Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - Get Off My Lawn #40 | Dirty Rock

00:00:13.000 From New York, it's Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McInnes.

00:00:19.000 I hear a gang fly on a human factory farm. 0.71

00:00:24.000 Are they having hours?

00:00:26.000 Pulling somebody on.

00:00:29.000 All the cats want to move.

00:00:32.000 Somebody grab power. 0.87

00:00:35.000 Her voice full so-called advanced weapon in a ball. 1.00

00:00:42.000 This is a night.

00:00:44.000 This night's a set of steel.

00:00:47.000 This is a night.

00:00:50.000 This is how we feel.

00:00:53.000 I'm going to go.

00:00:57.000 Bloody great song now.

00:00:59.000 That was from The Clash, Cut the Crap.

00:01:01.000 And that album did not do well.

00:01:03.000 I'm not sure why.

00:01:05.000 It could be because Joe Strummer, the vocalist, allowed the manager, Bernie Rhodes, to pollute his mind and kick out Mick Jones.

00:01:14.000 And then Mick went and got involved in electronics and did big audio dynamite.

00:01:18.000 And they made this album sign kind of like big audio dynamite.

00:01:21.000 Strange time, but it's a very underrated record.

00:01:26.000 And This is England is a very underrated song.

00:01:29.000 Now, the reason I chose that is because we have Gavin Watson on the show.

00:01:33.000 He was a geezer back in the 80s and late 70s who had a camera about during all the skins and punks and mods and rockers.

00:01:40.000 He was there for all that.

00:01:41.000 And he's got probably the most thorough archive of late 70s youth subculture in Britain that there is in the world.

00:01:49.000 So we've got him on.

00:01:50.000 I think I'm going to start doing a regular thing with him called Photos with Gav, because we're both named Gav.

00:01:56.000 We've got this dirty rock, Matt Lauer.

00:01:58.000 Don't care.

00:01:59.000 I feel safe.

00:02:00.000 That's one of the good things about liking older birds and not being a disgusting pervert.

00:02:05.000 It's a very relaxing time.

00:02:07.000 But as far as the other ones go, I think that I'm just going to choose the next guy randomly.

00:02:13.000 Dave, switch it up a bit.

00:02:14.000 Go to that one once in a while.

00:02:17.000 There you go.

00:02:18.000 You should be fascinating, making it interesting, for Christ's sake.

00:02:22.000 You don't have an artistic brain.

00:02:24.000 I think I'm just going to choose someone at random next time.

00:02:27.000 Like, Art Garfunkel.

00:02:28.000 I hereby predict, if he is alive, that Art Garfunkel is about to get in all sorts of trouble.

00:02:34.000 I'm basing that on zero evidence.

00:02:36.000 I'm just throwing a dart out into celebrity land and we'll see if that is.

00:02:41.000 Now, speaking of birds in peril, Lindsay Shepard is still getting attacked.

00:02:46.000 She's still under siege.

00:02:48.000 And remember, this is just a teacher's assistant who dared to show a Jordan Peterson video.

00:02:55.000 And Jordan Peterson is a geezer who said, no, I'm not asking you your bloody pronouns.

00:03:00.000 That's ridiculous.

00:03:02.000 I still have This is England in my head.

00:03:04.000 Remember that line?

00:03:05.000 I got my motorcycle jacket, but I'm walking all the time.

00:03:10.000 Anyway, she's, listen, there's this chick, Anjam Chowdhury, who's been attacking her on Twitter. 0.99

00:03:17.000 I love this.

00:03:19.000 Go to the Chowdhury tweet.

00:03:23.000 I've just got her full page on.

00:03:24.000 Yeah, go to Anjam Chowdhury.

00:03:26.000 This is classic academia speak.

00:03:29.000 Friendly reminder that you don't have to be an actual Nazi to benefit from white supremacy.

00:03:34.000 You can cling to its structures for protection, selectively advocate for free speech, or try to silence others who criticize your complicity when you gladly receive its support.

00:03:47.000 She's not mad at being criticized.

00:03:49.000 She's mad at being bloody interrogated. 0.83

00:03:51.000 And if you want to know where that leads to, check out Jada Franson. 0.88

00:03:55.000 Now, she's over in Britain.

00:03:57.000 She runs a thing called Britain First, which despite British accent, I don't really know much about Britain First, but I looked them up and they don't seem racist to me.

00:04:06.000 In fact, when you go to their website, you see a big thing called Britain First in Racism.

00:04:11.000 And they say, no, we're against the Islamification of Britain.

00:04:14.000 And we've got plenty of different races that join us in marches.

00:04:19.000 Plenty of people who, by the way, have been victims of Islam.

00:04:23.000 Look at Sikhs and Hindus and Muslims, for Christ's sakes.

00:04:28.000 No one kills more Muslims than Muslims.

00:04:30.000 But Jada Franson did a talk in, I think it was Dublin, where she talked about the Islamification of Europe and Britain.

00:04:40.000 And she got arrested.

00:04:41.000 You get arrested for that.

00:04:43.000 Lindsay Shepard today, Jada Franson tomorrow.

00:04:46.000 Well, Gavin, that's ridiculous.

00:04:49.000 She's over in crazy town. 0.99

00:04:50.000 Oh, really?

00:04:51.000 Then if that's such a nutty world, then why is it when Trump retweets her, which he did yesterday, she put up these tweets.

00:04:59.000 go to the Daily Mail thing, Dave.

00:05:01.000 She put up these tweets of, uh, uh, She put up these tweets.

00:05:09.000 I said Daily Mail.

00:05:10.000 So one would think, maybe I'll go to the link that says Daily Mail on it.

00:05:16.000 She put up these tweets that said that it just was examples of the problems with Islam in Western Europe, right?

00:05:25.000 And the attacks at him are, how dare you retweet fascists?

00:05:32.000 Now, these are the tweets.

00:05:33.000 That Daily Mail thing has the tweets.

00:05:35.000 So go down there.

00:05:36.000 There's Trump.

00:05:37.000 So this is allegedly fake.

00:05:39.000 This isn't a Muslim refugee, a migrant beating up a Dutch boy.

