Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - Ep 194 | Columbus Day | Get Off My Lawn

00:00:27.000 Michael, welcome to the show.

00:00:29.000 Thanks, Gavin.

00:00:31.000 Oh, it's like back in the motherland.

00:00:33.000 Yeah, that's what I start every show with by kissing the guests.

00:00:35.000 With women, we make out sometimes for a few minutes. 0.93

00:00:38.000 You're like a modern-day Richard Dawson.

00:00:40.000 Yeah.

00:00:40.000 Who's Richard Dawson again?

00:00:42.000 The Host of Family Fuge.

00:00:43.000 Oh, I thought it was a Host of Dawson Screek.

00:00:46.000 Today is Columbus Day.

00:00:48.000 Yeah.

00:00:48.000 But there's also been a push for a very long time.

00:00:50.000 People think this is a new thing, but for decades, there's been a push to make it Indigenous Peoples Day.

00:00:59.000 Because apparently what Christopher Columbus did was colonization, and colonization is bad.

00:01:05.000 I got an idea.

00:01:06.000 Okay.

00:01:07.000 If you don't know how to use a calendar, we don't name a day after you.

00:01:12.000 Now, if they had called it Mayan Day or Aztec Day in Mexico, that would make sense because they had very sophisticated calendars.

00:01:19.000 But my understanding is the Native Americans in North America that Columbus interacted with did not.

00:01:25.000 Correct.

00:01:25.000 Well, I don't think he made it to North America.

00:01:28.000 He was a tropical dude.

00:01:29.000 Yeah, yes.

00:01:30.000 And those people, like there's this, the general understanding is that the Indians have this peaceful country called America.

00:01:38.000 Right.

00:01:38.000 And Christopher Columbus landed maybe at Plymouth Rock and then killed them all, took their land, and that's how we have America.

00:01:47.000 He never went to America.

00:01:49.000 There's some that came up the side after him and made, you know, California and so on.

00:01:54.000 I believe there was like a black plague that killed most of the, 94% of the Indians.

00:01:59.000 I don't think it was black plague per se, but yeah.

00:02:01.000 Yeah, it was a massive disease that could have been linked to Columbus up the coast.

00:02:08.000 But the thing that no one ever talks about is his brutal violence was the general parlance of the time.

00:02:16.000 That's how people warred and interacted.

00:02:19.000 Yeah, conquest is when someone you don't like wins.

00:02:22.000 Right.

00:02:23.000 He went there and he did murder like 13 savages and have their heads on pikes, but that's because that's what the savages were doing to his guys.

00:02:31.000 Yeah, I'm not a particular authority on Columbus whatsoever, but you know, thank you for coming on this.

00:02:36.000 What's interesting in this context is before it was Martin Luther King Day, they wanted to call it Black People Day.

00:02:41.000 Did you know this?

00:02:42.000 No.

00:02:42.000 And Martin Luther King Day was the compromise for some reason, which I'm not particularly aware of what the reason was.

00:02:48.000 So this is just, you know, kind of identity politics.

00:02:51.000 Let's take what was in the past and recontextualize it in modern evangelical precepts.

00:02:57.000 Well, I've even heard people say, you know, what he did was way over the line, and even he apologized later.

00:03:05.000 First of all, he was Jewish.

00:03:06.000 Jews are always apologizing. 1.00

00:03:08.000 Sure.

00:03:09.000 And yeah, I guess he felt bad that some of the wars didn't go as planned.

00:03:14.000 That's the way conquering goes.

00:03:17.000 Yeah, and I mean, it's, there's a lot to be said for Columbus.

00:03:22.000 There's a lot to be said for being people who are like, I'm going to get in these ships and I'm just going to go as far as I can and hope I come out the other side.

00:03:28.000 You know, there's something admirable about that.

00:03:31.000 But I mean, if you want to honor Indigenous people, I don't think most people in America know anything about Indigenous culture, myself included.

00:03:38.000 All I know is like, okay, they get guaranteed one sentency from Massachusetts.

00:03:41.000 That's the list.

00:03:42.000 Like, I don't know.

00:03:43.000 I mean, and also the thing that's offensive, as you know this from being from Canada, is Indigenous people aren't one thing.

00:03:50.000 There are different tribes.

00:03:52.000 Even in America, there's 3,000 tribes.

00:03:54.000 And they're different types of cultures.

00:03:56.000 Correct.

00:03:57.000 And they hate each other.

00:03:58.000 Yeah, and the one thing I know about Canada is they don't say Eskimo anymore.

00:04:01.000 It's a slur, right?

00:04:02.000 You have to say Inuit.

00:04:03.000 But the word Inuit does not refer to all Native Canadians.

00:04:06.000 It refers to specifically the Inuit tribe.

00:04:08.000 So you're referring to people who are specifically not Inuit as Inuit.

00:04:12.000 Well, I think that all the ones in the top that eat the fish, the frozen blubber, are Inuit. 1.00

00:04:17.000 And then the ones down there are closer to the border are various other different tribes like Mohawks. 0.98

00:04:22.000 Right, but they're called Inuit.

00:04:23.000 No, no, no, no.

00:04:24.000 You don't call Mohawks Inuit.

00:04:25.000 They're called First Nations or something like that?

00:04:28.000 Yeah.

00:04:29.000 Here's the big picture that I don't understand.

00:04:31.000 This is happening with Kavanaugh, which we'll get to in a second.

00:04:34.000 We can't not.

00:04:36.000 I don't know what you want, you being the liberal left.

00:04:40.000 Like, I was talking to an Indian relative through my wife, and she said, I wish you guys never came here. 1.00

00:04:47.000 Because I think it was last Columbus Day.

00:04:48.000 No, no, she met you.

00:04:50.000 She met you at their house.

00:04:52.000 I met my wife to that bar. 0.73

00:04:53.000 I wish they were.

00:04:54.000 Oh, now the penny drops.

00:04:57.000 That's why you were talking past each other so much.

00:05:00.000 No, I'm glad white people came here and made this awesome bar and invented beer. 0.93

00:05:04.000 But you need to go.

00:05:06.000 No, and I said to her, what's your series of events?

00:05:11.000 So there's a wall and no one from Europe ever comes here?

00:05:15.000 And it's just Indians, like with skyscrapers and briefcases and there's a whole chunk, Navajo, Wall Street, and you have mines and stuff that the Indians are running? 0.99

00:05:27.000 Do you really think that's possible?

00:05:29.000 They didn't have the population, first of all.

00:05:31.000 And that black plague thing I was talking about further decimated their population. 0.87

00:05:36.000 So North America was basically empty when the pilgrims came here. 0.54

00:05:40.000 What do you want to have happened?

00:05:42.000 Well, it's also this kind of idea that, yeah, they want it to be like Japan, where it's kind of isolated and kind of its own thing for a very, very long time.

00:05:49.000 But Japan weren't exactly nice people. 1.00

00:05:52.000 No, no, and they were terrorizing the Chinese. 0.93

00:05:55.000 But this is what's so funny.

00:05:56.000 So much of modern leftism is based on Rousseau and this idea that before civilization, things had certain advantages that we later lost.

00:06:03.000 But it's like, you know, when they use all the different parts of the buffalo, they're trying to make them out to be these hippies.

00:06:08.000 Yes.

00:06:08.000 It's like when you're using all the parts of the buffalo, it's not a function of being an environmentalist.

00:06:12.000 It's a function of being hungry.

00:06:13.000 It's a function of not having material wealth.

00:06:16.000 And if these were these early pre-hippies, why are all these teams named after them?

00:06:20.000 They were named after them because they were proud warriors.

00:06:22.000 Like these strong alpha men who would fought back very heavily.

00:06:28.000 There's a woman who was, what's her name, American Jezebel, the one who founded Rhode Island, she was scalped.

00:06:33.000 Like the rock she was hiding behind is still on the BQE.

00:06:36.000 So this was a long concern for many of the American colonists.

00:06:40.000 So the idea these people were weak and weren't just conquered readily is false.

00:06:44.000 Yeah, it's also kind of demeaning to them that they were so easily taken over.

00:06:48.000 No, it was 400 years we fought the Indians. 0.56

00:06:50.000 You guys put up a great fight, but you also played pretty dirty pool.

00:06:53.000 You killed our babies.

00:06:55.000 Yeah.

00:06:55.000 You stabbed our mothers.

00:06:56.000 You raped our sisters. 0.98

00:06:58.000 And we're partuum.

00:06:59.000 And we raped you back. 1.00

00:07:00.000 Yeah, it was ugly.

00:07:02.000 You know, this comes up with South Africa, they say, you know, it was legal to hunt Zulus for 40 years.

00:07:07.000 You just see a Zulu, you kill them. 1.00

00:07:09.000 And yes, that's true.

00:07:11.000 But why was that true?

00:07:13.000 Well, the Boers had a treaty with the Zulus, and they worked it all out, and the Boers fought with the Zulus against other tribes, and the first Prime Minister Bota spoke Zulu, and he worked with them, and they set up this land deal.

00:07:26.000 And you can have this terrible, crappy land that's really hard to farm, but you'll figure out, you'll do irrigation and all that.

00:07:32.000 They make the deal.

00:07:33.000 Sounds good.

00:07:33.000 Let's go sign it.

00:07:35.000 They go to sign it and the Zulus murder the head of the Boers. 1.00

00:07:39.000 I forgot what his name was.

