Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - March 29, 2018


Get Off My Lawn #107 | #MeUndo


Episode Stats

Length

44 minutes

Words per Minute

174.98694

Word Count

7,819

Sentence Count

644

Misogynist Sentences

40

Hate Speech Sentences

74


Summary

In Part 3 of our four-part series on My Record Collection: Hiding My Guts, I discuss the Black Star movie starring Talib Kweli and Mostaf, and the controversy surrounding Talib and the song he wrote about gays being cool.


Transcript

00:00:07.000 Lord All night Sundays and go Follow me up, they say hi Dick, get your rolling head pop Say that rolling poppin' offion out the half of it We'll catch it after math of it Protect all the black accurate Me a quality close like Bethlehem and
00:00:36.000 Nazareth After this you be present God kettle blasters are heavy.
00:00:42.000 How did Radio Raheem carry that thing and do the right thing?
00:00:46.000 There he is.
00:00:46.000 That was fast Me undo MYPD letting down sex victims unit.
00:00:53.000 We got opening day tomorrow.
00:00:54.000 I'm gonna be there watching the Mets.
00:00:56.000 We have a Dead Fireman's Funeral, Michael Davidson.
00:01:00.000 Very local New York-y stuff.
00:01:01.000 That was Black Star starring Taleb Quelly and Most Def.
00:01:06.000 It's part three in our four-part series on My Record Collection, hating my guts.
00:01:14.000 I had a lot to do with this band's success, I would say, back in Vice days, promoting them in the early 2000s.
00:01:22.000 It's funny, Mostaf, I think he became Muslim back.
00:01:26.000 It was kind of cool before September 11th to be Muslim.
00:01:28.000 It still had that Muhammad Ali sort of luster to it.
00:01:32.000 And then we learned that jihadists have sex with children and throw gays off buildings.
00:01:38.000 And it must suck to be a Muslim convert and be part of the uncool Islam post-9-11.
00:01:46.000 That's Mostaf.
00:01:47.000 He was humiliated, I think, on Bill Maher's show by Christopher Hitchens, where Christopher Hitchens was mocking him for saying 9-11 was an inside job, probably trying to save his cool Muslim ass.
00:01:59.000 And Mostaf just kept saying, you don't know me.
00:02:03.000 You don't know me.
00:02:04.000 But my beef is with Talib Quelli, and it's not just because he's a Yankees fan.
00:02:10.000 He's just a jerk.
00:02:11.000 I think he's gay.
00:02:12.000 I think that he's the middle-class kid of academics, and he turned out to be gay.
00:02:16.000 And we don't care about that, obviously, white New Yorkers.
00:02:19.000 But the black hip-hop scene ain't down with that.
00:02:23.000 They were all mad at McElmore for singing cool songs about gays.
00:02:28.000 Lord something, I forget his name, but there was this rapper who was really mad at him, said, you're in hip-hop's house.
00:02:33.000 And when you're in hip-hop's house, you don't write a song about gays being cool.
00:02:39.000 But this guy, who I believe is gay, we had words.
00:02:43.000 Let me see if I can find it here.
00:02:46.000 He was bitching about, yeah, there it is.
00:02:48.000 He was bitching about Cernovich and Hannity and how evil they are.
00:02:52.000 And I said, what's the matter with Hannity and Cernovich?
00:02:55.000 They're fanatically educated on right-wing politics.
00:02:58.000 And that's true, even if you don't like them.
00:03:00.000 And I've had this fight with liberals before.
00:03:01.000 I've said, I get that you don't like Hannity, but you have to admit he's informed.
00:03:06.000 He's not stupid.
00:03:07.000 No one can call Mike Cernovich stupid.
00:03:10.000 You can say he's odious.
00:03:11.000 But anyway, I said that to Talib, the guy we just heard in that song, and he came back.
00:03:15.000 Further proof, Gavin McInnes is a white supremacist.
00:03:20.000 He also would call me a f ⁇ boy, B-O-I, quite a bit, which I thought made me think it further pushed the narrative that he's gay.
00:03:31.000 Because it sounds like something like a tranny would call a young boy in the gay scene or something, doesn't it?
00:03:36.000 F ⁇ boy.
00:03:38.000 I would never call someone that.
00:03:40.000 It just seems like a bizarre thing to call someone.
00:03:43.000 We've got a fun show for you tonight.
00:03:45.000 I just want to discuss a few things in the news.
00:03:47.000 Fleckis, Austin Fleckis of Fleckis Talks, we've been talking off the air, and he brought up an interesting theory.
00:03:55.000 He thinks that stimulus, that $1.3 trillion thing Trump signed, was 3D chess, 4D chess, 5D chess.
00:04:05.000 And he says there was, what, 800 billion in there or some massive number in there for military spending.
00:04:12.000 All he has to do now is say the wall is self-defense.
00:04:15.000 And the next thing you know, the military is building the wall for 10 times the price it needs.
00:04:21.000 I think you could build it for 80 billion, easy peasy.
00:04:25.000 But now we have quite a bit more allotted to it.
00:04:29.000 So I think that's an interesting theory, and I think it's got some serious legs.
00:04:32.000 So I was mad at Trump for signing that, but maybe it was incredibly intelligent.
00:04:36.000 We also didn't cover the fact that the Pulse nightclub shooter was an FBI informant.
00:04:44.000 Again, kids, you keep talking about the government regulating your guns and giving the government more authority, and every time we look under a rock, we see more government incompetence.
00:04:55.000 How many times was that Nicholas Cruz reported to the police and they just ignored it?
00:05:01.000 And here we find out that this guy, Omar Mateen, was that his name?
00:05:04.000 It was his father who was the...
00:05:10.000 I assume money he was getting from the FBI to be an informant.
00:05:13.000 So he's being investigated, and while they slowly drag their feet on that, 89 people get shot.
00:05:22.000 And finally, I also wanted to cover Roseanne.
00:05:25.000 Roseanne aired last night, Its Rules.
00:05:28.000 First episode, slightly sticky, right?
00:05:30.000 You got to get into the groove.
00:05:32.000 I haven't watched a sitcom in a long time, but she's pro-MAGA, and she makes her sister, Jackie, the ex-cop, a Hillary supporter with a pussy hat on, who isn't a complete fool.
00:05:45.000 And they make Roseanne's Trump admiration totally reasonable.
00:05:49.000 It's funny seeing the writers in interviews say, we had to remind ourselves that we're not supposed to be mouthpieces, and that this isn't what we think, it's what the Connors think.
