Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - November 08, 2017


Get Off My Lawn #26 | Fatal Error


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554

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Kevin McAllister and Jack White pay homage to Led Zeppelin. Dana Lash and Nick Searcy join me on the show to discuss the mass shooting at a church in Charleston, South Africa, and why we need more guns in America.

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00:00:03.000 Well, it's true that we love one another.
00:00:06.000 I love Jack White like a little brother Well, Holly Live from New York Kevin McGuinness Jack, give me some money to pay my bill.
00:00:24.000 All the bill will give you holly you've been using on pain bill.
00:00:27.000 Jack, will you call me if you're able?
00:00:29.000 I got your phone number written in the back of my bottle.
00:00:35.000 Okay, the reason I chose that song was because it doesn't it sound like yesterday's song?
00:00:43.000 Country-ish music, two people in love, singing that they love each other and talking in a sort of conversational way.
00:00:51.000 So let's go back to yesterday's song, shall we?
00:00:54.000 Listen to this now.
00:00:55.000 Who's that money?
00:00:57.000 She gets it on like the Easter bunny.
00:01:00.000 She's my baby.
00:01:02.000 I'm her honey.
00:01:03.000 I'm never gonna let her go.
00:01:05.000 He ain't got late in a month of Sundays.
00:01:11.000 Caught him once and he was sniffing my undies.
00:01:14.000 He ain't too sharp, but he gets...
00:01:18.000 Now play the other song again.
00:01:26.000 Well, it's true that we love one another.
00:01:29.000 I love Jack White like a little brother.
00:01:33.000 All right, that's enough.
00:01:34.000 It's an homage.
00:01:35.000 That's not a ripoff.
00:01:37.000 I'll tell you, I'll play another ripoff tomorrow.
00:01:39.000 Burt Janch.
00:01:42.000 Led Zeppelin totally ripped him off.
00:01:44.000 A Scottish, a fellow Scotsman.
00:01:46.000 Now, that's a bloody ripoff.
00:01:48.000 This is an homage.
00:01:50.000 Front page of the post, we still got the same guy.
00:01:52.000 Fatal error.
00:01:54.000 Military fell up, allowed killer to buy guns.
00:01:56.000 I'm bored of this already.
00:01:58.000 He was an atheist.
00:01:59.000 If he did it because he hated Christians, that's terrorism.
00:02:02.000 Stop talking about background checks and how it could have been prevented.
00:02:06.000 That's not the solution.
00:02:08.000 The solution is more guns.
00:02:10.000 And you know what?
00:02:11.000 We're in a country of 320 million people.
00:02:13.000 There's going to be some senseless massacres.
00:02:15.000 I know I sound like Siddi Khan saying terrorism is just part and parcel of living in a big city, but in a country of 320 million, I mean, I think one of the worst massacres we ever had was the Bath High School massacre, and that was in 29.
00:02:28.000 I forget how many were killed there, but it was all little kids.
00:02:31.000 One of the worst things ever.
00:02:33.000 Do not Google it.
00:02:34.000 But that wasn't guns.
00:02:35.000 That was dynamite.
00:02:37.000 We have a jam-packed show for you tonight.
00:02:40.000 I'm going to be on ITV if you're in Britain.
00:02:43.000 ITV has this segment called On Assignment.
00:02:45.000 ITV is the private company in Britain, not BBC, not government-funded news.
00:02:51.000 But I'm doing a thing there tonight on satire in the age of Trump, which with Graydon Carter and big names.
00:02:58.000 And I'm one of the only right-wing guys, so we'll see if it's a hit piece.
00:03:03.000 I remain optimistic.
00:03:05.000 Although the guy who did it was a raging liberal.
00:03:07.000 He lived in Johannesburg and didn't own a gun.
00:03:10.000 His neighbours were killed.
00:03:12.000 And he goes, I think one of the reasons I did so well is that I...
00:03:17.000 He had more of a Scottish English accent.
00:03:19.000 I think one of the reasons I did so well is I wasn't armed.
00:03:22.000 Because when you're armed, they have no choice but to shoot you.
00:03:27.000 Interesting attitude, sir.
00:03:28.000 It did well for the people at the church.
00:03:30.000 So I've got Dana Lash on the show to discuss not guns, not the shooting, not that she's ending four years at the Blaze, but parenting.
00:03:41.000 When I have a guest on, sometimes I want to do something new and not the same old regurgitated talking points we see every time.
00:03:48.000 And speaking of regurgitated talking points, I'm going to get inside my TV and bitch about Ivanka Trump. 1.00
00:03:57.000 I haven't criticized anything remotely Trump for a year and I'm done.
00:04:01.000 I'm not done with Trump, but I'm done being a good guy, being fiercely loyal.
00:04:06.000 I've had enough of this advisor to the president.
00:04:09.000 And you know how when you're watching TV and you want to crawl into it and say something?
00:04:13.000 I did.
00:04:14.000 And you'll see that live on this show.
00:04:16.000 And speaking of live, it's 8 p.m.
00:04:18.000 You have one hour left to elect Nicole Mulatakis. 1.00
00:04:22.000 I hope that's your name.
00:04:24.000 And stop the re-election of Bill de Blasio here in New York City.
00:04:28.000 It's not going to happen.
00:04:29.000 But we can dream, right?
00:04:30.000 They said Trump wasn't going to happen.
00:04:33.000 We also have Nick Searcy on the show.
