these really good schools like NYU and McGill and Harvard?
00:13:10.000 Aren't they going to be all Asian? 1.00
00:13:12.000 And so you're going to have Asians walking through tunnels with white kids screaming at them.
00:13:21.000 I mean, they're mostly Chinese students at NYU right now.
00:13:24.000 I mean, it's predominantly, we're getting so many Chinese students.
00:13:27.000 It's incredible.
00:13:28.000 And they're good students.
00:13:30.000 What do they need to learn about black racism, these Chinese students? 1.00
00:13:33.000 I mean, they have no clue what's going on.
00:13:33.000 I know.
00:13:35.000 Or they come over.
00:13:36.000 I start telling them about some of this stuff.
00:13:38.000 The whole thing is completely lost on them.
00:13:41.000 And then I talk about, you know, transgenderism and transgender theory.
00:13:45.000 And they are just like, are you kidding me?
00:13:48.000 They just can't believe it.
00:13:49.000 I said, yeah, this whole culture has gone amok.
00:13:51.000 Well, you talk about genocide and stuff.
00:13:54.000 China has mouth statues everywhere you go. 0.58
00:13:57.000 So they don't get the concept of this person committed a war crime.
00:14:01.000 He's the villain now.
00:14:02.000 They just go, well, you got to crack some eggs.
00:14:04.000 It was a rough.
00:14:05.000 They don't.
00:14:06.000 Actually, I've talked to Chinese students.
00:14:08.000 I asked them, what is your history of the Cultural Revolution?
00:14:10.000 What do you know about the Cultural Revolution?
00:14:13.000 What is taught?
00:14:14.000 And I was told there's three sentences that are taught.
00:14:17.000 Three sentences.
00:14:18.000 Mao was the chairman.
00:14:21.000 It happened between 1968 and 1978.
00:14:24.000 And one other thing, I forget.
00:14:26.000 You know, that's it.
00:14:27.000 Three sentences.
00:14:28.000 Water under the bridge.
00:14:30.000 It's water under the bridge is the third one.
00:14:32.000 Yeah, 60 million people.
00:14:34.000 No, no, no, no.
00:14:35.000 No 60 million people.
00:14:36.000 None of that.
00:14:38.000 They don't hear any of it.
00:14:39.000 Well, that's, you know, that's the norm, I think.
00:14:41.000 You hear that in Russia.
00:14:42.000 You hear that all over the world.
00:14:44.000 Pull pot, you know, all these purges.
00:14:46.000 They just go, let's not dwell.
00:14:48.000 Whereas in the West, not only do we dwell on Hitler, but we ascribe him to everyone we disagree with. 0.66
00:14:54.000 But let's get back on track here.
00:14:55.000 So where are you now?
00:14:58.000 Are you still on paid leave?
00:15:00.000 No, I went back.
00:15:01.000 I went back after the fall of 2016.
00:15:04.000 I started back in the spring of 2017.
00:15:07.000 And that's when the real action began.
00:15:11.000 You won't believe it.
00:15:12.000 It got worse.
00:15:14.000 So first of all, let's just say that.
00:15:15.000 I want to save my dessert here.
00:15:17.000 So was your reinstating, did that have anything to do with Trump?
00:15:22.000 No, but here's the, you said that I got the promotion the day, you know, after Trump was elected.
00:15:27.000 Interestingly enough, I got the promotion the day before the election.
00:15:30.000 Oh, wow.
00:15:32.000 So I was promoted two full ranks from assistant to full professor.
00:15:36.000 I took a big giant quantum leap to the highest rank.
00:15:40.000 A great leap forward.
00:15:44.000 That's right.
00:15:45.000 And then I went back.
00:15:48.000 Well, first of all, I was universally and have been universally shunned by my colleagues.
00:15:53.000 It's as if I'm a Nazi, in fact.
00:15:55.000 I've been called a Nazi.
00:15:57.000 I was called a Nazi at the night you spoke.
00:15:59.000 I could tell you about that in a minute.
00:16:01.000 Yeah, I've been called everything, but it's as if I was a Nazi and people wouldn't get on the elevator with me.
00:16:07.000 Wow.
00:16:08.000 I mean, people acted like I was a moral leopard, like it was a contagion that had to be quarantined.
00:16:16.000 It's like being black in the 30s.
00:16:18.000 It's, yeah, it was.
