Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - December 20, 2017


Get Off My Lawn #50 | Hanukkah Horror


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Dave Chappelle is joined by the lovely Tiana loveline Tania Lowe ( ) to talk about Christmas, feminism, and a bunch of other stuff. Dave also gets into a celebrity beef with Tim Heidecker.

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00:01:03.000 That's the kinks. 1.00
00:01:05.000 I think that's the greatest Christmas song of all time.
00:01:07.000 It's one of the greatest songs of all time.
00:01:10.000 Father Christmas, give me some money.
00:01:14.000 About being a poor British kid from the projects and wanting things like a machine gun for Christmas and money.
00:01:23.000 People were poor in Britain.
00:01:25.000 You know why?
00:01:27.000 Because it was a socialist country before Maggie Thatcher came along and liberated it and made everyone free and created a middle class by privatizing everything. 0.83
00:01:38.000 And they hate her.
00:01:39.000 They all hate her.
00:01:40.000 You know, going to Britain, going to Scotland, you just sit in these giant homes with stone walls this thick, these beautiful homes, and you hear upper middle class people bitch about Thatcher and how horrible she was.
00:01:52.000 And you think, have you looked around?
00:01:55.000 How about a thank you?
00:01:57.000 Reagan was the same, and now Trump is the same.
00:02:01.000 Got a fun show for you today.
00:02:02.000 We have the delectable Tiana Lowe.
00:02:05.000 We'll be talking about girly stuff with her.
00:02:07.000 You know how it is with chicks. 1.00
00:02:09.000 They love to gossip.
00:02:11.000 And we'll talk to Joel Valdez, that college conservative who was literally attacked, physically attacked, by a professor at his school, an anti-fuck communist professor.
00:02:24.000 And the school seems to be choosing the professor's side of things, hoping to expel the conservatives because that's what school is now.
00:02:30.000 Purely leftist indoctrination camps.
00:02:32.000 It's re-education camps is what it is.
00:02:35.000 And I'm going to talk to a gay dude who doesn't call himself gay because he discovered God.
00:02:42.000 I find that very unusual.
00:02:44.000 I have a closeted gay in my family who's dying now.
00:02:49.000 And I'm just thoroughly confused by the whole concept of you overcoming your own sexuality.
00:02:57.000 So we'll talk to him about that, and we'll try to figure it out.
00:03:00.000 But before we get started, let's look at the paper.
00:03:03.000 Hanukkah Horror.
00:03:05.000 Horrific story about a dead mom and three dead kids from a menorah.
00:03:10.000 They use, if you're really traditional with the Jewish customs, you use olive oil and a cotton wick in these candles.
00:03:18.000 So if that falls, incredibly dangerous to be traditional in that situation.
00:03:27.000 We've got the Amtrak problem.
00:03:29.000 But you know, I've often talked on this show about how Demi Lovato is one of the most attractive women in the world.
00:03:36.000 Well, the Lord is testing all of us today with a picture in the New York Post.
00:03:42.000 This picture here.
00:03:43.000 Can you pull that up?
00:03:44.000 Make that full screen, Dave.
00:03:46.000 What the hell is going on here?
00:03:50.000 Denim garters with a weird fat denim cumberbund and a lingerie bathing suit underneath?
00:03:59.000 Is she the goddess of jeans? 1.00
00:04:01.000 What is going on with that picture?
00:04:03.000 She's like a siren at Walmart pulling the sailors off the ship into the rocks. 1.00
00:04:09.000 I don't understand what's going on, but I still love her.
00:04:13.000 But before we get started with anything, I had a fun fight, a celebrity battle last night with Eric Warheim.
00:04:18.000 No, Tim Heidecker of Tim and Eric fame.
00:04:21.000 Now, Tim Heidecker played me in a film called The Comedy, which I don't know why they didn't ask me to play that.
00:04:30.000 I heard that if Tim had to shoot Tim and Eric, they were going to have me replace him.
00:04:34.000 But I would think it would make more sense to have the guy in the movie.
00:04:38.000 But I don't know.
00:04:40.000 I don't like filming movies.
00:04:42.000 It's really tedious.
00:04:44.000 It's one hour of work for 10 hours of sitting on your ass.
00:04:46.000 So I guess I'm lucky I wasn't forced to do it.
00:04:50.000 Do you have that clip of him as me?
00:04:51.000 Yeah, there we go.
00:04:53.000 Go full screen.
00:04:55.000 Where are you from?
00:04:56.000 I'm in Williamsburg, you know?
00:04:58.000 So, represent.
00:05:01.000 Represent what?
00:05:02.000 What?
00:05:03.000 I'm representing Williamsburg, bro.
00:05:05.000 You gotta respect where I come from, because I respect where you come from.
00:05:09.000 Come on.
00:05:10.000 You know where we come from, bro?
00:05:12.000 We come from the hood.
00:05:14.000 That movie, by the way, the script is about four pages.
00:05:17.000 It just says, well, fool around in a church.
00:05:20.000 Talk at a bar.
00:05:22.000 Do a southern accent with your girlfriend here. 0.99
00:05:25.000 In fact, I think it even says less than that.
00:05:27.000 It just says a series of locations.
00:05:29.000 Not a great movie.
00:05:30.000 I don't recommend it.
00:05:31.000 But so Eric's beef is my beef with a Christmas story live.
00:05:36.000 He has that typical LA attitude of, why would you care?
00:05:39.000 Why do you care that they didn't go far-ra-rah rah-rah? 0.58
00:05:42.000 And it's kind of hard to explain to people who don't have kids.
00:05:45.000 I didn't think he has kids, but apparently he does.
00:05:46.000 He talks like most LA comedians who don't.
00:05:51.000 You keep chipping away at traditional imagery and trying to reinvent the wheel.
00:05:57.000 And people go, you got a problem with the black Santa?
