Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - November 13, 2017


Get Off My Lawn #28 | Breaking News


Episode Stats

Length

39 minutes

Words per Minute

169.31122

Word Count

6,637

Sentence Count

607

Misogynist Sentences

24

Hate Speech Sentences

23


Summary

It's Father's Day, which means it's time to talk about all things dad. This week's episode features a tribute to the late, great Billy Bragg, who died at the age of 95, and a story about a man in Russia who has been in jail for a crime he did not commit.


Transcript

00:00:09.000 Well live from New York, it's Get Off My Lock with Kevin McGinnis.
00:00:17.000 If I came home too proud of myself, I could wrestle to the foreign choice.
00:00:26.000 But I forgive him for that.
00:00:29.000 He was an eighth grade dropout, and I was being a brat.
00:00:35.000 I forgive my...
00:00:37.000 Huh?
00:00:41.000 Son Kilmoon from the Bay Area, guy from Red House Painters, I think.
00:00:46.000 That song is called I Love My Dad.
00:00:48.000 He's an amazing guy, that musician, Sun Kill Moon.
00:00:51.000 I think he invented a new type of music.
00:00:54.000 He invented sort of mumbly talk, mumble core, where he just, a lot of this stuff doesn't rhyme.
00:01:01.000 He just goes, and I went over to my friend's house and we said hi to my sister.
00:01:06.000 And we had crab cakes.
00:01:09.000 Had crab cakes.
00:01:12.000 Great Sunday music.
00:01:14.000 And that's a great dad song.
00:01:16.000 Speaking of dad songs, that's one of my top three.
00:01:19.000 Here's my other two.
00:01:20.000 The Streets, Mike Skinner.
00:01:22.000 We never went to church.
00:01:26.000 If you were still about, I'd ask you what I'm supposed to do now.
00:01:32.000 I just get a bit scared now.
00:01:36.000 I hope I'll make you proud.
00:01:39.000 On your birthday, when mum passed the forks and spoons, I'll put my head on the table and I sewed this drawer with you.
00:01:46.000 You tidy your things into the bin, the more poorly you grew.
00:01:49.000 So there's nothing of yours to hold or to talk to.
00:01:52.000 I guess this seen how dad threw all his stuff in the garbage.
00:01:55.000 We never went to church.
00:01:58.000 And here's another great British dad jam.
00:02:01.000 I can't wait for my dad to die so I can be the dead dad guy.
00:02:04.000 You know that guy?
00:02:05.000 Hey, what's up?
00:02:06.000 My dad just died.
00:02:07.000 Yeah.
00:02:08.000 Oh, thanks.
00:02:09.000 Yeah, I will have a beer.
00:02:10.000 You know, just listening to Sun Kill Moon and then the streets and Billy Bragg standing in a park looking at the waves crash against the rocks because I'm the dead dad guy.
00:02:19.000 It's a little bit of a consolation after your parents pass away that you get to be melodramatic and people go, are you okay?
00:02:25.000 you go, I wouldn't hate a blowjob.
00:02:27.000 I wouldn't hate a blowjob.
00:02:28.000 I wouldn't hate a blowjob.
00:02:48.000 Tree taps on a window pane.
00:02:51.000 That feeling smothers me again.
00:02:55.000 Breaking news in the post.
00:02:57.000 Trump admin, no AT ⁇ T, time orner deal, unless you dump CNN.
00:03:03.000 Not sure I support that, Donnie, but I like it.
00:03:07.000 I like seeing CNN suffer.
00:03:08.000 This is what I think is going on with Fox News, by the way, guys.
00:03:11.000 This is a gossip.
00:03:12.000 I think that the Murdoch, Rupert, wants to sell Sky News and Fox News together.
00:03:17.000 Sky News is 20 billion.
00:03:18.000 Fox News is $4 billion.
00:03:20.000 There's some rule in Britain that's not unlike this where you can't do a media merger if there's a contentious property.
00:03:26.000 Like you couldn't sell 50 websites if one of them was Daily Stormer.
00:03:30.000 So by that law, the Fox is the Daily Stormer to them.
00:03:33.000 So Rupert sent his boys in.
00:03:36.000 James said, can you just gut the whole thing?
00:03:38.000 Make it into milquetoast.
00:03:39.000 Get rid of O'Reilly.
00:03:40.000 Shut Red Eye.
00:03:42.000 Get rid of Hannity.
00:03:43.000 If you can find some sexual harassment thing or with him or Tucker, get rid of those guys.
00:03:47.000 And they just had something in the news the other day where they said Tucker had violated the standards and practices by having biased news.
00:03:54.000 Tucker's not news.
00:03:56.000 The news is in the morning.
00:03:57.000 The opinion shows are in the evening.
00:03:59.000 The Rachel Maddows are in the evening.
00:04:02.000 Anyway, we got a very fun show for you today.
00:04:04.000 We have a libertarian in Russia who's struggling to survive there.
00:04:09.000 He's actually in with the government right now being interrogated.
00:04:13.000 We got him just before he was picked up.
00:04:14.000 He went to some conference, Adam Smith conference, and was arrested for it.
00:04:18.000 So we'll talk to him.
00:04:20.000 You're talking to a prisoner.
00:04:22.000 I don't know if he's in jail right now, but he's in some sort of interrogation right now.
00:04:25.000 And then I'm going to step inside my TV and tell you about a movie last night I saw called Wind River, which I was not a fan of.
00:04:33.000 And my wife and I are fighting about it now.
00:04:36.000 I'm going to talk about sweaters.
00:04:37.000 I don't believe in them.
00:04:39.000 And I was on ITV, the British.
00:04:42.000 It's actually pretty cool.
00:04:42.000 ITV is private.
00:04:44.000 It's not like the government ones.
00:04:46.000 So we'll talk about that.
00:04:47.000 They gave me fair...
00:04:49.000 Fair shrout, fair shake, fair.
00:04:51.000 They covered me fairly.
00:04:54.000 And then we'll end it with the shockingly gorgeous Roaming Millennial.
