Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - Get Off My Lawn #32 | Dough Vinci

00:00:12.000 Live from New York, it's Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McInnes.

00:00:19.000 That was...

00:00:34.000 What's that one called?

00:00:36.000 God, I love that jam.

00:00:38.000 Ready for it.

00:00:39.000 Are you ready for it?

00:00:40.000 Boom, boom, boom.

00:00:42.000 Country music star doing Electro Clash super pop.

00:00:47.000 What do we got here?

00:00:48.000 Douche Vinci? 0.96

00:00:51.000 Leonardo da Vinci sold a picture of my old hash dealer for $450 million. 0.86

00:00:56.000 I hope he doesn't spend it all in one place.

00:00:58.000 Come on, Lenny.

00:00:59.000 You know how those Italians are when they get nouveau riche. 1.00

00:01:04.000 Today is the goofing with the gals episode.

00:01:08.000 Choked on my own phlegm there.

00:01:10.000 And we're going to talk about Taylor Swift a lot with Tiana Lowe.

00:01:15.000 Now, Tiana's a very intelligent young lady.

00:01:17.000 She's actually a mathematician, but she's pretty, and I want to just make it fun.

00:01:23.000 So I hope I'm not trivializing her IQ by talking to her exclusively about Taylor today.

00:01:28.000 And there is a sort of a news angle here.

00:01:31.000 We can't appreciate her.

00:01:32.000 We can't appreciate that she's freakishly gifted, this artist.

00:01:37.000 And she's been accused of being alt-right because alt-right guys seem to like her.

00:01:41.000 And she's been chastised for not supporting Hillary enough and not being political enough.

00:01:46.000 Like she's in trouble for what she didn't do.

00:01:49.000 And Jim Norton said that a long time ago to me once.

00:01:51.000 He said, the way the liberals' mind is, is you're either 100% with them or 100% against them.

00:01:57.000 So if you're not on board, then you're a Nazi.

00:01:59.000 You're the worst.

00:02:00.000 We'll also talk, speaking of Nazis, to Faith Goldie.

00:02:05.000 Equally hot, I'd say.

00:02:06.000 They're both over eight.

00:02:08.000 And I'm going to talk to her about how she could be the new Maggie Thatcher of Canada. 0.98

00:02:12.000 And I'm going to give her career advice and we'll see if she either takes it or can explain to me why I'm wrong.

00:02:18.000 I have a feeling it will be the latter because she may actually be smarter than me, which is shocking.

00:02:23.000 As a sexist, I find that pretty hard to take.

00:02:26.000 But without further to-do, as people who don't understand colloquialisms like to say, let's get started with the Goofing with the Gals episode.

00:02:35.000 Oh, wait, wait, wait.

00:02:36.000 I also started a new show today, Rick Shapiro.

00:02:40.000 I'm going to go to his diner every day and have onion rings with him and hear him talk his brilliant psychobabble that sounds like mumbling because his Parkinson's is so bad.

00:02:50.000 But when you actually parse it and listen closely, you realize there's the same old Rick Shapiro genius inside of there.

00:03:03.000 Hi, Toots.

00:03:04.000 Let's talk about Faith Goldie for a second, shall we?

00:03:06.000 I used to work with her at Rebel.

00:03:08.000 She was recently fired for speaking to an alt-right podcast down in Charlottesville where she was reporting.

00:03:15.000 And I'm going to talk to her today about revoking that firing because I don't think it was...

00:03:24.000 And I just want her record to be cleaner.

00:03:26.000 You know what I mean?

00:03:28.000 Because I think she's going to be prime minister one day. 0.99

00:03:30.000 I think that she has the intelligence and the strength to lead Canada.

00:03:36.000 Not tomorrow, although Justin Trudeau is doing it way too soon.

00:03:40.000 Why not her?

00:03:41.000 But, you know, in maybe 10 years, 15 years, I really think she could be the Thatcher of Canada.

00:03:47.000 And mostly because she recognizes that Christianity is the backbone of Western civilization.

00:03:55.000 You know, before 9-11, we had this pattern here where, and it's still prevalent, but Christians were about a third of the population and Muslims, sorry, two-thirds and Muslims were about a third, or whatever the exact numbers are.

00:04:08.000 I'm not smart.

00:04:09.000 But as the Christianity was coming down with babies and demographics and everything, the Islam was coming up. 1.00

00:04:15.000 And we're headed to a situation where that's reversed.

00:04:18.000 That's bad.

00:04:19.000 And it's not just bad for Christians. 0.99

00:04:21.000 It's bad for the world.

00:04:23.000 We make better leaders.

00:04:24.000 We should be the majority.

00:04:28.000 So to support the West, whether you're an atheist or not, by the way, is to be on a crusade.

00:04:36.000 And those two are inseparable.

00:04:39.000 So I did this talk with Faith, and it was in Canada.

00:04:43.000 It was a free speech thing.

00:04:45.000 And I got up and I did a funny little chat.

00:04:48.000 And Jordan Peterson, he got up and spoke.

00:04:50.000 Geez, Louise.

00:04:51.000 Love the guy.

00:04:52.000 But he spoke for what seemed like an hour about the origins of good and what defines good ethically.

00:05:00.000 And he used rats as an example.