00:04:35.000 You may remember him as Chief Deputy United States Marshal Art Mullen on FX is Justified, for which he won a Peabody.
00:04:42.000 And I'm going to ask him what we all want to know, which is how are you surviving?
00:04:46.000 He's a sane guy.
00:04:48.000 He did the Gosnell movie.
00:04:50.000 Two years ago, I spoke to him about this movie.
00:04:52.000 Now, this movie investigates an abortion doctor who committed hundreds, I'm going to say, hundreds of third trimester abortions.
00:05:01.000 And it gave the nurses PTSD.
00:05:03.000 They're having to kill these fetuses. 1.00
00:05:05.000 So he did a great movie about it with Phelan McCaller, and there was all kinds of trouble with the funding.
00:05:09.000 And now that it's done, no distributors want to go near it.
00:05:12.000 So I'm going to ask him about that and how a conservative survives in Hollywood.
00:05:15.000 I also got my buddy Alex on the show.
00:05:17.000 We were talking in a bar, and I said, I bet you if you went around and just talked to New Yorkers and said, what's communism, what's fascism, I bet you get a very broad definition of fascism that includes me and Hitler.
00:05:28.000 And I bet for communism, it sounds optimistic and there won't be a lot of genocide or dead bodies discussed.
00:05:35.000 They'll probably say it means sharing.
00:05:37.000 So he did that.
00:05:39.000 And not to give it away, but of course we were right.
00:05:42.000 It's New York City.
00:05:44.000 But before anything, I want to start with Dana Lash and parenting and tell you why I chose this, why I chose this topic out of all the things I could have talked to Dana Lash about.
00:05:54.000 Her oldest had to write a poem in the fashion of Where I'm From from George Ella Lyon for English. 0.54
00:06:00.000 His teacher sent a note with his poem in clothes, graded 100.
00:06:04.000 And this poem is so good.
00:06:06.000 I'm going to set up a website for the show where you can start seeing these things.
00:06:10.000 But check out her son writing about where he's from.
00:06:16.000 And it's such a perfect response to the teacher's assignment that we can all hope as parents to get something like this.
00:06:25.000 I am from Legos and lightsaber fights, from the mints in my grandfather's tan-seated van To his four-wheeler in the tall grass through the woods, to the garage, which smelled of oil and used power tools, past the heavy-hanging coats, to the fridge at the back of the laundry room.
00:06:39.000 In the dark, quiet room as a storm rages outside, from eating chips on a brown couch to playing catch with my cousin.
00:06:45.000 This is what we're going for as parents.
00:06:48.000 This is our goal for our kids to think like this.
00:06:51.000 I am from the garage where we would fill the alleyways with the sounds of bottle rockets.
00:06:55.000 I'm from, I'm actually tearing up here.
00:06:58.000 I'm from the shoes that squeak on the shiny gym floor, from our hamster that went 100 miles an hour on his wheel, to the earthquake in our city.
00:07:05.000 I'm from the chicken at Hodaks, to my father's employees, to the discussions of work from my father's co-workers, sitting on metal chairs, observing the tall and worn-down buildings under the layers of gray clouds.
00:07:17.000 It goes on like that, and it inspired me to contact Dana and say, come on the show.
00:07:22.000 Let's not talk about guns and the blades and the same old thing.
00:07:26.000 I want to hear about you being a mom.
00:07:32.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Nationally Syndicated Talk Radio host, TV commentator, and spokesperson for the NRA, Dana Lash.
00:07:39.000 Dana, are you there?
00:07:41.000 I am, Gavin.
00:07:41.000 Good to be with you.
00:07:42.000 Thanks for having me.
00:07:43.000 Thanks for coming on.
00:07:44.000 I've been trying to get you for a while.
00:07:46.000 Now, you're the top gun expert I know.
00:07:48.000 You seem to be the most well-versed in this subject, but I am sick of talking about this.
00:07:54.000 We covered it yesterday with John Lott for like 40 minutes.
00:07:58.000 And he's fantastic, by the way.
00:07:59.000 He is a walking encyclopedia.
00:08:01.000 He is so great.
00:08:02.000 He's so knowledgeable.
00:08:04.000 He's so calm.
00:08:06.000 Yeah, I don't think he gets upset.
00:08:09.000 I don't know how he feels about guns.
00:08:11.000 I mean, he never expressed it.
00:08:12.000 He's only talked about it.
00:08:15.000 He just goes, well, that's one theory.
00:08:17.000 My research says, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:08:20.000 Take it as you will.
00:08:21.000 He doesn't sleep.
00:08:22.000 All he does is blink and research.
00:08:24.000 That's it.
00:08:24.000 It's like that SpongeBob episode where Squidward tells SpongeBob to forget everything except breathing and fine dining.
00:08:29.000 John Lott can only remember breathing and research.
00:08:33.000 When I think of my interviews with him, I just see the sun in the background, then it's dark out, then it's sunny out.
00:08:38.000 I think he just sees the sun as a planet that moves around in the background once he talks.
00:08:42.000 I agree.
00:08:43.000 I agree.
00:08:45.000 But what I do want to talk to you about, and no one ever talks to you about this, is parenting.
00:08:50.000 Oh, wow.
00:08:51.000 I am upset.
00:08:52.000 Like, I didn't, when I first had my first kid, I thought, oh, I'll be expected to make go-karts for the boys and dollhouses for the girls.
00:08:59.000 But 80% of my parenting is now hearing silence and like a corrections officer going over to their cells and taking the contraband screen away.
00:09:09.000 Yep.
