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00:00:42.000That's Brown Sugar by the Rolling Stones.
00:00:45.000We'll be talking about that later on because according to USA Today, it is a remarkably offensive song that would never be made in 2018.
00:04:14.000And I had a great weekend with cops, by the way.
00:04:16.000I've got so many stories about my weekend that I'm just going to have to put it on my podcast.
00:04:21.000We had a big boat cruise, Proud Boys boat cruise, two major fights.
00:04:26.000And when my friends fight, by the way, it's sort of like lawyers just going through redlining a document.
00:04:33.000Like, you did this, on this day, we have to fight.
00:04:36.000And then they fight, and then they're friends.
00:04:38.000All right, let's sign this on the dotted headbutt, and we're good.
00:04:43.000I did an incredible speech, if I don't say so myself, where I avoided Maker's Mark.
00:04:49.000And I did a speech about how we won't capitulate.
00:04:52.000I talked about all our friends who are in prison.
00:04:53.000I went to Rikers Island, which I'll mention on the podcast.
00:04:58.000And I said that, you know, there's an inclination there to be anonymous and hide because false accusations are just as damaging as true accusations.
00:05:27.000How much would you give to come back to this day and unanonymously say, I am a proud Western show of this who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.
00:07:18.000They're much more acerbic with Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin and Dana Lash and gays, like Dave Rubin and Milo and Shadwick, because they're easier prey.
00:07:32.000And it's interesting that the second Milo's out of our sight and goes to get lunch, that's when he gets attacked by a mob who starts screaming Nazi at him and chases him out of the restaurant.
00:07:41.000I believe he had to leave his stuff at his table when he left.
00:09:32.000So your dad could show up for Thanksgiving just with a pound of foundation on and lipstick, and you wouldn't think that what he's doing is some sort of a gay thing.
00:09:43.000You just go, oh, dad's hiding his crow's feet with some good quality Mary Kay cosmetics.
00:10:47.000And the way they crap on them and say you're not allowed to do that is young people coming up with a new philosophy that involves more rules, less fun, less art.
00:11:11.000With The Dude Looks Like a Lady by Error Smith, although the song was co-written by the openly gay songwriter Desmond Child, that's not good enough in the media, like with some media coverage about Chelsea Manning, has kind of hammered home.
00:11:24.000All right, this is why millennials are dumb.
00:11:26.000So this song written by a gay man that just says that a dude looks like a lady, that's it.
00:11:33.000He doesn't say, dude looks like a lady and that sucks or anything like that.
00:11:38.000He's just noticing that a dude is dressed up as a chick and it's convincing because they were at a strip club and he didn't notice she was trans.
00:11:45.000By the way, what strip club were you at?
00:11:50.000That's the only place I've ever been where they do that.
00:11:52.000But anyway, it's not a negative song and but because it was used on Fox News to describe Chelsea Manning, then it is a politically incorrect song that would be wildly controversial today.
00:12:54.000Have you noticed the way whenever she talks about a black person or a woman, she has to add all these caveats like she's so woke and I don't want to disparage her.
00:13:02.000If it's a white straight male, she can just jump in and go, this song's disgusting and it's tone deaf.
00:14:00.000Like when Louis C.K. did that joke about how pedophiles must really enjoy it because they're going to ruin like five lives by touching a little boy.
00:15:04.000But listening, it's hard to get around the fact that her mentor was the guy that she was singing because this is another thing I've noticed with millennials is these disclaimers.
00:15:14.000Like when white males get up in college, they go, hey, I just want to say that obviously I'm coming from a place of privilege as a and they have to go through the whole list like able-bodied, heterosexual, middle-class white male.
00:15:27.000But that being said, and then they can say their sentence.
00:15:30.000They have to do an apology every time they open their mouths.
00:15:32.000And she has to do an apology every time she criticizes a song by a woman of color.
00:15:38.000So this song is Aaliyah testifying her love for R. Kelly, who was probably around 30 at the time.
