Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - November 21, 2017


Get Off My Lawn #33 | NYPD LOO


Episode Stats

Length

43 minutes

Words per Minute

171.24951

Word Count

7,378

Sentence Count

656

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

24


Summary

On this episode of Thick & Thin, the guys discuss a recent Antifa attack at an Illinois college, a self-help group run by racist white people, and why it's hard to get along with other people of color.


Transcript

00:00:35.000 I love that song.
00:00:36.000 What an incredible album.
00:00:38.000 The beat, known in America as the English Beat, Dave Wakeling and Ranking Roger have split, and there's two English beats now.
00:00:48.000 They still tour.
00:00:49.000 They're still great.
00:00:50.000 What an amazing time that was for Britain, all those Jamaicans, the Yardies, making beautiful ska music with their British friends.
00:00:59.000 That's what I call assimilation.
00:01:02.000 New York Post today, NYPD Lou, Brooklyn College kids banish cops.
00:01:08.000 Get this.
00:01:10.000 Brooklyn College has said that if police officers have to use a bathroom, they can use this disgusting one at the other end of the campus where no students go because cops, a lot of students don't feel comfortable around cops.
00:01:25.000 It makes safe spaces feel not so safe.
00:01:28.000 Well, there was a recent attack at Illinois college where an Antifa faculty member attacked two Trump kids, two college Republicans.
00:01:42.000 So we'll have that video on the show, as well as those two college Republicans.
00:01:47.000 We also have my buddy Steve, who hates everywhere but America.
00:01:52.000 Every time I bring up another country, he says, I don't care.
00:01:54.000 Why are you talking about that place?
00:01:55.000 Like, it could be Germany, it could be anywhere.
00:01:58.000 He doesn't care.
00:01:59.000 And so I sent him to Times Square and tried to get him to learn about other cultures, other people.
00:02:04.000 And he came out saying, I love America even more.
00:02:07.000 So we have footage of that.
00:02:09.000 We're also going to talk about this group that has a self-help group for racists where black, white, Jewish, old people get together and talk about how racist they are, which is obviously not racist.
00:02:25.000 It's stupid.
00:02:26.000 And I think that's it, right, Dave?
00:02:30.000 Oh, yeah.
00:02:31.000 I have to talk about my weekend.
00:02:33.000 I was at Restoration Weekend, and I'm going to talk about that for a long ass time because I was with Steve Benn and Mark Stein, Katie Hopkins, James O'Keefe, Ann Coulter, Mickey Kaus, Dave Rubin, Red Pill Black, Joy Villa.
00:02:46.000 I mean, I was with every Sebastian Gorka, every relevant conservative in the world.
00:02:51.000 Ezra Levant was there, and we partied.
00:02:53.000 Let me tell you about it.
00:03:00.000 I was at Restoration Weekend this weekend, and I just got back.
00:03:05.000 A lot of fun.
00:03:06.000 Actually, left early.
00:03:08.000 I got conversationed out.
00:03:10.000 I don't know.
00:03:10.000 I mean, it was very stimulating.
00:03:12.000 Too stimulating, maybe.
00:03:14.000 And I was talking to intellectuals the entire time.
00:03:18.000 But eventually, you know, you kind of get conversationed out.
00:03:21.000 And as far as the speeches go, a lot of them are directed to old rich people.
00:03:27.000 And it's saying, we're doing this fight.
00:03:29.000 We're fighting hard.
00:03:30.000 We'd appreciate your donations.
00:03:32.000 I don't have a donation account.
00:03:35.000 So I don't know.
00:03:38.000 I kind of got spoiled.
00:03:39.000 I also, to talk a little more about myself, I'm not a leisure guy.
00:03:44.000 So yes, there's these incredibly interesting talks and stimulating conversations, but a lot of it is just wandering around the Breakers and West Palm Beach.
00:03:52.000 And if I was retired, I would love that.
00:03:54.000 I'd go for a swim, but I don't enjoy leisure.
00:03:57.000 I always feel like I should be with my kids.
00:04:00.000 You know, every time I'm at a bar and I'm having a dumb conversation with someone and my kids are awake, like it's in the day, I go, I should be at home with my children.
00:04:08.000 I should be, you know, helping to enrich their lives rather than talking to a stranger.
00:04:12.000 Now, of course, you need a life at some point, but if I'm going to take a vacation, I'd rather do it with my wife or something.
00:04:19.000 Anyway, I hung out with Joy Villa a lot.
00:04:23.000 I don't know why we get along so well.
00:04:25.000 It's tough for me as a racist to get along with black people so well, but it seems like every party I go to, even my kids, were genetically drawn to people of color.
00:04:35.000 Maybe it's my curse.
00:04:36.000 It's my punishment for being a Nazi.
00:04:38.000 She actually showed me, her manager showed me an email she received warning her that I have secret Nazi tattoos and she shouldn't be seen with me.
00:04:48.000 And then I started talking to other black people I know and they go, yeah, I got that email too.
00:04:52.000 I just ignored it.
00:04:54.000 Why does the left care who we hang out with?
00:04:57.000 I think it's because they see blacks as their little pets and they don't like us with their pets.
00:05:04.000 Dante Nero was this black comedian that I started Proud Boys with and This American Life NPR, they hated that.
00:05:12.000 So they did a whole thing with him where they said they're secretly Nazis and he went, no, okay, I believe you and stabbed us in the back.
00:05:18.000 So it works sometimes.
00:05:21.000 Robert Spencer was there.
00:05:23.000 He's now known as not Richard Spencer.
00:05:26.000 Someone was asking me about my tattoos.
00:05:28.000 All these old rich donors too, they feel like they just own you.
00:05:32.000 And I sort of felt like going, I'm not courting any donors, so you can't just grab my arms and ask me what my tattoos mean.
00:05:38.000 But Robert Spencer was there and I go, oh, it's a long diet tribe denying the Holocaust.
00:05:44.000 And Robert Spencer goes, really?
00:05:47.000 And I go, dude, of course not, you lunatic.
00:05:52.000 He's usually a pretty funny guy.