00:07:40.000 He might have been Bota too, on this bridge, massacre him and his entire family, and almost completely wipe out the Boers as a betrayal as the deal was being signed. 1.00

00:07:49.000 So they did all this work with them, and they stabbed them in the back.

00:07:52.000 So they said, you know what?

00:07:53.000 Screw the Zulus. 1.00

00:07:54.000 This is war.

00:07:56.000 And it happened a lot with the Indians in North America.

00:07:59.000 Yes, there was the Trail of Tears and our treatment of them, especially after we became more modern and were separating them from their families.

00:08:05.000 Yes, that was disgusting.

00:08:07.000 But that was what you did back then.

00:08:09.000 Well, it's also, to me, very weird to conflate Native Americans and Aztecs and Incas and Mayans.

00:08:16.000 These are very completely different cultures.

00:08:18.000 They're completely different races. 0.99

00:08:19.000 So to kind of have them all be one thing under Indigenous Peoples Day. 0.90

00:08:22.000 Honestly, it would make more sense to me to have Indigenous Peoples Month because there's a lot to learn about.

00:08:28.000 This is a very interesting...

00:08:33.000 I studied them a lot growing up.

00:08:35.000 And Cuesta Coatland, their mythology, we have their myth structures, which are fascinating to read about.

00:08:40.000 But yeah, but just this, it's not about indigenous people.

00:08:43.000 It's about denigrating Columbus and the Western idea of conquest.

00:08:47.000 Yes.

00:08:48.000 You can do both.

00:08:49.000 You can celebrate Indigenous people and Columbus.

00:08:51.000 And I don't know why we see Columbus as strictly the Indian murdering guy.

00:08:55.000 I mean, he was an incredible explorer, and he sort of spread the whole concept of spice and changed food permanently.

00:09:03.000 Yeah, the conquistadors were much worse than him.

00:09:06.000 Right.

00:09:06.000 Yeah, I mean, they came and there were like two of them against the whole civilization.

00:09:10.000 Their arms were getting tired because they were the only ones who had swords and they were just killing people for hours.

00:09:14.000 It was this insane bloodbath.

00:09:16.000 I guess the.

00:09:17.000 And let's also talk about how many of these cultures would sacrifice children and pull hearts out of people in order to appease the gods. 0.51

00:09:24.000 So it's, again, this idea that they were basically burning man is ridiculous.

00:09:30.000 Right.

00:09:30.000 You know, you see that too in the Middle East right now, where they'll eat a man's heart.

00:09:35.000 These Arab savages will eat a soldier's heart. 1.00

00:09:38.000 Then they'll also cut his fingers off and sell them at the local market because there's literally a market for dismembered and disfigured soldier, white American soldier parts.

00:09:49.000 Not white, American soldier parts.

00:09:51.000 Wait, really?

00:09:52.000 Yes.

00:09:52.000 And I talk to military guys who say the most disgusting thing they saw out of all the carnage was these guys in Iraq just laughing, talking, and there's a stray dog and they have these shearing scissors and they just cut his ears off.

00:10:05.000 And he's like, walking around with blood coming out of where his ears were, and then they're laughing.

00:10:13.000 Cultures are different.

00:10:15.000 People are different.

00:10:17.000 And some are more primitive than others.

00:10:19.000 Now, I'm not saying you go kill savages every time you see them, but to get back to that woman saying, I wish Columbus or you white people never came here, I go, you hadn't invented the wheel. 0.54

00:10:30.000 We were having the Industrial Revolution.

00:10:33.000 How can those two coexist?

00:10:34.000 Inevitably, the ones with the wheels and the machines and the steam engines are going to start coming over here.

00:10:40.000 Right.

00:10:41.000 And yeah, it's, I think a lot of, there's nothing more white than hating white culture, right? 0.68

00:10:48.000 So for her to act like this, I don't think it's necessarily a function of her being indigenous.

00:10:51.000 It's her being a function of listening to the Avenger on the left and what the corporate press likes to tell people.

00:10:57.000 You know, I think a lot of these discussions come to white people hating white people.

00:11:02.000 How can you be a medicine woman and hate medicine?

00:11:05.000 It doesn't make sense.

00:11:07.000 Who hates white people?

00:11:09.000 I hate white people who hate white people.

00:11:11.000 Yeah.

00:11:12.000 I've had enough of it.

00:11:13.000 And it's always the, like even with Kavanaugh, what is the real underpinning here?

00:11:18.000 It's that he might overturn Roe v.

00:11:20.000 Wade and these drug sluts won't be able to have their abortions. 1.00

00:11:24.000 What I find disturbing about Kavanaugh is I think there are a lot of women who are sexual assault survivors.

00:11:30.000 And I think they don't know how to deal with it.

00:11:32.000 And I, because there's no guidebook for them.

00:11:33.000 And I do feel very empathetic for them.

00:11:35.000 But what the left has done since the 60s is this idea of the personal as a political.

00:11:39.000 And what I wish I could tell these people from a sense of empathy is, that's not the guy who did that to you.

00:11:44.000 Maybe he's a frat douchebag.

00:11:46.000 Maybe you're seeing him in what happened to you.

00:11:48.000 But that's not literally the same person.

00:11:50.000 Yes, I get that.

00:11:52.000 But when you look at rape, there's this understanding that it's the, you know, you've heard the term date raping jock.

00:11:59.000 Yeah.

00:12:00.000 And I grew up with that as a, you know, a hipster kid, whatever kid, and we always saw the jocks as the rapists.

00:12:06.000 And then I get older and I see, well, ethnically, it's disproportionately black.

00:12:13.000 And also, when it comes to the white ones doing it, I find the beta males are the ones crawling on top of the passed out girl much more than the letter-wearing frat boys in the football team. 0.53

00:12:23.000 Sure.

00:12:24.000 Yeah, but then you could, right.

00:12:26.000 It's much more nuanced than that.

00:12:27.000 You see all the, like what I tweeted this out a couple weeks ago, I said, so do the male feminists who committed sexual assault believe Dr. Ford?

00:12:34.000 Like, they're the ones we should be asking because they'll know, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's telling the truth.

00:12:38.000 I mean, they're the ones to worry about because they think because they're feminists, by definition, they can't be assailants. 1.00

00:12:44.000 Oh, I see.

00:12:45.000 And I'm arguing that they are disproportionately more.

00:12:48.000 Yes, because they won't feel guilt because they won't recognize what they're doing is wrong.

00:12:52.000 Here's the other thing.

00:12:52.000 Here's what I think is, I don't think it's that implausible.

00:12:55.000 You remember 1982.

00:12:57.000 I don't think it's that implausible for a drunk high school in 1982 to pin a girl down to bed and like think it's funny and never think about it again.

00:13:04.000 Yes.

00:13:05.000 Well, if you read Bonnie McFarlane's book, you know the comedian?

00:13:08.000 Yeah, of course.

00:13:09.000 She's great.

00:13:10.000 She's funny and she's got this book called I'm Better Than You.

00:13:12.000 She grew up in, I think, Edmonton or in Canada somewhere, rural Canada.

00:13:16.000 She was very poor.

00:13:17.000 And she talks about a scene in it where she was raped and she was downstairs having sex and she was screaming.

00:13:25.000 And her friends were upstairs and they were like, she's 18 years old.

00:13:30.000 It's about time she got laid. 1.00

00:13:31.000 She can handle it.

00:13:33.000 And it was treated like getting a tattoo or some sort of initiation.

00:13:38.000 And so she was like, I think that was a pretty big deal.

00:13:42.000 And they go, oh, shut up, Bonnie. 0.90

00:13:44.000 You were just, you were the last one of us to pop your cherry.

00:13:47.000 It's time to get going here.

00:13:49.000 So then when she went to get an abortion, I guess in that province, you were allowed to get an abortion if it was rape. 1.00

00:13:55.000 And she goes, oh, wait a minute.

00:13:56.000 I checked off all these boxes.

00:13:58.000 I was raped.

00:13:58.000 Hey, I was raped.

00:14:00.000 But back then, this probably would have been the 80s.

00:14:03.000 Right.

00:14:03.000 Back then, it was like, ah, you got raped.

00:14:06.000 Well, I don't think that.

00:14:07.000 It wouldn't even be called rape.

00:14:07.000 It was like, you got sex.

00:14:09.000 In all fairness, Dr. Ford's stand-up act isn't as good as Bonnie's.

00:14:13.000 But in the 50s or 60s, there was something called a masher, right?

00:14:17.000 Which was a guy would take a girl and start making out with her. 0.99

00:14:19.000 And she'd be like, oh, you, you masher. 1.00

00:14:21.000 So, like, Bill Clinton got sh ⁇ for saying something which is true, that our definition of consent has changed over time.

00:14:27.000 Yes.

00:14:28.000 And what she was talking about, Dr. Ford, I bet you something like that.

00:14:31.000 I think she's telling the truth about something.

00:14:33.000 When people are like, oh, how does she not remember?

00:14:35.000 When something weird happens to you, a lot of times you forget the details and your brain combines things together.

00:14:40.000 And your brain pushes it out.

00:14:41.000 Yeah.

00:14:42.000 Well, the thing that I don't understand about the left, I don't know what they want.

00:14:47.000 Like, even if he was guilty, they want cultural evidence.

00:14:50.000 And I knew he was guilty.

00:14:51.000 I would say, there's no evidence.

00:14:54.000 I mean, we live in a society where we're so strict.