00:17:42.000You can sort of do stuff if you don't stray too far from the reservation, excuse the pun, but you're not allowed to be something you're not on Halloween.
00:20:17.000I think he did all the work, got all the lyrics together, and then they just sat her down in front of a camera and they had to get their chick numbers up.
00:23:19.000I want to hear a song written from the perspective of Jack the Ripper.
00:23:23.000I want to hear a song written by the perspective of Charles Manson.
00:23:27.000That's why the Sopranos was so fascinating.
00:23:29.000They had a disgusting, ruthless murderer, Tony Soprano, and you're watching it and it's a very difficult situation.
00:23:37.000You end up kind of liking him, and you're disgusting it yourself for liking a murderer who cheats on his wife and has no scruples and fucking people over all the time.
00:23:48.000So like the Louis C.K. joke, this song has offensive lyrics and that is a crucial part of art.
00:23:55.000What kind of world do you want to live in where every musician is coming from of Jesus-like purity and just talking about totally truthful things about his life?
00:24:06.000You've just erased fiction from the entire canon of art.
00:25:24.000It's supposed to have an element of danger.
00:25:26.000I was looking at this book, this book on rebellion, and it had like bikers and it had punks and it was going back a half century of rebellion.
00:25:33.000And there was a lot of swastikas with bikers and stuff.
00:25:36.000And it wasn't like, I wanted six million Jews to die.
00:26:42.000So it's fetishization that a black guy in the Caribbean wants this black girl to be with him and not some rich white tourist who's at a resort?
00:27:14.000In their world, a black man cannot profess his love to a black woman on a Caribbean island.
00:27:21.000Black prostitute who's living in the streets of New York City, although it's quite complements how she's making a living for herself, it's really uncomfortable to hear Elton John say about these issues.
00:28:21.000This island boy wants to rescue a prostitute from the streets of New York and bring her back to the Caribbean and marry her and love her and have babies.
00:29:17.000Now, I remember being a kid, I used to go to Scotland every year and you'd get beat up and you'd have to fight all the time if you liked the wrong soccer team.
00:30:16.000And then she says, or probably the dude who did all the work here, says, perhaps the song was just trying to celebrate the ancient art of Kung Fu.
00:32:51.000The fact that it's not true is totally irrelevant to them.
00:32:55.000And the fact that it hurts the people, that it promotes racism, is also totally irrelevant to them.
00:33:01.000So the irony here is that I'm an egalitarian, I'm an anti-racist, I'm a pro-gay, pro-women's rights individual, the same punk rocker I was when I was 18.
00:33:12.000But now the Nazi skinheads I'm fighting are you social justice warriors!
00:34:54.000Yeah, I mean, I guess it's fair game because I, too, am a student.
00:34:57.000Okay, so all things, as a disclaimer, I blame the adults who are platforming him.
00:35:03.000Obviously, he is, I believe, 17 or 18.
00:35:07.000He's a high school senior, just went through a traumatic event.
00:35:12.000Although it is questionable how many of the people in actual shooting that he does know, because I know that there have been a lot of students like Aiden Minoff and Kyle Kashyav on Twitter who have been very vocal about who they knew, who passed away, and were posting things from memorials.
00:35:27.000And that wasn't really what David Hogg has been doing for the last few months.
00:35:30.000Instead, David Hogg has been organizing marches and spending his time anchoring CNN, more or less, for the last two months.
00:35:48.000Well, I mean, I think he's that shot's a pretty good example of why you never skip Arm Day at the gym.
00:35:54.000But okay, but realistically, I don't have a problem with these students who've just been through this traumatic event wanting to affect policy.
00:36:04.000However, I do have a problem and they're obviously using it to achieve.
00:36:09.000All they're doing is to achieve personal celebrity.
00:36:12.000So you had Kyle Kashin, who was in the White House, met with everyone from Nancy Pelosi to Chuck Schumer to Donald Trump himself.
00:36:20.000And, I mean, he was successful in basically ensuring that the Stop Violence Act made it into the omnibus spending package that was otherwise garbage, but he actually got something done.
00:36:59.000Well, I'm just mostly disturbed by the fact that adults are just platforming him.
00:37:04.000You know, you have someone like Brian Stelter at CNN, who's sort of supposed to be their media reporter, but also their personal ombudsman.
00:37:13.000And he's openly at this point saying, yeah, we're having these kids on to discuss policy, but we're not pushing back on the factual inaccuracies they're saying when they're just throwing around terms like assault rifle without knowing what it means because they're kids.
00:39:11.000They ban pro-life women from the women's march.
00:39:14.000They ban pro-gun people from all these Parkland things.
00:39:18.000Yet the numbers still destroy their numbers.
00:39:21.000The only way they can win is to rig the game.
00:39:23.000And I think David Hogg, I'm starting to think he might be a victim in the sense that this little boy is being trounced around for show, and they give him a book deal, and they tell him to say this and tell him to say that.
00:39:37.000This is like the Gerber baby running the country, basically.
00:39:40.000Yeah, no, I mean, they've let the inmates run the asylum, but worse than that, they're manipulating the inmates as, because here's the thing.
00:39:48.000CNN anchors who are supposed to be objective reporters can't just come out and say, maybe the Second Amendment isn't a right.
00:40:01.000So we're just going to let them speak as our proxies.
00:40:05.000And it's funny because I think, I mean, I'm someone who's always considered myself open to the idea of restrictions that are still constitutional.
00:40:14.000Like, for instance, the gun violence restraining order, which is something that Marco Rubio has been touting.
00:40:19.000So the gun violence restraining order would be a bill where if you are a family member or roommate or immediate neighbor of someone who has demonstrated clearly violent and threatening behavior, that you can temporarily file an injunction that would remove their right to have a gun.
00:40:40.000But it still is a court-ordered process, so there would be due process.
00:40:44.000So it still maintains the assumption that you have a Second Amendment right to own a gun, but that you can lose that right if you demonstrate X behavior.
00:40:54.000Now, that's something that I can get behind.
00:40:56.000However, when we're beginning to question, but why would you need a gun?
00:41:01.000I'm a woman who lives in south central Los Angeles.
00:41:03.000I can explain to you many reasons why one would need a gun.
00:41:08.000And then don't tell me that the conversation doesn't end with remove all weapons.
00:41:11.000When you have in London, Sadiq Khan, the mayor, saying, why would anyone ever carry a knife?
00:41:19.000There's no reason to ever carry a knife.
00:41:29.000Well, you know what else is going on here?
00:41:31.000And you see this all over modern pop culture now in general, social media, where women, for example, will shovel all this crap over the internet fence and say, screw you, you're a bastard.
00:43:36.000Toronto is the most diverse city in the world.
00:43:40.000Just kidding, that's not the breaking news.
00:43:42.000The breaking news is that terrorism is alive and well north of the border, and at least five people are dead after a rental truck smashed into them and killed them.
00:43:53.000This technique of using trucks is something that radical Islam has been calling for globally.
00:44:00.000It's published in all their magazines.
00:44:02.000They want you to use trucks to kill people.
00:44:04.000And Muslims are taking them up on their offer.
00:44:06.000Now, why is this becoming a problem in Toronto of all places?
00:44:10.000As I said last year, when your Muslim population is 10% or more, you have terrorism.
00:44:21.000And as it approaches and exceeds 10, it will approach and exceed more examples of terrorism.
00:44:27.000You know, multiculturalism has a point.
00:44:30.000Indians acquiesce into our culture and make for great immigrants.
00:44:35.000South African farmers would make for great immigrants.
00:44:38.000When they have the tenets of the Western world as parts of their belief, they thrive in the West, and we're happy to have them when they worship meritocracy and freedom.
00:44:48.000When they come from the dark ages and they put Islam above everything else, including their own families, hence the honor killings, then they're not welcome.