Gavin McInnes talks about Taylor Swift and the alt-right, and how she could be the new Maggie Thatcher of Canada. Plus, Rick Shapiro and Faith Goldie are back on the podcast, and Gavin gives his take on it all.
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00:00:12.000Live from New York, it's Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McInnes.
00:02:08.000And I'm going to talk to her about how she could be the new Maggie Thatcher of Canada.
00:02:12.000And I'm going to give her career advice and we'll see if she either takes it or can explain to me why I'm wrong.
00:02:18.000I have a feeling it will be the latter because she may actually be smarter than me, which is shocking.
00:02:23.000As a sexist, I find that pretty hard to take.
00:02:26.000But without further to-do, as people who don't understand colloquialisms like to say, let's get started with the Goofing with the Gals episode.
00:02:36.000I also started a new show today, Rick Shapiro.
00:02:40.000I'm going to go to his diner every day and have onion rings with him and hear him talk his brilliant psychobabble that sounds like mumbling because his Parkinson's is so bad.
00:02:50.000But when you actually parse it and listen closely, you realize there's the same old Rick Shapiro genius inside of there.
00:03:41.000But, you know, in maybe 10 years, 15 years, I really think she could be the Thatcher of Canada.
00:03:47.000And mostly because she recognizes that Christianity is the backbone of Western civilization.
00:03:55.000You know, before 9-11, we had this pattern here where, and it's still prevalent, but Christians were about a third of the population and Muslims, sorry, two-thirds and Muslims were about a third, or whatever the exact numbers are.
00:07:02.000So often we're told, love your You know how after Trump was elected, you're walking down the street and you sort of go, I can't believe Trump is president.
00:07:35.000We're going to make Canada great again.
00:07:38.000Your neighbor like yourself as a reason to take in refugees, as a reason to open up your backyard, as a reason for self-sacrificial love, as a reason to put your neighbor before yourself.
00:07:48.000But you'll understand, as a Christian, reading this, love your neighbor as yourself.
00:07:54.000God commands us to love ourselves as well.
00:07:58.000And right now, we have failed within the body of Christ.
00:08:24.000She's there on the ground at these places, working with these people, going to these abandoned churches, doing news bits, shooting videos in churches where there's a bullet hole through a Bible.
00:08:37.000Hey, SJWs, hey, liberals, do you have a tenth, a hundredth, a thousandth of that conviction for your beliefs?
00:08:57.000A woman and a hijab can be yelled at and we hear about it for one whole week, maybe longer.
00:09:02.000People are literally being slaughtered and no one will talk about it in the media or in our politics.
00:09:11.000215 million Christians, that's 10% of our global population of Christians worldwide, are socially disadvantaged, harassed, actively oppressed, or even killed for their beliefs.
00:10:09.000Then we joked that there'd be a giant statue of Faith Goldie wearing her lumberjack jacket and her baseball hat with moles and golden and with a dart in her hand and a Lebatz blue.
00:12:18.000That's why they're not naturalizing millions of Arabs in the West Bank because they don't want the Knesset to be like a giant Muslim Arabic, you know, house of parliament, so to speak.
00:12:28.000I believe in their self-determination, but that's not enough.
00:12:32.000I was at the point where I wanted to become a Nazi skinhead there, but for Israel.
00:12:37.000So I would like be beating up Palestinians and stuff with my boots, but I'd have the Star of David.
00:12:43.000But anyway, so you sit with him for an hour, then you get your job back at Rebel, but it doesn't matter for how long.
00:12:50.000It could be like six months, one month.
00:12:54.000And now the history books say, Faith Goldie, when you're running for prime minister in 10 years, the history books say, blah, blah, blah, Faith Goldie, misunderstanding about a rally, but it was worked out she was back at the rebel.
00:13:07.000And so now the story in the history books is when there's a problem, she goes in and fixes it.
00:13:12.000This is what she's going to do to the Canadian economy here in the year 2029.
00:13:18.000I think you give too much credit to the media to be in any way generous of just my own career and my own abilities.
00:13:27.000I know that Ezra would be happy to have me back, and I appreciate you having me on your show to give me bloody career and life advice, Kevin.
00:13:37.000Ezra and I, I mean, I still have a huge amount of respect for him.
00:13:40.000You know, I still consider his whole family part of my friends, frankly.
00:13:44.000And most of the folks at the Rebel, I still keep in regular contact with.
00:13:48.000There was no need for us to assign an NDA at the end of it because Ezra knows that I'm not going to go, you know, saying bad things about him because especially in this country, he's the only guy in the game when it comes to, you know, speaking right-wing common sense in the media sphere.