00:14:56.000 And by the way, thank you conquistadors, conquistadors, for your Magna Carta, because you said there's no rule book.

00:15:01.000 There is a rule book.

00:15:02.000 It's called the law.

00:15:03.000 You get molested, you get raped, you get assaulted, you go to the cops and work it out.

00:15:07.000 You don't ruin a man's life based on hearsay.

00:15:09.000 And the thing is, you should report at the time.

00:15:11.000 Yes.

00:15:11.000 You don't wait 30 years.

00:15:12.000 Like, that's the part I don't have sympathy with her for.

00:15:15.000 Even though I understand an emotional level, in a legal and professional level, you can't work with that.

00:15:20.000 But even, like, say, so we live in a world where if the guy doesn't read his Miranda rights correctly, the whole case is thrown out.

00:15:26.000 And we want that to happen because we want to have a strict sense of justice in this country.

00:15:30.000 So say he did it.

00:15:32.000 I still would say, sorry, without evidence, I'm not putting anyone in jail because the overall system, the law is you need evidence to prosecute.

00:15:40.000 Or else, obviously, you'll just be in a situation where you can just go, ah, that guy raped me, that guy raped me, which is actually a Twilight Zone episode.

00:15:46.000 I think what they just want is to have the appearance of illegitimacy, right?

00:15:50.000 So now for the rest of time, they can say, well, this decision doesn't count because he's a rapist.

00:15:54.000 Even though no one literally accused him of rape, even Swetnik never accused him of rape, they can say with a straight face, a rapist is now on the Supreme Court, therefore all these decisions are illegitimate.

00:16:04.000 And they can say that honestly in their minds.

00:16:07.000 So why are they crying?

00:16:09.000 Because they're losing power.

00:16:12.000 I mean, their jig is up.

00:16:13.000 Yeah, but this is, let's get specific here, because you're the North Korean expert.

00:16:18.000 I am.

00:16:18.000 And I was watching when the previous dude died.

00:16:21.000 Kim Jong-il.

00:16:22.000 And I'm watching it like a hawk on TV because I'll never be able to figure out if they really love him or not and if it's an actor or not.

00:16:29.000 And I saw tears falling from actual eyeballs and you could see the tear stains on the cement.

00:16:34.000 Now these women crying, are they, I mean the real tears, are they crying because Roe v.

00:16:41.000 Wade, are they crying because they think they live in a world where you can rape someone if you're powerful?

00:16:45.000 Because they didn't care when Bill Clinton was doing it.

00:16:48.000 I honestly don't understand this.

00:16:49.000 This is like one of those charismatic religious meetings, right?

00:16:52.000 When people all get around and everyone's speaking in tongues and they're crying and hysterical, but that's literally the same thing.

00:16:58.000 This is their religion.

00:16:59.000 And when you get them all together and they're all chanting, you get overcome by the spirit.

00:17:02.000 It's the exact same psychological phenomenon.

00:17:04.000 So if I was to pluck one of these women away, take them to a mountaintop and have a nice meal, maybe burritos. 1.00

00:17:13.000 Sure.

00:17:15.000 Nothing phallic.

00:17:16.000 Tacos.

00:17:16.000 Well, the burritos at Chipotle are so fat that there's no penis that big.

00:17:24.000 I'm pretty sure.

00:17:25.000 Okay.

00:17:26.000 You have three glasses of wine.

00:17:28.000 You wipe your chin off.

00:17:30.000 And you go, all right.

00:17:32.000 Why were you crying?

00:17:33.000 What is your problem?

00:17:36.000 And would she say, oh, that, we were just caught up in the moment.

00:17:39.000 I know he's not going to overturn Roe v.

00:17:40.000 Wade.

00:17:41.000 And I'm actually kind of pro-life, you know, when I think about it.

00:17:43.000 Even if Roe v.

00:17:44.000 Wade's overturned, it would still be legal in the Blue States, right? 0.91

00:17:47.000 It would become a states issue again.

00:17:49.000 I think what she would be crying about, and I obviously can't speak for this hypothetical person, is people feel silenced and they feel powerless and they feel invisible.

00:17:56.000 But you're not, see, that's the other thing.

00:17:58.000 You weren't silenced.

00:17:59.000 You had a trial.

00:18:00.000 FBI there, jury.

00:18:01.000 And you didn't get what you wanted.

00:18:02.000 You ruined the guy's life.

00:18:03.000 You didn't get what you wanted in 2016.

00:18:04.000 But that's what I'm screaming.

00:18:06.000 You did get what you want.

00:18:07.000 You wanted a fair trial.

00:18:08.000 You can't just want a fair trial.

00:18:09.000 They want a fair fiction.

00:18:09.000 No, they didn't want a fair trial.

00:18:11.000 Ah.

00:18:11.000 Well, then, isn't that bizarre that someone's crying because they didn't get their unjust thing?

00:18:15.000 No.

00:18:16.000 I mean, why would you want justice in politics?

00:18:20.000 Okay, so they are Look at these men.

00:18:24.000 You are so human.

00:18:26.000 We're going to be polite.

00:18:27.000 You're so human.

00:18:29.000 It just works up like that.

00:18:30.000 Black lives matter.

00:18:40.000 She's okay.

00:18:41.000 It's so bad.

00:18:41.000 How does she play?

00:18:43.000 What's Boston's got to do with it?

00:18:45.000 She's on camera.

00:18:46.000 F*** you! 1.00

00:18:49.000 F*** you! 1.00

00:18:52.000 Shame!

00:18:53.000 Shame!

00:18:53.000 Oh, that's a big one.

00:18:55.000 Shame!

00:18:56.000 I don't know what that means in this context.

00:18:59.000 The shame of who?

00:19:01.000 The judge?

00:19:02.000 I think it's the shame of people saying we don't care what Christine Ford had to say.

00:19:07.000 But we did care!

00:19:08.000 We heard the whole thing!

00:19:10.000 And clearly, she was telling the truth.

00:19:15.000 I don't know how clear that was.

00:19:16.000 But from their perspective, here's the question I had.

00:19:19.000 What did she say happened?

00:19:20.000 He jumped on top of her.

00:19:21.000 He dry humped her, put his hand on his mouth, dry humped her, and then fell off the bed laughing and left the room.

00:19:26.000 Yeah, that's not implausible.

00:19:29.000 That's not implausible at all, that he thought it was a joke.

00:19:32.000 Yeah, I don't see.

00:19:33.000 I mean, I feel like even if a gay guy did that to me, I'd go, get off me, Kevin. 0.99

00:19:38.000 Right.

00:19:38.000 So it's very, it's something's, I don't think she's lying per se.

00:19:42.000 I don't think she's some operative because when you're lying, you have the story straight.

00:19:45.000 You've got all the basis, you have your story down.

00:19:48.000 She was being honest, like, I don't remember a lot of this stuff.

00:19:50.000 So something is going on there.

00:19:52.000 Memory's a tricky thing.

00:19:53.000 So wait a minute.

00:19:54.000 A guy can't be a Supreme Court judge if he fell on you with a boner and his hand on him.

00:19:58.000 But here's the thing.

00:19:58.000 They weren't going to vote for him regardless.

00:20:00.000 This was just a rationalization.

00:20:01.000 Politics is about what do I need to say in order to justify what I was going to do anyway.

00:20:06.000 Okay, so what you're saying is, all of these.

00:20:08.000 Are you getting all Kathy Newman on me?

00:20:10.000 So what you're saying is rape is fun and women should be raped. 0.99

00:20:13.000 Yeah.

00:20:14.000 What you're saying is that all of these criers, and I have more I want to show, are acting. 0.98

00:20:20.000 Like, look at this one.

00:20:21.000 Is that the video or just the picture?

00:20:22.000 No, I don't think they're acting per se.

00:20:25.000 Cassandra, sorry to interrupt you.

00:20:26.000 Cassandra's got a bunch of videos.

00:20:28.000 Cassandra, she's great.

00:20:29.000 Yeah, that's her there with the guy. 0.99

00:20:31.000 Oh, this guy.

00:20:34.000 There, there, check her out. 1.00

00:20:35.000 Exactly.

00:20:35.000 Everything.

00:20:36.000 Judge her.

00:20:37.000 I don't understand.

00:20:41.000 We're betraying a sexuality. 0.95

00:20:44.000 Does she think that she's going to have to keep the baby? 1.00

00:20:49.000 You're completely familiar with social psychology.

00:20:51.000 And when people get roots and it becomes this kind of neurotic emotional thing.

00:20:55.000 I know, but there's so many of them.

00:20:57.000 This is so beyond Scientology.

00:20:58.000 Show another one.

00:21:00.000 It's a cult.

00:21:02.000 these people have been taught since birth through every form of media and in school that this is appropriate and Camille Carley calls it institutionalized neurosis.

00:21:10.000 Oh wait, stop.

00:21:11.000 Oh wait, this is the best one.

00:21:13.000 This works.

00:21:13.000 These big doors.

00:21:15.000 What do they think is on the other side?

00:21:19.000 What do they think is on the other side?

00:21:21.000 A big gold key?

00:21:25.000 No, it's a key.

00:21:26.000 And that takes you to the next place.

00:21:28.000 Here's the other thing.

00:21:29.000 You say you're talking about...

00:21:35.000 Those doors are fine.

00:21:36.000 That's not how you do it.

00:21:37.000 That's not rioting.

00:21:38.000 The doors are fine.

00:21:39.000 The cars are fine.

00:21:40.000 You're crying on the floor.

