Join Dave and the lads as they discuss the recent hate crime conviction of a man who made a Nazi dog out of a pug named Ziegheil. Also, the return of the Melvins' King Buzzo.
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00:00:45.000That is Honeybucket for the eternal Timeless Band, the Melvins.
00:00:53.000And I play that song because we've got King Buzzo on the show today.
00:00:58.000Now, all my old punk pals have gone super lefty in their old age.
00:01:21.000We're going to talk about the evolution of sort of alternative music and the scene back in the 80s and even 90s and how they were a lot more open to a diversity of opinions than they are now.
00:01:34.000They've become the fascists in a sense.
00:01:37.000Which brings me to the matter at hand before we get started.
00:02:15.000You know, I was watching Anthony and Attlee the other day on Compound Media and they were talking about Norm McDonald came up with the worst slash best slash most offensive bumper sticker you could have and it was I heart and then the n-word so you got politically correct people mad you got blacks mad you got racists mad the KKK doesn't he like it it's universally offensive and that's sort of what this guy was doing dankie was doing with this pug making
00:02:46.000and as we discussed on a previous show how is that good for nazis to have a nazi pug do they like that no well according to the state by the way glasgow is replete with no-go zones muslims have taken over the place anti-semitic muslims have got a lot more in common with nazis than count dankie but their priority is this gentleman so he was found guilty uh this morning and
00:03:15.000he's going to get sentencing on april 23rd he's looking at two years in prison for making a pug zico hey dave gonna bring up that video just so people can see what all the hullabaloo is about and while you do that look uh tommy robinson is down there tommy by the way gonna get a microphone for christ sakes so here's count dankula just doing a brief sort of recap of um uh this
00:03:45.000ridiculous case it has been going on for years i'm a little bit of a lady there actually finally coming to the end today it's been uh two years of my life completely put on hold uh i've not been able to get a job uh i've even had threats against my life and everything like that as well i've had threats off antifa uh far left radicals and stuff can you hear that it's been two years of his life you can't get a job multiple death threats stuff like that coming up for me as the press trying to brand me as a racist and a nazi and stuff like that and there's a part of the context doesn't actually matter
00:04:15.000anymore yeah that's what come out very clearly in court the crown's the crown's argument here's what's amazing about this by the way too you know who complained you know how many angry scotch jews were hurt by this zilch zero let me get that zero correct zero there was no complaints the state took it upon themselves
00:04:39.000to assume that he was causing offense and meanwhile by the way look all over europe in paris you can't if you're wearing a yarmulke there's plenty places you wouldn't dare go paris is having a massive exodus of jews due to anti-semitism but no they're brown arabs are brown you can't persecute the arabs let's persecute white people who play a silly game with a dog have you got the video my girlfriend
00:05:09.000is always ranting raving about how cute and adorable her wee dog is
00:05:14.000and so i thought i would turn him into the least cute thing that i could think of which is a nazi buddha do you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews come on gas the jews do you want to gas the jews son do you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews gas the jews do
00:05:44.000you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews do you want to gas the jews offence
00:05:59.000of joke aye what did george orwell say long ago i can't believe how much he's coming up by the way if he could if he could um uh see what's going on the new in europe and england and even america he'd be stunned by the way at any rate he said a long time ago he said he said he
00:06:16.000he said within every joke is a tiny revolution and being a Scotsman myself I'm particularly flummoxed by all this I'm particularly hurt I mean if I've had lunch and a pint I can joke about it and send them a wee message on Twitter joking around.
00:06:33.000But if I'm in a bad mood, this seems apocalyptic because Scotland is all about fighting for what's right.
00:06:41.000Even the bloody national anthem, which is unofficial, says, has a line in it about the English and it says, and set them homeward to think again.
00:06:56.000How many anthems criticize another nation while they're singing their praise?
00:07:02.000And I'd just like to sort of reground ourselves here with a beautiful summary of Scotch culture, just to show how far we've strayed from the backbone that defined this nation hundreds of years ago.
00:08:06.000And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willing to train all of these from this day to that for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives!
00:09:01.000Well, the good news is, ah, scared noted, you bitch.