00:16:20.000 Did you have your own water fountain?
00:16:22.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:16:24.000 I mean, not getting on the same elevator with you.
00:16:27.000 I mean, just unbelievable.
00:16:28.000 So at the end, on the very last day of that first semester back, the spring of 2017, an email blizzard started from these people, a contingent of them, blasting me like crazy because I mentioned my book and that I was going to get in advance for it.
00:16:45.000 And they went off.
00:16:47.000 And they said, you know, they called me everything from misogynist, racist, sexist, short pants, white devil.
00:16:56.000 I don't get the short pants.
00:16:57.000 Is that what Nazis were?
00:16:58.000 I don't know.
00:16:59.000 That's some sort of code in African American parlance.
00:17:02.000 I really don't.
00:17:03.000 I haven't looked it up.
00:17:04.000 I've heard about it from others.
00:17:06.000 That short pants is something as some sort of a, it's supposed to be shameful to have short pants.
00:17:12.000 I don't know.
00:17:14.000 Galters be damned. 1.00
00:17:15.000 Yes, short pants, white devil.
00:17:19.000 And drug addict.
00:17:22.000 They said I was dangerous to have as a professor around minority students, especially women.
00:17:30.000 Meanwhile, I have higher ratings than all of them.
00:17:32.000 Well, you're liberal, aren't you?
00:17:34.000 Listen, Gavin, I was actually a leftist.
00:17:37.000 Yeah.
00:17:38.000 I was a leftist till they drove me out.
00:17:41.000 I was a leftist until I saw what totalitarian monsters they are.
00:17:46.000 That underneath of this egalitarian rhetoric, you just scrape it just a slight little micro, you know, micrometer, and you find a totalitarian everywhere.
00:17:58.000 All of America is going through this.
00:18:00.000 It's the whole walk away movement.
00:18:01.000 They're going, I thought we were against racism.
00:18:04.000 I thought we felt bad about slavery, and it's become, no, we're enforcing our ideas on innocent people and terrorizing anyone who disagrees.
00:18:12.000 And I think a lot of liberals are going, that's not what I signed up for.
00:18:15.000 I know.
00:18:16.000 I ran away rather than walk away.
00:18:18.000 I mean, it was, I mean, because not only was I being besieged by all these colleagues, but thousands and thousands of people on the internet, you know, just attacking me viciously.
00:18:29.000 I mean, you know, you can always walk away from that, but it gets pretty ugly.
00:18:32.000 And it got, I was a member of a communist group, a left communist group.
00:18:37.000 And they actually put me through a cyber show trial, if you will, in which they listed a number of my crimes, which were appearing on Fox News, criticizing the left while Trump was just coming into office, things like that.
00:18:54.000 In other words, I wasn't part of the resistance, and that was enough to get me condemned.
00:18:59.000 And I said, and they were about to vote, and I said, don't bother.
00:19:02.000 I quit.
00:19:03.000 I want nothing to do with you people at all.
00:19:07.000 You committed propaganda crimes.
00:19:09.000 Yes, then they stripped my name from three essays I'd written and published and they put someone else's name on them.
00:19:16.000 Because after all, everything is collective and can be reassigned at any time.
00:19:20.000 That's amazing.
00:19:22.000 Yeah, I had a complete gestalt shift.
00:19:26.000 And now I could say, I guess I'm a classical liberal.
00:19:29.000 I mean, I just believe in, you know, individual rights because, after all, there's nothing else because you can't have group or goodwill or good, you know, common good without individual good rights and individual good.
00:19:43.000 After all, they just use the common common will crush you every time.
00:19:47.000 Yeah, well, equality means everyone's life is equally shitty.
00:19:51.000 That's right.
00:19:52.000 They just reduce every, it's, I call it subtractive egalitarianism.
00:19:57.000 Yeah, some people get the extraordinary by, yeah, by taking things away and taking privileges, so-called privileges away from everybody, just reduce, reduce, reduce everyone down.
00:20:07.000 Let the extraordinary thrive.
00:20:09.000 Let someone invent a printer, a camera, an iPhone.
00:20:13.000 Let them improve our lives.
00:20:15.000 Don't hold them back.
00:20:15.000 Exactly.
00:20:16.000 All right, so where are you at now?
00:20:19.000 Well, I said about this email barrage took place on official NYU email for four days, going out to over 120 people.