00:05:53.000 And I've just finished his book, Islamophobe, which I highly recommend.
00:05:57.000 He's sort of making it cool to be Islamophobic.
00:06:00.000 I am an Islamophobe.
00:06:03.000 Then that night, on Friday night, I had drinks with Ann Coulter and Mickey Kaus.
00:06:09.000 And it was the most engaging and intellectual conversation of my life.
00:06:15.000 Half of the time I was there, I was thinking, if this was transcribed, it could be like my dinner with Andre.
00:06:21.000 It would be an amazing movie or book.
00:06:24.000 And there's even a plot twist in it.
00:06:27.000 At one point, this guy just sits down and starts staring at us, listening to our interesting conversation.
00:06:34.000 And, you know, I don't want things taken out of context, or someone's playing devil's advocate, and he goes and runs and tells the media that and gets it all backwards, which happens all of the time.
00:06:45.000 So he's ruining our evening.
00:06:47.000 He's ruining our incredible conversation.
00:06:48.000 So I jump on a grenade and I just lean over to him and I go, what are you doing?
00:06:54.000 And I realize he's a mental patient.
00:06:56.000 And he goes, I'm just eavesdropping.
00:06:57.000 And I go, eavesdropping.
00:06:58.000 Think of that word.
00:06:59.000 It has negative connotations, does it not?
00:07:01.000 No one proudly says, hi, I'm an eavesdropper.
00:07:04.000 It's seen as a bad thing because it is a bad thing.
00:07:07.000 So stop it.
00:07:08.000 And he goes, I have a right to sit here and have dinner.
00:07:11.000 And I go, yeah, sort of.
00:07:12.000 And then he starts getting angry with me.
00:07:14.000 So I start getting angry with him.
00:07:16.000 And now we're borderline getting kind of violent.
00:07:20.000 And he says, wasn't there a review of your book where you talked about watching someone's head blow up?
00:07:26.000 Didn't you see someone get their head blown off?
00:07:29.000 What?
00:07:30.000 And I go, no, are you threatening to blow my head off?
00:07:33.000 And I'm like looking at my knife and my peripheral vision.
00:07:35.000 You know, this is the life of a conservative.
00:07:36.000 And I'm with it.
00:07:37.000 He's likely a conservative, this guy.
00:07:39.000 And then I just said, look at you, okay?
00:07:41.000 You're mentally ill.
00:07:42.000 You're wearing ski pants.
00:07:44.000 He had ski pants on.
00:07:45.000 He had a suit on, but the pants of the suit said assent.
00:07:49.000 And I could tell they were for skiing.
00:07:52.000 I go, you're damaged.
00:07:53.000 Your divorce ruined your life.
00:07:54.000 You're wearing ski pants.
00:07:55.000 You're not normal.
00:07:56.000 Get out of here.
00:07:57.000 So he just, he was in a rage, but he was facing away.
00:08:00.000 So it worked.
00:08:01.000 That's what you do.
00:08:04.000 But wow, was it fascinating?
00:08:05.000 Then I saw Steve Bannon talk, which was great.
00:08:08.000 That guy is just so charming and so relaxed.
00:08:13.000 Maybe charming isn't the word.
00:08:14.000 Like Jesse Waters is charming.
00:08:15.000 He charmed the pants off the whole place when he did his.
00:08:18.000 But Steve Bannon is just sort of soothing and intelligent and disarming in a way.
00:08:25.000 When he was talking, you feel like you're talking to your uncle or something, your slightly drunk uncle.
00:08:32.000 No, not, I mean like four beers.
00:08:34.000 Okay, relax.
00:08:35.000 I have to be so careful now when I talk about people.
00:08:38.000 But he was just saying, you know, people talk, you know, no script, no teleprompter.
00:08:41.000 He goes, people talk about how smart Hillary is.
00:08:44.000 I think she's dumb as a stick.
00:08:46.000 And then he also said, I am a fire-breathing nationalist and a patriot, and I'm proud of it.
00:08:55.000 The crowd was going nuts.
00:08:56.000 And he just talked about the election.
00:08:58.000 And one great story he had, too, is he talked about Ohio.
00:09:02.000 There's an Ohio state fair, and Hillary is such a snob, such a mobster, that she goes, I'm not deigning to go there.
00:09:08.000 That's stupid.
00:09:09.000 Trump takes a helicopter there, lands in the middle of the state fair, comes out, they're selling pork chops.
00:09:16.000 He grabs one, cleans it off the bone, and then he yells to the kids, who wants helicopter rides?
00:09:22.000 And then he starts taking 10-year-olds, 13-year-olds, little kids on helicopter rides.
00:09:28.000 They go around for a little bit and back again.
00:09:29.000 Who's next?
00:09:30.000 That is why he won.
00:09:32.000 Because he likes people.
00:09:34.000 He likes Americans.
00:09:36.000 And Greg Gutfeld actually once told me that about Trump, that he's really curious about you.
00:09:42.000 What's going on?
00:09:42.000 How many kids do you have?
00:09:43.000 Are they at private school, public school?
00:09:44.000 Oh, okay, where is that?
00:09:46.000 Are they into sports?
00:09:47.000 Like, he wants to know everything about you.
00:09:49.000 And that's the kind of person who genuinely enjoys people.
00:09:52.000 He's a chatty Kathy.
00:09:55.000 I did a talk.
00:09:56.000 I just did it about Proud Boys because I feel like there's a lot of doom and gloom.
00:10:00.000 And Katie Hopkins was there.
00:10:01.000 She was very careful to say, well, she said, I'm not Milo, by the way, nor am I his mom.
00:10:08.000 But she said, I don't want to be doom and gloom here.
00:10:10.000 But it is dire.
00:10:12.000 Sorry, I'm off at a tangent, but she said that, you know, she's had the police around her house for her views.
00:10:19.000 They've even threatened to take her children away.
00:10:21.000 And she said to the child services people, but we've just made them prawn salad.
00:10:26.000 That's quite posh.
00:10:30.000 But she was amazing.
00:10:32.000 I went up to her and I said, excuse me, Katie, I'm sorry.
00:10:34.000 And then I just dropped to my knees and went, not worthy, not worthy.
00:10:38.000 We hugged.
00:10:39.000 I saw her and Ezra Levant chatting, and they might be, I think he was trying to woo her for Rebel.
00:10:44.000 There's some gossip.
00:10:45.000 I had drinks with Ezra, but one frustrating thing about that man is he does not drink.
00:10:51.000 He'll have one drink.
