Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - November 29, 2018


Ep 213 | Trump Card | Get Off My Lawn


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48 minutes

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7,649

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660

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Misogyny

37

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This week, Ryan and Bailey talk about a song about a woman named Phoebe Cates, and why they think she's the most attractive woman in the world. They also talk about why they don't like Victoria's Secret models.

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00:00:54.000 She's gotta be somebody spong tonight. 1.00
00:00:59.000 It's the only night.
00:01:01.000 Isn't that weird that some singer would just, like the Bee Gees, would all of a sudden decide, I'm gonna start going, ah, this is how I sing.
00:01:09.000 Or that, remember that band, I'm going down the country, see what I can find.
00:01:14.000 Oh, yeah.
00:01:15.000 Like, what a weird choice to make.
00:01:17.000 I don't know when that started, but, you know, the Beach Boys did it, and then also Wayne Newton.
00:01:21.000 I thought he was a female.
00:01:25.000 Hey, guys, they show up at band practice.
00:01:27.000 Hey, guys, from now on, I'm going to be like, hey, what's going on, guys?
00:01:32.000 And they go, I'd rather you didn't do that, Art.
00:01:37.000 Yeah.
00:01:40.000 So that was Jackson Brown, and that song was in Fast Times at Ridgemont High, starring Phoebe Cates.
00:01:48.000 We all know the famous scene where she comes out of the pool and she reveals her breasts to the world.
00:01:52.000 And I was talking about this with Ryan recently.
00:01:54.000 There's in the subway when we get off at Times Square, there's a big, huge billboard campaign now of Victoria's secret models.
00:02:06.000 And they're too beautiful to be attractive.
00:02:09.000 And that's what I was saying in the other show, and Ryan disappointed me by not pulling up the faces.
00:02:13.000 But like, Lonnie Anderson was the main secretary at WKRP.
00:02:19.000 She was too, like, there's a level of beauty where you're handsome, and, you know, the strong cowcatcher chin and stuff, and you just go, meh, you're a handsome guy.
00:02:29.000 Did you say WPRK?
00:02:31.000 No, I don't think so.
00:02:32.000 Maybe I did.
00:02:32.000 I think you did.
00:02:33.000 WKRP.
00:02:35.000 But Bailey, I assume you're pulling up these pictures now.
00:02:39.000 What are you doing?
00:02:40.000 Yeah.
00:02:41.000 Yeah, there we go.
00:02:41.000 Bailey.
00:02:42.000 That's perfect.
00:02:43.000 So Lonnie Anderson is the blonde, and she's just like, she's actually kind of pretty cute.
00:02:49.000 Much cuter than the Victoria's Secret models.
00:02:51.000 But it's too much.
00:02:53.000 Like, that's too much woman. 1.00
00:02:54.000 You want someone you can hang around with a little more.
00:02:57.000 And that's when we get to Bailey.
00:02:58.000 Look at Bailey there with the glasses and the nice blouse and the sort of corduroy overalls. 0.93
00:03:05.000 That's the kind of woman we like. 1.00
00:03:06.000 We like a bit of cuteness, you know?
00:03:08.000 We don't want like, hello, I'm a beautiful woman.
00:03:12.000 Like find one of the Victoria's Secret gals. 0.99
00:03:14.000 They all look exactly the same, too.
00:03:16.000 They're all just this perfect like, you said handsome, basically.
00:03:25.000 And some of them you look at them and you think, if you would remove those false eyelashes and have a short hairdo and put a suit on, you'd be a dashing man like Brad Pitt.
00:03:25.000 Handsome.
00:03:34.000 This one's not fair, but that Asian girl was pretty spectacular. 0.98
00:03:38.000 But a couple of handsome ones coming up.
00:03:40.000 Yeah, that's exactly what that is.
00:03:42.000 That's exactly what I'm talking about.
00:03:45.000 It looks like it'll break if you touch it too much.
00:03:47.000 Yeah.
00:03:47.000 Like too fragile.
00:03:48.000 It's like a Faberge egg.
00:03:50.000 Yeah.
00:03:51.000 Wow, you really zoomed in on yourself for this particular episode.
00:03:56.000 Okay, now show Phoebe Cates in Fast Times and Ridgemont High. 1.00
00:04:02.000 Oh, you have to go find it again?
00:04:04.000 This is, I think, the most attractive woman in the world.
00:04:08.000 It's pretty bonkers.
00:04:11.000 If there's a guy in the world who doesn't find Phoebe Cates in Fast Times and Ridgemont High attractive, I would like to study him in a lab.
00:04:20.000 I would be like Darwin in the Galapagos Islands finding a new species.
00:04:25.000 And you see what she's got there.
00:04:27.000 She's got some cuteness, you know?
00:04:29.000 It's not all dashing.
00:04:30.000 We don't like dashing women. 1.00
00:04:33.000 She still looks pretty good, and she's old as can be.
00:04:38.000 So, welcome to the show.
00:04:40.000 I'm reading this book, Permanently Suspended, Anthony Coomi's Life Story.
00:04:45.000 He clearly dictated it into a microphone.
00:04:48.000 You can just tell.
00:04:49.000 But it's good.
00:04:50.000 It's very conversational.
00:04:51.000 And I'm going to talk to him about it.
00:04:52.000 We have him on the show at the end of the show.
00:04:54.000 But I find it, you don't have to like or care about Anthony Coomi.
00:04:58.000 And this is Opian Anthony, the shock shock guy.
00:05:00.000 You don't have to care about him to enjoy this book.
00:05:02.000 But it's just interesting watching the evolution of free speech.
00:05:04.000 He goes all the way back to the 80s, and you see a working-class guy who obviously has a lot of talent and is funny, get into radio, and then you see the various reactions you get.
00:05:15.000 And what you really notice is it goes from the FCC being the bad guys in the 90s, 80s, and 90s to the mob.
00:05:22.000 And the mob is much harder to deal with than the government.
00:05:25.000 And that's the sort of takeaway from this book is that fighting social justice warriors is worse than fighting the government because the government at least has some standards.
00:05:35.000 The mob is hysterical.
00:05:39.000 Also on the front page of the New York Post today, we got Trump card.
00:05:42.000 The president told in an exclusive to the New York Post that if the Dems come after him, he has some devastating docks he's going to release.