00:05:01.000 It was fascinating and mind-blowing, but it didn't exactly have the audience in hysterics.

00:05:09.000 It was just like a very good university lecture.

00:05:14.000 Then faith comes on.

00:05:15.000 And I don't want to oversell this, but I just watched it and I just thought, this person is an inspiration.

00:05:23.000 I mean, and that word is overused.

00:05:25.000 She's inspiring.

00:05:26.000 She makes me feel like I want to put on an armor and run outside going, she's an incredible person.

00:05:36.000 And, you know, this is especially compelling when you're at a public speaking thing where you're nervous and people just tend to read.

00:05:44.000 Half the time you see someone who seems dynamic on stage, they're just a good actor reading a teleprompter.

00:05:50.000 But not Faith.

00:05:50.000 Faith goes out there with her personality and blows everyone away.

00:05:54.000 So here are some highlights from the speech I'm talking about.

00:05:57.000 And tell me, this is not an infectious love of the West.

00:06:03.000 I'm going to drop the C-bomb before we get started because I'm sure that's what the New York Times would like to hear.

00:06:08.000 Am I going to call for a crusade?

00:06:09.000 You're damn right.

00:06:18.000 Doesn't he think that she's incredibly human?

00:06:21.000 Miss, in the event any of the journalists don't feel like pulling out their dictionary, I'll just let you know.

00:06:26.000 To crusade is a verb, and it means to be engaged in an energetic and organized campaign, not just military.

00:06:35.000 Although I'll say, hey, if you're a Christian and you want to take up arms and help in the fight against ASIS, you do it, baby.

00:06:44.000 She was getting everything so pumped, too.

00:06:46.000 People were sitting in and drinking coffee, and the energy totally changed after this.

00:06:51.000 As well as the radical left have already launched crusades.

00:06:54.000 And I am extremely interested in launching a counter-crusade.

00:06:58.000 Thank you very much.

00:06:59.000 I'm not afraid to say it.

00:07:02.000 So often we're told, love your You know how after Trump was elected, you're walking down the street and you sort of go, I can't believe Trump is president.

00:07:10.000 I can't believe it.

00:07:11.000 And like it made the trees better.

00:07:13.000 It made the streets better.

00:07:15.000 The mailbox seemed like more blue.

00:07:17.000 Everything just seemed like a higher quality.

00:07:20.000 And that's how I think you would feel in Canada if Faith was prime minister.

00:07:23.000 You'd just be walking down the street going, we're on a crusade.

00:07:25.000 Christianity is safe under her.

00:07:28.000 We're not going to be getting floods of refugees permanently altering the demographics of the country. 1.00

00:07:34.000 We're going to get our country back.

00:07:35.000 We're going to make Canada great again.

00:07:38.000 Your neighbor like yourself as a reason to take in refugees, as a reason to open up your backyard, as a reason for self-sacrificial love, as a reason to put your neighbor before yourself. 0.91

00:07:48.000 But you'll understand, as a Christian, reading this, love your neighbor as yourself.

00:07:54.000 God commands us to love ourselves as well.

00:07:58.000 And right now, we have failed within the body of Christ.

00:08:00.000 We absolutely have.

00:08:01.000 We have not been looking after our brothers and sisters the world over.

00:08:05.000 There is a genocide of Christians occurring right now in the Middle East, and no one is talking about it.

00:08:11.000 322 Christians are killed for their faith.

00:08:14.000 214 churches and Christian properties are destroyed.

00:08:18.000 722.

00:08:20.000 And by the way, Faith Goldie goes to these places.

00:08:23.000 She goes to northern Iraq.

00:08:24.000 She's there on the ground at these places, working with these people, going to these abandoned churches, doing news bits, shooting videos in churches where there's a bullet hole through a Bible.

00:08:37.000 Hey, SJWs, hey, liberals, do you have a tenth, a hundredth, a thousandth of that conviction for your beliefs?

00:08:46.000 No, you don't.

00:08:49.000 Two, forces of violence are committed against Christians.

00:08:52.000 And I know that these are all very conservative estimates.

00:08:54.000 That includes beatings, rapes, and abductions.

00:08:56.000 I'm sorry.

00:08:57.000 A woman and a hijab can be yelled at and we hear about it for one whole week, maybe longer. 1.00

00:09:02.000 People are literally being slaughtered and no one will talk about it in the media or in our politics.

00:09:11.000 215 million Christians, that's 10% of our global population of Christians worldwide, are socially disadvantaged, harassed, actively oppressed, or even killed for their beliefs.

00:09:22.000 You think about that.

00:09:23.000 Think about your own congregation.

00:09:24.000 One in 10 of you would be persecuted if you lived somewhere else.

00:09:29.000 I mean, this goes on and on.

00:09:30.000 You look it up yourself.

00:09:31.000 Faith Goldie at the Rebel Live.

00:09:32.000 It's Crusade O'Clock.

00:09:34.000 I mean, I was at the birthplace of Jesus Christ with her.

00:09:38.000 And she said, she really ramps up the hoser when she's smoking some darts and having some brews. 1.00

00:09:43.000 And she goes, I'm coming here, eh?

00:09:45.000 I'm going to come here because it is totally taken over by Muslims. 1.00

00:09:48.000 It is a Muslim area.