00:21:41.000 That's not a riot.

00:21:43.000 This is how you riot.

00:21:44.000 You start fires with Molotov cocktails.

00:21:46.000 Break windows.

00:21:47.000 And then when the fire department comes, you stab the fire hoses.

00:21:50.000 Yes.

00:21:50.000 Help dilute that forward.

00:21:51.000 There's got to be at least one car tipped over.

00:21:53.000 You've got to be standing on a car.

00:21:54.000 There has to be shirtlessness.

00:21:56.000 Yep.

00:21:56.000 Looting.

00:21:58.000 Take your t-shirt off and put it on your head as a mask and then hold up your fist like that on top of the overturned car.

00:22:02.000 I don't think a single CBS lost a single product.

00:22:06.000 All the lacroix was still in the water cooler, ready to be purchased by these people.

00:22:11.000 What a bizarre group of babies.

00:22:14.000 And, you know, there's this strange pattern here where they go, oh, this was my favorite one.

00:22:18.000 I know you like the doors best, but this woman was screaming, just screaming at the top of her lungs. 1.00

00:22:24.000 We are sick of this.

00:22:25.000 And she used the word patriarchal, bullshit. 0.97

00:22:30.000 This is more colonization.

00:22:32.000 This, on Columbus Day, homophobia, racism, and bigotry towards the LGBTQ community.

00:22:42.000 Right.

00:22:43.000 What the hell has that got to do with Kavanaugh?

00:22:45.000 What was amazing is that if we were in saner times, we had Susan Collins praising Kavanaugh's gay rights record on the floor of the Senate, a Republican woman.

00:22:55.000 If this were saner times, this would be regarded as a huge step forward.

00:22:58.000 Like, look, we have a Republican praising the conservative Supreme Court justice gay rights record.

00:23:02.000 But it's completely oblivious to this because ideas that haven't been derived from evidence aren't going to be dissuaded by evidence.

00:23:08.000 You're dealing with a fundamentalist faith.

00:23:10.000 And once people acknowledge that and realize that, it's a lot easier to drive them crazy.

00:23:16.000 All right.

00:23:17.000 So your contention is this is North Korea.

00:23:21.000 No.

00:23:21.000 North Korea, there's a gun to those people's heads.

00:23:24.000 And they're watching each other.

00:23:25.000 So those are fake tears in North Korea?

00:23:27.000 It's a mix.

00:23:27.000 Because they're also crying because what the f ⁇ happens now.

00:23:30.000 That's part of the tears.

00:23:31.000 And part of this, everyone's watching me.

00:23:33.000 This is...

00:23:36.000 Oh, I'm so sorry.

00:23:37.000 I'm so sorry.

00:23:37.000 Sorry, kids at home.

00:23:38.000 I get upset when I talk about Kim Jong-un.

00:23:41.000 With this, it's also people are watching, but it's also these are people who are being rewarded for being performative with their emotions.

00:23:49.000 So in North Korea, they're pretending and they're scared. 0.69

00:23:52.000 It's a mix.

00:23:53.000 It's not just pretty much.

00:23:54.000 And it's a mix.

00:23:54.000 But here, they are totally pretending and they've just sort of brainwashed themselves.

00:24:00.000 I would say delusional more than pretending.

00:24:03.000 Because the girls crying that we saw, they're crying because a serial rapist is now in the Supreme Court. 0.99

00:24:09.000 Just like when they said that Donald Trump, after saying you can grab their p, now that he's president, women are just going to have their genitalia. 1.00

00:24:17.000 No, they're crying because there's people around them who think like they do and they will be rewarded for crying.

00:24:22.000 Right, but the pretext to all of that.

00:24:23.000 The pretext, yes.

00:24:24.000 This evil satanic person is now in the Supreme Court.

00:24:28.000 And what I cannot figure out is how much do they believe that straw man argument?

00:24:34.000 How much do they believe that Kavanaugh himself is going to change the abortion laws and be lax on rape and torture blacks and torture girls?

00:24:43.000 I don't think that they are thinking in those terms.

00:24:44.000 I think they're talking in terms of how much am I represented on the Supreme Court and in the presidency.

00:24:49.000 Now the answer is zero.

00:24:50.000 And that's scary.

00:24:51.000 They got RBG.

00:24:53.000 But she has no sway.

00:24:55.000 I see, because she's outnumbered.

00:24:57.000 Right.

00:24:58.000 Have you heard the theory that she's dead?

00:25:02.000 Oh, that the nose is going to just slide out of her face. 1.00

00:25:04.000 Because if you watch, you don't see her blink.

00:25:07.000 And sometimes when she lifts her hand, it looks like someone's fishing line.

00:25:11.000 No, it's fishing line.

00:25:13.000 Someone's up in the raft.

00:25:15.000 Hi, Ruth.

00:25:16.000 This is something I learned.

00:25:17.000 There's a member of the Supreme Court who has a magic power, Stephen Breyer, where no one remembers he exists.

00:25:25.000 He's 80.

00:25:27.000 And no one ever thinks about him.

00:25:29.000 And it's like everyone's eyes are on Bader Ginsburg.

00:25:31.000 I predict it's going to be one of the other three that leaves before Ginsburg.

00:25:36.000 And when you say leave, do you mean this mortal coil?

00:25:38.000 Or it could be they retire, or they could be hit by a car, God forbid.

00:25:41.000 But because things have been going in such hilarious, trolly directions, I bet it's going to be one of the other three that steps down in some capacity before Ginsburg.

00:25:50.000 Huh.

00:25:51.000 And then we will totally control.

00:25:54.000 And then the lulls will be unprecedented.

00:25:57.000 Do you think Antony Scalice Was killed?

00:26:01.000 No, I tweeted that out.

00:26:02.000 It got viral.

00:26:03.000 I said, the deep state's really regretting murdering Antonin Scalia today.

00:26:07.000 Antonin Scalia.

00:26:08.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:26:09.000 What conspiracy theories do you think are true?

00:26:13.000 That there was Saudi involvement in 9-11.

00:26:16.000 And what was the Saudi involvement?

00:26:17.000 I don't know, but there were pages redacted from the 9-11 report.

00:26:20.000 So it's indisputably true that something's being hidden.

00:26:23.000 Yeah, I have no problem with that.

00:26:24.000 But the thing is, it was so cheap.

00:26:26.000 It was only $10,000 to send those guys to that flight school.

00:26:29.000 It's indisputable that they're hiding something.

00:26:31.000 If they're redacting pages, something's being hidden.

00:26:33.000 Whether it's innocuous or not, something's being hidden.

00:26:35.000 Maybe the American government is embarrassed that they were so friendly with Saudi Arabia for so long.

00:26:38.000 It could be something simple that.

00:26:40.000 Saudi Arabia had a rapier behind it.

00:26:41.000 What conspiracy theories do I think are true?

00:26:43.000 I don't think there are that many.

00:26:45.000 What are some examples that you're thinking of?

00:26:47.000 I believe that Hillary Clinton inadvertently is responsible for multiple deaths. 0.82

00:26:56.000 Oh, yeah.

00:26:56.000 I talked to Jessica Tarlove about this on my show.

00:26:59.000 I said, if you're a president and your job is to send people to war and you're going to cost Americans their lives, not to mention people overseas, why wouldn't you have a compunction about killing that one person to maintain your hold on power psychologically?

00:27:13.000 And here's my further evidence.

00:27:16.000 G. Gordon Liddy, who is awesome in his autobiography, Will, when Watergate was going down and he had the Supreme Court, the presidency, and the Congress against him, all three branches, he called his buddy in either the CAA or the FBI and he said, look, I'm worried about my family.

00:27:29.000 If you need me to stand on a street corner and take me out, just let me know.

00:27:32.000 And they go, well, it hasn't gotten to that point.

00:27:34.000 So he lays this out openly.

00:27:39.000 Yeah.

00:27:40.000 I also read recently about a case, I think it was around Vince Foster, where there was a guy who had been talking to the FBI, and they kept trying to make him say something, a blink to Vince, and he wouldn't say it.

00:27:52.000 And then he saw the FBI report, and there he was in it, saying the opposite of what he had been saying.

00:27:58.000 They couldn't get him to say it, so they just wrote it down anyway.

00:28:00.000 So here we have an example of the FBI committing a crime.

00:28:04.000 We also have examples of Hillary's people going into Vince Foster's office and removing documents, which is illegal.

00:28:12.000 So I have the Hillary machine on record doing crimes. 0.96

00:28:16.000 Murder is a much more severe crime, but you're already on the path.

00:28:21.000 There's already some stuff there.

00:28:23.000 I mean, George W.H.W. Bush, George W. Bush's father, was head of the CIA before he was vice president.

00:28:28.000 I mean, these people are involved.

00:28:30.000 But CIA, what we know about, was involved in those sorts of chicanery, right? 0.79

00:28:33.000 There were multiple assassination attempts abroad, experimenting on their own soldiers with hallucinogens, things like that.

00:28:39.000 So, yeah, if there was something that they did, I wouldn't be surprised.

00:28:42.000 And frankly, that's their job.

00:28:43.000 Their job is to do things secretly.

00:28:45.000 Yes, but not kill mistresses. 0.95

00:28:47.000 Sure.

00:28:48.000 And I think when you look at all of them, they all started around 92 when Bill Clinton was running.

00:28:53.000 And that's when his deaf interpreter, like the sign language chick, who left him, she was murdered at a coffee joint.

