Sarah Al-Iraqia is an outspoken ex-Muslim from Iraq who now lives in the United States and speaks out against Islamic extremism. In this episode, Sarah talks about her experience growing up in a conservative Muslim household and how she was able to speak out against it.
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00:00:50.000No, I wish someone would try something.
00:00:54.000I found myself actually in the most auspicious, lucky of situations where I am able to use my voice and use my platform and live in a time where I can warn others that this is not something that we have just imported by people.
00:01:16.000So most of our local mosques, if they are Sunni, which is the sect of Islam that I grew up with, I received a five-star Wahhabi education right here in the United States.
00:02:07.000Well, the way that Islam is taught is puts it in a position as an ideology to be very easy to manipulate and very easy to manipulate masses.
00:02:20.000Because one part of Islamic doctrine and education, one key part is that our book, the Quran, which is the third book revealed by the Abrahamic one God, this book is actually perfect.
00:02:38.000The Jews had their books tampered with by man.
00:02:42.000The Christians had their books tampered with by man.
00:02:45.000But the Quran is a perfect word directly from God.
00:02:48.000And to deny any verse within that book is an affront to Islam, is apostasy in itself.
00:02:55.000And you will be met with, I don't know, I don't even want to think what you will be met with.
00:05:27.000You know, even if it doesn't have bacon in it or something good, you know, it's still going to be better than the rest of the prison slop that people are eating.
00:05:34.000They get to have their prayer times five times a day.
00:05:37.000Really, it is a way to make a legal gang inside of U.S. prisons with our tax dollars.
00:05:47.000It was actually in this very room where we talked about Islamberg and how African American Muslims leave the prison and they start at Islamberg.
00:05:57.000And then there's now a cabal, a network of about 20 different camps that are portrayed as peaceful Muslim little villages, but they're really jihadi training camps.
00:06:08.000And when we checked it out in Islamberg, everyone made fun of us and said, oh, you're just trying to intimidate people.
00:06:15.000But then we see down in, what was it, Orlando with the guy who's starving his children in that jihadi training camp and they were planning to shoot up schools.
00:06:27.000And now the people who say, oh, you shouldn't have been checking out Islamberg, we go, well, is the fact that we caught this other guy, does that justify our trip down there?
00:06:36.000And they go, no, no, that's different.
00:06:49.000That's the skipping broken record you hear over and over.
00:06:52.000Now, my father, not being a religious man, is quite interesting because he actually memorized the entire Quran.
00:07:00.000He went to a private Islamic school where he memorized the entire Quran.
00:07:04.000And then when he was done memorizing it, he went to his parents and he said, "I want to go to school with all the other kids, "with the Christian kids as well, "because I feel like an outsider, "and I feel like I don't agree with what I just read." And this is when he's in Iraq or when he's in Iraq?
00:07:20.000And he can quote scriptures from the Quran better than some of these Wahhabi clerics.
00:07:27.000And he's what is called a hafiz, which means he's memorized the entire book.
00:07:34.000And for someone who has memorized the entire book and has chosen to remove themselves from that religion immediately upon memorizing that entire book, it's very telling.
00:07:44.000And during his time, we were talking earlier, during his time studying in England, he saw one Islamic preacher in the street and asked his buddy, who was a local to the area, does this happen often?
00:08:00.000He said, oh, once or twice, sometimes.
00:08:26.000Well, you're called racist if you're dubious of Islam, but there's plenty of white Muslims.
00:08:30.000And we saw what they can get up to in the Boston bombing.
00:08:33.000And we saw the kidnapping in Chechnya and Georgia where they would hold schools hostage.
00:08:39.000It just seems to me, irregardless of race, regardless of race I should say, that the more prevalent Islam becomes, the more backwards the culture gets.
00:08:48.000We were talking earlier about Lebanon, which used to be a Christian country.
00:09:14.000That's actually another thing that my father would say a lot, that it just, it's bringing us back in time.
00:09:20.000And my mother, you know, when they first came to America, she kind of, when you come from any kind of conservative sort of culture, let's say you come here from Poland, which is quite, you know, they're quite conservative in some ways.
00:09:32.000And you start seeing all these things on television that you're not used to seeing.
00:09:37.000So you think, okay, I want my child to grow up right with some morality, so I'm going to send them to this Sunday school.
00:09:44.000And so this was basically the intent of my mother.