00:06:00.000 And you go, no, not really, but I have a problem that you had a problem with the original Santa.
00:06:06.000 And when it becomes a pattern, well, now I'm getting annoyed.
00:06:10.000 So I don't really, it's not like I need the Chinese kids to just put up the tweets as I'm talking, Dave.
00:06:16.000 It's not that I'm mad that the Chinese kids in the show didn't go far-rah-rah rah rah. 1.00
00:06:22.000 But when girls are being beaten up by a bully because they're wimps, when the Santa is black, when the Chinese Restaurant is all about Judaism when the Jewish lady says Jews are better in the movie. 0.83
00:06:38.000 And then the girls are training to beat up a bully. 0.96
00:06:41.000 Families are under attack, dude.
00:06:43.000 And it's all over the place.
00:06:45.000 The honeymooners are black now. 0.98
00:06:47.000 We've got Wolverine is a little girl now.
00:06:51.000 Luke Skywalker is now a chick. 0.96
00:06:53.000 The Top Jedi is a chick, a little Asian girl. 0.99
00:06:56.000 Spider-Man, I believe, is a black gay dude from Queens now.
00:07:00.000 We have Rocky, Rocky Balboa is a black dude.
00:07:05.000 And it keeps going.
00:07:06.000 Like, okay, that's enough of the tweets.
00:07:08.000 I went to see Spider-Man, the new Spider-Man homecoming with my kids.
00:07:12.000 And I don't push politics on my kids.
00:07:14.000 It's like sex.
00:07:15.000 It's something I want them to find out as late as possible.
00:07:18.000 And, you know, even my kids watch it and they go, why did they have to make it all about other stuff and not Spider-Man?
00:07:24.000 They didn't really articulate it well.
00:07:25.000 My kids are young.
00:07:26.000 But it was all like at one point, they're going to the Washington Monument and the black girl says, I don't want to go in there because it was built by slaves. 0.94
00:07:34.000 Like this is a kids movie.
00:07:36.000 It's Spider-Man.
00:07:37.000 And you're talking about slavery.
00:07:39.000 And of course, the love interest is a black woman and the vulture, Michael Keaton, is in an interracial marriage.
00:07:46.000 It's like, I'm in an interracial marriage.
00:07:48.000 I obviously don't have a problem with them.
00:07:50.000 But when you keep pushing it, you start to sort of go, what's your problem with the original?
00:07:55.000 Like, why was Hamilton so popular?
00:07:58.000 Why do you have a problem looking at white guys, white founding fathers?
00:08:03.000 Why are you only interested in American politics when we make it into rap and we have gays and Hispanics and Puerto Ricans and blacks?
00:08:12.000 Now all of a sudden you care about American history?
00:08:15.000 What's your problem with the way I look?
00:08:17.000 I'm not sitting here saying this is the greatest way to look in the world, obviously.
00:08:22.000 But when you keep hammering it, I get suspicious.
00:08:24.000 And then they always go, well, what's your problem?
00:08:26.000 That was the thing with Tim Heidegger last night.
00:08:28.000 Ooh, you scared?
00:08:29.000 You scared?
00:08:30.000 Like, look at this ad for, what is it, auto pay?
00:08:34.000 Is it auto insurance?
00:08:36.000 Now, people will make fun of me for having a problem with this.
00:08:39.000 And this is the insidious way they chip away at traditional values.
00:08:44.000 And they make it look innocuous, like a type of bubblegum called LGBT gum for kids. 0.91
00:08:50.000 And then you go, I don't like that.
00:08:52.000 And they go, oh, you scared of gum?
00:08:54.000 What's the matter, Snowflake?
00:08:55.000 You triggered?
00:08:56.000 And you go, no, I'm not triggered.
00:08:57.000 You're not going to win.
00:08:58.000 But I see what you're doing and it bothers me.
00:09:01.000 It's annoying.
00:09:02.000 They're not going to ruin the family by ruining a Christmas story.
00:09:05.000 It's not going to end the American family, but it's just annoying that you're chipping away at it.
00:09:09.000 And of course, if the rules were reversed and you were chipping away at Chitlins and Grits or anything that soul food or saying Motown is lame or chipping away at any other culture, you'd have a heart attack.
00:09:22.000 And I know that because I see you.
00:09:24.000 I see you say Apu is problematic and you do a whole documentary about how a cartoon character is bad.
00:09:31.000 Meanwhile, we've got Ur, what's his name?
00:09:33.000 Willie the Groundskeeper.
00:09:35.000 A perfectly, it's exactly the same as Apu, but it's a Scottish stereotype.
00:09:40.000 You'd never see a documentary going, the problems with Willie the Groundskeeper.
00:09:44.000 Look at this commercial.
00:09:47.000 Anna's a mess. 1.00
00:09:48.000 We don't really let people other than us see the inside of it.
00:09:51.000 Smells like our beach trip from three years ago.
00:09:54.000 Still has sand in the carpet.
00:09:55.000 That was a great trip.
00:09:57.000 And you're still afraid of seagulls.
00:09:59.000 Just pause there.
00:10:01.000 Pardon me?
00:10:03.000 The dad is afraid of seagulls.
00:10:06.000 Yeah, that happens.
00:10:08.000 Lots of dads are scared of seagulls.
00:10:09.000 Go back to it.
00:10:13.000 So yeah, we love this van.
00:10:15.000 It's part of our family.
00:10:16.000 Our messy, wonderful victim.
00:10:18.000 By the way, that's enough of that.
00:10:20.000 By the way, you want to talk about problematic.
00:10:22.000 Homer Simpson is so stupid that, and I've said this a million times, if you left him alone, he wouldn't be able to feed himself.