00:05:59.000 Yeah, that's what writing is, dummies.
00:06:02.000 You're not the character.
00:06:04.000 It's amazing that Hollywood liberals have to work hard to remind themselves of that.
00:06:08.000 But I thought it was a really good episode.
00:06:10.000 And I can't wait to watch it with my kids, show them that there can be a mega world, a mega family out there, and that they're not evil.
00:06:18.000 They're not racist, sexist, whatever.
00:06:20.000 They don't want to deny people health care.
00:06:22.000 All right.
00:06:24.000 So on the show today, we have Shiva, who is running against Elizabeth Warren.
00:06:29.000 He's The real Indian against the fake Indian.
00:06:32.000 And I wanted to have him on because, with all these gun marches, I was reminded of the Boston March where he did a talk for free speech, and everyone wanted to shut him down, like tens of thousands of people, because he's a Nazi.
00:06:43.000 And I thought, that was idiotic.
00:06:45.000 The woman's march was idiotic.
00:06:47.000 And this gun march is idiotic.
00:06:48.000 And what I say to all of these people in all of these things is, what exactly do you want?
00:06:53.000 What did the woman in the woman's march want?
00:06:56.000 For it not to be a law that you can grab their pussy?
00:06:59.000 Okay.
00:06:59.000 I feel like a genie when I talk to these guys.
00:07:02.000 What do you want in the gun march?
00:07:04.000 We want you not to be able to buy a machine gun.
00:07:06.000 Done.
00:07:07.000 What do you want at the anti-hate march in Boston?
00:07:10.000 We don't want Nazis taking over the country.
00:07:14.000 We don't want the KKK in the White House.
00:07:16.000 I can make all their dreams come true just by snapping my fingers.
00:07:20.000 I'm magic.
00:07:21.000 I also want to talk today about fake blacks.
00:07:24.000 Black people who grew up in totally white environments and can't get off their Malcolm X high horse about how racist America is.
00:07:32.000 I think they're total phonies and fakes.
00:07:35.000 And I bet, I don't mention this, I won't get into this, but I can't help but think black people see them as phonies.
00:07:41.000 I don't think black people like Corey Booker.
00:07:43.000 I think he appeals to white people who wish they had more black friends.
00:07:47.000 And that, by the way, is basically the entire DNC.
00:07:51.000 It's all the New York Times.
00:07:52.000 It's a big demographic.
00:07:54.000 And I also want to look at, maybe we'll do this first, is this new group of women in Australia who do these terribly patronizing videos about the troubles with society and how evil and sexist and everything we are.
00:08:09.000 And the way they talk, the way they explain it, and it's so facile that it shows their mindset, which is that of a five-year-old.
00:08:18.000 Let's start with that.
00:08:22.000 Remember the other day where we had that woman at the podium who threw up?
00:08:26.000 She said, I demand the right to speak.
00:08:28.000 It's always old cis white men talking at the podium.
00:08:31.000 Let me get up there.
00:08:32.000 Okay, here.
00:08:33.000 Hi.
00:08:37.000 Too often we see this with women who demand a voice, especially on Facebook, where they go, I want to talk here.
00:08:46.000 It's a gift from something else.
00:08:48.000 It says, your next day is only as big as your heart cares of the day before where all the love was together with friends believing in yourself and cherished the moment.
00:09:02.000 And you go, well, I'm glad you got a voice.
00:09:04.000 That's a handy.
00:09:06.000 A stitch in time saves nine.
00:09:08.000 Thanks, lady.
00:09:10.000 So these are some broads in Australia who keep putting out these brutally cringy videos where they think they are conveying some profound truths in a fun and interesting way, but they're really just talking to a five-year-old.
00:09:25.000 So this particular one is called the Internet Song, and it's all about the internet.
00:09:31.000 Now, my youngest kid is five, and this is about how I would talk to him.
00:09:36.000 What's this?
00:09:37.000 It's the internet.
00:09:38.000 What's that?
00:09:39.000 It's a big network, an open forum that allows the expression of opinions where people have discussion with their different points of view.
00:09:46.000 Why are you telling me what the internet is?
00:09:49.000 Who does not know what the internet is?
00:09:52.000 And by the way, speaking of men, am I the only guy turned on by how dumb this Asian girl is?
00:09:59.000 She's portraying herself as a complete idiot, and I'm embarrassed to admit that that turns me on.
00:10:05.000 Sorry, don't get mad at me.
00:10:07.000 That's this guy.
00:10:08.000 Whoa, that sounds pretty happy.
00:10:10.000 Well, no, it's actually pretty crappy.
00:10:12.000 Here are two people trying to live their life.
00:10:14.000 They both log in and go online.
00:10:16.000 They have many options for how to spend their time, but they do it differently.
00:10:19.000 Can you show me through Rhyme?
00:10:21.000 Sure.
00:10:21.000 This is Carol, and she's in her 30s.
00:10:24.000 So we're going to learn why the internet is crappy.
00:10:27.000 And I think we all know where this is going.
00:10:29.000 She's going to be a nice person who gets bullied online.
00:10:33.000 am i correct to a job which is pretty busy maybe she'll share a video of a dog or download recipes Most importantly, she has empathy and doesn't feel like she has to be mean.
00:10:44.000 Whoa, she sounds content.
00:10:46.000 Is everyone like this on the internet?
00:10:48.000 Did you hear that?
00:10:51.000 This is women complaining about being in the free market of ideas.
00:10:55.000 Really, that's what's happening here.
00:10:57.000 And they're saying, we are liberated from the kitchen.
00:11:00.000 We're liberated from the backyard where we're hanging up the laundry and gossiping with our neighbor.
00:11:04.000 And we're out here with the big boys.
00:11:06.000 We're not content.
00:11:07.000 We don't like it.
00:11:08.000 People are mean.
00:11:09.000 All I want to do is share a dog video and eat a cupcake.
00:11:13.000 And you're challenging my ideas.
00:11:15.000 All I did was call you all racist, sexist pigs.
00:11:18.000 And you are arguing back at me.
00:11:20.000 That's not what I like.
00:11:23.000 So we're going to see this guy with the chin beard who's going to ruin her life by pointing out her.
00:11:28.000 No, me, Kevin.
00:11:29.000 He used to be nice, but then he became disenfranchised.