00:09:10.000 No, that's exactly what, that's exactly what it's like.
00:09:13.000 In fact, you feel like a jailer in some respects.
00:09:15.000 I want to make sure that they don't have, that they're not doing something that they're supposed to be.
00:09:19.000 And the thing that really sucks is that they use the internet so much for research for school.
00:09:25.000 And they actually, you know, they'll do Google Slides and they do all of this other stuff.
00:09:29.000 My oldest son has like all these presentations that he has to do.
00:09:32.000 And so if I see him on the internet, he's like, well, wait a minute, hold up.
00:09:36.000 I know you said no internet, but I have to have the internet in order to do this project for school.
00:09:42.000 So, and he's gotten really good at this.
00:09:44.000 He'll say, I mean, I guess if you want to go and tell my teacher that I couldn't do the assignment because you banned me from the internet, I mean, I guess you'll have to send her so passively.
00:09:51.000 I guess you'll have to send her an email tonight.
00:09:53.000 And I was so excited when they learned to talk.
00:09:56.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:09:57.000 Yeah, they are getting too smart too.
00:09:59.000 Like last night I told my son, did you know your large intestines and your small intestines, if you were to stretch them out, it would go several miles?
00:10:06.000 And he goes, no.
00:10:08.000 And I go, yeah, I think I've even, maybe it can go all the way to the moon, I think I heard.
00:10:12.000 And he goes, no, not even close.
00:10:14.000 And then he looks it up and it's like 30 feet.
00:10:17.000 So my authority had been usurped by this stupid Google machine.
00:10:21.000 Your influence is diminished, which is kind of good and bad.
00:10:26.000 It's bad because it can be diminished by corrupt influences, but it's also kind of a good thing because sometimes- I know, go figure.
00:10:37.000 And the actual thing that they're debating this week in his group is gun control.
00:10:43.000 And so he had this big conversation about it.
00:10:44.000 And he told me a fact that simply wasn't true.
00:10:48.000 And I always tell him, I said, you have to approach this with logic and reason because heaven knows that there are people who refuse to do that.
00:10:54.000 And they will approach this with emotion and just hyperbole, everything else.
00:11:00.000 So you have to make sure that you're coming to this conversation from a perspective of truth.
00:11:04.000 And so I corrected him, and he argued with me about this.
00:11:08.000 I thought, no, no, no, not in this house.
00:11:09.000 Go look it up.
00:11:10.000 And so that's when the internet completely confirmed it.
00:11:12.000 And then I was apparently listed as one of the sources, one of the things that were looked up.
00:11:16.000 So I just have that smug parenting moment.
00:11:19.000 You know, that's really what we live for, the smugness, and then also every now and then, lightheartedly getting to embarrass your children.
00:11:25.000 I mean, that's what really makes life great.
00:11:26.000 Yeah, well, it's also, I mean, we live in a very liberal enclave here in New York, so I don't want to become the right-wing family.
00:11:32.000 I don't want the kids to be ostracized, but I also don't want them to be taught lies.
00:11:37.000 And even at church, at my church, they said they take a thing where they separate the kids only at certain times of the year, and the kids go to another area, like the little kids, so they won't bother.
00:11:48.000 And in that little section, they were told about guns.
00:11:52.000 It was on Martin Luther King's birthday, and they were told how evil they are.
00:11:55.000 And the young volunteer there said, if only we could have a giant bonfire and burn all the guns, which, by the way, I don't know if you know what they're made of, but they're not known for starting fires.
00:12:07.000 Yeah, I know.
00:12:08.000 That doesn't really work that way.
00:12:10.000 I mean, unless you want to blow a lot of stuff up.
00:12:12.000 That doesn't really work that way.
00:12:13.000 You know, you should have told your child, hey, bring up the fact that Martin Luther King Jr. tried to get a gun permit and was denied repeatedly because he wanted to protect his life from crazy big government far-left progressives.
00:12:24.000 I did.
00:12:24.000 I mean, you have to do that.
00:12:25.000 You have to sort of take off your glasses and go, all right.
00:12:28.000 Yeah, he wasn't killed by a gun.
00:12:31.000 He was killed by a person, and he had a whole stockpile of guns at his home, which I assume were illegal because they kept refusing to give him a license.
00:12:40.000 Yeah, and he had to because he kept having people come to his house, and they were trying to vandalize his home.
00:12:46.000 They tried to burn down his house with him in it.
00:12:48.000 So, yeah, it was very, I mean, he had legitimate threats upon his life.
00:12:51.000 And I remember last year on Martin Luther King Jr.
00:12:54.000 Day, I was telling my kids about this and said, so remember, if you're having a discussion and you feel it's important to bring this point up in class, you know, by all means, go ahead if you feel so inclined.
00:13:03.000 So that's, you always have to combat that.
00:13:06.000 I love, I mean, it's Texas and the schools down here are good.
00:13:09.000 I think that they're good in terms of ideology and not shoving stuff down kids' throats because they really do encourage.
00:13:15.000 I love our school.
00:13:16.000 I love our school because it's almost in a way, it's like Ronald Reagan came in and built it.
00:13:21.000 Oh, you're right.
00:13:22.000 And it's just, I know.
00:13:23.000 I wanted to go here.
00:13:24.000 I mean, one of the first things that I did when we went and talked to the principal, I was asking about the security situation.
00:13:29.000 And the principal said, well, you know, I just built my own AR-15.
00:13:33.000 It's here under the desk.