00:10:53.000 We went to Paris after Battaclan and he had one drink.
00:10:56.000 But so Katie was saying, I don't want to be negative, and it is fight, and we're here to fight.
00:11:01.000 And I just, I did my talk to sort of say to these old timers, look, there are those of us who are fighting, physically fighting.
00:11:08.000 We are going to these things.
00:11:10.000 If Lauren Southern, Ben Shapiro, Steven Crowder, they want to do a talk, we will be there, and we will physically fight our way in and out.
00:11:18.000 So I don't like this.
00:11:20.000 I got a lot of old people saying, I'm glad I'm on the last nine holes.
00:11:25.000 Or Coulter saying, I'm glad I don't have kids because the future doesn't look bright.
00:11:30.000 I don't like that kind of talk.
00:11:31.000 It's quitter talk.
00:11:33.000 So I made it clear to these old timers that there's some of us who enjoy this fight.
00:11:40.000 Emi Horowitz was there talking about his videos, which are amazing, so ballsy.
00:11:46.000 I'm going to have him on the show.
00:11:47.000 I'm going to get all these people on the show.
00:11:48.000 That was one of the great things about going.
00:11:51.000 But he showed the video where he waved an ISIS flag at Berkeley and no one minded.
00:11:56.000 Then he waved an Israeli flag and people were screaming at him saying he's a murderer.
00:12:00.000 That's really where we're at now.
00:12:02.000 Israel has got the reputation of South Africa.
00:12:04.000 And South Africa doesn't even have apartheid anymore.
00:12:07.000 South Africa is bad for whites now.
00:12:09.000 But people are incurious.
00:12:11.000 So they go, South Africa will always be apartheid and Israel is apartheid.
00:12:16.000 Never mind that there's Muslims living in Israel and Muslims in the parliament.
00:12:23.000 I hung out with some proud boys from Cuba too.
00:12:26.000 That's the beauty of proud boys.
00:12:27.000 You just, wherever I am, I just go, anyone from the local chapter?
00:12:30.000 Boom, they show up, we talk, fascinating guys.
00:12:33.000 Cubans obviously hate capitalism.
00:12:35.000 He had a weird car.
00:12:37.000 Did I send you that picture, Dave?
00:12:38.000 Yeah, look at his car.
00:12:40.000 I go, wait a minute, Polaris, don't they make ATVs?
00:12:44.000 And he goes, yes, this basically is a very fancy ATV.
00:12:48.000 It's like 25 grand or something.
00:12:52.000 But we hung out.
00:12:54.000 He got out of jail for selling diabetic strips without a license.
00:12:59.000 You know, there's So many people in prison for victimless crimes.
00:13:03.000 The strips he was selling were real diabetic strips, not like they were counterfeit, and he has sued journalists who have said otherwise, but because his license wasn't permitted to sell them online, they followed him for years until he had sold like $6 million worth and then threw him in prison for unlicensed diabetic strip testing.
00:13:22.000 It reminded me of that dude.
00:13:23.000 There's a guy who was selling, I think, lobster tails out of a bag instead of a box.
00:13:28.000 And he did seven years.
00:13:31.000 He said the dude above him in the prison, which was minimum security, is looking at like five to ten years because he was taking investors' money, telling them he was investing in Facebook, but Facebook was no longer available or something.
00:13:44.000 So he was investing in other stuff and making them money.
00:13:47.000 And anytime anyone cash out, they cashed out.
00:13:50.000 So it wasn't a pyramid scheme.
00:13:51.000 The money was generating income, but just not how they thought.
00:13:56.000 So he's looking at prison.
00:13:59.000 Busy bodies, man, I'm telling you, you could go to prison tomorrow.
00:14:02.000 Hillary Clinton guaranteed that the Muhammad video guy would go to jail before she knew who he was.
00:14:08.000 She knew she'd find something, and she did.
00:14:10.000 He violated some parole, used a wrong name, that's something.
00:14:15.000 Make sure you always keep these people, these prisoners, human in your mind, because they are, and you will eventually be one.
00:14:23.000 I'll be one.
00:14:24.000 Katie Hopkins was almost arrested.
00:14:26.000 I mean, Britain is a fascist dictatorship.
00:14:30.000 Red Pill Black, remember we had Blair White on the show and we were talking about her.
00:14:34.000 Again, I end up talking to her for all of Friday night.
00:14:39.000 I went up.
00:14:40.000 Milo is always so busy.
00:14:42.000 He's always in a rush.
00:14:43.000 And so we come upstairs and I go, what's with your teeth?
00:14:48.000 You look like a handsome horse.
00:14:50.000 You look like a horse movie star.
00:14:51.000 This is how friends riff.
00:14:52.000 But Milo is so used to people kissing his ass that I don't think he's comfortable being insulted.
00:14:57.000 I think his husband was there, and I don't think his husband likes it either.
00:15:00.000 But we run upstairs.
00:15:02.000 Come on, darling, come upstairs.
00:15:03.000 You want some champagne?
00:15:04.000 No, I don't drink champagne.
00:15:05.000 I'm a dude.
00:15:07.000 And then his manager opens a mini bar.
00:15:09.000 Do you want something here?
00:15:09.000 And I'm like, Milo, I just want to hang out.
00:15:11.000 Let's go down to the bar.
00:15:12.000 And he goes, okay.
00:15:13.000 And then he puts on a robe and slippers and he goes, I need to work on my speech, darling.
00:15:17.000 And I go, okay, I get that.
00:15:18.000 That's cool.
00:15:19.000 I think you should wing it.
00:15:20.000 You're witty enough to wing it.
00:15:22.000 But fine, work on your speech.
00:15:23.000 But I'm not going to sit here and watch you type.
00:15:26.000 And he goes, yes, yes, yes.
00:15:27.000 Quiet, quiet.
00:15:28.000 All right, well, let's go downstairs.
00:15:30.000 Okay, are you going to put your pants back on?
00:15:32.000 No.
00:15:33.000 So he goes to the, we go to the bar, the hotel bar, and he's got a gown on and slippers.
00:15:38.000 He's an eccentric British man.
00:15:41.000 Uncle Monty from Withnail and I. That's a movie both Milo and I adore.
00:15:46.000 Oh, I adore you.
00:15:49.000 Are you a sponge or a stone?
00:15:51.000 Do you absorb?
00:15:52.000 You've got to watch the movie With Nail and I and Uncle Monty.