00:11:32.000 His life hasn't turned out as he planned, so he spends all his time posting on four chance.
00:11:36.000 He frequently visits alt-right memes and thinks feminism is what ruined his dreams.
00:11:40.000 Wow, he sounds fantastic.
00:11:44.000 Maybe feminism did ruin his dreams.
00:11:46.000 Did you ever think of that?
00:11:47.000 And here's another problem with the internet.
00:11:50.000 We see 14-year-olds as human beings, and that's an error.
00:11:57.000 14-year-olds are stupid idiots.
00:11:59.000 When I was 14, I spent about a third of my day praying to God to help me stop having a constant boner.
00:12:06.000 That was my biggest concern at the time.
00:12:08.000 And I remember saying to him, look, if it's pepperoni pizza that's going to calm down this libido, I'll eat 10 pepperoni pizzas a day.
00:12:15.000 I just need an anchor here, God.
00:12:16.000 I can't stop thinking about tits.
00:12:19.000 And these guys also send out tweets to strangers that go, your tits are gross.
00:12:24.000 Those guys are not an authority.
00:12:26.000 But we keep saying there's a backlash on the internet or people are mad that this woman is black or that this plus-size girl is in the movies.
00:12:36.000 There's a huge backlash.
00:12:38.000 The internet is losing its temper.
00:12:41.000 The internet hates that this is going on.
00:12:43.000 That's not a viable source if it's just a frustrated adolescent kid.
00:12:48.000 So this 4chan alt-right dude is a little kid.
00:12:52.000 If someone yells at you from a school box, hey, fat ass, you don't go, this is really intense.
00:12:58.000 What's going on here?
00:12:59.000 People are yelling at my buttocks.
00:13:02.000 No, it's a little kid yelling.
00:13:04.000 Ever attended Halloween?
00:13:05.000 They also toilet paper trees.
00:13:07.000 This isn't indicative of a pattern, and it's certainly not the death of the internet.
00:13:13.000 No, I'm being sarcastic.
00:13:14.000 The internet's great for personal use, but for some sad people, that includes abuse.
00:13:18.000 See, Carol can visit an internet page without the need to directly engage.
00:13:23.000 Kevin sees a kid's show from five months back, and he feels like he's being personally attacked.
00:13:27.000 Carol and Kevin both saw the same clip.
00:13:30.000 By the way, Milo's pointed this out quite a bit.
00:13:33.000 Studies have shown that women are the ones bullying women.
00:13:38.000 Yes, women get a lot of abuse online.
00:13:41.000 It mostly comes from women.
00:13:43.000 Sorry, but they seem a little more vindictive than men.
00:13:46.000 And you've probably noticed that in your own life.
00:13:48.000 Like in high school, where you like this girl named Kim, and everyone in school, all the other girls go, she's a fat bitch.
00:13:55.000 And you go, oh, that's what fat is?
00:13:57.000 I don't even think high school boys know what fat is until other girls tell them.
00:14:02.000 Carol pressed like, then ate some chips.
00:14:04.000 Kevin tagged his mates in the Facebook comments because it's anti-white, anti-male leftist content.
00:14:08.000 He then posted his own reaction video and directed alt-right trolls to Attack a Kids Show.
00:14:13.000 Okay, by the way, we are one minute and 20 seconds in and zero substance so far.
00:14:18.000 It's all about two people.
00:14:20.000 One of them just wants to mind her own business and one of them is slightly mean.
00:14:25.000 This is a minute and 20 seconds of two adult people's lives to convey what?
00:14:31.000 That there's a mean person on the internet?
00:14:34.000 I know.
00:14:37.000 I mean, it was literally a Facebook page for a kid's show.
00:14:41.000 I mean, why on earth are grown men wasting their time trying to see?
00:14:45.000 Carol doesn't need to post.
00:14:46.000 See, how do you know he's a grown man, by the way?
00:14:49.000 So a 14-year-old boy made fun of a kid's show.
00:14:52.000 By the way, that 14-year-old boy was stoned.
00:14:54.000 He just smoked a bowl, ate some chips.
00:14:57.000 He was bored, and he made fun of a kid's show.
00:15:00.000 When he looks back at that post, he just goes, the next day, by the way, 24 hours later, he went, I don't know what that was about.
00:15:06.000 And they're jumping up and down on a green screen, screaming about it.
00:15:11.000 Abuse because she puts her time to good use.
00:15:14.000 But Kevin hates his job and women won't date him because he likes to quote Rick and Morty verbatim.
00:15:18.000 But instead of looking at himself, Kevin likes to blame the world.
00:15:22.000 So where does a person like Kevin go?
00:15:24.000 The comments section on a kid's video.
00:15:27.000 Word.
00:15:29.000 All right, so we are one minute and 48 seconds in.
00:15:33.000 Just a pube from two minutes.
00:15:36.000 And the bone of contention here that's taken two people all day and probably about 14 hours of post-work with editing and graphics.
00:15:48.000 What's that called?
00:15:49.000 After effects.
00:15:50.000 To make the point that a stoned 14-year-old was rude about a kid's show on Facebook in the comments.
00:16:00.000 That's it.
00:16:01.000 There we go, folks.
00:16:03.000 A two-minute video about absolutely nothing.
00:16:07.000 Thank God liberals have a voice.
00:16:09.000 Thank God women are finally getting to the podium so they can barf.
00:16:16.000 You see this guy?
00:16:17.000 Go full screen on him, Dave.
00:16:19.000 This is what I like to call a Talcum X. And they're fake blacks.
00:16:25.000 They are a type.
00:16:27.000 Now, I don't know anything about this guy.
00:16:29.000 I'm just saying he looks like this type.
00:16:32.000 He resembles this type.
00:16:33.000 So I'm using it as a springboard to talk about.
00:16:35.000 And I grew up with these kind of guys, especially in Canada.
00:16:38.000 And it's usually half black, half white guy.
00:16:41.000 The black dad leaves, and they grew up with the white mom in a white environment in the suburbs, all white people.
00:16:48.000 And white people, they don't want to have a black friend who likes watching the office and skateboards and plays golf.
00:16:56.000 That's not good status as a white person.
00:16:59.000 When you say some of my best friends are black, you want that black guy to be into Malcolm X. And so these people do the free market of social ideas and they go, all right, you want to have a Malcolm X friend?
00:17:13.000 I'm a Malcolm X friend.
00:17:14.000 I see this with other races too, like Indian girls, you know, dot, dot, feather.
00:17:19.000 They'll have the nose ring and the sari, even though it's not their culture, really.