00:10:30.000 So his IQ, I think to be retarded, you're considered retarded if your IQ is 80. 1.00
00:10:36.000 He's not retarded. 0.97
00:10:37.000 Retarded people, they'll make like muffins for themselves or something. 1.00
00:10:39.000 They can make toast.
00:10:40.000 So he's sub-retarded. 1.00
00:10:42.000 He has an IQ of maybe 70.
00:10:44.000 That stereotype is tedious, but also it's emblematic of a bigger picture, which is they are trying to destroy traditional culture.
00:10:53.000 They don't like the West.
00:10:55.000 They don't think the West is the best.
00:10:56.000 They think it's terrible.
00:10:57.000 Check out this.
00:10:59.000 I read about this in the Scotsman speaking of Willie the Groundskeeper.
00:11:02.000 Gender stereotyping will be illegal in commercials in Britain.
00:11:09.000 So if you have a woman who is a ballerina or a housewife, that will be illegal because that shows young girls that they should be housewives. 0.99
00:11:19.000 And that's wrong.
00:11:20.000 Now you know you can still depict dads as blithering idiots who are scared of seagulls because that stereotype is effective. 0.97
00:11:28.000 That's fine.
00:11:29.000 You can crap on tradition, but you just can't show tradition.
00:11:33.000 You see?
00:11:34.000 You see why I care?
00:11:35.000 Eric Warheim?
00:11:37.000 All right.
00:11:38.000 That's enough blithing.
00:11:40.000 Let's start the show.
00:11:44.000 We'll beat you up.
00:11:46.000 I didn't hear a threat.
00:11:48.000 Not so tough anymore, are you?
00:11:51.000 Not so tough.
00:11:51.000 What did I say?
00:11:52.000 What did I say there was a threat?
00:11:53.000 You guys remember this?
00:11:56.000 That's Joel Valdez.
00:11:58.000 We had him on the show.
00:11:59.000 He was attacked by an anti-fah prof. I talk about these anti-fa academics all the time.
00:12:04.000 Some of them are actually professors.
00:12:06.000 So this guy's having a protest.
00:12:08.000 The professor screaming about Trump or whatever.
00:12:10.000 They yell out, shouldn't you be at home with your kids?
00:12:13.000 He takes that as a threat towards his children and attacks the students, grabs their phone, smashes it.
00:12:19.000 So they press charges.
00:12:21.000 And you'd think the school would go, hey, dude, I can handle that you're an anti-fa communist, but can you not attack our clients, our students, our bread and butter?
00:12:31.000 No, the opposite has happened.
00:12:33.000 They are now trying to enforce a restraining order on Joel and the guy who wrote this article on the campus conservative.
00:12:41.000 His name is Andrew Minnick.
00:12:43.000 All these conservative students, they are enforcing a restraining order, so they'll have to leave this professor alone.
00:12:49.000 They have no interest in bothering the professor.
00:12:51.000 So I'm suspicious that this restraining order is really an excuse to give them some false parameters that they'll accidentally violate by walking by him, And then they can get expelled from the school.
00:13:02.000 Let's check in on Joel and listen to an update on this ridiculous situation.
00:13:07.000 Joel, are you there?
00:13:09.000 I'm here.
00:13:10.000 You look like a raccoon dad.
00:13:14.000 What is a raccoon dad?
00:13:16.000 Like in a kid's book, there's a family of raccoons, and you're the dad, or maybe like a bear dad.
00:13:21.000 You look like some sort of animal dad.
00:13:24.000 Probably a bear.
00:13:25.000 Dancing bear type of deal.
00:13:27.000 So the last time we spoke, you went to an event and one of your professors, who's a member of Antifa and a communist, leapt from his screaming podium and attacked you and your friend.
00:13:39.000 We ended the interview saying, let's keep in touch, and we're keeping in touch.
00:13:45.000 What's the latest?
00:13:46.000 So the update on this story is the university has issued a no contact order against myself, the author of the campus reform article, and Blair, who recorded the video.
00:13:58.000 So what a no-contact order is, it's essentially an on-campus restraining order.
00:14:03.000 So if I have any contact with Suri Khan, either orally written or by third party, I can be expelled from the university. 0.97
00:14:12.000 Wow.
00:14:12.000 It also lasts for, I believe, up to four years.
00:14:17.000 So up until the moment I graduate.
00:14:19.000 So the first substantive stance that the university takes on this issue is against us, the people who were assaulted in this case.
00:14:28.000 And this just shows that they're defending Tariq Kern.
00:14:32.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't think professors should be denied the right to be part of an organization like Antifa, but it is weird.
00:14:41.000 And then the idea of them then having protests on campus, well, now we're getting a little weirder, but I'm for free speech.
00:14:48.000 And then attacking students.
00:14:50.000 All right, I think it's going a little far.
00:14:52.000 But to back all of those and then take the side of the attacker, it's downright bizarre.
00:14:58.000 Yeah, and I had also asked them, what was the basis of issuing this no contact order?
00:15:04.000 Like, essentially, what evidence did you have to put this in place?
00:15:07.000 And the guy told me he hadn't even looked at the evidence yet.
00:15:12.000 Well, I remember Yvette Falerca was doing this to another college Republican in Berkeley. 0.53
00:15:17.000 She doesn't even go to Berkeley, but the idea was if I can get a restraining order and then I can get in his face, he will have violated his restraining order and I can arrest him.
00:15:27.000 So this might have a more sinister backstory to it.
00:15:32.000 Yeah, I mean, I honestly can't speak on what the intentions of the university are.
00:15:36.000 We're going to have to, you know, do some more digging, but it seems that there is a strong bias against conservative students on campus.
00:15:45.000 Now, are you continuing with the prosecution for his attack?
00:15:49.000 Yeah, he actually had an arraignment on this past December 12th, and now he has to reappear in court for because the state's attorney is moving forward with those charges.
00:16:00.000 And the charges are assault?