00:05:00.000 I mean, she is so beautiful, she's a freak.
00:05:03.000 It's like she's a burn victim.
00:05:05.000 I bet if she walked into a party room, we'd go, yeah, because we're going to make it.
00:05:09.000 Hello?
00:05:10.000 Like, it would be the same as Rocky Dennis or the elephant man walking into a room.
00:05:16.000 She probably makes little babies cry.
00:05:17.000 She's too pretty.
00:05:19.000 But before we get to any of that, I want to talk about what's hot in the news.
00:05:23.000 Three things.
00:05:24.000 First was USA Today wants you to know that guns can be very dangerous because of all the stuff you can do to them.
00:05:31.000 For example, did you know you can put a chainsaw on them?
00:05:36.000 Were you aware of that?
00:05:37.000 Dave, you got any of those pictures?
00:05:39.000 It's actually true, by the way.
00:05:41.000 You can put a chainsaw on a gun.
00:05:46.000 Yeah, there we go.
00:05:46.000 So that's the base model.
00:05:48.000 You can have a handguard, 30-round magazine, trigger.
00:05:51.000 They come with triggers, thanks.
00:05:54.000 But aftermarket, there's some common, some rare.
00:05:59.000 Now, we looked up this chainsaw thing, and it's beyond rare.
00:06:05.000 It's a novelty thing that one guy had at a gun show as a joke that says zombie on the side.
00:06:09.000 You might as well say there's a helmet that has a chainsaw on it, or you can buy chainsaw shoes.
00:06:14.000 It's clearly not a pattern.
00:06:16.000 But look at, yeah, that's the guy's.
00:06:18.000 Panacea Zombie X chainsaw.
00:06:21.000 It's like $700.
00:06:23.000 I bet no one has actually done it.
00:06:25.000 It's too expensive of a joke.
00:06:27.000 It's a $700 joke.
00:06:28.000 But to USA Today and to the Left.
00:06:30.000 All these guns are the same.
00:06:31.000 Do you have any more funny ones, Dave?
00:06:33.000 Because it took off across the net.
00:06:35.000 Oh, yeah, we can get a dildo on there.
00:06:38.000 What else?
00:06:39.000 Oh, you could put an AK-40.
00:06:41.000 You could put an AR-15 as a mod on your AR-15.
00:06:45.000 The Death Star was a popular one.
00:06:47.000 That one did really well.
00:06:49.000 What's that one?
00:06:50.000 Oh, a Leaf Blower.
00:06:51.000 I hate Leaf Blowers, by the way.
00:06:53.000 Just use a rake for crying out loud.
00:06:54.000 Stop blowing them back and forth.
00:06:56.000 It's just a party.
00:06:58.000 The only people that like leaves blowers are leaves.
00:07:02.000 So that went on and on, and that was hilarious.
00:07:04.000 And look, I don't know that much about guns.
00:07:06.000 I don't talk about guns.
00:07:07.000 I don't know about football.
00:07:08.000 I don't talk about football.
00:07:09.000 But the left is so arrogant that they tell you about communism and economics and the health care plan and guns and what guns will be like.
00:07:17.000 And they're just so easy to mock.
00:07:20.000 We also had Stephen Colbert in the news because he wants you to know, and this is weird looking at Billy Bright.
00:07:27.000 I want to see his face.
00:07:29.000 He wants us to know that.
00:07:33.000 You have the actual video?
00:07:35.000 Yeah, let's watch that.
00:07:36.000 5,000 years ago, if your village had a tiger coming into it every day and was eating people, you wouldn't do nothing.
00:07:42.000 You would move the village, you would build a fence, or you would kill the tiger.
00:07:46.000 You wouldn't say, well, I guess, you know, someone's going to get eaten every day because the price of liberty is tigers.
00:07:53.000 No.
00:07:54.000 You take some action.
00:07:56.000 Hey, do you see that?
00:07:56.000 That was interesting.
00:07:58.000 At the very end there, you could see him not liking his analogy.
00:08:02.000 I know from personal experience, sometimes garbage will fall out of my mouth and I'll just go, yeah, this isn't.
00:08:08.000 Like I was saying to Milo the other day, I go, you know, you could argue the Catholic Church, it was the impetus for separating church and state.
00:08:15.000 And he goes, that's a very generous reading.
00:08:18.000 And I went, yeah, that's total garbage.
00:08:20.000 What the hell am I talking about?
00:08:22.000 A tiger weighs 700 pounds.
00:08:24.000 A gun is three pounds.
00:08:25.000 What's easier to hide?
00:08:26.000 What's easier to regulate?
00:08:27.000 And by the way, what do you kill the tiger with?
00:08:30.000 Napalm?
00:08:31.000 No, you take out your AR-15 and you blow its head off.
00:08:34.000 So Stephen Colbert was totally ridiculed.
00:08:37.000 That went viral.
00:08:38.000 People handing in their ideas on why it was one of the worst analogies of 2017.
00:08:44.000 And then finally, we had my favorite thing ever.
00:08:48.000 This scream-in.
00:08:50.000 It was just, we're going to talk to Mark Dice about this on Monday, but what the hell do these idiots think this is going to accomplish?
00:08:58.000 It's therapy, I guess, but let's just look at it.
00:09:02.000 It's fun to just look at them suffer, isn't it?
00:09:05.000 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
00:09:13.000 5!
00:09:13.000 3, 2, 1.
00:09:21.000 5!
00:09:22.000 Let's go 2018!
00:09:32.000 This is actually happening.
00:09:35.000 That was great.
00:09:36.000 You know what people don't know?
00:09:37.000 I've been in a lot of punk bands over the years.
00:09:40.000 Screaming is a talent.
00:09:41.000 If you just scream to the untrained larynx, it's only going to last maybe like 30 seconds max.
00:09:49.000 The idea they're just going to sit there and scream, I think they watch too much TV.
00:09:52.000 This one, this happened all over the country, by the way.
00:09:55.000 This wasn't one group in New York of Vantifa.
