Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - December 06, 2017


Get Off My Lawn #42 | Merry X-Mas!


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42 minutes

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523

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Gavin McInnes is joined by Jada Franson and Matthias Thorpe to talk about the anti-fucking apocalypse, and the recent firing of MSNBC's Samantha Seder. Gavin also talks about a new song, and why he thinks the 80s were the worst decade ever.

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00:00:12.000 Live from New York, it's Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McInnes.
00:00:35.000 Wow, music in the 80s sucked, didn't it?
00:00:40.000 Go jump into the middle of that song, Dave.
00:00:43.000 The lyrics are brutal.
00:00:45.000 My body screams.
00:00:46.000 Please make love.
00:00:49.000 Pinch my scare and you're lying there.
00:00:52.000 I pinched myself as you're lying there.
00:00:56.000 Keep going.
00:00:57.000 I'm really scared.
00:00:59.000 Too much to ask, even for a fantasy.
00:01:08.000 Did you hear her squealing there? 0.99
00:01:10.000 I am convinced that music was that bad in the 80s because of cocaine.
00:01:15.000 It gave people unjustified hubris and they had no shame about going, my body screams, police make love to me.
00:01:27.000 And everyone is just sitting in the studio going, yep, that sounds reasonable.
00:01:31.000 Yeah, that's not embarrassing at all.
00:01:32.000 Let's turn it up.
00:01:33.000 That's a hit.
00:01:34.000 Starpoint was that band, and the song was object of my desire.
00:01:39.000 I don't think it's very good.
00:01:40.000 Merry Christmas.
00:01:42.000 Merry Xmas is on the front page of the post.
00:01:44.000 Something about sports.
00:01:45.000 Who cares?
00:01:47.000 I've got to make this intro very short because we have two great guests today.
00:01:50.000 We have Matthias Thorpe, who went to an anti-fuck conference and said, I'm just going to talk to these people.
00:01:58.000 And he ended up in the hospital.
00:01:59.000 So we'll talk to him and his battered face.
00:02:02.000 And then we have Jada Franson, who I'm very excited to speak to.
00:02:05.000 This is the woman who runs Britain First. 0.93
00:02:07.000 She's the face of Britain First, and she put up three Muslim videos of Muslims behaving very badly. 1.00
00:02:15.000 And Trump retweeted it, and that became the big thing, that Trump's retweeting Nazis.
00:02:20.000 Chris Hayes, the entire media just takes it for granted.
00:02:23.000 Anderson Cooper, we now have Trump retweeting Nazis.
00:02:26.000 They don't get, though, that when you hear someone is a Nazi in Britain, they are remarkably moderate.
00:02:31.000 I'll be repeating all these points many times in case you tune out.
00:02:33.000 But before we get to any of that, let's catch up on the gossip.
00:02:37.000 So MSNBC fires Sam Seder after alt-right group digs up old Polanski joke.
00:02:43.000 Now, Sam Cedar, I'm not a fan.
00:02:45.000 He dated Sarah Silverman many years ago.
00:02:48.000 How do you let Sarah Silverman go?
00:02:50.000 I know very few people who watch this show like her, but I think she's a catch, an annoying catch. 0.99
00:02:57.000 But Sam Cedar is one of these liberal journalists.
00:03:01.000 Everyone is a Nazi.
00:03:02.000 Trump's a Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi.
00:03:03.000 So he picks a fight with Cernovich.
00:03:05.000 Cernovich digs through his quotes and then finds, do you have the actual tweet, Dave?
00:03:13.000 It says something like, I look forward to my daughter getting raped by someone who is good at all miss film or something like that.
00:03:21.000 Now, the content of his joke was mocking the tolerance we have.
00:03:27.000 Yeah, don't care, Ray Plansky, but I hope if my daughter's ever raped, it is by an older, truly talented man with a great sense of mise on scene.
00:03:33.000 Yes.
00:03:34.000 So, we know what his joke was about.
00:03:36.000 His joke was mocking those who are tolerant of Roman Polanski's pedophilia.
00:03:39.000 So, I don't think he should be fired.
00:03:41.000 No.
00:03:42.000 But, I'm not crying a lot of tears for Sam.
00:03:46.000 You know, he plays this game.
00:03:47.000 He gets people fired, and you start picking fights with people.
00:03:52.000 Eventually, it turns on you, and your own stupid logic is rammed down your throat.
00:03:56.000 I mean, this happens to us all the time.
00:03:58.000 Pax Dickinson had, I'm going to use the word Canadian for the N-word here.
00:04:04.000 He said, some woman is going to get raped by a pack of Canadians. 0.96
00:04:08.000 And it was in a comical context, and it raped by a pack of Canadians. 0.99
00:04:11.000 So Pax was mocking Mel Gibson, but out of context, it looked like he was just saying raped by a pack of Canadians, and he lost his job for that.
00:04:20.000 Okay, liberals, you want to play that game? 0.99
00:04:22.000 That means you can get fired for your jokes taken out of context.
00:04:26.000 So unjustified, morally wrong, but I'm totally fine with it.
00:04:32.000 So this is John Oliver.
00:04:34.000 John Oliver confronted Dustin Hoffman at a wag the dog thing in a joodle, and he criticized him for his sexual harassment allegations.
00:04:44.000 Sorry, let's go back to that.
00:04:46.000 There's one line which has been running around my head.
00:04:48.000 She said, no one is 100% good or bad.
00:04:51.000 True, right?
00:04:53.000 Dustin's a pig, but I like him a lot.
00:04:56.000 I mean, that is both extremely generous and damning.
00:05:00.000 See, again, I don't think you should have kangaroo courts without evidence where someone is framed based on a rumor, but I've got no skin in the game, and it's kind of fun watching the left cannibalize each other.
00:05:12.000 I'm enjoying seeing John Oliver attack Dustin Hoffman.
00:05:15.000 I like all these lefties having to meet their own standards.
00:05:19.000 It's fun.
00:05:20.000 It's fun watching them suffer.
00:05:23.000 But while we thoroughly enjoy seeing the left eat itself, we also have to watch the left destroy the entire Western world.
00:05:33.000 Let's start with their war on free speech, which is today's focus.
00:05:37.000 And let's start with Matthias.
00:05:40.000 Matthias, are you there?
00:05:42.000 I'm here.
00:05:43.000 You look like crap.
00:05:47.000 I thought I looked a little bit better now.
00:05:49.000 I mean.
00:05:50.000 You look like something out of Star Wars.
00:05:51.000 You look like you're in the Star Wars bar and you're a different species. 0.66
00:05:57.000 You like the nice shade of green that I've got going on my face.
00:06:02.000 Oh my lord, you got those both eyes sealed shut.
00:06:05.000 And this has been a couple days since you were beat up, right?
00:06:07.000 Yeah, it's been about four days, four or five days.
00:06:11.000 We have pictures of you in the actual hospital where you looked a lot worse, if that's possible.
00:06:19.000 I was pretty swollen up in the hospital, and I was pretty red.
00:06:23.000 And I was also very bloody at that time, too, because, you know, I got hit in the nose and everything just went.
00:06:29.000 I had Blood all over my clothes, my jacket, my shoes, my pants, everywhere.
00:06:36.000 So it was a pretty bloody incident.
00:06:38.000 It sure was.
00:06:38.000 So your crime was trying to talk to Antifa and saying, guys, let's work this out.
00:06:45.000 I want to hear your side.
00:06:46.000 I want you to hear my side.
00:06:48.000 Well, basically, I went in there to confront the author, and I think I did it in a pretty professional manner.
00:06:55.000 I went, I asked my question.
00:06:57.000 He pretty much ignored the question.
00:06:59.000 He sidetracked it because I wanted him to talk a little bit about how Antifa kind of started out of the communist movement and how it was kind of more of an arm of the communist movement as opposed to really fighting against fascism.
00:07:13.000 So it's like my question was, well, was communist fascism that killed over 150 million people worse than the Mussolini and Nazi fascism that killed somewhere around 12 million?
00:07:27.000 So I wanted him to somehow identify the fact that, well, communist Russia was still a fascist regime.
00:07:33.000 Antifa came out of that.
00:07:35.000 And he didn't want to answer that question, of course.
00:07:37.000 And I got a lot of hostility from the audience in the room.
00:07:42.000 People shouting at me and saying different things like, you know, fascism started in Germany and just all this stuff.
00:07:49.000 So the room was very hostile.
00:07:51.000 And, you know, Mark was really trying to, I think, make a joke out of me and what I was doing.
00:07:58.000 And I just wanted to be an alternative voice in that room because I knew a lot of people wouldn't know about Antifa, who they really were, about the free speech movement.
00:08:09.000 And I didn't want him to get away with telling all these lies without somebody saying, hey, that's not right.
00:08:15.000 So, yeah, so that was kind of the main focus of going there.
00:08:19.000 But after the meeting, you know, I was very respectful to all the people there.
00:08:24.000 There was one guy who came up to me.
00:08:25.000 He said, are you one of the organizers of one of the free speech rallies?
00:08:30.000 So we had one in November as well, and I helped out with that.
00:08:34.000 And I said, yeah.
00:08:34.000 And I asked him if he wanted to talk.
00:08:36.000 And he said, I don't want to talk to you.
00:08:37.000 And he walked away.
00:08:38.000 And we talked to another person from the Antifa group who was pretty decent.
00:08:44.000 I told him, I said, I don't want to hurt you.
00:08:46.000 I don't want to, I don't hate you.
00:08:48.000 I don't want to commit violence.
00:08:49.000 I said, we just want to talk.
00:08:51.000 We just want to have dialogue.
00:08:52.000 And he was pretty okay with that.
00:08:54.000 But there was this last group of people that came out of the store somewhere before the store closed.
00:09:00.000 And they pointed at me and said, he's a Nazi, attacked me.
00:09:04.000 So of course they bring their women in front to attack me and distract me. 0.99
00:09:08.000 And then there's stronger people behind me to hit me in the face and basically sucker punch me and bum rush me.
00:09:16.000 So are you a Nazi?
00:09:18.000 No.
00:09:20.000 No, I am probably, I wouldn't even say that I am a hardcore Trump supporter.
00:09:26.000 Like I was probably more of a liberal.
00:09:29.000 I was very apolitical before August.
00:09:33.000 So I saw the free speech rally that happened in August, knew nothing about the free speech movement, knew nothing about anything.
00:09:42.000 Didn't know anything about you because I know that you were one of the speakers.
00:09:45.000 You were planning to be one of the speakers there.
00:09:48.000 And I looked at the list of people who were supposed to speak and I said, I don't see anything that controversial about any of these people.
00:09:56.000 This is the Boston Free Speech Rally?
00:09:59.000 This was the one in August, the one where 45,000 people showed up to protest.
00:10:04.000 That was one of the most ridiculous things in the history of American politics.
00:10:08.000 It was an Indian man holding up a free speech sign with 30,000 people screaming, no Nazi, at him.
00:10:18.000 And he agrees with them.
00:10:19.000 What the hell?
00:10:21.000 And he said that he chased out the KKK.
00:10:24.000 He said that he had signs that said black lives do matter.
00:10:28.000 So the whole thing was just, I mean, it really made Boston look very stupid.
00:10:33.000 It sure did.
00:10:34.000 So when we had our rally again in November, there was about a thousand counter-protesters that showed up.
00:10:40.000 So a lot of those people that showed up the last time, they either didn't, there wasn't as much news about it because there wasn't the hysteria, or they realized that they protested an Indian guy and people from, you know, I think there was a black guy that had a speech.
00:10:57.000 There was a socialist that talked.
00:10:59.000 So yeah, the whole thing was ridiculous.
00:11:02.000 And I knew something was wrong.
00:11:03.000 And this had happened right after Charlottesville.
00:11:05.000 I knew something was wrong with the whole Charlottesville connection.
00:11:08.000 And, you know, so.
00:11:10.000 Well, that's why I didn't go.
00:11:12.000 I knew it was going to be linked to that.
00:11:13.000 And there's just no, you just can't argue with these people, as you just found out.
00:11:18.000 And that brings me to my last question is, if my brother said, hey, I'm going to go to an antifoot talk and try to reason with them, I'd say, no, Kyle, don't go within 100 miles of that place.
00:11:30.000 So you had to know it was going to get violent.
00:11:33.000 These people are irrational.
00:11:35.000 You had to know it was a coin toss, whether you'd get beat up or not.
00:11:38.000 I knew that there was a chance of trouble, but I didn't exactly know who was going to show up.
00:11:44.000 I didn't know it was going to be so highly concentrated with these sort of communist Antifa groups.
00:11:50.000 Because I know in Berkeley, there's a girl, Ashton Witty, I think is her name.
00:11:57.000 And she showed up to one of these talks by Mark Bray.
00:12:01.000 And it seemed like it was mostly just old people who were just trying to figure out who this guy was and trying to figure out, you know, what Antifa was.
00:12:10.000 I didn't expect such a hostile environment.
00:12:13.000 I expected a little bit, but I know going into these things because this isn't the first time I've gone into a meeting that talks about opposing ideas.
00:12:23.000 You know, these people are very aggressive.
00:12:25.000 I've been to protests where, you know, I've tried to talk with people.
00:12:28.000 I've gone to meetings of like the Democratic Socialists of America, where at the very end, people were yelling at me and telling me I'm not welcome here just for asking questions.
00:12:38.000 You know, so it's like, you can't, like I said, I'm losing hope every day about whether or not we can reason with any of these people and work this out because as time goes on, I just think the climate gets crazier and crazier.
00:12:54.000 Well, I've been saying it for a long time.
00:12:55.000 I don't think chicks should go to rallies on our side, Trump chicks. 1.00
00:12:59.000 I don't think we should Go to Islamberg and ask those Muslims what they're doing because I think they're jihadis. 1.00
00:13:04.000 And if you want to go talk to Antifa, I think you need to have at least 20 guys who are willing to brawl with you at the time.
00:13:12.000 We're not dealing with sane people, we're dealing with crazy ex-girlfriends.
00:13:16.000 Yeah, yeah, I had a group of three people.
00:13:19.000 One guy already got kicked out because somebody had a confrontation with him in the bookstore.
00:13:24.000 And then when we left and we came back, I thought most of these people had left.
00:13:30.000 I thought they were all gone.
00:13:32.000 But the Antifa here on the East Coast is not as crazy as the ones out on the West Coast.
00:13:38.000 But I don't know where these people came from.
00:13:40.000 We're still trying to work on getting video of the incident itself.
00:13:44.000 So, you know, the Antifa that we saw in November, they were cowards.
00:13:49.000 You know, we had Joey Gibson go out into the crowd and walk through the crowd of a thousand counter-protesters, and none of them did anything.
00:13:58.000 Yeah.
00:13:58.000 Yeah, the East Coast, it's mostly professors' sons, rich academics.
00:14:03.000 Yeah.
00:14:03.000 Well, good luck.
00:14:05.000 Are you pressing charges?
00:14:06.000 Are you suing?
00:14:07.000 Are you taking legal action?
00:14:08.000 What's the plan there?
00:14:09.000 That's what I'm planning.
00:14:11.000 I'm trying to take legal action against the COOP because they're not cooperating with us.
00:14:18.000 Trying to get a hold of the Cambridge Police Department because they're the ones responsible for handling the case.
00:14:23.000 I've heard nothing from them yet.
00:14:25.000 And I mean, this is a domestic terrorist attack, and I've heard absolutely nothing from their end.
00:14:32.000 I want to take this to the furthest extent because, you know, you can blame a lot of people on this incident.
00:14:37.000 You can blame Marty Walsh, the police commissioner, all these people who said that we were neo-Nazis back in August because they never corrected that record.
00:14:47.000 So many people who either don't know about who we are or didn't get any further news about the incident still think that Nazis came to Boston in August.
00:14:58.000 They still think that.
00:15:00.000 And they think that they chased them away.
00:15:03.000 So this is going to be a big ordeal.
00:15:06.000 And it's like, yeah, I wish I wouldn't have gotten into a fight.
00:15:09.000 But in a way, I think this is going to bring a lot of attention to at least the city and Antifa and kind of the whole free speech movement over here in Boston.
00:15:19.000 Because, you know, we need to make, I think, headway here in Boston because it's the cradle of liberty.
00:15:26.000 You know, I think if we conquer Boston, we can conquer the entire nation.
00:15:31.000 Well, that's a good attitude to have, especially with your eyes sealed shut.
00:15:36.000 Yeah, you know, I'm the thing is, is like I said, when you go into these things, when you try to stand up for what is right, like I understand, you know, you have to definitely use some common sense here and try to be careful.
00:15:47.000 Unfortunately, I let my guard down because I was having such good conversations with certain people and everything was friendly.
00:15:54.000 But, you know, some of these people are not.
00:15:56.000 Some of these people want to commit violence and you just have to be aware of that.
00:15:59.000 So I'll definitely be bringing some self-defense, you know, some bear mace or something with me any other time I go to an opposing rally to protect myself.
00:16:11.000 Sad that in the free world you're left carrying mace anytime you want to talk to someone.
00:16:15.000 Well, the good news is you're a martyr now for the right, and that means when you die, you go to heaven and there's 72 virgins waiting to make love to you.
00:16:24.000 So that's, and they're all attractive.
00:16:27.000 I'm pretty happy about that.
00:16:29.000 There's a couple chubby ones in there, but you'll want them after you get through the first 68.
00:16:34.000 You want some variety to spice it up.
00:16:38.000 Thanks, Matthias.
00:16:39.000 Thanks for coming on the show.
00:16:40.000 Yeah, thank you so much for having me.
00:16:42.000 Cheers, buddy.
00:16:48.000 Donald Trump's racist retweets are offensive to all of us.
00:16:52.000 Britain should withdraw its state visit invitation to Donald Trump in the wake of his sharing of Britain first videos.
00:16:58.000 Say 38 political and religious figures.
00:17:02.000 Britain has lost its mind, and I want you to know something.
00:17:04.000 I'm a Britain expert.
00:17:06.000 I was born there.
00:17:06.000 And when you hear that someone is far right in Britain, they're moderate in America.
00:17:10.000 That whole country, because the government controls their media, the BBC, is state-controlled thought policing.
00:17:18.000 And you will get jailed for a racist tweet.
00:17:20.000 You'll get jailed for throwing bacon on a mosque where you will be killed in prison. 0.99
00:17:23.000 We've got Count Dankula facing prison time for teaching his pug to Ziegheil.
00:17:28.000 Meanwhile, child rape gangs are totally ignored.
00:17:31.000 So Donald Trump retweeted Britain First, three tweets, three videos, one smashing the Virgin Mary, the other murdering a teenage boy, the other a crippled boy being beaten.
00:17:41.000 And the focus is not on the content of those videos, but on Britain First.
00:17:45.000 So you go, oh, okay, well, maybe they are Nazis.
00:17:48.000 Let me look them up.
00:17:49.000 Britain First, first thing on their page is Britain First and Racism.
00:17:55.000 That's the first thing that comes up.
00:17:57.000 And then they've got, you go to their videos, and they've got a big video about how they're not racist, and they want you to know that they're a multicultural group.
00:18:05.000 They're just against Islamification. 0.99
00:18:09.000 Which is pretty reasonable when we have a massive rape epidemic. 1.00
00:18:14.000 But Britain is so obsessed with not offending Muslims that even Manchester, we found out the other day that they had plenty of information showing that Manchester was going to be a major attack.
00:18:25.000 They knew who these people were, but no, they ignored it.
00:18:29.000 They didn't want to be racist.
00:18:30.000 So 22 beautiful young girls dead.
00:18:34.000 500 injured at that thing because we don't want to appear racist.
00:18:39.000 We don't want to offend anyone.
00:18:41.000 It's absolutely ridiculous.
00:18:44.000 And by the way, I know this sounds weird to you when you hear these numbers, like 2,500 girls sex slaves, 1,400 here.
00:18:52.000 This is what happens is they're not living there like with collars around their neck behind cages.
00:18:56.000 They go to these kebab shops after school, these young girls 13 years old, and they get plied with cigarettes and vodka.
00:19:03.000 They already hate themselves because of British culture, and they look up to these Muslim men. 0.99
00:19:07.000 And then these Muslim men have them turning tricks. 1.00
00:19:10.000 Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them.
00:19:12.000 Thousands over the course of the past 15 years.
00:19:15.000 Jada was approached when she was a teenage girl by these guys.
00:19:19.000 She's aware of what's going on.
00:19:21.000 But no, we have to focus on the fact that someone might be racist because that's much more important than when someone is a rapist.
00:19:28.000 Let's talk to Jada about this.
00:19:30.000 Jada Franson, are you there?
00:19:32.000 I am indeed.
00:19:34.000 Now, I've had you on my radar for quite a while now because I'm originally British and I care about that country and I don't like it seeing Islamicized, but you're all over the mainstream American news now. 1.00
00:19:44.000 Yeah.
00:19:45.000 And that is because Donald Trump retweeted three of your tweets.
00:19:51.000 And instantly, the American media just went off on this whole racist, he's retweeting racist things.
00:20:00.000 Look at that.
00:20:00.000 This is Tucker Carlson.
00:20:03.000 This morning, the president started his day by promoting anti-Muslim fascist propaganda, retweeting videos posted by the leader of a British hate group called Britain's First Jada France Initiative.
00:20:14.000 Okay, so that goes on.
00:20:16.000 And I thought, I think what's going on here is Britain is incredibly politically correct.
00:20:23.000 I blame the media class, the BBC.
00:20:25.000 And when they say a hate group, it really just means a moderate patriot group like the Tea Party.
00:20:32.000 Absolutely.
00:20:32.000 I mean, a political party, no less.
00:20:35.000 But yeah, anyone who is remotely patriotic is all of the above.
00:20:42.000 I mean, I can't even name everything they've called us because I've lost track.
00:20:47.000 But it's incredible.
00:20:49.000 The frenzy that the world media has got into just from three retweets is quite incredible.
00:20:56.000 Well, I went to your site, BritainFirst.org, and the first thing that comes up is a big video saying, we're a multicultural group.
00:21:03.000 Here's all the different races involved.
00:21:05.000 Islam isn't a race.
00:21:06.000 We're just against Islamification. 1.00
00:21:08.000 Yes.
00:21:10.000 Absolutely.
00:21:11.000 I even talk to British people and they go, oh, no, mate. 0.99
00:21:14.000 Britain First, they don't really vet.
00:21:16.000 They don't vet their people well enough.
00:21:20.000 And there's some bad geezers in there. 1.00
00:21:24.000 I mean, I've never come across any bad geezers within Britain First. 0.96
00:21:29.000 To be honest, our people are just your average, everyday, working class, genuinely concerned people.
00:21:39.000 And this is where the political elite fall short because they're up in their ivory towers, all scoffing from the same trough.
00:21:46.000 They're self-serving career politicians.
00:21:49.000 They don't have the little people's interests at heart. 0.99
00:21:52.000 The likes of myself and Paul Golding.
00:21:55.000 And in fact, the majority of our leadership team, we're all from quite humble backgrounds.
00:22:01.000 We were raised, I was raised on a council estate in southeast London.
00:22:06.000 We've seen the direct ramifications of allowing mass immigration, Islamification. 1.00
00:22:13.000 I mean, my town is completely gone.
00:22:14.000 I'm from London, and I'm literally unable to walk through London without security because I get attacked.
00:22:21.000 And so this judgment that the establishment keeps throwing upon our people is actually really irresponsible and it's completely unfair.
00:22:29.000 And this week alone, I have seen the whole government, the opposition, everyone you can imagine stereotyping everyone that's involved in Britain first and calling them vile.
00:22:42.000 It's just disgraceful.
00:22:44.000 Well, I'm glad you brought up the elites because I was looking up, do you remember Andrew Neather?
00:22:50.000 He said he admitted, he was Tony Blair's speechwriter.
00:22:53.000 He admitted that he wanted to, him and Tony wanted to import tons of Muslim migrants to rub the right's nose in diversity. 0.99
00:23:03.000 And you talk about Ivory Towers.
00:23:05.000 You look up Andrew Neather and you see the ultimate climate-controlled wine walls and spiral cellars.
00:23:12.000 And here he is in his spiral cellar sampling wine.
00:23:17.000 I mean, it's like a parody.
00:23:21.000 How about this article?
00:23:22.000 He writes, hard times can't dampen our appetite for champagne.
00:23:26.000 And there's a photo of him literally playing with champagne.
00:23:33.000 So humble.
00:23:34.000 I mean, you just couldn't make it up.
00:23:37.000 This is what we are facing.
00:23:39.000 And do you know what?
00:23:40.000 I mean, on a more serious level, though, this is why the people elected Donald Trump.
00:23:46.000 Because they are sick.
00:23:48.000 And this is why Britain first is causing so many waves. 0.76
00:23:51.000 Because, you know, we share many views that Donald Trump has expressed throughout his presidential campaign and during his term in office.
00:23:58.000 You know, short time that it's been.
00:24:00.000 A lot of what he's doing, fantastic.
00:24:02.000 We're fully behind him.
00:24:04.000 And the reason we are growing, the reason Trump was elected is because everyone's sick of these people who are just living in a completely different world.
00:24:14.000 They will never understand what it's like to live next door to a family of Syrian refugees. 1.00
00:24:21.000 They won't know what it's like to have their daughters come home and say, I have been groomed by a gang of Muslims. 1.00
00:24:28.000 They're just, they're on a completely different planet.
00:24:31.000 And for them to be so blatant about this divide, this class division, as to, I mean, I'd be mortified if that kind of story was run and I was so pompous as to say, well, let's not allow the sorry state of Britain to inflict upon our indulgence in champagne.
00:24:51.000 It's just, they're completely out of touch.
00:24:53.000 And thankfully, the British public, just as the American public did have, now have an alternative, and that's Britain First. 0.61
00:25:00.000 Well, there's so much I want to talk about here.
00:25:03.000 I feel like we can only scratch the surface.
00:25:05.000 So there is a brutal class divide.
00:25:07.000 It seems like you're the victims, as working class Brits, you're the victims of a prank. 0.89
00:25:12.000 I mean, this guy is playing with champagne and rubbing your nose in it, and it's a game, and everything seems so allegorical.
00:25:20.000 Like the tweets, for example.
00:25:21.000 America is livid that he retweets you, but no one looks at the actual tweets.
00:25:29.000 And they say, oh, well, these tweets are fake.
00:25:31.000 Like there's a Muslim migrant who beats up a Dutch boy.
00:25:34.000 He's not a Muslim migrant. 0.99
00:25:36.000 He's a Dutch national.
00:25:37.000 And you go, we're splitting hairs here.
00:25:40.000 Do you mean that he has citizenship, but he's still named Muhammad?
00:25:44.000 Exactly.
00:25:45.000 I mean, look, nobody cares whether he's first, second, third generation.
00:25:50.000 Nobody cares about these minute details.
00:25:54.000 In fact, I mean, what would the left have done?
00:25:56.000 This is, I have wondered this over the last, since I've given maybe 150 interviews over the last few days.
00:26:03.000 I have wondered what on earth these people would have asked me if it weren't for that one video where that one young fella who maybe may have citizenship and may, you know, look, just like Angel Chowdhury's parents are both from Pakistan.
00:26:20.000 You know, the notorious Islamic hate preacher who's in prison now on terrorist charges?
00:26:24.000 Yes.
00:26:25.000 Guy with the two Pakistani parents who also has a British passport, which makes him a Brit, I guess. 0.91
00:26:32.000 Are we splitting hairs about him?
00:26:34.000 I mean, look, the fact is, the content is not fake.
00:26:38.000 But if it is, and if they're actors, then great.
00:26:41.000 Because that poor young boy who was pelted to death by this migrant of some extension was obviously just wiped himself off and said, where's my paycheck for that acting gig? 1.00
00:26:54.000 It's nonsense.
00:26:55.000 Well, what about the boy who is thrown off a building?
00:26:58.000 Was that a mannequin?
00:27:00.000 Or this guy smashing the Virgin Mary?
00:27:03.000 I mean, we have this myopic obsession with Nazis and finding racists, and you have a video of a boy being murdered right in your face, and you go, excuse me, I want to focus on the potential racism of Britain first.
00:27:18.000 I think it might just be that we can't handle the truth.
00:27:22.000 And we see the terror that is Islam. 1.00
00:27:24.000 We see the migrant gangs. 0.95
00:27:25.000 We see Manchester, and we just go, it's an anomaly.
00:27:30.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, the royal we.
00:27:33.000 Thankfully, that I'm not encompassed in that we.
00:27:36.000 But yeah, again, look, the fact is the media wrote this up as Donald Trump retweets vile, fascist, racist, far-right, every description under the sun, Jada Franson, who posted anti-Islamic videos.
00:27:54.000 Well, I don't know whether these videos have all been taken out of context.
00:27:57.000 Take it out of context.
00:27:58.000 Sound like a Muslim now, but look, I don't know how they've missed the fact that in the video, Muslims are throwing a poor young fella off a roof or that the Virgin Mary, the statue of the Virgin Mary has been smashed. 1.00
00:28:10.000 But somehow, the media are able to continue this professional victimhood of Muslims and say, this is so unfair.
00:28:20.000 I've read so many articles saying how it would have felt for American Muslims waking up to see Trump retweeting anti-Islamic tweets.
00:28:29.000 And I'm just like, what is going on in the world?
00:28:32.000 It is amazing.
00:28:33.000 And this ignorance also leaks to the police.
00:28:37.000 We just found out that the Manchester Arena terror attack could have been averted.
00:28:41.000 They had MI5 received intelligence in early 2017 that was highly relevant to the plans of the Manchester Arena attacker.
00:28:49.000 But they decided not to pursue it.
00:28:51.000 And we see this with the Muslim grooming gangs, where the police are so petrified of being racist, they don't stop child rape.
00:28:59.000 Yeah, I mean, again, this is one of the more serious byproducts of this name calling, because I'm so thick-skinned.
00:29:07.000 Like, you can call me absolutely anything.
00:29:10.000 I've heard it within the last five minutes.
00:29:13.000 And whether it's personal, whether it's to do with weight or looks, whatever.
00:29:18.000 Yeah, completely, I get it every day, it doesn't bother me.
00:29:23.000 So it all goes over your head.
00:29:26.000 In the same sentence, I've been accused of being a Zionist Nazi.
00:29:29.000 Like, I don't, it's just bizarre.
00:29:32.000 But on a more serious note, these are the implications and the ramifications of name-calling.
00:29:38.000 And we saw it with, for example, Rotherham, which wasn't actually the worst case in Britain.
00:29:44.000 So far that I know of, the worst case was Telford, where 2,300 girls were groomed, raped and tortured.
00:29:52.000 Rotherham was one of the big ones to, the main ones, to hit the headlines.
00:29:55.000 And it kind of exposed the ongoing, it's still happening now.
00:29:59.000 I'm facing trial for one of the cases, but obviously not for grooming, but for exposing it.
00:30:04.000 But Rotherham, 1,400 girls were groomed, raped, tortured. 0.57
00:30:08.000 There were children that were killed within this 16-year period.
00:30:12.000 And here's the problem with this name-calling, and here's the problem with the likes of Theresa May, Anne Barad, Sadiq Khan, all of those people who have been throwing these labels at me over the last few days.
00:30:23.000 The fact that they do it to me and I don't let it affect me makes me quite a rare case because the majority of people don't want to receive those labels.
00:30:31.000 They don't want, because that would impact on their jobs, on their lives, on their children, children's schooling.
00:30:37.000 And we saw in Rotherham over a 16-year period, the social services and the police force were so bullied and so scared of being accused of being racist for highlighting the fact that it was almost entirely Pakistani Muslim men that were carrying out the grooming and raping and torturing of non-Muslim British children because they didn't want to have to highlight that fact in case they were called racists.
00:31:03.000 They covered it up and 1,400 children that we know of, because let's face it, there's going to be more that didn't come forward, but 1,400 children have had their lives ruined.
00:31:14.000 So it is dangerous calling these names and I think certainly the British establishment have behaved irresponsibly and unprofessionally and I'm so pleased that Donald Trump has called them out at every opportunity.
00:31:27.000 God bless Trump.
00:31:28.000 Well, you literally have people going to jail for tweets.
00:31:31.000 You have those two Polish men who went to prison for throwing bacon on a mosque.
00:31:35.000 One of them was killed in prison.
00:31:37.000 They're constantly chasing Tommy Robinson down.
00:31:39.000 I had a pint with him when I was last in London.
00:31:41.000 Twelve police pulled him over and interrogated him on his way to meet me.
00:31:48.000 And you think, I'm totally confused by all this because, first of all, I was saying earlier how the brain can't handle all this.
00:31:59.000 I'm part of that.
00:32:00.000 I don't understand where you get 1,400 children from.
00:32:04.000 I mean, I think to get 1,400 children in my neighborhood, you'd have to go like a five square mile radius and get 100% of them.
00:32:13.000 Are they also Pakistani or are they white?
00:32:15.000 Who are these kids?
00:32:17.000 No, they were non-Muslim. 0.81
00:32:20.000 So they were predominantly white British children.
00:32:23.000 They were not targeting.
00:32:25.000 They were intentionally not targeting Muslim Pakistani children.
00:32:30.000 They weren't targeting their own.
00:32:31.000 This is no coincidence.
00:32:32.000 Like, this is in the scriptures.
00:32:34.000 It says, I've studied the Quran, I've studied the Bible.
00:32:38.000 It says in the Quranic scriptures that you're permitted, you're encouraged in the Islamic scriptures and instructed to wage jihad against the non-Muslims. 1.00
00:32:48.000 It's an obligation of every Allah-fearing Muslim. 1.00
00:32:53.000 And in that, you are encouraged, it's not just suggested, you are encouraged to take the non-Muslim women and children, the kufar, as sex slaves. 1.00
00:33:03.000 And so there's no coincidences here.
00:33:06.000 It's complete and utter ignorance on behalf of not just the British establishment, but any establishment that hasn't bothered to read this book to say that this is a misinterpretation.
00:33:18.000 It's completely illogical.
00:33:19.000 And for the argument that Muslims shouldn't or believe that they shouldn't follow these scriptures, again, is ridiculous.
00:33:26.000 Because I think from one Christian to another, I think the notion that you and I shouldn't follow the New Testament and, you know, Christ's Sermon on the Mount and all the instructions that were given to love thy neighbour and, you know, to say that, oh, he didn't mean that.
00:33:39.000 Like, he didn't actually mean to take that literally.
00:33:41.000 Like, don't love your neighbour.
00:33:43.000 I hate them because Christ was just messing around.
00:33:45.000 And to say that Allah instructing people to take the non-Muslims, to kill the kufar where you find them and take their women and children as sex slaves. 0.99
00:33:53.000 And to say that, no, no, no, you've got that wrong.
00:33:56.000 That is what they're doing, but it's not because of those scriptures is not just irresponsible.
00:34:02.000 It's completely ignorant.
00:34:04.000 But hey, I'm on trial for pointing this out.
00:34:08.000 And you're not exaggerating.
00:34:09.000 You're literally on trial.
00:34:11.000 You were abducted by the police and driven to Belfast to face criminals.
00:34:15.000 You could go to prison.
00:34:16.000 Yeah, it's almost a certainty that I would.
00:34:18.000 I mean, I'm facing two trials at the moment.
00:34:21.000 The first is for exposing a gang of Muslim rapists. 1.00
00:34:26.000 A young child in Ramsgate in Kent went into a pizza shop, a British child. 0.99
00:34:31.000 She was lost.
00:34:32.000 She asked for directions.
00:34:33.000 Instead of giving her directions, four Muslim migrant men took her to a flat upstairs and they gang raped her four times each.
00:34:40.000 They are all serving 14 year sentences for their heinous crime.
00:34:45.000 And you'd think that the fact that I expose these men would not be such a bad thing.
00:34:53.000 No, you need a medal.
00:34:55.000 Well, thank you.
00:34:56.000 As opposed to a medal, Kent Police have, in fact, given me a charge sheet which contains four separate charges of harassment, religiously aggravated harassment of the poor Muslim rapists who are actually currently serving 14 years.
00:35:15.000 And they're named on these charge sheets.
00:35:18.000 You couldn't make it up.
00:35:21.000 I'm looking at the officers when they've given me the charge sheet and they're reading out the names of the poor victims that Jada Franson, big scary Jada Franson, has upset and harassed and alarmed and caused distress to.
00:35:34.000 And they are the very same men that took a 16-year-old child and gang raped her four times each.
00:35:41.000 Like the establishment's gone mad.
00:35:43.000 The second trial is probably, I don't know, more ludicrous, who knows?
00:35:48.000 The second trial is probably more of a landmark case in that it pretty much constitutes blasphemy law here in the UK, which is a new thing, but Britain's now Sharia compliant. 0.80
00:36:03.000 So I'm looking at, with the two together, up to four years in prison.
00:36:09.000 And you're almost definitely going to get at least some time.
00:36:12.000 Yeah, I mean, they've basically said that, well, I mean, I have legal counsel, and I've entered a not guilty plea on all four charges relating to the grooming gang, the rapist gang.
00:36:26.000 And my first appearance for the other trial is on the 14th of December in Belfast.
00:36:30.000 But interestingly, for that one, the speech that I gave was on the 6th of August.
00:36:35.000 It was at an anti-terror rally, which was all-encompassing.
00:36:39.000 I think we discussed all different sects of terrorism.
00:36:42.000 There aren't a lot of Sikh or Hindu or Jewish terrorists here in Britain, or Christian for that matter.
00:36:49.000 So they didn't really get a shout-out, but we did mention the Islamic terrorism and, of course, the Republican terrorism, which is a pretty big issue over in Northern Ireland.
00:36:59.000 They both got to mention.
00:37:02.000 But the police, so they, after I gave the speech, I went home and some three or four months later, the police came.
00:37:09.000 They picked me up in London.