00:09:50.000 They're having the call to prayer there.

00:09:51.000 You wouldn't know Jesus was born at this Nativity church.

00:09:54.000 This is in Bethlehem.

00:09:58.000 She goes, I'm going to come back here, eh?

00:09:59.000 I'm going to come back here with my husband and just start breeding, breeding, breeding.

00:10:03.000 And then I'll bring my friends and they'll start breeding.

00:10:05.000 We're going to take this back with babies. 0.97

00:10:07.000 Let's take it back with babies. 1.00

00:10:09.000 Then we joked that there'd be a giant statue of Faith Goldie wearing her lumberjack jacket and her baseball hat with moles and golden and with a dart in her hand and a Lebatz blue. 0.99

00:10:20.000 Huge shrine.

00:10:21.000 It was fun.

00:10:22.000 Let's talk to her right now.

00:10:24.000 Let me get her on the old telly here.

00:10:30.000 Faith?

00:10:31.000 Five mutual contacts?

00:10:33.000 That's got to be her.

00:10:35.000 Let's give her a little Mr. Bojangles, shall we? 0.92

00:10:40.000 It's ringing.

00:10:45.000 Faith Goldie!

00:10:47.000 Gavin McInnes.

00:10:48.000 Now, we were just watching your speech at Rebel where you sort of switched in my mind.

00:10:53.000 I always admired you, but after that speech, I thought this woman is going to become prime minister.

00:11:00.000 That's nice.

00:11:00.000 Thank you.

00:11:01.000 I appreciate you saying that.

00:11:02.000 I don't know how many people would vote for me.

00:11:04.000 It'd be like a Donald Trump closeted vote where no one, I would be like, the other candidate's 98% ahead in the polls the day before.

00:11:12.000 Like, whoa, holy smokes.

00:11:13.000 There are a lot of kicked off people in this country.

00:11:16.000 We had no idea.

00:11:17.000 Yeah, that's exactly what it will be.

00:11:20.000 But here's the problem now.

00:11:21.000 So you've got your reputation marred with this rebel thing because of Charlottesville, blah, blah, blah.

00:11:27.000 Let's just recap for everyone.

00:11:29.000 So you went down there as a reporter, but you spoke to an alt-right podcast.

00:11:35.000 And I think your boss Ezra thought you were a little too relaxed.

00:11:39.000 And it looked bad for the brand.

00:11:41.000 So you're out of there.

00:11:42.000 So here's my idea.

00:11:44.000 I think Ezra would be happy to have you back.

00:11:46.000 So what you do is you sit in a room with him like Charlie Rose style, right?

00:11:50.000 And you have like an hour and a half long discussion where it's clear, because you both have the same politics at the end of the day.

00:11:57.000 We were in Israel together.

00:11:59.000 We're both basically Zionists, right? 0.78

00:12:01.000 I argue for the one state solution.

00:12:04.000 We're all household names in Israel.

00:12:06.000 That's why I find the anti-Semitist, anti-Semitism card hilarious, because I'm like, guys, like I am more pro-Israel.

00:12:14.000 We both fell in love with the wall.

00:12:16.000 I'm like, Israel gets demographics. 0.83

00:12:18.000 That's why they're not naturalizing millions of Arabs in the West Bank because they don't want the Knesset to be like a giant Muslim Arabic, you know, house of parliament, so to speak. 0.98

00:12:27.000 I'm like, yes, I'm for it.

00:12:28.000 I believe in their self-determination, but that's not enough.

00:12:32.000 I was at the point where I wanted to become a Nazi skinhead there, but for Israel. 0.77

00:12:37.000 So I would like be beating up Palestinians and stuff with my boots, but I'd have the Star of David. 1.00

00:12:43.000 But anyway, so you sit with him for an hour, then you get your job back at Rebel, but it doesn't matter for how long.

00:12:50.000 It could be like six months, one month.

00:12:54.000 And now the history books say, Faith Goldie, when you're running for prime minister in 10 years, the history books say, blah, blah, blah, Faith Goldie, misunderstanding about a rally, but it was worked out she was back at the rebel.

00:13:07.000 And so now the story in the history books is when there's a problem, she goes in and fixes it.

00:13:12.000 This is what she's going to do to the Canadian economy here in the year 2029. 1.00

00:13:18.000 I think you give too much credit to the media to be in any way generous of just my own career and my own abilities.

00:13:26.000 And I'll say this to you.

00:13:27.000 I know that Ezra would be happy to have me back, and I appreciate you having me on your show to give me bloody career and life advice, Kevin.

00:13:34.000 God love you, bud.

00:13:35.000 So here's the thing.

00:13:37.000 Ezra and I, I mean, I still have a huge amount of respect for him.

00:13:40.000 You know, I still consider his whole family part of my friends, frankly.

00:13:44.000 And most of the folks at the Rebel, I still keep in regular contact with.

00:13:48.000 There was no need for us to assign an NDA at the end of it because Ezra knows that I'm not going to go, you know, saying bad things about him because especially in this country, he's the only guy in the game when it comes to, you know, speaking right-wing common sense in the media sphere.

00:14:05.000 So I get all of that.

00:14:06.000 But to be completely honest, since we are airing my personal and professional and political laundry on your program, thanks very much.