00:17:23.000 They grew up white, surrounded by white people, or Indians with feathers, they're all like going to the powwow and they have a tattoo of a feather or something.
00:17:33.000 Or Asians with their Asian tattoos, even though they didn't grow up like that.
00:17:37.000 They grew up in Vermont.
00:17:38.000 People exaggerate their own race because white people want them to.
00:17:43.000 It's actually a form of performing for the white man.
00:17:48.000 And I got in trouble for saying this about Corey Booker before, but I want to give a list of examples of these Talcum X types because they're phonies.
00:17:57.000 Now, again, I know nothing about this guy, Sean Alexander Allen.
00:18:01.000 I'm just using him as a visual aid, and I can't help but notice he's got the big Malcolm X thing on his Twitter profile.
00:18:08.000 But here's some real examples of it.
00:18:10.000 Of course, Corey Booker.
00:18:12.000 Corey Booker grew up in a neighborhood so white that he was the only black family there.
00:18:19.000 In fact, I think it was illegal for his family to move there.
00:18:24.000 And they had to fight with the courts and become the only black family for miles in this super white neighborhood.
00:18:31.000 Grew up going to all white schools, going to private school.
00:18:34.000 White did he white, white, white.
00:18:36.000 His parents wanted that.
00:18:37.000 They wanted him out of the hood.
00:18:38.000 But he grows up to be an adult.
00:18:40.000 And white people go, can you be like a black dude?
00:18:43.000 Like more like, can you go like, yo, what's up?
00:18:46.000 Yo, what is up?
00:18:46.000 All right.
00:18:48.000 No, yo, what's up?
00:18:49.000 So he starts basically being a wigger.
00:18:54.000 Sorry.
00:18:55.000 But that's what's going on here.
00:18:58.000 The guy's as black as me, and he got in trouble a while ago for coming up with his fake friend T-Bone and talking.
00:19:05.000 And when he goes, when he's, you know, in politics, he just repeats this whole, this is so racist.
00:19:11.000 Everyone is being so racist.
00:19:13.000 As a black man, I can't believe what's going on in this country.
00:19:16.000 And it accrues currency.
00:19:18.000 It's a cool thing to do.
00:19:20.000 And sometimes people can't resist doing it.
00:19:23.000 And it's just, it stinks to me.
00:19:25.000 Another person like this is Melissa Harris Perry.
00:19:28.000 She's another black person who grew up white.
00:19:31.000 I believe she was adopted by a white family.
00:19:33.000 So her Christmas was like mine.
00:19:36.000 White people in the morning, all white family, little dog there, little white presents.
00:19:41.000 You got the six million dollar man.
00:19:43.000 You go over to your white cousin's house.
00:19:46.000 He's playing in his little fire engine red truck.
00:19:49.000 No collared greens.
00:19:50.000 And I noticed in her Twitter, you know, much more recently when she had that show on MSNBC, she was all, she's got her dreads on, her little, you know, wool braids.
00:20:00.000 And all her pictures were with all her black friends.
00:20:03.000 And she's talking about collard greens and chitlins.
00:20:05.000 And it's fake.
00:20:07.000 That's not who she is.
00:20:10.000 The only thing black about her is her skin.
00:20:13.000 But she performs for the white media because Affirmative Action goes, we need a black show on this.
00:20:18.000 I'll do it.
00:20:19.000 I'll ramp up my black accent and do a fake black accent that is basically as ridiculous as me doing a black accent.
00:20:27.000 Another person like this, Alicia Keys.
00:20:29.000 Alicia Keys, black dad, whoosh, gone.
00:20:33.000 Didn't know him, didn't have anything to do with Alicia Keys' upbringing.
00:20:37.000 She was raised, I believe, in the Upper East Side here in New York City.
00:20:40.000 She went to private schools, went to, I think she went to Juilliard, she went to music schools, learned classical piano, all white people everywhere.
00:20:48.000 Her hair was nice and straight.
00:20:50.000 Shouldn't say nice and straight.
00:20:51.000 Her hair was straight.
00:20:52.000 I mean, it seems like it's black people who don't like Afros much more than white people.
00:20:58.000 They call it good hair, right?
00:21:01.000 And then she's on the BET Awards talking about black culture, this, black culture, that.
00:21:05.000 The only argument you'd have is if we lived in a brutally racist society where even though you grew up white, no one accepted you because they saw your skin was slightly darker.
00:21:16.000 But that's not the case.
00:21:17.000 Everyone loved Alicia Keys her whole life.
00:21:19.000 No one disliked Alicia for her slim melanin pickings.
00:21:26.000 No one went, what's Alicia doing in here?
00:21:28.000 My lord, we will not have that in here.
00:21:30.000 We don't want a Negro playing piano.
00:21:32.000 Sorry, but they still use that currency.
00:21:35.000 Another woman like this was Mariah Carey.
00:21:39.000 No black dad around, raised by her white mom, white, white, white upbringing, and she's still the BET Awards.
00:21:46.000 I grew up white.
00:21:47.000 I mean, I grew up black.
00:21:48.000 I'm going to talk about the black experience.
00:21:51.000 All these black people saying she's such an inspiration for getting out of the hood and stuff.
00:21:56.000 It's all a lie.
00:21:58.000 Also, Colin Kaepernick, another guy, abandoned by his black parents.
00:22:05.000 Actually, not unlike Nicholas Cruz abandoned by his Mexican parents.
00:22:08.000 But Colin Kaepernick, abandoned by his black parents.
00:22:11.000 They couldn't handle it.
00:22:12.000 They don't want him.
00:22:13.000 Some white family comes along, picks him up, dusts him off, feeds him some Gerber.
00:22:18.000 He grows up just as white as Melissa Harris-Perry and Alicia Keys and Mariah Carey.
00:22:22.000 White neighborhood, white friends, Corey Booker's life.
00:22:26.000 Then he gets older and people go, eh.
00:22:30.000 They say that.
00:22:31.000 You'll notice that's kind of an insult.
00:22:32.000 White people say to black people, they go, this is the whitest black guy I ever met.
00:22:37.000 And I think black people go, oh, I'm a sellout.
00:22:40.000 Yo, what's up?
00:22:40.000 Okay.
00:22:42.000 Hey, I'm Colin Kaepernick.
00:22:44.000 And he grows his afro out, like he's in the Black Panthers.
00:22:46.000 And then he starts taking a knee and hanging out with, ironically, Sean King, the king of Talcam X's, and talking about the black experience and how horrible and racist America is.