00:15:55.000 I could quote it for days.
00:15:57.000 So then I'm sitting down at a table, like I didn't have enough stimuli with Ann Coulter and Mickey Kaus.
00:16:02.000 I'm sitting down with Milo, Candace Owens, Red Pill Black, and Dave Rubin, and Douglas Murray.
00:16:09.000 Do you remember him?
00:16:10.000 He was a guest on Dave's show.
00:16:13.000 He talks a lot about the Islamification of England.
00:16:16.000 And there he is, that's Douglas Murray.
00:16:19.000 And James DeMoore.
00:16:20.000 This is all at one table.
00:16:22.000 I was spoiled rotten.
00:16:24.000 Everywhere I turn, it's someone.
00:16:25.000 And these people, it's not like they turn it on when the camera's on and then they're boring in their real life.
00:16:30.000 They were all Milo, Milo's bodyguards from another gig showed up just to say hi.
00:16:36.000 All fascinating human beings.
00:16:38.000 And this guy, James, had just won the, what's it called?
00:16:42.000 What's it called?
00:16:43.000 The Annie Edson Taylor Award.
00:16:46.000 Annie Edson Taylor is this chick who, back in the, I don't know, 1800s or something, she went over Niagara Falls in a barrel to pay off her debts, which, by the way, she did not enjoy.
00:16:56.000 And she said, lest we never have a soul where one must do such a thing again, or however they talked.
00:17:02.000 Like, she's wearing a corset and a gown when she got into the barrel.
00:17:05.000 Things were better back then.
00:17:08.000 So David Horowitz gives out this award, the Annie Edson Taylor Award.
00:17:13.000 I was green with envy watching all these people get it.
00:17:15.000 I want it.
00:17:17.000 But James DeMoir was the guy at Google who got fired for sending out a memo that clearly stated, look, I love women.
00:17:23.000 They're great in the workforce, but maybe they don't need to be exactly 50% of everything.
00:17:27.000 Is it possible that something that's really concentratey, like data, whatever, programming, is it possible there's going to be more men there and that's fine?
00:17:36.000 That's all he said.
00:17:37.000 But no, fired.
00:17:38.000 Sexist.
00:17:41.000 So I'll get all these people on the show and I talk to them about my speech.
00:17:45.000 I got to get my speech in there.
00:17:47.000 I met Sebastian Gorka too, who is nine feet tall, incredibly imposing figure, very charming.
00:17:54.000 Sometimes, you know, this is going to sound terrible.
00:17:57.000 Sometimes when you meet these people, your idols, like Mark Stein was there too, John Cardillo, John Cardillo, and you meet all these people, you just start to think, some people are just better.
00:18:10.000 Is it possible that there are better people?
00:18:13.000 Is Sebastian Gorka just better than us?
00:18:15.000 Like Jimmy Kimmel, try doing his job for a night.
00:18:20.000 You won't be able to do it.
00:18:21.000 Try get in an argument with Sebastian Gorka about the Middle East, about Turkey, about Islam.
00:18:27.000 Go ahead.
00:18:28.000 Make my day.
00:18:30.000 He's just better.
00:18:31.000 Sorry.
00:18:31.000 Some people are better.
00:18:33.000 But I got all their info.
00:18:35.000 I'll have them all on the show.
00:18:36.000 And I got to say, overall, you know, meeting all these people, James O'Keefe was there, you just get this overall vibe that something exciting is happening.
00:18:47.000 You know, this didn't feel like a fuddy-duddy conference, even though most of the attendees are old rich people.
00:18:53.000 The James O'Keefe Fenan and Joy Villa and even Gorka, but Milo and all these people, James Damore and Dave Rubin, Red Pill Black, you really felt like this is a new movement.
00:19:08.000 And all these people were really brave and charming and they were enjoying their lives and they were enjoying the fight.
00:19:14.000 They enjoyed getting in brawls with people.
00:19:17.000 They enjoyed the attacks.
00:19:18.000 Katie Hopkins has been to death and back and she loves it.
00:19:23.000 She's invigorated and she's happy.
00:19:25.000 That's the other thing.
00:19:26.000 These people weren't beaten down.
00:19:28.000 They were inspired And it was an honor to serve with them.
00:19:33.000 Uhuru.
00:19:37.000 You want to see something ridiculous?
00:19:39.000 A bunch of people who clearly aren't racist sitting in a group and talking about how racist they are.
00:19:44.000 By definition, that means you're not one.
00:19:47.000 Can you imagine a real racist?
00:19:49.000 Ha, I'm racist.
00:19:50.000 I hate blacks.
00:19:52.000 I'm going, sorry to do a southern accent, but I'm going to a church to talk to Jews and black people about how racist I am.
00:20:00.000 This is getting ridiculous.
00:20:03.000 Watch this.
00:20:04.000 I'm not racist.
00:20:09.000 Hi, I'm Gavin McInnes, and I'm not a racist.
00:20:13.000 A racist is someone who judges people based on their race.
00:20:17.000 So they meet someone and they go, sorry, not my cup of tea.
00:20:22.000 But I love the Mets, and I love 70s punk, and I love the same humor as you.
00:20:27.000 And if I worked at your company, by the way, I would generate tons of income for the company.
00:20:31.000 Yeah, but you're a race, and I don't like races, because I'm a racist.
00:20:35.000 Does that guy sound really weird to you?
00:20:38.000 Why is he denying himself a decent employee or a friend based on pigment?
00:20:43.000 Now, you can notice patterns.
00:20:45.000 That's not racist.
00:20:46.000 You can notice that the Irish get a little ornery after some whiskeys.
00:20:50.000 You can notice that Kenyans keep winning the New York City Marathon.
00:20:54.000 But when it comes to individuals, you start with a blank slate.
00:20:58.000 And that's what everyone does.
00:21:00.000 So my contention is racists don't really exist.
00:21:05.000 And when you find someone who's like that, they usually hate Germans and Spaniards and British and Northern Americans and people from Canada.
00:21:13.000 They're nuts, in other words.
00:21:15.000 And say you do find someone that seems to be racist, they're just a thin veneer away from going, yeah, I'm over it.
00:21:21.000 Like they'll probably hate flip-flops more.
