Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - August 23, 2018


Ep 175 | Not a Crime | Get Off My Lawn


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37 minutes

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Ezra Levant is back from his trip to London. He's got the inside scoop on the Robinson case, including the details of the trial and the aftermath of the hearing. Plus, a new segment called Who's Racist? and the return of Meathead.

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00:00:37.000 thing I guess that wasn't a drug dealer that was a rich white dad But I guess I'm saying when they they are African American when I hear terrible African American music I assume it's a drug dealer. 1.00
00:00:47.000 Can you show that video?
00:00:49.000 Because is that racist?
00:00:53.000 It's not racist if you're right.
00:01:04.000 Oh wait, we can't show that.
00:01:07.000 Whoops.
00:01:09.000 We'll have to put a black bar over that. 0.84
00:01:11.000 That was a man enjoying a fellatio from a Caucasian lady. 0.99
00:01:15.000 I don't know why he thinks he has talent.
00:01:18.000 He's not good at his job.
00:01:20.000 But I'm amazing at my job.
00:01:22.000 We've got a fun show for you today.
00:01:24.000 I'm hoping to get Ezra Levant on the show.
00:01:30.000 He just got back from London where he was there for Tommy Robinson's appeal.
00:01:35.000 This has been a very, I'm kind of on the inside scoop on this, and it's been a weird, ruckus ride.
00:01:43.000 The beginning of his incarceration was radio silence.
00:01:48.000 We couldn't get word from his lawyer.
00:01:50.000 It was hard to communicate with his family.
00:01:52.000 We're trying to raise money for him.
00:01:53.000 He didn't want us to raise money.
00:01:55.000 That was a message we were getting.
00:01:56.000 What?
00:01:59.000 And then I think his first lawyer was just this lady who mostly did soccer hooligan stuff. 1.00
00:02:05.000 So she's like an expert in head-butting cases and broken bottles. 0.66
00:02:12.000 I shouldn't be disparaging.
00:02:12.000 I don't know her very well.
00:02:13.000 But I thought, no offense, lady, but I want the best lawyers on earth. 0.97
00:02:20.000 This is not a misdemeanor of vandalism.
00:02:23.000 This is, he's going up against the British government.
00:02:25.000 I want three dudes who wear those little stupid wigs. 1.00
00:02:29.000 Can you believe they still wear those?
00:02:33.000 You wear a little white old man wig hat?
00:02:36.000 What are you doing?
00:02:38.000 You judge weight by stone.
00:02:40.000 Someone is 40 stone.
00:02:42.000 And when you go to court, men and women, by the way, wear little old man wigs.
00:02:49.000 Find one of those stupid wigs. 1.00
00:02:51.000 Look at that.
00:02:53.000 I'm almost ready to say my trial.
00:02:55.000 I just have to put on this weird wig where the guy, the original owner of the hair, had short hair on the top, like a crew cut, but then he grew out the sides long and then he curled it back up.
00:03:06.000 What?
00:03:06.000 Like no one has that hairdo.
00:03:08.000 Go back to that.
00:03:09.000 He also has like the bangs.
00:03:11.000 They're sort of, what are those, rolled up or straight up?
00:03:14.000 You don't even look like a person with white hair.
00:03:17.000 You look like someone with the weird albino roadkill on your head.
00:03:21.000 I don't understand what that's saying, too.
00:03:23.000 I'm a wise old man?
00:03:26.000 I'm not talking to her.
00:03:27.000 She's some young broad. 1.00
00:03:29.000 Oh, really?
00:03:30.000 What about now?
00:03:32.000 Oh, now you're like an old white guy. 0.98
00:03:35.000 Now I trust you.
00:03:36.000 You be my lawyer now.
00:03:38.000 Exactly.
00:03:39.000 Wait, don't take it off!
00:03:42.000 All right.
00:03:44.000 They must be late for court and they're running around.
00:03:46.000 Oh, yeah, I forgot my last detail.
00:03:48.000 My stupid old man hat.
00:03:52.000 There we go.
00:03:53.000 Your Honor, I'm wearing a giant dress.
00:03:55.000 Okay, I'm on a giant 40-foot-high podium, like something out of Lord of the Rings.
00:04:00.000 Bonk, bonk. 0.98
00:04:03.000 You look ridiculous.
00:04:05.000 Your whole country is ridiculous.
00:04:09.000 Archie Bunker said it best.
00:04:11.000 England is a fucking country.
00:04:14.000 Remember that episode?
00:04:15.000 Meathead had a friend over who was from England.
00:04:18.000 And Archie Bunker was uncomfortable around him.
00:04:21.000 He said, he seems kind of fruity to me.
00:04:23.000 And Meathead goes, just because a guy wears glasses doesn't mean he's gay, Arch.
00:04:30.000 And Archie goes, I'm not saying he's quick because he's a four-eyes.
00:04:34.000 I'm saying he's quick because he's a f ⁇ . 1.00
00:04:38.000 Norman Mailer created that character so we would all go, you're right, Meathead.
00:04:42.000 And that Arch, pee, I don't like that guy.
00:04:45.000 I don't want to hang around the guy who just said the funniest thing I've ever heard.
00:04:49.000 I want to hang around with the guy on welfare who's living in Archie's house for free and chastises this host constantly.
00:04:59.000 What did he say there?
00:05:01.000 You could probably find that clip.
00:05:02.000 It's very popular.
00:05:04.000 Which guy do you want to hang out with?
00:05:07.000 I can't hear it.
00:05:11.000 Sweetie, pie, Roger.
00:05:13.000 Sweetie, pie, Roger.
00:05:16.000 Listen, Edith, we run a decent home here.