00:09:06.000The good news is there's still fighters out here.
00:09:09.000There's still brave men willing to fight.
00:09:12.000And that includes, by the way, waterworks.
00:09:16.000That includes Count Dancula and Tammy Rob Tommy Robinson and Joey Gibson.
00:09:23.000Joey Gibson is running for Senate by the way.
00:09:26.000This is a wee He's a wee ricky-tikki-tavvy.
00:09:32.000He's a wee scoundrel getting in there with Antifa and biting the snakes and killing the snakes, by the way.
00:09:40.000So we're going to talk to King Buzzle about the evolution of political correctness.
00:09:46.000It couldn't even be more apt than it is today.
00:09:48.000And then we're going to talk to Joey Gibson, head of Patriot Prayer, about his imminent political campaign and how when we feel we're completely overwhelmed by these fucking b ⁇ s, there's still men out there willing to battle, willing to fight for freedom!
00:11:39.000There was a sort of a punk zine back then called Maximum Rock and Roll.
00:11:43.000And there was this guy, Michael Board, who's in New York now, bisexual guy.
00:11:47.000He wrote a column called You're Wrong, and it was pretty right-wing.
00:11:50.000It would just say, you know, things I don't necessarily agree with, like he said, rape is just sexual assault, which I brought up with my dad.
00:11:56.000I remember being 18, and my dad goes, do me a favor, son.
00:11:59.000Get raped and get assaulted, and then tell me which one's worse.
00:12:03.000But the point is, Michael Board could have these kind of mental sort of hypotheticals, like Jonathan Swift, when he suggested the Irish Eat They're Young.
00:12:12.000What Roche V was vilified for when he said, you know what, if you couldn't charge a man with rape after you invited him to your apartment, women would be a lot more careful about who they invited to their apartment.
00:12:22.000That's a good point, an interesting sort of hypothetical brain exercise.
00:12:25.000That became, Rouch V wants to legalize rape, and he was instantly vilified for it.
00:12:31.000The Dickies were a band that were around back then, and they would say things like, blow me, and have a big cock on stage.
00:12:40.000They've just been doing the same thing, and they were recently on the warp tour, same one that Fat Mike is behind, and they were vilified for calling, I don't know, some chick a fat pig in the audience and suggesting they blow her.
00:13:36.000I think the entire left coast was freaked out by New York City, bands like the Cro-Mags and Agnostic Front.
00:13:41.000A lot of these guys were ex-Cubans who knew that socialism was evil.
00:13:46.000And I think that freaked out the sort of lefties on the left coast in punk rock.
00:13:51.000But that was the exception that makes the rule.
00:13:53.000The rule back then was, it's punk rock, anything goes.
00:13:57.000And I've noticed a real change recently with modern punk rock, which is all about rules and regulation and don't say this and don't do that.
00:14:05.000They're essentially the new Puritans, and it just seems like a real contradiction.
00:14:09.000So I thought I would bring on the show King Buzzo, the guitar genius behind the Melvins, who has been around rocking and rolling since the early days I'm talking about and is still gigging up to like this week.
00:14:24.000And I wanted to talk to him about this progression and see if I'm right that PC has ruined everything, including punk.
00:16:21.000Now, you've been around since I first got into alternative music, as it's called, especially punk rock and hardcore.
00:16:29.000We call it an alternative to good music.
00:16:33.000Actually, I was in an 80s hardcore cover band and I was listening to some songs to practice them, you know, to get the words right.
00:16:41.000And while I was skiing, this is in my old age, and I was listening to these songs going, outside of Black Flag and Bad Brains, a lot of these bands suck.
00:16:51.000Well, you know, as is most music, you know.
00:16:53.000I've always said the only reason my record collection's gotten bigger is because time has passed.
00:17:44.000I was watching Fat Mike at some punk thing, hitting an effigy of Trump's head off.
00:17:50.000And I guess we did that too in the 80s with Reagan.
00:17:53.000But it seems to me, in this day and age, punk is so conformist now.