00:22:57.000 Now, there's an argument for America being racist, but you're the last person who should be talking about it.
00:23:03.000 It's like Warren Buffett talking about how crappy it is to be homeless in America.
00:23:08.000 I mean, yes, I guess it is pretty bad to be homeless, but no one wants to hear that coming from Warren Buffett.
00:23:13.000 And no one sane wants to hear about Colin Kaepernick talking about how horrible it is to be black in America.
00:23:21.000 You turned out pretty good, buddy.
00:23:23.000 Now, I think the craziest example of this is a woman in high-tech called Adria Richards.
00:23:30.000 And to me, she sums up this bizarre phenomenon perfectly.
00:23:35.000 She was a woman you might remember from Dongo Gate many years ago.
00:23:39.000 She was at a high-tech conference, black woman.
00:23:42.000 Just survive on your merit, lady.
00:23:44.000 Do coding.
00:23:45.000 Just accept that you're there.
00:23:46.000 No, no, no, no.
00:23:47.000 I need a leg up, so I'm going to pretend that I have a leg down.
00:23:50.000 I'm going to pretend it's horrible here and racist and sexist.
00:23:53.000 So when I do something like I get a B minus, you have to see it as an A plus because I overcame all this adversity.
00:24:01.000 So she says, yeah, these guys were making rude dongle jokes.
00:24:05.000 These are guys whispering to each other about a dongle, and he goes something like, my dongle's bigger than your dongle.
00:24:11.000 She exposes that.
00:24:13.000 That guy gets fired.
00:24:14.000 Huge backlash against her.
00:24:17.000 She ends up getting fired for getting the guy fired, which she then makes more about white supremacy.
00:24:22.000 And I looked up her background.
00:24:24.000 Again, just like all of these people, well, not Corey Booker, sorry.
00:24:28.000 Just like Mariah Carey and Alicia Keys.
00:24:32.000 Black dad abandoned her, right?
00:24:34.000 Raised by a white mom.
00:24:36.000 While the black dad was around, when she was a little kid, the black dad beat the living shit out of the white mom.
00:24:44.000 At one point, he took a hammer and smashed all her teeth out.
00:24:51.000 It's like Lacey Macaulay.
00:24:54.000 She thought, oh, Muslims are the best.
00:24:55.000 She goes with her Muslim boyfriend back to, I think, Turkey.
00:24:58.000 She gets raped and beaten and thrown in prison.
00:25:00.000 She comes back and as the head of Antifa DC, her modus operandi is, white supremacy is the problem.
00:25:07.000 White men are evil.
00:25:09.000 They are sexist.
00:25:10.000 And you go, this is this bizarre ethnomasochism that white people foster.
00:25:15.000 So Adria Richards has her mother's teeth knocked out with a hammer by her black husband.
00:25:21.000 He vanishes, and the rest of her life is dedicated to how evil white people are and how horrible it is to be black in America.
00:25:31.000 Now, who do I blame for all this?
00:25:33.000 White people.
00:25:34.000 White people and their ethnomasochism.
00:25:36.000 They love this self-flagellation.
00:25:38.000 And they all but insist that everyone remotely black chastise white people for all the horrible things they've done.
00:25:47.000 I think it's embarrassing and insincere.
00:25:49.000 And the reason I don't like it is because I dislike dishonesty and it's just phony.
00:25:59.000 Shiva, are you There, sir.
00:26:01.000 I'm right here, Gavin.
00:26:02.000 How are you?
00:26:03.000 I think it's important.
00:26:03.000 I'm great.
00:26:04.000 I think it's important that we just call you Shiva and not bother with last names.
00:26:08.000 They're too hard.
00:26:10.000 Definitely.
00:26:11.000 I was watching this gun march over the weekend, and I'm looking at hundreds of thousands of people all over the world, Canada, Britain, everywhere.
00:26:24.000 And I'm looking at them and I'm thinking, what do you guys want?
00:26:28.000 And it reminded me of your march in Boston where tens of thousands of people showed up and I'm looking at these mobs going, what are you saying?
00:26:37.000 What's your point?
00:26:38.000 I don't even understand what the hell they want.
00:26:41.000 Do you know?
00:26:43.000 Well, you know, what's happening, Gavin, is that people know that demonstrations of these things are powerful, right?
00:26:51.000 But the people participating in these, I don't even think they're aware, is it really a bottoms-up movement, which would be good, right?
00:26:59.000 Or is it top-down?
00:27:00.000 I think a lot of these are top-down driven.
00:27:02.000 And when you look at issues like gun violence or when you look at a lot of these complex issues we face, the politicians have no idea how to handle them because these are not simple issues anymore.
00:27:13.000 And if you look at the gun violence issue, what's happening, in my opinion, in fact, it's interesting you bring this up because today at 2 p.m., I got invited by a bunch of local high school students in Arlington.
00:27:25.000 You know, the never again, they said, hey, we're inviting all the Senate candidates.
00:27:29.000 Would you like to come?
00:27:30.000 So I'm going to go there.
00:27:31.000 And my position on this is probably going to be vastly different than sort of your typical left or right issue because the Second Amendment, in my opinion, was set up so we could protect ourselves from the government.
00:27:43.000 That's the foundations of it.
00:27:45.000 And I think that's one of the most powerful things we have next to the First Amendment.
00:27:49.000 And so when I look at this issue, if you really take that principle all the way through, my view is we should still have local militias, Gavin.
00:28:00.000 And that's the real solution.
00:28:01.000 But that may seem too radical for people.
00:28:03.000 You know, in Switzerland, they have a lot of guns.
00:28:06.000 Everyone participates in the militia.
00:28:08.000 They don't have this kind of violence.
00:28:10.000 So it's not the guns.
00:28:11.000 You know, we send 18-year-old kids with all sorts of weaponry to go elsewhere and kill people, right?
00:28:16.000 No one talks about that when Hillary Clinton or the Bushes or, you know, we sent kids to go fight these wars.
00:28:22.000 No one's talking about gun violence there.
00:28:24.000 So the politicians and other forces essentially, like, as we say in systems theory, like to take a reductionist approach, right?
00:28:32.000 Take a very complex problem and try to find this one little solution because it's beneficial to them and get a bunch of people marching around on that.