00:13:35.000 You know, if you want to see it.
00:13:37.000 I looked at my husband.
00:13:37.000 I said, can we come to this school?
00:13:39.000 I really, I really want to enroll as a student.
00:13:42.000 I'll even pay a higher rate.
00:13:43.000 I don't care.
00:13:44.000 So it's a nice Christian school.
00:13:46.000 And I love it.
00:13:47.000 I mean, I love the kids' school and I love the teachers.
00:13:49.000 And I love the fact that they don't think, if nobody's a freak there because everybody's a freak, I guess.
00:13:55.000 So it's great.
00:13:56.000 And I'm very thankful for that.
00:13:58.000 But even then, every now and then, though, you still get a little bit because it's just how much culture has corrupted.
00:14:04.000 It has corrupted academia.
00:14:06.000 It has corrupted youth.
00:14:08.000 And every now and then, something will slip in.
00:14:11.000 And I don't really, my boys are pretty set in their worldview.
00:14:16.000 It's not like we shoved anything down their throats, but this is a house of truth and logic and reason.
00:14:21.000 And that's exactly how we present it to them.
00:14:23.000 And you can't argue against irrefutable truth.
00:14:26.000 And so they have taken that to their classrooms as well.
00:14:28.000 And not a lot slips by.
00:14:30.000 They always get the highest marks in classroom discussions.
00:14:33.000 So that makes me a proud mama.
00:14:36.000 I saw that little poem he wrote, and it was disturbing.
00:14:38.000 It was so good.
00:14:39.000 It was creepy.
00:14:40.000 Right?
00:14:40.000 It was like Damien or something.
00:14:42.000 And I framed it.
00:14:44.000 It was amazing.
00:14:45.000 I was so, you know, I'm not like a crier or anything, but I was moved to where I was bawling my eyes out.
00:14:53.000 I know, it's happening.
00:14:54.000 It's wet here.
00:14:56.000 So bad.
00:14:57.000 But I was really impressed with him doing that.
00:15:00.000 Isn't that an amazing time when your kids really, I mean, you know, we think our kids are great, but then there are these moments where they really, really impress us and they just blow our minds.
00:15:10.000 And you think that has to do with way more than just me.
00:15:13.000 Yeah, there's something fishy going on upstairs with these kids.
00:15:17.000 Well, you know, parenting isn't even close to what I thought it would be.
00:15:20.000 It's telling the kids that, you know, I was watching a baseball dock with my boy the other day and they're talking about this Japanese pitcher.
00:15:26.000 And then they go, and that's what's so great about globalism.
00:15:30.000 And I'm going, what the?
00:15:32.000 You injected globalism into this documentary about the Mets?
00:15:35.000 So we're policing all this information, telling them Martin Luther King wasn't killed by a gun, blah, blah, blah.
00:15:42.000 So the work is different, but the rewards are still the same.
00:15:46.000 The rewards are still them doing this incredible stuff and making you so happy that you had them.
00:15:51.000 Well, and they do well in spite of all of the stuff thrown at them.
00:15:54.000 It's not easy to be a kid nowadays.
00:15:55.000 I mean, when I was in high school, that's just, that's when the AOL chat rooms were hot, you know?
00:16:00.000 I mean, and you thought you were like totally BA if you were able to get into an AOL chat room and throw a little code in and have a theme song play as you entered.
00:16:07.000 I mean, that was just really what it was all about.
00:16:10.000 That's really dorky.
00:16:11.000 But when you're, you know, a 14, 15 year old, that's amazing.
00:16:15.000 And, but we didn't have, like, that was before we had all the microblogging.
00:16:20.000 And it was before we really had social media.
00:16:22.000 So we didn't have our lives lived on Instagram and Facebook and Tumblr and Twitter, et cetera, et cetera, Snapchat.
00:16:28.000 So now kids, that whole sphere of influence has increased for them.
00:16:32.000 See, with us, it was just really, it was television and it was comics and books and in our classroom.
00:16:39.000 Now it's all of that plus this hyper, you know, the reality world in which we live that's broadcast on television, the materialism and excess that's sold on social media, the immorality that's sold on social media, the political brainwashing that's sold on social media.
00:16:56.000 And they get this every single day and it's incredibly clever in the deceptive way that it's presented to kids.
00:17:01.000 What I think our side in terms of being ideologically limited government and pro-individualism, I think that that has, we have been really, really good than any previous generation of combating that in both an academic and entertainment space because we get it.
00:17:18.000 Politics are downstream from culture, as my really good friend Andrew Breitbart once said.
00:17:22.000 And it's true. 0.56
00:17:22.000 We're realizing that and we're finally pushing back. 0.56
00:17:25.000 So even though it feels like the world's just going to hell around us, I do feel a little optimistic in that I can see some of the benefits of that pushback.
00:17:34.000 I mean, Gavin, look at what's going on in Hollywood right now with everything coming forward.
00:17:38.000 People are not tolerating it anymore.
00:17:40.000 And a lot of, even though there's a lot of mainstream media bias out there, you also have shows like yours.
00:17:45.000 And you have new media that's been able to push back and hold accountable all of this.
00:17:50.000 And people aren't dumb.
00:17:51.000 They know that they can go and get their information from more than just NBC Nightly News.
00:17:56.000 They know they can go to CRTV, Conservative Review.
00:18:00.000 They can go to IJR.
00:18:00.000 They can go to a number of different places.