00:20:30.000 And NYU did nothing about it.
00:20:32.000 So I sued them.
00:20:33.000 I sued the professors that engaged in this defamation of character.
00:20:38.000 And I sued the university for not doing anything about it.
00:20:42.000 And that's what's happening right now.
00:20:44.000 So that trial is going on.
00:20:46.000 And you're still employed at NYU?
00:20:48.000 Yes, I am.
00:20:49.000 Without suing your employer.
00:20:51.000 And what kind of classes do you teach?
00:20:51.000 Yeah.
00:20:54.000 I teach basically academic writing, cultural history, things like that.
00:21:01.000 I'm a humanities scholar, and I came up to my PhD is in what's called literary and cultural studies.
00:21:09.000 And so I was trained deeply in the Marxist, post-Marxist, and neo-Marxist, if you will, and post-modernist theory.
00:21:21.000 I mean, I have a degree basically in post-modern theory.
00:21:24.000 So I know where all this crap came from.
00:21:27.000 And that's what I talk about in my book, which is coming out in August.
00:21:30.000 So you're a Marxist who was a member of a communist group who thought things are out of control here.
00:21:37.000 Let's slow it down with the PC.
00:21:39.000 And you got attacked.
00:21:40.000 You got cannibalized.
00:21:42.000 And you've survived the mob and are looking back now at all that stuff going, what a waste.
00:21:48.000 Were you wrong from day one?
00:21:50.000 Or did they change?
00:21:51.000 I basically wrote a history of errors, you know, my own and that of others.
00:21:55.000 That's basically what I just did.
00:21:57.000 And it's just extraordinary.
00:22:00.000 I can see what happened to me and why, in fact, I got into, you know, so deeply indoctrinated because they make it a requirement professionally.
00:22:10.000 You can't advance professionally unless you buy into leftist dogma.
00:22:14.000 There's no way.
00:22:16.000 I saw people get thrown out of our PhD program for being conservative.
00:22:20.000 Thrown out.
00:22:21.000 Students often ask me, they say, should I just lie in class?
00:22:24.000 And Ben Shapiro's answer to that is yes.
00:22:28.000 Lie, be a Marxist, get your degree, and then get rich and say in your face.
00:22:34.000 I say the opposite.
00:22:35.000 I say write the truth, write good essays with a strong hypothesis and supporting arguments.
00:22:42.000 And if you get a D and get kicked out, you died with your boots on.
00:22:45.000 And that degree wouldn't have been worth anything anyway.
00:22:47.000 Excuse me.
00:22:48.000 I agree, because if you just ascent a seed and go along with it, you're helping produce this culture, which is completely, you know, it's completely tilted, utterly, completely biased.
00:23:00.000 It's worse than biased.
00:23:02.000 You can't even say certain things.
00:23:05.000 There are so many things that are verboten.
00:23:07.000 It's incredible.
00:23:07.000 Well, I've noticed white men in college, when they stand up to say something, they have this caveat they have to introduce before they open their mouths.
00:23:16.000 And it says, hi, I understand that I'm a white male and I grew up middle class and I am speaking from a position of privilege, but do you know where the restrooms are?
00:23:27.000 Every single time.
00:23:28.000 Which one?
00:23:29.000 The mask?
00:23:30.000 The man's room?
00:23:31.000 The men's room?
00:23:32.000 Sorry, do you know what restrooms are? 1.00
00:23:34.000 That's what he meant to ask.
00:23:36.000 Yeah.
00:23:36.000 I'm at the point now where I think it's child abuse to send your kid to school because he's going, especially NYU with his 40 grand a year or whatever it is, you're going like 100 grand in debt to come out stupider.
00:23:51.000 It's 75 grand, first of all.
00:23:53.000 What?
00:23:54.000 It's 75 grand.
00:23:55.000 NYU is 75 grand a year?
00:23:57.000 Yes.
00:23:58.000 Wow, I need to update my research.
00:24:00.000 But it seemed like it was 40 grand last time I checked, and that was a few years ago.
00:24:04.000 No, it's 75.
00:24:05.000 And that's not counting, you know, your party money, which is, you know, enormous.
00:24:10.000 But yeah, 75 grand.
00:24:12.000 There's this thing called progressive stacking.
00:24:14.000 This is a pedagogical tool in which the professor calls on people only in the order of their subordination.