00:05:51.000 He goes, I punch back.
00:05:54.000 I don't like that.
00:05:56.000 Don't save it, dude.
00:05:58.000 If you have criminal papers, get them out there.
00:06:01.000 If you see someone murder someone, you don't say, hey, if that guy ever crosses me, I got this whole videotape on my phone.
00:06:09.000 I got this whole video of him murdering someone.
00:06:11.000 No, go to the police right away.
00:06:12.000 You just saw a murder.
00:06:14.000 One other story I wanted to briefly mention is this.
00:06:17.000 Okay, let me just read it first without showing you the picture.
00:06:20.000 I three wed.
00:06:22.000 Affairs aren't always a marriage killer.
00:06:24.000 Of course, this is written by women. 0.99
00:06:26.000 Affairs aren't always a marriage killer, even for supposedly monogamous Couples.
00:06:30.000 On the contrary, these spouses find that strain can actually strengthen a relationship.
00:06:36.000 And you go, hmm, infidelity is good for a marriage?
00:06:41.000 Who are you talking about?
00:06:43.000 Oh, lesbians who have been married for a year. 0.99
00:06:47.000 That's not really what you were saying with the headline.
00:06:50.000 You have to kind of mention who you're talking about.
00:06:52.000 Lesbians married for a year have noticed that having affairs and bringing tons of women over doesn't hurt their marriage. 1.00
00:06:58.000 Yeah, because you're not really married.
00:07:01.000 I mean, come on.
00:07:02.000 The picture, if you were just to read that without the picture, you'd go, oh, there's some, you know, Midwestern couple with three kids who go and have orgies every week or have mistresses, and it turns out great for everybody.
00:07:16.000 No.
00:07:17.000 What I really see when I read that is two lesbians regret getting married and decide not to follow the rules. 0.99
00:07:25.000 I mean, you take the kids and the monogamy out of it.
00:07:28.000 Aren't you just dating?
00:07:29.000 What's left?
00:07:30.000 Well, when one of them is sick, the other can visit her on her hospital bed.
00:07:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:36.000 Have you noticed the liberals always have like one example to shatter everything else?
00:07:40.000 Like you'll go, I'm against abortion.
00:07:42.000 Oh, yeah, what if she was raped by her father?
00:07:45.000 Should she have to keep that kid? 1.00
00:07:48.000 Or what if it would kill her to have the kid?
00:07:50.000 Should she die to have the kid? 0.77
00:07:51.000 And you go, is that really happening?
00:07:54.000 How many women are pregnant from their father? 1.00
00:07:57.000 Exceptions exist.
00:07:58.000 Yes.
00:07:59.000 Yeah, they don't obliterate a rule.
00:08:01.000 Okay, just because you found one crazy example that you made up that's hypothetical doesn't mean you get to wipe out tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of unborn children.
00:08:10.000 It's funny that same-sex couples, they fight for marriage and then the first thing they do is they change it to something that's not marriage. 0.87
00:08:17.000 Yeah, I thought you wanted to get married.
00:08:18.000 Why don't you just make something new?
00:08:21.000 Well, I like the part where I can visit my spouse on a hospital bed.
00:08:25.000 All right.
00:08:26.000 Let me know if that ever happens.
00:08:29.000 But wait a minute.
00:08:30.000 I've been to a million hospitals.
00:08:32.000 You can visit anyone you want.
00:08:34.000 Like, when do they go...
00:08:37.000 Otherwise, no way, Jose.
00:08:39.000 I'm his best friend.
00:08:40.000 He's dying?
00:08:41.000 Sorry, sir.
00:08:42.000 Straight out.
00:08:43.000 We're in a no-friend zone.
00:08:46.000 We don't allow friends in the hospital.
00:08:49.000 Now, this picture that we had on the show the other day, the immigrant crossing, I wanted to have a closer look at it because it won't die.
00:08:56.000 It's a meme now.
00:08:57.000 Do you have some of the memes?
00:08:58.000 They're actually pretty funny.
00:09:00.000 Should I show the actual picture for you?
00:09:02.000 No, we'll get to the actual picture after.
00:09:04.000 I just have to justify doing an old story, and I think the fact that it's a meme helps bring us in to that.
00:09:09.000 I've got kind of harsh shadows here.
00:09:12.000 This is the best one ever in the world.
00:09:22.000 She's in such a hurry to get him up there.
00:09:24.000 This is exactly what is going on.
00:09:28.000 In fact, I saw one of the groups that was involved was called like Voto Mexico Hispanic or something.
00:09:34.000 Like they have the word vote in the name of their nonprofit that's working to get people over the border.
00:09:41.000 That was a good attack on Joe Biden.
00:09:44.000 It's molesting everyone.
00:09:45.000 What else you got?
00:09:48.000 That's the perfect attack on Justin Trudeau.
00:09:51.000 You got that picture of him having a photograph taken of himself while he signs a photo of himself, right?
00:09:56.000 Yeah.
00:09:56.000 He's the best.
00:09:57.000 Dora?
00:09:59.000 Keep going.
00:10:00.000 I mean, we're never going to beat the polling station.
00:10:02.000 Okay, so.
00:10:03.000 That's pretty good.
00:10:04.000 I think that this picture is a perfect example of the incuriosity we have in this country.
00:10:11.000 That's a good one.
00:10:12.000 The in-curiosity we have in that picture.
00:10:14.000 The left wanted, and I talked about this weeks and weeks ago, the left wanted children in peril at the border.
00:10:22.000 Ideally, there'd be a kid face down in the dirt, and there'd be an ICE agent standing above them looking down.
00:10:28.000 They wanted one of those pictures, and they finally got their picture.
00:10:31.000 And they were so quick to pounce on it that their eyes never left those four people.
00:10:38.000 Is it four?
00:10:39.000 Why doesn't she have any shoes on, by the way? 1.00
00:10:42.000 Why did you bring a toddler to the most dangerous place in the country?
00:10:47.000 Or pants.
00:10:49.000 She has no pants? 1.00
00:10:50.000 They have just diapers on.
00:10:52.000 I saw a picture of her carrying the tear gas canister.
00:10:54.000 She's done tons of publicity ever since. 1.00
00:10:57.000 Okay, so now let's click on the picture, shall we?