00:14:14.000 I'm sorry.

00:14:16.000 I'm trying to promote you.

00:14:17.000 I want you to take over the world.

00:14:19.000 I want you to save the West.

00:14:20.000 But like through election, right?

00:14:22.000 So here's the thing.

00:14:24.000 With respect to going forward with Ezra, first of all, I've never ever done anything for the sake of how I am perceived by another.

00:14:32.000 I've been in this game since I was 19 years old.

00:14:34.000 So I've been called a homophobe, a transphobe, Islamophobe.

00:14:38.000 Now it's racist and white supremacist and anti-Semite.

00:14:42.000 My record speaks for itself that I'm none of those things, but none of that matters.

00:14:46.000 For me, all of those labels are just a code word for heretic in the modern world.

00:14:50.000 And I'm happy to be called a heretic in the modern world. 0.98

00:14:53.000 That's part of my calling as a Christian and indeed as a, you know, a common sense conservative in this tide of just sinister backwardsness. 0.64

00:15:04.000 And on top of that, from a very, so I wouldn't go there just so that way the press would be in some way allieved by it.

00:15:10.000 Well, they thought that she was a Nazi, but now it's all good because she got taken back.

00:15:14.000 And the second thing, and this is more of a personal note, if Ezra's watching this, I'm sure he'd feel the same way, to be frank.

00:15:21.000 Going back to Ezra, now, Ezra and I had an amazing, amazing professional relationship where he was very much like a, he was a free speech hero in my eyes.

00:15:30.000 This was a guy who, you know, first published the Muhammad cartoons here in Canada. 0.98

00:15:34.000 And that's how he first got on my radar when I was probably a university student.

00:15:37.000 And so I always had him on this kind of pedestal.

00:15:39.000 And then I got to work for him.

00:15:40.000 And he mentored me in many, many ways.

00:15:43.000 And I think that myself using my free speech and then getting burned for it when I was in the role of guest on a show, not host.

00:15:54.000 It wasn't my job to launch an inquisition against the crypto report.

00:15:57.000 It was my job to report on Charlottesville, which is what I did.

00:16:01.000 And yeah, I did it differently than everyone else because I pointed to the fact that some people weren't allowed to use the First Amendment rights, despite even having a court order to go forward and do just that.

00:16:09.000 But I think that whole topic honestly has been beaten dead in the media.

00:16:13.000 So here I am, you know, everyone, the whole world, every day, my Google alerts are popping up with Faith Goldie's a neo-Nazi international headlines.

00:16:23.000 And someone who I loved and respected and continued to, and held up on this pedestal, in a way, you know, he, I suppose, at least from a bird's eye view, agreed with them.

00:16:36.000 And so it would be now if we were to go back together, working together, it would be almost like going back to this from a personal standpoint, and this is not a slate against Azure.

00:16:44.000 I'm just being honest as to why I've not accepted any sort of overtures to go back there.

00:16:47.000 It would be like going back to a boyfriend who cheated on you.

00:16:50.000 That's what it feels like.

00:16:52.000 The relationship will never be the same.

00:16:53.000 We get all the juicy goths on this show. 1.00

00:16:57.000 Well, it just, it just, no, the relationship would never be the same.

00:17:02.000 I'd always, and I think it would go both ways.

00:17:04.000 He'd probably have a leering eye out for me.

00:17:06.000 What's faith going to do?

00:17:07.000 How is it going to be perceived?

00:17:09.000 And I need to have ultimate editorial discretion when I do my job the way that I want to.

00:17:14.000 It's the only way that I can be myself and be honest with my audience and responsible with the subjects that I cover.

00:17:20.000 And I, on the other hand, would feel like, like, I don't know.

00:17:25.000 I don't know.

00:17:26.000 It's a different, you know, you know, thank God for my Christianity because it's offered me a lot of white pills, so to speak, along this.

00:17:34.000 But a giant black pill was this idea, frankly, of corporatism.

00:17:37.000 I lost a lot of my gigs in the sleigh ride that ensued.

00:17:40.000 You just had that free speech thing with Gad Sad and Jordan Peterson got messed up because of this fake reputation.

00:17:48.000 And what did they all say?

00:17:49.000 These are guys who have talked to me.

00:17:50.000 They all said it was pragmatism, not principle.

00:17:52.000 And that was the black pill, because I thought we were all in this together.

00:17:56.000 I thought we were all for the freedom and the West and our heritage and our future and keeping all of this nonsense like jihad creep, et cetera, outside of our countries and being able to at least air all of this in public.

00:18:10.000 And then they were like, but hold on a second.

00:18:12.000 We think this lady talked to someone who we don't like.

00:18:14.000 Therefore, she's not allowed to participate.

00:18:17.000 The book Death of the West by Pat Buchanan changed my life and I read 200 fun.

00:18:23.000 2001.

00:18:24.000 Right.

00:18:24.000 200 fun when the World Trade Center totally partied its ass off.

00:18:28.000 Oh, I disavow.

00:18:31.000 So I read it.

00:18:32.000 I do that now and interviews.

00:18:33.000 I disavow now and interview.

00:18:35.000 Disavow.

00:18:36.000 I don't think it was good that the World Trade Center collapsed.