00:16:02.000 For criminal damage to property.
00:16:04.000 Huh.
00:16:05.000 And do you think you're going to win?
00:16:06.000 Do you think he's going to get charged?
00:16:08.000 I think we have a great chance.
00:16:11.000 The life of a conservative on campus in 2017.
00:16:16.000 Yeah, see, I didn't have to think that this story would necessarily need to go national in order to get some attention from the university.
00:16:24.000 I thought they would have been good people and just have dealt with it the moment it happened.
00:16:28.000 Right.
00:16:28.000 But apparently not.
00:16:30.000 No, well, apparently you're the bad guy.
00:16:32.000 And, you know, you look at someone like Jack Buckby over in Britain who was expelled from his school just for being conservative.
00:16:38.000 I've seen conservatives expelled for much less than violating a fake restraining order.
00:16:43.000 So be on your guard.
00:16:45.000 Yeah.
00:16:46.000 Yeah, we also had the author of the article, Andrew Minnick.
00:16:51.000 He was told in his interview with the Associate Dean of Students that if he wanted the story to die down, then he should probably stop writing articles about it.
00:17:04.000 Wow.
00:17:05.000 This is Pinochet all over again.
00:17:07.000 Just insane.
00:17:08.000 We like to joke about Chile, but they actually are living it.
00:17:12.000 Yeah, it's absolutely insane.
00:17:15.000 The university knows what they're doing.
00:17:17.000 Plain and simple.
00:17:18.000 Right.
00:17:19.000 Well, they've definitely chosen sides.
00:17:21.000 All right.
00:17:22.000 Is that it, Joel?
00:17:22.000 Is that it for the updates?
00:17:24.000 That's the update so far.
00:17:26.000 We'll let you know with any further updates.
00:17:28.000 Yeah, keep us posted because I have a sneaking suspicion there's a lot more coming.
00:17:31.000 Oh, there will.
00:17:32.000 All right, man.
00:17:33.000 Thanks for checking in.
00:17:34.000 Yeah, thank you so much.
00:17:37.000 Give us some money.
00:17:38.000 It was really sex drugs in disco.
00:17:42.000 Did I say rock and roll?
00:17:45.000 So I decided as an experiment to go to a strip club.
00:17:48.000 I ended up talking about vegetables and gardening with a woman that wanted to get a lap dance. 1.00
00:17:56.000 There was a young woman in the choir group and through a series of circumstances at a party, she kind of started paying attention to me.
00:18:05.000 The lights, the way people dress, the mute.
00:18:08.000 All right, so that's a documentary called The Desire of the Everlasting Hills, which I find super weird.
00:18:14.000 I can't really wrap my head around it.
00:18:16.000 It is about gays talking about how they were led into gaydom and lesbianity, whatever, and then brought back out by the church.
00:18:26.000 Now, I personally think you're born gay. 1.00
00:18:29.000 I could see calling it a sin.
00:18:31.000 I drink excessively.
00:18:32.000 That's a sin.
00:18:33.000 But the idea of someone resisting their sexuality is foreign to me.
00:18:38.000 I don't quite get it.
00:18:40.000 I mean, isn't it an all-encompassing urge?
00:18:43.000 And then they say, well, you know, infidelity is an all-encompassing urge.
00:18:47.000 Cheating on your wife is. 0.75
00:18:49.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:18:50.000 The cons of that are a little more severe than if you're gay and being with a gay. 0.60
00:18:54.000 But who am I?
00:18:55.000 So I tracked down one of the guys in the film.
00:18:58.000 His name's Daniel Madison.
00:19:00.000 And he has a book out called Why I Don't Call Myself Gay.
00:19:05.000 And Daniel is attracted to men, wants to have sex with them, but he's not willing to indulge in the sin, and he's much happier.
00:19:16.000 Now, again, I'm not saying that this is what you should do if you're gay, but I find it fascinating that someone has pursued this.
00:19:23.000 So let's talk to him.
00:19:24.000 Daniel C. Matson, are you there?
00:19:26.000 I am.
00:19:27.000 So glad to be with you.
00:19:28.000 I'm honored to have you, sir.
00:19:30.000 I'm fascinated by your story.
00:19:32.000 Let's just dive right into it.
00:19:34.000 Why do you not call yourself gay? 0.69
00:19:38.000 Well, that's a good place to start the title of my book.
00:19:41.000 Well, I have to say, one of the reasons I wrote this book is I had an intellectual journey as well as a spiritual journey.
00:19:50.000 I ended up in the Catholic Church in large part because of the church's teaching on homosexuality and how it responded to my life situation.
00:20:00.000 I was raised as a Christian and as a believer, and I was confronted with the fact that I had these attractions to men, and I finally turned my back on my faith.
00:20:09.000 I thought this is ridiculous.
00:20:10.000 I lived my way I wanted to live.
00:20:12.000 I found myself attracted to men.
00:20:14.000 I decided I was gay, founded a man to share my life with.
00:20:19.000 But even while I was there in that, living that part of my life, this division of the world between gay and straight and these discrete categories of the sexual person just seemed odd and strange to me.
00:20:32.000 And intellectually, they just didn't seem to make sense of my experience and of the historic human experience of multiple cultures throughout the centuries.
00:20:44.000 Men throughout history have had sex with men.
00:20:48.000 Women have had sex with women. 1.00
00:20:50.000 But it's not until the past 100 years or so, 150 years ago, that we've decided to make because you have sex with a member of the same sex, you are suddenly a different type of sexual creature. 0.59
00:21:04.000 It just didn't make sense to me on an intellectual level that I'm a different sort of man, a different sort of sexual being in my essence than my brothers or my best friends or my father or whatever, just because I happen to like having sex with men.
00:21:24.000 So if you're not gay, what are you?
00:21:26.000 Are you straight?
00:21:27.000 I'm a man.