00:14:24.000With respect to going forward with Ezra, first of all, I've never ever done anything for the sake of how I am perceived by another.
00:14:32.000I've been in this game since I was 19 years old.
00:14:34.000So I've been called a homophobe, a transphobe, Islamophobe.
00:14:38.000Now it's racist and white supremacist and anti-Semite.
00:14:42.000My record speaks for itself that I'm none of those things, but none of that matters.
00:14:46.000For me, all of those labels are just a code word for heretic in the modern world.
00:14:50.000And I'm happy to be called a heretic in the modern world.
00:14:53.000That's part of my calling as a Christian and indeed as a, you know, a common sense conservative in this tide of just sinister backwardsness.
00:15:04.000And on top of that, from a very, so I wouldn't go there just so that way the press would be in some way allieved by it.
00:15:10.000Well, they thought that she was a Nazi, but now it's all good because she got taken back.
00:15:14.000And the second thing, and this is more of a personal note, if Ezra's watching this, I'm sure he'd feel the same way, to be frank.
00:15:21.000Going back to Ezra, now, Ezra and I had an amazing, amazing professional relationship where he was very much like a, he was a free speech hero in my eyes.
00:15:30.000This was a guy who, you know, first published the Muhammad cartoons here in Canada.
00:15:34.000And that's how he first got on my radar when I was probably a university student.
00:15:37.000And so I always had him on this kind of pedestal.
00:15:40.000And he mentored me in many, many ways.
00:15:43.000And I think that myself using my free speech and then getting burned for it when I was in the role of guest on a show, not host.
00:15:54.000It wasn't my job to launch an inquisition against the crypto report.
00:15:57.000It was my job to report on Charlottesville, which is what I did.
00:16:01.000And yeah, I did it differently than everyone else because I pointed to the fact that some people weren't allowed to use the First Amendment rights, despite even having a court order to go forward and do just that.
00:16:09.000But I think that whole topic honestly has been beaten dead in the media.
00:16:13.000So here I am, you know, everyone, the whole world, every day, my Google alerts are popping up with Faith Goldie's a neo-Nazi international headlines.
00:16:23.000And someone who I loved and respected and continued to, and held up on this pedestal, in a way, you know, he, I suppose, at least from a bird's eye view, agreed with them.
00:16:36.000And so it would be now if we were to go back together, working together, it would be almost like going back to this from a personal standpoint, and this is not a slate against Azure.
00:16:44.000I'm just being honest as to why I've not accepted any sort of overtures to go back there.
00:16:47.000It would be like going back to a boyfriend who cheated on you.
00:17:50.000They all said it was pragmatism, not principle.
00:17:52.000And that was the black pill, because I thought we were all in this together.
00:17:56.000I thought we were all for the freedom and the West and our heritage and our future and keeping all of this nonsense like jihad creep, et cetera, outside of our countries and being able to at least air all of this in public.
00:18:10.000And then they were like, but hold on a second.
00:18:12.000We think this lady talked to someone who we don't like.
00:18:14.000Therefore, she's not allowed to participate.
00:18:17.000The book Death of the West by Pat Buchanan changed my life and I read 200 fun.
00:18:42.000Now, what was amazing about that book, and I had sort of strayed from it, was Buchanan was basically saying, look, Christianity is the core of the West.
00:18:52.000Now, I understand you want to be atheist.
00:19:33.000So the first one I think was about immigration, which is very important.
00:19:36.000And the second one was about Christianity.
00:19:38.000And it was this idea of basically Western European and indeed North American countries have been kind of these torchbearers of Christianity.
00:19:47.000And when America has traditionally voted in a Christian way and had Christian people there, things have run better.
00:20:21.000Yeah, please, because they're sort of being genocided right now.
00:20:24.000And what I found most compelling about his book is that it kind of leads you to the sense is that what the West needs is not so much a Donald Trump or a Ronald Reagan, but indeed a St. Paul, because the crisis in America is such that it's not based on a political, social, economic grounds, but it's really a moral one.
00:20:43.000And so following up to that assimilation questions, who are we bringing in?
00:20:48.000And number two is what are they assimilating to?
00:20:50.000And ever since you look at the revolutions, two of the biggest ones that have really torn away the Christian patriotic framework of America, you look at the sexual revolution that was largely anti-church and anti-God, and then you look at the anti-war revolution, so to speak, and that was really anti-America.
00:21:08.000And both of those things have really led to the undoing of the American social, moral, civic consensus.