00:10:59.000 Because we are not incurious.
00:11:02.000 And let's just start looking around.
00:11:04.000 Like, go deep behind her.
00:11:05.000 Let's zoom in.
00:11:08.000 Can you do that?
00:11:08.000 Do you have the technology?
00:11:13.000 It makes a reversing sound when you do it.
00:11:15.000 So that guy's running, so that looks somewhat perilous, if that's a word, up on the left.
00:11:21.000 But now let's start to stray to the right a little bit.
00:11:24.000 And you see...
00:11:27.000 Oh, can you see...
00:11:34.000 Can you move your mouse there or something?
00:11:37.000 I see someone holding their camera horizontally like this.
00:11:43.000 This is someone taking a selfie at this horrible, hellish place where there's two.
00:11:50.000 Can you see the guy I'm talking about?
00:11:52.000 There's also something below.
00:11:53.000 Is that someone in a wheelchair?
00:11:55.000 There seems to be a bunch, like a table or some stuff there.
00:11:59.000 A stroller?
00:12:00.000 And then now go the other way, like the direction she's running in.
00:12:04.000 And you see a lot of people just like, there's a guy with a tripod.
00:12:08.000 Look at that.
00:12:09.000 Just setting up the tripod in a war zone, as one does.
00:12:13.000 And then there's this guy walking around, but then look at that guy in the far right.
00:12:17.000 He's got a green backpack on.
00:12:17.000 You see him?
00:12:19.000 And he's just like walking to school.
00:12:23.000 Now, I've seen a lot of pictures of war zones, and they don't have guys setting up tripods, and they don't have a dude with a green backpack going on a stroll, and they don't have someone taking a selfie with a $500 phone.
00:12:36.000 You just, you got your image, and you just ran with it.
00:12:38.000 And boy, have they ran with it.
00:12:40.000 Like, Twitter these days, I go back on it sometimes.
00:12:43.000 It's just poison.
00:12:47.000 It's just celebrities and comedians screaming at the top of their thumbs about Trump and Nazis and I don't want to live in this America and having panic attacks And Trump, Trump, Trump, and getting people fired and just this disdain and vitriol.
00:13:07.000 It's like, you remember that we did the turkey episode, and they said, you know, you need a few male turkeys to protect, to just calm everyone.
00:13:16.000 And what Twitter's done is it's gotten rid of me and Milo and all the male turkeys, and now you just have female turkeys running around, and they are just going absolutely ballistic. 0.90
00:13:27.000 By the way, I mean, you don't, it's not like a camera just takes one picture and like, oh man, we just got the picture with the tear gas canister that far away.
00:13:35.000 Like, that's the closest image there.
00:13:38.000 That's the closest that tear gas got to those people.
00:13:40.000 And it's not very close.
00:13:42.000 No.
00:13:44.000 She's fine.
00:13:46.000 She's fine.
00:13:47.000 Be better.
00:13:50.000 I wanted to send you, I read an article today.
00:13:53.000 Where did I get it from?
00:13:58.000 It was in the Washington Post, and she basically said that, here it is.
00:14:03.000 I'll text it to you.
00:14:05.000 Or I'll email it to you.
00:14:06.000 They said, what's going on with Trump is he feeds on our insecurity.
00:14:13.000 You see, we're all insecure males, and he preys on that and says, no, you're a real man.
00:14:20.000 Don't let the chicks get you down, dude. 1.00
00:14:20.000 You're a man. 1.00
00:14:22.000 And you go, yeah.
00:14:23.000 Like, she portrays America as these sort of whimpering, incel, obese neckbeards that are just going, no one likes me.
00:14:32.000 And then they look at Trump and he goes, people do like you.
00:14:34.000 You're a man.
00:14:35.000 And he goes, yeah, I'm a man.
00:14:38.000 And of course, it's written by a woman who needed a man to hold her hand throughout the research.
00:14:43.000 But they did things like they looked up ads for performance enhancers and stuff like that.
00:14:51.000 And then they tied it to certain areas.
00:14:53.000 And they decided, with the most junk science you've ever seen, that Donald Trump appeals to men secretly insecure about their manhood.
00:15:02.000 Go down a bit?
00:15:04.000 And of course, this was written by Sarah DeMazio, but she needed a guy named Eric Knowles to hold her hand through it.
00:15:12.000 But from boasting about the size of his penis on national television to releasing records of his high testosterone levels, President Trump's rhetoric and behavior exude machismo.
00:15:22.000 His behavior, by the way, he sends out stuff like that because you won't shut up about his small penis and his small hands and how he's gay for Putin. 0.50
00:15:30.000 You started it all.
00:15:32.000 They make an allegation, then the guy defends himself, and then they say, God, he's so insecure.
00:15:40.000 And the depiction of these weak men, fragile masculinity.
00:15:46.000 Look, this is the actual deal, Sarah.
00:15:49.000 Men are sitting at home getting told they're evil, they're toxic, man spreading, making it illegal to not use pronouns.
00:15:56.000 And normal dads are just going, this is getting ridiculous.
00:16:00.000 Let's just, we tried Obama, they didn't shut up, let's just elect Trump and say no more of this SJW crap, it's annoying.
00:16:07.000 And then they go, ooh, you're so fragile.
00:16:10.000 You're so, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:16:13.000 When a kid gets a timeout for swearing or something, he doesn't go to his dad, ooh, now you have to give me a timeout because you're so scared of swear words.
00:16:22.000 No, you're being a bad boy is why you're getting a timeout.
00:16:25.000 It's not an evidence of my fragility.
00:16:29.000 And make up your mind, by the way, is this too, is America full of these evil, machismo, rednecks, racist white men, or is it a bunch of wimpy neckbeards? 0.84
00:16:39.000 You can't get your story straight.
00:16:40.000 You just know you hate us.
00:16:43.000 We're not doing good for time, are we?
00:16:45.000 15?
00:16:46.000 We've got four minutes left?
00:16:48.000 Okay.
00:16:49.000 I'm not getting to bite out a lot.
00:16:52.000 Okay, one thing I do have to squeeze in here.
00:16:55.000 I was talking to Ezra Levant last night, and I was talking about what we talked about on the other show, where the government is paying the media $600 million for favorable stories, which is the most Venezuelan thing Canada has ever done.