00:21:30.000 See, I find even the word straight is problematic too.
00:21:34.000 It's a strange juxtaposition.
00:21:37.000 Imagine what this does to kids.
00:21:39.000 So many kids have this, in adolescence, this fleeting, oftentimes a fleeting attraction to the same sex.
00:21:47.000 And it's only modern man that would say, well, as soon as you have even one iota of attraction to the same sex, it means you're not straight.
00:21:56.000 That's what that means.
00:21:57.000 You may be bisexual.
00:21:59.000 You may be gay. 0.99
00:22:00.000 That sounds kind of reasonable to me, to be honest.
00:22:03.000 Well, I've never been attracted to men.
00:22:07.000 I don't believe in bi, for example.
00:22:10.000 I think that's just a phase.
00:22:12.000 But I think if you're gay, you're gay. 0.99
00:22:15.000 Now, I'm an alcoholic and a Catholic.
00:22:18.000 I recognize that booze is a sin.
00:22:20.000 So while I'm drinking, I'm like, here I am sinning it up again.
00:22:25.000 Is it that for you?
00:22:26.000 Like, do you see gay sex as a sin?
00:22:30.000 Oh, absolutely.
00:22:32.000 Now, see, booze is not a sin.
00:22:35.000 It's too much booze that's a sin.
00:22:37.000 That's what I do.
00:22:38.000 Too much booze.
00:22:39.000 Well, I like craft beer quite a bit.
00:22:42.000 Temperance in all its levels is a challenge for me.
00:22:44.000 Oh, you don't like it?
00:22:45.000 Budweiser and Maker's Mark is all man needs.
00:22:48.000 Rotten corn and corporate beer.
00:22:52.000 What do you have?
00:22:53.000 Pumpkin ale?
00:22:54.000 A chocolate stout?
00:22:55.000 You really are gay. 1.00
00:22:59.000 No, no fruit beers for me, man.
00:23:01.000 Give me a good porter or a good IPA.
00:23:04.000 Yeah, there is one.
00:23:05.000 It's called Bud.
00:23:08.000 Whatever.
00:23:09.000 Come to Grand Rapids.
00:23:10.000 Separate debate.
00:23:11.000 Separate debate.
00:23:13.000 I'm particularly interested in this subject.
00:23:15.000 Sorry.
00:23:15.000 But my uncle is a closeted gay, and he spent his whole life, and he's not particularly religious, but I think in the 50s in Scotland, it was a bad thing to be gay.
00:23:26.000 So he just sort of locked into that.
00:23:28.000 And even as the 60s and the 70s happened, where it would have been fine, he stayed in the closet.
00:23:33.000 And I just think, what a waste.
00:23:36.000 Well, he's no longer a closeted gay if you just told the whole world.
00:23:42.000 He's dying, and no one will ever see this.
00:23:46.000 Yeah.
00:23:47.000 Well, so for me, the question is, who am I?
00:23:52.000 And what most accurately describes who I am?
00:23:56.000 What gives me the most freedom to be who I truly am?
00:23:59.000 That's one of the things that the whole world says is, well, you need to be who you are.
00:24:05.000 Agreed.
00:24:06.000 And who you are now in this world is based on the feelings that you have, the inclinations that you have, rather than some sort of objective reality.
00:24:16.000 And so feelings, this is how we get people who say, well, I identify, there's a fellow in Canada who's 56 years old who identifies now as a six-year-old girl.
00:24:30.000 Stephan Ni is his name.
00:24:33.000 Yes, you're familiar with me.
00:24:35.000 I'm very familiar with Stefan Nee.
00:24:37.000 Stephan Ni.
00:24:38.000 Yes.
00:24:39.000 And originally, Stefan Nee identified as an eight-year-old girl, but changed it to six.
00:24:45.000 See, I went to the age.
00:24:47.000 Age is not specific.
00:24:49.000 Age is amorphous.
00:24:50.000 It changes.
00:24:51.000 I'm 29.
00:24:53.000 Well, the doctor says I need to lose some weight.
00:24:57.000 And I said, you know, I identify as 175-pound man.
00:25:01.000 Well, wait a minute.
00:25:02.000 Wait a minute.
00:25:03.000 Daniel, we need to get, because people who are watching this don't know who you are.
00:25:07.000 So I understand the concept of your sexuality not defining you.
00:25:11.000 And that's actually a pet peeve of mine is the way gays go. 1.00
00:25:13.000 I'm gay, I'm gay.
00:25:14.000 And I think, you know, when you get older, sex is what, every few days for five minutes?
00:25:18.000 It's not a lot to define yourself by.
00:25:21.000 Well, I agree, too.
00:25:22.000 But so what, like, what do you do sexually?
00:25:26.000 Do you have sex with men?
00:25:29.000 Well, see, you come back to booze.
00:25:32.000 Booze is not a sin, but having too much booze is a sin.
00:25:37.000 Having sex outside of marriage between a man and woman is a sin. 0.87
00:25:42.000 So therefore, guided by the virtue of chastity, I don't have sex with men.
00:25:47.000 But that's, of course, hello, I am a fragile, weak man.
00:25:52.000 So I came back to the Catholic Church in 2009 and made the decision not to have sex with men.
00:25:58.000 I have stumbled upon The way, and thank God I have the sacrament of reconciliation.
00:26:03.000 But the journey towards chastity, which is a gift to all of us, takes a lifetime, but it has enriched my life.
00:26:13.000 My life has been better when I haven't had sex with men.
00:26:16.000 Are you married to a woman?
00:26:18.000 No, I'm single and happily so.
00:26:22.000 I'm open to marriage to a woman if that woman comes along that I'm attracted to.
