Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - Get Off My Lawn #46 | Christmas Terror

00:00:20.000 Live from New York, it's Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McInnes.

00:00:27.000 It's called the only my side.

00:00:28.000 I think it'll be a situation, gonna make it right.

00:00:31.000 In the shadow of the darkness, I stand in the light.

00:00:33.000 It's a...

00:00:33.000 It's here.

00:00:35.000 Ah, that's Tim Armstrong from Rancid.

00:00:39.000 Fall Back Down, a song about divorcing his wife, Brodie Dale.

00:00:44.000 She ended up being Josh Homey's wife.

00:00:46.000 Josh Homey was the guy we were talking about yesterday who kicked that camera.

00:00:50.000 Oh, he kicked the camera.

00:00:52.000 Apologize.

00:00:53.000 Let's write about it.

00:00:54.000 Let's talk about women. 0.98

00:00:55.000 He kicked a woman. 0.98

00:00:57.000 God, I hate all this documentation. 0.56

00:01:01.000 I hate that we're being monitored all the time.

00:01:04.000 I hate that Netflix is joking about the 53 people who watch this show, laughing at our habits, shoving them back in our face.

00:01:12.000 I hate that my wife was talking about those flying things, you know, where you go into a cylindrical booth with a fan and it lifts you off the ground.

00:01:22.000 And she said, I might want to go there on my birthday.

00:01:24.000 She gets an ad on Instagram for the one nearest us.

00:01:27.000 She never said the name of the place.

00:01:29.000 She also was talking about face oil the other day.

00:01:32.000 She says, I promised me, I never Googled it.

00:01:34.000 And then she showed me an ad for face oil.

00:01:37.000 That's it there.

00:01:39.000 So I've been saying cat food, cat food, cat food for the past three days because there was a couple who did that and they got cat food ads.

00:01:45.000 And I hate cats.

00:01:46.000 I've never said the word cat food before.

00:01:48.000 So I'll keep you posted on that.

00:01:50.000 But yeah, this concept of being monitored and everything has to be documented and everything has to be apologized for at a rock show where you got your camera in.

00:01:58.000 It's a rock show.

00:01:59.000 When I was a kid, we would go to mosh pits and there'd be Nazi skinheads punching us and we'd go, ow, that hurt and be bleeding.

00:02:06.000 But it was just something you did.

00:02:07.000 The mosh pit itself was a bunch of fists.

00:02:10.000 And now we have women coming in going, I can't do my photography properly. 1.00

00:02:15.000 But check out Josh's apology.

00:02:18.000 He apologized to his mother, among other people, for all this.

00:02:22.000 And so I apologize also to my bandmates and my mom and my dad, my wife, my brother, and my kids.

00:02:34.000 All right, that's enough.

00:02:35.000 He goes, I got to work out some stuff here.

00:02:37.000 I don't know.

00:02:38.000 If you're getting sued for $3 million and an apology will take it down to $500,000, would you compromise yourself for $2.5 million?

00:02:45.000 It depends.

00:02:46.000 It depends on what the compromise is.

00:02:48.000 If I was told I had to lie and say my entire trip to the right, my entire problem with Islam was a lie and I'm secretly liberal and I love Islam and I don't mean anything I say for the past 10 years, no.

00:03:02.000 No money on earth.

00:03:02.000 Sorry.

00:03:03.000 That would make my wife so mad too. 1.00

00:03:06.000 Sorry, I emptied our fortune because I refuse to apologize.

00:03:12.000 And I do refuse to apologize for creating the modern world.

00:03:15.000 Hence, the Proud Boy's motto.

00:03:19.000 So also in the gossip pages, before we get started today, the post, of course, is Christmas Terror.

00:03:26.000 A dollar short, a day late.

00:03:28.000 ISIS-inspired Bombers Subway Dud chose spot because of Yule protesters.

00:03:32.000 Oh, we know dinosaur media.

00:03:34.000 I love the New York Post, but it's like reading history 24 hours late every day.

00:03:40.000 Artie Lang, you know him?

00:03:42.000 Fat guy was with Howard Stern until he pointed out Howard Stern looks exactly like a pelican.

00:03:48.000 Then he coincidentally lost his job after that. 0.99

00:03:51.000 Big drug addict, lost his septum with cocaine. 0.87

00:03:55.000 He burnt through it. 0.96

00:03:57.000 And heroin addict, always has blood coming out of his nose.

00:04:00.000 You know the way little kids always have snot coming out of their nose?

00:04:02.000 He always has blood.

00:04:03.000 Anyway, he does a great show with Anthony Coomia, Artie and Anthony.

00:04:08.000 And Anthony Coomia is the shock jock, Opian Anthony.

00:04:11.000 Love those guys.

00:04:11.000 I used to work there.

00:04:12.000 Love their show.

00:04:15.000 But we saw Artie Quitter this weekend after his tweet together with Anthony Coomia and the decision for him to address his health issues require him not having to worry about being at the AA show this week.

00:04:23.000 Addressing his health issues is priority number one.

00:04:26.000 So if he's still doing heroin and he's quitting heroin, I heard it feels like third-degree burns on your entire body.

00:04:33.000 And I've done heroin a few times.

00:04:35.000 Wonderful drug.

00:04:36.000 But the cons outweigh the pros.

00:04:39.000 You could OD at any moment.

00:04:41.000 You can get there with beer and pot and all kinds of other drugs.

00:04:45.000 You get damn close.

00:04:46.000 I say, never, of course, there. 0.95

00:04:48.000 It's a splendid euphoria.

00:04:50.000 You get pretty close.

00:04:51.000 It's like, you know, there's a 9 with AIDS and a 7.9 without AIDS. 0.99

00:04:57.000 Who are you going to have sex with without a condom? 0.98

00:04:59.000 Go with the 7.9. 0.99

00:05:00.000 You'll live.

00:05:03.000 I also wanted to talk about this Sarah Sanders.

00:05:07.000 It's been a crazy week for the fake news.

00:05:11.000 They've had, I think I counted five major blunders this week with saying they have proof that KT McFarlane colluded with the Russians to having to apologize for anonymous sources that were totally invalid.

00:05:27.000 They just grab it and run.

00:05:29.000 Like the Mike Flynn thing with Joy Behar going, all right, we got it.