00:21:24.000 If there's a black guy with boots on and a white racist with boots on and then a white guy with flip-flops, the racist is going to go, I'll hang out with you and talk about the match in 70s punk.
00:21:35.000 I don't want to be around Captain flip-flops over here.
00:21:38.000 But racism is a big industry, and it's not just part of our economy, it's part of our culture.
00:21:46.000 So instead of being rational and saying, admitting that, look, it's 2017, it's basically like smoking.
00:21:52.000 It's done.
00:21:53.000 Let's stop talking about it all the time.
00:21:55.000 We're all pretty normal now, especially young people.
00:21:58.000 Young people are the most colorblind generation ever.
00:22:02.000 No, we can't do that because there's too much at stake.
00:22:04.000 There's pamphlets been made, there's t-shirts, there's entire identities based on saying something is racist and I don't like racism.
00:22:12.000 So we're going to dilute the equation and take the word down to meaning, I don't know, you notice something.
00:22:20.000 And now we have this pastor who has started a group where people who aren't racist say they're racist so we can get the racist numbers up and justify this stupid culture slash economy of self-deprecation and ethnomasochism.
00:22:36.000 Take it away, racist.
00:22:38.000 Hi, my name is Ron.
00:22:39.000 Hi, Ron.
00:22:40.000 I'm a racist.
00:22:41.000 Having once is a 12-step program.
00:22:46.000 Help all of us.
00:22:47.000 Let's get over our races.
00:22:49.000 Can you just pause it here?
00:22:50.000 You know those are the least racist people in the world.
00:22:54.000 Like that guy.
00:22:55.000 He'd have sex with a black man if it wouldn't offend him.
00:22:58.000 Like these people are hyperbolic examples of non-racists.
00:23:03.000 But wouldn't it be hilarious if he was?
00:23:05.000 Hi, my name's Ron and I'm a racist.
00:23:06.000 White people make me sick to my stomach.
00:23:09.000 I'll just punch them in the face.
00:23:10.000 If I see them on the train, they make me puke.
00:23:12.000 I have a dartboard at home that I just put random pictures of white people on.
00:23:15.000 I whip darts at it and I can't get over it.
00:23:18.000 Now that would be worth watching.
00:23:20.000 But that doesn't exist.
00:23:21.000 That's why it made me giggle.
00:23:23.000 All right, go ahead.
00:23:29.000 It starts with the assumption that we're all of the racist.
00:23:33.000 I grew up in the world.
00:23:33.000 I feel like an irrelevant, but that's no guarantee that there's not going to be racism.
00:23:38.000 About my third meeting, what I realized is that I'm a racist against myself.
00:23:46.000 So, for me, I'm going to be talking.
00:23:50.000 That's from California.
00:23:52.000 And I heard people talking about the business.
00:23:53.000 So hold on a few.
00:23:54.000 Just stop it.
00:23:57.000 So when she walks into her home and she sees herself in the mirror, she goes, look at this bold black bitch.
00:24:03.000 Look what the cat dragged in.
00:24:06.000 She's racist against herself.
00:24:08.000 What the hell are you lunatics talking about?
00:24:13.000 You're not racist.
00:24:14.000 The question here is, why do you want to be?
00:24:16.000 What's that thing?
00:24:17.000 Mesopotamia, there's that thing where you give yourself an illness because you want to be a victim so bad and you make yourself...
00:24:26.000 It's a real mentally induced illness.
00:24:30.000 That's what these people have.
00:24:32.000 They want to be part of this racism campaign so bad that this guy who grew up with black people goes, that's no excuse.
00:24:39.000 I've even heard, I'm married to a non-white, and I've heard people say that doesn't mean anything.
00:24:44.000 You know, Massa loves chocolate, meaning slave owners like to have sex with their slaves.
00:24:49.000 So now my wife is a slave and I'm raping her every day.
00:24:52.000 That's how far they have to go to justify this absurd worldview.
00:24:56.000 Now, Asian drivers, okay, can you give me unequivocal evidence that they're perfect drivers?
00:25:02.000 I'm not saying they are good or bad drivers.
00:25:05.000 I'm saying when you discuss a stereotype, let's not just totally accept that it's not true.
00:25:10.000 It may have some truth to it.
00:25:14.000 I don't know.
00:25:14.000 I'm just throwing it out there.
00:25:16.000 Go ahead.
00:25:17.000 Look at his face, too, when he notices that he has trouble with Asian drivers.
00:25:22.000 Go ahead.
00:25:24.000 And I found myself looking for Asian drivers when something crazy would happen.
00:25:33.000 That's racism.
00:25:35.000 No, it's not.
00:25:36.000 Stop, stop, stop.
00:25:37.000 That is someone being curious if a pattern exists.
00:25:41.000 And again, when you meet an Asian, you don't assume he's a bad driver, but you're allowed to wonder.
00:25:48.000 Remember Clivin Bundy?
00:25:49.000 He dared to wonder if this guy in jail and this woman on a porch with eight kids and on welfare.
00:25:56.000 He wondered if they might have been better off during slavery.
00:25:58.000 He's wrong, by the way.
00:25:59.000 You're never better off as a slave, but he wondered it, and that was the end of Clivin Bundy.
00:26:03.000 No wondering around.
00:26:05.000 Our meeting is an Indian, a couple black people.
00:26:07.000 Yeah, sounds real racist.
00:26:10.000 This is pathetic.
00:26:12.000 This is what I don't get about this whole thing, too, is Why do you want there to be racism?
00:26:15.000 Like, why are you putting yourself under a microscope and saying, I'm racist against myself?
00:26:20.000 Or I noticed some Asian people in a car.
00:26:23.000 I'm a racist and I have to go to a seminar.
00:26:26.000 That's the part I don't get, is the impetus for this.
00:26:28.000 But go ahead.
00:26:31.000 And we're all so racist.
00:26:33.000 Black people, white people, a couple types of Asians, an observant Jew, an Arabic person who's come to this meeting.
00:26:39.000 And I think it has enriched our disciples.
00:26:43.000 Are these people coming to confess or they're doing a seminar?
00:26:46.000 With different backgrounds and experiences.
00:26:48.000 In my whole life, I never had a black teacher.
00:26:51.000 So?
00:26:53.000 Never had a black doctor.
00:26:54.000 Some of us have internalized racism.