00:28:59.000 I didn't know this, okay.

00:29:00.000 Shot in the head.

00:29:00.000 They didn't take any money.

00:29:02.000 And then they all started happening.

00:29:03.000 Done before that, and tons since, and I think that I thought there was stuff going on even in Arkansas, was my understanding.

00:29:12.000 Well, she was defending the pedophile, right?

00:29:14.000 Right, but that was her job.

00:29:16.000 Yes, but enjoying it too much.

00:29:18.000 Okay.

00:29:20.000 But no, I don't think there was that many deaths.

00:29:23.000 Oh, I'll give you another one that I believe.

00:29:24.000 Okay.

00:29:25.000 Something is going on with Comet Pizza.

00:29:27.000 Oh, okay.

00:29:28.000 Because if you saw those photos where there's children whose hands are scotch taped to the table, I don't think it's necessarily pedophilia, but it's weird as hell.

00:29:36.000 Yeah.

00:29:37.000 Well, remember when James O'Keefe caught those Disrupt J20 guys, and there was a guy named Luke Kuhn.

00:29:44.000 Okay.

00:29:45.000 And he said, if you stand in our way, we will burn your house down.

00:29:48.000 We don't care if you're a cop, we don't care who you are, we will finish you. 1.00

00:29:52.000 And then they looked up Luke Kuhn and discovered that he'd been writing sort of fan fiction and essays about 10-year-old boys, sexualizing them and saying that young boys need a sexual mentor.

00:30:05.000 Just basically pedophilia crap.

00:30:07.000 And they met at Comet Pizza.

00:30:10.000 Now, was that as a joke?

00:30:11.000 Wow.

00:30:12.000 This isn't them meeting James O'Keeffe.

00:30:14.000 This is them meeting Project Veritas people who were spies.

00:30:18.000 So their contention was we knew that it was a James O'Keefe spy, and we chose Comet Pizza as a joke.

00:30:24.000 It's like the Chris Hansen stuff.

00:30:26.000 Oh, I just wanted to get caught when I came here for the lemonade and I still got it.

00:30:30.000 I came here for the pizza.

00:30:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:31.000 I don't want to molest it.

00:30:32.000 Well, here's this point.

00:30:33.000 I make this in my book, which comes out in May.

00:30:36.000 Kevin Spacey was a conspiracy.

00:30:38.000 Harvey Weinstein was a conspiracy.

00:30:40.000 Bill Cosby was a conspiracy.

00:30:41.000 Bill Cosby was a conspiracy.

00:30:42.000 Everyone knew.

00:30:43.000 We all knew.

00:30:44.000 When you have a subculture and everyone knows something and they don't tell, that's the definition of a conspiracy.

00:30:50.000 I think education is so bad in this country that people don't know the definitions of words.

00:30:55.000 They think chauvinist, when I call myself a Western chauvinist, they think it means male chauvinist because they've heard those two together, like bleeding profusely.

00:31:02.000 Right, right.

00:31:02.000 And I don't think they get that conspire just means a group of people conspiring.

00:31:08.000 You can conspire to put a birthday party together.

00:31:10.000 The point I make is the Constitutional Convention was a conspiracy.

00:31:13.000 They met forward the secrecy and engaged a coup.

00:31:16.000 Well, they say Alex Jones was kicked off of Twitter for conspiracy theories.

00:31:20.000 And of course they cite Newtown, which he said, or he had someone on the show who said that it was fake, and that led to the parents being harassed.

00:31:29.000 But that was six years ago.

00:31:30.000 Why'd you kick him off last week?

00:31:31.000 And they say, well, that's just one example.

00:31:33.000 He did conspiracy theories.

00:31:35.000 And you're supposed to go, oh, those are horrible things.

00:31:38.000 I go, what's the matter with a theory about conspiring?

00:31:41.000 Especially when you're most of his conspiracy theories, and it's ironic that we're both on male vitality right now if we talk about this.

00:31:48.000 It's not ironic.

00:31:49.000 It makes perfect sense.

00:31:51.000 I had a package at the studio today from InfoWars because I was advertising this stuff on this show, and I thought, I have to try it.

00:31:59.000 Oh, you stole it?

00:32:00.000 You said I could have one.

00:32:01.000 Oh, okay.

00:32:02.000 So I had some drops of super male vitality, which I think is just ginseng and a bunch of boner pills.

00:32:12.000 Yeah, it's horny goatweed, oats.

00:32:14.000 I looked them all up.

00:32:16.000 That doesn't mean it doesn't work.

00:32:18.000 Yeah.

00:32:18.000 So I'm not saying it's fraudulent.

00:32:20.000 And I do feel very vital.

00:32:22.000 I haven't stopped having an erection since using power speech.

00:32:26.000 So the effects of this are secondary.

00:32:28.000 It's really becoming a problem.

00:32:30.000 I'm going to need some coconuts to smash because this thing is not going down.

00:32:34.000 This beast is not being tamed.

00:32:35.000 No, but the theories that he, the conspiracy theories he has are always, or 95% are about the state.

00:32:43.000 In fact, even that horrible Newtown thing, which we don't advocate, terrible thing to say, was anti-FBI.

00:32:50.000 So isn't it bizarre that a group called InfoWars has this war on their information, and it's the state and big tech shutting them down?

00:33:01.000 Oh, here's the biggest conspiracy, and this is something that's undeniable.

00:33:05.000 A group of reporters got together on a secret email list to plot to have the same talking points in various publications.

00:33:15.000 This was exposed.

00:33:16.000 It was called Journal List.

00:33:17.000 Ezra Klein was the head of it, and now he's running Vox.

00:33:20.000 None of this is even remotely disputed.

00:33:23.000 And it's insane that this is the case where you have a cabal of journalists who are like, okay, what's going to be our talking points on how to frame this issue, that they're not all in prison.

00:33:33.000 Yeah, good point.

00:33:34.000 And they give themselves away too when they use strange words like collusion.

00:33:37.000 Collusion is not a word that you normally say.

00:33:41.000 And you just hear them go, collusion, Russian collusion, Russian collusion.

00:33:44.000 All these different journalists using this.

00:33:46.000 Or hacking the election.

00:33:47.000 That term does not, you can't hack paper ballots.

00:33:50.000 Right, right.

00:33:51.000 But I mean, they all said hacking.

00:33:52.000 And here's the other thing.

00:33:53.000 Let's suppose Putin really got into American electoral system.

00:33:56.000 For people, they're saying it as if that's synonymous that he was working with Trump.

00:34:00.000 Those are not synonymous concepts at all.

00:34:02.000 Right.

00:34:03.000 In fact, Hillary had been kind of friendly to Eastern Europe by helping us access their uranium.

00:34:12.000 Did you know she named her dog Che?

00:34:14.000 No.

00:34:15.000 When she was in college?

00:34:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:34:18.000 She also loves Rules for Radicals by Sololinsky, which I understand is dedicated to Lucifer.

00:34:24.000 Yes.

00:34:24.000 Although the copy I have doesn't have it at the beginning, I think.

00:34:26.000 Is that true?

00:34:27.000 Yeah, I couldn't find it.

00:34:28.000 It just has your name.

00:34:30.000 Gavin.

00:34:34.000 No, I think that the frustrating thing I find with all of this, too, is they get caught.

00:34:40.000 Like, remember when Google was caught saying, I was very depressed when Trump won.

00:34:46.000 She was crying.

00:34:47.000 Who?

00:34:48.000 The girl from Google.

00:34:49.000 The girl from the CEO or whatever?

00:34:50.000 She wasn't CEO, but yeah.

00:34:51.000 Remember?

00:34:51.000 She was literally crying.

00:34:53.000 As she remembered it.

00:34:54.000 It wasn't even the day after the election.

00:34:55.000 She was talking about the election.

00:34:56.000 She started crying.

00:34:58.000 And then, and people in the audience are saying, yeah, I have white privilege is evil, blah, blah, blah.

00:35:03.000 And then the Sergei, whatever the Israeli guy says, we're going to try to fix this. 0.59

00:35:08.000 But the thing I found frustrating about that video is there you are.

00:35:11.000 You got caught red-handed taking the Mona Lisa from the Louvre with your mask on.

00:35:18.000 And the Mona Lisa is still gone.

00:35:20.000 Like, there was no repercussions for that.

00:35:21.000 And it's almost like the king gets caught doing something.

00:35:24.000 Well, what are you going to do?

00:35:26.000 Get him to chop your head off?

00:35:28.000 You and I remember perfectly well in the 90s when Monica Kalinsky had that dress.

00:35:32.000 Can you put that away now?

00:35:34.000 It's turning into an infomercial.

00:35:35.000 When Monica Lewinsky had that dress. 0.99

00:35:37.000 So now it was absolutely true that Clinton was a perjurer.

00:35:39.000 And there was that two-week window where everyone's like, okay, now he's going to resign.

00:35:43.000 And then he goes, I'm not resigning.

00:35:44.000 And everyone's like, what happens now?

00:35:46.000 I remember that very distinctly.

00:35:48.000 It's the same thing here.

00:35:48.000 It's like, okay, people get caught.

00:35:50.000 You expect them to do the normal thing.

00:35:51.000 They're like, oh yeah, I got caught.

00:35:53.000 It's like, what do we do now?

00:35:55.000 Well, you have to go.

00:35:56.000 What are you going to do, bitch? 1.00

00:35:57.000 Yeah.

00:35:58.000 Nothing, I guess.