00:05:33.000 Let's go.

00:05:34.000 We're finally done.

00:05:35.000 By the way, I think this week the good news is they screwed up so many times that they've given up on Russia and now they're just focusing on sexual harassment, which even that is turning out to be a nothing burger.

00:05:35.000 We got Russia.

00:05:46.000 Oh, he asked a woman for her phone number.

00:05:49.000 I'm shaking in my boots. 1.00

00:05:51.000 What a serial rapist. 1.00

00:05:54.000 He's replacing Manson. 1.00

00:05:55.000 Let's impeach him.

00:05:56.000 But anyway, Levin and Tucker Carlson were talking about this.

00:05:59.000 This analogy they're now using to justify their mistakes is, we're like astronomers.

00:06:04.000 We're scientists ironing out the kinks. 1.00

00:06:07.000 This is just our Petri dish showing mold instead of acidic carcinogens.

00:06:13.000 Check out this David Frumm explaining it all to us.

00:06:16.000 Astronomers make mistakes all the time because science is a process of discovery of truth.

00:06:22.000 Astrologers never make mistakes, or at least they never own up to them, because what they are offering is a closed system of ideology and propaganda.

00:06:29.000 It's weird watching Levin on CRTV.

00:06:33.000 People just go, why don't I just watch Levin on Levin?

00:06:36.000 But there's a crucial problem with his analogy here.

00:06:39.000 This show is like a philosophy show where we go, isn't it weird?

00:06:45.000 Isn't it weird how these sort of spinster New York women with dried-up ovaries, how they're obsessed with Beyoncé, and they see her as a goddess and they depict her as the Virgin Mary and they have these pictures of her, you know, holding her baby and Kim Kardashian's baby. 1.00

00:07:01.000 They love that.

00:07:02.000 But the idea of them having children is 0% chance.

00:07:06.000 In fact, when Lauren Southern did that quiz on the street in London, same demographic, she said, would you rather have dogs or babies? 0.99

00:07:15.000 They all said dogs, all of them.

00:07:17.000 So it's just weird the way they are disgusted by the concept of them having a kid, but then they worship Beyoncé and Kim Kardashian's babies.

00:07:26.000 That's a thought.

00:07:27.000 It's not a fact.

00:07:28.000 It's a philosophical thing I've been working on up here, and I would like to work on it with you.

00:07:34.000 So that's, you could say that's an astronomer thing.

00:07:37.000 But this isn't breaking news.

00:07:40.000 You don't tune in here to find out what the name of the terrorist was.

00:07:43.000 This is more like we discussed the news.

00:07:46.000 The stories that got screwed up this week from CNN, they're not philosopher news.

00:07:50.000 That is breaking news.

00:07:52.000 Hi, thanks for tuning in to CNN.

00:07:53.000 Donald Trump had 12 Diet Cokes today, and his TV was on in the background.

00:07:58.000 Oh yeah, there's also some sort of pipe bomb with a man, a disturbed man.

00:08:03.000 I heard so many versions of that yesterday.

00:08:05.000 A disturbed man from Brooklyn had a bomb go off unexpectedly.

00:08:12.000 Yeah, workplace violence. 0.99

00:08:15.000 Okay, so the astronomer astrology thing is pathetic, but what's really pathetic is to watch these floundering buffoons yelling at Sarah Sanders. 0.99

00:08:27.000 Now, I have kids over all the time. 0.98

00:08:29.000 My four-year-old will have play dates.

00:08:31.000 I'll host birthday parties at my house for my kids.

00:08:34.000 And there's a thing when they're in trouble, like a plate gets smashed or something, and you go, what's going on here?

00:08:40.000 What happened here?

00:08:41.000 Oh, he was over there.

00:08:42.000 No, when he came in here, they were trying to grab that piece of cake.

00:08:46.000 And look, I don't want to hear snitches.

00:08:48.000 Snitches get stitches. 1.00

00:08:49.000 I just want to know how this fell.

00:08:51.000 Don't blame anyone.

00:08:54.000 And that's how these people are talking to Sarah Sanders.

00:08:57.000 Now, this is a long clip, but we'll just hop around it. 0.99

00:08:59.000 But basically anywhere we go, you're going to see petulant brats at a birthday party yelling at mom trying to cover their asses. 1.00

00:09:07.000 Thanks, Sarah. 0.98

00:09:08.000 The president reacted quite angrily over the weekend to a Washington Post reporter's tweet about crowd size that was quickly deleted.

00:09:15.000 I'm wondering if you can help explain the discrepancy between the president's reaction to incidents like this, which he calls fake news and talks quite a bit about, and his silence on actual disinformation campaigns like Russia ran during the 2016 election to deliberately.

00:09:31.000 Can you just pause it here?

00:09:32.000 You know what a real issue is?

00:09:34.000 They see themselves as one cohesive blob.

00:09:38.000 Scientists aren't like that.

00:09:39.000 Scientists go, I'm going to get that. 0.99

00:09:41.000 I'm going to sequence that genome way before that cucker. 1.00

00:09:44.000 He thinks he's hot sh ⁇ . 1.00

00:09:46.000 I'm way better than him.

00:09:47.000 They don't go, we're scientists.

00:09:49.000 You have to love us.

00:09:50.000 You have to respect all of us.

00:09:51.000 We're never wrong.

00:09:52.000 He deleted that tweet really quickly.

00:09:54.000 False information.

00:09:55.000 So both his silence on that and does he recognize the difference between these two?

00:10:00.000 Difference, look, the president's simply calling out a very durable.

00:10:05.000 Sorry, can you stop it?

00:10:06.000 Did you understand that?

00:10:07.000 Sorry, I keep interrupting, so I have to explain what I just talked over.

00:10:10.000 But he's saying, look, yeah, we made some mistakes that we deleted very quickly, but Russia, Russia was pushing fake propaganda.

00:10:20.000 Russia was lying.

00:10:21.000 Why don't you get mad at Russia and not me? 0.52

00:10:24.000 What?

00:10:26.000 They're little kids.

00:10:27.000 Okay, keep going.

00:10:28.000 And false accusation lodged against him.

00:10:32.000 There was nothing more than an individual trying to put their bias into their reporting and something that, frankly, has gotten a little bit out of control.