00:28:39.000 That's what you're really seeing with these protests right now.
00:28:43.000 And the students are essentially not having an opportunity to really understand the real issues.
00:28:48.000 And that's unfortunate.
00:28:49.000 Well, I think that there's two things going on, as you say.
00:28:53.000 There's the bottoms up and the top-down.
00:28:55.000 The top-down is the left, the Democrats, they want to reverse gun culture in America, and they really want to repeal the Second Amendment.
00:29:03.000 They want to be in control of all the guns.
00:29:06.000 So all of these people below them are useful idiots.
00:29:09.000 And at least the top-down guys, it's clear what they want.
00:29:13.000 They want to end the Second Amendment.
00:29:14.000 They don't want militias.
00:29:16.000 But the bottoms up guys, I feel like saying, here's a magic piece of paper.
00:29:19.000 No, not magic, because magic is they want all guns to vanish.
00:29:23.000 But here's a real piece of paper.
00:29:24.000 Write down what you want to happen in the government, and I will go and institute it.
00:29:30.000 And I don't think they would know what to write.
00:29:33.000 No, they don't, because what's happened is the educational system has been completely destroyed.
00:29:38.000 People have no sense of how to look at a problem and think anymore.
00:29:42.000 And this goes through all the academics, right?
00:29:44.000 The academics, it's like, you know, the old story of, you know, Buddha, who tells about the king who brings in the six blind men to touch an elephant.
00:29:52.000 And one guy touches a tail and he thinks it's a brush.
00:29:55.000 The other guy touches a tusk.
00:29:56.000 He thinks it's a spear.
00:29:57.000 The other guy touches the side.
00:29:58.000 All of these people look at problems in this very reductionist way.
00:30:02.000 Right.
00:30:02.000 Because they're basically morons, most of these politicians, right?
00:30:06.000 So they look at a problem and want to find whatever piece they can, hang on to it, and then sell it through their political consultants.
00:30:14.000 That's what they do because they don't know how to solve a problem.
00:30:17.000 The real issue, if you want to talk about violence, is that when you, you know, I literally took the spreadsheet that I found on a site, Gavin, with all the issues that are taking place.
00:30:27.000 Well, here's a real issue.
00:30:29.000 Well, you have kids who have no family support anymore, right?
00:30:32.000 There's no mentors, any of these things.
00:30:34.000 A lot of these kids were on psychotrophic drugs.
00:30:37.000 And there is a massive number of young people right now.
00:30:40.000 I mean, you look at the violence in these video games, they're significant.
00:30:44.000 And yes, you have the other issue.
00:30:47.000 And by the way, these are all really not the issues anyway, right?
00:30:52.000 And then you have the issue with the fact that there's a ton of laws on the books.
00:30:55.000 They don't even get enforced.
00:30:58.000 And then you have the fact that the way that guns are issued are quite arbitrary.
00:31:02.000 In the town I live in, Belmont, the police chief makes a decision.
00:31:05.000 I had a guy that was a Navy SEAL sharpshooter who went to get his gun license and he was denied it by the chief of police.
00:31:14.000 So the whole thing is freaking arbitrary.
00:31:16.000 There's no federated databases.
00:31:19.000 Google and Facebook do a better job at knowing what we're doing than this entire database system.
00:31:25.000 But the systemic issue here is that the founders of this country wanted to ensure that we could protect ourselves from the government.
00:31:33.000 They never sought a standing army.
00:31:35.000 In fact, they never even saw it a standing police force.
00:31:37.000 If you really want to follow that principle all the way through, I would argue all of us should be trained how to use weapons.
00:31:43.000 All of us.
00:31:44.000 We should all have access to the local armory.
00:31:47.000 And the police force and the military should be a standing militia, should be a people's base militia.
00:31:53.000 That's really the real solution to this.
00:31:55.000 You know what's confusing about all this, too, is young people, they surely you can see, like you do occupy Wall Street, you have no weapons.
00:32:03.000 You go there, the police just mace you, willy-nilly.
00:32:03.000 What happens?
00:32:07.000 You're the laughingstock.
00:32:08.000 You get beat up and sent home.
00:32:10.000 Then you have the Bundy Ranch where everyone shows up armed to the teeth and Obama's feds show up and go, uh, we're out.
00:32:19.000 And they leave.
00:32:20.000 Now the Bundies had to keep fighting lawfare, but there was no pepper spray in the ranchers' faces in that instance because they were armed.
00:32:28.000 Surely young people see that and they go, I want to be empowered.
00:32:32.000 Somehow the DNC has brainwashed these kids into wanting more regulation, wanting less power, wanting to be nanny stated.
00:32:42.000 It's really kind of impressive.
00:32:45.000 Yeah, well, look, it goes back to what Eisenhower said.
00:32:48.000 You know, I love Eisenhower and also like Fulbright.
00:32:51.000 Now, these guys were thinkers.
00:32:53.000 You know, one was Republican, one was Democrat.
00:32:55.000 It doesn't matter.
00:32:56.000 But Eisenhower clearly pointed out the notion of the military-industrial complex.
00:33:01.000 By the way, the original speech was supposed to say military-industrial academic complex.
00:33:06.000 The science advisor who was an MIT president removed the word academic, and 10 years later, Fulbright brought it up military-industrial academic complex, right?
00:33:14.000 There is a deep state, and that organization, led by both wings of both of these parties, in my opinion, basically believes in the centralization of power.
00:33:24.000 And that's fundamentally what's going on.
00:33:26.000 It's basically removing people's rights, which ultimately comes from decentralized local governance, you know, and in the issue with guns is local militia.
00:33:37.000 You know, everyday people don't want to go killing each other, right?
00:33:40.000 This is a nonsensical truth.
00:33:41.000 You know, people are armed.
00:33:43.000 They want to protect themselves.
00:33:45.000 These issues that we're seeing, you can get into conspiracy theories, but fundamentally, they're issues of individuals who are making these acts and how they got these weapons, some they should get or not get.