00:17:09.000 And the hilarious thing about it is every time you read articles about it, it's very fair and cool grant going to newspapers who could do with some freedom of press and free speech.
00:17:20.000 You go, wow, you're a good little pet, aren't you?
00:17:24.000 But then it hit me last night.
00:17:25.000 I go, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:17:27.000 Canada's tiny.
00:17:28.000 $600 million?
00:17:29.000 What are they giving everyone a million dollars?
00:17:32.000 And Ezra goes, don't joke.
00:17:34.000 There's only about 12,000 media workers in the whole country.
00:17:38.000 Now, $1.5 billion went for the CBC.
00:17:41.000 $600 million there.
00:17:42.000 That's $2.1 billion.
00:17:44.000 Plus, the CBC wants another $400 million.
00:17:46.000 They'll probably get it.
00:17:47.000 So now we're up to $2.5 billion with only 12,000 people to spread it around.
00:17:52.000 That's $200,000 each for everyone, like producers, editors, everyone in Canada, in media, is up for $200,000.
00:18:04.000 Now, you know for a fact, Rebel and Ezra and anyone conservative isn't going to get a lick of that dough.
00:18:11.000 But Justin Trudeau, see, I caught you, Justin, is spending $200,000.
00:18:16.000 Okay, and last thing, we'll just squeeze in here before we talk to Anthony.
00:18:21.000 Stephen Colbert, who annoys the crap out of me, like he's the same politics as every talk show host.
00:18:26.000 And you know how I always bitch about the Sackler family and Purdue Pharmaceuticals and why doesn't anyone go after Big Pharma?
00:18:33.000 Finally, a lefty goes after Purdue.
00:18:36.000 Finally, someone is talking about something real in this country and not Trump and Nazis.
00:18:41.000 This is the same Stephen Colbert who's Zieg Heiled talking about Trump.
00:18:45.000 Yeah.
00:18:46.000 And it's also a big platform too.
00:18:49.000 I'm sure they have sponsors that are pharmaceutical companies.
00:18:51.000 So it's pretty brave, right?
00:18:52.000 That is, it is brave because I don't know so much about what network he's on, but you watch older things like Fox and every single commercial is Zootaflex, ask your doctor about pharmaceutical Zapotecs.
00:19:05.000 Purdue, these people, these pharma people, Purdue, they deny the charges, but here's the thing.
00:19:13.000 Despite telling Congress that they didn't know about Oxie's potential for abuse until 2000, prosecutors have found that in over 100 notes recording their visits to doctors in the late 90s, the company's sales representatives used the words street value, crush, or Snort.
00:19:31.000 No, that's what happens when the head of sales is El Chapo.
00:19:35.000 Anyway, so they kept it funny, but he covered everything.
00:19:38.000 He covered the Sackler family.
00:19:40.000 He showed pictures of them.
00:19:41.000 He mentioned Richard Sackler.
00:19:43.000 He mentioned that they said, oh, we're only doing some of them.
00:19:46.000 Most of them are generics.
00:19:47.000 And then we discovered that they also make the generics.
00:19:49.000 And he even pretended he broke the story.
00:19:52.000 I've been talking about this for weeks.
00:19:53.000 Everyone is knowing about this.
00:19:55.000 I think New York Mag also did a really good expose.
00:19:58.000 But he also talks about how they are patenting the cure, the opioid blocker.
00:20:02.000 So just like a Superman movie, the evil villain gets the world addicted to a deadly drug that kills 115 Americans a day, and then Lex Luthor sells the cure.
00:20:14.000 Anyway, that's all the news we can squeeze out because I want to talk in depth about free speech with my old boss, Anthony Cumi.
00:20:21.000 I'm sure it'll be a totally unbiased interview where I'm not, where I'm really hitting Anthony with the tough questions.
00:20:29.000 Anthony, are you there, sir?
00:20:31.000 Yes, Gavin.
00:20:32.000 How are you?
00:20:33.000 I'm wonderful.
00:20:34.000 I'm reading this incredible book, Permanently Suspended.
00:20:38.000 It's very convers.
00:20:40.000 Go ahead, sorry?
00:20:41.000 That's me.
00:20:44.000 It's very conversational, and I know you're not the unlaziest person on earth, and I'm getting the feeling when I'm reading it that a lot of this was just dictated, and then some poor bastard had to sit there and get all the grammar right.
00:20:59.000 Gavin, you are like Columbo.
00:21:03.000 You figured it out.
00:21:08.000 I'm not really the guy that will sit there and take pen to paper or sit behind a, what do they call it, a typewriter.
00:21:16.000 Yeah.
00:21:17.000 Well, it ends up being a very easy read because it's so conversational.
00:21:21.000 And people who aren't familiar with your story in the Open Anthony years, I think one of the most interesting things about this whole book is this concept of a major corporation like Sirius paying two guys not to do radio.
00:21:37.000 I've never heard of anything like that before.
00:21:40.000 Yeah, well, that was CBS Radio.
00:21:45.000 Oh, XM.
00:21:46.000 Yes, CBS Radio paid us millions of dollars to not work for two years.
00:21:54.000 Yeah, they were petrified that Clear Channel, another company, was going to hire us to do mornings and go against Howard Stern, who CBS had, obviously.
00:22:04.000 And even if we didn't beat Howard, if we just took enough listeners away where he wasn't number one anymore, they'd have lost millions of dollars.
00:22:12.000 So they said, let's pay them, keep them under contract, and keep them off of anyone's radio for two years.
00:22:20.000 So it was an amazing two years of just abusing myself and gambling and buying radio control helicopters and just playing with millions of dollars.
00:22:35.000 And I'm reading it and wondering, how often does this happen?
00:22:39.000 I think it happens a lot.
00:22:42.000 Once you're under contract, they own you and they can do whatever they want.
00:22:47.000 And if they deem you dangerous to be on a competition's airwaves, they will sit you out.
00:22:54.000 And it's pretty, it's great when you look at it and you tell anybody and they're like, oh my God, I would take that deal in a second.
00:23:02.000 It's fantastic.
00:23:03.000 And it was.
00:23:04.000 But there's that thing that you're going to lose your fans.
00:23:09.000 Like for two years in radio, you're gone.
00:23:13.000 You're literally gone.
00:23:14.000 And there was no social media back then.