00:05:19.000 And we don't need any strong.
00:05:21.000 Dude, you're a guest in his home.
00:05:23.000 Shut up. 0.95
00:05:24.000 Daddy, stop that. 0.98
00:05:26.000 Roger's not a strange little birdie.
00:05:28.000 His pal, Roger, is as queer as a $4 bill, and he knows it. 1.00
00:05:33.000 That's not only cruel, Daddy, that's an outright lie.
00:05:36.000 You know something, Archie?
00:05:37.000 Just because a guy is sensitive and he's an intellectual and he wears glasses, you make him out a queer. 1.00
00:05:42.000 I never said a guy who wears glasses is a queer.
00:05:45.000 A guy who wears glasses is a four-eyes. 0.96
00:05:47.000 A guy who is a f ⁇ is a queer. 1.00
00:05:51.000 That's way better than I remember it.
00:05:54.000 Can you believe that guy's supposed to be the bad guy?
00:05:58.000 Ew, I like the parasite who chastises his host on a daily basis.
00:06:03.000 Imagine someone's down on their luck and they're crashing at your house and they come downstairs and they go, you know, Gavin, people who like their meat well done are considered lower class.
00:06:13.000 You're supposed to have it rare.
00:06:16.000 Get the f ⁇ out of my house. 1.00
00:06:18.000 Who are you?
00:06:20.000 You're supposed to do the dishes when you stay at someone's house, buy toilet paper, and stay out of their hair if you're there for more than three days.
00:06:26.000 Guests are like fish.
00:06:29.000 Had some guests over at my house the other day, and I. The AC is a bit much, right?
00:06:33.000 Sometimes you just want no AC and a box fan.
00:06:36.000 But they, so they're staying in the guest room.
00:06:38.000 They left the box fan going when they left, like on three.
00:06:44.000 Who does that?
00:06:45.000 So I go up to the guest room, and it's just this box fan all alone circulating air with my electric dollars.
00:06:54.000 That should bother you.
00:06:56.000 All right, this is a fun episode.
00:07:00.000 Talking to Ezra Levant any second now.
00:07:02.000 I also want to look at this video.
00:07:04.000 I spent a long time on it.
00:07:06.000 Where there's this girl who's eating herself to death. 1.00
00:07:09.000 She's a gigantic fat pig, but there's these decrepit perverts on webcams who love watching her eat three pizzas, four cheeseburgers, five milkshakes. 1.00
00:07:19.000 I'm not exaggerating, by the way.
00:07:20.000 I mean like family-sized pizzas.
00:07:22.000 And she just sits there eating herself to death. 0.78
00:07:24.000 So that's infuriating.
00:07:26.000 But the craziest part is her number one fan is her mom.
00:07:30.000 So you have depraved perverts watching someone die, eating themselves to death.
00:07:36.000 I assume pleasuring themselves.
00:07:38.000 They don't sit there at home like the way you would watch Ducker Carlson.
00:07:42.000 I'm going to watch a fat girl eat four pizzas. 1.00
00:07:44.000 Hey, kids, come upstairs.
00:07:46.000 Fat girl's on.
00:07:48.000 So that's disgusting.
00:07:49.000 We know what goes on there.
00:07:50.000 I don't know what happened to you that that turns you on.
00:07:53.000 But then they have the mom going through the photos going, that one looks good.
00:07:57.000 You look like a gigantic fat pig in that one.
00:07:59.000 I believe her goal is to get up to like 700 pounds. 1.00
00:08:03.000 She's a lowly 400 now. 0.99
00:08:05.000 She's not even tall.
00:08:07.000 Okay, you know you're dying, right?
00:08:09.000 That guy, they were shooting my 600-pound life.
00:08:11.000 He croaked as they were shooting it.
00:08:15.000 Because it's not good to be gigantic and fat.
00:08:18.000 Fat people are like bisexuals, okay? 1.00
00:08:21.000 There are no old ones.
00:08:23.000 You don't have a 79-year-old bisexual man tending to his garden. 1.00
00:08:27.000 You have some old gays. 1.00
00:08:29.000 You have some old straits.
00:08:30.000 You have some old lesbians. 1.00
00:08:32.000 Bi is not a thing.
00:08:33.000 And fat, old people are not a thing because they die. 0.93
00:08:37.000 You're not ugly, you're dying.
00:08:38.000 Oh, I got a white tape.
00:08:44.000 Ezra, are you there, sir?
00:08:45.000 I am.
00:08:46.000 Hello.
00:08:47.000 Hello, hello.
00:08:48.000 Now, I used to communicate with Tommy through a various number of ways.
00:08:51.000 I can't find him anymore.
00:08:52.000 Can't use Twitter, can't use this, can't use that.
00:08:55.000 Even his old phone number is gone.
00:08:56.000 I think the police own that now.
00:08:58.000 I thought the most reliable person to talk to these days with Tommy Robinson is his old boss, Ezra Levant.
00:09:05.000 Yeah, it's ironic.
00:09:06.000 I'm actually in closer touch with him now than when he worked with us.
00:09:10.000 And you're right.
00:09:11.000 His Twitter account has been shut down by the company.
00:09:13.000 His old cell phone is still in the possession of the police.
00:09:17.000 Bizarrely, they haven't given it back to him yet.
00:09:20.000 I can tell you that I am in touch with Tommy since he was released in a stunning court of appeal victory, three judges, just absolutely scorching of the lower court and the way they arrested, tried, convicted, sentenced, and imprisoned Tommy Robinson in the space of five hours without proper legal counsel, without properly putting to him what he had allegedly done wrong, improper imprisonment.
00:09:49.000 I have seldom seen such a rebuke.