00:05:44.000 It's a Dutch national.

00:05:45.000 No, it is not.

00:05:46.000 It's a Dutch immigrant.

00:05:47.000 And the Dutch authorities are exaggerating his citizenry.

00:05:51.000 He's an immigrant.

00:05:52.000 He's a Muslim.

00:05:53.000 He hangs out with Muslims.

00:05:54.000 That was a Muslim beating up a Dutch boy. 0.66

00:05:57.000 Next is a picture of a radical Muslim.

00:06:01.000 I think he's linked to ISIS or Al-Qaeda or something.

00:06:03.000 This guy is not someone who's living in London and has a bad attitude.

00:06:07.000 This guy is part of the fighting forces of radical Islam.

00:06:12.000 He's smashing a Virgin Mary in this one, right?

00:06:15.000 They say, okay, that one's real.

00:06:16.000 No one is mad, by the way, about the actual tweets.

00:06:19.000 They're mad that Trump retweeted this woman who has been accused of racism, even though she's not.

00:06:26.000 How is that?

00:06:26.000 There's three people involved in this.

00:06:28.000 Trump for retweeting it, her for tweeting it, and then the actual tweets.

00:06:32.000 And the actual tweets are what you should be outraged against.

00:06:35.000 Look at the last one there: Islamist mob pushes teenage boy off roof and beats him to death.

00:06:42.000 And you know what's actually amazing about all this?

00:06:44.000 And by the way, of course, I'm trying to get Jada Francis on the show.

00:06:46.000 Duh.

00:06:48.000 What's amazing about all this is it's giving her tweets publicity.

00:06:51.000 So people are seeing radical Islam.

00:06:53.000 And I just love the British, sorry, the leftist brain, where they see something and they go, that's Muslim doing that? 0.96

00:07:00.000 That's too intense.

00:07:02.000 Didn't happen.

00:07:02.000 It's like the 9-11 Truthers.

00:07:04.000 What?

00:07:04.000 Planes going in a building?

00:07:06.000 No, that was George Bush.

00:07:08.000 That couldn't happen.

00:07:10.000 Get out of my head, horrible thing.

00:07:15.000 So today on the show, we have Sable, Proud Boys, who put up a giant banner of Al Franken.

00:07:22.000 They put it on a billboard that's 20 feet high.

00:07:26.000 The billboard itself.

00:07:27.000 The billboard, the actual, to get there is, I don't know, another 50 feet.

00:07:31.000 I'm not good at feet heights.

00:07:33.000 We also have Gavin Watson, as I introduced in the show, talking about 80s subculture and what it was like in the Thatcher days in England.

00:07:41.000 That's my cup of tea.

00:07:42.000 It might not be yours.

00:07:43.000 I'm also going to talk about appearing on the Bill Schultz show, where liberals ruined it, and they ruined it by ruining America, and that affects human beings eventually.

00:07:53.000 You'll see what I mean when I get there.

00:07:54.000 And then, of course, we will be checking back in with Rick Shapiro, and he'll be discussing Bruce Springsteen as I eat onion rings.

00:08:08.000 This Is England was a movie about 80s England in 2006, I believe.

00:08:14.000 That was my childhood, the 80s, and going back and forth from Canada to Britain.

00:08:20.000 And I was completely obsessed with British punk, mods, skinheads, rude boys, all of that subculture.

00:08:28.000 Now, the modern vernacular for all that is they just focus on skinheads, and then a tiny fraction of skinheads called Nazi skinheads, they've just taken over the whole thing, the whole 80s scene.

00:08:40.000 And that was a small group that was a problem, and they did, well, by the time I showed up, they had completely split and were constantly attacking us every weekend and kicking our ass because they were damaged children and we were middle class.

00:08:53.000 But watching this movie, even watching the trailer, makes me tear up because I sort of had compartmentalized my childhood, my adolescence, and went, all right, well, let's not dwell in the past.

00:09:04.000 There's nothing less punk than being an old punk.

00:09:07.000 But I have Gavin Watson on the show today, and he, for some reason, and no one did this back then, he had an Olympus camera with him, and he took beautiful shots.

00:09:16.000 So he has the largest archive in the world of the 80s punk and skinhead scene.

00:09:22.000 But this movie really gives it a good perspective, because they do acknowledge the Nazi problem, and they show a couple guys drifting over to the dark side.

00:09:30.000 But they really focus on the good guys, and that's who we were.

00:09:35.000 Check it out.

00:09:36.000 Talking to me.

00:09:37.000 Woodstock's that way, pal.

00:09:38.000 I know that way.

00:09:47.000 I don't like it either more.

00:09:49.000 I liked it better.

00:09:54.000 I'm Woody, mate.

00:09:55.000 Nice to meet you.

00:09:56.000 There's milk in my main man.

00:09:57.000 Pookey and this flat idiot's gadget.

00:10:01.000 By the way, this was another.

00:10:02.000 I'm tearing up.

00:10:03.000 I swear to God, my eyes.

00:10:06.000 I'm crying.

00:10:07.000 I'm officially crying on the show.

00:10:09.000 I'm Glenn Beck now.

00:10:10.000 I'm Jimmy Kimmel.

00:10:11.000 I'm crying.

00:10:14.000 Just freakin'do it.

00:10:16.000 Oh! 0.60

00:10:17.000 Look at that!

00:10:18.000 Transformation!

00:10:20.000 Transformation!

00:10:21.000 *music*

00:10:25.000 That's my childhood in a nutshell right there.

00:10:29.000 And this seems weird to me now, but there'd always be, and I'll talk to Gavin Watson about this.

00:10:36.000 There's always kids around.

00:10:38.000 You didn't get a babysitter.

00:10:39.000 You didn't get daycare.

00:10:40.000 Your kids weren't at home watching TV.

00:10:42.000 We didn't really have a TV.

00:10:43.000 It was black and white.

00:10:44.000 My parents were cheap, by the way.

00:10:45.000 So everything you hear about my youth is 10 years before it should have been.

00:10:49.000 We had a 1970s TV in the 80s.