00:10:41.000 We've seen it time and time again over the last couple of weeks.

00:10:44.000 A number of outlets have had to retract and change and rewrite and make editor's notes to a number of different stories, some of them with major impacts, including moving markets.

00:10:55.000 This is a big problem, and we think it's something that should be taken seriously.

00:10:59.000 Jim reporters' mistakes and disinformation campaign by a foreign government.

00:11:03.000 Does he see a distinction there?

00:11:04.000 I haven't spoken with one of them because.

00:11:08.000 Jump ahead like 10 seconds.

00:11:12.000 Sometimes, and a lot of times you don't.

00:11:14.000 But there's a difference.

00:11:15.000 There's a very big...

00:11:17.000 I'm not finished.

00:11:18.000 There's a very big difference between making honest mistakes and purposefully misleading the American people.

00:11:24.000 Something that happens regularly.

00:11:26.000 You can't say I'm not done.

00:11:28.000 You cannot say, you can't say There it is.

00:11:36.000 Did you see that?

00:11:37.000 Is that a kid at a birthday party or what?

00:11:40.000 Sarah!

00:11:41.000 It was an honest mistake, Sarah.

00:11:44.000 It's an honest mistake.

00:11:44.000 This keeps going.

00:11:45.000 Purposely putting out information that you know to be false.

00:11:48.000 Or when you're taking information that hasn't been validated, that hasn't been offered any credibility, and that has been continually denied by a number of people, including people with direct knowledge of an instance.

00:11:59.000 This is something that I'm speaking about the number of reports that have taken place over the last couple of weeks.

00:12:06.000 I'm simply stating that there should be a certain level of responsibility in that process.

00:12:12.000 This was not.

00:12:12.000 Brian, I called on Jim.

00:12:14.000 So that whole press conference is them screaming and saying, why are we in trouble?

00:12:18.000 You're being too mean.

00:12:20.000 And then, of course, the left can't shut up about how she's not attractive enough for them. 1.00

00:12:24.000 They love that about Kellyanne Conway, too, who's 50. 0.64

00:12:28.000 Sorry, she's not sexy enough for you, you feminists. 1.00

00:12:32.000 Anyway, that is an example of a woman who should be in the workforce. 1.00

00:12:36.000 She's great at her job, and we appreciate you.

00:12:40.000 But I've been thinking recently about these sexual harassment cases and how a lot of them, the way these women are behaving kind of inadvertently shows that most of them shouldn't be in the workplace. 0.87

00:12:50.000 So we're going to talk to a roaming millennial about that, who the left doesn't make jokes about how ugly she is for some reason. 1.00

00:12:58.000 But before that, I want to get back to this bully thing, because this case has exploded since we talked about it yesterday.

00:13:05.000 And The Root and Vibe and other African American media is saying that the mother's racist and she's just money grabbing. 1.00

00:13:16.000 We've seen that there's these GoFundMe accounts that I think raised $57,000.

00:13:20.000 Those GoFundMe accounts are fake, by the way.

00:13:23.000 I don't think the mother was raising any money.

00:13:25.000 They have a picture of a Confederate flag from the dad that's up.

00:13:30.000 I heard stories of the dad being a nightmare. 0.99

00:13:32.000 I heard of him beating the crap out of the mom, punching her teeth in, hitting the kids regularly. 0.99

00:13:39.000 None of this has been validated. 0.95

00:13:42.000 In fact, Vibe and The Root just ran with these, oh, she said this racist tweet, and she said this on a DM, and there's no evidence that it was her.

00:13:49.000 The only thing I could find for sure is I found a tweet from the sister from last year saying he cries himself to sleep every night.

00:13:57.000 He hates how much he gets bullied.

00:13:59.000 That's the only legit thing I've seen so far.

00:14:00.000 And you're allowed to carry the Confederate flag, by the way.

00:14:04.000 It's not proof that you were a racist and your kids deserve to be bullied.

00:14:08.000 And that is sort of the problem with all this new information is we're attacking the parents and we're attacking the Confederate flag and we're saying maybe the kid's mom was racist.

00:14:17.000 The kid was bullied.

00:14:18.000 And I believe, as with almost everything, the real issue here is fatherhood.

00:14:24.000 Let's talk to Stéphane Molignieu about the patriarchy and how that relates to this case.

00:14:30.000 Stéphane, are you there, sir?

00:14:31.000 I certainly am.

00:14:32.000 How are you doing, Gavin?

00:14:33.000 I'm great.

00:14:34.000 Great.

00:14:34.000 Enjoying Christmas, getting excited, getting the jingle-tingle.

00:14:38.000 Nice.

00:14:39.000 I was talking yesterday about this Keaton Jones kid, and I'm just, I'm disturbed by it.

00:14:45.000 I'm disturbed by so many different parts.

00:14:47.000 I don't like that he says that is not okay.

00:14:49.000 That's a really derivative sort of social justice mom thing to say.

00:14:54.000 I don't like these sports stars sending him a poem.

00:14:58.000 And more importantly, I don't like that she put this up on social media.

00:15:03.000 It is a very complicated thing for me.

00:15:06.000 I have sort of a rational side and an emotional side.

00:15:08.000 And we are a balance of both.

00:15:10.000 So from the emotional side, you know, the kid is very upset.

00:15:14.000 Other kids are being mean to him.

00:15:16.000 And there is, you know, great sympathy for him.

00:15:19.000 I mean, nobody wants to see their kid go through that kind of stuff.

00:15:22.000 And nobody wants to go through that kind of stuff.

00:15:24.000 I have very little experience with bullying myself, although the small amount that I did encounter ended up with me determining to be more charming, more funny, and so on to win over people and so on.

00:15:34.000 And I think that helped.

00:15:36.000 But the challenge is, of course, nobody asks the big question of how did this all come to pass?

00:15:41.000 How did it come to pass that this kid ended up in this kind of situation?

00:15:45.000 I haven't seen any indication of a dad.

00:15:48.000 There are some indications from posts the mom has made that there's maybe a history of violence in the family.

00:15:54.000 There may have been bullying from the father.

00:15:56.000 And so I just look at the entire ecosystem of what has been going on in this family.

00:16:02.000 And I view the bullying that manifests as school totally wrong, absolutely wrong, and should be opposed and should be dealt with.