00:17:59.000And if you were to say, go, I don't know, I kind of like some of what Trump has to say, that would be the end of that band, the end of that label, the end of that tour.
00:18:08.000I mean, it's worse than being a pedophile.
00:18:13.000I mean, generally with rock musicians or entertainers of any stripe, I generally have the opinion that we should look to higher sources for our political beliefs.
00:18:30.000But back, I emailed you this a while ago, and I was thinking of like, Johnny Ramon hated communists.
00:21:11.000And the funny thing about all that kind of stuff is like people will go to the trouble of going back through the internet and looking for things that you might have said.
00:21:20.000It could be, you know, if there's one thing I know after doing thousands and thousands of interviews, that at least 70% of the time, even if I've recorded the interview with the person, they get it wrong in the interpretation of what they write.
00:21:34.000So I just look at it like I just let the internet and that world have a life of its own.
00:22:18.000And my ex-girlfriend, her mom was heavily involved in politics, and she was supposedly a Republican, and she would just laugh about partisan politics.
00:23:06.000We know it's all just a bunch of bullshit.
00:23:08.000And we're going to take your 401k money and we're going to give it to our buddies on Wall Street.
00:23:11.000And even though you don't want that to happen under penalty of heavy taxation, and then we're going to pretend like it's for your retirement, we're doing you.
00:23:32.000I just wish the youth would get more rebellious about the man because, like with Accu Buddha Wall Street, they hated Wall Street and they said, well, what's the solution?
00:24:47.000Those who can't do teach, and we have all these teachers teaching them this stupid language, and you go, the teacher that you're listening to is illiterate and couldn't survive in the real world.
00:24:57.000That's the one who's dragging you out to this anti-gun rally.
00:25:00.000That's the one who's telling you to learn everything through a Marxist dialectic.
00:25:03.000That's the one who's teaching you about the world.
00:25:11.000I mean, I don't want to live in a world where the only people who have guns in a country, where the only people who have guns are the cops and the army, you know?
00:25:21.000And, you know, the first thing that people in power do when they feel like their life is in danger is surround themselves with trained killers.
00:25:31.000But if you live on the south side of Chicago, you shouldn't be afforded that same right.
00:25:36.000That's bullshit as far as I'm concerned.
00:26:17.000cops are a cleanup crew, and they're there to appear after the crime has happened.
00:26:23.000And we had John Lott on the show here, and he said the problem with having a security guard at a school is it's a shoot-me-first target.
00:26:29.000He goes, if there was just a sort of a dull knowledge that teachers and staff might be concealed carry, then there's a much smaller chance that someone's going to choose it as a gun-free zone, not necessarily to protect their own life, but to maximize the damage.
00:26:45.000Yeah, maybe, but you know, we also have a police force already in every community.
00:26:50.000You know, why can't they, well, maybe the schools want to feel safer.
00:26:53.000Let's just go through this, you know, we'll cruise through the parking lot every day for the next six months.
00:27:26.000Is this political correctness affecting the average fan who comes to your show?
00:27:32.000Well, you know, I mean, from the time I started going to, you know, punk rock shows and being involved in that kind of stuff, there was always a super left-wing, commie-y kind of flavor to all of it.
00:27:42.000And I never understood any of that stuff because I viewed, even when I was a teenager, I viewed communism as a murderous insanity that always ends in a total bloodbath.
00:27:52.000And I was not wrong about any of that.
00:27:54.000And I never understood how people can stand under that flag but would be terrified to stand underneath a Nazi flag.
00:29:35.000The movie was crap because what they forgot was there's a reason why original Hollywood, who were all based in wanting to make money, hired people that knew what they were doing because they would make good movies.
00:30:44.000And so people like me who decide that what I'm going to do is only be interested in quality product in a lot of different ways, I will always succeed.
00:31:08.000And you go, this war on meritocracy is really just a war on good stuff, a war on fun.
00:31:13.000I saw the director for Wrinklin Time, by the way, claims that people who don't like it are racist.
00:31:18.000Even though Black Panther slayed at the box office, the people who don't like his movie must be racist.
00:31:23.000And you think, you can only use this trope for so long, especially when you start ruining all the stuff we like, because you're taking our fun away.