00:10:51.000 But yeah, you just, there'd be someone with Down syndrome.

00:10:55.000 There'd be one kid who's seven.

00:10:57.000 He was just mates with us.

00:10:59.000 Everyone was sort of unified in this war on boredom.

00:11:03.000 *Music* I think you're lovely.

00:11:08.000 Will you be my girlfriend?

00:11:10.000 *Laughter*

00:11:11.000 That's been the best day of my life.

00:11:13.000 I just wanted to thank you because he said he's been being bullied at school and he'd help to now.

00:11:17.000 But the hair is not good.

00:11:20.000 I've got someone I want you.

00:11:22.000 Okay, so then it gets bad.

00:11:24.000 And we watch the bad man.

00:11:26.000 But let's introduce a new show here on Get Off My Lawn. 0.99

00:11:30.000 And it's called Pictures with Gavin.

00:11:37.000 All right, guys, Gavin, is you there?

00:11:40.000 I'm there, Gavin.

00:11:41.000 Are you?

00:11:42.000 Now, I'm getting the distinct impression that you're mucking about.

00:11:45.000 Are you just mucking about?

00:11:47.000 Yeah, I'm having a laugh.

00:11:50.000 You know, what happened to me the other day, to prepare for this interview, I was watching the trailer for This Is England, and I stunned myself because I started, just not a big, in a big way, but I had a little tear.

00:12:03.000 I started to cry.

00:12:05.000 And I realized that I had put that time of my life in amber and frozen it to sort of preserve it and never touched it again.

00:12:14.000 Because there's something about punk where you would say, this is, you don't want to be an old punk.

00:12:20.000 So immediately, for me, it was 1984.

00:12:23.000 I went, oh, I'm done.

00:12:24.000 And then, oh, no, sorry, it was much later than that.

00:12:26.000 Sorry, not more like 1992.

00:12:28.000 But I said, I'm done.

00:12:29.000 And then it was rave and indie rock and even rap.

00:12:33.000 And don't ever open that treasure chest.

00:12:38.000 I thought I was done.

00:12:39.000 When Rave came along, 23 years of age, my daughter had just been born.

00:12:43.000 I was done.

00:12:44.000 I'm just totally done.

00:12:45.000 Those photographs were my mundane life.

00:12:48.000 I had not even an inkling that no one would ever find them interesting at all because it was mundane what was around me.

00:12:57.000 And Rafe came along, done those E's.

00:12:59.000 I was like, Yeah, mate, I'm having some of this.

00:13:02.000 I'm having some.

00:13:02.000 I'm not going to sit up at the pub talking about a fight I had five years ago when I can stand in the field with those beautiful people watching the sun come up.

00:13:10.000 Exactly.

00:13:10.000 2028 come along.

00:13:12.000 That was unique.

00:13:15.000 That was unique to punks and skinheads.

00:13:17.000 They said, I'm not going to drag that on.

00:13:19.000 Look at Rockabillies, the Teds.

00:13:21.000 They got the Pompadour.

00:13:22.000 They're still janitors.

00:13:23.000 They're still like Elvis.

00:13:25.000 never stopped.

00:13:26.000 Well, Gavin, it was the Teds that put us all off ever being old skinheads because, you know, old Teds were And now I see guys have a skinhead reunion every year down in Brighton.

00:13:42.000 And it's just, they are the Teds.

00:13:44.000 They don't even look like skinheads.

00:13:46.000 They look like your granddad because they've got check shirts on and braces and beer guts and trousers up to here.

00:13:53.000 So they don't look like skinny heads.

00:13:55.000 They're just like fat granddads.

00:13:57.000 Well, that's the beauty of punk is when you get a bald spot, you can't have your mohawk anymore because there's a space in the back.

00:14:04.000 So it has to stop in the middle.

00:14:06.000 Okay, I've all went to the...

00:14:14.000 It was like a fancy dress party in a hospice.

00:14:19.000 No, literally, because the skinners and the punks, they were all ugly in the first place. 1.00

00:14:24.000 All the ugly people graviated towards being punks and skins. 1.00

00:14:28.000 So when they're nearly 60, they're all in wheelchairs. 0.99

00:14:31.000 Oh, mate, it was fucking grim.

00:14:33.000 Well, I was just in London.

00:14:35.000 I was just in London recently, and I was on Kings Road, and I saw punks there from the 70s.

00:14:43.000 Like, they looked like my dad with the leather jacket with GBH and discharge all over Chaos UK.

00:14:51.000 And they were panning for change.

00:14:53.000 Yeah.

00:14:54.000 They had like this face.

00:14:56.000 Wrinkled up, alcoholic faces.

00:14:58.000 Yeah.

00:15:00.000 It's like, yeah, it's like a party.

00:15:02.000 It was like a dress-up party hospice.

00:15:04.000 It was grim.

00:15:05.000 Well, yeah, Skins and Punks is a youth culture.

00:15:09.000 And it feels weird even now, but you know, the book came out, so I've become a bit of a spokesperson for that whole time.

00:15:15.000 So I was like you, mate.

00:15:17.000 It was quite painful early on.

00:15:20.000 Now I've got enough, I'm removed enough emotionally from that whole time to be able to sort of be behind the work.

00:15:28.000 Otherwise, no one else is going to be here, are they?

00:15:31.000 Well, I'm standing up to the plate.

00:15:33.000 Now the Stranglers are playing in the living room and I'm pogoing with the kids and I'm getting them children's books that say, Puck, I'm back in.

00:15:40.000 I'm all in.

00:15:41.000 After 30 years away, I'm ready to rock again.

00:15:44.000 But, you know, going through your book, I was reading Skins the other day and we'll go through some pictures.

00:15:49.000 But I'm thinking about the Scooter Boys, the Boot Boys, the Chelsea's, the Rude Boys, and the Mods and all these different subcultures.

00:15:58.000 And you think, what other place than England is like that?

00:16:03.000 No one has thousands of subcultures.

00:16:08.000 I think about it all the time because I do talks on this stuff and I'm trying to find that answer.

00:16:16.000 Well, how about this for a theory?

00:16:19.000 Well, I mean, I think the war's got a lot to do with it.