00:24:25.000 So the most subordinate get called on first, and it goes up the line until you reach the right male.
00:24:31.000 Of course, you never reach the white straight male.
00:24:33.000 They're never allowed to speak.
00:24:34.000 That poor handicapped black girl in the chair is just like, okay, well, the answer to that question is that the hedgehog, like she must have a sore throat by the end of every class because she's got to answer every single question. 1.00
00:24:49.000 And they don't like this either because this is ridiculously highlighting their – It's embarrassing and it's uncomfortable.
00:25:08.000 They don't want to talk about this stuff all day.
00:25:10.000 Nobody wants to talk about, of course, the advocates and the activists do.
00:25:14.000 That's all they want to talk about.
00:25:15.000 Yeah, out of the few black people I hang out with, if there's one thing they don't want to talk about, it's how black they are and their blackness and blackety black, black and Malcolm X. Blacketty, black, black, black. 0.96
00:25:26.000 It's the last thing on their mind.
00:25:28.000 They want to move on.
00:25:30.000 Yeah.
00:25:31.000 So I don't see you having a future at NYU.
00:25:34.000 Thank you.
00:25:36.000 Like, how could you possibly go on?
00:25:40.000 Even if they can't fire you, whatever, just the morale of the elevator and everything.
00:25:45.000 There's more to the story.
00:25:47.000 They moved my office.
00:25:49.000 They suggested that my office be moved.
00:25:50.000 Guess where they moved me?
00:25:52.000 Next to the bathrooms.
00:25:53.000 No, this is even more poetically unbelievable than that.
00:25:56.000 The Russian department.
00:26:02.000 So Russian, Russian, Russian, you Russian, Russian.
00:26:06.000 I'm a Russian bot, and apparently I fixed the election.
00:26:10.000 And, you know, that's what we do over there.
00:26:12.000 Well, they're going to try to mentally abuse you until you break.
00:26:16.000 This is a long attrition.
00:26:19.000 Right.
00:26:20.000 They wouldn't have anybody help move my books.
00:26:23.000 You know, as a professor, you accumulate a lot of books.
00:26:25.000 You should have.
00:26:26.000 If you don't have a lot of books, then what are you doing?
00:26:28.000 So nobody would move.
00:26:29.000 They wouldn't get anybody to move my books.
00:26:30.000 So they put me in this room with empty steel bookshelves, you know, completely vacant.
00:26:38.000 And so I'm sitting, that's where I sit.
00:26:40.000 So there's no sign of, you know, and nobody speaks to me.
00:26:43.000 That's the other thing.
00:26:44.000 The people act like I don't exist.
00:26:46.000 I'm like this person, this non-person.
00:26:49.000 Do you want to stay there?
00:26:50.000 I mean, no, I mean, I want to get out of there, but in a good way, you know, obviously.
00:26:57.000 I only have a the difference here is that I'm, while I have rank in my program, they don't have tenure in my program.
00:27:04.000 So NYU has a very spotty system in which some programs and departments have tenure and others don't.
00:27:11.000 So I'm on a five-year contract and it ends at the end of May 22.
00:27:17.000 And the thing is that I'll never get renewed because the renewal committee will be drawn from my faculty.
00:27:24.000 In other words, the people that hate me.
00:27:26.000 So you're right.
00:27:27.000 There's no future.
00:27:27.000 That's why I had to sue.
00:27:29.000 Right.
00:27:29.000 Well, you might as well go the other, the remaining few years.
00:27:32.000 Why not?
00:27:33.000 Right.
00:27:33.000 I'll fight it out and do things.
00:27:35.000 And they can't do anything to me unless I do something insane, which I don't do.
00:27:39.000 I've never been like some sort of a harasser of women.
00:27:44.000 Listen, I've just been an academic, actually with way more publications than any of my colleagues.
00:27:49.000 And, you know, just that's another thing.
00:27:51.000 They just hate me.
00:27:53.000 In general, they don't like accomplishments.
00:27:56.000 And, you know, they just don't like white men, mostly straight white men.
00:27:59.000 And I'm probably the only one.
00:28:00.000 Well, they especially hate straight white men who are unapologetic because their entire ethos is built on shame and slavery.
00:28:07.000 And we took it from the Indians. 1.00
00:28:08.000 And if you acknowledge that and you're perpetually apologetic, well, okay.