00:37:11.000 They drove me for six hours to Liverpool, put me on a ferry overnight for eight hours, guarded by four PSNI officers, took me to Belfast, had me in custody for 24 hours, interrogated me for four hours, and then charged me with what they described upon my arrest as giving an anti-Islamic speech.
00:37:33.000 So here we have it, folks.
00:37:35.000 If you criticise Islam in the UK, the Sharia-compliant UK, you're looking at jail time. 0.99
00:37:42.000 I'm stunned.
00:37:43.000 I mean, you've just proven that to be a rumored racist in Britain is worse than being a real child rapist.
00:37:52.000 Yes, yeah.
00:37:53.000 And it is, I mean, you've hit the nail on the head because they are rumours.
00:37:57.000 I mean, we try to, there's no point really putting these points across to the left because you're literally just wasting your time.
00:38:06.000 You cannot reason with idiocy.
00:38:09.000 And these people aren't well.
00:38:10.000 I mean, you just can't talk any sense into them.
00:38:13.000 But when anyone's going to grasp that Islam's not a race, I will be celebrating that day. 1.00
00:38:20.000 But, you know, being called a race, it's just a silencing technique.
00:38:23.000 And it worked in Rotherham when all the kids got groomed.
00:38:27.000 It worked in Telford, where the kids got groomed.
00:38:29.000 It worked in Rochdale, Oxford.
00:38:32.000 And it's unfortunately for the state, it's not working with me.
00:38:39.000 And so they're having to try and find another way to silence me.
00:38:43.000 And the best they've come up with so far are those five charges.
00:38:49.000 And we'll see.
00:38:51.000 We'll see how far they get.
00:38:52.000 Well, I see it as very relevant to American politics because you guys are the canary in the coal mine.
00:38:57.000 And we don't have a big Muslim population here, but it's Growing, and we don't have a big refugee problem here, but it's starting. 0.88
00:39:04.000 And if this is what happens when your Muslim population gets high, I'm not looking forward to it. 1.00
00:39:10.000 No, and you shouldn't be.
00:39:11.000 I mean, it's the problem is that what you have to look at here, the way I look at this, is if you want to establish who has control over your country, just consider who you can't criticise.
00:39:26.000 The fact that I can't criticise an ideology that I've studied, I'm not ignorant.
00:39:33.000 You know, people have their own preconceived ideas of who I am and what I'm about.
00:39:39.000 And if anybody's genuinely interested and wants to take the time, they could either research or actually ask me themselves.
00:39:45.000 But, you know, I've studied these scriptures.
00:39:49.000 I'm not ignorant to what they say.
00:39:51.000 Just like I've studied the Bible, because I think as a Christian, you have to know the scriptures.
00:39:56.000 You can't just align yourself to an ideology.
00:39:59.000 Well, you'd think not.
00:40:00.000 But it seems that that is what a huge amount of the population have done, is that they've, whether they're Muslim or not, because there's a huge, a vast majority, I believe, of Muslims in this country are completely ignorant to what that book says. 0.92
00:40:12.000 If they knew, I think if they are arguing that they're law-abiding, peaceful people, and if they actually knew what was being incited in that book, then I'd expect them to turn away from it.
00:40:22.000 But even the general population who don't align themselves as Muslims, but they say that we stand with Islam and we're with the Muslims and let's hug a Muslim, we had all of that nonsense when kids were getting scraped off the wall in Manchester, the big campaign, let's light a candle and hug a Muslim on the tube.
00:40:38.000 I don't know how that's going to help, but anyway, we gave it a good go.
00:40:42.000 But it's this creeping, it's not even creeping anymore, it's picked up a huge amount of pace, but this creeping Sharia and Islamification is extremely dangerous to us all. 1.00
00:40:52.000 And it's widespread.
00:40:55.000 So I sincerely hope that America doesn't go the same way as Britain.
00:41:02.000 But equally, I'd like to think that there's some hope for Britain in that America have got this great leader now and he's doing so much for you guys.
00:41:13.000 I know he's got to concentrate on you guys at home.
00:41:16.000 But just don't forget us because we are really, really in big trouble.
00:41:21.000 Well, we won't forget Britain and we won't forget you.
00:41:24.000 Let's follow this trial and keep checking in with you because the idea that someone can be arrested for making a speech is anti-Western.
00:41:32.000 It's not what we started here.
00:41:35.000 That's right.
00:41:36.000 This is the point that I made is that my grandfather came to this country from Holland.
00:41:41.000 In fact, Holland was occupied by the Nazis.
00:41:44.000 He came here and he fought the Nazis and he fought them along with the millions of other men and women that fought, bled and died for this country so that I have the right to express my opinion.
00:41:54.000 And it is just an opinion.
00:41:55.000 In fact, what I expressed on the day was my opinion with regards to Islam in Northern Ireland and the effect that I expect it would have based on my experience in London.
00:42:06.000 And fact, I quoted what it says in the Quran.
00:42:11.000 If I'm not free to do that, then I fear the sacrifice of millions has been in vain.
00:42:18.000 And that's not something that I'm prepared to take lightly.
00:42:22.000 Scary stuff.
00:42:24.000 Thank you very much for coming on the show and we'd love to have you back as soon as possible.
00:42:28.000 It's been an absolute pleasure, Gavin.
00:42:30.000 Thank you very much.
00:42:31.000 Thanks.
00:42:31.000 Bye.
00:42:32.000 Bye-bye.
00:42:33.000 Bye-bye.
00:42:38.000 Oh, look at this.
00:42:39.000 Pink is using her kids as a virtue signaling tool saying she's raising them gender-free. 1.00
00:42:46.000 These weirdos, these liberals have no problem using their own children as some sort of political tool.