00:36:00.000 So there's this documentary I just saw.

00:36:01.000 It just came out called The Creepy Line.

00:36:03.000 I had the guys on my show.

00:36:04.000 And they talk about how Google does all sorts of things to put their finger on the scale in favor of the left.

00:36:11.000 and things that you can't actually trace.

00:36:14.000 That's one of a trench cover.

00:36:15.000 Have you seen how hot she is now? 1.00

00:36:17.000 No, she isn't.

00:36:18.000 Pick up a picture of Monica Lewinsky now.

00:36:20.000 She is three times hotter than that. 1.00

00:36:22.000 Well, that's, I mean, so she's a three? 0.98

00:36:24.000 No.

00:36:25.000 She is a 7.8.

00:36:26.000 Monica's hotter than average? 1.00

00:36:28.000 Oh, yeah.

00:36:29.000 I call her Benjamin Buttons, babe, because she's getting hotter with age. 1.00

00:36:32.000 Same with, what's her name on Fox News?

00:36:36.000 I'm drawing a blank, on the five.

00:36:38.000 Puerto Rican Irish girl.

00:36:39.000 Kimberly Gilfoyle.

00:36:40.000 Yeah, she's gone now.

00:36:41.000 Yeah.

00:36:41.000 She's dating Don Jr.

00:36:42.000 Yeah, she's gotten hotter with age. 0.99

00:36:44.000 Sorry, sorry, I sidetracked you there.

00:36:45.000 No, but that was just my whole point.

00:36:46.000 It's that like what happened, like, so this documentary shows that, like, let's suppose you have the first 10 Google results for an article by Hillary Clinton.

00:36:53.000 If they made it so they all come up with pro..

00:36:55.000 She's cute. 0.95

00:36:56.000 Better now.

00:36:57.000 Clearly better now.

00:36:58.000 That's not above average.

00:36:59.000 That is my type in a nutshell.

00:37:01.000 I would ravage her.

00:37:02.000 Really?

00:37:03.000 Yes.

00:37:04.000 I would lay her on the bed like a canvas, and then I would have my palette and just go to town.

00:37:09.000 Yeah, she likes, I just, yeah.

00:37:12.000 That's the vitality, Top.

00:37:14.000 That's the super big vitality.

00:37:16.000 I've totally forgot my train of thought on this.

00:37:19.000 Oh, my God.

00:37:20.000 Creepy line.

00:37:21.000 A creepy line.

00:37:22.000 So if they could very easily make it that if the first 10 results would be pro-Hillary articles, and if it's Trump, it would be anti-Trump articles, you would never know how they're engineering these results.

00:37:31.000 Right.

00:37:32.000 And I think with all these women in politics. 1.00

00:37:34.000 Well, there's one other example where they use the guy from the documentary goes, let's suppose Facebook sends out, hey, remember to vote today, right?

00:37:42.000 What if they just sent that out to only Democrats?

00:37:45.000 That would clearly have an effect in the election.

00:37:47.000 How would you ever be able to find that that did that that way?

00:37:50.000 Right.

00:37:50.000 You'd have no way of knowing.

00:37:51.000 So this documentary is all about, there's all these techniques they do that you could never trace.

00:37:55.000 Well, that brings me to the next thing I wanted to bring up.

00:37:58.000 I was initially kind of confused by how liberal big tech is.

00:38:05.000 Oh, yes.

00:38:06.000 I mean, you're an Israeli entrepreneur.

00:38:08.000 You built Google.

00:38:10.000 Israelis are tough. 0.98

00:38:12.000 They're kind of right-wing.

00:38:13.000 They're socialists, though.

00:38:14.000 Israel's a socialist country.

00:38:16.000 I guess so.

00:38:16.000 And then they come here and they're all left-wing.

00:38:19.000 And then when James O'Keefe does his exposés on Google and Twitter, first of all, it's all immigrants. 1.00

00:38:25.000 It'll be like the head of ethics at Twitter.

00:38:28.000 It's like, what we want to do now is try to get like really thick Indian accents.

00:38:32.000 Almost all of them have accents.

00:38:35.000 But they're all left-wing.

00:38:36.000 All nerds are left-wing.

00:38:37.000 So here's my theory.

00:38:38.000 Ready?

00:38:39.000 Yeah.

00:38:40.000 Nerds are geeks. 1.00

00:38:41.000 They're wimps.

00:38:42.000 They're betas.

00:38:43.000 And they see Trump and any kind of tough guy as a threat to them.

00:38:48.000 And it gives them PTSD.

00:38:49.000 It reminds them of their wedgies.

00:38:51.000 So they don't want the alphas in power or there's going to be mass wedging, atomic wedgies too, where the whole waistband comes off. 0.93

00:38:58.000 Now these immigrants come over with their whatever they're called, their H-1B visas. 0.98

00:39:03.000 And they go, Okay, buddy, I want to assimilate.

00:39:06.000 What's the culture here?

00:39:08.000 What are we doing?

00:39:09.000 And they go, Okay, here's the deal: We hate alphas, we hate blonde males with varsity jackets on because they wedgie does. 0.98

00:39:17.000 So you get in on that and you hate, we call them ass. 0.53

00:39:20.000 And you censor them, and they're like, no problem, I am a left-wing social justice warrior nerd, just like you, buddy.

00:39:27.000 I agree with you 1,000% in defiance of mathematical possibilities, because this is one of my big arguments with the alt-right.

00:39:34.000 Progressivism is a very American tradition that's been here for over 100 years.

00:39:38.000 It very comes from WASPs in the Northeast, straight line to the Puritans, and that's what happens. 0.98

00:39:43.000 The Jews did it too.

00:39:44.000 Jews came over, including people related to me, and they're like, okay, we're going to assimilate with wasp culture and adopt wasp mores. 0.99

00:39:55.000 No, there were two types, right?

00:39:56.000 There were the ones from Eastern Europe who came later who were like, oh my God, those are the low-class Jews. 1.00

00:40:00.000 That's why when you had World War II, a lot of these Jews who had been here for a long time were like, no, no, no, they're not like us. 1.00

00:40:05.000 They live in the ghetto.

00:40:06.000 Those are beneath us.

00:40:07.000 There's a big excuse of that.

00:40:08.000 And I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I've got to get this out.

00:40:09.000 I've heard that the whole Jews aren't allowed at the country club thing is a myth, and it was actually native Jews saying Eastern European Jews aren't allowed at Club.

00:40:18.000 Jews and WASPs didn't want to go to the same country club. 0.87

00:40:20.000 They got different culture.

00:40:21.000 At WASP country clubs, it's all booze and one sandwich.

00:40:24.000 At Jewish country clubs, it's all sandwiches and one bottle of booze. 0.97

00:40:28.000 It's like Joseph Kennedy, where he's like, I'm not going to make my own Irish Catholic culture.

00:40:33.000 I'm going to out WASP the WASPs. 1.00

00:40:35.000 We're going to have good-looking kids.

00:40:37.000 We're going to be at the Debutante.

00:40:38.000 And this was a big fight for him.

00:40:39.000 And he had to bribe people and kick his way in, going over to England and being ambassador and so on and so forth.

00:40:44.000 So yeah, this was all started.

00:40:47.000 Public education started because the Germans and the Scandinavians were coming over in the late 1800s, teaching their kids in German or Swedish or Norwegian.

00:40:56.000 And the WASP were like, no, no, no, no, we have to Christianize you, Catholics and Lutherans.

00:41:00.000 And we're going to have public schools so you learn English and you learn our ways.

00:41:04.000 And then that's where it all started.

00:41:06.000 And then we became too affluent.

00:41:08.000 And there's something about affluent.

00:41:09.000 And this is happening too much.

00:41:10.000 Where you become a social justice warrior, like Howard Stern and Jimmy Kimmel and all these rich people.

00:41:14.000 Is Howard Stern got a social justice warrior?

00:41:16.000 Pretty much, yeah.

00:41:17.000 He's not a fan of Trump.

00:41:19.000 He's kind of weird on guns.

00:41:22.000 He's really big on public education.

00:41:24.000 Wow.

00:41:25.000 Oh, and he threw Alex Jones under the bus. 0.52

00:41:28.000 He said, you don't yell fire in a crowded theater.

00:41:30.000 You don't yell anything in a crowded theater.

00:41:32.000 It's a property rights issue.

00:41:34.000 I'm serious.

00:41:35.000 I mean, the point is you can't yell.

00:41:37.000 You can't yell at the movie screen.

00:41:39.000 Believe me, when I hear people say that, it's like astrology.

00:41:42.000 I just walk out of the room.

00:41:43.000 How is that science?

00:41:46.000 The second someone asks if I'm a Scorpio, I'm just like, speaking of.

00:41:49.000 Because we can't fix you.

00:41:49.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:41:51.000 If you think that that is a law, by the way, saying fire in a credit theater, it's not even a law.

00:41:55.000 It's what one judge mentioned in his closing arguments.

00:41:59.000 And even then it's over.

00:42:00.000 Right.

00:42:01.000 And did you knowingly yell fire when there wasn't a fire, or was there a fire?

00:42:06.000 So you just wanted to hurt people?

00:42:06.000 Right.

00:42:08.000 Right, right, right.

00:42:10.000 That's the other thing, too, with this free speech crap, is they go, well, you couldn't be inciting violence.