00:26:27.000 If she's broad-shouldered, has a crew cut, and no tits. 1.00
00:26:33.000 You know, in this movie I was in, I actually, Desire of the Everlasting Hills, I was in this relationship with a man, and suddenly this woman came along in my life, and I wasn't supposed to be attracted to her because I'm a gay man.
00:26:50.000 I put a stake in the ground, and I'm a gay man.
00:26:52.000 You know, and I think this is one of the other traps of this gay straight divide, that you put yourself in this category. 0.79
00:27:01.000 This is who I am.
00:27:02.000 And either you're being in self-denial if you find someone of the opposite sex attracted, you're kind of betraying the cause, you're betraying your true self.
00:27:14.000 And yet, I found this woman, and I was sexually attracted to her.
00:27:17.000 And yes, we engaged in sex, and I loved it.
00:27:22.000 How did that happen?
00:27:23.000 You know, and I just read about a guy who was in a relationship with another guy in New York, and the guy that he was with used to have relationships with women.
00:27:35.000 But they've been in this, quote-unquote, married for five, six years, and the guy who used to date women said, I'd like to have sex with women again.
00:27:42.000 Well, they brought another woman. 0.99
00:27:45.000 They brought a woman into the relationship. 1.00
00:27:47.000 And now the other guy, who had never done anything with a woman, he decides that, well, I'm homoflexible.
00:27:55.000 That's his sexual identity.
00:27:57.000 How does all this fit in the Catholic Church?
00:27:59.000 Do those three go to church together?
00:28:01.000 Well, I doubt that.
00:28:04.000 But see, here's the thing is I think the Catholic Church provides a clarity based on objective reality about human sexuality.
00:28:13.000 Who we are is male and female, made for each other.
00:28:17.000 That's clearly written into my body.
00:28:21.000 I have an innate sexual orientation towards women.
00:28:24.000 My body only makes sense in relationship to women. 1.00
00:28:27.000 Now I can use it to have sex with men, but it's really not having sex.
00:28:32.000 It's me getting off with another man.
00:28:39.000 Sorry to interrupt, but isn't it just easier for you to control this urge because you're older now and your libido's down?
00:28:48.000 I remember I was talking to a paralyzed guy and he said, you know, my adolescence was brutal, but now that I'm old and I don't have, I don't think about breasts every two seconds, it's a real relief.
00:29:01.000 Isn't it easier for you to say no to sex when you're, I don't know how old you identify as, but you look like you're in your 50s?
00:29:08.000 You know, I don't understand people who say that their libido diminishes as they get older.
00:29:14.000 Oh, come on. 0.87
00:29:15.000 In your teens?
00:29:16.000 In your teens, you had a coconut smasher from wake till sleep.
00:29:20.000 Dude, if I had my choice, I'd start the day having sex.
00:29:26.000 I'd have a little lunch break, have sex, and then have sex to close it out at night.
00:29:31.000 My libido, as far as my libido goes, I identify as a 17-year-old man.
00:29:41.000 And here's the strange thing.
00:29:43.000 As an older guy who's a bit chunky, I am a big sexual object in the gay community. 1.00
00:29:50.000 Believe it or not.
00:29:51.000 What's that called?
00:29:52.000 Like a bear or whatever?
00:29:54.000 Yes, like a daddy bear sort of thing.
00:29:57.000 It would be very easy for me to have sex on a regular basis.
00:30:01.000 So it's not, chastity is not easy for me because I'm older.
00:30:07.000 You know, I talk to people my age and they say, oh, my libido has faded.
00:30:13.000 Maybe a little bit, but chastity is not easy.
00:30:19.000 Look, we're running low on time here, but just to be crystal clear, so you have these desires for men.
00:30:25.000 You are back with the Catholic Church. 0.96
00:30:28.000 You may fall from grace occasionally, but for the most part, you are able to abstain from your desires because to be gay is a sin. 1.00
00:30:38.000 Is that it?
00:30:39.000 No.
00:30:40.000 To be gay is not a sin.
00:30:40.000 No.
00:30:43.000 The church is very clear.
00:30:44.000 These inclinations are not sinful.
00:30:46.000 To act upon them is sinful.
00:30:50.000 And it's just like a man who is married to a woman and it has an adulterous affair, that that's sinful.
00:30:58.000 We're living outside the bounds of what human sexuality is for, and therefore it's opposed to human flourishing.
00:31:05.000 I'll tell you this, my life is more fulfilling and happier when I am living a chaste life. 0.92
00:31:13.000 That is what I have found.
00:31:15.000 This is why I pursue this.
00:31:16.000 This is why I say in the book, how I reclaimed my sexual reality and found peace.
00:31:24.000 That's the million-dollar point right there, is if it works and you're happier, I mean, the only time I would object to this is if you were miserable.
00:31:33.000 Well, you know, it's I tried living the way that the world said, you know, hey, live your life as a gay man.
00:31:42.000 That's who you are.
00:31:43.000 But the fact of the matter is people who live out gay relationships ultimately, they're not very satisfying. 0.98
00:31:51.000 Huffington Post had an article not too long ago, The Epidemic of Gay Loneliness.
00:31:56.000 And it was a whole discussion of, well, we now have Obergefell.
00:32:01.000 Why aren't we happier than we are?
00:32:05.000 We're supposed to be happier.
00:32:06.000 Well, the reason they're not happy is they're living outside of God's plan for human sexuality. 0.98
00:32:11.000 And they won't find peace until they find peace in the commandments of God.
00:32:18.000 And this is one reason I wrote my book.
00:32:21.000 They provide hope to people who say, man, I've tried this and it's not working out.
00:32:26.000 I'm not trying to convert the world, but I'm trying to put a lifeboat Out there for people like me who found living out the gay life ultimately unsatisfying.
00:32:36.000 Well, whatever works, Daniel, thanks for coming on the show.
00:32:41.000 I'd love to have you back soon.
00:32:43.000 I'm really interested in this topic.