00:18:38.000 I think that was two thumbs down.

00:18:42.000 Now, what was amazing about that book, and I had sort of strayed from it, was Buchanan was basically saying, look, Christianity is the core of the West.

00:18:52.000 Now, I understand you want to be atheist.

00:18:54.000 Maybe you're Muslim. 0.99

00:18:55.000 Maybe you're something else.

00:18:56.000 Please recognize that as in Japan, whatever religion they have over there is their core.

00:19:03.000 This is our core.

00:19:04.000 So if you're not going to worship God, our God, at least revere that this is the core.

00:19:09.000 And without it, everything else, it's the errant thread that unravels the whole sweater.

00:19:13.000 And when you did that speech in Rebel, I realized I had sort of forgotten that.

00:19:18.000 I appreciate that.

00:19:18.000 Thank you.

00:19:19.000 Well, from my own vantage point, and then, well, first of all, let's start off with Pop Buchanan's book, Death of the West.

00:19:24.000 It was fantastic.

00:19:25.000 And it was, you know, really the central idea is that, you know, great civilizations commit suicide as opposed to being murdered.

00:19:31.000 And he brings up in chapter two.

00:19:33.000 So the first one I think was about immigration, which is very important.

00:19:36.000 And the second one was about Christianity.

00:19:38.000 And it was this idea of basically Western European and indeed North American countries have been kind of these torchbearers of Christianity.

00:19:47.000 And when America has traditionally voted in a Christian way and had Christian people there, things have run better. 1.00

00:19:55.000 It has created a moral consensus.

00:19:57.000 So this, even when we bring people into our country, the only way immigration is going to work is if we have assimilation. 0.85

00:20:03.000 So the question becomes, who are we bringing in?

00:20:05.000 Are they easy to assimilate?

00:20:06.000 Like, are they a bunch of, you know, voodoo worshiping Zulus? 1.00

00:20:09.000 Or are there some, you know, I don't know, like Anglicans who can get behind, you know, what we're doing here?

00:20:14.000 They got the Magna Carta, we got the Constitution.

00:20:16.000 If they have to be Middle Eastern, let's take in some Iraqi Christians. 1.00

00:20:19.000 Let's take in some Coptic Christians. 0.89

00:20:21.000 Yeah, please, because they're sort of being genocided right now.

00:20:24.000 And what I found most compelling about his book is that it kind of leads you to the sense is that what the West needs is not so much a Donald Trump or a Ronald Reagan, but indeed a St. Paul, because the crisis in America is such that it's not based on a political, social, economic grounds, but it's really a moral one.

00:20:43.000 And so following up to that assimilation questions, who are we bringing in?

00:20:47.000 Can they assimilate?

00:20:48.000 And number two is what are they assimilating to?

00:20:50.000 And ever since you look at the revolutions, two of the biggest ones that have really torn away the Christian patriotic framework of America, you look at the sexual revolution that was largely anti-church and anti-God, and then you look at the anti-war revolution, so to speak, and that was really anti-America. 0.53

00:21:08.000 And both of those things have really led to the undoing of the American social, moral, civic consensus.

00:21:15.000 And what I was talking about in that particular speech that you cited that was, I mean, I was shocked at the reception that I got because I was like, okay, we're talking about the persecution of Christians.

00:21:24.000 Everyone take a nap, sort of a thing.

00:21:28.000 And then I brought it into basically how there's this bifurcated attack against Christianity.

00:21:32.000 And number one is against Islam. 0.97

00:21:33.000 There's a European caliphate that's essentially come to fruition. 0.84

00:21:37.000 I think Europe is, at least when you look at its major cities, basically done for.

00:21:42.000 Like it almost seems like it's too late.

00:21:44.000 But there's so much to salvage over here.

00:21:46.000 And the second thing is these cultural Marxists who have had decades of planning going into what they want to do essentially is create chaos so that way they can make an ordering force through larger government.

00:21:57.000 And so the way that they create chaos is by breaking down the most stabilizing, moralizing factors within our society.

00:22:04.000 And there are two.

00:22:05.000 Number one, the family.

00:22:06.000 Number two, the church.

00:22:07.000 And so from a very personal vantage point, the reason why there's such a symbiotic relationship between Western civilization and Christianity is because, of course, all of our forefathers were indeed inspired by the good book.

00:22:20.000 They were all holy men.

00:22:22.000 And you look at it.

00:22:23.000 It's personal responsibility.

00:22:26.000 That's what this, it's not just freedom.

00:22:28.000 It's personal responsibility.

00:22:29.000 If you screw up, you're going to have to wear it.

00:22:32.000 It's freedom of opportunity.

00:22:32.000 It is freedom.

00:22:34.000 God doesn't put in the stars the fact that you have to believe in him.

00:22:37.000 The same way, you know, you can try hard.

00:22:40.000 You know, you've got freedom.

00:22:41.000 You've got equality before God as well.

00:22:44.000 And you've got equality of opportunity here in North America where you manifest destiny and the rest of it.

00:22:50.000 So all of these sort of work.

00:22:52.000 So when you bring in people who come from a culture that their name is literally submission, it doesn't jive with our mentality.