00:21:15.000And what I was talking about in that particular speech that you cited that was, I mean, I was shocked at the reception that I got because I was like, okay, we're talking about the persecution of Christians.
00:21:33.000There's a European caliphate that's essentially come to fruition.
00:21:37.000I think Europe is, at least when you look at its major cities, basically done for.
00:21:42.000Like it almost seems like it's too late.
00:21:44.000But there's so much to salvage over here.
00:21:46.000And the second thing is these cultural Marxists who have had decades of planning going into what they want to do essentially is create chaos so that way they can make an ordering force through larger government.
00:21:57.000And so the way that they create chaos is by breaking down the most stabilizing, moralizing factors within our society.
00:22:07.000And so from a very personal vantage point, the reason why there's such a symbiotic relationship between Western civilization and Christianity is because, of course, all of our forefathers were indeed inspired by the good book.
00:23:18.000Which is to say, if you took all of Japan, a very homogenous, you know, certain way of life people, and you took all of Mexico, also a very homogenous certain way of life people, and if you just transplanted them, it's not like the folks, the Mexicans waking up in Tokyo are like, what the hell I say?
00:23:38.000And if we think that people who are now coming to these countries are going to be the same sort of torch bearers without any sort of especially moral authority compelling them to do that, the torch bearers of the things that we believe in, we're kidding ourselves.
00:23:53.000And indeed, we will do what Pat Buchanan alluded to in his seminal text, and that is our civilization will and indeed is committing suicide.
00:24:03.000You see what I'm screaming, folks at home?
00:25:55.000Well, what's unique about her is you go, oh, whatever.
00:25:58.000You're some pretty girl or some Old fat bald guy writes all your songs, and then you start looking it up, and it seems like she wrote every song.
00:26:07.000Yeah, it's always like her, Max Martin, and Jack Antonoff.
00:26:11.000No, I mean, like, she writes all of her own songs, which is why, like, even if you could say there's nothing terribly complex or innovative, which I don't think you can say that much anymore, like in the past, when she was really more just like basic, like, country pop star or whatever, the fact that she was 17 years old writing all of her own stuff, I mean, that's impressive.
00:28:30.000Okay, so the reason why Trump can afford to do these sorts of like culture warrior stunts is because realistically his approval rating isn't that high.
00:28:39.000So if he can just divide half the country, this is a point that Rich Lowry made at Politico.
00:28:43.000If he can divide the country to make a 50-50 issue while he's like 60 points underwater in approval rating, that's a win for him.
00:28:52.000If you are a brand trying to gain widespread popularity in America, you can't just alienate half the country.
00:28:58.000You can't just call half the country deplorables.
00:29:03.000Stop politicizing pop music for little girls.
00:29:07.000And okay, mind you, like, I think that there is a time and there is a place.
00:29:12.000I think that when Kendrick Lamar raps about growing up in Compton with gang violence, I don't think it's completely unwarranted for that to have like a tinge or like an undertone of policy or an undertone of politics.
00:29:24.000Like I understand, like I'm not going to say that no music should involve politics because obviously it's inherent.
00:29:28.000But the insane amount of virtue signaling you see from someone like Katie Perry, like what has she done for women's empowerment?
00:29:35.000She sat with D-Ray Mackinson cross-legged and said that she's woke now because she cut her hair short.
00:29:41.000Yeah, no, I mean it basically went from how did she get famous?
00:29:44.000She got famous by, I mean, if we want to get really woke here, she got famous by appropriating lesbian culture, being BHC, you know, like taking her top off.
00:29:54.000And then when the whole sex appeal stopped working for her because she turned 30, she like is now all, you know, woke.
00:30:41.000And again, I'm sympathetic to being so opposed to Trump that people who actually publicly do sympathize with him, there is some sort of like aversion to.
00:30:57.000But she hasn't come out in favor of anyone at all.
00:31:00.000I think the only like political thing that she really did was like, I mean, it wasn't even political.
00:31:05.000She was like, go vote and like post an Instagram or something about it.
00:31:08.000I don't think that there's anything wrong with that.
00:31:10.000I think if you want to make your music accessible to everyone in the country, everyone who voted for Hillary, who voted for Bernie, and who voted for Trump or voted third party, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
00:31:19.000I mean, at what point do we have something that's unifying?
00:31:22.000I mean, like, we cannot get to the point as a country where there's nothing that we can all just like sit around and laugh about.
00:31:30.000Like, the fact that it's now so heavily politicized to sit down, have a beer, and watch an NFL game without making it a political statement.