00:09:58.000 This was thousands of people all across the country literally screamed at the sky in order to unhinge and dethrone Donald Trump and Mike Pence and Congress and everyone.
00:10:11.000 Look at this one.
00:10:20.000 You hear that, kids?
00:10:22.000 That's the sound of the Democrat Party dying.
00:10:26.000 I mean, what they're screaming is, I'm a baby.
00:10:29.000 I can't deal with reality.
00:10:31.000 Let's see.
00:10:32.000 that other one, Dave.
00:10:33.000 Music.
00:10:59.000 Wait, why is she smiling?
00:11:01.000 Yeah, Trump won.
00:11:02.000 Yeah, that's what we were doing.
00:11:04.000 That's what we were doing on election night.
00:11:06.000 This was us on election night.
00:11:08.000 USA!
00:11:10.000 Go Jake!
00:11:11.000 Woo!
00:11:14.000 That's how you scream.
00:11:16.000 You scream when you're in a good mood, you losers.
00:11:19.000 You lost, we won.
00:11:20.000 It's been a year.
00:11:22.000 Deal with it.
00:11:23.000 And let's deal with the show.
00:11:25.000 Start it, train subways.
00:11:28.000 I haven't no doubt, my friend.
00:11:31.000 I was watching a Buick commercial the other day.
00:11:33.000 Check this out.
00:11:35.000 What do you want this holiday to smell like?
00:11:38.000 Balsam fur?
00:11:39.000 Fresh cinnamon?
00:11:40.000 Or for something really?
00:11:43.000 What a load of crap.
00:11:45.000 You know what?
00:11:46.000 Sweaters are bullshit.
00:11:48.000 I am fucking boiling right now.
00:11:50.000 I'm next to a fire.
00:11:51.000 What is it?
00:11:51.000 90 degrees here?
00:11:52.000 My hand hurts.
00:11:53.000 I'm drenched in sweat.
00:11:55.000 Wearing a sweater by a fireplace is a lie.
00:11:57.000 It might make sense in 18th century England when it's always cold to the bone.
00:12:03.000 And that's, I think, what you're trying to do.
00:12:05.000 You're trying to look erudite.
00:12:06.000 You're trying to look aristocratic.
00:12:08.000 You want to be, hello, I'm so smart and tidy.
00:12:11.000 I sit by the fire with my cardigan on, with my VNIX sweater.
00:12:15.000 Look at my alma mater.
00:12:18.000 What a phony you are.
00:12:20.000 And fat people, when you wear it to hide your boobies, it looks so obvious.
00:12:24.000 We can tell you're boiling.
00:12:25.000 You are a sweater.
00:12:26.000 You know what Puerto Ricans do here in New York?
00:12:28.000 They wear a North Face jacket with a t-shirt underneath.
00:12:31.000 When they come inside, they take off the North Face jacket?
00:12:34.000 Normal temperature.
00:12:35.000 When they're outside, zippity-zip.
00:12:37.000 That's logical.
00:12:38.000 You're being a phony, and I'm talking to you two lawyers.
00:12:41.000 I hate those sweaters you have that zip down to here, and then you wear a blazer on top.
00:12:45.000 Did you just get here from the Congo?
00:12:47.000 Is the 70 degrees the coldest thing you've ever experienced?
00:12:51.000 No, it's a normal temperature.
00:12:53.000 Anyone who wears a sweater in America is lying.
00:12:56.000 I love my dad.
00:13:00.000 I love my dad.
00:13:02.000 I love my...
00:13:04.000 You know, when you see these social justice warriors, these antifa kids wearing hammer and sickle pins and screaming against free speech, trying to shut down a free speech event, you think, can you imagine the balls it would take to be the reverse?
00:13:17.000 Can you imagine being in Russia, being a free speech advocate, a libertarian, and fighting against the hammer and the sickle for your right to be free?
00:13:27.000 Now that would be something that impresses me.
00:13:30.000 And therefore, I bring you Mikhail Svetov.
00:13:33.000 Mikhail is that exact person.
00:13:35.000 He's a libertarian.
00:13:36.000 He's trying to get the libertarian party into the Moscow parliament.
00:13:41.000 And he was recently arrested for doing a lecture and attending a luncheon, Adam Smith Forum, it's called.
00:13:49.000 Now, the powers that be tell me, no, no, no, they were there because there's a Bolshevik anniversary and there's all these anti-government protests.
00:13:57.000 And we thought he was with them, which I don't believe because they just took him in last night and arrested him.
00:14:04.000 We got this interview shortly before the government took him in for more questioning.
00:14:10.000 And talking to Mikhail, it makes me wonder, is it possible for a libertarian to survive Russia?
00:14:19.000 Hello, and welcome back to Dobrovsky Television.
00:14:22.000 Today on the show, we have Mikhail Svetov, which is Russian for no sweating, get your sweat off.
00:14:30.000 Its original track pants are made of Svetov.
00:14:34.000 Is that correct?
00:14:37.000 I'm not sure.
00:14:38.000 Yeah, I believe that is the direct translation.
00:14:42.000 Mikhail, now you're something strange, and I'm not sure what this means as a Westerner.
00:14:47.000 You are a libertarian living in Putin's Russia, correct?
00:14:52.000 That's correct.
00:14:52.000 And it's pretty tough being a libertarian in Putin's Russia.
00:14:55.000 Yeah, it's a communist country still, despite what everyone here in the West likes to believe.
00:15:01.000 It's a very leftist country, and it's a very totalitarian country still, yes.
00:15:05.000 So I understand you're trying to get your fellow libertarians into Moscow, into the parliament.
00:15:12.000 Well, we'll be having a candidate running into Moscow parliament next year when the elections can be.
00:15:18.000 So you need, but what do you need?
00:15:20.000 I heard you need about 30,000 signatures for that to even be a possibility.
00:15:25.000 Yes, we already tried that four years ago in the previous elections.