00:23:16.000 No way to get to your fans.
00:23:19.000 So after two years, you could absolutely be out of the game.
00:23:23.000 That's interesting.
00:23:24.000 And, you know, I was sort of lamenting those days when I was reading this.
00:23:28.000 And you talk about iHeartRadio and all these different companies.
00:23:32.000 They all seem to be billions of dollars in debt now.
00:23:35.000 And as you say towards the end of the book, there's no one on FMRA.
00:23:38.000 I'm just talking anymore.
00:23:40.000 I think we have lost free speech in this country, everywhere.
00:23:45.000 Oh, my God, yes.
00:23:48.000 Everything from, yeah, radio, entertainment, stand-up comedy.
00:23:54.000 Dude, bars.
00:23:56.000 Like talking to your friends.
00:23:57.000 The people are so much more guarded.
00:23:59.000 I've been doing all these interviews since I was in the news, and they always say, yeah, but you have to understand that in this climate, you say those things, and they're going to get taken out of context.
00:24:09.000 And you go, okay, we'll all be non-playable characters and just speak like in gray monotone everywhere.
00:24:15.000 Yeah.
00:24:16.000 That's what they want.
00:24:17.000 Well, that's what everyone's doing.
00:24:20.000 They're horrified.
00:24:22.000 I went to the comedy store the other night because I'm out here in Los Angeles, California.
00:24:28.000 And I went to the comedy store and the comics seem to want to push back.
00:24:35.000 They're starting to do material that is just making the crowd groan.
00:24:39.000 And they have to acknowledge it every time and go, oh, oh, why?
00:24:43.000 Why?
00:24:43.000 You can't laugh at that.
00:24:44.000 Like the people are so brainwashed now to have this visceral reaction to a joke that could be perceived as sexist or racist or homophobic that they don't know what to do.
00:24:59.000 And first of all, I think the non-playable character thing is hilariously funny because it's so accurate.
00:25:06.000 Like I've played so many video games through my life and the NPC has always made me laugh.
00:25:12.000 They just walk up and go, hey, watch where you're going.
00:25:16.000 And then just walk away.
00:25:16.000 They're useless and they don't have their own mind of their own.
00:25:19.000 And you'll come upon three characters that say the same exact thing to you.
00:25:23.000 It's such a great analogy that somebody came up with.
00:25:28.000 But that's what people are doing.
00:25:29.000 They're afraid to have any kind of personality.
00:25:32.000 They're afraid to go off script because, and I'm not even saying the fear isn't justified.
00:25:39.000 You could get screwed, man.
00:25:41.000 You could end up with no career and a destroyed reputation.
00:25:47.000 I mean, I don't have to tell you, and no one has to tell me.
00:25:50.000 This is real life.
00:25:52.000 Yeah, and surely these entertainers realize that when you create this culture of Puritanism, you're going to get sucked into it.
00:25:59.000 Like Aziz Ansari, he just came out of hiding after that horrible rape that he committed where she performed fellatio seven times or something.
00:26:10.000 It's the weirdest sexual assault I've ever heard of in my life.
00:26:13.000 But he comes out and now he has a whole shtick about armchair critics and social justice warriors and how they ruin lives.
00:26:20.000 And I'm reading it going, dude, you were one of them.
00:26:22.000 You got hoisted on your own petard.
00:26:26.000 He was one of them, yeah.
00:26:28.000 And I don't think they realized that.
00:26:30.000 I don't think they realize that within a split second, it can turn on you.
00:26:36.000 You see like Alyssa Milano talking about the Me Too movement and how the leaders of that movement have to go because they didn't disavow Farrakhan and some of the hatred and anti-Semitism.
00:26:51.000 It's like they just have to go after whatever's around them.
00:26:55.000 And it doesn't matter who it is or what their opinions were yesterday.
00:27:02.000 It's right at this moment.
00:27:04.000 And in a split second, you could just lose everything.
00:27:08.000 So everyone's petrified.
00:27:09.000 They want to smash the patriarchy.
00:27:11.000 And you go, okay, what do you got?
00:27:12.000 We have a matriarchy. 1.00
00:27:13.000 What are you going to do in the matriarchy? 1.00
00:27:14.000 We're going to have a giant woman's march with pussy hats on our head because we didn't get a joke, a guy said in a bus. 1.00
00:27:19.000 One of the speakers is Linda Sarsour, who wants Sharia law and wants to destroy Israel. 1.00
00:27:24.000 The other was, what was her name, Donna Hilton or something, who sodomized a gay man to death and went to jail for 20 years. 1.00
00:27:34.000 And you go, ladies, this world, you're getting rid of Anthony and I. You're getting rid of all these evil white men that you think are ruining. 0.98
00:27:41.000 Your situation, your paganism is going to be way worse.
00:27:45.000 It's already rife with cannibalism. 0.50
00:27:48.000 It is.
00:27:50.000 And to read some of the stuff I see by like Mark Hamill on Twitter and a couple of other guys that are like, men have been in charge for too long.
00:28:02.000 Women need to be in charge now. 1.00
00:28:05.000 And they paint this picture, this idealistic wonderfulness that mom is going to be in charge and take care of us and make the world a better place.
00:28:16.000 I've never seen a more vindictive people than women. 1.00
00:28:23.000 I'm sorry.
00:28:24.000 It's just the way it is.
00:28:26.000 They could turn in a second and be vicious on you.
00:28:29.000 And the idea that because they're women, they're going to make better leaders or be more compassionate or whatever is such crap.
00:28:39.000 And it's so strange that they openly concede that they're not electing based on policy.
00:28:43.000 They're electing based on gender. 1.00
00:28:45.000 Like Mark Ruffalo was on Twitter waving a flag and he was saying, this is me waving goodbye to the patriarchy.
00:28:52.000 I hate that.
00:28:54.000 It's so douchey.
00:28:56.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:28:59.000 When you see the news and they talk about, oh, look how many women were elected, the most women ever elected during the midterms. 0.99
00:29:07.000 And it's like, who gives a shit?
00:29:10.000 The second you say anything, they'll call you a misogynist, woman hater, whatever.
00:29:10.000 They're the one.
00:29:17.000 And all they're doing is basing their pleasure of the results of the election on their sex and not their qualifications or anything.