00:16:21.000 Falklands?

00:16:22.000 Only a tiny percentage, the Second World War.

00:16:28.000 But I'd like to hear your theory.

00:16:30.000 Yeah, rain.

00:16:32.000 So it's raining out.

00:16:48.000 And it's like someone's under house arrest, and they had extra hours to sort of work on little doilies on the chair.

00:16:56.000 And would you like your cuppa there?

00:16:58.000 Here's a TV tray.

00:17:02.000 The whole life possessions.

00:17:03.000 Right, so similarly, if you're a teenager and you're stuck in there, you'll listen to music, you'll make your music, your brother is big on sampling and stuff, you end up with, and then fashion too, you got time to get dressed, you're at home, you can sew a patch on your jacket, on your parka.

00:17:21.000 The next thing you know, you're a music expert with an incredible outfit.

00:17:26.000 Yeah, you have got a brilliant point.

00:17:29.000 Thank you.

00:17:30.000 That's definitely a big part of it.

00:17:32.000 So, you know, on a rainy day, my brother would have great sewing skills just to sew his turn-up on his trousers to win a quarter of an inch.

00:17:41.000 So he'd be sitting there sewing.

00:17:42.000 He learned how to knit.

00:17:44.000 Yeah, there's massive, yeah, boredom.

00:17:48.000 Boredom and bad weather.

00:17:49.000 I remember coming, I was Canadian, but we would go to Scotland every summer.

00:17:54.000 And I remember getting into punk and coming back and then seeing American punks.

00:17:58.000 And they just have on a champion sweatshirt and jeans and some sneakers.

00:18:02.000 And I go, didn't you spend any time on your outfit?

00:18:05.000 You can't just shave your head.

00:18:06.000 You got to get manic panic.

00:18:08.000 It takes like two hours to get ready.

00:18:11.000 Yeah, it was a check shirt and crappy jeans and maybe a bit of blue in your hair.

00:18:15.000 It's like, all right.

00:18:17.000 It's not much of an effort got into that.

00:18:18.000 And it's still going on, what with the grime scene and garage and all those little offshoots of the dance culture that we created again, that was created over here.

00:18:28.000 Yeah.

00:18:29.000 I find all that cultural stuff absolutely fascinating.

00:18:32.000 This tiny little rock that we live on has just produced so much culture.

00:18:38.000 I'm proud of that.

00:18:39.000 Yeah, it really is bizarre.

00:18:41.000 When you look at the history of rock and roll, which I think rock and roll comes from black slaves and beats, and then Irish anger and guitars, and those two combined formed a former country that sped up into rock and roll.

00:18:55.000 So it doesn't seem that British per se, but you look at how much, the history of rock and roll with the Beatles and everything, it's just peppered with Brits in this tiny little island.

00:19:04.000 Well, Hendrix, he was in America.

00:19:07.000 He came here, Hendrix.

00:19:09.000 Bob Marley come.

00:19:10.000 So there's something about this tiny little rock that's like a mixing pot culturally.

00:19:15.000 You end up coming out over here and then producing jungle that goes all out over the world.

00:19:20.000 And it just keeps, it's like a machine.

00:19:23.000 It really is, yeah.

00:19:25.000 You know, and it's still going on now.

00:19:26.000 So if you've got, if you want to be a good DJ, photographer, musician in England, you've got every town's full of thousands of them.

00:19:34.000 It's not like Denmark, well, there'll be one good DJ that can live it large.

00:19:40.000 You've got to climb to the top of a pyramid, mate, you know, to get to the top.

00:19:45.000 And that's what makes us so good because this country doesn't really like its culture on a political scale.

00:19:51.000 So you're clawing your way to the top, mate.

00:19:53.000 So you end up becoming really good at what you do.

00:19:56.000 Well, you've got a billion fucking talented barters behind you.

00:20:01.000 Right, right.

00:20:02.000 All right, let's look at some photos, shall we?

00:20:04.000 Yes.

00:20:05.000 This is the first one.

00:20:06.000 Dave, can you make sure he can see it?

00:20:08.000 Now, is that your bird?

00:20:10.000 That's Keely. 0.98

00:20:11.000 And that's me when I was 17.

00:20:14.000 That's not still your bird?

00:20:16.000 No, no.

00:20:19.000 No.

00:20:20.000 We've gone through a few since then.

00:20:22.000 She's a looker, mate.

00:20:24.000 That's exactly my type.

00:20:26.000 Oh, she was really bubbly, really fun, really good girl, Keely, but she got married really quickly.

00:20:34.000 Yeah, and just went off into that marriage world.

00:20:38.000 That world.

00:20:39.000 18, I think it was.

00:20:40.000 She got married to a guy a lot older than her.

00:20:42.000 Now, documentary photography is hot now, and Ryan McGinley and Terry Richardson, and I'm forgetting some chick's name. 0.82

00:20:51.000 Isn't Terry getting some stick, though, at the moment?

00:20:54.000 I'll keep reading.

00:20:54.000 Tons.

00:20:55.000 No, what happened with Terry was some 18-year-old from Britain tweeted H ⁇ M and said, are you working with the rape apologist?

00:21:06.000 And they said no, and killed a quarter of a million dollar campaign.

00:21:11.000 And then the next thing you know, he just becomes known as this pariah.

00:21:14.000 Where I was with him during those photos, women were hurling themselves at him. 0.51

00:21:18.000 It's bizarre.

00:21:21.000 But to get back to documentary photography, this is like 1980 or something, right?

00:21:26.000 This must have...

00:21:26.000 1978.

00:21:42.000 But that's unusual.

00:21:44.000 That must have been very unusual.

00:21:45.000 That's why these pictures are so coveted because that's so rare that someone would be running on the camera back then.

00:21:51.000 It's weird, and it I don't like to think about it too much.

00:21:54.000 I even look at the fire glass myself and think, I took that at 15.

00:21:57.000 That's just not right.

00:21:59.000 So yeah, they've been a double-edged sword, really, because I sort of unconsciously created this epic historical culture archive.

00:22:08.000 What feels like by accident?