00:33:58.000 That's a completely different issue.
00:33:59.000 But it are individuals who are making these actions.
00:34:02.000 It's not like a collective people who want to go shoot up people.
00:34:07.000 But clearly, as you point out, Gavin, they're leveraging those issues to really go at the heart of the principles of the United States Constitution.
00:34:14.000 Right.
00:34:15.000 I mean, that's how America was founded.
00:34:16.000 A bunch of militias got together and kicked the British out.
00:34:19.000 It's frustrating watching all this happen because you realize the DNC, you know, they are big picture thinkers in one sense.
00:34:28.000 They go, what accrues the most power for me?
00:34:30.000 Like with healthcare, Obama said, all right, let's get everyone on my plan, and then we can control the money, we can control the insurance companies, we control this.
00:34:39.000 And now with this gun thing, they're going, we control the guns, we control everything.
00:34:43.000 And it seems like the right, their modus operandi, the good ones at least, the true paleocons, they want to give as much power to the people and away from the government as possible.
00:34:56.000 And maybe that will be our downfall because the ones who play Dirty Pool and accrue power end up with more power.
00:35:06.000 How do we win?
00:35:07.000 Well, I think the way is what I believe is total disorganization and decentralization.
00:35:13.000 Look, this is an interesting analogy.
00:35:15.000 When people go to India, Gavin, what's interesting, when people go to India, an interesting phenomenon, they don't understand it.
00:35:22.000 India is total organized chaos.
00:35:25.000 It's decentralized.
00:35:27.000 It's what we call in systems theory a self-organizing system.
00:35:30.000 Governments and people who want like centralization of power do not like decentralized systems because they cannot control it.
00:35:39.000 But wait, isn't India a complete mess with people?
00:35:42.000 It's a complete mess.
00:35:43.000 But what I'm trying to say is, if you look at traditional indigenous cultures, and we can talk more about this, right?
00:35:50.000 They were always decentralized, right?
00:35:52.000 And the founders knew that's where power laid, where you have local communities, people doing their own things in their local communities, right?
00:36:00.000 Local governance.
00:36:01.000 They never envisioned these massive big governments.
00:36:05.000 India is an interesting background because prior to British colonialism was just this all local, you know, hundreds of thousands of small villages that work together.
00:36:14.000 And then you had the centralization attempted.
00:36:17.000 But India has these two models going on.
00:36:19.000 One is this centralization and the other is in this other world of total decentralization.
00:36:24.000 So it's hard for people to understand it.
00:36:25.000 But the bottom line is those in power cannot understand decentralization.
00:36:32.000 Because they're Achilles' heel.
00:36:33.000 It's their arch enemy.
00:36:35.000 Yeah, they can't get their claws into it.
00:36:37.000 So the real solution to this is going back to the founding principles of all traditional cultures and indigenous people.
00:36:44.000 People want freedom, which is decentralization.
00:36:48.000 That you believe in people.
00:36:49.000 You see, these people, like Elizabeth Warren and others, think they know better.
00:36:53.000 But the reality is I know you know better, right?
00:36:55.000 The individual every day, think about your wife or friends that I know or anyone, right?
00:37:01.000 They solve a myriad of problems without government intervention.
00:37:03.000 They're making decisions for themselves.
00:37:05.000 They solve problems.
00:37:06.000 This notion that someone else from above is going to tell you what to do as though they know the complexity of what's occurring on the ground is completely not only hubris, but it's the ultimate of control, as you just said.
00:37:19.000 Yeah, it's playing God.
00:37:20.000 I think it's blasphemous.
00:37:22.000 It's saying, I'm better than you at you.
00:37:24.000 I'll control when you eat.
00:37:26.000 Yeah, I think you nailed it.
00:37:27.000 I think that is the secret here.
00:37:29.000 We are a decentralized culture in America.
00:37:32.000 We're meant to be little groups.
00:37:33.000 We're meant to be little communities.
00:37:35.000 We're meant to have the mom dealing with the local stop sign.
00:37:39.000 And we're getting away from that.
00:37:40.000 It's un-American.
00:37:41.000 It's not who we are.
00:37:42.000 And I see this at rallies when everyone's going, oh, that's assault.
00:37:46.000 Police, get the police.
00:37:47.000 Everyone wants the nanny state to come in.
00:37:50.000 And it's a dangerous trend because it's not how we got here.
00:37:54.000 Yeah, I mean, what's interesting, when I came here, I mean, I came here from India in 1970, in the 70s when I grew up in the public school systems, the teachers had a lot more power.
00:38:03.000 If they saw nonsense taking place, you know, they would deal with it, right?
00:38:07.000 You didn't have to have all this coming.
00:38:09.000 And you didn't have a lot.
00:38:10.000 I mean, I don't remember this kind of gun violence in the 70s, right?
00:38:13.000 You had the Vietnam War going on.
00:38:15.000 You have all sorts of stuff.
00:38:16.000 I don't remember this kind of gun violence taking place.
00:38:19.000 All of this has been perpetuated by the intervention of massive government creating all of these regulations, thinking everyone else is stupid.
00:38:28.000 And what they've created or want to create is the military-industrial academic complex at its height.
00:38:35.000 And that's what they're heading towards.
00:38:37.000 So what's great about the gun violence issue, Gavin, I think it's a great opportunity to say, you know what?
00:38:42.000 You're never going to be able to solve these problems because you don't know what the F you're really doing, right?
00:38:46.000 These problems are so complex.
00:38:48.000 You think you're going to be wiring it from top down?
00:38:52.000 There's no freaking way.
00:38:54.000 And that's what I think we're at.
00:38:55.000 You take the gun violence issue.
00:38:56.000 You brought up healthcare.
00:38:58.000 You go down the list of immigration.
00:39:00.000 All of these issues are complex systems issues.