00:16:09.000 But my question is not always how do we deal with the symptoms at the moment, but what are the long-term causes of this?

00:16:16.000 If this kid grew up in a violent household, if he doesn't have access to a father or has a negative experience of a father, if the mother was bullied in the household, all of these things could very easily combine to create a kind of flashpoint for the manifestation of bullying, which again should be dealt with great sympathy for the kids, but I'm always a big one for, okay, what are all the dominoes that led to this last domino?

00:16:40.000 And that is a very tough subject for a lot of people.

00:16:42.000 Well, these sports stars and all this virtue signaling, it's just giving a man a fish.

00:16:46.000 And we need to teach a man how to fish in this case.

00:16:50.000 And, you know, I say to my boys, when you go to school, always do twice as much back as you get.

00:16:56.000 So if someone punches you, you punch them back twice as hard.

00:16:59.000 Even if it's a friend joking, if your friend goes, punch Buggy Red, then you go, BAM! 0.70

00:17:04.000 And then he goes, what the hell's your problem?

00:17:06.000 Relax, dude.

00:17:07.000 That establishes you on the hierarchical savage plane and people know not to mess with you.

00:17:14.000 So this kid obviously hasn't made it clear that you will get punched in the nose if you attack him.

00:17:18.000 And that's a father's job.

00:17:20.000 And we're discouraged from this.

00:17:21.000 In fact, my kids are told, if you see any violence, run and get a teacher.

00:17:25.000 And I said to my son, what if Sophie, my daughter's getting beat up?

00:17:28.000 And he said, we have to go get a teacher.

00:17:30.000 And I go, ah, no, don't go get a teacher.

00:17:32.000 Jump on the guy. 0.94

00:17:35.000 Well, this, of course, when I was growing up, and I went to government schools, I went to a private boarding school for a couple of years when I was six.

00:17:41.000 The idea of running to a teacher was anathema when I was growing up.

00:17:45.000 Like the idea that you're like, eh, you know, run to run to a, you're supposed to deal with it yourself as best you can.

00:17:51.000 Like if there's a huge size disparity.

00:17:53.000 And Lord knows in junior high school, I know the kids not in junior high school, but in junior high school, you know, you've got some kids who have yet to break the puberty sweat and you've got other kids who look like they need a lawnmower to shave the backs of their fingers because they've just become these huge ogre man monsters.

00:18:07.000 And so like, it's like when we played Murder Ball, it used to be called.

00:18:10.000 It's now called Dodgeball because I guess there's no truth in advertising anymore.

00:18:13.000 But you had the kids who had to hide behind the fat kids.

00:18:15.000 You had the kids who could pick up this giant ball with one hand and shoot it like a cannon.

00:18:19.000 There's a huge physical disparity.

00:18:21.000 In that situation, you can't really do it.

00:18:23.000 But at the age he is, there's probably not as big of a disparity.

00:18:26.000 He's not a small kid.

00:18:27.000 So it is, of course, the hope that you can do it through verbal attacks.

00:18:31.000 You can do it through making fun.

00:18:33.000 You can do it through jokes.

00:18:34.000 Or maybe you have to retaliate if you're being attacked in that kind of way.

00:18:38.000 Those are stopgap measures.

00:18:39.000 Again, I sort of go back to, okay, why is he in this school to begin with?

00:18:43.000 If your kid is being bullied in school, take him out of the school.

00:18:47.000 I agree.

00:18:49.000 I don't agree.

00:18:50.000 You can't take it.

00:18:50.000 Now you don't have to run.

00:18:52.000 I met this couple the other day who moved because their kid was getting bullied so much.

00:18:56.000 They could go to a different school.

00:18:57.000 And the idea of rolling up a carpet in my home because someone gave my boy a wedgie, I mean, you're going to be constantly on the lamb.

00:19:04.000 What you mean, the witness protection program?

00:19:06.000 You have to stay and fight.

00:19:08.000 I mean, obviously, if it's the worst school on earth and there's like a stabbing or something, but I don't think running is the solution.

00:19:14.000 I don't think they should take him out of school. 0.97

00:19:16.000 He's got to punch one in the nose.

00:19:19.000 Well, okay, so if it's dangerous for your kid, of course, I mean, we're not talking about a wedgie. 0.83

00:19:25.000 Like if it's dangerous to your kid, then and you and you can't solve it with the school.

00:19:29.000 You know, one of the challenges with school, I don't know, I mean, it may be different.

00:19:33.000 Maybe this is like two, get off my lawn, two old guys talking. 0.97

00:19:36.000 when I was a kid, you could solve these kinds of things with aggression.

00:19:39.000 And I remember a good friend of mine got into a conflict with another kid when we were in junior high school.

00:19:43.000 They met out back and they just had it out.

00:19:46.000 That was possible.

00:19:47.000 Now, I don't know if it's diversity.

00:19:49.000 I don't know if it's like fatherless kids.

00:19:51.000 I don't know if what's going on.

00:19:52.000 But a lot of these things can really escalate to the point where people can get hurt.

00:19:56.000 You do trigger gang stuff.

00:19:57.000 I don't know what kind of school this kid's in.

00:20:00.000 If he's in a fairly reasonable school, okay, yeah.

00:20:02.000 But if there is the potential for escalation, then there is, I think there's reason enough to take your kid out of the environment.

00:20:10.000 Again, not if it's a little thing, not if you can't deal with it, but that requires a huge amount of intervention on the part of the parents.

00:20:16.000 And that to me is that, can you go talk to the other kid's parents?

00:20:19.000 And again, having your mom go talk to the other kid's parents isn't always the very best of ideas.

00:20:24.000 That can make things pretty bad as well.

00:20:26.000 But I am concerned about if you sort of take the, we're going to pop them in the nose, whether this starts to set in motion, the kind of escalation that can be really dangerous.

00:20:35.000 I think escalation is the solution here.

00:20:37.000 Fighting solves everything.

00:20:39.000 And I hate the idea of the state getting involved.

00:20:42.000 Teach kids not to bully, they always say.

00:20:44.000 And what we're doing is we're taking away tools from children.

00:20:47.000 Life is being bullied.

00:20:49.000 Life is confrontation.