00:23:01.000 And if we think that the full replacement of our European and Western civilized populace, like it's not in the soil, right? 0.53

00:23:10.000 Like it's not like Britain was a civilized place because this island had some sort of magical powers, right?

00:23:16.000 It's in the people.

00:23:18.000 Which is to say, if you took all of Japan, a very homogenous, you know, certain way of life people, and you took all of Mexico, also a very homogenous certain way of life people, and if you just transplanted them, it's not like the folks, the Mexicans waking up in Tokyo are like, what the hell I say? 0.86

00:23:35.000 I love sushi now.

00:23:36.000 Like they're not going to be doing that, right?

00:23:37.000 Like it's the people.

00:23:38.000 And if we think that people who are now coming to these countries are going to be the same sort of torch bearers without any sort of especially moral authority compelling them to do that, the torch bearers of the things that we believe in, we're kidding ourselves.

00:23:53.000 And indeed, we will do what Pat Buchanan alluded to in his seminal text, and that is our civilization will and indeed is committing suicide.

00:24:03.000 You see what I'm screaming, folks at home?

00:24:05.000 This isn't just a journalist.

00:24:07.000 This is a world leader.

00:24:08.000 And it doesn't hurt that she's an 8.97.

00:24:11.000 You get the best of Melania and Donald.

00:24:15.000 You get that.

00:24:15.000 She's easy on the eyes and the ears.

00:24:17.000 That's both polls.

00:24:21.000 Oh, man.

00:24:22.000 I was an 8.5 a couple weeks, a little, a couple months ago when you last rated me.

00:24:26.000 You liked the longer home.

00:24:27.000 Oh, yeah.

00:24:28.000 Well, this, I don't know, maybe it's pink, but you really are shooting through the roof.

00:24:31.000 I feel sorry for 10 because you're coming in on it like a stampede.

00:24:36.000 Faith, thanks for coming on the show.

00:24:38.000 Unfortunately, we're out of time, but we have to have you back because I feel like we've only barely scratched the surface of this.

00:24:43.000 Thank you for having me on, Gavin.

00:24:43.000 I love it.

00:24:45.000 Congratulations, new program here.

00:24:46.000 You're hitting out of the park.

00:24:47.000 Are you ready for it?

00:24:54.000 Kiana, hi.

00:24:55.000 Hi.

00:24:56.000 What's your favorite Taylor Swift song?

00:25:00.000 Ooh, that new one, I Did Something Bad, just listened to that on a run.

00:25:03.000 That was fantastic.

00:25:04.000 Oh, what about Look What You Made Me Do?

00:25:06.000 Is that old or new?

00:25:08.000 No, that was the first single that dropped on this album.

00:25:11.000 This album is a killer.

00:25:13.000 It's so good.

00:25:14.000 Okay, I know this is a very unpopular opinion, but it is so unabashedly amazing.

00:25:19.000 And the video.

00:25:20.000 Have you seen Look What You Made Me Do?

00:25:21.000 Hold on, let me click on it here.

00:25:25.000 Look what you just made me do.

00:25:27.000 I know she's got her buddies there. 1.00

00:25:29.000 Oh, yeah, she's everyone in the video.

00:25:31.000 She's so unbelievably talented.

00:25:34.000 Stop making that surprise face.

00:25:36.000 You see the end of Look What You Made Me Do where she's all these different characters?

00:25:40.000 What's with that end?

00:25:40.000 I mean, that's like trollery of the highest form.

00:25:45.000 I don't know.

00:25:46.000 To be like self-aware enough to know how to make fun of how everyone already makes fun of you.

00:25:52.000 Yeah.

00:25:53.000 That's some good stuff.

00:25:55.000 Well, what's unique about her is you go, oh, whatever. 0.64

00:25:58.000 You're some pretty girl or some Old fat bald guy writes all your songs, and then you start looking it up, and it seems like she wrote every song.

00:26:07.000 Yeah, it's always like her, Max Martin, and Jack Antonoff.

00:26:11.000 No, I mean, like, she writes all of her own songs, which is why, like, even if you could say there's nothing terribly complex or innovative, which I don't think you can say that much anymore, like in the past, when she was really more just like basic, like, country pop star or whatever, the fact that she was 17 years old writing all of her own stuff, I mean, that's impressive.

00:26:29.000 It is, it's so rare.

00:26:32.000 It really is.

00:26:33.000 I mean, Katy Perry doesn't write any of her own stuff, you know?

00:26:37.000 I mean, I've heard that she can't even read sheet music.

00:26:39.000 She has, you know, like, so it's not like she's like playing her own guitars in like her shows.

00:26:44.000 And, like, mind you, I'm not saying like Taylor Swift is the greatest songwriter of all time.

00:26:48.000 Like, I think, like, like there are people who are more of like a jack of all trades, like Beck or whatever.

00:26:53.000 But the fact that she's been able to, I mean, what, this is her fourth album that sold over a million copies in a week.

00:26:59.000 And here's the other thing, too.

00:27:01.000 Every time you look her up, like, say you go, Taylor Swift top tracks.

00:27:05.000 If the article is, say, like five or six years old, that's a totally different Taylor Swift.

00:27:09.000 And you'll get all these country jams, like this one.

00:27:13.000 Yeah.

00:27:17.000 It's easy to forget that she's only like 27 or 28.