00:22:10.000 Perfect.

00:22:12.000 How is that bad?

00:22:12.000 That sounds like the best thing I've ever heard.

00:22:14.000 I want to get a tattoo that says that.

00:22:17.000 Gavin, thanks very much for coming on the show.

00:22:20.000 Absolute pleasure as per usual.

00:22:22.000 Gabby Nicholson, I I've had more belly laughs than I've had in a long time, brother.

00:22:31.000 And I'll see you soon.

00:22:33.000 Come out to New York and see you.

00:22:34.000 Sign some pictures for you.

00:22:36.000 Cheers.

00:22:37.000 Cheers.

00:22:43.000 Proud boys always shine.

00:22:48.000 Proud boys.

00:22:49.000 Boom, boo-doo, boom, boom, boo-doo. 1.00

00:22:50.000 Always change their mind.

00:22:54.000 Our proud boys, our boys, got up to some shenanigans last night.

00:23:00.000 They put up a gigantic groping Al Franken on a billboard in LA.

00:23:07.000 Look at this thing.

00:23:12.000 I am more than impressed with this, not just because it's hilarious, but because of the kind of gonads you would need to get up there. 0.63

00:23:20.000 Look at this picture.

00:23:21.000 Here they are loading it up.

00:23:23.000 So they've got it on some sort of cardstock there, and they get up on that ladder.

00:23:29.000 How high are they?

00:23:30.000 Oh my lord.

00:23:32.000 I think that is considered, that's where God lives.

00:23:35.000 That's why God smashed the Tower of Babel because he thought they were getting too close to him. 0.87

00:23:40.000 But here at the top of the Tower of Babel in Babylon, we pull up this Alfranken and glue it to a giant banner as everyone freaks out.

00:23:50.000 Let's talk to the guys who did it.

00:23:52.000 Mr. X, are you there, sir?

00:23:54.000 I am here.

00:23:55.000 Uhuru.

00:23:56.000 Uhuru.

00:23:57.000 Black Power. 0.53

00:23:58.000 Black Power. 0.53

00:23:59.000 It appears that can you, where are you right now?

00:24:04.000 I'm in Los Angeles, California, right off the 405 Freeway in West LA.

00:24:09.000 But you're also at the billboard where you put up a giant Al Franken groping thing.

00:24:16.000 Yeah, well, I mean, we may or may have.

00:24:19.000 The word is on the streets that we did, but let's see.

00:24:22.000 You can see it there.

00:24:24.000 But I mean, how could anyone do that?

00:24:25.000 That must be Photoshop.

00:24:27.000 It must be.

00:24:27.000 There's no way that's real.

00:24:29.000 That's real.

00:24:30.000 Well, you know what it is?

00:24:31.000 Maybe Russian bots are doing the Photoshopping in real time because of Trump.

00:24:36.000 Why would a...

00:24:40.000 Why would the sign company be there if it's Photoshopped?

00:24:44.000 What?

00:24:44.000 Static.

00:24:45.000 What?

00:24:45.000 I can't hear you.

00:24:48.000 The sign company is there.

00:24:51.000 No, I don't see a sign company.

00:24:52.000 That's for something else.

00:24:53.000 And are the media there yet?

00:24:54.000 Are people taking pictures?

00:24:56.000 Yeah, right there.

00:24:57.000 Look at that.

00:24:58.000 There's, you know, this is from the.

00:25:02.000 Dude, go talk to them.

00:25:05.000 Let's hear what they have to say.

00:25:06.000 I don't know.

00:25:07.000 What do you think of this sign, bud?

00:25:09.000 What do you think of this?

00:25:12.000 You do?

00:25:13.000 But it's mean because it's, you know, Alfred, he's a good guy.

00:25:17.000 He makes mistakes, right?

00:25:18.000 He's not like those racist Republicans.

00:25:20.000 They're always raping everyone.

00:25:22.000 He's a nice lib.

00:25:23.000 What do you think?

00:25:26.000 We can't hear him.

00:25:28.000 Oh, okay.

00:25:29.000 So, Mr. X, your balls must be the size of watermelons to get up there.

00:25:37.000 Well, my butthole is actually really small now because it was so puckered up.

00:25:44.000 Yeah, it was pretty crazy.

00:25:49.000 Let me see.

00:25:50.000 Let me switch you back around.

00:25:52.000 I'm looking at the pictures here that were put on Twitter.

00:25:57.000 And one of them has you lifting up this, what was it on plywood?

00:26:02.000 What's it stuck onto?

00:26:06.000 It's on a special unique composite we use called cardboard.

00:26:14.000 That's so awesome, man.

00:26:17.000 So scary, though.

00:26:18.000 Oh, my God.

00:26:20.000 Yeah, it was, here, so here, I'll give you some perspective.

00:26:23.000 So I'll flip it around.

00:26:25.000 So we had to put two ladders to get up, right?

00:26:29.000 Right.

00:26:30.000 And one ladder to get to the 30 or 25-foot ladder up there.

00:26:36.000 Now, just walking on it without your hands touching anything, that's scarier than actually coming down because it's the catwalk is just insane.

00:26:45.000 You know what I mean?

00:26:46.000 Like it's just there's nothing there.

00:26:49.000 It's just thin.

00:26:50.000 We should get illegal aliens to do those jobs. 1.00

00:26:53.000 That's a job Americans don't want to do. 0.96

00:26:56.000 Why are you so racist, Gavin?

00:26:59.000 That's amazing, man.

00:27:00.000 So you may or may not have put that up at what time last night?

00:27:03.000 You got to do that in the middle of the night.

00:27:05.000 I don't know.

00:27:06.000 Here's a guy with me.

00:27:07.000 I don't know if you know who he is.

00:27:08.000 He looks familiar.

00:27:09.000 I'm kind of short.

00:27:10.000 Hey, I owe your boy a new pair of underwear.

00:27:15.000 Sabo.

00:27:16.000 Sabo is on the line.

00:27:19.000 That is fantastic, man.

00:27:24.000 I don't know what kind of hooligan would do something like this.

00:27:26.000 I don't know.