00:09:51.000 And this was written by no one less than the Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales, the top judge in the UK.
00:09:57.000 Stunning.
00:09:58.000 When he was released from prison on August 1st, I was there.
00:10:01.000 I saw him a couple hours after he got home.
00:10:05.000 Obviously, he visited his wife and kids first.
00:10:07.000 He had lost 40 pounds in prison.
00:10:09.000 He was in prison for about 10 weeks.
00:10:11.000 And he lost 40 pounds, not through a hunger strike or anything, but he was terrified to eat the food there because the Muslim prison gangs were cooking it for him. 1.00
00:10:20.000 And it was delivered to him, especially in his solitary confinement.
00:10:23.000 And they'd say, oi, Tommy, how's the food, eh?
00:10:26.000 As if they had poisoned it or put ground-up glass in it or something.
00:10:30.000 I'm sure they did.
00:10:31.000 Or feces.
00:10:33.000 You know, that's another thing.
00:10:35.000 They would literally come to his solitary confinement, scream violent threats through the flap, literally push their own human excrement into his window if his window was open.
00:10:48.000 He was really tortured physically and psychologically.
00:10:51.000 He begged the prison warden, they called them governors over there, for the right to literally buy his own food.
00:10:58.000 He was turned down that request.
00:11:01.000 He was given no medical care.
00:11:02.000 Imagine losing 40 pounds because he ate one tin of tuna and one piece of fruit a day.
00:11:09.000 No vitamins, no such.
00:11:10.000 When he came out, he clearly had some sort of PTSD.
00:11:13.000 He wasn't even himself.
00:11:14.000 And 40 pounds, he was, I mean, if he were anyone on the left, it would have been called a political prisoner.
00:11:21.000 There would be massive lawsuits.
00:11:23.000 I've read the British press very carefully over the 10 days since his release.
00:11:28.000 Not a word about his torture or mistreatment, just mockery of him.
00:11:32.000 They want him back in prison.
00:11:34.000 This is a story of the failure of the British police prosecution and prison system.
00:11:39.000 It's also a story of the failure of the press.
00:11:42.000 This is the home of Amnesty International and Reporters Without Borders, by the way.
00:11:46.000 Neither of which could give a damn about him.
00:11:48.000 Hope not.
00:11:48.000 Hey.
00:11:49.000 Well, what if I put a dog in a room that was 8 by 10, it had nothing but a blue mat in the room.
00:11:55.000 I would scream at the dog.
00:11:57.000 I'd throw feces through the window.
00:11:58.000 And then for less than half an hour a day, I let the dog into another room that was the same size but a cage, and then put him back.
00:12:05.000 I think you'd be arrested for animal cruelty.
00:12:08.000 That's an excellent point.
00:12:10.000 And if you starved a dog, if someone found that dog and it was emaciated, you'd be arrested.
00:12:15.000 But again, compare Tommy's treatment to the treatment of the Muslim rape gangs. 0.95
00:12:21.000 Remember what Tommy was thrown in jail for?
00:12:23.000 He was standing outside a courthouse in Leeds reporting about a 29-person Muslim rape gang inside.
00:12:29.000 Now, Tommy was not divulging anything from the trial.
00:12:33.000 He was not in the trial.
00:12:34.000 He couldn't do that.
00:12:35.000 The jury was, in fact, done hearing the case.
00:12:37.000 It was verdict day.
00:12:38.000 Tommy did nothing other than refer to the accused or alleged rapists, which is a fact.
00:12:44.000 And the only thing where he read out their names was quoting from the BBC state broadcaster's website that has continuously published the name of the 29 accused.
00:12:54.000 So he literally did nothing wrong.
00:12:56.000 There was one moment where, in fact, you could see him asking a court Policeman, is it okay if I stand here?
00:13:02.000 And he was told yes.
00:13:03.000 This whole thing was what Tommy would call a stitch-up.
00:13:05.000 But the stitch-up wasn't just the police, the prosecutors, and the prison.
00:13:09.000 It was the press and the politicians.
00:13:11.000 Not one single elected British politician other than Gerard Batten, the head of he's a member of the European Parliament for the UKIP party.
00:13:20.000 Not one single politician in the UK has stood up for him.
00:13:23.000 Not one mainstream media legacy media newspaper.
00:13:27.000 Not one human rights group.
00:13:29.000 Amnesty International, Reforters Without Borders.
00:13:31.000 No one gives a damn.
00:13:33.000 And Gavin, I don't think I mentioned this.
00:13:36.000 We've been talking for five, ten minutes.
00:13:37.000 He has to go back to court on September 4th.
00:13:39.000 He's going back to the old Bailey.
00:13:41.000 That's the Central Criminal Courts.
00:13:42.000 They're going to rehear the case.
00:13:44.000 And if he's committed for contempt again, he may well go back to prison again.
00:13:49.000 So it's not bad enough.
00:13:50.000 By the way, he's the first British journalist to spend any time in prison at all for contempt of court since the 1940s.
00:13:58.000 If a journalist makes a mistake and they publish something they're not supposed to, for the last 70 years, the remedy was to wrap their knuckles and maybe fine their company.
00:14:09.000 No journalist in 70 years has been sent to prison for contempt, but he's Tommy Robinson, so the law, he's beneath the law.
00:14:17.000 There's two ways to go here.
00:14:18.000 First of all, way one, I want pedophiles to be screamed at when they're going in for their sentencing.
00:14:25.000 I want a mob out there.
00:14:26.000 We just had it here with a corrupt politician, Sheldon Silver, I think his name was.
00:14:30.000 Everyone's throwing stuff at him, not throwing stuff.
