Dave and Gav are back with a brand new episode of Off My Lawn, featuring Gavin Watson and Lindsay Shepard. They discuss The Clash's new album 'This Is England' and why it's one of the most underrated albums of all time. They also talk about Lindsay Shepard and Jordan Peterson and why she's in trouble with the law. And they talk about Jada Franson and her campaign against white supremacy.
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00:00:13.000From New York, it's Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McInnes.
00:00:19.000I hear a gang fly on a human factory farm.
00:03:29.000Friendly reminder that you don't have to be an actual Nazi to benefit from white supremacy.
00:03:34.000You can cling to its structures for protection, selectively advocate for free speech, or try to silence others who criticize your complicity when you gladly receive its support.
00:03:57.000She runs a thing called Britain First, which despite British accent, I don't really know much about Britain First, but I looked them up and they don't seem racist to me.
00:04:06.000In fact, when you go to their website, you see a big thing called Britain First in Racism.
00:04:11.000And they say, no, we're against the Islamification of Britain.
00:04:14.000And we've got plenty of different races that join us in marches.
00:04:19.000Plenty of people who, by the way, have been victims of Islam.
00:04:23.000Look at Sikhs and Hindus and Muslims, for Christ's sakes.
00:04:28.000No one kills more Muslims than Muslims.
00:04:30.000But Jada Franson did a talk in, I think it was Dublin, where she talked about the Islamification of Europe and Britain.
00:07:43.000I'm also going to talk about appearing on the Bill Schultz show, where liberals ruined it, and they ruined it by ruining America, and that affects human beings eventually.
00:07:53.000You'll see what I mean when I get there.
00:07:54.000And then, of course, we will be checking back in with Rick Shapiro, and he'll be discussing Bruce Springsteen as I eat onion rings.
00:08:08.000This Is England was a movie about 80s England in 2006, I believe.
00:08:14.000That was my childhood, the 80s, and going back and forth from Canada to Britain.
00:08:20.000And I was completely obsessed with British punk, mods, skinheads, rude boys, all of that subculture.
00:08:28.000Now, the modern vernacular for all that is they just focus on skinheads, and then a tiny fraction of skinheads called Nazi skinheads, they've just taken over the whole thing, the whole 80s scene.
00:08:40.000And that was a small group that was a problem, and they did, well, by the time I showed up, they had completely split and were constantly attacking us every weekend and kicking our ass because they were damaged children and we were middle class.
00:08:53.000But watching this movie, even watching the trailer, makes me tear up because I sort of had compartmentalized my childhood, my adolescence, and went, all right, well, let's not dwell in the past.
00:09:04.000There's nothing less punk than being an old punk.
00:09:07.000But I have Gavin Watson on the show today, and he, for some reason, and no one did this back then, he had an Olympus camera with him, and he took beautiful shots.
00:09:16.000So he has the largest archive in the world of the 80s punk and skinhead scene.
00:09:22.000But this movie really gives it a good perspective, because they do acknowledge the Nazi problem, and they show a couple guys drifting over to the dark side.
00:09:30.000But they really focus on the good guys, and that's who we were.
00:11:50.000You know, what happened to me the other day, to prepare for this interview, I was watching the trailer for This Is England, and I stunned myself because I started, just not a big, in a big way, but I had a little tear.
00:13:02.000I'm not going to sit up at the pub talking about a fight I had five years ago when I can stand in the field with those beautiful people watching the sun come up.
00:13:26.000Well, Gavin, it was the Teds that put us all off ever being old skinheads because, you know, old Teds were And now I see guys have a skinhead reunion every year down in Brighton.
00:15:33.000Now the Stranglers are playing in the living room and I'm pogoing with the kids and I'm getting them children's books that say, Puck, I'm back in.
00:17:03.000Right, so similarly, if you're a teenager and you're stuck in there, you'll listen to music, you'll make your music, your brother is big on sampling and stuff, you end up with, and then fashion too, you got time to get dressed, you're at home, you can sew a patch on your jacket, on your parka.
00:17:21.000The next thing you know, you're a music expert with an incredible outfit.
00:17:32.000So, you know, on a rainy day, my brother would have great sewing skills just to sew his turn-up on his trousers to win a quarter of an inch.
00:18:17.000It's not much of an effort got into that.
00:18:18.000And it's still going on, what with the grime scene and garage and all those little offshoots of the dance culture that we created again, that was created over here.
00:18:41.000When you look at the history of rock and roll, which I think rock and roll comes from black slaves and beats, and then Irish anger and guitars, and those two combined formed a former country that sped up into rock and roll.
00:18:55.000So it doesn't seem that British per se, but you look at how much, the history of rock and roll with the Beatles and everything, it's just peppered with Brits in this tiny little island.