00:15:29.000 It was really tough because basically when we were starting to get close to that number, we had thugs sent to us and they basically attacked our candidate and our activists and ripped the signatures apart.
00:15:40.000 They ripped the signatures.
00:15:41.000 We never made it to the public.
00:15:42.000 Yes, we have pictures of that.
00:15:44.000 I can send them to you after the show and you can see that.
00:15:46.000 That's amazing.
00:15:47.000 Now, I don't want to get you killed, so it's a very dangerous interview, but was that KGB that we're doing it?
00:15:53.000 Was it who, what are they called, these guys?
00:15:56.000 They're just thugs.
00:15:57.000 I mean, they never wear uniforms or anything.
00:16:00.000 Mostly it's like low criminals that they get hired by the police to do dirty work for them.
00:16:06.000 That's what they are.
00:16:07.000 Incredible.
00:16:08.000 So is there a chance that you'll get this candidate in office?
00:16:11.000 It seems like you're up against a dictator.
00:16:15.000 Well, we are.
00:16:15.000 There's much bigger things happening right now.
00:16:18.000 We have a presidential election happening next year in March, and there's an opposition candidate running for the as a candidate, trying to run as a candidate.
00:16:29.000 He's not a libertarian, but the libertarian party is supporting him in every way possible because he's a true opposition.
00:16:34.000 And basically, he's not being allowed on the ballot.
00:16:37.000 He collected over several hundred thousand signatures at this point from all over Russia.
00:16:42.000 And he's being jailed like every other week.
00:16:46.000 He's being put to jail for trying to hold a presidential rally, for trying to hold a rally for his supporters.
00:16:53.000 Now, we're getting a hum on the speakers here, and I can't help but think it's somehow you being investigated, you being bugged.
00:17:00.000 Aren't you scared yourself of you getting arrested?
00:17:05.000 Of course I am.
00:17:05.000 And that's basically why we asked you to put me on your show is because two days ago, we had this economics forum, which is called Adam Smith Forum, where we invite different speakers from different countries to talk about economic liberties and personal liberties and such.
00:17:22.000 And we had a president of Cato Institute, we had Joe Sorens of the Freedom State Projects, lots of libertarians from around the world.
00:17:28.000 But this year, 26 of our guests and some of our lecturers, including myself, were arrested and right now being interrogated as witnesses in criminal cases of domestic terrorism and inciting of mass violence.
00:17:48.000 And the last time it happened to the Russian opposition, a lot of witnesses were quickly made into suspects.
00:17:54.000 And that's why I'm raising awareness of what's happening right now.
00:17:58.000 Yeah, that protected Monica Lewinsky here in America.
00:18:01.000 They got her on file, they got her on tape, and then killing her or making her disappear would be too conspicuous.
00:18:08.000 So I'm determined to make you as conspicuous as possible.
00:18:11.000 And I think it's funny that anything that's considered liberating the people from the government is somehow treasonous and dangerous.
00:18:18.000 Yeah, it is dangerous to them.
00:18:21.000 Of course.
00:18:22.000 And you know how everyone in the West, you know, if you oppose the party line, you know, they call you racist.
00:18:28.000 And here, if you oppose a party line or Putin, you're called traitor to your country.
00:18:33.000 And that's just how it is.
00:18:35.000 Well, I think it's one of those few cases where it's good to be a traitor.
00:18:39.000 Well, it's good, but not particularly safe.
00:18:42.000 Right, yeah.
00:18:43.000 Wow, you Russian guys are smart.
00:18:45.000 Smart and dangerous.
00:18:46.000 Mikal, thanks very much for coming on the show.
00:18:48.000 I want to have you back.
00:18:49.000 I want to sort of track this over the next year and try to keep you alive and try to help you be successful.
00:18:58.000 That would be fantastic.
00:18:59.000 Thank you.
00:19:00.000 Thank you.
00:19:00.000 Thank you, Kevin.
00:19:01.000 Thank you, Mikal.
00:19:02.000 Dobroshkiov Snavrodski.
00:19:05.000 Ser Parosho, Spain.
00:19:08.000 It's Spain.
00:19:08.000 Thanks, man.
00:19:10.000 Thank you.
00:19:10.000 Bye.
00:19:11.000 night.
00:19:11.000 *music*
00:19:27.000 Okay, my wife and I watched Wind River last night.
00:19:30.000 It's a movie that they say is based on actual events.
00:19:33.000 And I rented it because it's our demographic.
00:19:35.000 It's a white guy married to an Indian woman.
00:19:37.000 maybe that'll bond us closer.
00:19:40.000 But she says, no, I ruined it because I got political.
00:19:43.000 And she goes, you politicize everything.
00:19:45.000 This movie's political.
00:19:46.000 It says it's based on actual events.
00:19:48.000 So you'd think it's going to show you a pattern.
00:19:50.000 And there is a pattern.
00:19:51.000 80% of women on reservations have experienced violence.
00:19:55.000 50% of that, it's sexual violence.
00:19:58.000 And the pattern there is it comes from other Native Americans, other people on the reservation, not contractors who come in.
00:20:06.000 This may have happened once, but it's clearly not a pattern.
00:20:10.000 One in, I think, three women on reservations have experienced either rape or attempted rape.
00:20:17.000 Why is this?
00:20:18.000 Well, according to Naomi Schaefer-Reilly in the new Trail of Tears, she blames it on the welfare state and how it's killed the whole culture on reservations because they're on welfare.
00:20:28.000 They don't own their homes.
00:20:30.000 They're slaves to the state.