00:14:32.000 But it used to be when you had Gary Gilmore or the Cray brothers or some criminal being sentenced to prison that the community was there.
00:14:40.000 Now these are pedophiles and we're worried about them being embarrassed.
00:14:44.000 But okay, let's put that aside.
00:14:45.000 That's my own personal belief.
00:14:47.000 Let's just go by the law.
00:14:49.000 And you were saying the other day we were talking about contempt of court and you said the only other time you can see a case get this far, it was way, way worse and the punishment was almost nothing.
00:15:02.000 Yeah.
00:15:03.000 What was that case again?
00:15:03.000 Let me address your first question.
00:15:07.000 Well, yeah, two points.
00:15:08.000 Your first point about people screaming at rape.
00:15:11.000 Because remember, these aren't just regular rapists.
00:15:13.000 These are people who systematically trap, extort, and drug children as young as 11.
00:15:19.000 This rape gang that Tommy was reporting about, they went after girls as young as 11.
00:15:24.000 11.
00:15:25.000 And I should tell you, Gavin, that outside the courthouse in Leeds, not on that day, but on previous days, there were at least a dozen people screaming at these rapists, family members of the girls.
00:15:37.000 There was actually another journalist, his name is Mohan Singh, great guy, I've met him, but only Tommy was charged.
00:15:43.000 Isn't that interesting?
00:15:44.000 So people have screamed at the rapist.
00:15:46.000 Another journalist, Mohan Singh, did a news report just like Tommy, but only Tommy was charged at all, let alone imprisoned.
00:15:53.000 Isn't that interesting?
00:15:54.000 It certainly is.
00:15:55.000 Well, what was that?
00:15:56.000 And you mentioned that other case.
00:15:57.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:15:58.000 Can you go ahead?
00:15:58.000 Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you.
00:15:59.000 The case that you found, because you went and researched all the contempt of courts in the past hundred years, trying to find something remotely similar.
00:16:07.000 And what was the one case you found?
00:16:09.000 Well, I mean, I don't take credit for this.
00:16:11.000 Tommy's lawyers do, but this was the case they relied on at the Court of Appeal.
00:16:15.000 It's the leading case for contempt of court in the UK.
00:16:19.000 It's a recent case, 2014.
00:16:21.000 It's also by the Court of Appeal, three-judge panel.
00:16:24.000 So very, very senior, serious precedent.
00:16:27.000 It was about a lawyer named Eden Stewart West, who just had a bad day.
00:16:32.000 Holy cow. 0.89
00:16:32.000 He went to court. 0.89
00:16:34.000 He started arguing with the judge, like really bad, in open court.
00:16:38.000 And the judge ordered him to come back and he refused to.
00:16:40.000 And he came back and he demanded the judge apologize to him.
00:16:44.000 He was abusive to the judge, fighting with the judge.
00:16:46.000 He deliberately disobeyed a court order.
00:16:50.000 And when the judge got mad at him, he demanded the judge apologize to him.
00:16:54.000 It was, I've never been a fucking kid.
00:16:56.000 He sounds like a funny guy.
00:16:57.000 It was like Al Pacino saying, I'm out of order.
00:17:00.000 You're out of order.
00:17:01.000 This whole damn court's out of order.
00:17:03.000 That's not a Pacino accent, but you know, that movie, And Justice for All, that ultimate scene where Al Pacino just goes crazy.
00:17:10.000 That's what this was like.
00:17:11.000 And this lawyer, and I didn't imagine demanding the judge apologize to you.
00:17:16.000 This lawyer was fined a few hundred pounds.
00:17:19.000 He appealed.
00:17:22.000 He won the appeal on technical grounds, the same technical grounds Tommy has.
00:17:27.000 And then the court said, all right, well, you don't have to do it again.
00:17:30.000 So a guy who literally fights with a judge like Injustice for All, Al Pacino, just nothing.
00:17:39.000 No rehearing.
00:17:41.000 At the first instance, just a few hundred dollars, a few hundred pounds in fines.
00:17:44.000 Tommy, 10 weeks in prison like a caged animal.
00:17:48.000 So yeah, you know what?
00:17:50.000 I don't want to sound a little too crazy, but I think that if you measure it by any objective standard, Tommy Robinson is being treated as a political prisoner.
00:18:01.000 And Gavin, I know your viewers care.
00:18:04.000 We need help.
00:18:04.000 Tommy's not well yet.
00:18:06.000 He's been to the hospital twice in the last 10 days.
00:18:09.000 He's asked me to help him.
00:18:10.000 Even though I helped him when he was in prison, he's asked me to help him.
00:18:12.000 So we've got to hire these lawyers again.
00:18:14.000 Because we've got to go back to the old Bailey.
00:18:16.000 That's the name of the court on September 4th.
00:18:18.000 We've got to prepare for this whole thing over again.
00:18:20.000 They're doing a total do-over.
00:18:22.000 Do you know how much money it costs to send a barrister and a solicitor, and each of them has a jewel?
00:18:27.000 Do you know how much money that costs?
00:18:28.000 So we've got to scrape up the dough.
00:18:31.000 The government has unlimited funds.
00:18:32.000 They're trying to break Tommy physically, psychologically, and financially.
00:18:37.000 And I can't help with the physical or the psychological.
00:18:40.000 But we've set up a crowdfunding page at savetommy.com.
00:18:44.000 And if there's anyone who's watching your show right now who is upset at all by this and is wondering what they can do, the only practical thing I can think of is to go to savetommy.com and chip in a dollar or a pound because literally everything is being done over again.
00:19:03.000 Unlike that crazy lawyer screaming at the judges who was set free, Tommy's got to go back to court on September 4th.
00:19:10.000 That's going to be tens of thousands of pounds.