00:20:51.000 Life is attacks.

00:20:52.000 And even if, I don't care if you're working in real estate in Kentucky, there's going to be some adversarial tension there with a bully trying to take your clients.

00:21:01.000 And you have to learn how to fight physically, literally, in order to be able to do it metaphorically in the future.

00:21:08.000 Okay, let's say that that's a solution.

00:21:09.000 I guess the big problem then becomes, Gavin, who's going to teach this boy how to fight?

00:21:14.000 Is it going to be the mom?

00:21:15.000 I pretty much think not.

00:21:17.000 Other male relatives around?

00:21:18.000 Could he go to some sort of martial arts school?

00:21:21.000 I mean, what happens from here?

00:21:23.000 Because you certainly don't want to send a kid into a self-defense situation half prepared.

00:21:28.000 They really better know what the hell is going on.

00:21:31.000 And this is, again, one of the parts of the problem, the single mother phenomenon is that, you know, who is going to teach this sort of alpha male behavior?

00:21:40.000 Exactly.

00:21:41.000 And that's why this is such a big case, because it's indicative of a much bigger solution, which I believe is the death of patriarchy.

00:21:50.000 Wait, the solution is the death of the patriarchy?

00:21:52.000 No, I think what's really, what we're seeing here is a dying patriarchy in society.

00:21:57.000 And that's what led us to all of this.

00:21:59.000 I mean, bullying is nothing new, but putting it on social media so football players can literally read him a poem that Buddha wrote is.

00:22:11.000 Well, it's a funny thing, too, because I think it's a boy-girl thing to some degree.

00:22:14.000 Because I don't know, when I was a kid, if girls cried, everyone was like, oh, what can we do to help?

00:22:21.000 Oh, you're upset.

00:22:21.000 You're sad.

00:22:22.000 But if boys cried, it was like, come on, snap out of it.

00:22:25.000 Walk it off.

00:22:26.000 Oh, you know.

00:22:26.000 Spit it out.

00:22:27.000 You know, it'll regrow.

00:22:28.000 That bone's going to set.

00:22:29.000 You'll be fine.

00:22:30.000 I mean, I remember as a kid, you know, everybody does this when they're a kid.

00:22:34.000 You're playing tag.

00:22:35.000 I was playing tag in a school playground.

00:22:37.000 I was about, I don't know, eight or nine years old.

00:22:39.000 And you do this thing where you're running full tilt to get away from some kid who's chasing you.

00:22:44.000 And you turn around to check behind you, right?

00:22:46.000 Everybody does their rear view thing.

00:22:47.000 And it's like when you're driving.

00:22:48.000 You know, I can't even watch movies where people are chatting away while they're driving.

00:22:51.000 It's like, because I'm just waiting for that snack, right?

00:22:54.000 I'm running like full tilt.

00:22:54.000 So I'm doing the thing.

00:22:55.000 And I was a fast kid.

00:22:56.000 I'm still a pretty fast adult, but I was a fast kid.

00:22:59.000 And I looked around and I was like, I looked around to taunt the kid who was like not able to catch me.

00:23:03.000 Naturally, of course, I turned back and run straight into a metal fence.

00:23:07.000 And I mean, literally, it was like head explosion of blood. 0.80

00:23:11.000 I mean, it was somewhat similar to, I don't know, beheading a fat guy.

00:23:15.000 It was like that, because it was like right here, the bridge of the nose, the thinnest skin on the body.

00:23:18.000 And it was just like blood splosion.

00:23:21.000 Geiser.

00:23:22.000 And I went to the hospital and people were just like, eh, you'll be fine.

00:23:25.000 You don't even need stitches.

00:23:26.000 You'll be able to walk this off.

00:23:28.000 But, you know, one girl stubs his toes and is like, oh, so I think for the mom, it's like, well, if my kid cries, if he was a girl, that would be pretty effective. 0.77

00:23:37.000 Now, I guess she could argue that it's pretty effective given the response.

00:23:40.000 But as a guy, I think that the guy crying phenomena does not fall eventually into the same slot, so to speak, as the girl crying phenomena.

00:23:49.000 But you might need a dad around to tell you that.

00:23:51.000 You can only cry if you're looking at videos of Marines surprising their kids after being away for a year.

00:23:59.000 And that you can't do the ugly cry for that.

00:24:02.000 You just have to have that one where you just go.

00:24:05.000 Yeah, it's like the Tyr is a prisoner escaping from a Nazi high walled jail. 0.61

00:24:12.000 It doesn't buckle.

00:24:14.000 You can't get the song in the Living Years or the song The Living Years.

00:24:17.000 Maybe if you're feeling particularly tired, that can do it to you as well.

00:24:21.000 But yeah, the Datir's thing. 0.89

00:24:24.000 But it's working.

00:24:25.000 This is the amazing thing.

00:24:26.000 It's working in terms of the moms getting resources and so on. 1.00

00:24:29.000 My particular concern, not with this family, it's like, okay, what kind of plethora of crying sons is now going to avalanche over the internet because it gets so many resources and so much attention.

00:24:41.000 It's going to become the new trans kid. 1.00

00:24:43.000 Oh, great.

00:24:44.000 What have we unleashed?

00:24:46.000 Stefan, thank you very much for coming on the show.

00:24:48.000 Always enlightening.

00:24:49.000 I love to see a fellow patriarch worried about the death of the patriarchy.

00:24:53.000 Thanks, Gavin.

00:24:54.000 A great pleasure.

00:24:55.000 Cheers.

00:24:59.000 I've always thought that Japanese is something you can just guess, right?

00:25:07.000 I feel like I could just speak Japanese just by guessing.

00:25:12.000 Watch this.

00:25:13.000 Watch this.

00:25:20.000 Okay, okay, okay.

00:25:22.000 Okay, so I'm going to go to the next one.

00:25:31.000 Oh, come on, it does.

00:25:32.000 You have to concentrate.

00:25:33.000 Urukus, nurkusu, kutsutsu to.

00:25:36.000 Urukus, I don't know.

00:25:39.000 Thank you.

00:25:42.000 Thank you.

00:25:44.000 If I fall back down, you're gonna help me back up.

00:25:48.000 The workplace in New York City, especially, is an MMA cage.

00:25:52.000 It's brutal.