00:29:28.000 And they always have been and always will be the most sexist, racist, homophobic people based on their actions that I've ever seen.
00:29:38.000 Well, they smashed your patriarchy because you had a bunch of offensive tweets after you got assaulted by a giant black tranny and didn't use your gun. 1.00
00:29:48.000 If the races were reversed, it would be a story of a hero who kept his cool.
00:29:55.000 But you could have just withered away and vanished and just become a nothing.
00:30:00.000 But starting that compound media, you're saying in the book that you were finally unleashed.
00:30:07.000 And you'd think, okay, now the guy's unleashed.
00:30:09.000 He's obviously a racist, sexist homophobe.
00:30:11.000 So it's just going to be long diatribes and blackface and talking about why rape should be legalized. 0.93
00:30:18.000 But when men are free to do whatever they want, you just end up having a pretty reasonable talk show where you talk about funny stuff.
00:30:27.000 That's men unleashed.
00:30:28.000 Yeah.
00:30:30.000 I just saw a poor connection or something, but you're right.
00:30:30.000 Oh, there we go.
00:30:35.000 You would think that I'd be on there like, you know, Farrakhan or David Duke or someone and just be going off about the races and everything.
00:30:44.000 And meanwhile, being unleashed has just pretty much been, let's have a lot of fun.
00:30:50.000 Let's do comedy and make jokes about things without having to worry that my joke is going to be taken out of context and I'm going to get screwed for it.
00:31:01.000 I didn't decide to turn complete freedom of speech into some racist or misogynistic platform to condone violence against people.
00:31:14.000 We just, we're guys.
00:31:16.000 All we want to do is sit around with our friends and make jokes and bust each other's balls and laugh sometimes at some really atrocious things.
00:31:26.000 And that's what guys do.
00:31:28.000 And guys have done this for millennia.
00:31:30.000 It's nothing new and it's nothing that can be bred out of us in a couple of short years because a few soy boys like we were just talking about are waving flags. 1.00
00:31:41.000 They're the anomaly.
00:31:43.000 They're the weirdos.
00:31:45.000 The real guys are like us, just wanting to sit around, have a good time, and not be bothered and crucified.
00:31:57.000 Uh-oh.
00:31:59.000 He's frozen.
00:32:02.000 Right when he said crucified.
00:32:05.000 Are you back?
00:32:06.000 And we lost your writing.
00:32:06.000 Yeah.
00:32:07.000 Crucified.
00:32:08.000 That was our, we have a special blasphemy tag in Skype that cuts everyone out when they say crucified.
00:32:15.000 But I was going to add to what you're saying.
00:32:17.000 The left is literally convinced that we want to just go up and grab women by their vaginas, just on the street or at work and just honk.
00:32:27.000 They have us so wrong.
00:32:29.000 I worked at Rebel for a while, and they had no HR there at the time.
00:32:33.000 So men were free to grab all the butts they want without worrying about being fired. 0.99
00:32:37.000 Guess what we did with all these women around us? 0.99
00:32:39.000 We joked around, we had fun, it was a really fun place to work.
00:32:43.000 Same with Compound.
00:32:44.000 You had a chick booking all the guests there with gigantic breasts, and there was a million jokes about it, and she was laughing her head off. 1.00
00:32:53.000 Yeah, I guess recently something came out about the work environment at CBS Radio years ago.
00:33:03.000 And of course, there's lawsuits because of sexual harassment and what have you.
00:33:10.000 And I worked at CBS during that period.
00:33:12.000 And I got to tell you, it was a party.
00:33:16.000 We would go out or in studio.
00:33:19.000 There were these women working there, and we'd all be drinking and busting each other's balls or just making jokes and whatever. 1.00
00:33:28.000 And everyone was fine with it.
00:33:30.000 At the time, it didn't look like these girls were hostages.
00:33:34.000 It didn't look like a machine gun was pointed at their head off camera or something.
00:33:39.000 Everyone enjoyed it.
00:33:41.000 Everyone was having fun.
00:33:43.000 And then 15 years later, all of a sudden it was a problem and it was terrible.
00:33:50.000 And they were forced into doing things and had to deal with men drinking and talking about their tits and shit. 0.98
00:33:58.000 It's so ridiculous because they're lying.
00:34:02.000 It's all a lie because now they see an opportunity to turn a buck or get their name out there.
00:34:09.000 And that's the only reason they're coming forward.
00:34:12.000 So brave to come forward.
00:34:15.000 At the time, they were just as much into it and having fun as all the guys were.
00:34:21.000 So that's what we see happening now, too.
00:34:25.000 A lot of people are being called out to stuff that happened 10, 15 years ago when it wasn't even close to a problem back then.
00:34:35.000 Yeah, that's really what this comes down to.
00:34:37.000 In the name of justice, in the name of equality, in the name of all this virtue signaling, they're really at war with fun.
00:34:43.000 They're at war with colorful language and joking around with your friends and saying silly things and playing devil's advocate.
00:34:50.000 And they're against all of that.
00:34:52.000 And they're turning this whole country into non-playable characters.
00:34:56.000 Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
00:34:59.000 I keep thinking I see a light at the end of the tunnel sometimes, and then it just closes up again.
00:35:05.000 And it's very difficult to really express yourself these days.
00:35:11.000 And I see it.
00:35:12.000 I love that I have a platform to speak openly about whatever I want.
00:35:17.000 I love it.
00:35:18.000 But I look around and realize how alone I am.
00:35:21.000 There are only a few of us out there that really are doing this.
00:35:26.000 And we have paid a price for it.
00:35:29.000 There is definitely a price to be paid for doing nothing more than expressing yourself, giving your opinions, making jokes, all innocent things.
00:35:40.000 Never advocating violence, never perpetrating violence against anybody, never oppressing anybody.
00:35:46.000 These are opinions and mostly jokes.
00:35:49.000 And we've paid with our reputations and our livelihoods and our safety just for doing that.
00:35:57.000 So you're alone in this because everyone else sees it and you're that example and they're petrified.
00:36:04.000 Everyone's scared to just give opinions.
00:36:07.000 Yep.
00:36:08.000 It's a sad state of affairs, but I think a lot of people see you doing this and not hiding and coming back full force.
00:36:15.000 The rise and fall and rise again is inspiring to people and maybe it'll encourage others to show a little bit of bravery.