00:19:12.000 Unprecedented injustice.
00:19:14.000 And what's the name of the website?
00:19:17.000 Save Tommy.com.
00:19:21.000 Why did you say it like I have a learning disability?
00:19:24.000 You know what?
00:19:25.000 I don't want to be mean to you, my friend.
00:19:27.000 So I'm just making it, I will not take the bait There.
00:19:30.000 SaveTommy.com.
00:19:31.000 I guess what I'm saying is, I mean, if you're a British citizen, this is the last lion. 0.93
00:19:38.000 And obviously, they put the lion in the cage.
00:19:41.000 He's the last guy speaking out.
00:19:43.000 And, you know, if Tommy Robinson's caged, and if he dies in prison, which will probably happen if he goes back, who's there left?
00:19:50.000 I like that Nigel Farage, but he doesn't talk about Islam whatsoever.
00:19:53.000 He stays away from it like it's poison gas or something.
00:19:57.000 Other than Gerrard Batten, I haven't seen any politicians speak out for him.
00:20:01.000 Look at Boris Johnson.
00:20:02.000 He makes a joke about him in the cab, and he's hounded for a week.
00:20:05.000 If Tommy Robinson is sent to jail, he'll die.
00:20:08.000 I think you're right.
00:20:09.000 Ezra out of time, thank you so much for coming on the show.
00:20:11.000 Let's have you back again soon.
00:20:13.000 Thanks, Gavin.
00:20:14.000 And sisters, don't get mad, because I'm out banging white shits, because we all look the same when we turn off the light switch. 1.00
00:20:20.000 Amy Schumer has a movie out.
00:20:22.000 I think it's on demand now, and it's called I Feel Pretty.
00:20:25.000 And Amy Schumer is not an obese woman.
00:20:28.000 She's about a six.
00:20:29.000 And the point of the movie is if you're confident, your life can be a lot better.
00:20:34.000 She has a head injury in it where she thinks she's a supermodel. 1.00
00:20:37.000 And I think it's a great message.
00:20:39.000 Amy Schumer, I have a bad history with her. 0.88
00:20:42.000 I caught her stealing a bunch of jokes, and I think she stabbed the right in the back after being on Fox News a few times and Anthony Cumi and the whole shock jock thing.
00:20:50.000 She stabbed them in the back and said, oh, I was just playing a character.
00:20:52.000 So I don't like Amy as a person.
00:20:55.000 But I think this movie has a great message.
00:20:57.000 And it is, hey, sixes, if you act like an eight, you can be a seven.
00:21:02.000 That's cool.
00:21:02.000 And she had a lot of backlash for it too.
00:21:04.000 They said, well, it's easy for you to say you feel pretty.
00:21:07.000 You're basically pretty.
00:21:09.000 What about me?
00:21:10.000 I weigh 400 pounds.
00:21:12.000 No one thinks I'm pretty.
00:21:13.000 Yeah, because you're dying.
00:21:15.000 So Amy was the perfect person to play that role because she's a mid-six, 6.5. 0.99
00:21:22.000 And that's easy to play with, especially if you're a lady and you take care of yourself and you put on makeup and just sort of try. 0.87
00:21:28.000 You have a lot of play there.
00:21:29.000 And guys like that.
00:21:29.000 God, I look ridiculous.
00:21:34.000 I got her married.
00:21:35.000 Guys, you got to get married in your early 30s.
00:21:37.000 Get a ring on it, and then you can do all the balding and fatting you want because she's legally bound to find you attractive. 1.00
00:21:46.000 But anyway, and I hate these pants.
00:21:50.000 So that was a good message.
00:21:52.000 And the reason a 400-pound girl is not attractive is because that's not healthy. 1.00
00:21:56.000 It's not like we have weird instincts.
00:21:59.000 We have good instincts.
00:22:00.000 Men are very cool when it comes to beauty.
00:22:03.000 We talk about these unattainable body standards that men have. 0.52
00:22:08.000 Yeah, gay men have them when they work in fashion.
00:22:12.000 Women have them for other women. 1.00
00:22:13.000 Us guys, as long as you're not unhealthy, we're cool.
00:22:18.000 So this Amy Schumer concept of slightly chubby, like this, can be workable, has been bastardized into women who are dying are sexy. 1.00
00:22:30.000 And these weirdo perverts who like it are killing women. 1.00
00:22:35.000 Here's a webcam girl who is dying and men masturbate to this dying young girl. 0.82
00:22:44.000 There she is, dying.
00:22:46.000 This snack is watching what she eats. 1.00
00:22:49.000 Dip those fries in a chocolate boxet.
00:22:53.000 And so are her fans.
00:22:55.000 Snack is for you.
00:22:58.000 22-year-old Caitlin Finley is an online supersized sensation who specializes in a fetish known as feeding. 1.00
00:23:07.000 What a sickle.
00:23:08.000 I can eat three meat lover pizzas, four double cheeseburgers, order or two of fries, a liter or two of soda.
00:23:16.000 Can you just pause it here for a second?
00:23:18.000 Whenever you see someone that's a gigantic fat pig, I want you to know that you couldn't eat as much as them.
00:23:23.000 You know, a lot of these women will say, you can't judge how healthy I am just by looking at me. 1.00
00:23:28.000 Yeah, I can.
00:23:29.000 So can doctors.
00:23:31.000 And if you had to sit next to them and eat what they eat or even achieve that level of leisure, I believe that level of leisure is about four movies a day.
00:23:39.000 If you watched four movies a day, you would lose your mind.
00:23:43.000 Imagine how frustrated you'd be.
00:23:44.000 Even if you're sick and you're in bed all day, the next day you're like, get me out of this bed.