00:27:27.000 Maybe a short, old one and a really fucking looking one.

00:27:31.000 A racist one.

00:27:32.000 A racist one.

00:27:33.000 This is amazing, guys.

00:27:34.000 Wow.

00:27:35.000 I love, it's fun to gloat at the left and watch them get a taste of their own medicine because they're so obsessed with finding any of our mistakes that when they make one, it's great to put it on a giant billboard for all the world to see.

00:27:49.000 Literally, and that's not a word that I use anymore because millennials have ruined it, but you're right. 1.00

00:27:54.000 You literally have to put it on a billboard.

00:27:57.000 All right, man.

00:27:58.000 Well, thanks for checking in with us.

00:28:00.000 I am very proud of your boy.

00:28:03.000 I am very proud of you and all of your boys and non-gender specific people.

00:28:09.000 Look at my laptop.

00:28:11.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:28:13.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:28:14.000 Look at you, mocking pro-abortion people.

00:28:17.000 Yes, I'm sure.

00:28:17.000 I'm sure I feel about that.

00:28:19.000 Well, take care, bud.

00:28:20.000 See you, buddy.

00:28:21.000 Uhuru.

00:28:21.000 Okay.

00:28:22.000 Uhuru.

00:28:27.000 I just did Bill Schultz's show.

00:28:29.000 Bill is filling my shoes.

00:28:31.000 He took my slot over at Compound Media, Anthony Cumia's network, Shock Jock Radio.

00:28:37.000 Very ribald content over there.

00:28:40.000 And I'll talk about this on my podcast, I think, on Friday, about how a lot of my enemies will take segments from that comedy show and try to make it look like it's a PhD dissertation that deserves serious analysis.

00:28:54.000 But anyway, he's got all these, I'm going to say spinsters on the show, four chicks and they're New York gals and New York gals. 1.00

00:29:03.000 You know, New York is an elephant's graveyard for ovaries, ladies, and you come here thinking you're going to find a rich guy and maybe 10% of you do. 1.00

00:29:11.000 The other 90% get thrown in the trash.

00:29:14.000 Sorry.

00:29:15.000 And I find it sad.

00:29:16.000 I find it sad when they talk about their cats and their dogs.

00:29:18.000 Bill doesn't because they're his friends.

00:29:20.000 They're his only chance at someone to party with.

00:29:23.000 I'm being super mean here to people that are my friends and don't deserve it, but this is my interpretation.

00:29:28.000 I'm sorry.

00:29:30.000 And he had me on to talk about my infamous Christmas cards.

00:29:33.000 And I thought, you know, maybe I have a myopic obsession with the damage of the far left, but the whole show reeked of that.

00:29:41.000 First of all, I can't show my cards because I have to black out my wife and my kids' faces because lunatics are trying to kill me and think that they can, if they attack me and my family, it'll somehow be better for their cause.

00:29:54.000 I couldn't even talk about how I like to decorate my house with Merry Christmas stuff because that might show people that they're at the right house when they stalk me and want to attack me.

00:30:04.000 So that wasn't a reason why liberals had ruined this segment.

00:30:07.000 And then the other segment, the other reason it was ruined is because I feel like these, I call them sh ⁇ chests. 1.00

00:30:16.000 And again, to reiterate why I call them that, I love women. 1.00

00:30:19.000 But women who have been ripped from tradition and have been denied babies and marriage, they're like a robot who's been frazzled. 1.00

00:30:26.000 And it's like Iron Man, you took out that glowing orb from the center and you put a piece of poop there.

00:30:31.000 And you created a shit chest.

00:30:34.000 So they're good things.

00:30:35.000 They're good robots, but there's a major malfunction with them.

00:30:38.000 And to hear them nattering on and screaming and showing pictures of their dogs, it just seemed profoundly sad to me.

00:30:45.000 Women without families shouldn't send Christmas cards. 1.00

00:30:49.000 Christmas is a sad time for women over 25 to be hanging around. 0.99

00:30:54.000 They go home, their poor mothers say, what's going on with you?

00:30:57.000 And she goes, he dumped me when I turned 29.

00:31:00.000 He dumped me when I turned 32.

00:31:02.000 He dumped me when I turned 39.

00:31:04.000 He said he wanted kids, and I said I didn't want to because I thought I didn't want to.

00:31:08.000 You want kids, by the way.

00:31:09.000 Just so you know, men and women.

00:31:10.000 Anyway, off at several tangents.

00:31:12.000 But because these cackling hens didn't let me get a word in Edgewise, likely because they were insecure about their own lack of Christmas relevance, I thought I'd just take some time before I show you the segment so I can show you my amazing Christmas cards.

00:31:26.000 Now, I explain my Christmas cards on the show with Bill, but basically, my Christmas cards lampoon terrible people.

00:31:35.000 And I've got a big letter that I include with the card.

00:31:38.000 Now, this one was 2011.

00:31:41.000 And you can see there's my daughter there.

00:31:43.000 I didn't cover her face because her face is totally different now.

00:31:45.000 This was a long time ago.

00:31:47.000 And we called this one the Prince.

00:31:49.000 This was Prince Angel.

00:31:50.000 I called my son Prince Angel.

00:31:52.000 In Photoshop, I made his cheeks rosier and stuff.

00:31:56.000 And I said, we're going to get into theater.

00:31:58.000 And we're taking him down.

00:31:59.000 There's a week in LA where you go for pilot week or something.

00:32:03.000 And you stay in these homes that are almost like Curious Joel.

00:32:08.000 It's almost like a ski resort.

00:32:09.000 There's all these residences of people just living there for one cause, whether it's Orthodox Judaism, skiing, or getting your kids into TV.

00:32:18.000 They all look the same, these duplexes.

00:32:21.000 And we talked about that the whole time.

00:32:22.000 We talked about his agent, his cast agent.

00:32:24.000 And then the very last sentence was, Sophie is doing fine.

00:32:30.000 Funny, right?

00:32:31.000 It was all about Prince Angel.

00:32:32.000 And then the next year, Prince Angel had led us down.

00:32:36.000 Actually, I'm staggering some of these.