00:18:02.000 And they can get either a different viewpoint that will help balance out the progressive one they've gotten through all of these other mediums, or they can get, and this is a shocker, actual information that's just the facts jack, and they can process it on their own and determine from that what their opinion is going to be.
00:18:18.000 So it's a different ballgame.
00:18:19.000 Well, the establishment has become the media, has become the liberals, and kids are naturally rebellious.
00:18:25.000 So maybe they'll rebel against this dogma, this mainstream garbage that they're being fed.
00:18:31.000 No, I hope so.
00:18:33.000 And I think that they are.
00:18:34.000 I think they are rebelling against it.
00:18:35.000 And I think it helps when they see their parents rebelling against it.
00:18:38.000 You know, just ever so politely, but ever so consistently.
00:18:42.000 That's a great example for them to have.
00:18:44.000 Great.
00:18:44.000 Well, you're an inspiration, Dana, and you're an inspiration to your kids.
00:18:47.000 And I hope you can survive this brutal cold wave sweeping through your town.
00:18:52.000 Oh, however, I declare, however, will I Leo?
00:18:56.000 You guys have to come down to Texas and have some family range day.
00:19:00.000 Oh, I would love to be around sane people.
00:19:01.000 Just try it.
00:19:02.000 Just once.
00:19:03.000 Come to America, Gavin.
00:19:07.000 Thanks for coming on.
00:19:08.000 Good to see you.
00:19:09.000 Thanks so much.
00:19:10.000 Polly.
00:19:10.000 There won't be anything left for anybody else.
00:19:17.000 How do you survive down there with those lunatics?
00:19:22.000 You know, it's very relaxing.
00:19:24.000 I have my friends and my family.
00:19:27.000 You know, I work when I want To pretty much, and I don't have to have that much contact with them, and vice versa.
00:19:37.000 Well, is it possible they just see you as a method actor and you're pretending you're like Daniel Day Lewis?
00:19:44.000 You don't really believe all this stuff, you're just getting into the role.
00:19:48.000 Yeah, no, I don't think they see me that way.
00:19:53.000 You know, the thing that's funny is like when I'm on set or when I'm actually at work, there is no problem.
00:19:59.000 I mean, everybody gets along fine.
00:20:02.000 It's all this sort of chatter that goes on when you're not there.
00:20:07.000 That's interesting.
00:20:09.000 Because you talk to someone like Stossel or people in news media, and if they are the only ones at ABC who are remotely right-wing, they're pariahs.
00:20:18.000 But I bet Hollywood actors are too big of a pussy to ever say anything and would just rather talk privately in their trailer than actually say something to your face.
00:20:29.000 You know, it's funny.
00:20:30.000 I mean, one of the last projects I worked on, you know, I think they didn't know who I was right away, or at least they didn't know maybe my political affiliations or whatever.
00:20:39.000 And so during the first couple of days, there was a lot of chatter about politics because it was just assumed that everybody was on the same page.
00:20:48.000 And then a couple of days later, I didn't really say anything because I don't, you know, I don't engage with people at work.
00:20:54.000 That's not what I'm there for.
00:20:55.000 We're there to make a show or whatever.
00:20:57.000 And so a couple of days later, I guess they figured it out because all of that stopped.
00:21:02.000 They just don't engage with me about that.
00:21:07.000 You've got your peabody.
00:21:09.000 Maybe you're at a level where everyone around you is sort of less accomplished and doesn't want to rock the boat.
00:21:14.000 Well, and plus I have that old thing going for me.
00:21:18.000 I'm older than they are most of the time.
00:21:20.000 So they're going to go, that old guy, let him go, think what he wants.
00:21:26.000 They sort of have some respect for me because of that.
00:21:30.000 Now, you're a North Carolinian.
00:21:33.000 You lived in New York for a long time.
00:21:35.000 You've been doing this for a few years now.
00:21:38.000 Has it always been this ridiculous?
00:21:40.000 I mean, was there more of a balance, say, in your off-Broadway days in New York?
00:21:45.000 Yeah, you know, it wasn't this ridiculous when I started out.
00:21:48.000 I didn't even really, I wasn't even that political, you know, when I first started out.
00:21:53.000 And also, I kind of got my film career going in North Carolina.
00:21:58.000 Did some roles that were there and then sort of had my big break in a movie Fried Green Tomatoes that sort of made a big splash.
00:22:05.000 But, you know, being in North Carolina, there's much more mix of like, you know, not all the actors in North Carolina are Democrats, you know.
00:22:14.000 So I think by the time I had my career going and had actually moved to Los Angeles, I didn't know I was supposed to keep my mouth shut.
00:22:23.000 I didn't know that it was a bad thing to be who I am in Hollywood.
00:22:27.000 And so by the time I figured it out, it was too late and everybody already knew.
00:22:33.000 And so I just rolled into it.
00:22:35.000 Well, I noticed you're in this new movie, Best of Enemies, where you're the wealthy leader of the White Citizens Council, which sounds like the Council of Conservative Citizens a little bit there.
00:22:46.000 It can't be a coincidence they cast you as this evil, racist, rich guy.
00:22:52.000 Well, the movie's also set in North Carolina.
00:22:55.000 I mean, that's part of why they cast me.
00:22:58.000 But, you know, when my agent called me about this role, he said, you know, I know you have a black son and everything.
00:23:04.000 You know, do you really want to do this?
00:23:05.000 And I said, you know, my son knows that I've played Democrats before.
00:23:09.000 I can play one again.
00:23:11.000 Beautiful.