00:23:49.000 I never want to see a TV or my phone ever again.
00:23:52.000 You're so happy to be out of that.
00:23:54.000 But it is a real accomplishment to be this fat.
00:23:58.000 And it's an accomplishment in self-indulgence.
00:24:01.000 Two to three milkshakes normally.
00:24:03.000 Two to three milkshakes normally.
00:24:05.000 And she's got an unlikely ally when it comes to milkshakes.
00:24:09.000 Her mom.
00:24:10.000 My favorite one's this one.
00:24:12.000 Her stance.
00:24:13.000 Just pause.
00:24:16.000 Like I keep going back to this.
00:24:18.000 Can we show this to a doctor, please?
00:24:20.000 Hey, Doc, how's this?
00:24:22.000 What do you think of this?
00:24:23.000 Is this beautiful?
00:24:24.000 And he'll say, well, I don't, I'm not one to judge beauty.
00:24:27.000 That's a subjective term.
00:24:29.000 But as far as my profession goes, this is dying.
00:24:33.000 This is dying because of this.
00:24:36.000 500,000 people die a year from obesity-related causes.
00:24:40.000 You're not different.
00:24:41.000 If this was a woman with stubs and she had a site where people who like girls with stubs were into it, and her mom said, she's got stubs. 1.00
00:24:49.000 She had a rough childhood with her little stubs and now she's popular. 0.99
00:24:53.000 I'm all for it.
00:24:54.000 Everyone's all for that.
00:24:55.000 You're not dying.
00:24:56.000 You got stubs and you found a stub audience.
00:24:58.000 Awesome.
00:24:59.000 This is not that.
00:25:00.000 This is self-induced paraplegica.
00:25:05.000 That was a terrible thing to say.
00:25:06.000 This is a self-induced handicap is what it is.
00:25:09.000 Paraplegica.
00:25:10.000 Look at me.
00:25:11.000 I'm big.
00:25:11.000 I'm beautiful.
00:25:13.000 I got the boob. 1.00
00:25:14.000 I got the butt and the belly. 0.99
00:25:16.000 It makes me smile when I see the photographs.
00:25:19.000 I think she's beautiful and I love it.
00:25:22.000 She does a great job.
00:25:24.000 She does do a good job of being a fat pig with fetishists. 1.00
00:25:28.000 Does you think it's over now, right?
00:25:31.000 Is it?
00:25:32.000 Nope.
00:25:32.000 Caitlin wasn't always so comfortable with her own skin.
00:25:35.000 She was bragging about her boobs and her butt. 1.00
00:25:37.000 She does have nice big boobs. 1.00
00:25:39.000 I'll give you that.
00:25:39.000 That's kind of inevitable when you're a fat pig.
00:25:42.000 That butt was one of the worst butts I've ever seen in my life. 1.00
00:25:45.000 Can we go back to that butt? 0.97
00:25:46.000 Look at that thing. 0.92
00:25:48.000 You know what it is?
00:25:49.000 The weight of her body and the excessive amount of sitting has made it into like a chair. 0.99
00:25:55.000 It looks like a seating pad that's riding up her lower back. 1.00
00:26:00.000 Sorry, lady, your butt sucks. 1.00
00:26:01.000 Boy, in her own skin.
00:26:03.000 As a child, she was bullied for being big.
00:26:06.000 I would be pushed down the stairs.
00:26:07.000 I had food thrown at me.
00:26:09.000 They would go out of their way to write like fat pig my desk before I came in. 1.00
00:26:15.000 Sorry about that.
00:26:16.000 Desperate to fit in, Caitlin went on a crash diet and kept the bulge at bay for more than a year.
00:26:22.000 But she still wasn't happy.
00:26:24.000 Yeah, so.
00:26:25.000 I actually felt worse when I was thinner because I felt like I had betrayed myself.
00:26:30.000 In myself, I am a big person.
00:26:31.000 Can you just cause it?
00:26:33.000 I actually felt worse when I was thinner because I felt like I betrayed myself.
00:26:36.000 We used to have this friend called Fat Peter when I was a kid and he weighed something like 350, 400 pounds.
00:26:40.000 And I said to him, why don't you lose weight?
00:26:42.000 And he goes, I wouldn't be me anymore.
00:26:43.000 I wouldn't be Fat Peter.
00:26:45.000 So?
00:26:45.000 Don't be Fat Peter.
00:26:46.000 Don't be sick Peter anymore.
00:26:48.000 He's since lost the weight, by the way.
00:26:49.000 I think he was just telling himself that.
00:26:51.000 But to say, I was less happy than when I was overindulging myself to the point of death.
00:26:56.000 Yeah.
00:26:57.000 I'm sure a lot of heroin addicts will tell you that though I am clean now, it felt a lot better being a heroin addict.
00:27:05.000 Yeah, it does.
00:27:06.000 Heroin feels really, really good.
00:27:09.000 It also kills you.
00:27:11.000 I'm sure watching porn 20 hours a day feels pretty good.
00:27:16.000 It's also a horrible way to live.
00:27:18.000 Just because something feels good doesn't mean you should do it all day till you die.
00:27:23.000 I thought that was a given.
00:27:25.000 Go ahead.
00:27:26.000 Being thin, I felt like I was faking who I am to fit in, and it didn't feel right.
00:27:33.000 Can I just say one more thing, too?
00:27:35.000 Why don't men like fat women? 1.00
00:27:38.000 Enormous.
00:27:38.000 Actually, too many men do, apparently.
00:27:40.000 She has a whole business with this.
00:27:41.000 But the whole idea of like ugliness is subjective and other traits.
00:27:47.000 Do you like big ears?