00:32:38.000 Look, mom, dad, Johnny, at all at the bottom there.

00:32:43.000 So Prince Angel didn't work out.

00:32:45.000 He's in clothes that don't fit him.

00:32:48.000 Sophie's wearing her mom's undershirt, and she's eating hummus out of a paper bag without her head shaved.

00:32:54.000 And then this was all about our new addition to the family, Johnny, super cool.

00:33:00.000 My wife, by the way, unfortunately, I can't show her face, but she's covered with blue eyeshadow and green eyeshadow. 1.00

00:33:06.000 And this was just this garish couple, totally obsessed with their baby who totally forgot about their two other kids.

00:33:13.000 I crack myself up.

00:33:15.000 This one is a good one.

00:33:16.000 At the Knights of Columbus, Hell's Kitchen, this is on their sort of corkboard.

00:33:20.000 And I don't think the Grand Knight really had a good look at it.

00:33:24.000 I think he just thought, oh, that's nice.

00:33:25.000 Kevin sent us a credit card, a credit card, a Christmas card, and he stuck it on the wall.

00:33:30.000 But it's actually brilliant.

00:33:32.000 Here you see our nanny. 1.00

00:33:33.000 The card does have this, by the way.

00:33:36.000 The card does have her eyes blacked out. 0.99

00:33:38.000 And there's Johnny, who led us down.

00:33:41.000 So we've moved on, and now we're all about our dance lessons.

00:33:45.000 And this entire letter was about the different dance moves we're doing.

00:33:49.000 And I talked about the instructor and how handsome he is.

00:33:52.000 He's Spanish.

00:33:52.000 I forget what name I made up for him, like Ricardo.

00:33:55.000 And then you'll notice the kids are just in the background on screens because we don't love them anymore.

00:34:01.000 So we've become totally selfish human beings.

00:34:04.000 Oh, and look, I Miloed up my teeth and I made myself into a handsome horse.

00:34:10.000 God, I cannot find that tuxedo blazer anywhere.

00:34:13.000 That was really expensive.

00:34:15.000 And then here's last year.

00:34:17.000 Last year we were punks on the streets.

00:34:21.000 Some bad investments had left us to be homeless, crusty punks.

00:34:25.000 I was wearing blonde dreads there.

00:34:27.000 Johnny really got into it and had a good pose.

00:34:30.000 The resolution isn't that great here.

00:34:31.000 Again, can't show you my wife, but I made all these costumes. 0.99

00:34:35.000 Like I, she's, Sophie's got studs in her vest. 0.98

00:34:37.000 He's got all studs.

00:34:38.000 These are crass patches sewn on.

00:34:41.000 That's my old leather jacket from when I was 18.

00:34:43.000 I don't care about my dog.

00:34:44.000 No need to black out his eyes.

00:34:46.000 I just stole that joke from a show, and you're about to see where I stole it from.

00:34:49.000 That's embarrassing.

00:34:50.000 Now, there's some inconsistencies here.

00:34:53.000 Like, crass punks would likely never be hanging out with Cockney Rejects punks.

00:34:57.000 And a Krass Punk usually wouldn't wear leather boots because he'd be a vegetarian.

00:35:00.000 But I think I slipped those under the radar.

00:35:03.000 Anyway.

00:35:04.000 Oh, and that letter that came with that was all about following these fans.

00:35:07.000 And he actually used to be the basis for Concrete Sucks, but he's playing with Napalm Death now because Napalm Death reformed after Godflesh split up.

00:35:15.000 It's really hilarious.

00:35:17.000 And it all comes from this terrible Christmas card we got from a close friend of ours about 10 years ago.

00:35:22.000 But anyway, speaking of crapping on friends, here is a terrible interview where I was on the Bill Schultz show.

00:35:29.000 I recorded it for my show.

00:35:31.000 And all I can smell when I watch this is dried up ovaries and a libertarian family man under siege. 0.63

00:35:39.000 And both those groups have been ruined, terrorized, and afflicted by the left.

00:35:46.000 Well, Gavin, we were just doing a...

00:35:49.000 I'm great.

00:35:49.000 How are you doing, Billy?

00:35:51.000 Look at this.

00:35:51.000 I love it.

00:35:52.000 We actually have a dupecast going on right now.

00:35:54.000 I'm putting you on my show.

00:35:56.000 So, Bill, welcome to Get Off My Lawn.

00:35:58.000 It's great to have you on the show today.

00:36:01.000 All right.

00:36:01.000 I mean, thank you for having me, Gavin.

00:36:03.000 Look, I'll take what I can get, particularly since this show is in desperate need of at least a little bit of testosterone right now.

00:36:08.000 It's an all-lady panel on an all-lady Thursday.

00:36:11.000 I mean, I'm a boy, so speak for yourself.

00:36:13.000 Come on, guys.

00:36:14.000 This is.

00:36:16.000 We basically, I wanted to talk to you today because you did something starting several years back, which I now annually look forward to.

00:36:23.000 And if I don't get one, I will actually email him and tell him to send it to me.

00:36:27.000 But can you sort of explain to all of us the McGinnis family tradition of Christmas cards?

00:36:34.000 Well, it started, we have these friends whose daughter was born the same time our daughter was born.

00:36:39.000 And we would get these Christmas cards that had this big letter that talked about how successful they are and their daughter's piano lessons.

00:36:46.000 And one of the lines that really drove me nuts is she said, sometimes I asked my husband to pinch me so I know I'm not dreaming.

00:36:56.000 I love that.

00:36:57.000 That was completely sincere.

00:36:58.000 Kinky ass bitch. 1.00

00:37:01.000 So ever since then, our Christmas cards have been a parody of them.

00:37:07.000 And I don't know if they know.

00:37:08.000 I actually don't send it to them because I don't want them to know.

00:37:10.000 No, they don't.

00:37:11.000 Those people don't seem very self-aware.

00:37:13.000 Oh, this is so great.

00:37:14.000 We had my daughter, my son, we called Prince Angel.

00:37:19.000 I actually emailed, I texted some of these to John.

00:37:23.000 We had our son, Prince Angel, and he's going to be in theater, and our daughter was just in the background.