00:28:12.000 But when you don't acknowledge that, you're more than just justifying it in their minds.
00:28:16.000 You're saying our education from kindergarten up was a complete lie.
00:28:21.000 And that's like telling a religious person that God doesn't exist.
00:28:24.000 It's blasphemy.
00:28:26.000 And so you've discredited their entire existence.
00:28:28.000 So either I'm a liar or you leave.
00:28:31.000 They'd rather you leave.
00:28:33.000 And that's what I did wrong when I came out with that interview is I stopped groveling and I started to say things that I said, because I'm a white straight male, I'm deemed ethically very, I'm very low on the ethical totem pole.
00:28:50.000 And then they verified that and said, yes, you are very low on the ethical totem pole.
00:28:54.000 Yeah, you say it as an insult and they repeat it back as a fact.
00:28:59.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:29:01.000 Okay, we've gone way over time here because you're too interesting, but I think it's important in all interviews to bring it back to what really matters, which is me.
00:29:10.000 Yes.
00:29:11.000 You were at NYU the night I was pepper sprayed.
00:29:14.000 Yes, I was there.
00:29:15.000 I came to that talk.
00:29:16.000 I had spoken at the exact same room the week before to the Republican club I had invited.
00:29:23.000 Of course, I didn't have the draw that you did.
00:29:26.000 All the students were there, but it wasn't a night of fanfare and madness like it was for you.
00:29:32.000 And I know you got pepper scrayed on the way in.
00:29:35.000 I was inside the building.
00:29:36.000 I had taught in that exact building before the event, and I went to the event.
00:29:42.000 And after they started into the chants, which really infuriated me, I started yelling at the students saying, you know, you're a bunch of robots.
00:29:54.000 This is academia.
00:29:55.000 This is the college.
00:29:56.000 This is university.
00:29:58.000 You guys are just programmed robots.
00:30:00.000 You just keep repeating robotic phrases.
00:30:03.000 Is this really what you want?
00:30:04.000 Is this what you want to be?
00:30:06.000 And then they interviewed me, the New York University student newspaper, the Washington Square News, after, and they started, while they were interviewing me, one student kept calling me, you're a Nazi, you're a Nazi, you're a Nazi.
00:30:19.000 And let's put it this way, if he hadn't been a student, he would have been on the floor.
00:30:26.000 Yeah, I was infuriated, you know.
00:30:29.000 Well, that newspaper is remarkably biased.
00:30:31.000 In fact, after I got pepper sprayed, I saw this girl. 0.96
00:30:34.000 She looks like a Mong Shi She. 1.00
00:30:35.000 And she took a picture of me.
00:30:37.000 And she said something about there.
00:30:39.000 She gave it to Antifa.
00:30:40.000 And they talked about me crying after I was pepper sprayed, which is pretty inevitable.
00:30:44.000 It's hard not to cry or at least tear.
00:30:48.000 And then I saw that she, so I doxed her and I said, this is the woman who took the picture, blah, blah, blah.
00:30:53.000 And then the Washington Square thing had a thing about, please stop attacking us.
00:30:57.000 We're not a Nazi.
00:30:58.000 And then I just saw recently the New York Times was announcing their new roster.
00:31:02.000 And there was the Moshi Shi, who was a total, you know, everyone's a Nazi bullshit artist, included in the new New York Times. 0.78
00:31:10.000 And you realize where these little student radicals end up is in mainstream publications.
00:31:15.000 Yeah.
00:31:16.000 This is right.
00:31:16.000 And, you know, we'll bring it back to you in a second.
00:31:20.000 Good, good.
00:31:20.000 But this is why people say, oh, this is, you know, when I first came out against this, a lot of leftists said, you know, this is just a small phenomenon at, you know, twinky colleges full of blue-haired kids that means nothing.
00:31:34.000 This is producing ideology for the whole society.
00:31:34.000 I said, you're wrong.
00:31:39.000 This is spreading everywhere.
00:31:41.000 And if it is, it's just taken over.
00:31:43.000 Look at Google.
00:31:44.000 This place is a madhouse.
00:31:46.000 Yeah, Google is hiring the SPLC.
00:31:48.000 The SPLC is pretty much as radical as Antifa when it comes to deciding who a Nazi is.
00:31:54.000 So we essentially have Antifa running Google, and we have CNN talking about how they achieve peace through violence, which isn't that literally in 1984?