00:27:48.000 Do you like long hair?
00:27:49.000 Do you like short hair?
00:27:50.000 Whatever?
00:27:50.000 That's all subjective crap.
00:27:51.000 It's irrelevant, right?
00:27:52.000 But there are certain traits that are natural to dislike.
00:27:56.000 And one of them is, are you super old?
00:27:59.000 Young men are not attracted to 75-year-old women.
00:28:02.000 That's natural.
00:28:03.000 That's genetic.
00:28:03.000 That's part of evolution.
00:28:05.000 They look at the 75-year-old woman and they go, I can't have babies with you. 0.67
00:28:09.000 We have no future together.
00:28:10.000 You're going to die, et cetera, et cetera.
00:28:12.000 We have nothing in common.
00:28:14.000 So naturally, out of his hands, he's not attracted to a 75-year-old.
00:28:19.000 When you see a woman like this who's dying, you go, we'll have a baby together. 1.00
00:28:23.000 There'll be complications with that.
00:28:25.000 And then the odds are pretty darn high.
00:28:27.000 You're not going to be around when the girl's eight or nine.
00:28:30.000 Now my child doesn't have a mom.
00:28:33.000 Now that's bad for my child.
00:28:35.000 Now I'm not attracted to you because there's no hope of ever breeding.
00:28:39.000 That's just normal.
00:28:41.000 It's not prejudice.
00:28:42.000 It's not like you don't like a black person.
00:28:45.000 You don't like a dying person and you don't want to have a future with someone with no future.
00:28:49.000 That's perfectly reasonable.
00:28:53.000 Then she stumbled on a group of morbidly obese women who called themselves supersized big beautiful women or SSBBWs for short. 1.00
00:29:02.000 I forget who it was, but it was a big, beautiful woman. 0.94
00:29:04.000 She was like 600 pounds and she just looked like a goddess. 1.00
00:29:07.000 I came out of high school and immediately started doing webcam work.
00:29:12.000 She looked like a goddess. 1.00
00:29:13.000 The goddess?
00:29:14.000 What?
00:29:14.000 Nell Caitlin.
00:29:15.000 Or Calico Bomb Shower.
00:29:17.000 She's known to her legion of fans. 0.88
00:29:19.000 Will gorge on up to 10,000 calories in one sitting.
00:29:22.000 She looked like a god.
00:29:23.000 The most unusual food requests I get are things like vanilla pudding and mayonnaise mixed together, eat with a spoon.
00:29:29.000 I've been asked to drink bacon grease or eat just bacon fat.
00:29:35.000 Yeah, for me, if something's greasy, it's more erotic than anything.
00:29:41.000 Being able to bite into something, like just drinking a milkshake or something, isn't erotic form, but biting into a burger or pizza.
00:29:48.000 That's erotic.
00:29:48.000 Did she recognize it?
00:29:51.000 You can't tell what age these people are either.
00:29:53.000 Caitlin was worried about what her conservative parents would think of her career choice.
00:29:58.000 But her mum has become her biggest fan and even acts as her photographer.
00:30:02.000 You are enabling someone who's committing suicide.
00:30:05.000 I do like that one.
00:30:06.000 I like this one.
00:30:07.000 I'm her mother and Can we meet these people who subscribe to these websites?
00:30:14.000 How much is a cam?
00:30:16.000 How much does a cam girl cost? 1.00
00:30:17.000 You better not know that, by the way, or I'm going to be very disappointed in you.
00:30:21.000 I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the people who subscribe to this are not, it's not sexual for them.
00:30:26.000 It's women who are trying to lose weight and are almost bulimic. 1.00
00:30:30.000 They go on these sites to watch a woman drink bacon grease because they would love to drink bacon grease because they've had nothing but rice cakes and ice for three days. 0.53
00:30:40.000 Her folder says work.
00:30:42.000 Her folder says work.
00:30:44.000 Nice job.
00:30:45.000 I feel that's what I should do.
00:30:46.000 It's not work.
00:30:48.000 She loves it, and I love her.
00:30:50.000 So that makes it all worth it.
00:30:54.000 When my mom says she's proud of me, it makes me emotional because I feel like I've accomplished more than making money.
00:31:05.000 Yeah, you've accomplished more than making money.
00:31:07.000 You've killed yourself.
00:31:09.000 And your mother's enabling your inevitable death.
00:31:11.000 This just happened, by the way, on my 600-pound life.
00:31:14.000 The guy they were doing a feature on died as they were doing the feature.
00:31:19.000 Every time you see these huge, obese people, you ever notice they're never 70 years old?
00:31:24.000 These people don't last.
00:31:25.000 These guys who do the funny walk, they always go, you know, when you criticize me, it makes me eat more.
00:31:32.000 I don't care about you.
00:31:33.000 I'm not trying to help you lose weight.
00:31:35.000 When I see someone who's a fat pig, it's like when I see someone who's a junkie.
00:31:39.000 I just go, oh, that person's ruining their lives.
00:31:41.000 Some of them are my best friends.
00:31:42.000 A lot of my friends are huge fat pigs.
00:31:45.000 And I'm just like looking at it going, well, you're dying.
00:31:47.000 It's none of my beeswax.
00:31:48.000 It's like seeing someone who drinks too much.
00:31:50.000 Well, you're going to get cirrhosis, but what am I going to do about it?
00:31:54.000 Tackle you every time you have a drink?
00:31:56.000 So it's not like I have a vested interest in this.
00:31:59.000 I just have a vested interest in telling the truth and not enabling people.
00:32:03.000 This could just, it might as well be an alcoholic with a bottle of whiskey going on a whiskey cam where he goes, sometimes they want me to drink vodka, sometimes they want me to drink whiskey, and they love it when I puke.