00:27:24.000 Like, she was huge when I was in, like, elementary school.

00:27:34.000 Yeah, she's and and that was around that we're never getting back together.

00:27:38.000 That was a killer jam.

00:27:40.000 So there's some sort of resentment, though.

00:27:42.000 Like, instead of going with Beyonce, they go, she's a goddess.

00:27:46.000 She doesn't write her own songs.

00:27:47.000 If you criticize her, it could end your career.

00:27:48.000 And you look at her lyrics, they're terrible.

00:27:50.000 But with Taylor Strift, they go, all right, I need to find something wrong with her. 0.96

00:27:53.000 So they say, she could have been more political when Hillary was running. 1.00

00:27:59.000 Okay, so I think, all right, now you're really going to get me going.

00:28:05.000 Okay, let's look at every brand that has chosen to politicize over the last two years.

00:28:13.000 You have the Hannity fans smashing their own Keurig machines.

00:28:17.000 You have everyone on the left waging the most pointless boycotts against like Chick-fil-A.

00:28:28.000 Papa Johns is now racist pizza.

00:28:30.000 Okay, so the reason why Trump can afford to do these sorts of like culture warrior stunts is because realistically his approval rating isn't that high.

00:28:39.000 So if he can just divide half the country, this is a point that Rich Lowry made at Politico.

00:28:43.000 If he can divide the country to make a 50-50 issue while he's like 60 points underwater in approval rating, that's a win for him.

00:28:52.000 If you are a brand trying to gain widespread popularity in America, you can't just alienate half the country.

00:28:58.000 You can't just call half the country deplorables.

00:29:00.000 It's not your job.

00:29:01.000 Not everything has to be political.

00:29:03.000 Stop politicizing pop music for little girls.

00:29:07.000 And okay, mind you, like, I think that there is a time and there is a place.

00:29:12.000 I think that when Kendrick Lamar raps about growing up in Compton with gang violence, I don't think it's completely unwarranted for that to have like a tinge or like an undertone of policy or an undertone of politics.

00:29:24.000 Like I understand, like I'm not going to say that no music should involve politics because obviously it's inherent.

00:29:28.000 But the insane amount of virtue signaling you see from someone like Katie Perry, like what has she done for women's empowerment?

00:29:35.000 She sat with D-Ray Mackinson cross-legged and said that she's woke now because she cut her hair short.

00:29:41.000 Yeah, no, I mean it basically went from how did she get famous?

00:29:44.000 She got famous by, I mean, if we want to get really woke here, she got famous by appropriating lesbian culture, being BHC, you know, like taking her top off. 1.00

00:29:54.000 And then when the whole sex appeal stopped working for her because she turned 30, she like is now all, you know, woke.

00:30:01.000 Oh, girl, the claws are out.

00:30:03.000 Rare.

00:30:04.000 And then with Taylor Swift.

00:30:10.000 In the middle of the night.

00:30:15.000 I mean, yeah, then also with Taylor Swift, they said, all right, the alt-right seems to like her.

00:30:21.000 They photoshopped her in Nazi stuff. 0.54

00:30:23.000 Therefore, Taylor Swift is to blame.

00:30:26.000 Like, you're culpable for all your fans' behavior now.

00:30:29.000 Why can't they let a freakishly talented pop singer for young girls be a freakishly talented pop singer for young girls? 1.00

00:30:37.000 Why does everything have to be Trump?

00:30:40.000 It's really weird.

00:30:40.000 I don't know.

00:30:41.000 And again, I'm sympathetic to being so opposed to Trump that people who actually publicly do sympathize with him, there is some sort of like aversion to.

00:30:57.000 But she hasn't come out in favor of anyone at all.

00:31:00.000 I think the only like political thing that she really did was like, I mean, it wasn't even political.

00:31:04.000 It was like on election day.

00:31:05.000 She was like, go vote and like post an Instagram or something about it. 0.60

00:31:08.000 I don't think that there's anything wrong with that.

00:31:10.000 I think if you want to make your music accessible to everyone in the country, everyone who voted for Hillary, who voted for Bernie, and who voted for Trump or voted third party, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

00:31:19.000 I mean, at what point do we have something that's unifying?

00:31:22.000 I mean, like, we cannot get to the point as a country where there's nothing that we can all just like sit around and laugh about.

00:31:30.000 Like, the fact that it's now so heavily politicized to sit down, have a beer, and watch an NFL game without making it a political statement.

00:31:37.000 I mean, that's sad.

00:31:38.000 *music*

00:31:43.000 They've ruined everything.

00:31:44.000 They've ruined movies.

00:31:45.000 They ruined comedy.

00:31:47.000 They ruined pop music now.

00:31:49.000 I mean, what's next?

00:31:51.000 Boxing is a problem?

00:31:52.000 Football, by the way, was already a problem because of concussions.

00:31:55.000 So they double down on a lot of these things.

00:31:57.000 They just can't stop crapping on everyone's parade.

00:32:00.000 What a bunch of party poopers, huh?

00:32:03.000 Well, no, it's just funny because in the okay, in the 60s, all the Woodstock hippies, yeah, they were Marxists.

00:32:09.000 Yeah, they believed in Solinsky.

00:32:10.000 But I mean, they just partied all the time and did drugs and had fun.