00:37:29.000 We've had them where our nanny is in the background. 0.99

00:37:32.000 I could actually pull these up.

00:37:34.000 Are you kidding me?

00:37:35.000 No, we don't like visuals on this.

00:37:38.000 It's a multimedia venture here.

00:37:40.000 It's unbelievable.

00:37:41.000 I remember for several years, there was definitely a theme of one being more favorite than the other, children-wise.

00:37:50.000 That is the theme.

00:37:56.000 Right.

00:37:57.000 And favoritism.

00:37:59.000 Here we go.

00:38:00.000 What a delight you are.

00:38:03.000 Now, I have to.

00:38:04.000 You have to be a good person.

00:38:06.000 Shut up, everyone.

00:38:09.000 Stop, stop, stop.

00:38:10.000 It just goes on like that.

00:38:11.000 It's a cacophony of hens and people wasting time.

00:38:14.000 People who shouldn't be talking about Christmas, talking about Christmas.

00:38:17.000 I want to talk about something more important.

00:38:18.000 My friend Trigger Tommy is facing prison time for knifing Antifa, for knifing the alt-left.

00:38:25.000 Well, that sounds pretty bad.

00:38:26.000 No, the exact same thing could happen to you.

00:38:29.000 This all started back in 2010.

00:38:30.000 He was living in Portland, which is like living in liberal loony land.

00:38:35.000 And some people found out that he's not a communist and he's actually kind of more like Johnny Ramon, more right-wing.

00:38:41.000 And so they decided he was a Nazi and they beat the crap out of him and he fought back and got in some good blows.

00:38:47.000 They decided that that wasn't good enough and he had to be punished more.

00:38:50.000 They started making up lies.

00:38:51.000 They say he shot some anti-FUD dudes.

00:38:53.000 They said he's part of Daily Stormer that said he has a secret Nazi identity.

00:38:57.000 All lies.

00:38:59.000 This is a kangaroo court.

00:39:01.000 But eventually, after losing his job and having all his friends terrorized and getting stalked everywhere he went, he said, fine, you know what?

00:39:07.000 I got to get out of here.

00:39:08.000 So he goes to Chicago, starts a new life, and he's okay for a while.

00:39:12.000 But thanks to social media, word gets out that this evil person, this person who, by the way, used to be left-wing, you see, like when Cassandra Fairbanks went from a Bernie Bro to a Trump person, they got really mad.

00:39:24.000 They hate defectors more than anything, communists.

00:39:27.000 So they would attack Cassandra's daughter and not literally, but just as bad, make threats to the daughter.

00:39:32.000 So on, what was it, April 11th, he's at a pool hall called Delilah's, and word gets out that he's there.

00:39:38.000 Immediately they go get their friends and they beat him with pool cues.

00:39:41.000 They cut a big gash in the back of his head.

00:39:44.000 There it is.

00:39:45.000 And he fights back and gets a few of them.

00:39:47.000 But the taunting increases after that.

00:39:48.000 Want to come out and play pool, Tommy?

00:39:51.000 This goes on and on all over social media.

00:39:53.000 Everywhere he goes, he sees people whispering, getting on their expensive $700 iPhones, saying, let's go kill this guy.

00:39:59.000 Anyway, on August 9th of this year, he went to a rancid show, a punk show.

00:40:04.000 And the alt mob started moving in on him.

00:40:07.000 The alt-left mob, the anti-Fo, these weird skinheads, these communist skinheads start moving in on him.

00:40:13.000 And after all these beatings and all this terror and all these verbal attacks, he eventually had a knife ready.

00:40:18.000 And he goes, look, guys, I don't want to fight.

00:40:20.000 Just please stand back.

00:40:22.000 And for some reason, I don't get this part of the story, but they just went, no, I'm coming at you.

00:40:26.000 So they kept coming.

00:40:27.000 They kept swarming.

00:40:28.000 And so he fought back.

00:40:30.000 And he sliced two of them really badly.

00:40:32.000 Now, we just got him out of jail on bail, but we need money to fight this trial.

00:40:37.000 Chicago justice moves very slowly.

00:40:40.000 So please go to WeSearcher, W-E-S-E-A-R-C-H-R.com, and it's the bounties, Tommy Christensen Legal Defense Fund.

00:40:50.000 If you just look up WeSearcher, Trigger Tommy, then it'll show up instantly.

00:40:54.000 And I'll pin the tweet.

00:40:56.000 But we really want to raise some serious money by Monday.

00:40:59.000 He's going in.

00:41:00.000 Every time with this Chicago stuff, there's like another update, another update.

00:41:04.000 But Monday's a big deal.

00:41:05.000 And I want to raise some money for him by Monday.

00:41:08.000 We're far from our goal.

00:41:09.000 And I'm telling you, not only is this guy innocent, but this same kind of Frankenstein mob hunt, witch hunt, loony mentality could lead to you.

00:41:19.000 You could be the next trigger, Tommy.

00:41:21.000 Michael Chevy.

00:41:25.000 Hi, welcome back to Onion Rings with Rick Shapiro.

00:41:28.000 Rick Shapiro, actually.

00:41:29.000 and today we're going to talk about Bruce Springsteen.

00:41:39.000 Bruce Springsteen, the greatest hidden poet.

00:41:44.000 I never heard of it.

00:41:45.000 Bruce Springsteen.

00:41:47.000 You know something when you're scared, you think it's done, you think you did everything?

00:41:52.000 And you're like, now what do I want to do?

00:41:54.000 I don't want to do normal things.

00:41:57.000 I want to steal that guy's girl and cross it. 1.00

00:42:00.000 I want to do this, I want to fall in love again.

00:42:06.000 I said, I'm not putting on Bruce.

00:42:07.000 I'm not putting on Bruce.

00:42:08.000 You make me violently end this.

00:42:13.000 And I play my life.

00:42:16.000 Oh, that was close.

00:42:18.000 I got to do something.

00:42:20.000 I got to perform.

00:42:20.000 I got to grab a girl.

Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - December 04, 2017

Get Off My Lawn #40 | Dirty Rock

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