00:09:49.000And I stormed out of the mosque because of what was being taught there.
00:09:53.000At the age of 14, I was taught that if I don't have sex with my husband whenever he calls for me, I will be cursed by the angels until the morning.
00:10:03.000And then they told us what hell looks like.
00:10:05.000Your skin burns off, it grows back, and it burns off again.
00:10:59.000And the joke is on him because when I told my parents what happened, they said, oh my goodness, we came all the way here to get away from these guys and these guys are here.
00:11:18.000It seems to me, and it's hard to gauge because we're talking about a billion people, but it seems to me there's a real ex-Muslim movement going on.
00:12:43.000The reason she's not allowed into England ever again is for blasphemy.
00:12:46.000I want to hug people like Lauren Southern, women like Lauren Southern, because she is a white woman without fear.
00:12:54.000She knows what backlash that she will get as being a white woman and saying this, speaking up on behalf of The dead Muslim girls, young girls, and ex-Muslim women.
00:13:04.000And meanwhile, we have feminists here who are fighting for very strange rights and wearing very strange hats.
00:13:13.000Well, that's another time when the liberals end up contradicting themselves because they, did you see at the Women's March, they were putting on hijabs, which my understanding of that's that's blasphemy too, because that's not a Muslim.
00:13:26.000So when you start wearing Muslim garb, especially to have a man doing it, a man putting on an American flag hijab.
00:15:48.000And I think that this movement is excellent on behalf of the people who are just so altruistic and passionately in love with Western lifestyle.
00:16:00.000You and I are sitting here, I'm dressed haram, and you have Osama bin Laden t-shirt on, and we can do this, and we can joke and laugh about it, and no one is going to come hurt us or throw us in prison or anything like that.
00:16:33.000The way we're going, man, on our lost day, we'll see.
00:16:39.000George Neumeier, you are the author of a wonderful book called The Political Pope, and you're also contributing editor to the American Spectator.
00:16:47.000And I wanted to get you on the show here because I see you as one of the reigning experts on this pedophile problem we have as Catholics in the Catholic Church.
00:17:03.000What was your impetus to start hunting these guys down?
00:17:07.000Well, I noticed that the gay mafia in the Catholic Church is enormously influential and widespread, and nobody was talking about that problem.
00:17:17.000Can you expand on that term gay mafia?
00:17:19.000Because it's used in Hollywood a lot, too.
00:17:20.000Yeah, well, there's basically a network of priests and bishops and cardinals even who are gay and who use their position within the church to protect each other and to promote each other.
00:17:33.000And these guys have been ordaining each other for decades and consecrating each other for decades.
00:17:38.000And it goes all the way back here in New York City to Cardinal Spellman.
00:17:42.000Cardinal Spellman, everybody now, most historians regard Cardinal Spellman as a closeted homosexual.
00:17:50.000I thought I read recently that they were even coming up with ways to denote who a good victim would be, like he wears a bigger cross than the other boys.
00:17:58.000Well, that came out in Pittsburgh, the grand jury report.
00:18:01.000One of the horrifying details was that this pedophile ring in Pittsburgh, that Cardinal Worrell, who's now the Cardinal of Washington, D.C., he was the bishop of Pittsburgh for about 18 years.
00:18:12.000There was this pedophile ring in his diocese that he didn't really do very much about.
00:18:17.000I mean, he kind of cast a blind eye towards.
00:18:20.000And one of the awful things that that pedophile ring did was they would identify kids that, you know, that the members could have sex with.
00:18:27.000And the way they would mark them off as having been groomed would be by giving them crosses.
00:18:32.000And so if the other pedophiles saw them wearing a cross, they'd know that they could have sex with that child.
00:18:39.000You know, if you had asked me about, and I'm new to Catholicism, so I'm no expert, but if you'd asked me about pedophile priests six months ago, I'd say, all right, yes, you're right, it's horrible.
00:18:52.000The problem's been fixed since then, and it's usually gays preying on pubescent boys.
00:18:58.000It's not like they're going for toddlers or anything.
00:19:00.000So it's actually a problem with gays in the church.
00:19:03.000But in the past six months, now I'm saying, I'm realizing, no, no, no, the problem didn't go away.
00:19:08.000In fact, it almost seems like it's bigger than ever.