00:26:57.000 Wait a minute.
00:26:58.000 You're in trouble now if you haven't had a black doctor.
00:27:00.000 Tax all kinds of relationships.
00:27:02.000 It impacts the way people get paid, where they get to live.
00:27:06.000 This group helps people have conversations about those kinds of things.
00:27:10.000 We so often have.
00:27:12.000 Have you ever heard of a bar?
00:27:14.000 Why is it so hard to have a conversation?
00:27:17.000 Why does the left keep talking about we need a conversation?
00:27:20.000 Let's have a conversation about this.
00:27:22.000 Go to a bar and sit down with your friend.
00:27:24.000 I've had enough of these therapists and people going online and starting chat groups.
00:27:30.000 Just go out and sit down with your friend and say, I've never had a black doctor.
00:27:34.000 Is that weird?
00:27:35.000 Have you ever had a black doctor?
00:27:37.000 This is bizarre.
00:27:38.000 Why are we treating social interaction like it's some sort of illness or some sort of treatment for addiction?
00:27:43.000 Just being a normal person.
00:27:45.000 Go ahead.
00:27:46.000 I'm almost done with this crap.
00:27:48.000 Opportunities to speak with people candidly.
00:27:50.000 You don't?
00:27:53.000 It's just the death of pub culture.
00:27:55.000 It's a lot of easier in meeting people from very different backgrounds and each time feeling how deeply similar and fundamentally related I am.
00:28:06.000 I almost read fundamentally retarded.
00:28:11.000 Oh my God.
00:28:12.000 I've had enough of this.
00:28:13.000 It's called church.
00:28:14.000 It's called going to bars.
00:28:16.000 It's called community.
00:28:18.000 It's called having a family.
00:28:19.000 It's called being involved in your community and knowing the local bartender and knowing your pastor and talking to people outside the church after church.
00:28:27.000 You guys are just synthesizing the wonderful communities we've had for decades upon decades.
00:28:33.000 And now, after destroying it, you're wondering how to bring back all the good.
00:28:37.000 You want the crunchy without the smooth.
00:28:39.000 Well, the crunchy and the smooth were both delicious.
00:28:41.000 Why did you wreck society when you don't have anything half decent to replace it?
00:28:49.000 Instructor arrested for attacking conservative students.
00:28:53.000 A University of Illinois graduate instructor was arrested for assaulting two students during an anti-Trump protest Thursday, stealing the phone of one student and throwing it on the sidewalk.
00:29:03.000 Tariq Khan, very sort of a Sikh sounding name, charged the students in a rage after one of them mocked the 39-year-old by asking, don't you have anything better to do?
00:29:11.000 Don't you have kids?
00:29:13.000 After accusing the students of threatening his children, Khan chased after one of them, stealing his phone and hurling it to the sidewalk, which is, I believe, criminal damage of property.
00:29:24.000 Look at this guy.
00:29:24.000 So this guy, this teacher, has got a long history of working with Antifa.
00:29:32.000 There he is with their little anarchist cat.
00:29:34.000 I used to wear that cat on my shirts when I was a teenager.
00:29:37.000 There he is with some Muslim woman and a blowhorn.
00:29:40.000 He's got the anti-fascist thing.
00:29:42.000 Look, I have no problem with radicals.
00:29:44.000 They should exist.
00:29:45.000 I was one.
00:29:46.000 They're an integral part of society.
00:29:49.000 But now they are a society.
00:29:50.000 They have become mainstream.
00:29:52.000 These are professors at school.
00:29:54.000 And remember I talked about this in the four types of Antifa?
00:29:57.000 I said there's the academics.
00:29:58.000 Well, here are the academics.
00:30:00.000 And they're physically attacking conservative students.
00:30:04.000 They are in Antifa.
00:30:06.000 They're not sympathetic to Antifa.
00:30:08.000 They are it.
00:30:10.000 That's Tariq Khan right there.
00:30:12.000 I didn't hear a threat.
00:30:14.000 Not so tough anymore.
00:30:16.000 You listen to it.
00:30:17.000 What did I say?
00:30:18.000 What did I say there was a threat?
00:30:22.000 He didn't hear a threat.
00:30:22.000 Yeah, you better check yourself, okay?
00:30:24.000 Check yourself.
00:30:25.000 I'll f*** you up if you, if you...
00:30:28.000 So there he is stealing his phone.
00:30:31.000 Call the cops.
00:30:34.000 Again, this is not just two students having a fight near a bar.
00:30:39.000 This is part of the faculty attacking conservative students for being pro-Trump.
00:30:46.000 Do you want to send your kids to this school?
00:30:49.000 Does it sound like a good place for someone to learn?
00:30:52.000 Call the cops.
00:30:52.000 Somebody call the cops.
00:30:53.000 Call the cops.
00:30:54.000 They don't care about the death of Brownleeve.
00:30:56.000 They care about the death of Brownleeve.
00:30:57.000 Now, I'm from the...
00:30:59.000 I'm a child of the 70s, so I prefer it if people just fight and don't call the cops and don't record everything.
00:31:05.000 But this is a college campus, and sometimes you've got to play by the rules if you want something effective to be done.
00:31:12.000 And I learned that from talking to the two students that he attacked.
00:31:16.000 Let's let you talk to them now.
00:31:18.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Joel Valdez listed here as executive board member and campus activism coordinator at TPUSA.
00:31:26.000 That's not toilet paper USA.
00:31:28.000 That's Turning Point USA.
00:31:29.000 And his buddy, Blair Nelson.
00:31:31.000 What's going on?
00:31:32.000 Hi, guys.
00:31:34.000 Blair, are you a member of Turning Point USA or just a buddy of Joel's?
00:31:39.000 I am a member of Turning Point USA, yes.
00:31:42.000 Wonderful.
00:31:42.000 Now, college Republicans, that subject, that thing, would strike boredom in the ears of most people, say, five years ago.
00:31:54.000 But it's become like being in a gang.
00:31:57.000 I mean, on this show, I must have had a dozen college Republicans who have been spat on, punched, screamed at when they walk down the halls.
00:32:07.000 They yell Nazi.
00:32:08.000 If my kids are conservative, I don't think I want them to go to college.