00:23:12.000 Well, that's the part I don't get.
00:23:14.000 And I always ask this to actors, you have all these liberals everywhere.
00:23:17.000 Sure, fine.
00:23:18.000 But a country like America is inevitably going to be 50-50.
00:23:23.000 Don't you want money?
00:23:25.000 Didn't you see what happened with American Sniper?
00:23:27.000 Why do you keep digging yourself, not you, but them, a financial grave with all this dumb, like Matt Damon doing a movie about fracking or Will Smith talking about how evil football is?
00:23:38.000 Don't you want to make a profit?
00:23:41.000 You know, I think part of it is that they're, you know, they're all trying to impress each other and they're selling their movies to each other.
00:23:49.000 So they're kind of, it's kind of like the healthcare system where the cost is not transferred to the right people.
00:23:58.000 You know, they don't pay a price.
00:24:00.000 They just got their movie made.
00:24:01.000 They got paid.
00:24:02.000 The box office doesn't really matter to the people who made the movie.
00:24:06.000 It matters to the people funding it.
00:24:09.000 And so they're just trying to impress each other with their like-minded politics, I think.
00:24:15.000 But surely they're not going to get a distributor if they've got some terrible movie about why we need more refugees or something. 0.98
00:24:22.000 Well, most of these movies have distributors before they make them.
00:24:26.000 I mean, that's part of the deal.
00:24:28.000 And that's why it's so hard for independent films, you know, like Gosnell, like the one that I've directed that hasn't come out yet.
00:24:34.000 If you don't have your distribution deal in place to begin with, it's hard to get one, especially if you're cutting against the grain of the Hollywood political biosphere.
00:24:45.000 Well, that's what seems to be happening with Gosnell.
00:24:47.000 I'm glad we segued smoothly into this.
00:24:50.000 This was finished a long time ago, right?
00:24:52.000 Yeah, the last time I talked to you was two years ago.
00:24:54.000 I was just remembering.
00:24:55.000 I was in Oklahoma City shooting the movie.
00:24:58.000 So it's been two years since we shot it.
00:25:01.000 And to be honest, I really don't have any news about it because I'm not involved in that end of it.
00:25:08.000 I'm not a producer on the film.
00:25:10.000 I just directed it.
00:25:11.000 So I don't really know why.
00:25:13.000 I don't know what's happening with it, and I don't know when it's going to come out.
00:25:17.000 I think distributors are scared.
00:25:19.000 And they're scared because abortion is a hot topic.
00:25:21.000 And I have a new theory that's controversial.
00:25:23.000 What about this?
00:25:24.000 One of the reasons abortion is such a hot topic is a lot of these women who have a voice, who are pundits, who are writing about it and who are voting, had an abortion, and they are just racked with guilt.
00:25:38.000 So they want to make it seem okay so the nightmares will stop.
00:25:42.000 Yeah, you know, that could be.
00:25:47.000 I'm not sure.
00:25:48.000 I'm not comfortable sort of trying to determine their psyche like that.
00:25:53.000 But I think that my theory about it has always been it's a God thing.
00:26:00.000 You know, if you really don't believe in a higher power, then pretty much anything goes.
00:26:06.000 I mean, you can do anything you want.
00:26:08.000 Why not murder everybody that disagrees with you politically if there's no higher power?
00:26:14.000 If there's no hell, there's no heaven.
00:26:15.000 Yeah, and I've actually heard a lot of these atheists, I'm sure they're atheists, but these British academics and even American academics take that same logic and say a baby that's 11 months old is no different from a chimp. 0.88
00:26:29.000 In fact, any factor you could come up with to make it human, a chimp could do. 1.00
00:26:32.000 So you could technically kind of murder the baby or let's say have an abortion up until, say, 11 months after the baby's born.
00:26:42.000 Yeah, well, I've always advocated up until age 18.
00:26:45.000 You know, because they can really be a big problem.
00:26:47.000 I've raised a bunch of them.
00:26:49.000 Well, that's the problem with their heartless logic, though, is they drive themselves into these weird alleyways of justification.
00:26:57.000 And the next thing you know, they're talking about murdering tons of babies.
00:27:00.000 And then, you know, they can murder some Nazis and murder some revolutionaries, anyone they don't like. 0.67
00:27:05.000 They can burn some books.
00:27:07.000 It's all the same.
00:27:09.000 Yeah, the whole question of when life begins is, you know, it's unanswerable, really.
00:27:17.000 Except, I mean, if you try to pick a point and say, oh, it begins when they're 11 months old, you know, none of it makes any sense after that.
00:27:26.000 Yeah.
00:27:27.000 Have you, you've seen Gosnell?
00:27:29.000 You've seen it edited?
00:27:30.000 You've watched it?
00:27:32.000 Yeah.
00:27:34.000 I've seen it edited, yeah.
00:27:37.000 It wasn't my edit, but you know, I've seen the final version.
00:27:41.000 And are you happy with it?
00:27:43.000 Yeah, I'm pretty happy with it.
00:27:45.000 Of course, you know, there's always the limitations of budget and time, and you go, wow, I wish I could have gotten this shot or I wish I could have gotten that.
00:27:53.000 But, you know, I'm the only one who sees that.
00:27:55.000 The people watching the movie don't know what I didn't get.
00:27:58.000 So, you know, what we got in the film is a really compelling movie that tells the story in a fast-paced and entertaining way.
00:28:08.000 And it's also a film that, you know, it's not so grotesque that you can't sit through it.