00:19:11.000Well, the media wants everybody to think that there's been a rash of six-year-olds and seven-year-olds who've been raped by priests, when the reality is that almost all of the cases involve male teens from the ages of 15 to 17.
00:19:26.00070% of the cases in Pennsylvania that the grand jury looked at fell into that category.
00:19:31.000And then overall, in 2002, there was, I think, a John Jay report, maybe it was a year or so later.
00:19:37.000But in that report, the John Jay report established that 80% of the cases involved male teens between the ages of 15 and 17.
00:19:46.000And so that's basically a problem of a homosexual priesthood.
00:19:53.000Wilton Gregory, the bishop who of, I think he's in Atlanta, he once kind of let the cat out of the bag and said, you know, the priesthood in the 70s and 80s became a gay profession.
00:20:07.000And the Catholic Church is living with the consequences of that.
00:20:10.000If you turn the priesthood into a gay profession, you shouldn't be surprised when you have a massive problem with priests preying upon 15, 16, 17-year-old boys.
00:20:21.000Well, hasn't that been a common fix for homosexuality?
00:20:25.000They said, oh, well, you obviously can't do that disgusting act, so let's make you a priest.
00:20:28.000It was seen as the cure for the longest time.
00:20:32.000I think it's much more, I think these guys were much more cynical than that.
00:20:35.000I think they saw it as a way of, you know, having their cake and eating it too.
00:20:40.000And I think it goes back to the early part of the 20th century that, you know, a lot of these guys, in fact, the mentor of Cardinal Wuerl in Washington, D.C. is a man named John Wright.
00:20:52.000He was the bishop of Pittsburgh, and he became a cardinal.
00:20:57.000But he was a credibly accused pederist.
00:21:01.000And he's also been widely accused of having turned his priest secretaries into catamites or boy toys.
00:21:09.000And one of those who's been accused of that is Donald Wuerl.
00:21:13.000And while there isn't slam-dunk evidence of this, if you talk to journalists about this, like Catholic journalists in the know, and you say to them, was Donald Wuerl the boy toy of John Wright?
00:21:28.000A lot of them will say, yes, he was, but there isn't slam-dunk evidence for that.
00:21:53.000Oh, yeah, and that's a low-ball estimate.
00:21:56.000In fact, I just happened to, I was in Harrisburg on the day the report was released, and I happened to be in this hotel on the outskirts of Harrisburg, and the abuse, many of the abuse victims were staying at the same hotel.
00:23:47.000And that's why it's outrageous that the hierarchy didn't call the police on these guys and didn't do something very dramatic to protect their flock.
00:23:58.000Well, even the Pope seemed to take forever to issue a statement about all this.
00:24:02.000Well, the Pope is part of the problem.
00:24:04.000He's been protecting these cover-up artists and these, you know, he made the head of the Vatican Bank, the ecclesiastical head of the Vatican Bank, this guy named Monsignor Battista Rica, who had been found trapped in an elevator with a rent boy by firemen.
00:24:21.000And this was established by the Italian journalist Sandro Magister, who put it in his article.
00:24:27.000The Pope knew all about this guy's problems, and he still made him the ecclesiastical head of the Vatican Bank, and he's in that position to this day.
00:24:36.000You know, I'm in the Knights of Columbus, and one of the things we do when we take our oaths is I will never disparage a priest, I'll always stand up for a priest, and I'll always stand up for the Pope, and I'll never criticize the Pope.
00:24:45.000And it gets harder and harder on a daily basis not to criticize this Pope.
00:24:50.000Well, I would point out to you that that code is not part of canon law.
00:24:54.000You do have a right as a Catholic to address problems in the church, including problems posed by a pope.
00:25:14.000I feel like going to the Presbyterian church near my house this Sunday.
00:25:17.000Yeah, it's you know, we're obviously at the beginning of a very long struggle.
00:25:23.000And it's, you know, this virus is going to take a long, long time to get out of the church's system.
00:25:29.000But I think we're at the beginning of, you know, real changes.
00:25:33.000And I think all these attorney generals who are coming in and investigating this, you know, what happened in Pennsylvania, and now we have all these states, a rash of states, Vermont, New York, Missouri, you know, they're all getting in on this.
00:25:45.000And I'm hoping that actually the District of Columbia will get in on this and investigate Cardinal Wuerl and Colonel McCarrick.