00:32:08.000 Wildly.
00:32:09.000 I mean, you have, if you've looked at the James Damore law case, you know, the claim, the complaint, you have him being fired for saying there's a difference between men and women.
00:32:21.000 And there are people there at Google who identify as a wingless yellow dragonfly and the side of An ornate building.
00:32:31.000 That's their identity.
00:32:33.000 They probably got a promotion.
00:32:34.000 Are you being hyperbolic?
00:32:35.000 I never can tell anymore.
00:32:37.000 This is literally what they identify as.
00:32:39.000 This is not hyperbole.
00:32:39.000 I'm serious.
00:32:41.000 They identify as a wingless yellow dragonfly.
00:32:45.000 A wingless yellow dragonfly would immediately starve to death.
00:32:50.000 Okay, that's good.
00:32:52.000 But unfortunately, this one hasn't.
00:32:55.000 And they're also the side of an ornate building.
00:32:58.000 So that's their identity.
00:33:01.000 And you have to talk to them like they are that, I guess.
00:33:04.000 But James DeMore gets fired.
00:33:06.000 And no doubt, someone like that probably gets promoted.
00:33:08.000 So in other words, you have to be psychotic to work at Google.
00:33:12.000 He's another guy, by the way, like you, I would describe as essentially liberal, classically liberal.
00:33:17.000 I would even argue Jordan Peterson is like that.
00:33:20.000 John Stossel was another guy who's libertarian, pretty liberal dude.
00:33:24.000 He was also in the exact same boat as you at ABC in the elevator where he was a pariah and no one would look at him.
00:33:30.000 I mean, these people are basically you're 100% with us or you're 100% against us.
00:33:35.000 And 100% includes the radical, radical left.
00:33:39.000 Interestingly, right?
00:33:40.000 So, I mean, here's people that say there's no such thing as binaries and gender, but they're the most binary thinking people on earth.
00:33:48.000 I mean, everything is binary to them, except gender, which is a, you know, a spectrum.
00:33:55.000 And I say that, you know, it's the new, it's the new, you know, it's the new monastic declaration is how many, how many genders can fit on a spectrum rather than how many angels on the head of a pin.
00:34:10.000 This is the new medieval metaphysics.
00:34:14.000 Well, I don't believe that any of them believe any of this.
00:34:16.000 Like, for example, at the NYU talk, I came out and they were like, Nazi, Nazi.
00:34:19.000 And my first line was, we got three problems in this country.
00:34:24.000 The woman, the Negro, and the Jew. 0.99
00:34:29.000 And everyone's jaw just went.
00:34:32.000 And then I said, just kidding, obviously, just kidding.
00:34:35.000 But isn't it interesting that your jaws dropped?
00:34:38.000 Because you're accusing me of that.
00:34:39.000 And then when I said that, you were gobsmacked.
00:34:42.000 So you clearly don't think I'm that guy.
00:34:44.000 This is just fashion.
00:34:45.000 And I took the microphone because there was three.
00:34:47.000 And I went up to the guys chanting, who's campus R campus?
00:34:51.000 Who's campus R campus?
00:34:53.000 I said, here's a mic.
00:34:54.000 Come on up with me.
00:34:55.000 And you can say what you want.
00:34:56.000 And the closer, I call it the radioactive dick mic because the closer I got to their face, the more they go, who's campus Ramp?
00:35:03.000 And then when I take it away, who's campus R campus?
00:35:07.000 They don't want to talk.
00:35:09.000 They don't want truth or resolution.
00:35:11.000 They just want to yell.
00:35:12.000 They, in fact, I think they're so unhabitated to actually making an argument that their minds have become completely atrophied.
00:35:23.000 Yes, I agree.
00:35:23.000 They can't make an argument.
00:35:25.000 Chanting and idiotic phrase mongering.
00:35:28.000 You know, I said that about the committee that wrote that condemnation.
00:35:32.000 I said all these phrases, plug-and-play memes that they pull off the web, you know, like there's just this, there's this concatenation of idiotic phrases that they grab and plug together.
00:35:43.000 And they're charged language and it's supposed to mean something.
00:35:46.000 It sort of vibrates at a higher radioactive frequency than other language, but otherwise it's meaningless.
00:35:52.000 You know, it's just like, they just plug and play all this stuff, throw it together, and that's voila.