00:39:02.000 You cannot solve them top down.
00:39:04.000 They have to go local again because people in their own intelligence can solve them.
00:39:09.000 I mean, every engineer knows is when a system becomes too complex, we call it becoming fragile, right?
00:39:15.000 A very complex system that's tightly coupled.
00:39:18.000 It's basic engineering systems theory.
00:39:20.000 It becomes so complex that one little thing, if you think one person is going to control it, it can.
00:39:28.000 So what you do, even in engineering systems, you localize it, right?
00:39:32.000 So you disperse the solution solving locally, because that's the only way to do it.
00:39:37.000 The systems are too freaking complex.
00:39:39.000 These idiots don't know that.
00:39:40.000 I mean, think about the politicians.
00:39:42.000 How many of them have any background in any sense of systems or plumbers or electricians or fix anything?
00:39:48.000 None of them.
00:39:49.000 None of them.
00:39:50.000 Yeah, so that's the problem.
00:39:52.000 You have lawyers, you have lobbyists, you have people who think the way the world is supposed to be, never ever having engaged in the real world.
00:40:00.000 So this is all theory to them.
00:40:02.000 And there's a big gap, right, between their understanding of what's going on and what the real solutions are.
00:40:10.000 So that's what I'm going to speak about at this event.
00:40:12.000 You know, take the discussion to a completely different level.
00:40:16.000 Yeah, I think we have a bunch of, we have mobs and mobs of people that are useful idiots for the DNC.
00:40:21.000 And the DNC wants nothing more than power.
00:40:24.000 And we have to shatter that power to get back to what makes America.
00:40:28.000 The funny thing is, Gavin, you bring up the Democrats.
00:40:32.000 I mean, Bernie Sanders goes to an event, and you saw that, right?
00:40:35.000 He's surrounded by guys carrying weapons.
00:40:37.000 He protects himself.
00:40:39.000 And the Democrats had control of the Congress, at least, the Congress, the Senate, and the executive branch, for at least two or three years.
00:40:46.000 What did they do?
00:40:46.000 Nothing.
00:40:47.000 So, you know, if they're going to try to blame Trump on this, they're completely insane or think they're going to get away with something.
00:40:54.000 This is a systemic issue that goes back to the fact that big government thinks it can control people, that it knows better, that people don't know better.
00:41:04.000 And that's fundamentally anti-American.
00:41:06.000 It's anti-human.
00:41:07.000 Too true.
00:41:08.000 Shiva, we're out of time.
00:41:10.000 We are going to keep checking in with you as we get closer to this election with Elizabeth Warren.
00:41:15.000 I'm feeling confident that she's going to be destroyed.
00:41:17.000 I think you destroyed her by demanding that DNA test.
00:41:20.000 That's a whole other subject, though.
00:41:23.000 I take total credit for that because, you know, when we say only a real Indian can defeat a fake Indian, Gavin, it's really hitting at the heart of all of these fake guys, Elizabeth Warren being sort of the face of it.
00:41:36.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:41:37.000 It's definitely a pattern with them.
00:41:38.000 All right, thanks for coming on the show.
00:41:39.000 Let's have you back soon.
00:41:41.000 Peace.
00:41:41.000 Be well.
00:41:42.000 Cheers.
00:41:46.000 This sort of goes with this pro-violence theme we've had on the show recently.
00:41:51.000 This is a lunatic meth head in Burger King.
00:41:54.000 Let's see how it's handled.
00:41:59.000 He's mad.
00:41:59.000 Hey, spray that shit, bitch.
00:42:01.000 Come on over here, you fat ass.
00:42:03.000 Bitch, you want some fucking shit?
00:42:05.000 You ain't got shit, bitch.
00:42:07.000 By the way, people who do drugs and booze, if you're watching the show, you're going to notice you get ailments after a while.
00:42:15.000 I've been on booze benders where I noticed that my knuckles are all bloody or something or I've sprained something.
00:42:20.000 That's God telling you to take it down a notch.
00:42:23.000 If you have a broken foot that's in a foot cast, maybe it's time not to be picking fights at Burger King and shoving the monitors off the counter.
00:42:32.000 Nature is trying to tell you that you need to slow down.
00:42:40.000 No, stop.
00:42:42.000 Let your foot heal.
00:42:46.000 Okay, I promise you, he says.
00:42:48.000 Now this kid has been in some fights.
00:42:51.000 Boom.
00:42:52.000 Great shot.
00:42:52.000 He's got a semi-concussion.
00:42:54.000 He's giving up for the next punch.
00:42:56.000 Beautiful left hook.
00:42:58.000 And he's down.
00:43:00.000 He's down.
00:43:02.000 And then the manager is smart about it.
00:43:04.000 He just puts his foot on him so he can't get up.
00:43:06.000 That's all you have to do to keep someone down.
00:43:09.000 We're done now.
00:43:11.000 Now this is annoying.
00:43:12.000 Now this woman shows up and she's excited about her taser.
00:43:15.000 And now she's zapping him.
00:43:18.000 Be careful.
00:43:19.000 Zappity zap.
00:43:21.000 Now that's giving him energy.
00:43:23.000 Oh, he gets another punch down.
00:43:28.000 Oh, she just tased him in the ear.
00:43:35.000 Actually, you know what?
00:43:36.000 Maybe the taser was a good idea.
00:43:38.000 Because it picked him up.
00:43:40.000 Stop, stop.
00:43:41.000 What's that?
00:43:43.000 Is that a wheelchair?
00:43:46.000 He rolled his wheelchair up to the door, got out, started bitching about them wrecking their Burger King, and then when they kick him out, he has to get his chair on the way out.
00:44:00.000 I love it.
00:44:01.000 He's got to get his wheelchair out of there so he can roll away.
00:44:05.000 So the woman was right.
00:44:07.000 Tase him to get off.
00:44:08.000 Don't stand on him and wait for the cops to come and then fill out paperwork and blah, blah, blah.
00:44:12.000 He's been tased out of there and knocked out.
00:44:15.000 The lesson is clear to this meth head.
00:44:17.000 Don't come back to this Burger King.
00:44:19.000 We handled our own business.
00:44:21.000 We didn't get the police involved.
00:44:22.000 That's how it should be.
00:44:24.000 Don't dial 911.
00:44:26.000 Just say, get off my lawn.
00:44:27.000 Oh, boy.
00:44:30.000 One, two, three.
00:44:34.000 Most definitely.
00:44:35.000 I live quiet.
00:44:37.000 Within the rocket hold to the tip-top.
00:44:39.000 Best alliance in the hip-hop.