00:25:52.000Because the McCarrick and Wuerl, these two guys are complete imposters.
00:26:07.000We don't even know how many people he's raped, but he preyed upon his seminarians.
00:26:12.000We know there were at least two settlements reached by two dioceses in New Jersey because of seminarians that McCarrick had hit upon.
00:26:22.000But the New York Times talked about this kid that at the age of 11, McCarrick started molesting.
00:26:29.000And then they had a relationship that went on for years and years and years.
00:26:32.000And he was just abusing him the whole time.
00:26:34.000And then the incident that actually set the whole thing off was that this man in his 70s came forward and he said, when I was an altar boy and I was getting ready for Christmas Mass, I think it was.
00:26:48.000He was in the sacristy at St. Patrick's Cathedral, I think.
00:26:50.000I think it was St. Patrick's Cathedral.
00:26:52.000And he said that in this setting, McCarrick was there and this kid, who was then 16, was, I guess, had taken off his clothes or something like that.
00:27:02.000And McCarrick grabbed his penis in the sacristy.
00:27:05.000And that was the abuse that forced the Vatican to remove McCarrick from active ministry.
00:27:12.000And now McCarrick is facing a canonical trial where he might actually be laicized.
00:27:28.000Ribbons are stripped from your uniform.
00:27:30.000I know, it's outrageous because I found actually, I was down in D.C. and I was doing on-the-ground reporting and I got a great tip from a priest.
00:27:40.000A source said to me, I know where this guy McCarrick is being sheltered, because we know that he's supposedly under house arrest or not house arrest, but basically he's supposed to be confined to prayer and penance within a house.
00:27:54.000He's living with World's Auxiliary Bishop, Bishop Mario Dorsonville.
00:27:59.000And he's living in this $2.1 million mansion right across the street from American University Law School, about three blocks from like a children's academy.
00:28:08.000And he's up on the second floor, it appears.
00:28:14.000God knows how much that costs the faithful each month, you know?
00:28:17.000And it's, yeah, as you're saying, it's like, what the heck?
00:28:20.000He gets to spend his remaining years on earth in a $2.1 million mansion.
00:28:26.000I don't even like the idea of settlements in general.
00:28:29.000I mean, obviously there's copyright violations and other areas of law, but to get financial remuneration for some sort of sexual attack is just expensive prostitution, in a sense.
00:30:14.000Oh, It's going vertical and it's because of the very active decision to bring tons and tons of homosexuals into the priesthood.
00:30:23.000That has never happened before on this scale.
00:30:26.000That happened, it really accelerated, I would say, in the 1960s, but I'm sure it started, you know, it had to have started in the 20s and the 30s.
00:30:37.000And You disagree that that was done as a way to cure homosexuality?
00:30:41.000You think it was a big grand plan to set up a rape camp?
00:30:47.000Well, it was a way for these guys to lead a covert homosexual lifestyle while living like Borgia princes and then also having a pulpit from which to preach left-wing politics.
00:31:01.000And so it was a way to kind of satisfy all of their interests.
00:31:05.000And Cardinal Spellman allegedly made a great comment or made a very illuminating remark about what these guys are thinking.
00:31:13.000And one of his friends once said to Cardinal Spellman, because Spellman was rumored to have had a gay affair with Roy Cohen.
00:31:22.000And there actually was a book, a biography done on Spelman by a Wall Street Journal reporter.
00:31:27.000And he had about like 14 pages on the homosexuality of Spelman.
00:31:30.000And the Archdiocese of New York came down on Simon & Schuster like a house of bricks.
00:31:35.000And they said, take all that material out.
00:31:36.000And he had to reduce it down to like three paragraphs or four paragraphs.
00:31:39.000But anyway, in that book, one of the stories, I believe it was from that book or from another book, was that a friend of Spelman said to him, aren't you afraid that your double life is going to shock the hell out of the faithful?
00:31:52.000And, you know, if somebody said, hey, because he would hold these, Spelman was notorious allegedly for holding these parties with Broadway boys.
00:32:00.000Like he had a thing for Broadway boys.
00:32:02.000And so he'd have these parties where all these Broadway kids were invited.
00:32:07.000And I guess at one of these parties, a friend said to Spelman, aren't you worried that you're going to be exposed?
00:32:12.000And Spelman very coolly said to the guy, who would believe that?
00:33:16.000and the the the even the moderate muslims in britain they want to sweep it under the rug and stay in denial but the the sense i'm getting from a lot of catholics now since the pittsburgh thing by the way that 10,000 that was oh well it's yeah the highball figure is 10,000 the lowball figure is 1,000.
00:33:33.000And that was just in the area of Pittsburgh?
00:33:35.000No, that was the sixth diocese that were under investigation.
00:34:35.000They were looking to minimize liability, but they weren't serious about removing this gay mafia from the church because that's really, you have to remove the gay mafia from the church in order to ensure that 15, 16, and 17-year-old boys are not going to be abused in the Catholic Church henceforth.
00:34:53.000Well, when they get to a level where they're so entrenched that removing them becomes impossible.
00:34:59.000Yeah, because yeah, you know, the people who present themselves as the solvers of the problem are the creators of the problem.
00:35:05.000So of course they're not going to solve a problem that they themselves created.
00:35:07.000Yeah, it's like fixing corruption in North Korea.
00:35:10.000Are you going to take out the few bad generals?
00:35:52.000We don't want kids getting raped and molested.
00:35:55.000Now, you've gone to these guys' homes, correct?
00:35:58.000Well, I knew where McCarrick was, and so I just, for the hell of it, to see if I could get an interview with McCarrick, I knocked on the door of this property, 4110 Warren Street, Northwest Washington.
00:36:12.000And I go to the door, and I knock on the door, I ring the doorbell, and this housekeeper comes out, and it takes her forever to open the door.
00:36:19.000And I say, I'd like to talk to Cardinal McCarrick.
00:36:44.000Yeah, it's, you know, and the guy's a rapist, you know.
00:36:47.000So actually one of my concerns, though, was if I had gone upstairs and confronted McCarrick, I was afraid that he might shoot me or something, you know.
00:37:02.000And I wanted to find out, first of all, I wanted to find out if my source was right, if this really was an Archdiocesan safe house.
00:37:08.000And when I walked around the first floor and I saw the portrait of Cardinal Donald World, the successor of McCarrick, I knew it was an Archdiocesan safe house and that my source was correct.
00:37:18.000And so then, you know, at that point, she kind of understands that I'm there for, you know, for journalistic purposes and trouble.
00:37:29.000And one of the commenters on the, when I put up this video on Facebook, one of the commenters said, yeah, she was going to call the police and you could have called ICE.
00:37:45.000But one of the reasons why they probably didn't want to call the police is that if the police had come, they would have had to identify the occupants of the house and they would have had to identify McCarrick upstairs.
00:37:57.000In fact, I called my source the next day and I said, he was up there.
00:37:59.000And my source said very quietly, yeah, he was there.
00:38:02.000So you're optimistic about all this being fixed?
00:38:06.000Well, ultimately, you know, Jesus Christ, who I believe is the founder of the Catholic Church, said the gates of hell will not prevail against the church.
00:38:14.000And so I think I think we know how the story ends.
00:38:16.000You know, we know that the church will survive, and we know, I believe, that the church is the ark of salvation for mankind that God intended.
00:38:25.000And so I think, you know, God will ensure that the church doesn't dissolve.
00:38:30.000But it's going to take a long time for the church to get back to holiness and strength.
00:38:39.000The church in a way needs a kind of trumpian figure to make allism great again.
00:38:57.000Let's take 100 members of the church, from priesthood up to the top brass.
00:39:03.000And maybe that's a deceiving analogy to do.
00:39:06.000But what percentage out of 100 are corrupt, are linked to the gay mafia, are potential predators?
00:39:16.000I would say that in terms of the gay mafia, you have people who are active participants in the gay mafia, which would be bishops and cardinals who are living active double lives.
00:40:38.000And they didn't do anything about it because the bishops have this sort of mutual non-aggression pact where, you know, I won't talk about your sins if you don't talk about mine.
00:41:25.000We are seeing a kind of cascading anger, though, which might actually produce a new crop of bishops.
00:41:33.000But I'm not holding my breath as to a kind of sweeping reform in my lifetime.
00:41:38.000But I think in 100 years from now, I think Catholics will look back at this moment and say, okay, this was the beginning of serious reform right now.
00:42:17.000Well, actually, a lot of conservative Catholics who are freaking out over this, some of them will say, well, maybe I should become an Eastern Orthodox, you know, because at least those guys are straight, you know.