00:26:30.000And one ladder to get to the 30 or 25-foot ladder up there.
00:26:36.000Now, just walking on it without your hands touching anything, that's scarier than actually coming down because it's the catwalk is just insane.
00:27:35.000I love, it's fun to gloat at the left and watch them get a taste of their own medicine because they're so obsessed with finding any of our mistakes that when they make one, it's great to put it on a giant billboard for all the world to see.
00:27:49.000Literally, and that's not a word that I use anymore because millennials have ruined it, but you're right.
00:27:54.000You literally have to put it on a billboard.
00:28:40.000And I'll talk about this on my podcast, I think, on Friday, about how a lot of my enemies will take segments from that comedy show and try to make it look like it's a PhD dissertation that deserves serious analysis.
00:28:54.000But anyway, he's got all these, I'm going to say spinsters on the show, four chicks and they're New York gals and New York gals.
00:29:03.000You know, New York is an elephant's graveyard for ovaries, ladies, and you come here thinking you're going to find a rich guy and maybe 10% of you do.
00:29:11.000The other 90% get thrown in the trash.
00:29:30.000And he had me on to talk about my infamous Christmas cards.
00:29:33.000And I thought, you know, maybe I have a myopic obsession with the damage of the far left, but the whole show reeked of that.
00:29:41.000First of all, I can't show my cards because I have to black out my wife and my kids' faces because lunatics are trying to kill me and think that they can, if they attack me and my family, it'll somehow be better for their cause.
00:29:54.000I couldn't even talk about how I like to decorate my house with Merry Christmas stuff because that might show people that they're at the right house when they stalk me and want to attack me.
00:30:04.000So that wasn't a reason why liberals had ruined this segment.
00:30:07.000And then the other segment, the other reason it was ruined is because I feel like these, I call them sh ⁇ chests.
00:30:16.000And again, to reiterate why I call them that, I love women.
00:30:19.000But women who have been ripped from tradition and have been denied babies and marriage, they're like a robot who's been frazzled.
00:30:26.000And it's like Iron Man, you took out that glowing orb from the center and you put a piece of poop there.
00:31:12.000But because these cackling hens didn't let me get a word in Edgewise, likely because they were insecure about their own lack of Christmas relevance, I thought I'd just take some time before I show you the segment so I can show you my amazing Christmas cards.
00:31:26.000Now, I explain my Christmas cards on the show with Bill, but basically, my Christmas cards lampoon terrible people.
00:31:35.000And I've got a big letter that I include with the card.
00:32:09.000There's all these residences of people just living there for one cause, whether it's Orthodox Judaism, skiing, or getting your kids into TV.
00:32:18.000They all look the same, these duplexes.
00:32:21.000And we talked about that the whole time.
00:32:22.000We talked about his agent, his cast agent.
00:32:24.000And then the very last sentence was, Sophie is doing fine.
00:35:04.000Oh, and that letter that came with that was all about following these fans.
00:35:07.000And he actually used to be the basis for Concrete Sucks, but he's playing with Napalm Death now because Napalm Death reformed after Godflesh split up.
00:36:16.000We basically, I wanted to talk to you today because you did something starting several years back, which I now annually look forward to.
00:36:23.000And if I don't get one, I will actually email him and tell him to send it to me.
00:36:27.000But can you sort of explain to all of us the McGinnis family tradition of Christmas cards?
00:36:34.000Well, it started, we have these friends whose daughter was born the same time our daughter was born.
00:36:39.000And we would get these Christmas cards that had this big letter that talked about how successful they are and their daughter's piano lessons.
00:36:46.000And one of the lines that really drove me nuts is she said, sometimes I asked my husband to pinch me so I know I'm not dreaming.
00:39:01.000But eventually, after losing his job and having all his friends terrorized and getting stalked everywhere he went, he said, fine, you know what?
00:39:08.000So he goes to Chicago, starts a new life, and he's okay for a while.
00:39:12.000But thanks to social media, word gets out that this evil person, this person who, by the way, used to be left-wing, you see, like when Cassandra Fairbanks went from a Bernie Bro to a Trump person, they got really mad.
00:39:24.000They hate defectors more than anything, communists.
00:39:27.000So they would attack Cassandra's daughter and not literally, but just as bad, make threats to the daughter.
00:39:32.000So on, what was it, April 11th, he's at a pool hall called Delilah's, and word gets out that he's there.
00:39:38.000Immediately they go get their friends and they beat him with pool cues.
00:39:41.000They cut a big gash in the back of his head.
00:41:09.000And I'm telling you, not only is this guy innocent, but this same kind of Frankenstein mob hunt, witch hunt, loony mentality could lead to you.