00:32:30.000So if I get a black guy from South Chicago who dropped out of school at 15, he's going to be the same as the black kid who grew up in Beverly Hills with a doctor as a dad.
00:32:51.000I think Thomas Sowell is the greatest philosopher of our time.
00:32:55.000Yeah, I really feel like we could just, if everyone had to read, say, Black Rednecks, White Liberals, or any one of his books, it would sort of end a lot of this bullshit, a lot of this time-wasting minutiae about equality and diversity and anti-meritocracy.
00:35:36.000Now, the last time I checked in with you, you were up to your old tricks again, fighting Antifa, standing up for freedom, taking a few punches.
00:35:45.000What is this Joey Gibson for Freedom thing?
00:35:50.000Well, basically, after talking to a lot of people, you know, I never wanted to run, you know, but it got to the point where I decided I want to get in there.
00:36:03.000You know, unseat one of the most powerful senators in Washington, D.C. And at the same time, just kind of help people understand that anybody, I don't care how small you think you are, you can step in the ring and you can challenge anybody.
00:37:06.000So she's going to have to spend a lot more money than me because she's going to have to pay for airtime, basically.
00:37:11.000But we're going to run around, do crazy stuff, have great speeches, rallies, marches, and garner the media attention, the controversy, even though I don't say anything that's controversial, but we'll still have a bunch of controversy.
00:37:21.000And so, yeah, we'll get a lot of free, you know, free media.
00:37:25.000Well, you're surrounded by a bunch of lunatics, a bunch of screaming fanatics, and they're very effective.
00:38:21.000We have 70% of our state voted for Bernie Sanders over Hillary Clinton.
00:38:25.000And so the super delegates, they rigged the system.
00:38:29.000Maria Cantwell was a super delegate, and she still gave her vote to Hillary Clinton, even though 70% of her voters voted for Bernie Sanders.
00:38:37.000And so I think there's a lot of Bernie supporters.
00:38:57.000Yeah, basically, yeah, go to D.C., go to the hellhold, and do the best I can to hold my ground, stand on principle, kind of stay away from the temptation to sell out the American people.
00:39:10.000But yeah, I mean, it means me leaving my family, unfortunately, and going out there and just doing what I can, serve my time, get in, get out, and hopefully make some real change.
00:39:20.000For me, it's going to be about preaching about term limits.
00:39:23.000It's hard to convince people in power to give away their power.
00:39:27.000And so that's going to have to come from a grassroots level.
00:39:36.000What can the viewers do to help you win this election?
00:39:39.000So Maria can't, well, she's going to have $10 million, no problem, you know.
00:39:44.000And so one of the biggest things is money, you know.
00:39:46.000And so we have to get donations from people all over the country, you know, small donations.
00:39:52.000We need people to donate $10, $5, whatever they can.
00:39:55.000If they go to gibsonforfreedom.com, there's an opportunity to go on there and to donate.
00:39:59.000The next thing, you can sign up on the email list.
00:40:04.000And he pretty much, it's a way for us to connect with people so people can know how to volunteer, how to help out.
00:40:10.000And without doing, you know, social media is really getting in the way right now.
00:40:13.000The day that I announced that I was running for the U.S. Senate, that night, like my Facebook post alone went from like, you know, a couple hundred reactions to like 10.
00:40:40.000Let's get all our viewers on the mailing list and let's help you win.
00:40:43.000I just, I love that you have the courage to go up, stand up to these people, not in Texas or not in a state where it's just normal to be pro-Constitution, but you're doing it in the eye of the storm.
00:42:38.000E.g., Govern Hill in Glasgow, where I walked to from our tenement in Torresdale Street for ballet slash tap dance lessons at night at eight years old with my big bro, who's now dead.
00:42:49.000I was warned by the neighbour last June not to go there during the day.
00:43:39.000And when I see this video that I'm going to end with, I see everything I hate about baby boomers.
00:43:43.000Me, me, me, not paying attention to what they're doing, putting their seatbelt on, making sure they're safe, going, look at me, look at me, and then fucking everything up for the generation after them.