00:36:21.000 I mean, we did do the Civil War.
00:36:23.000 We were in World War II.
00:36:25.000 Maybe there's got to be some balls in there somewhere. 1.00
00:36:29.000 You would think and you would hope, but my God, Gavin, when was the last time you were out in Los Angeles, by the way?
00:36:36.000 Oh, about a year ago.
00:36:41.000 This place is screwed.
00:36:44.000 I mean, California in and of itself, we know it's one of the People's Republic of California.
00:36:51.000 But I have not seen men.
00:36:56.000 Like, there's no men around here.
00:37:01.000 It's a bunch of wispy dudes and gay men. 1.00
00:37:08.000 Like, that's pretty much it.
00:37:12.000 They're on their little scooters out here, little scooters that are all over the place.
00:37:18.000 And they just ride around with their man buns and grub and just looking to support women. 0.56
00:37:28.000 Yeah, last time I was there, I noticed that it hadn't occurred to anyone in the entire city that Obama was not a god, and Obama had imperfections, and there was one or two things slightly wrong with his presidency, like, I don't know, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, you know, minor details like that.
00:37:45.000 And then the other thing I noticed is they see Bill Maher as basically God.
00:37:51.000 And every time you get in an argument with him, they go, you should get on Bill Maher.
00:37:54.000 You should talk to Bill Maher.
00:37:55.000 Meaning like, he's our Superman.
00:37:57.000 You should fight him.
00:37:58.000 And I couldn't convince her.
00:38:00.000 I go, guys, Bill Maher's a douche.
00:38:04.000 They never thought of that.
00:38:05.000 I heard someone had to whisper their support to you at a...
00:38:11.000 I heard someone had to whisper their support to you at a pot dispensary.
00:38:17.000 Yeah, what an amazing turn of events there.
00:38:21.000 We went to one of the pot dispensaries.
00:38:23.000 I'm out here with some friends that do smoke the weed.
00:38:27.000 And it's very strange.
00:38:29.000 There's big billboards everywhere for pot.
00:38:32.000 And you just walk in and there's pot.
00:38:34.000 And they're very professional in these places.
00:38:38.000 You expect just some dude to be like, hey, man, what do you need?
00:38:42.000 And they're very clinical about it.
00:38:45.000 They know all the words.
00:38:48.000 And you just kind of sit there and go, wow, this really is strange.
00:38:52.000 So there was this guy working there.
00:38:54.000 And he actually, it was like Fight Club.
00:39:00.000 He kind of looked at me and went, he goes, I appreciate what you're doing out there, sir.
00:39:06.000 I swear he said that.
00:39:08.000 And it was like, he couldn't really be specific.
00:39:11.000 He couldn't talk openly to me because of my ideology and my opinions.
00:39:20.000 But he said, he goes, people come in here all the time and say, oh, I need this, this, and this.
00:39:27.000 Did you hear Trump's speech today?
00:39:30.000 Did you see what's happening on the border?
00:39:31.000 I need, and then they buy weed and need to calm down.
00:39:35.000 They're losing their minds.
00:39:37.000 So, yeah, this guy who works in a pot dispensary, who obviously has conservative ideas, couldn't even really speak openly lest he'd be fired.
00:39:50.000 Supporting Trump.
00:39:51.000 It's amazing.
00:39:52.000 Supporting Trump in 2018 is the same as being gay in the 50s. 0.75
00:39:58.000 Right.
00:39:59.000 And you will get fagbashed. 1.00
00:40:02.000 You will get a bottle in the head if you're wearing a MAGA hat.
00:40:05.000 It's also violent.
00:40:06.000 It's not just like taboo.
00:40:08.000 It's dangerous.
00:40:10.000 Yeah.
00:40:11.000 And then here at the hotel, Keith was down in the lounge and CNN was on the TV.
00:40:11.000 Yeah.
00:40:18.000 So he goes to one of the guys, he goes, can we change this channel?
00:40:22.000 He goes, whatever you want.
00:40:23.000 He goes, just not Fox News.
00:40:27.000 And Keith just goes, how about no news?
00:40:31.000 How about we just put something else on it?
00:40:34.000 And the guy goes, yeah, because he didn't even hear that.
00:40:37.000 He goes, yeah, because he had Fox News on here once, and there were some problems.
00:40:42.000 People started physical with each other.
00:40:46.000 And it's like, that goes to show exactly what the mindset is.
00:40:51.000 CN was on.
00:40:52.000 He, who's a conservative, asked nicely if the channel could be changed.
00:40:59.000 When Fox News was on, people threw things at the television and punched people.
00:41:05.000 Like, that's the mindset.
00:41:06.000 That sums it up.
00:41:07.000 This immediate, violent, like, you can't discuss it.
00:41:12.000 You can't do anything.
00:41:13.000 You're immediately Hitler and need to be destroyed. 0.97
00:41:19.000 So I don't know.
00:41:22.000 It's so obvious that there's a difference.
00:41:24.000 When people go, oh, it's the same.
00:41:27.000 Everyone's the same.
00:41:28.000 The right and the left.
00:41:29.000 It's just the same.
00:41:30.000 It's like, no.
00:41:31.000 I've talked to a lot of people that are very polite in accepting other people's mindsets and ideas and other people that need to strike out and lash out the second they hear that you're a Trump supporter or a conservative.
00:41:46.000 There is a big difference.
00:41:48.000 And I think the left is just full of people that want to silence everyone.
00:41:52.000 And if you're not silent, they want to perpetrate violence against you.
00:41:56.000 Yeah, they think we're evil.
00:41:57.000 We just think they're wrong.
00:41:58.000 Well, reading the book, it's not just a story about a shock jock leaving his company and starting his own.
00:42:06.000 It's really a great book about the evolution of free speech.
00:42:10.000 And we see how speech has changed.
00:42:12.000 I mean, from the FCC back in your early days to the politically correct mobs today.
00:42:20.000 It's a book about free speech.
00:42:24.000 Yeah, it's so quaint to remember having to adhere to FCC rules and regulations.
00:42:31.000 It's nostalgic.
00:42:33.000 It's sweet.
00:42:35.000 We used to be scared of a government agency that regulated in such a gray area that you were able to circumnavigate it and tell people.