00:32:12.000 It's dangerous.
00:32:12.000 Joel.
00:32:13.000 It's actually been getting worse and worse and worse here at the University of Illinois.
00:32:18.000 So just recently, what happened yesterday.
00:32:22.000 Thursday was this guy Tariq Khan we were at this anti-Trump protest which was hosted by these student socialists yeah we just watched the video okay so what what had happened was because Turning Point USA were all about civil discourse on campus, we wanted to go and hear what they actually had to say.
00:32:43.000 And at one point, Tariq, who was speaking at the statue, he started yelling at us, he was pointing at us, he was getting pretty violent to the point where he was saying, f you, to these 15 protesters, calling us white supremacists.
00:32:57.000 And so I told him back, I was like, don't you have anything better to do?
00:33:00.000 I was like, don't you have kids to take care of?
00:33:04.000 He's a 50-year-old looking guy with two kids at an anti-Trump protest with not that many people there.
00:33:09.000 So I wasn't sure.
00:33:10.000 And that is a very good point, by the way.
00:33:12.000 Like, I have three kids, and I'm constantly thinking and evaluating everything I do, going, I could be at home right now.
00:33:18.000 That's kids stuff, his protests.
00:33:20.000 That's how I told him.
00:33:21.000 I was like, I don't know if that's the best use of your time.
00:33:25.000 And at that point, he got crazy.
00:33:27.000 He thought that I was threatening his kids.
00:33:29.000 And I don't actually believe that he thought I was threatening his kids.
00:33:32.000 He just wanted to come up to fight.
00:33:34.000 Right.
00:33:34.000 And then he could tell the police that I was just defending my children.
00:33:38.000 Exactly.
00:33:39.000 Well, Blair, why did you not punch him in the face?
00:33:43.000 I don't know.
00:33:44.000 That's not the thought that went through my head at the time.
00:33:46.000 I was definitely more worried about getting the recording.
00:33:49.000 I guess I'm just a calm guy.
00:33:51.000 You're just a sweetie.
00:33:53.000 Yes.
00:33:54.000 Well, Joe, you're not a sweetie.
00:33:57.000 You're from the south side of Chicago, where there's something like two murders a day.
00:34:01.000 You've got more murders than New York, and you're, I don't know, a third of the size.
00:34:06.000 Yeah, well, at Turning Point USA, we believe in civil and reasonable discourse.
00:34:10.000 So time and time again, we are seeing that far-left professors, employees, and students don't want to engage in the discourse.
00:34:16.000 But again, what do you think the response would have been if I fought back?
00:34:19.000 The leftists on campus and liberal media would have spun it entirely against me in Turning Point USA.
00:34:24.000 It would have given them another excuse to smear conservatives nationwide, push their left-wing indoctrination in the campuses, on the classrooms, where hardworking taxpayers and donors are putting their money.
00:34:38.000 Yeah, you're right.
00:34:38.000 This isn't the streets.
00:34:41.000 This was just you guys on college, and you have to sort of go by the books, especially when he's a professor.
00:34:46.000 Well, the good news about not fighting him is he's facing felony charges, right, Joel?
00:34:51.000 Yeah, he is.
00:34:52.000 Tree Khan has actually had a long and well-documented history of working with anarchists and communist groups like Antifa, Black Rose, Students for Justice in Palestine, and the Student Socialists.
00:35:04.000 So we're calling for the University of Illinois to launch an investigation into the actions and history of TreeCon.
00:35:10.000 It's amazing, Blair, how mainstream Antifa has become in academia.
00:35:16.000 I mean, I think that these academics, these professors, and we've had them on Tucker Carlson, that guy with the Pez neck, forget his name, Michael something.
00:35:27.000 And Yvette Falarka, you know, all these people are teachers and they're well positioned in education.
00:35:34.000 And I think it's so they can spread their Marxist propaganda.
00:35:37.000 Like, this guy's a radical.
00:35:39.000 And he's teaching it yourself.
00:35:42.000 So it gets to the point where you think, I'm going to radical school.
00:35:49.000 Multiple students who have taken Khan's course and who tell us in secret that he spews radical leftist propaganda in the classroom.
00:36:00.000 And if you go along with what he says, you're more likely to get a good grade.
00:36:03.000 Well, the actual titles of the courses he teaches are radical.
00:36:06.000 It'll say like race and gender in a colonialist America or something like that.
00:36:11.000 And you could just, just by the title, you go, well, I know while this class is going.
00:36:16.000 Exactly.
00:36:17.000 So not only is it getting bad for conservatives to be on campus, but it's also getting bad for the actual colleges because it's bad business.
00:36:24.000 Missouri lost $6 million last year.
00:36:27.000 They had $1,000 less applicants.
00:36:30.000 Their sports programs are almost shut down, lost hundreds of thousands in just sports alone.
00:36:34.000 This is going to hurt your school.
00:36:36.000 Yeah, the University of Illinois actually recently got a $150 million donation, which is the largest in their history.
00:36:44.000 So it would be a major PR disaster for the University of Illinois.
00:36:48.000 So this is exactly why they're staying silent.
00:36:52.000 Wow.
00:36:52.000 Well, it can't last.
00:36:54.000 This can't go on.
00:36:55.000 It has to culminate.
00:36:56.000 It's some sort of peak here.
00:36:58.000 Like you guys are on your campus.
00:37:00.000 A professor starts berating you for supporting Trump.
00:37:05.000 And then when you say, don't you have anything better to do, he what?
00:37:07.000 He grabs your phone and smashes it and starts screaming at you and hitting you?
00:37:12.000 That's insane.
00:37:14.000 It is insane.
00:37:16.000 Well, he doesn't know who he's messing with because you've seen people shot, Joel.
00:37:22.000 You lived in a gang neighborhood.
00:37:25.000 Yes, going to the corner stores, going to school on the bus, fights daily, gunshots every weekend.