00:28:14.000 I mean, that was important to me.
00:28:16.000 You know, I didn't want to make a film that nobody under the age of 18 could see.
00:28:22.000 You know, I wanted to make a film that, you know, told a very grim story, but didn't shock you with the blood.
00:28:30.000 Yeah, well, that's the challenge when you're talking about third trimester abortions. 0.74
00:28:34.000 Yeah.
00:28:35.000 Well, Nick, I hope you.
00:28:36.000 It's very disturbing.
00:28:38.000 Don't get me wrong, but it's just not gory.
00:28:40.000 Right.
00:28:41.000 It's a disturbing subject.
00:28:42.000 Well, keep us posted on it, Nick, and secretly send me the Vimeo link with the password so I can watch it and tell other people what it's like.
00:28:51.000 When the producers give me one, I'll send it to you.
00:28:53.000 Beautiful.
00:28:55.000 Thanks for coming to the show, Nick.
00:28:56.000 Best of luck with everything you're doing.
00:28:58.000 Good to talk to you again.
00:28:59.000 Secure until we break your foot.
00:29:04.000 Where the two of you cut it out?
00:29:07.000 Today I'm going to be asking people to define two words for me, fascism and communism.
00:29:12.000 Fascism, I think, is like ignorant racism towards another people for whatever political reason and or monetary reason.
00:29:22.000 Trump.
00:29:23.000 Okay.
00:29:24.000 Hitler. 0.57
00:29:25.000 Extreme right-wing style of politics where people are dictated to by the government.
00:29:32.000 I haven't really heard that word before.
00:29:34.000 It is a limiting of freedom of thought, a limiting of autonomy, whether it be logistical, political, or even emotional.
00:29:44.000 Fascism is a system of government that kind of oppresses people and they don't have the freedom to express themselves.
00:29:54.000 Fascism seems to relate to a type of government of the people under which it's an interesting word.
00:30:18.000 My brain is on other things.
00:30:20.000 What do you think of when you hear the word fascist?
00:30:24.000 image.
00:30:25.000 That's a brilliant...
00:30:30.000 One has a sense of fascism when you think of Hitler and Mussolini.
00:30:35.000 Essentially, anyone who wants to impose their viewpoint upon the whole and are saying don't do anything else.
00:30:43.000 That's a pretty easy way of talking about it.
00:30:47.000 That's fascism.
00:30:48.000 Communism is a little bit more complicated and complex.
00:30:53.000 Well, that's a tricky thing to define.
00:30:57.000 Well, I've heard it something like has to do with politics, maybe?
00:31:03.000 Communism, I think, is a parallel to socialism.
00:31:05.000 I think they're both the same thing, and it's a farce.
00:31:08.000 I don't even think, I don't want to go there, but I don't even think democracy exists anymore.
00:31:13.000 I think this is a communist country.
00:31:14.000 It was an attempt to give people the ability to work together, to build together, but it too became a dictatorship, unfortunately.
00:31:26.000 It often has to do with the people in power.
00:31:28.000 It's human beings.
00:31:29.000 It's not the system that gets corrupt.
00:31:32.000 Marx was talking about a utopian society that we could reach very quickly where we all share in the ownership of the goods and services.
00:31:44.000 I think communism is supposed to mean to spread all the wealth to everybody equally for the common good.
00:31:53.000 It's a type of government that wants to have everybody have everything that everyone else has.
00:32:03.000 Communism is what you learn in kindergarten.
00:32:08.000 You know, pretty much how to share.
00:32:11.000 People would have more say in things that's going on around them.
00:32:15.000 Essentially, everyone is equal.
00:32:20.000 Everyone is equal except for the leader of the pack.
00:32:25.000 That's what I can remember.
00:32:27.000 Yeah, I don't want to get politically incorrect, man.
00:32:32.000 There's many terms here, I mean, there's many, you know, uh...
00:32:45.000 It seems people either don't really know what fascism is or they have a very negative view of it, which is understandable.
00:32:52.000 The interesting thing is when it comes to communism, people tend to think it's kind of a cool thing.
00:32:58.000 We're just sharing, it's just equality.
00:33:00.000 What's wrong with that?
00:33:01.000 You don't want to share and be equal?
00:33:03.000 What are you, a monster?
00:33:04.000 What are you, a fascist?
00:33:07.000 A form of socialism where there's a small group of people that are managing things and will be forceful in forcing rules.
00:33:16.000 Could you please define communism for you?
00:33:20.000 That's complicated.
00:33:21.000 Depending on how you define it and the nuance that you draw between socialism and communism, I mean, we could spend hours talking about it.
00:33:28.000 But communism, in general, I associate it with trying to maintain equality both as far as economics, but as far as quality of life goes among the general population.
00:33:40.000 So if I am fortunate in my luck and you are not, then I will give up some of the expert that I have in order to help you.
00:33:47.000 Back to you, Gavin.
00:33:48.000 Music.
00:34:01.000 I've been a loyal Trumper for a year now.
00:34:03.000 I haven't criticized him at all, but I'm done.
00:34:06.000 I'm not done with Trump, but I'm done with not criticizing him because of this woman, Ivanka Trump, his daughter.
00:34:13.000 His daughter is listed as an advisor to the president.
00:34:16.000 That embarrasses me.
00:34:18.000 I'm embarrassed that she's going around the world.
00:34:20.000 Some guy's daughter?
00:34:21.000 A monarchy?
00:34:21.000 What is this?