00:42:15.000 And it's like, no, no, no, you're assumed my motive that I want people to go out and kill Muslims. 0.56

00:42:20.000 I'm just exposing grooming gangs when I'm talking about jihadism.

00:42:24.000 And if there's side effects to that, it's not my fault.

00:42:26.000 I'm pretty sure that our founding document, the Declaration of Independence, was about inciting violence.

00:42:32.000 So this country was quite literally founded on inciting violence.

00:42:35.000 So if they don't like it, they can go to their peaceful country, which doesn't exist.

00:42:39.000 Yeah.

00:42:40.000 Yeah, I've often been accused of inciting violence because I enjoy justified violence, but I don't, and I think...

00:42:51.000 So you're saying no and shut up.

00:42:52.000 And for them, that comes off as violence because they expect you to be submissive.

00:42:55.000 But I'm also saying I'm going to punch back when you punch me.

00:42:59.000 Yes.

00:42:59.000 So we don't start a fight, but we finish the fight.

00:43:01.000 And then to enjoy finishing a fight is seen as endorsing violence.

00:43:05.000 No, I think it feels good to beat up a pedophile.

00:43:07.000 I think it feels good to smack a guy around if he was beating his wife or his kid in public.

00:43:12.000 That's justified violence.

00:43:14.000 That's not advocating violence the way you think it is.

00:43:17.000 The way they accuse you of it is they think you just go around playing the knockout game.

00:43:21.000 No.

00:43:21.000 Right.

00:43:22.000 No, I think what they think is anything where they have to have consequences as a cause is bad.

00:43:30.000 So if you're saying there's times when you're going to have to have consequences, right away you're the bad guy.

00:43:34.000 Yeah, and I think it's because they don't like – Great point, great point.

00:43:42.000 But they also want to have the right to beat the crap out of you.

00:43:45.000 Like I was talking to this guy, Alan Froyer, at the New York Times, who was a typical New York Times writer, left his girlfriend for an 18-year-old, just a vile human being.

00:43:54.000 But he was saying to me about Proud Boys, he was saying, well, you know, if you were just to sit there and take it and take the beating, you could show, you know, it would almost be Christ-like.

00:44:04.000 And you could show people, like Martin Luther King, how violent these people are.

00:44:08.000 And I'm, what?

00:44:09.000 I'm going to go get stabbed?

00:44:11.000 I mean, they're not going to bonk you on the head with a plastic bat.

00:44:15.000 Go look at the Portland things that are accomplished from these guys.

00:44:17.000 It's knives.

00:44:18.000 I had a friend who's a leftist, and we were talking about Trayvon Martin and George Zerman.

00:44:22.000 And he said, just because someone is hitting you with your head against the curb doesn't mean you get to kill them.

00:44:28.000 And I go, literally, what is he supposed to do?

00:44:30.000 He goes, you take the beating.

00:44:32.000 And I'm like, okay.

00:44:33.000 Like, when someone says that, what are you supposed to say?

00:44:36.000 There's no response to that.

00:44:37.000 That's a strange communist mentality, too.

00:44:39.000 My grandfather was a communist, and he said, if someone wants to come in my house and they've got a gun and they're willing to die to have my property, then they can have my property.

00:44:49.000 And you go, no, they can't.

00:44:52.000 Then they can have all the property.

00:44:53.000 I mean, isn't that how we have Genghis Khan?

00:44:56.000 Some guy just says, that's mine, that's mine, that's mine, and people aren't strong enough to fight back.

00:45:00.000 It's not like that guy's robbing the house for bread.

00:45:03.000 Like he's starving, then you can imagine.

00:45:04.000 Okay, if he's not hungry, let him steal the bread.

00:45:06.000 No, he wants your TV and maybe rape your wife. 1.00

00:45:09.000 Okay, at the risk of being pedantic, I want to go back to this thing because Trayvon Martin is a great example.

00:45:16.000 It's a Wikipedia away to see that George Zimmerman was not hunting Trayvon.

00:45:21.000 It's a Wikipedia away to see that Mike Brown didn't have his hands up going, please, officer, I just want to go and get a scholarship.

00:45:28.000 All of those straw men are so easy to see, but we have, you know, we had Pharrell with the hood up at some VMAs thing, and it ends with everyone putting their hands up together.

00:45:41.000 How much do they believe that story?

00:45:43.000 I mean, how much do people believe in creationism?

00:45:45.000 If you're going to show them fossils, they're not going to matter, right?

00:45:48.000 I disagree.

00:45:50.000 I'll just say one thing.

00:45:50.000 If you start with a conclusion and then you reason your way backward, you're not going to be able to change that conclusion.

00:45:55.000 I've talked to creationists who admit that there is evolution.

00:45:59.000 There's a dodo bird who died because he couldn't run away from wolves or foxes or whatever.

00:46:03.000 People.

00:46:04.000 People.

00:46:05.000 But his contention is that God had it all planned and he set the first domino in motion.

00:46:11.000 Okay, intelligent design, if they call.

00:46:12.000 Yeah, okay.

00:46:12.000 Yeah.

00:46:13.000 And he said, there's going to be some dodo birds.

00:46:15.000 They're eventually going to get wiped out because they won't have the nice survival instincts.

00:46:18.000 There's going to be starlings on the other hand.

00:46:19.000 That's different.

00:46:20.000 Who will just dominate North America? 0.86

00:46:21.000 There's many species.

00:46:22.000 This is my plan.

00:46:22.000 There's many creationists who think species can't change.

00:46:25.000 Or become a virus, number comes bacteria, blah, blah, blah.

00:46:28.000 like there's infinite intermediate forms still on Earth today.

00:46:32.000 So there's no real...

00:46:36.000 But that's rare.

00:46:37.000 It's rare.

00:46:38.000 This liberalism, this crying their eyes out, is not rare.

00:46:41.000 It's half the country.

00:46:42.000 Because they have control of the educational system.

00:46:45.000 So this is why, what Lenin said, give me four years and I will have the children for the next generation. 0.66

00:46:51.000 So this is why public education has to be the next big target.

00:46:55.000 Because they, I believe, this is the line I always say and I'll say it again.

00:46:59.000 I believe conservatives are scared of government when they start taking their kids out of public school.

00:47:03.000 You are handing over your children to be raised by these people every day.

00:47:08.000 Sometimes you don't have a choice.

00:47:09.000 I get it.

00:47:09.000 You're poor.

00:47:10.000 But other times if you're- It's not so cheap.

00:47:12.000 It would cost me $150,000 a year to send all my kids to private school.

00:47:16.000 Sure.

00:47:21.000 You were lied to about that.

00:47:22.000 We didn't take our land from the Indians.

00:47:24.000 And slavery, we didn't start it.

00:47:25.000 We finished it.

00:47:26.000 Yeah, but wait till they're teenagers and they think dad's a jerk, which is inevitable.

00:47:30.000 Then it gets weird.

00:47:32.000 Yeah.

00:47:33.000 Well, then I get them back when they're 22 and say, After college?

00:47:38.000 You know what?

00:47:39.000 You're totally right about everything, and I don't think that I'm abusing my children by sending them to public school, but I am working hard to deprogram them.

00:47:46.000 But college is different, and I don't know what's going to happen then, because my wife wants to send them, and I do not. 0.54

00:47:53.000 And I talked to Michael Rechtenwald, the anti-SGW professor from NYU, and he said, he said, when I get students in first year, they're not that bad.

00:48:03.000 Yeah, oh, yeah, of course not.

00:48:04.000 He said, they're pretty open-minded.

00:48:06.000 They're definitely to the left of center.

00:48:08.000 They're fine.

00:48:08.000 But they're not dogmatic and they want to hear the right of center.

00:48:11.000 They want an education.

00:48:13.000 And then second year, it starts getting worse.

00:48:14.000 And then he said, by third and fourth years, they are 80% totally radical, pro-Mao, pro-Se Guevere, pro-genocide.

00:48:22.000 Yes, yes.

00:48:23.000 They've been turned to shock troops for the progressive militia.

00:48:27.000 Well, isn't that possible?

00:48:28.000 Isn't that why they accuse us of that?

00:48:33.000 Right, like they always talk about white genocide, or they say, you, you're a white supremacist and you advocate for a system that promotes genocide.

00:48:41.000 That's why I'm not debating with you, because genocide doesn't deserve a debate.

00:48:44.000 And you go, genocide?

00:48:46.000 Seven leaders have done it in recent history, and they're all socialists.

00:48:51.000 And normal people don't conjure up fantasies about genocide.

00:48:54.000 Their definition of genocide is to make people feel dismissed and invisible.

00:48:58.000 So they speak a different dialect of English than you or I do.

00:49:00.000 So once you realize they're not using words literally, it becomes a lot easier to understand what they're saying.

00:49:05.000 So when they say like, oh, there's attacks in democracy, they mean socialism.

00:49:08.000 They don't mean literal democracy.

00:49:10.000 Like, oh my God, the nationalist candidate won, this is an assault on democracy.

00:49:14.000 No, this is the definition of democracy in the literal sense.

00:49:17.000 But in your definition, it's an assault on democracy.

00:49:20.000 Oh, so we just got to get like a little translation book, a little babble fish in our ear.

00:49:24.000 Yeah, and there's not that many, since they use jargon and they just cycle through the same.

00:49:27.000 Intersectionality and all these other words.

00:49:29.000 Yeah, they cycle through the same clichés over and over.

00:49:31.000 They're not sophisticated, most of them.

00:49:33.000 Like most humans aren't sophisticated.