00:20:32.000 What the problem is definitively not is white people.
00:20:38.000 But this movie makes it white people's fault.
00:20:40.000 You know who was raping the girl?
00:20:42.000 Well, let's show you.
00:20:44.000 Contractors.
00:20:45.000 That's right.
00:20:46.000 Guys who work for the oil companies in Alaska.
00:20:48.000 They're going up there in their trailers, and if some guy manages to seduce one of them, they all come in, kill him, and then rape her.
00:20:57.000 That's the way it happens.
00:20:58.000 And my wife goes, oh, well you shut up.
00:20:59.000 The hero who kills all these guys or beats them up.
00:21:02.000 I just gave away the ending.
00:21:04.000 Is a white guy.
00:21:06.000 And I go, yeah, that's virtue signaling like white knight.
00:21:09.000 These white guys want to beat up rapists on the res, but they don't want to beat up Indians, so they make it white guys.
00:21:15.000 This is all a liberal claptrap fake movie about fake rape.
00:21:20.000 All right, you see this woman?
00:21:22.000 She's a Fed.
00:21:23.000 She came in for this murder case, but they're not sure if they can make it a murder case because technically the girl, the victim, died of frostbite.
00:21:30.000 She died because her lungs got too cold.
00:21:33.000 One of the problems on the Reds is the Reds have their own police.
00:21:37.000 So I'm sorry that white people aren't doing more to solve these crimes.
00:21:40.000 You kicked white people out.
00:21:42.000 It's like the south side of Chicago.
00:21:44.000 They go, we hate police.
00:21:45.000 Please come here.
00:21:46.000 They ruin our neighborhoods.
00:21:48.000 And the police go, fine, I won't go there.
00:21:50.000 Now what are they up to in the south side?
00:21:52.000 Two murders a day?
00:21:53.000 You can't tell white people to leave and then go, why aren't white people doing anything in the hood?
00:21:58.000 Why aren't white people solving these murders on reservations?
00:22:02.000 Because you created your own segregated society.
00:22:05.000 Self-segregation can't complain about segregation.
00:22:08.000 You know, I've worked in the middle of nowhere.
00:22:11.000 I've worked in northern Ontario, northern BC, planting trees at camps that are all men.
00:22:16.000 If someone managed to get a chick there, you know what we'd all do?
00:22:19.000 We'd all go, you lucky bastard.
00:22:22.000 If we were wasted, we'd go, you lucky bastard.
00:22:26.000 We would not kill him and rape her to death.
00:22:29.000 So my wife goes, why'd you make it political?
00:22:31.000 And I go, they made it political.
00:22:32.000 Look, missing person stats, every other demographic, none exists for Native American women.
00:22:37.000 That's political.
00:22:38.000 You just put facts in a fiction movie, so it's not a fiction movie anymore.
00:22:42.000 No one knows how many are missing.
00:22:44.000 I got political because they made it political.
00:23:07.000 I was on the TV and Brett and they're talking about Trump and Trump in the age of satire and how, well, basically it's about how America has lost its way, which I would agree with when you're talking about satire and comedy.
00:23:21.000 Very serious, though, very melodramatic.
00:23:23.000 And I'm going to watch the clip of me because I'm a megalomaniac and we're on the me show.
00:23:29.000 So here's me on British TV.
00:23:32.000 They're certainly underrepresented on the mainstream comedy circuit.
00:23:36.000 I've tracked down one high-profile conservative who has agreed to talk.
00:23:42.000 Who has agreed to talk?
00:23:44.000 That's my dad's accent.
00:23:45.000 You hear that?
00:23:46.000 He's Scottish, but he's lived in England for, I smell like 12 years, and it's sort of stripped his Scot.
00:23:56.000 That's how you get to the Sean Connery Scott.
00:23:57.000 But anyway, he's driving to my home in the suburbs.
00:24:02.000 And yeah, I do have to be careful about where I live.
00:24:04.000 All these conservatives I know, they won't let me talk about this on air and name names because they don't want to give the left a victory.
00:24:10.000 But they've got panic rooms.
00:24:12.000 They've got guns.
00:24:13.000 They've got a line to the feds.
00:24:15.000 They've got a line to the cops.
00:24:16.000 They've got cameras all over their house.
00:24:18.000 Dana Lash just had to move.
00:24:20.000 Steven Crowder had to move.
00:24:22.000 All these people can't tell me their address.
00:24:25.000 Robert Spencer, not Richard, I'm sure Richard too, though, can't say their address online.
00:24:31.000 Elise Hirsiali has bulletproof glass.
00:24:34.000 Yeah, but those are because of Muslims.
00:24:37.000 No, it's all the same.
00:24:38.000 The jihadists and the antifa.
00:24:39.000 I just had a story about a guy in Kansas City, a proud boy, they broke into his home.
00:24:45.000 These two antifa kids.
00:24:47.000 There's a video about it called The Punishment Fits for Crime, about these guys going over to alt-right houses and kicking the crap out of them.
00:24:55.000 Now, I know I'm not alt-right, but the left doesn't distinguish.
00:24:58.000 You know, Mike Pence is the same as Richard Spencer to them.
00:25:02.000 So we're all in danger.
00:25:03.000 And yeah, we have to hide.
00:25:05.000 You know, I can't put my eldest kids on Instagram.
00:25:08.000 Chris Hayes can.
00:25:10.000 Rachel Manow can put anything out there.
00:25:12.000 But we have to be careful because we're not up against just opposition.
00:25:15.000 We're up against mentally ill opposition.
00:25:18.000 Took a bit of persuasion.
00:25:20.000 We're heading to a suburb of New York to meet him.
00:25:24.000 New York?
00:25:25.000 It hasn't been easy to set up this interview.
00:25:27.000 I've been speaking to Gavin McInnes over Twitter for almost a week.
00:25:30.000 He won't give her his cell number, and he only told me very recently where we should go to meet him.
00:25:34.000 He's very cagey with his personal details because, he says, his political views have made him a real target.
00:25:42.000 And people say, well, you're a Western chauvinist.
00:25:46.000 You're into the West.
00:25:47.000 Isn't that just white culture?
00:25:48.000 It's a thing and a thing and a thing.
00:25:51.000 You make everything about race.
00:25:53.000 As co-founder of Vice News, Gavin McInnes was a serious player in the new media landscape.
00:25:59.000 These days, he presents a right-wing talk show on an internet TV channel.
00:26:04.000 Oh, that was a little diss, wasn't it?
00:26:07.000 He used to be relevant on vice media, and now he does a vedcast on a bloody website.
00:26:15.000 Well, clearly, the guy's still relevant.
00:26:17.000 Look what happens when he tries to do a talk at NYU.
00:26:20.000 They call him a fascist, hold up resist signs, and have a wild NYU protest.
00:26:30.000 Some of his opinions are incendiary.
00:26:32.000 They've made him a hate figure for the left.
00:26:34.000 In February this year, he was attacked outside New York University, where he'd been invited to deliver a talk.
00:26:41.000 McInnes knows he's provocative.
00:26:43.000 It's an image he plays up to.
00:26:45.000 But he insists he's only expressing the same views Donald Trump campaigned on, and America elected him.
00:26:52.000 Look how fat I am.
00:26:56.000 Ladies and gentlemen, switching from Maker's Mark to exclusively Budweiser is better for your marriage.
00:27:02.000 It's better for work.
00:27:03.000 The hangovers, you don't exist.
00:27:04.000 You will not wet the bed.
00:27:06.000 Unfortunately, you will become a fat pig.
00:27:10.000 You will look like you have an inner tube around your stomach, and your neck will have the exact same width as the middle of your face.
00:27:17.000 So why aren't there more people like him on the mainstream circuit?
00:27:22.000 If a comedian comes out as pro-Trump, they're persona non-grata the next day.
00:27:27.000 In fact, their lives are in danger.
00:27:28.000 I sound hyperbolic, but it's the truth.
00:27:31.000 You know, you're either the best case scenario for someone being in comedy and media and being right-wing is you're a pariah.
00:27:40.000 The worst case scenario is you get death threats.
00:27:42.000 Are you going full screen on some of these, Dave?
00:27:45.000 Yeah.
00:27:46.000 So that was five gabs in one shot.
00:27:49.000 Can America just keep laughing at itself in the hope that the wounds will heal?
00:27:54.000 My last trip across town took me to the home of an adopted New Yorker.
00:27:58.000 Martin Amos is...
00:28:02.000 You know, one thing I mentioned in that interview that they didn't include was that he says, what strength does satire have?
00:28:09.000 What role does it play in American society?
00:28:12.000 And I said, the beauty of the West is not a big one.
00:28:15.000 Satire is just fun here in America, Canada, most of Europe.
00:28:19.000 And that's a good thing.
00:28:21.000 It's just like junk food to us.
00:28:23.000 Now, within Islam, in Russia, in China, it's a major force.
00:28:31.000 George Orwell said, Within every joke is a tiny revolution.
00:28:34.000 And he was talking about oppressive regimes.
00:28:37.000 Here it's just silly.
00:28:38.000 Here it's just fun.
00:28:39.000 The fact that these liberals have ruined comedy and turned all of stand-up into three jokes, 2016 sucked, Trump is Hitler, Trump is Satan.
00:28:47.000 The fact that they've reduced it to three jokes is just disappointing.
00:28:51.000 It's like if five guys, the burger chain, went under, you'd go, ah, that sucks.
00:28:57.000 I'll live, but that sucks.
00:28:59.000 Whereas in the rest of the world, in the East, the death of satire leads to literal death.
00:29:05.000 And my trip is my trip to yeah, my mom.
00:29:10.000 Hi, Romy.
00:29:11.000 Hey, thanks for having me again.
00:29:13.000 Thank you for coming on the show.
00:29:16.000 I was talking to Will Summer at The Hill, and he was, you know, accusing NBC of covering my group wrong, the Proud Boys.
00:29:25.000 They neglected to mention that they were once seen with this person and that person.
00:29:29.000 And I said, you're a Bigfoot chaser.
00:29:31.000 You guys are so obsessed with these Nazis.
00:29:33.000 You see them in the woods.
00:29:34.000 And then after I hung up, I realized, wait a minute, it's worse than that.
00:29:39.000 They're like crazy ex-girlfriends.
00:29:41.000 They're stalking you, saying, I saw you with her.
00:29:44.000 I saw you with Barbara.
00:29:45.000 I know you both like that sports bullshit.
00:29:48.000 Pretty much.
00:29:48.000 Well, I'm not sure if you know who Right Wing Watch is, but they released sort of a hit piece.
00:29:53.000 And, you know, we're listing people like Brittany Pettibone as these right-wing extremists.
00:29:58.000 And then also listing people like me, Sargon, and Sven Manu as accomplices of the alt-right.
00:30:04.000 And then listing just everything everyone's done, interviewed, spoken about, not actually listing what any of these people believe, whether they actually are alt-right and white nationalists, just kind of like connections that they've had.
00:30:15.000 Yes.
00:30:16.000 Yeah, it's czar.
00:30:17.000 And then you say, well, why don't you ask the person, hey, roaming millennial, are you a white nationalist?
00:30:22.000 No, I'm not even white.
00:30:25.000 Well, I don't believe you.
00:30:26.000 And then you say, why would she lie?