00:32:14.000 Now it's like they're puritanical.

00:32:16.000 It's like a religion.

00:32:17.000 You know, it's a religion to social justice.

00:32:19.000 And it's so like anti-fun and it's so anti-social.

00:32:24.000 Well, it's also ostracizing you youngsters because young people are naturally rebellious.

00:32:28.000 They don't like rules.

00:32:29.000 And the Left is all about rules.

00:32:31.000 Tiana, we're out of time, I'm afraid, but thank you for defending Taylor.

00:32:37.000 She's a goddess.

00:32:40.000 She is.

00:32:42.000 Thanks, Mike.

00:32:42.000 Bye.

00:32:43.000 Bye.

00:32:53.000 Hey, folks, we're here at Westway Diner on 44th and 9th, and we're starting a new show today called Onion Rings with Rick Shapiro.

00:33:02.000 Rick, thanks for coming on your own show.

00:33:04.000 It's the least I can do for the people in my neighborhood.

00:33:10.000 The warning gangs and who are trying to raise themselves over again through inner child workshops and dance theater tradition.

00:33:22.000 You know, I remember growing up, we would see these kids, and we all seemed to have our heads screwed on right when we were young.

00:33:29.000 And then you and I saw these guys get into crime, get into the hood, and it was like a ship drifting away at sea.

00:33:37.000 And we said, you're just, you're going to end up dead or in jail.

00:33:40.000 And they're like, fuck you, bitch. 1.00

00:33:41.000 I'm going to be somebody.

00:33:43.000 I'm going to have that roly on my wrist.

00:33:46.000 And I feel like we're the only kids from the hood who survived.

00:33:53.000 How did you fare?

00:33:55.000 How did you do?

00:33:57.000 And you're like, ACE is big.

00:33:59.000 And I'm like, okay, because I'm trying to figure out how to get out of the mob.

00:34:03.000 I got out of propriety introducing because my ACE brother said, is there a door in that room?

00:34:12.000 I said, yeah, he goes, we'll open it and leave.

00:34:16.000 And I was like, well, he must be a Buddhist.

00:34:20.000 You know, I never thought of that.

00:34:22.000 And for one thing, if you don't mind, I left the mob.

00:34:28.000 I had to tell a shrink.

00:34:32.000 I was in the mob and I said, the way I left the mob was they always came up to me with their coats when I disappear.

00:34:45.000 And they were fat and they leaned against you, pushed your back against the wall with their guts.

00:34:51.000 And I was working on this thing.

00:34:54.000 I was paying my way to an acting class with a mob and all that.

00:34:59.000 And then I left.

00:35:03.000 You left the mob?

00:35:04.000 Yeah, and you go, and then I said, look at that cocaine, man.

00:35:08.000 I said, I'm out of here.

00:35:09.000 I want that feeling back.

00:35:10.000 I want to feel alive.

00:35:12.000 And so the guy's on there about a plane.

00:35:20.000 What's the play?

00:35:22.000 The most fascinating.

00:35:23.000 Albert Cino and Charles Mumri's Blind?

00:35:28.000 Buffalo.

00:35:32.000 I forgot what that meant, but the actress told me how he knows.

00:35:37.000 He goes, I was a thief.

00:35:39.000 I sold candy bars in Philadelphia, whatever.

00:35:42.000 I did this, I did that.

00:35:43.000 I said, okay, okay.

00:35:45.000 And then all of a sudden, I walked by the guy with the coat and his gut hanging out.

00:35:53.000 He gave me that look like a mobster.

00:35:55.000 He goes, look over.

00:35:58.000 And it meant, I'm going to be following you all the way home.

00:36:02.000 So I said, I got to deal with now.

00:36:04.000 So I went back and he pushed his gut against me. 0.52

00:36:09.000 And I heard my small words.

00:36:15.000 Small.

00:36:16.000 One letter at a time.

00:36:19.000 I went, I just wanted him, I'm inching my feet away from him so he can't tell, to be an actor.

00:36:36.000 And I was like, like five cereal boxes down by then.

00:36:40.000 And he's got that look at him.

00:36:41.000 He's always having.

00:36:42.000 He goes, how come I can't hurt this kid?

00:36:44.000 I can never hurt this kid.

00:36:46.000 I was like, because you're like my uncle.

00:36:48.000 You guys are my uncles.

00:36:49.000 Nobody believes me.

00:36:50.000 You know, I always hear from them and I'd cry and shit.

00:36:55.000 But it's so great.

00:36:56.000 Yeah, he said, hey, look.

00:37:01.000 But that had to do with fats.

00:37:05.000 How did it feel for you?

00:37:07.000 And when did you know you got out?

00:37:10.000 For me, it was a much shorter story.

00:37:12.000 I just got plastic surgery and I changed my name and I disappeared.

00:37:17.000 And I said to the feds, what do I do now?

00:37:19.000 And they said, just make sure you're never on camera and you never record anything.

00:37:24.000 You serious?

00:37:34.000 Bye.

00:37:35.000 Thank you.

00:37:39.000 What?

00:37:39.000 Oh, get off my lung.

00:37:46.000 Are you ready for it?

Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - November 20, 2017

Get Off My Lawn #32 | Dough Vinci

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