00:49:34.000 Once you have those tense sayings that they use figured out, it becomes a lot easier to engage with them.

00:49:39.000 All right, now we're almost out of time.

00:49:42.000 I did want to get a little bit in about your book.

00:49:44.000 When is it coming out?

00:49:45.000 God forbid they tell me, but apparently it's May.

00:49:45.000 May.

00:49:48.000 And what's it called?

00:49:49.000 The New Right.

00:49:49.000 And there's a chapter on you.

00:49:50.000 I do call you...

00:49:56.000 Oh, speaking of conspiracy theories, I had a secretive email tell me that you are a fraud and your book is going to call us all Nazis and stuff like that.

00:50:07.000 I'll forward it to you.

00:50:08.000 Yeah, okay.

00:50:09.000 I do not call you a Nazi at all.

00:50:11.000 In fact, I run interference for you pretty heavily.

00:50:13.000 Oh, thank you very much.

00:50:15.000 You'll see for yourself.

00:50:16.000 If I was to write your book.

00:50:18.000 Why would I be hanging out with you if I thought you were a Nazi?

00:50:20.000 I guess you're about to skip town when it comes out or something.

00:50:20.000 I don't know.

00:50:22.000 Yeah, I'm going to leave New York for Austria or South America.

00:50:27.000 South America.

00:50:28.000 If I was, and the way I describe the right to the left.

00:50:31.000 Wait, well, I'm just going to say one more sentence.

00:50:33.000 One of the things I stress very heavily is how demented it is to equate white nationalist, white supremacist, alt-right, and Nazi.

00:50:41.000 These are different concepts.

00:50:42.000 And if you're a journalist, it's your job to explain the differences.

00:50:44.000 And the point I make is a lot more white nationalists and Klans people fought the Nazis than urban feminists. 1.00

00:50:51.000 Yeah.

00:50:52.000 Good point.

00:50:52.000 I see the right...

00:50:59.000 So we're talking about reality here.

00:51:00.000 So here's the center.

00:51:02.000 Here's the alt-right, which has changed, by the way, in the past few years.

00:51:05.000 Alt-right used to be Ann Coulter.

00:51:07.000 Now it's Richard Spencer.

00:51:09.000 Sure.

00:51:09.000 So I would say there's libertarian, a big swath of this is what I call the new right.

00:51:14.000 Lauren Southern, Stefan Molyneux, Jordan Peterson, Well, not anymore.

00:51:20.000 Even sort of Dave Rubin, Sargon of Akkad, the classical liberals are pretty new right.

00:51:25.000 Libertarians would be in there.

00:51:26.000 Some.

00:51:27.000 Some libertarians.

00:51:29.000 But then when we go super far to the right...

00:51:32.000 We'd have neocons, by the way, over here.

00:51:33.000 Neocons seem more similar than... 0.98

00:51:37.000 They're lefties.

00:51:38.000 But there's a sliver over here, the alt-right.

00:51:42.000 And they have very little in common with the rest of us, and they have something in common.

00:51:48.000 What they have in common is their perspective of what progressivism is.

00:51:51.000 So they have that same analysis of the problem, but their solution is nothing in common with, at least what I advocate.

00:51:57.000 I think they have a lot more.

00:51:58.000 I always call the political spectrum a Donut, and I think the alt-right has more in common with the alt-left.

00:52:03.000 Anti-Semitism, racial identity politics, atheism.

00:52:07.000 Sure.

00:52:08.000 They don't seem to be having kids, and they're pretty socialist.

00:52:11.000 Well, Richard Spencer says he's a socialist.

00:52:13.000 Oh, really?

00:52:14.000 That's my understanding.

00:52:15.000 I could be wrong.

00:52:16.000 Well, he definitely likes, I think, I shouldn't say definitely, but I understand that he likes the sort of Northern European welfare state.

00:52:23.000 Homogeneity, welfare state, you know, paternity levels. 0.67

00:52:26.000 I think some of them, one of their biggest arguments is welfare doesn't work when you have a mixed country.

00:52:32.000 Whereas if you have a country that's based on one people, you could have the welfare state and have it work effectively. 0.77

00:52:36.000 So is that what your book says?

00:52:38.000 I don't get it.

00:52:40.000 About this is what the right is?

00:52:42.000 I can give you the definition.

00:52:43.000 Is the alt-right a sliver or is the alt-right big?

00:52:45.000 So the new right is...

00:52:48.000 Sure.

00:52:51.000 So exactly.

00:52:52.000 So I'm going to paraphrase it.

00:52:54.000 So the new right is a loosely collected group of individuals united by their position to progressivism, which they regard as a thinly disguised fundamentalist faith dedicated to globalist hegemony and egalitarian values.

00:53:09.000 And part of this is the alt-right, which regards race, not racism, race, as the most or an extremely important issue.

00:53:19.000 So if you think race is the most important issue, that would make you alt-right.

00:53:23.000 I don't think race is the most important issue at all.

00:53:25.000 I know you don't, so that would be a big difference.

00:53:29.000 Yeah, but the left, so I'm saying new right here, sliver here.

00:53:33.000 The left takes that sliver and just goes even up past center and over into the left.

00:53:40.000 It's useful for them.

00:53:41.000 Because if you paint their whole population as Klansmen, you don't have to waste time talking about it.

00:53:45.000 Do they really believe that?

00:53:46.000 Do they believe that Donald Trump is a white supremacist?

00:53:50.000 I don't think it matters to you.

00:53:51.000 These Jewish liberals who hate him and call him a Nazi, 100% of his adult children who are old enough to have sex are having sex with a Jewish person.

00:53:59.000 That's a myth about Don Jr.

00:54:01.000 Is it?

00:54:02.000 Yeah, I looked it up.

00:54:03.000 So Eric married a Jewish girl and Ivanka converted, of course.

00:54:08.000 But Don Jr.'s ex-wife was not actually Jewish.

00:54:10.000 Ah, okay.

00:54:11.000 It's a two out of three.

00:54:12.000 We don't know about Tiffany.

00:54:13.000 What's going on with her?

00:54:13.000 The forgotten Trump.

00:54:15.000 I think she's with a Jew. 0.99

00:54:16.000 Is she?

00:54:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:54:17.000 They get around.

00:54:18.000 Well, when you're rich, you tend to be around like a Jewish people. 1.00

00:54:20.000 I'm sorry.

00:54:21.000 Here's the other thing.

00:54:21.000 If you're a New York real estate mogul, you basically are Jewish.

00:54:26.000 Yeah.

00:54:26.000 Culturally.

00:54:27.000 Especially him.

00:54:28.000 He's not coming from this old money.

00:54:30.000 Well, that might be the frustrating thing about all this, because you hear in white places like Portland, they call us New Yorkers homophobic, blah, blah, blah.

00:54:37.000 And you go, if I was anti-Semitic and homophobic and racist in New York City, I'd be exhausted.

00:54:45.000 Like, what are you going to go fag bashing in the West Village?

00:54:47.000 You'd be like those soldiers whose arms are getting tired.

00:54:50.000 Right.

00:54:52.000 And you'd be dead in a minute.

00:54:54.000 You can't, like even the skinheads in New York City in the 80s, they had blacks in their gang and gays. 0.96

00:55:01.000 You just can't not.

00:55:02.000 That's New York City.

00:55:04.000 Yeah, that's why I'm here.

00:55:06.000 Because you're a skinhead?

00:55:07.000 No, because I love that there's so many different types of people and that you can, it's fun for me.

00:55:12.000 It's not fun for everybody else, but that's fun for them.

00:55:14.000 I think I'm here because I love hate and I love conflict and I love being uncomfortable and yelling at people.

00:55:21.000 I mean, like just, it's almost like a term of endearment in New York to go, get out of here, what are you doing?

00:55:28.000 You know what my trick is?

00:55:29.000 What?

00:55:30.000 So the Cretans start using youth to do things in the subway.

00:55:34.000 So now they started sitting on the subway stairs, even though there's benches, you know, and totally blocking everyone's way.

00:55:39.000 So a lot of times I'll be back from the supermarket with like a shopping bag in each hand, and I'll accidentally just hit them both in the head as I'm walking past.

00:55:47.000 You should be sitting here.

00:55:48.000 I see that as endearing.

00:55:49.000 I see that as kind.

00:55:51.000 Now you know.

00:55:51.000 It is kind.

00:55:54.000 You were told, you didn't learn it that way.

00:55:56.000 You're going to learn it this way.

00:55:57.000 I'm helping you learn.

00:55:58.000 I'm a teacher.

00:55:58.000 Yeah.

00:55:59.000 I'm basically Gandhi.

00:56:01.000 Mike, thanks for coming.

00:56:02.000 Thank you so much.

00:56:02.000 We went over it, but it was worth it.

00:56:04.000 Okay, great.

00:56:04.000 And I had a wonderful time.

00:56:05.000 We're doing this.

00:56:06.000 And then it's lovely.

00:56:06.000 Okay.

00:56:07.000 And then at the end, we always do a long.

00:56:12.000 Just like Laurie Ingram. 0.99

00:56:16.000 Done.

00:56:17.000 Good stuff.

00:56:18.000 Thank you.

00:56:18.000 Oh, get off my lawn.

00:56:20.000 And I like you more as a friend.

00:56:21.000 Than a friend.

00:56:22.000 No, I did my version.

Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - October 08, 2018

Ep 194 | Columbus Day | Get Off My Lawn

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript