Kevin McAllister and Jack White pay homage to Led Zeppelin. Dana Lash and Nick Searcy join me on the show to discuss the mass shooting at a church in Charleston, South Africa, and why we need more guns in America.
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00:00:03.000Well, it's true that we love one another.
00:00:06.000I love Jack White like a little brother Well, Holly Live from New York Kevin McGuinness Jack, give me some money to pay my bill.
00:00:24.000All the bill will give you holly you've been using on pain bill.
00:00:27.000Jack, will you call me if you're able?
00:00:29.000I got your phone number written in the back of my bottle.
00:00:35.000Okay, the reason I chose that song was because it doesn't it sound like yesterday's song?
00:00:43.000Country-ish music, two people in love, singing that they love each other and talking in a sort of conversational way.
00:00:51.000So let's go back to yesterday's song, shall we?
00:02:11.000We're in a country of 320 million people.
00:02:13.000There's going to be some senseless massacres.
00:02:15.000I know I sound like Siddi Khan saying terrorism is just part and parcel of living in a big city, but in a country of 320 million, I mean, I think one of the worst massacres we ever had was the Bath High School massacre, and that was in 29.
00:02:28.000I forget how many were killed there, but it was all little kids.
00:05:17.000We were talking in a bar, and I said, I bet you if you went around and just talked to New Yorkers and said, what's communism, what's fascism, I bet you get a very broad definition of fascism that includes me and Hitler.
00:05:28.000And I bet for communism, it sounds optimistic and there won't be a lot of genocide or dead bodies discussed.
00:05:35.000They'll probably say it means sharing.
00:05:44.000But before anything, I want to start with Dana Lash and parenting and tell you why I chose this, why I chose this topic out of all the things I could have talked to Dana Lash about.
00:05:54.000Her oldest had to write a poem in the fashion of Where I'm From from George Ella Lyon for English.
00:06:00.000His teacher sent a note with his poem in clothes, graded 100.
00:06:06.000I'm going to set up a website for the show where you can start seeing these things.
00:06:10.000But check out her son writing about where he's from.
00:06:16.000And it's such a perfect response to the teacher's assignment that we can all hope as parents to get something like this.
00:06:25.000I am from Legos and lightsaber fights, from the mints in my grandfather's tan-seated van To his four-wheeler in the tall grass through the woods, to the garage, which smelled of oil and used power tools, past the heavy-hanging coats, to the fridge at the back of the laundry room.
00:06:39.000In the dark, quiet room as a storm rages outside, from eating chips on a brown couch to playing catch with my cousin.
00:06:45.000This is what we're going for as parents.
00:06:48.000This is our goal for our kids to think like this.
00:06:51.000I am from the garage where we would fill the alleyways with the sounds of bottle rockets.
00:06:55.000I'm from, I'm actually tearing up here.
00:06:58.000I'm from the shoes that squeak on the shiny gym floor, from our hamster that went 100 miles an hour on his wheel, to the earthquake in our city.
00:07:05.000I'm from the chicken at Hodaks, to my father's employees, to the discussions of work from my father's co-workers, sitting on metal chairs, observing the tall and worn-down buildings under the layers of gray clouds.
00:07:17.000It goes on like that, and it inspired me to contact Dana and say, come on the show.
00:07:22.000Let's not talk about guns and the blades and the same old thing.
00:08:52.000Like, I didn't, when I first had my first kid, I thought, oh, I'll be expected to make go-karts for the boys and dollhouses for the girls.
00:08:59.000But 80% of my parenting is now hearing silence and like a corrections officer going over to their cells and taking the contraband screen away.
00:09:10.000No, that's exactly what, that's exactly what it's like.
00:09:13.000In fact, you feel like a jailer in some respects.
00:09:15.000I want to make sure that they don't have, that they're not doing something that they're supposed to be.
00:09:19.000And the thing that really sucks is that they use the internet so much for research for school.
00:09:25.000And they actually, you know, they'll do Google Slides and they do all of this other stuff.
00:09:29.000My oldest son has like all these presentations that he has to do.
00:09:32.000And so if I see him on the internet, he's like, well, wait a minute, hold up.
00:09:36.000I know you said no internet, but I have to have the internet in order to do this project for school.
00:09:42.000So, and he's gotten really good at this.
00:09:44.000He'll say, I mean, I guess if you want to go and tell my teacher that I couldn't do the assignment because you banned me from the internet, I mean, I guess you'll have to send her so passively.
00:09:51.000I guess you'll have to send her an email tonight.
00:09:53.000And I was so excited when they learned to talk.
00:09:59.000Like last night I told my son, did you know your large intestines and your small intestines, if you were to stretch them out, it would go several miles?
00:10:14.000And then he looks it up and it's like 30 feet.
00:10:17.000So my authority had been usurped by this stupid Google machine.
00:10:21.000Your influence is diminished, which is kind of good and bad.
00:10:26.000It's bad because it can be diminished by corrupt influences, but it's also kind of a good thing because sometimes- I know, go figure.
00:10:37.000And the actual thing that they're debating this week in his group is gun control.
00:10:43.000And so he had this big conversation about it.
00:10:44.000And he told me a fact that simply wasn't true.
00:10:48.000And I always tell him, I said, you have to approach this with logic and reason because heaven knows that there are people who refuse to do that.
00:10:54.000And they will approach this with emotion and just hyperbole, everything else.
00:11:00.000So you have to make sure that you're coming to this conversation from a perspective of truth.
00:11:04.000And so I corrected him, and he argued with me about this.
00:11:08.000I thought, no, no, no, not in this house.
00:11:10.000And so that's when the internet completely confirmed it.
00:11:12.000And then I was apparently listed as one of the sources, one of the things that were looked up.
00:11:16.000So I just have that smug parenting moment.
00:11:19.000You know, that's really what we live for, the smugness, and then also every now and then, lightheartedly getting to embarrass your children.
00:11:25.000I mean, that's what really makes life great.
00:11:26.000Yeah, well, it's also, I mean, we live in a very liberal enclave here in New York, so I don't want to become the right-wing family.
00:11:32.000I don't want the kids to be ostracized, but I also don't want them to be taught lies.
00:11:37.000And even at church, at my church, they said they take a thing where they separate the kids only at certain times of the year, and the kids go to another area, like the little kids, so they won't bother.
00:11:48.000And in that little section, they were told about guns.
00:11:52.000It was on Martin Luther King's birthday, and they were told how evil they are.
00:11:55.000And the young volunteer there said, if only we could have a giant bonfire and burn all the guns, which, by the way, I don't know if you know what they're made of, but they're not known for starting fires.
00:12:13.000You know, you should have told your child, hey, bring up the fact that Martin Luther King Jr. tried to get a gun permit and was denied repeatedly because he wanted to protect his life from crazy big government far-left progressives.
00:12:31.000He was killed by a person, and he had a whole stockpile of guns at his home, which I assume were illegal because they kept refusing to give him a license.
00:12:40.000Yeah, and he had to because he kept having people come to his house, and they were trying to vandalize his home.
00:12:46.000They tried to burn down his house with him in it.
00:12:48.000So, yeah, it was very, I mean, he had legitimate threats upon his life.
00:12:51.000And I remember last year on Martin Luther King Jr.
00:12:54.000Day, I was telling my kids about this and said, so remember, if you're having a discussion and you feel it's important to bring this point up in class, you know, by all means, go ahead if you feel so inclined.
00:13:03.000So that's, you always have to combat that.
00:13:06.000I love, I mean, it's Texas and the schools down here are good.
00:13:09.000I think that they're good in terms of ideology and not shoving stuff down kids' throats because they really do encourage.
00:14:57.000But I was really impressed with him doing that.
00:15:00.000Isn't that an amazing time when your kids really, I mean, you know, we think our kids are great, but then there are these moments where they really, really impress us and they just blow our minds.
00:15:10.000And you think that has to do with way more than just me.
00:15:13.000Yeah, there's something fishy going on upstairs with these kids.
00:15:17.000Well, you know, parenting isn't even close to what I thought it would be.
00:15:20.000It's telling the kids that, you know, I was watching a baseball dock with my boy the other day and they're talking about this Japanese pitcher.
00:15:26.000And then they go, and that's what's so great about globalism.
00:15:55.000I mean, when I was in high school, that's just, that's when the AOL chat rooms were hot, you know?
00:16:00.000I mean, and you thought you were like totally BA if you were able to get into an AOL chat room and throw a little code in and have a theme song play as you entered.
00:16:07.000I mean, that was just really what it was all about.
00:16:11.000But when you're, you know, a 14, 15 year old, that's amazing.
00:16:15.000And, but we didn't have, like, that was before we had all the microblogging.
00:16:20.000And it was before we really had social media.
00:16:22.000So we didn't have our lives lived on Instagram and Facebook and Tumblr and Twitter, et cetera, et cetera, Snapchat.
00:16:28.000So now kids, that whole sphere of influence has increased for them.
00:16:32.000See, with us, it was just really, it was television and it was comics and books and in our classroom.
00:16:39.000Now it's all of that plus this hyper, you know, the reality world in which we live that's broadcast on television, the materialism and excess that's sold on social media, the immorality that's sold on social media, the political brainwashing that's sold on social media.
00:16:56.000And they get this every single day and it's incredibly clever in the deceptive way that it's presented to kids.
00:17:01.000What I think our side in terms of being ideologically limited government and pro-individualism, I think that that has, we have been really, really good than any previous generation of combating that in both an academic and entertainment space because we get it.
00:17:18.000Politics are downstream from culture, as my really good friend Andrew Breitbart once said.
00:17:22.000We're realizing that and we're finally pushing back.
00:17:25.000So even though it feels like the world's just going to hell around us, I do feel a little optimistic in that I can see some of the benefits of that pushback.
00:17:34.000I mean, Gavin, look at what's going on in Hollywood right now with everything coming forward.
00:18:00.000They can go to a number of different places.
00:18:02.000And they can get either a different viewpoint that will help balance out the progressive one they've gotten through all of these other mediums, or they can get, and this is a shocker, actual information that's just the facts jack, and they can process it on their own and determine from that what their opinion is going to be.
00:20:09.000Because you talk to someone like Stossel or people in news media, and if they are the only ones at ABC who are remotely right-wing, they're pariahs.
00:20:18.000But I bet Hollywood actors are too big of a pussy to ever say anything and would just rather talk privately in their trailer than actually say something to your face.
00:20:30.000I mean, one of the last projects I worked on, you know, I think they didn't know who I was right away, or at least they didn't know maybe my political affiliations or whatever.
00:20:39.000And so during the first couple of days, there was a lot of chatter about politics because it was just assumed that everybody was on the same page.
00:20:48.000And then a couple of days later, I didn't really say anything because I don't, you know, I don't engage with people at work.
00:21:40.000I mean, was there more of a balance, say, in your off-Broadway days in New York?
00:21:45.000Yeah, you know, it wasn't this ridiculous when I started out.
00:21:48.000I didn't even really, I wasn't even that political, you know, when I first started out.
00:21:53.000And also, I kind of got my film career going in North Carolina.
00:21:58.000Did some roles that were there and then sort of had my big break in a movie Fried Green Tomatoes that sort of made a big splash.
00:22:05.000But, you know, being in North Carolina, there's much more mix of like, you know, not all the actors in North Carolina are Democrats, you know.
00:22:14.000So I think by the time I had my career going and had actually moved to Los Angeles, I didn't know I was supposed to keep my mouth shut.
00:22:23.000I didn't know that it was a bad thing to be who I am in Hollywood.
00:22:27.000And so by the time I figured it out, it was too late and everybody already knew.
00:22:35.000Well, I noticed you're in this new movie, Best of Enemies, where you're the wealthy leader of the White Citizens Council, which sounds like the Council of Conservative Citizens a little bit there.
00:22:46.000It can't be a coincidence they cast you as this evil, racist, rich guy.
00:22:52.000Well, the movie's also set in North Carolina.
00:22:55.000I mean, that's part of why they cast me.
00:22:58.000But, you know, when my agent called me about this role, he said, you know, I know you have a black son and everything.
00:23:04.000You know, do you really want to do this?
00:23:05.000And I said, you know, my son knows that I've played Democrats before.
00:23:25.000Didn't you see what happened with American Sniper?
00:23:27.000Why do you keep digging yourself, not you, but them, a financial grave with all this dumb, like Matt Damon doing a movie about fracking or Will Smith talking about how evil football is?
00:23:41.000You know, I think part of it is that they're, you know, they're all trying to impress each other and they're selling their movies to each other.
00:23:49.000So they're kind of, it's kind of like the healthcare system where the cost is not transferred to the right people.
00:24:28.000And that's why it's so hard for independent films, you know, like Gosnell, like the one that I've directed that hasn't come out yet.
00:24:34.000If you don't have your distribution deal in place to begin with, it's hard to get one, especially if you're cutting against the grain of the Hollywood political biosphere.
00:24:45.000Well, that's what seems to be happening with Gosnell.
00:24:47.000I'm glad we segued smoothly into this.
00:24:50.000This was finished a long time ago, right?
00:24:52.000Yeah, the last time I talked to you was two years ago.
00:25:24.000One of the reasons abortion is such a hot topic is a lot of these women who have a voice, who are pundits, who are writing about it and who are voting, had an abortion, and they are just racked with guilt.
00:25:38.000So they want to make it seem okay so the nightmares will stop.
00:26:08.000Why not murder everybody that disagrees with you politically if there's no higher power?
00:26:14.000If there's no hell, there's no heaven.
00:26:15.000Yeah, and I've actually heard a lot of these atheists, I'm sure they're atheists, but these British academics and even American academics take that same logic and say a baby that's 11 months old is no different from a chimp.
00:26:29.000In fact, any factor you could come up with to make it human, a chimp could do.
00:26:32.000So you could technically kind of murder the baby or let's say have an abortion up until, say, 11 months after the baby's born.
00:26:42.000Yeah, well, I've always advocated up until age 18.
00:26:45.000You know, because they can really be a big problem.
00:27:09.000Yeah, the whole question of when life begins is, you know, it's unanswerable, really.
00:27:17.000Except, I mean, if you try to pick a point and say, oh, it begins when they're 11 months old, you know, none of it makes any sense after that.
00:27:45.000Of course, you know, there's always the limitations of budget and time, and you go, wow, I wish I could have gotten this shot or I wish I could have gotten that.
00:27:53.000But, you know, I'm the only one who sees that.
00:27:55.000The people watching the movie don't know what I didn't get.
00:27:58.000So, you know, what we got in the film is a really compelling movie that tells the story in a fast-paced and entertaining way.
00:28:08.000And it's also a film that, you know, it's not so grotesque that you can't sit through it.
00:28:42.000Well, keep us posted on it, Nick, and secretly send me the Vimeo link with the password so I can watch it and tell other people what it's like.
00:28:51.000When the producers give me one, I'll send it to you.
00:33:21.000Depending on how you define it and the nuance that you draw between socialism and communism, I mean, we could spend hours talking about it.
00:33:28.000But communism, in general, I associate it with trying to maintain equality both as far as economics, but as far as quality of life goes among the general population.
00:33:40.000So if I am fortunate in my luck and you are not, then I will give up some of the expert that I have in order to help you.
00:34:41.000You were speaking to the Japanese about the need for further workforce participation for women, and that's consistent with the theme that you've been.
00:35:21.000And on top of, since the beginning of the administration, I've got three daughters and a son, so I'm paying attention to the numbers on this.
00:35:29.000And it seems like in this country anyway, the crisis is among boys.
00:35:42.000By every measurable metric, women are doing better.
00:35:46.000But they keep ignoring these facts or twisting them.
00:35:49.000I remember reading once, I think it was Hillary Clinton that said this, that war is harder on women because they lose their sons and their husbands and then they're stranded out there.
00:35:58.000Sorry, having your head blown off is worse than having hunger pains.
00:36:24.000But while women comprise 47% of the workforce, we are very underrepresented in fields that will be critically important when you think about the jobs of the future.
00:36:57.000So they are penetrating sanitation, but no one says this about the NBA.
00:37:02.000No one says we need more George Costanza-looking dudes shooting hoops.
00:37:06.000It's inconceivable to her that men might be better at tech.
00:37:10.000So she has to go in and meddle to all the fun jobs or the jobs that she deems important or crucial, as she put it, and make sure those are 50-50.
00:37:19.000Everything fun or crucial has to be 50-50.
00:37:23.000You look at the technology industry, we represent 21% of people in tech.
00:37:33.000Why do all these women have to be working?
00:37:35.000This is a rich chick, a rich chick with round-the-clock nannies and giant mansions telling all these women they need to be in the workforce to generate more money.
00:38:02.000The average American family spends almost 30% of pre-tax income on the cost of child care.
00:38:08.000So the I'm just going to stop it right there.
00:38:12.000This is the same old feminist claptrap you get from the DNC.
00:38:16.000And I think the impetus is these globalists, these big corporations that want more people in the workforce because they want to generate more income.
00:38:24.000She talks about how the tax plan is good for the family, but her ideology sounds pretty bad for the family.
00:38:30.000It sounds pretty good for single moms.
00:38:33.000It sounds like a pretty good incentive to fracture a family, but it's not pro-family.
00:38:56.000And I was really impressed by Crowder's interview with this Guy, the hero who chased him down, shot at him, the Texas massacre hero Stephen Williford.
00:39:06.000And it reminded me that in the media here, our obligation is to focus on the victims of these shootings, to focus on the heroes who did it, and to play down as much as possible these human garbage vermin who commit these acts.
00:39:22.000Because I'm sick of the way we all glorify them by constantly talking about them all the time.