00:37:33.000 It has become the new normal in the south side of Chicago.
00:37:36.000 So you're used to abuse.
00:37:39.000 Not abuse towards me, but seeing abuse in the neighborhood, definitely.
00:37:44.000 Well, you know what I find hilarious about you in particular is how the left purports to be about equality and fighting racism.
00:37:51.000 And then as soon as they find out you're conservative, it's you're a spick and you need to go back to where you came.
00:37:57.000 Like you get insults like that, right?
00:37:58.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:38:00.000 We hosted Charlie Kirk at the University of Illinois recently in October.
00:38:04.000 And he started the same group, the socialist students, the International Socialist Organization, whatever they want to call themselves.
00:38:10.000 They came, they were protesting.
00:38:13.000 As soon as I went into the belly of the beast, they told me I was a wetback.
00:38:16.000 I was a token to the all-right.
00:38:18.000 They told me to go back to where I came from.
00:38:20.000 I was like, I thought you guys were all about diversity and inclusivity.
00:38:25.000 I believe it is absolutely hypocritical of these groups to claim that the foundation of their organizations are based on inclusivity.
00:38:32.000 Where's the inclusivity for conservative voices?
00:38:34.000 Inclusivity for those that only you agree with isn't inclusivity at all.
00:38:40.000 No, and you hear this, you hear this the way they talk about Michelle Malk and they say things that I can't repeat on this show or Ann Coulter.
00:38:47.000 This just really deep-seated vital.
00:38:49.000 I remember I was having lunch with Anthony Bourdain because we were working on a show on the same network.
00:38:54.000 And he was talking about Sarah Palin and he said, I'd love to just cut her skin off with a razor blade.
00:38:59.000 And I thought, Like my worst enemies, I don't get into skin removal.
00:39:05.000 I get into maybe a bop on the nose or something.
00:39:09.000 Blair, do you feel safe when you walk down the hallways of your school?
00:39:14.000 No, definitely not.
00:39:16.000 Well, I mean, right now, not a lot of people know who I am in my face.
00:39:21.000 They know my name.
00:39:22.000 That just changed?
00:39:23.000 Yes, it did.
00:39:24.000 Different story about why people know my name.
00:39:28.000 Blair is notorious for posting some very offensive memes that the left would not like.
00:39:36.000 So he's been, there's this part of the University of Illinois called the Bias and Assessment Response Team that looks into offensive memes.
00:39:47.000 Anything offensive to students that would get their feelings hurt, they report them and they have them come to the office.
00:39:53.000 They intimidate them.
00:39:54.000 It's really anything that the left finds offensive, they can be reported and intimidated, or conservatives can be intimidated on campus.
00:40:00.000 Oh, maybe we have a problem with the feed here.
00:40:04.000 I didn't know that we were interviewing two students in Russia.
00:40:06.000 I thought this was two American students.
00:40:09.000 Guys, best of luck over there.
00:40:11.000 The weather must be freezing cold this time of year over there in Vladivostok.
00:40:17.000 You should come to America at some point.
00:40:19.000 It's total freedom here.
00:40:21.000 And on college campus, you just go there and learn.
00:40:23.000 No one attacks you.
00:40:25.000 And you come out way smarter than when you went in.
00:40:27.000 And there's no Marxists anywhere.
00:40:29.000 It's heaven.
00:40:30.000 It sounds amazing.
00:40:32.000 You would love it here.
00:40:33.000 All right, guys, thanks for coming on the show.
00:40:35.000 I like you both more than a friend.
00:40:36.000 Thank you so much.
00:40:37.000 Thank you so much.
00:40:43.000 Hi, everybody.
00:40:44.000 My name is Stephen McCarthy.
00:40:46.000 I would describe myself as an average American in that I don't really know a lot about other countries and also I don't really care.
00:40:56.000 But I figured it's about time I should start learning.
00:40:58.000 So I decided to travel to the most foreign place I can find, New York's Times Square.
00:41:04.000 Let's go check it out.
00:41:06.000 What's your least favorite thing about Ireland?
00:41:10.000 To be honest, I do not like our coffee.
00:41:15.000 You have bad coffee in Ireland.
00:41:17.000 No, it's not really bad.
00:41:18.000 I just don't like it because when you come to America where their coffee tastes and then you go to Ireland and you take two sips and you're drunk, it's, you know...
00:41:28.000 Yeah, me, Pakistan.
00:41:29.000 Pakistan?
00:41:32.000 You don't like Pakistan?
00:41:34.000 Yeah, go.
00:41:35.000 Yeah, go to America.
00:41:36.000 Go to Pakistan.
00:41:37.000 Yeah, America is great.
00:41:39.000 What is your favorite thing about America?
00:41:43.000 America?
00:41:44.000 I don't know.
00:41:46.000 It's just cooler here, right?
00:41:48.000 like an awesome, awesome country, right.
00:42:02.000 Well, you heard it here first.
00:42:03.000 Hey, so I found an Italian immigrant here.
00:42:06.000 We're going to talk to him.
00:42:07.000 Hey, how long have you been in America for?
00:42:11.000 Oh, how long?
00:42:14.000 For 20 years.
00:42:16.000 I live in New York, yeah.
00:42:17.000 Did you come for the plumbing opportunities?
00:42:20.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:42:22.000 There's a lot of opportunity for Luigi here in New York.
00:42:27.000 You mean the French people?
00:42:29.000 I mean, they are not smiling, they are not welcoming.
00:42:33.000 Oh, they're mean.
00:42:34.000 They're mean in France.
00:42:35.000 Not mean, but they are.
00:42:36.000 They're cold, right?
00:42:37.000 They are cold.
00:42:37.000 Okay.
00:42:39.000 Charto.
00:42:40.000 What does that mean?
00:42:41.000 Hello.
00:42:42.000 What is your favorite thing about America?
00:42:45.000 Petriism.
00:42:47.000 That's right.
00:42:48.000 Thank you.
00:42:49.000 So I talked to a lot of people today, and I think the thing that I learned is that Americans tend to be cooler, other countries aren't so good.
00:42:59.000 And learning about other cultures is for other cultures.
00:43:03.000 Back to you, Gavin.