00:32:14.000 And then usually I pass out and then people will pay to watch me sleep it off.
00:32:19.000 That's sad.
00:32:20.000 I don't care, but it's sad.
00:32:22.000 It's not cool.
00:32:23.000 It's not empowering.
00:32:24.000 Mom, my friends wanted you to go on a vodka cam.
00:32:27.000 I think it's wonderful.
00:32:29.000 Look at her.
00:32:29.000 Jesus.
00:32:31.000 Car is under duress.
00:32:33.000 Showing everybody that you don't have to fit in a size zero just to be awesome.
00:32:40.000 Caitlin, who's a dress size 24 and has a whopping BMI of 80, has a message to people who think she's killing herself.
00:32:48.000 Oh, good.
00:32:49.000 I say, you haven't seen my doctor.
00:32:51.000 I have perfect health.
00:32:53.000 I just pause.
00:32:56.000 You haven't seen my doctor.
00:32:58.000 I have perfect health.
00:33:00.000 This is a really dangerous mentality.
00:33:03.000 You might as well have a heroin addict say that.
00:33:06.000 You might as well have a brutal alcoholic say that.
00:33:08.000 By the way, for the record, doctors say you need, guys, minds, they say if you can get under 200 pounds, keep it down 180, 190.
00:33:17.000 I think I'm 180.
00:33:18.000 Then you're buying another 15 years on the end of your life.
00:33:22.000 She is clearly way shorter than me and way over 200.
00:33:28.000 There's no doubt.
00:33:29.000 This is not subjective.
00:33:31.000 There's no doubt this woman is killing herself. 1.00
00:33:33.000 And to sit there and say, you haven't seen my doctor, I'm in perfect health.
00:33:38.000 It's just false.
00:33:40.000 That's not subjective.
00:33:41.000 It's objectively false.
00:33:43.000 You're dying.
00:33:46.000 Went yesterday.
00:33:47.000 My blood pressure is actually athletic perfection.
00:33:50.000 So I'm not going to say that eating three pizzas, four burgers, fries, and a frosty is going to, you know, make you live to be 100.
00:33:59.000 But if that's what makes you happy, whatever, you know?
00:34:03.000 Okay, pause.
00:34:04.000 She's changed it.
00:34:05.000 She said, I'm not healthy.
00:34:06.000 I'm healthy.
00:34:07.000 You haven't seen my doctor.
00:34:08.000 And then she said, look, I know it's not healthy, but I like it.
00:34:13.000 All right.
00:34:14.000 Well, by the way, we live in America.
00:34:15.000 So it's perfectly legal for you.
00:34:17.000 You're paying for that food.
00:34:18.000 So there's no laws against it.
00:34:20.000 But we're sitting here as a society saying, hey, lady, please stop deluding yourself and please stop encouraging others.
00:34:26.000 And hey, mom, you're facilitating your daughter's death. 0.57
00:34:30.000 Objectively, I can say that's not cool.
00:34:37.000 Great.
00:34:42.000 For now, Caitlin has set herself a target of hitting 500 pounds by the time she's 30, when she'll have a BMI of over 100. 0.89
00:34:51.000 My long-term goal is to be as big as physically possible without being bedbound.
00:34:59.000 And with mum's help, she hopes to become one of the most successful SSBBWs in history. 0.99
00:35:05.000 Having my mom support me means everything to me.
00:35:08.000 It makes me feel like I've succeeded more than if I would have made more money or if I would have gotten famous right off the bat.
00:35:18.000 American Systems.
00:35:19.000 I'm proud of her for following her goals, for doing what she wants to do, not what other people think she should do.
00:35:27.000 Her goals?
00:35:31.000 That's enough.
00:35:32.000 That's enough.
00:35:34.000 How did we get here?
00:35:36.000 How did we get to the point where overindulging yourself to the point of death is considered success?
00:35:42.000 It's considered an accomplishment.
00:35:44.000 If I want to cut myself with a razor blade 5 million times before the end of 2018, that's not work.
00:35:51.000 That's not success.
00:35:52.000 And that's a stupid, crazy goal that will likely kill me.
00:35:57.000 Please stop advocating death in the name of making everyone feel better about themselves.
00:36:04.000 You look ridiculous.
00:36:06.000 You look ridiculous.
00:36:08.000 I was trying to take me home, calling me on the phone saying Casey make me move Drake is a very popular Canadian gentleman who grew up in Ontario with his white mom.
00:36:17.000 I think he spent the summers with his black dad.
00:36:19.000 That's how he got his street cred.
00:36:21.000 But as far as I'm concerned, he's a white Jewish Torontonian.
00:36:25.000 And he did a top hit called In My Feelings.
00:36:29.000 And the challenge that is very popular with the kids today is to get out of the car and do the dance that goes along with the lyrics to the song while your car is coasting at normal speeds.
00:36:40.000 And I've seen a lot of them.
00:36:42.000 People try to fall and they do fake falls that are so obvious.
00:36:47.000 But this one was one of the more efficient and effective In My Feelings challenges I've ever seen.
00:36:53.000 Take it away, black guy. 1.00
00:36:57.000 So you get out of your car.
00:36:59.000 Wait a minute.
00:37:00.000 Isn't the driver filming?
00:37:03.000 How is this hard?
00:37:06.000 The driver can just put on the brakes whenever he wants.
00:37:13.000 What a stupid challenge.
00:37:14.000 It's less challenging than the ice bucket challenge.
00:37:20.000 That would be funny if he went over to that guy right now who was watering his lawn and he said, hey man, I'm doing an In My Feelings challenge.