00:32:45.000 And we can talk about IPAs as well.
00:32:49.000 Well, that's not open to debate.
00:32:51.000 Gayness, the Bible, there's room to move there. 1.00
00:32:54.000 There's no room to move from the king of beers.
00:32:57.000 It's the king.
00:32:58.000 Why would you want a copper or a prince?
00:33:03.000 Thanks, Daniel.
00:33:05.000 Cheers.
00:33:05.000 Take care.
00:33:10.000 Tiana, are you there, ma'am?
00:33:12.000 Yes, I am.
00:33:13.000 Now I understand you have a new podcast out.
00:33:16.000 I do.
00:33:17.000 It is called the Political Pregame, and I host it with a liberal in which we debate over things, you know, so that's fun.
00:33:23.000 Ew, liberals are gorillas.
00:33:25.000 She's one of the sane ones.
00:33:26.000 She's not into the whole like intersectionality suicide bomb fest, you know.
00:33:31.000 Is she into murdering babies? 1.00
00:33:34.000 I don't think she's into it.
00:33:36.000 Yes, if she's pro-choice, she's gross. 1.00
00:33:40.000 We don't have a lot of time here, but I was going through this.
00:33:43.000 You know about this Amber Tamblin Rose McGowan thing?
00:33:46.000 Yeah, it's, I mean, honestly, I think everyone just can't handle Rose McGowan because she's kind of willing to be pretty ruthless to anyone who is really hypocritical. 0.99
00:33:57.000 And I don't know, I get it.
00:33:59.000 I mean, I completely sympathize with Rose McGowan.
00:34:03.000 And what she went through for years in silence and sort of all like the typical leftist Hollywood virtue signaling, people now jumping on the boat, pretending like they're an ally when they weren't there for her previously.
00:34:13.000 I don't know.
00:34:14.000 I get it.
00:34:14.000 Just to keep everyone up to date here.
00:34:16.000 So all the people at the, I guess the, what, the Oscars or whatever, are going to wear a little black dress to protest sexual harassment. 1.00
00:34:24.000 That's their little me too.
00:34:26.000 And then Rose McGowan says, what an empty gesture.
00:34:29.000 And then she goes, why don't you just wear a marcheza?
00:34:32.000 What does that mean?
00:34:32.000 Is that like a fancy clothing?
00:34:34.000 So I believe it's because Georgina Chapman, who's Harvey Weinstein's soon-to-be ex-wife, who claims that she didn't know about any of this, she designed for Marcheza.
00:34:47.000 I believe.
00:34:48.000 I think that's what I mean.
00:34:49.000 Oh, I get it now.
00:34:50.000 God, girls are so inside-y with their insults. 1.00
00:34:52.000 I know, right?
00:34:54.000 That's elaborate.
00:34:56.000 But I think I kind of agree with Rose on this one.
00:34:59.000 I am so sick of armbands and hashtags.
00:35:04.000 And you look at terrorism with these little candles.
00:35:07.000 And, you know, the Battleclan, I went to Paris after Battaclan, and there was just roses and flowers and candles everywhere.
00:35:14.000 And you go, terrorists don't even mind that.
00:35:17.000 No, and it's just, it's like the easiest form of protestation.
00:35:20.000 Like, you know what?
00:35:21.000 If you really want to make a stand, stop making films with Woody Allen, you know?
00:35:25.000 If you really want to make a, I mean, like, I don't know.
00:35:27.000 It's just, it's like everyone does stuff once it's cool.
00:35:30.000 You know, it's like the same way every single Democratic senator came out against Al Franken the second he was politically expedient.
00:35:37.000 And then, oh, Roy Moore loses the election.
00:35:39.000 And now he's going to renege on his promise.
00:35:41.000 Like, no one saw that one coming.
00:35:43.000 Well, I also don't get all these women who say, I was sexually harassed.
00:35:48.000 And I just lay there underneath a disgusting pig like Harvey.
00:35:52.000 It's one thing to have sex with someone you don't want to.
00:35:54.000 But to lie underneath Harvey Weinstein for what?
00:35:58.000 For your career?
00:35:59.000 Okay.
00:36:00.000 Get a different job.
00:36:02.000 But think about it.
00:36:03.000 Okay.
00:36:03.000 The reason why I urge conservatives to not repel the Me Too movement is that it's not about this witch hunt of ordinary men.
00:36:13.000 It is specifically about these very traditionally left-wing power structures that are extremely hierarchical, that are built around these sort of cults of personality.
00:36:24.000 Think about what are conservative spheres.
00:36:26.000 Typical business, retail, farming.
00:36:30.000 You're not going to have a massive sexual harassment scandal out of something that's a pure meritocracy.
00:36:34.000 It happens when power is passed down from Harvey Weinstein to Bob Weinstein, from Blythe Danner to Gwyneth Haltrow.
00:36:43.000 Okay.
00:36:43.000 I got all that.
00:36:44.000 But stand up.
00:36:45.000 We've got cops.
00:36:46.000 You know, if someone asks me to jerk them off, the answer is no.
00:36:50.000 I don't sit there and acquiesce.
00:36:53.000 Because we have 600,000 men died in the Civil War for a war most of them didn't even believe in.
00:36:59.000 And you can't be inconvenienced at a job interview?
00:37:03.000 I mean, I don't know.
00:37:04.000 It's such a strange power structure.
00:37:08.000 I mean, it's the reason why Hollywood is a disease and it does need to be.
00:37:11.000 I mean, I don't know.
00:37:14.000 The system is septic, clearly.
00:37:15.000 If you have this system that clearly where no one's getting their roles based on merit, I mean, that much is evident.
00:37:23.000 You know, clearly films aren't being approved.
00:37:24.000 Yeah.
00:37:24.000 So stand up to rape.
00:37:26.000 Strip aren't being approved on merit.