00:25:53.000 It's rough.

00:25:54.000 It's cutthroat.

00:25:54.000 I like it.

00:25:55.000 I like confrontation.

00:25:56.000 But there's been times when it's almost gotten physical, like fistfights over the years.

00:26:00.000 I've been an entrepreneur, started at an ad agency, a media company.

00:26:04.000 You're competing with other people all the time, they're lying about you.

00:26:08.000 I mean, it's not high school, it is MMA.

00:26:12.000 And I noticed, by the way, that the more you fight in real life, the better you do in business.

00:26:19.000 And there's also sort of a sexuality there with all these alphas.

00:26:23.000 And no, they should not be able to sexually harass anyone.

00:26:26.000 But the way these women are dealing with it by keeping it quiet for 20 years or having sex with the guy or just ignoring it, it just makes me think maybe most of these women don't even belong in the workforce at all. 1.00

00:26:41.000 Sorry, controversial thing.

00:26:42.000 And again, to be crystal clear, if someone sexually molests you or touches you in a way you don't want, go to the cops.

00:26:49.000 That's illegal.

00:26:51.000 Don't allow them to do that to you.

00:26:53.000 But I was touched by this app women have developed that helps them be more empowered at meetings. 0.92

00:27:01.000 Check out this video.

00:27:03.000 So I'm about to head into a meeting and I'm going to try out the Ally app for the first time so that I can track what I'm doing in the meeting.

00:27:12.000 So I have it opened up here.

00:27:16.000 By the way, can you just pause this?

00:27:18.000 Unless Ally is paying me and they say, can we shoot you at work when you're doing a meeting?

00:27:24.000 I'd go, what?

00:27:25.000 No, no.

00:27:26.000 And here's another thing. 1.00

00:27:27.000 Meetings are stupid. 1.00

00:27:29.000 If you really are an entrepreneur, if you really belong there, if you're really a moneymaker, you know that meetings are a waste of time. 1.00

00:27:36.000 And if you really belong in the workforce, you should hate meetings. 1.00

00:27:40.000 You should think they're stupid. 1.00

00:27:41.000 It's just where people can showboat and say, oh, I got to get my two cents in. 1.00

00:27:45.000 Real men, they're like this at meetings. 1.00

00:27:47.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:48.000 Okay, can we wrap this up here?

00:27:49.000 I think we got it.

00:27:49.000 I think we're good, right?

00:27:51.000 And you should be sitting in a meeting going, couldn't you just have emailed this to me?

00:27:54.000 Why are we going over this and having everyone give their two cents?

00:27:58.000 What is this?

00:27:59.000 Alcoholics Synonymous?

00:28:01.000 I don't want to talk to you people.

00:28:02.000 Let's get back to work.

00:28:04.000 Let's look what she's doing, though, to learn how to be more male in meetings. 1.00

00:28:08.000 I'm going to choose that I'm going to be empowered because I'm trying to speak more in this meeting.

00:28:13.000 So it looks like it's asking me how I'm going to empower myself.

00:28:16.000 So I'm just going to tap here.

00:28:20.000 I want to speak at least once in this meeting.

00:28:23.000 Starting with small goals is one of the things.

00:28:25.000 Okay, stop.

00:28:26.000 Just stop.

00:28:27.000 Look at this woman's vibe. 1.00

00:28:30.000 She is a fish out of water. 1.00

00:28:31.000 She's trying to make something happen. 0.89

00:28:33.000 She looks like she'd be a great mom.

00:28:35.000 She's got a good attitude, optimistic.

00:28:37.000 She wants to try things.

00:28:38.000 She wants to help out.

00:28:40.000 This is a perfect housewife. 1.00

00:28:42.000 And there she is stuck in a stupid meeting at some dumb job where she needs a computer to tell her that she's valid. 1.00

00:28:51.000 Go ahead. 1.00

00:28:54.000 And then after that, it gives a suggestion.

00:28:57.000 So in this case, it's saying I can use a power phrase before I make my point.

00:29:02.000 So I think the idea there is that if I start with something that I really feel strong about saying, then I can finish the rest of my thoughts without feeling as nervous.

00:29:14.000 So now I can just press to record and head into the news.

00:29:18.000 By the way, our goal is clear.

00:29:20.000 Our goal is to keep the client happy and get money and then get more gigs so we continue to do this, continue to do this so we can all make money and all have our jobs.

00:29:28.000 That's our goal.

00:29:29.000 I don't think we need to state that.

00:29:31.000 Just go get to work. 1.00

00:29:33.000 Stop having this stupid meeting. 1.00

00:29:35.000 Ugh, how embarrassing too that she said, there's a film crew outside. 1.00

00:29:39.000 We're doing an app that's making me feel empowered because I want to talk more at meetings.

00:29:44.000 Good, you talk more at meetings.

00:29:46.000 I'm going to go back to work over here.

00:29:47.000 But anyway, let's just finish it up.

00:29:48.000 So I've just come out of my meeting and now I'm looking at my summary stats from the meeting in the Ally app.

00:29:54.000 So it looks kind of like that.

00:29:56.000 It shows me how long I spoke and it looks like I spoke for four whole minutes, which I think exceeds my goal of speaking once.

00:30:04.000 And that I was really positive and honest when I spoke.

00:30:07.000 So good information to have moving forward. 0.98

00:30:10.000 No, it's totally useless information for a totally useless app for totally useless women doing totally useless jobs. 1.00

00:30:20.000 Similarly, 95% of men would be happier in the workforce. 0.98

00:30:23.000 It's a sexist thing that I believe.

00:30:26.000 It's mostly based on feels.

00:30:27.000 I'm very emotional that way.

00:30:29.000 I'm like a woman.

00:30:30.000 But there is a lot of data out there that says that women have become less happy since feminism.

00:30:34.000 And I see it with my own eyes.

00:30:37.000 Why are you trying to fit a square peg into a round hole?

00:30:40.000 Of course there are women who belong in the workforce. 1.00

00:30:42.000 Of course there are tough, ballsy women that can tell some guy who wants to molest them that he's going to jail. 1.00

00:30:47.000 There are women there who can compete with competitors and kick ass and take names and get it done. 1.00

00:30:52.000 I love working with those women. 1.00

00:30:53.000 Everyone does.