00:30:28.000 What's her motive to lie?
00:30:31.000 Right.
00:30:31.000 And if you actually look at figures like Richard Spencer, they're super open about it.
00:30:35.000 It's not like they're hiding it.
00:30:36.000 They're secret al-right people.
00:30:39.000 No, but it's so much easier to just be like, oh, so, you know, you've been on Red Ice TV or they mentioned you one time.
00:30:45.000 So therefore, obviously, you know, you must be at least in cahoots with them in some way, as opposed to just actually listening to what you're saying.
00:30:52.000 Because that takes so much longer.
00:30:54.000 You know, it's just, it's easier this way.
00:30:55.000 It's guilt by association, and it's a logical fallacy you learn about in high school.
00:31:00.000 All dogs are mammals.
00:31:01.000 All cats are mammals.
00:31:02.000 All dogs are not cats.
00:31:05.000 Or an even clearer guilt by association is simply you were seen with that person.
00:31:10.000 Ergo, you're responsible for everything.
00:31:13.000 I remember Patton Oswalt was in a photo where a cartoonist had drawn that archetypal anti-Semitic cartoon with the Shekha stat.
00:31:21.000 He's in the photo with the guy who originally drew that.
00:31:25.000 Therefore, Patton Oswalt is a Nazi.
00:31:28.000 And you go, now, what kind of America do you want where we're responsible for every person in every photo we're in?
00:31:34.000 Right.
00:31:34.000 And it's not just that he was in the photo with him, though.
00:31:37.000 It's that he was in the photo and didn't punch the other guy in the face as a Nazi, which is clearly what we're supposed to do when we're in those situations.
00:31:44.000 I interviewed Richard Spencer, was it this year or last year?
00:31:47.000 I can't remember.
00:31:47.000 It might have been earlier this year.
00:31:49.000 And since then, I've had people accusing me of being alt-right, a white nationalist.
00:31:53.000 Most of the people didn't even watch the interview.
00:31:55.000 And I know that for a fact because toward the end, I made what was a questionably edgy joke, and no one's brought it up, which I feel like if they had heard it, these people would definitely be bringing it up.
00:32:03.000 And they haven't, so I know they didn't watch it.
00:32:05.000 And yeah, I've been accused of dog whistling and stuff like that when I talk about things like individual liberty, which is apparently code for white supremacy.
00:32:13.000 Now, let's explain dog whistles to the baby boomers.
00:32:17.000 This is a term that means you say something and it sounds fine, but there's a secret code in there that the white nationalists can hear that say, like, kill the Jews on Thursday at 4 p.m.
00:32:27.000 Right.
00:32:27.000 It's sort of a way for white nationalists Right to kind of signal to each other that they have the same beliefs, but you know, to the average person watching, it sounds okay.
00:32:37.000 So, yeah, kind of like a secret handshake of either imagery, language, ideology, anything like that.
00:32:44.000 And here's what drives me nuts about that whole concept: why?
00:32:49.000 Why would someone have secret messages?
00:32:52.000 Sam Hyde lost his show on Cartoon Network because they said he was hiding swastikas in the background.
00:32:58.000 They just said it and it was accepted.
00:32:58.000 No evidence of this.
00:33:00.000 And you go, okay, why?
00:33:02.000 Why would he do that?
00:33:04.000 Just for the satisfaction of knowing that he knows something the audience doesn't.
00:33:08.000 You know, just for that smug satisfaction that you're sneaking up.
00:33:12.000 Everyone's job in the whole show.
00:33:14.000 Just sitting on a grapefruit in the background.
00:33:18.000 Sorry, go ahead.
00:33:19.000 Well, I mean, just a lot of the, and you notice that a lot of the people who are alleging these dogballs, they're not actually the alt-right themselves.
00:33:27.000 Right.
00:33:27.000 Right?
00:33:28.000 Because I've never been accused of being alt-right or sympathetic to the alt-right from anyone who's actually in the alt-right.
00:33:33.000 It's always these progressive extremist leftists who don't actually care what the alt-right themselves have to say about anyone else and whether they're all right.
00:33:40.000 They're apparently the arbiters of who's alt-right.
00:33:42.000 Yeah, Martina Markota is a woman who's being pilloried by the left for being associated with the alt-right.
00:33:50.000 The alt-right hates her.
00:33:51.000 The alt-right attacks her.
00:33:52.000 So she gets the worst of both worlds.
00:33:54.000 She lost her job.
00:33:55.000 She used to work in cabaret.
00:33:56.000 She can't do anything in art anymore.
00:33:58.000 She ends up being pushed into the political world just because that's the only job left.
00:34:03.000 So she becomes politicized by these people.
00:34:06.000 Yet, there's no advantage.
00:34:08.000 It's not like David Duke high-fives her and sends her a secret check.
00:34:11.000 So she's vilified by both sides.
00:34:13.000 And you think, what if you were to apply this kind of scrutiny to Muslims, to Islam?
00:34:19.000 They did.
00:34:19.000 There was a guy at DC Comics.
00:34:21.000 He did sneak in Muslim messages into the comics.
00:34:24.000 They do associate with bad people that they do agree with.
00:34:28.000 We see time and time again, these academics, these politicians being caught with the Muslim Brotherhood, being caught with Hamas, being linked to terrorism, terrorist mosques.
00:34:37.000 Yet no mention of that.
00:34:38.000 You were in a photo with baked Alaska.
00:34:41.000 Therefore, you're a Nazi.
00:34:43.000 Absolutely.