00:35:57.000 There's your SJW essay or whatever.
00:36:01.000 Last question, Michael.
00:36:03.000 In your class, I want a semblance of hope here.
00:36:07.000 What percentage of your students in any particular class have some sort of genuine curiosity and are not dogmatic and generally want to learn truthful statements?
00:36:18.000 That's a great question.
00:36:19.000 I could qualify that by saying in the first year students, among the first year students, the percentage is about 80.
00:36:26.000 Okay, but after they become indoctrinated into the junior and senior years, the minds close and narrow ever so gradually, but quite frankly, dramatically in the end.
00:36:26.000 Oh, wow.
00:36:40.000 And it's about 80% or 20% remaining.
00:36:43.000 So they indoctrinate a good deal of them.
00:36:48.000 And we lose them through this.
00:36:50.000 And they are no longer entertaining ideas or perspectives.
00:36:53.000 They are now becoming phrase repeaters, phrase mongers.
00:36:57.000 Year one, 80% open-minded and curious.
00:37:00.000 Years, say, three and four, you're down to 20%.
00:37:03.000 20%.
00:37:04.000 You would lose 60%.
00:37:05.000 There's a 60% attrition rate.
00:37:08.000 And then out of that 60%, a good half of them are actual complete ideologues.
00:37:14.000 They're utterly, they're part of the robotic left, if you will.
00:37:19.000 What a tragedy.
00:37:20.000 I mean, it's really the end of secondary, post-secondary education.
00:37:25.000 It's tragic.
00:37:26.000 It's a tragedy.
00:37:27.000 I mean, if anything, I stay around because I think I have to.
00:37:31.000 I mean, if I don't do it, who's going to do this?
00:37:33.000 And apparently, there's, I mean, apparently the administration is all behind all this.
00:37:39.000 It's Social Justice University all the way.
00:37:42.000 They don't see the problem there.
00:37:44.000 I do.
00:37:44.000 I think it's a problem.
00:37:45.000 No, I remember at my talk, the professor was telling everyone to be quiet, but it was almost like a nudge, nudge, wink, wink, don't be quiet.
00:37:51.000 And they didn't remove anyone.
00:37:53.000 In fact, I think they enjoyed it.
00:37:55.000 And I told the professor as much, that he was encouraging this behavior.
00:38:00.000 Yes.
00:38:01.000 And I liked what you said to the administrator at the end.
00:38:03.000 That was great.
00:38:04.000 What was that?
00:38:05.000 You, sir, are an ass.
00:38:10.000 That was great.
00:38:10.000 Classic, Gav.
00:38:12.000 Michael, thank you very much for coming on the show.
00:38:15.000 I usually only have guests on for like five to ten minutes, but this was just fascinating.
00:38:19.000 Oh, thank you for having me.
00:38:21.000 It's great talking to you.
00:38:21.000 I'm finally meeting you.
00:38:22.000 And I look forward to further travails down the line as we go.
00:38:27.000 Yes, best of luck.
00:38:29.000 Thank you so much.
00:38:33.000 Speaking of me and the relevant megalomania, I just remembered I did interview Billy Bragg once when he was playing in New York.
00:38:39.000 That was a geezer who introduced the show.
00:38:42.000 And he had a bloody bad cold.
00:38:45.000 And he was using a tincture.
00:38:47.000 He was boiling water in a tincture and then putting a towel over and a nail in it.
00:38:51.000 But he's also having caffeine, which I don't think is a good idea.
00:38:55.000 They're both homeopathic, though.
00:38:56.000 Let's check it out.
00:38:59.000 So what you do is you put it in boiling water and you put your head under the towel and you breathe it in and it goes right down into your lungs and cleans you out for an hour or so.
00:39:11.000 It's amazing stuff.
00:39:13.000 You shouldn't be having caffeine.
00:39:15.000 That's brutal.
00:39:16.000 Everyone has the advice, man.
00:39:17.000 Give me a break.
00:39:18.000 Okay.
00:39:19.000 There we go.
00:39:21.000 Great guy, Billy Bragg.
00:39:22.000 Beautiful songs.
00:39:23.000 The only bad thing is he's a communist and he doesn't see that that is advocating genocide.
00:39:29.000 Michael Rechtenwald figured it out by getting to know these people, getting to know the ideology and experiencing it for real life.