00:30:54.000 Because when you're at work, you don't care about sex and gender.

00:30:58.000 You just want to make money and get the job done.

00:31:02.000 Let's ask a lady who I guess I work with, sort of, right? 0.74

00:31:06.000 She's a guest on my show.

00:31:07.000 And she's attractive and not particularly confrontational.

00:31:12.000 But let's ask her where she feels on this theory.

00:31:15.000 Roaming, are you there?

00:31:17.000 I'm here.

00:31:18.000 Wonderful.

00:31:19.000 Thanks for coming on the show.

00:31:20.000 Now, I have to talk to a woman about this because it's very controversial, these feelings I've been having.

00:31:26.000 But it's so hard to even say this because it sounds like you're saying women can't go to work because they'll get raped because they wore a short skirt and they're asking for it and blah, blah, blah.

00:31:37.000 And there's no blame on the culprit. 0.78

00:31:39.000 Of course, sex harassment is bad.

00:31:41.000 But part of me can't help but look at this and go, isn't this evidence that women don't prosper, don't belong in the workforce? 0.63

00:31:50.000 I think there's probably a lot of an argument to be made that certain fields are not friendly to women. 0.96

00:31:55.000 No, and I think we even learned this earlier years ago when all of these cases of sexual harassment in the military came out.

00:32:03.000 Yes, that's a good thing.

00:32:03.000 Right.

00:32:05.000 This isn't a new story.

00:32:06.000 And I think when we look at a lot of these fields, I mean, it's often, like you said, there's no excuse for it.

00:32:11.000 But at the same time, I think women need to make smart choices of the places they choose to work and the people they choose to surround themselves with. 0.79

00:32:18.000 I mean, places like Hollywood aren't exactly the, oh yeah, I'm sure they care a lot about, you know, respecting women and consent.

00:32:24.000 Sorry, that's just not how it is.

00:32:26.000 Well, you're hot, and I'm working with you right now.

00:32:29.000 And There's bad thoughts going on in the back, but I can control them.

00:32:33.000 But some guys can't.

00:32:35.000 And it's insane to say, all right, well, then no pretty girls at work. 1.00

00:32:39.000 That's obviously draconian.

00:32:40.000 That's Stalinist Russia. 0.57

00:32:42.000 But I don't know, the way some of these women deal with it, I just think, what are you doing here? 1.00

00:32:46.000 Like, the whole concept of having sex with someone you don't want to, like, lying underneath him, and just as he has sex with you, you're just sort of there going, oh, well, at least my career will help. 0.95

00:32:58.000 That's insane.

00:33:00.000 And again, I don't think anyone's at fault but the person perpetrating the harassment or the abuse.

00:33:00.000 Right.

00:33:06.000 But I think in a lot of ways, women who, you know, we hear these stories from, I have to wonder, why didn't you speak out?

00:33:12.000 And, you know, you hear stories, oh, but I tried and they didn't listen.

00:33:12.000 Why didn't you say something?

00:33:15.000 Say it louder.

00:33:16.000 Find a different job.

00:33:16.000 Quit.

00:33:18.000 Get evidence.

00:33:18.000 Record.

00:33:19.000 Just something.

00:33:19.000 I don't know.

00:33:20.000 I refuse to believe that your only option, unless, of course, they were applying force.

00:33:24.000 But if we're just talking about coercion, like, you know, I refuse to believe that just, you know, you just had to sit there and take it was your only option.

00:33:31.000 No, like do something.

00:33:33.000 That's it.

00:33:34.000 You've helped me crack it.

00:33:36.000 Like Barbara Corcoran, Maggie Thatcher.

00:33:39.000 There's millions upon millions of women who thrive in the workplace and should be there. 1.00

00:33:43.000 Corcoran revolutionized real estate in New York City.

00:33:46.000 She deserves every penny she has.

00:33:48.000 But I would remember when I used to box, I would go to meetings and I would do better.

00:33:53.000 I ran an ad agency at the time and I would do better because so much of business is conflict and you're competing with other bidders and you're trying to seduce clients and stuff and they might get in there.

00:34:04.000 And you get a lot of, not physical fights, but you get a lot of sort of chest puffing.

00:34:09.000 And you have to go, f ⁇ you to that guy.

00:34:12.000 And women aren't naturally confrontational. 1.00

00:34:15.000 So they tend to acquiesce. 0.99

00:34:16.000 And that can be really bad when you're dealing with a sexual predator. 0.98

00:34:20.000 Absolutely.

00:34:21.000 I think a lot of women have issues with, I guess, standing up for themselves or being more confrontational. 1.00

00:34:27.000 And that's something we see.

00:34:28.000 I think a lot of the reason why women aren't as represented in, you know, Fortune 500 companies as CEOs and stuff like that, because that is a lot of what's in business. 1.00

00:34:36.000 But I think, you know, the fact that women kind of are naturally like that and we're trying to have to bend over backwards as a society to facilitate people being like that, but we still want to be able to give them a fair shot. 0.89

00:34:49.000 Like, no, I think if you're going to be in the workforce, you need to be able to, I guess, stand up for yourself and be tough and not let people walk all over you, whether it's a jerk boss who's overstepping the line. 0.63

00:35:00.000 You need to tell him to F off or just speaking up for yourself in meetings.

00:35:03.000 But if that's not you, if you're not a confrontational person, I don't think it can be nurtured.

00:35:09.000 I think you should just go, oh, well, I'm a stay-at-home mom.

00:35:12.000 I'd be better off there.

00:35:13.000 I'd be happier there.

00:35:14.000 Like that app video that I showed before this interview.

00:35:18.000 Just look at her demeanor.

00:35:20.000 The way she's sort of like, okay, well, here I'm doing a meeting and it says I should say something empowering.

00:35:25.000 She sounds like me if I was joining the black Israelites and I should say, okay, I should talk about black power. 0.96

00:35:31.000 I should put my fist in the air. 0.80

00:35:33.000 Like it's someone learning how to do something they're not.

00:35:36.000 Right.

00:35:37.000 I think we have a case here of certain people just not being suited to certain jobs.

00:35:41.000 And usually that would be fine.

00:35:42.000 But because of, you know, the PC status quo, oh, have to have at least this many women and gays. 1.00

00:35:47.000 We feel like we have to kind of shove people into these roles that they may not be suited for, A and B, may not even want to go in.

00:35:53.000 So someone like that who's soft-spoken, doesn't want to insert herself into any conflict, whatever.

00:35:58.000 I mean, you can be a stay-at-home mom or even find another job, whatever it be, be a teacher.

00:36:02.000 You don't have to be in the cutthroat world of business to feel like you're making a difference. 0.92

00:36:06.000 Yeah, it's like fat guys.

00:36:08.000 They rarely are backup dancers in music videos. 0.99

00:36:11.000 You can get them an app, you can teach them the moves, but they'd look silly up there.

00:36:16.000 And we should stop pretending that they belong in a Jenna Jackson video. 0.98

00:36:20.000 They're short, fat, bald, white guys, like George Costanza, shouldn't be there in little tights dancing around. 0.97

00:36:26.000 And if that means that there's less women in the workforce, ooh, I'm scared. 0.97

00:36:31.000 Right, and I think women who are trying to force all these initiatives, I think they have to realize they're not making it more appealing to hire women, right? 0.86

00:36:38.000 To think like, oh, I have to give, I have to remind Janet or whoever it is.

00:36:42.000 She can speak.

00:36:43.000 Now, everyone be quiet.

00:36:44.000 We have to remind her, make sure she feels safe.

00:36:46.000 Like, no one's going to want to hire women if they think we're all babies like that. 1.00

00:36:50.000 True. 0.73

00:36:50.000 And we got to wrap it up here shortly, but this whole concept of sex and making, like, I have a friend who was writing for TV and the director hit on her and she said, not interested. 0.73

00:37:03.000 And then he fired her. 0.96

00:37:04.000 And I said, well, I want to go close his throat. 1.00

00:37:06.000 Let me go stab him. 1.00

00:37:08.000 And she goes, no, I don't want the trouble. 0.99

00:37:10.000 I'll be banished forever.

00:37:12.000 And I go, look, we had 620,000 men die in the Civil War.

00:37:16.000 You can't change your career.

00:37:18.000 Or with Louis C.K., I saw all these feminists say, you know, I was told to delete a tweet before an interview on a comedy gig because it might offend Louis C.K. And you're like, you can't even tweet? 1.00

00:37:29.000 Like, you can't even have a rude tweet.

00:37:32.000 You're not part of this.

00:37:33.000 There's a fighting world. 1.00

00:37:34.000 If some guy grabbed my ass and said, let me touch your dick or you're fired, I'd go, well, then I'm fired and we're fighting. 1.00

00:37:44.000 Like, I wouldn't stand for it. 1.00

00:37:45.000 Imagine you just like going up to some fat CEO and just, oh, well, it's insane. 0.99

00:37:54.000 It's prostitution. 1.00

00:37:56.000 And it's, again, it's awful that this is even happening, but at the same time, I don't think the right answer is to encourage women to be complacent, right?

00:37:56.000 Right.

00:38:03.000 It's like, oh, it's awful that it happened.

00:38:05.000 There was nothing you could have done but sit there and take it.

00:38:08.000 Like, no, fight back.

00:38:09.000 Yeah.

00:38:09.000 Absolutely.

00:38:10.000 Call the cops, punch them in the face. 1.00

00:38:12.000 Don't lie underneath them and don't keep it secret. 1.00

00:38:15.000 Obviously.

00:38:16.000 No, you keep it secret for like 20 years and then you come out.

00:38:19.000 That's what you do.

00:38:20.000 That's what they do.

00:38:21.000 And put it in a social media post where we can all guess what happened.

00:38:26.000 Roming, thanks for coming on the show and please don't report me to HR.

00:38:30.000 For sure.

00:38:30.000 Thanks for having me.

00:38:31.000 Bye.

00:38:34.000 I did. 0.98

00:38:34.000 It's fallin'down, you're the hell of a mess of you. 0.98

00:38:38.000 Look at this.

00:38:39.000 This is a wonderful example of the government, what they do with your money.

00:38:43.000 You know, they say if you can't do, teach.

00:38:45.000 Well, if you can't, business, government.

00:38:48.000 And watching the free market in the government is just a beautiful example of what they do with your money.

00:38:54.000 And these liberals keep saying, we need more redistribution.

00:38:57.000 We need higher taxes.

00:38:58.000 We need more regulation.

00:39:00.000 Okay, let's see what they do with my money.

00:39:02.000 This is an important press conference.

00:39:04.000 They need an interpreter.

00:39:06.000 Let's see who the government hires to interpret.

00:39:10.000 Stretching.

00:39:11.000 Obviously, you got to stretch out your hands.

00:39:14.000 Shake it out.

00:39:14.000 Shake it out, Vera.

00:39:15.000 We've taken an arrest in the Seminole Heights murders.

00:39:18.000 Okay.

00:39:21.000 Our detectives are currently working on the charging documents.

00:39:25.000 We will be charging.

00:39:26.000 Did you see that?

00:39:28.000 Watch her hands. 0.83

00:39:31.000 She just keeps repeating the same ones.

00:39:35.000 Four counts.

00:39:36.000 Okay.

00:39:36.000 A lot of them were invented signs, and I wasn't able to understand what she was saying.

00:39:43.000 Oh, my God.

00:39:45.000 The mother of one of the victims.

00:39:46.000 I'm sorry to laugh.

00:39:47.000 There.

00:39:48.000 And the interpreter was signing in a way that... 0.75

00:39:57.000 That's a silly character coming up with a bizarre idea that's not remotely true. 0.61

00:40:03.000 In the government, that's perfectly normal. 0.86

00:40:05.000 Yeah, we allowed someone to sign language who figured they could just guess and go like this and that for a rest. 1.00

00:40:12.000 Yeah, you can't make up sign language, you morons. 1.00

00:40:17.000 You can't guess Japanese. 1.00

00:40:20.000 Let's trust in ourselves again, okay?

00:40:23.000 Let's stop trusting the state.

00:40:25.000 Let's stop trusting Netflix.

00:40:27.000 Let's stop letting these phones run our lives.

00:40:30.000 We're better at running our lives than anyone else.

Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - December 13, 2017

Get Off My Lawn #46 | Christmas Terror

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