00:37:26.000 Look, I'm done.
00:37:27.000 No, so this is good.
00:37:29.000 It's the purge.
00:37:29.000 It's the reckoning.
00:37:30.000 And it needed to happen.
00:37:31.000 You know, I have a feeling academia is going to be the next domino to fall.
00:37:34.000 I mean, that's another very, like, left-wing power structure that is built around, again, not much merit, a lot of tradition.
00:37:40.000 And in those sorts of power structures, this abuse thrives.
00:37:44.000 You know?
00:37:44.000 I mean, again, everyone kept on saying, Silicon Valley, that's going to be the place to fall.
00:37:50.000 Yeah, all right, what's the biggest scandal you have?
00:37:52.000 Travis Kalanick, the former CEO of Uber, is kind of a dick.
00:37:57.000 That's it.
00:37:58.000 That's all you have.
00:37:58.000 That's all they had.
00:37:59.000 A lot of this serves as a distraction from major stories.
00:38:02.000 And sometimes I almost get sort of conspiratorial about it and think, is the administration, are the DNC trying to brainwash?
00:38:11.000 Is it not noticing this mass?
00:38:13.000 Like, for example, this massive scoop where we learned just recently in Politico that Obama was allowing Hezbollah to make billions? 0.84
00:38:23.000 Definitely millions.
00:38:24.000 Billions.
00:38:25.000 Billions in cocaine trafficking, which, okay, instinctually, the libertarian in me says, incredible case for a lot of people.
00:38:31.000 cocaine legalization you know but okay not to quantificate here no this is insane so while this whole mueller investigation is going about potential trump russia collusion right now all smoke no gun none there is no gun you know you i mean there's nothing that we don't there's nothing that we know now that we didn't basically know before the american people elected donald trump i mean okay was was he far more putin friendly than I would have liked.
00:39:02.000 Yeah, but we already knew that.
00:39:03.000 It's not like there's no evidence right now that Russia was actively rigging the election against Hillary Clinton.
00:39:10.000 And right now, it looks like there's far more of a case that Obama was helping out Putin than anyone else.
00:39:16.000 I mean, simply because he let this guy, Ali Fayed, who was essentially a Putin agent, off in order to greasen the relations with Iran to pass the disastrous Iran deal, which hopefully we are turning back on. 0.58
00:39:33.000 Well, he was just all about appeasing Muslims, and all they did was take advantage of him. 1.00
00:39:38.000 Every time he gave them an inch, they took a mile.
00:39:40.000 And the next thing you know, we've got Hezbollah making billions in cocaine money, funding terrorism.
00:39:45.000 And we have an Iran deal that involved bringing them pallets of money and releasing prison.
00:39:51.000 I mean, not releasing American prisoners.
00:39:53.000 It's pathetic.
00:39:54.000 Well, not only is it pathetic, it's also, I mean, Hezbollah exists for one purpose and one purpose only, and that is getting rid of the Jews. 0.89
00:40:02.000 And I mean, I am not the biggest Trump fan, but if you compare the, okay, rhetoric aside, you know, Trump side is rhetoric problems, Charlottesville and Obama's very virtue signal-y.
00:40:14.000 Rhetoric aside, if you compare the treatment of Jews and specifically Israeli Jews, which reflects for all Jews on the international stage between the Obama administration, which is actively assisting and allowing Hezbollah to thrive, make billions of dollars a year on this illegal drug trafficking in comparison to Trump,
00:40:34.000 who, while yes, there's been some sort of unfortunate platforming of anti-Semitic voices, has done the remarkable and actually fulfilled a campaign promise to move the capital of Israel to Jerusalem and recognize it finally at last.
00:40:50.000 I mean, if you compare that treatment of the Jews, I mean, it's really.
00:40:54.000 Trump is the most Jewish-friendly president we've ever had, and Obama was the least Jewish-friendly president we've ever had.
00:40:59.000 But the left can't see that because the left only sees color.
00:41:02.000 Tiana, we're out of time.
00:41:03.000 Thank you so much for coming on the show.
00:41:05.000 Always a pleasure.
00:41:06.000 But if you've got one, I have a machine gun.
00:41:09.000 I'm a mermaid.
00:41:11.000 I am literally a real-life mermaid.
00:41:15.000 Wait.
00:41:16.000 I'm literally a real-life mermaid.
00:41:20.000 No, you're not.
00:41:21.000 You're a human being who stuffed her legs into a latex tail. 0.63
00:41:26.000 I thought I was seeing things.
00:41:28.000 Look at this.
00:41:29.000 Look at these weirdos.
00:41:30.000 Look at their faces.
00:41:31.000 They think they're mermaids. 1.00
00:41:33.000 Because I'm a mermaid.
00:41:35.000 No, you're not.
00:41:37.000 When I take my tail off, it almost feels like a piece of me has come off.
00:41:41.000 No, it's not a piece of you.
00:41:43.000 Look how weird.
00:41:44.000 One of them is even a dude named Ed.
00:41:47.000 Yeah, that's Ed.
00:41:48.000 Look how weird his face is.
00:41:50.000 My tail is a part of me, and I do actually feel like it is a prosthetic limb.
00:41:54.000 I sometimes think probably one of the weirdest feelings in the world.
00:41:57.000 What's with his face?
00:41:59.000 I don't understand.
00:42:01.000 What have you done, you weirdos?
00:42:03.000 You know what this is?
00:42:04.000 This is just lonely nerds with no relationships, no sexuality in their lives, because no one wants to have sex with them.
00:42:12.000 Playing.
00:42:13.000 You're not a mermaid.
00:42:14.000 You're an adult playing.
00:42:16.000 Chance to sort of live out a dream or a fantasy and be something other than the thing you are.
00:42:23.000 Thanks a lot.
00:42:24.000 You just got spit all over my monitor. 1.00