00:34:43.000 I mean, and you even have people like Linda Sarsour, who is this feminist icon, on tape saying, you know, anti-Semitic, anti-Zionist things.
00:34:52.000 No one talks about it, but because, I don't know, someone like Bannon like knew this guy or posted this edge, like whatever.
00:34:59.000 And that's somehow not.
00:35:00.000 But a leftist can like actively express things that are either racist or, you know, sexist, homophobic, anti-Semitic, and they won't say anything.
00:35:10.000 It's crazy.
00:35:11.000 And I feel like, you know, a lot of these activists who complain about dog whistle, they, dog whistling, they complain more about those who allegedly dog whistle than the people who are outright and outspokenly al-right, right?
00:35:21.000 These people complain way more about people like, I don't know, let's say you, for example, than they actually do Richard Spencer.
00:35:27.000 I know.
00:35:27.000 I don't understand that.
00:35:29.000 I've got plenty of guys.
00:35:30.000 There's plenty of white nationalists out there that would hate.
00:35:33.000 There's no shortage.
00:35:34.000 And there's plenty of, if you want to get into sexism and homophobia, there's plenty of Muslims, devout, spiritual Muslims that would love to explain to you why gays are going to hell and why gays are evil, yet they're just consumed with white people.
00:35:47.000 They're crazy ex-girlfriends.
00:35:49.000 They're stalkers.
00:35:51.000 Well, it's more interesting for them this way if nothing else, I guess.
00:35:55.000 I am perpetually confused by it, and it seems to know no bounds.
00:35:59.000 I mean, with Steve Bannon, it's books.
00:36:01.000 They don't like that he likes a book that apparently white nationalists like.
00:36:05.000 And I used to compare them to Islam and say they're insatiable.
00:36:08.000 You know, Islam isn't satisfied with a burqa.
00:36:10.000 They want you to wear the burqa correctly or whatever.
00:36:13.000 But we've gone beyond that.
00:36:14.000 They're no longer just as bad as Islam.
00:36:17.000 They're way worse now.
00:36:18.000 They are lunatics, obsessive, myopic ex-girlfriends.
00:36:23.000 Well, I mean, it's kind of bad now because not only are they trying to pull in these political commentators or political figures, we actually now have people like Taylor Swift getting accused of being sympathetic to the alt-right or white supremacists herself.
00:36:36.000 And it's like, really?
00:36:38.000 Taylor Swift, really?
00:36:40.000 She's what you've chosen to identify as a secret agent of white nationalism?
00:36:46.000 Why?
00:36:47.000 What's Taylor's agenda?
00:36:48.000 Like, she gets them in, and then once they're in the room, she locks a door, releases a gas, and then goes, be a Nazi.
00:36:56.000 And they go, I'm a Nazi.
00:36:57.000 I mean, that's what they say.
00:37:00.000 I was told I went to NYU to recruit people.
00:37:02.000 And I go, why would I go to NYU to recruit Nazis?
00:37:06.000 That's the last place you're going to find any.
00:37:08.000 It's bad business.
00:37:10.000 Yeah, not a lot of Nazis, I would say, in like upper middle class New York society.
00:37:16.000 Okay, last point on this.
00:37:18.000 This, the milk, Pepe the Frog, the left goes, those are symbols.
00:37:23.000 See, Nazis like them.
00:37:24.000 Pepe the frog is listed as a hate symbol.
00:37:26.000 And then you go, no, this means okay.
00:37:27.000 And they go, oh yeah, why do Nazis use it?
00:37:29.000 You know that it no longer means just this.
00:37:31.000 You know what this means?
00:37:33.000 It's a parody of you, dummy.
00:37:35.000 It's a parody of how obsessed you are with everything.
00:37:38.000 They just throw a dart in the grocery store, hit milk, and go, let's make milk a thing.
00:37:41.000 Watch this.
00:37:42.000 I can make them freak out about milk.
00:37:43.000 Milk, milk.
00:37:44.000 And then they go, milk, milk.
00:37:47.000 And they don't understand that we're all laughing at them.
00:37:50.000 It's like with the whole Kyrgyzstani flag.
00:37:52.000 I had this one person there.
00:37:54.000 She's this random progressive blogger who has a beef with me for some reason.
00:37:59.000 And she was going like, oh, all your supporters are Nazi sympathizers.
00:38:03.000 Look at this, like, this green flag.
00:38:04.000 It's clearly reminiscent of Nazi ideology.
00:38:07.000 She has a bunch of screenshots comparing the two.
00:38:09.000 It's like, look how similar they are.
00:38:10.000 And it's like, yeah, that's the joke.
00:38:14.000 Congratulations.
00:38:16.000 That's the point of parody, is that they're similar.
00:38:19.000 Good, yeah.
00:38:20.000 That's exactly what it was designed to do.
00:38:22.000 Make you crazy, you dummy.
00:38:24.000 You're walking into the trap.
00:38:26.000 I kind of feel bad for them.
00:38:28.000 I mean, it must be hard just navigating life as these people and their basic, like, very low understanding of how things work.
00:38:36.000 It's mentally ill.
00:38:37.000 And I think what we have to do is just say, I'm not racist once, make it clear, bookmark that.
00:38:42.000 And then when they scream it, just send them there rather than fall into their trap and end up defending yourself constantly, repeating the same thing again and again and again, like Sololinsky wants you to.
00:38:52.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:38:54.000 Thanks, Roaming.
00:38:55.000 Thanks.
00:38:59.000 Here we go today, folks.
00:39:00.000 Trump won, and the left has almost accepted that.
00:39:04.000 I don't know.
00:39:05.000 Maybe it'll be a little bit longer.
00:39:08.000 Probably by 2018, they'll have figured it out.
00:39:10.000 Tomorrow, I do my free audio podcast.