00:42:47.000 We would talk in a way where everyone knew what we were saying, whether it was some of the most heinous sexual acts, race, racial jokes.
00:42:58.000 It didn't matter because it was such a gray area of the First Amendment.
00:43:03.000 That's what it was.
00:43:04.000 And that was what protected us against.
00:43:09.000 So whenever you got an FCC complaint, there was always some way to argue your point.
00:43:14.000 You cannot argue with the mob.
00:43:15.000 No.
00:43:16.000 There is no gray area.
00:43:18.000 There is no recourse.
00:43:20.000 You are evil.
00:43:22.000 You are an iss or a phobe, and you must be destroyed. 1.00
00:43:28.000 At least with the FCC, you had the First Amendment to fight with, and it was a powerful weapon back then.
00:43:35.000 Now, not so much.
00:43:37.000 I don't think anyone worries about the FCC anymore.
00:43:40.000 They're worried about one that tweets something out of context, and the next thing you know, the pylon has happened, and you're out of a job, and people are at your house with pitchforks and torches.
00:43:53.000 Yeah.
00:43:54.000 Well, you've survived it many times, and it's an inspiring story.
00:43:57.000 Thanks for coming on the show, Ann.
00:43:59.000 Thank you, Mr. McGinnis, and we'll see you soon.
00:44:02.000 Cheers.
00:44:03.000 She's got to be somebody's baby.
00:44:06.000 So Ryan and I have been on a psychic bender.
00:44:09.000 There's this guy, Randy.
00:44:10.000 He's got a movie out, actually.
00:44:11.000 I forget what it's called, a documentary.
00:44:13.000 And he was big in the 90s, 80s, and he would go and refute psychics and pay them a million dollars if they could prove they were actually psychic.
00:44:22.000 And there's all these videos of these guys.
00:44:24.000 Like, there's a great video of Johnny Carson, Uri Geller's on there, and Johnny Carson, you know, gives him a real bona fide opportunity to prove his magical powers.
00:44:35.000 And believe it or not, he can't.
00:44:36.000 He doesn't feel strong right now.
00:44:39.000 But some of them are hilarious.
00:44:41.000 By the way, all psychics have weird hairdos.
00:44:43.000 I don't know why that is, but this guy can use his superpowers to turn the page of a book, But change a page?
00:45:03.000 This is how hard it is to turn a page.
00:45:06.000 I'm not looking for any magic powers.
00:45:07.000 You wasted your psychic powers on being a nerd.
00:45:10.000 Yeah, I hope you didn't sell your soul to the devil for that power.
00:45:13.000 I don't mind an eternity in hell.
00:45:14.000 I need to turn pages without touching them.
00:45:16.000 But anyway, check out this guy turning a page.
00:45:20.000 Turn the page of a telephone directory without touching it.
00:45:25.000 And you claim to have done that with psychic power.
00:45:27.000 Yes.
00:45:28.000 Now, you're prepared to wear hats.
00:45:30.000 Are you a pizza Lego?
00:45:33.000 Everything is awesome.
00:45:34.000 Very well.
00:45:36.000 And I like how he's wearing a whole kung fu suit to turn page. 0.92
00:45:40.000 If he can turn the page of the telephone directory.
00:45:43.000 Not really a good use of your martial arts skills.
00:45:45.000 You have the $10,000.
00:45:48.000 He's got $10,000 ready.
00:45:50.000 Yeah, that's it.
00:45:51.000 So he outsmarts him by putting these peanut, like these styrofoam peanuts all over the place.
00:45:59.000 So obviously this guy's probably got something literally up his sleeve where he squeezes it and it shoots air out and you can change the page because you didn't see him.
00:46:07.000 You saw he didn't go.
00:46:09.000 But when this guy does that, it's obviously going to blow these little things.
00:46:13.000 So he goes, no problem.
00:46:14.000 Let me get to work.
00:46:15.000 I wonder what he's thinking right now.
00:46:17.000 What am I going to say?
00:46:18.000 What the hell am I going to do now?
00:46:21.000 Okay, let me just get right on this.
00:46:23.000 And so his excuse is hilarious, but he still tries if he...
00:46:30.000 This is great television.
00:46:33.000 Okay, this is not.
00:46:38.000 How many pages?
00:46:39.000 Just one page.
00:46:40.000 Once.
00:46:41.000 Yeah, any page is there.
00:46:42.000 The styrophone and the lights form electricity, which pulls the page.
00:46:48.000 Look.
00:46:49.000 Look.
00:46:50.000 See, look.
00:46:51.000 No, that's gravity, my friend.
00:46:53.000 Look, see?
00:46:54.000 It's up here, and then I let go of it, it goes down.
00:46:56.000 So it's the lights.
00:46:58.000 It's down.
00:46:59.000 And the styrophone.
00:47:00.000 I can't even bear to watch that.
00:47:02.000 I know.
00:47:03.000 Sick.
00:47:03.000 Freeing the pages.
00:47:04.000 What an absolute clown.
00:47:10.000 Imagine you're his dad, and you're just sitting watching this show right now.
00:47:13.000 Oh, Peter, for crying a little bit.
00:47:15.000 And he did watch it.
00:47:16.000 Like, Dad, I'm going to be on TV.
00:47:18.000 Oh, yeah, but I'm just going to not watch that.
00:47:20.000 Completely humiliated on TV.
00:47:22.000 Holy moly.
00:47:23.000 And so when he was trying that for a minute, he was like, why did he try it if he knew that this city run away?
00:47:32.000 Or just faint?
00:47:32.000 Yeah, he probably should have pretended he had a heart attack.
00:47:36.000 Or pretend someone shot him.
00:47:38.000 I could only do it once a day.
00:47:39.000 Yeah, and you're done.
00:47:40.000 That's what Uri did.
00:47:41.000 He said, I don't feel strong right now.
00:47:43.000 Yeah, my hustle isn't going great.
00:47:45.000 All right, folks, we're way over time here, as per ush.
00:47:48.000 But if you are a psychic out there and you're taking advantage of people whose family just died and you're giving them hope that they spoke to a loved one or you're telling them you can help them with their cancer or other vicious lies, I want you to know that you're going to hell.
00:48:02.000 And maybe you should just sell your soul to the devil, get real magic powers, because you're already headed there anyway.