00:34:22.000 Is this Princess Ivanka?
00:34:24.000 No.
00:34:25.000 And if she said sane things, if she said reasonable things, it would be a lot less embarrassing.
00:34:31.000 It would still be embarrassing because we didn't vote for you.
00:34:33.000 But she's not.
00:34:34.000 She's saying the same old DNC talking points about women in the workforce.
00:34:39.000 Check her out on Tucker last night.
00:34:41.000 You were speaking to the Japanese about the need for further workforce participation for women, and that's consistent with the theme that you've been.
00:34:49.000 This is a thing Ivanka was pushing. 0.53
00:34:51.000 She considered following Daddy to Japan so she could tell more women that they need to be in the workforce. 1.00
00:34:57.000 Because even though Japan has a pretty much zero birth rate these days, it's not reproducing.
00:35:03.000 Women are spinsters over there. 1.00
00:35:05.000 They're not getting married.
00:35:06.000 They're not caring about relationship or communities or families or anything.
00:35:10.000 No, what's important is we get them on the factory floors.
00:35:13.000 We get them in tech.
00:35:14.000 We get them working more.
00:35:15.000 That's what's important in Japan and in the world.
00:35:19.000 Thanks, Ivanka.
00:35:21.000 And on top of, since the beginning of the administration, I've got three daughters and a son, so I'm paying attention to the numbers on this.
00:35:29.000 And it seems like in this country anyway, the crisis is among boys.
00:35:32.000 Correct.
00:35:33.000 Girls graduate from college in much higher numbers.
00:35:36.000 They die from drug ODs at much lower rates.
00:35:39.000 Same with suicide.
00:35:40.000 I said this on Fox once.
00:35:42.000 By every measurable metric, women are doing better. 0.96
00:35:46.000 But they keep ignoring these facts or twisting them.
00:35:49.000 I remember reading once, I think it was Hillary Clinton that said this, that war is harder on women because they lose their sons and their husbands and then they're stranded out there. 0.84
00:35:58.000 Sorry, having your head blown off is worse than having hunger pains.
00:36:04.000 The majority of managers are women. 0.88
00:36:06.000 it really seems like the problem is not women in the united states and i wonder if you think that's a wrong analysis or I do.
00:36:16.000 Certainly the problems you noted are broader than economic problems.
00:36:20.000 So those may be individual to boys.
00:36:24.000 But while women comprise 47% of the workforce, we are very underrepresented in fields that will be critically important when you think about the jobs of the future.
00:36:36.000 Yeah, that's BS.
00:36:38.000 When feminists say that, and feminists say that a lot, what they mean is fun jobs. 1.00
00:36:43.000 We hear that women need to be directors more. 1.00
00:36:45.000 Women need to be in action movies more. 1.00
00:36:47.000 We don't hear about sanitation more or unfun jobs.
00:36:51.000 Actually, here in New York, the person who runs sanitation here is a woman. 1.00
00:36:56.000 It's affirmative action higher. 0.51
00:36:57.000 So they are penetrating sanitation, but no one says this about the NBA.
00:37:02.000 No one says we need more George Costanza-looking dudes shooting hoops.
00:37:06.000 It's inconceivable to her that men might be better at tech.
00:37:10.000 So she has to go in and meddle to all the fun jobs or the jobs that she deems important or crucial, as she put it, and make sure those are 50-50. 0.61
00:37:19.000 Everything fun or crucial has to be 50-50.
00:37:23.000 You look at the technology industry, we represent 21% of people in tech.
00:37:28.000 So?
00:37:32.000 Why is that a problem?
00:37:33.000 Why do all these women have to be working? 1.00
00:37:35.000 This is a rich chick, a rich chick with round-the-clock nannies and giant mansions telling all these women they need to be in the workforce to generate more money. 1.00
00:37:45.000 Ever heard of a family lady? 1.00
00:37:49.000 We're 13% of engineers, so we have to change that.
00:37:52.000 And I think that our tax plan takes a big step in terms of helping the American family with the high cost of raising children.
00:38:00.000 You just said the opposite.
00:38:02.000 The average American family spends almost 30% of pre-tax income on the cost of child care.
00:38:08.000 So the I'm just going to stop it right there.
00:38:12.000 This is the same old feminist claptrap you get from the DNC. 1.00
00:38:16.000 And I think the impetus is these globalists, these big corporations that want more people in the workforce because they want to generate more income.
00:38:24.000 She talks about how the tax plan is good for the family, but her ideology sounds pretty bad for the family.
00:38:30.000 It sounds pretty good for single moms. 1.00
00:38:33.000 It sounds like a pretty good incentive to fracture a family, but it's not pro-family.
00:38:38.000 I gotta get out of this TV.
00:38:40.000 Music.
00:38:53.000 That's it, folks.
00:38:54.000 No more talk about this guy.
00:38:56.000 And I was really impressed by Crowder's interview with this Guy, the hero who chased him down, shot at him, the Texas massacre hero Stephen Williford.
00:39:06.000 And it reminded me that in the media here, our obligation is to focus on the victims of these shootings, to focus on the heroes who did it, and to play down as much as possible these human garbage vermin who commit these acts.
00:39:22.000 Because I'm sick of the way we all glorify them by constantly talking about them all the time.
00:39:27.000 Let's talk about Americans.
00:39:28.000 Let's talk about what really matters.
00:39:30.000 Let's talk about family, and let's talk about anyone who opposes those getting off my lawn.
00:39:35.000 Well, Holly, I love you too.