Gavin McInnes is back with a special Christmas edition of Get Off My Lawn. He's joined by gay comedian Chadwick Moore, who's been kicked out of the gay community for his support of Donald Trump. They talk about why gay people don't belong in the closet, and the hypocrisy behind it.
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00:00:37.000Bruce Springsteen, Santa Claus is coming to town.
00:00:41.000Father Christmas, that jam, and of course, that you're a bum, you're a drunk, the poke song are probably the top three Santa songs of all time, Christmas songs.
00:00:51.000Are you getting the jingle tingle yet?
00:00:52.000Who's calling me when I'm on the show?
00:01:16.000I guess we're supposed to be excited that this woman had a kid.
00:01:19.000I mean, she was infertile, so that's cool that she made a kid.
00:01:22.000I just don't like all this talk of freezing your eggs.
00:01:26.000These women seem to think, okay, Gavin, I believe you that my ovaries have limited time, but I'm just going to freeze them.
00:01:32.000And then I can have the baby when I'm 40 or something.
00:01:34.000Or maybe I'll just get artificially inseminated.
00:01:37.000It's like we're coming up with all these ways to fix the family and make our own sort of jalopy homemade thing that is way worse than the thing you're replacing.
00:02:14.000And, you know, you know, I just wanted to say that there's this misconception that right-wingers ostracize their gay friends or their black friends or their whatever friends.
00:03:25.000I mean, the hypocrisy is mind-boggling.
00:03:28.000But you got to let it go because Christmas is about acceptance and it's about taking everyone in.
00:03:33.000It's about not fighting with your family and it's about being the best you can be, as Bill Murray says in Scrooged.
00:03:42.000We also have on the show the very Italiano show.
00:03:44.000We got Anthony Cumi is going to be here talking about Saturday Night Fever and how if you watch that movie from an Italian perspective, the way they depict Italians is so shockingly stereotypical and insulting that if it was blacks or any other group, Jews, anyone, the movie would be banned in all states.
00:04:04.000I mean, it is shockingly racist, but we don't get mad when you depict us in ways like that.
00:05:24.000You know, Barack Obama got a rodeo clown fired when the rodeo clown dressed up as Barack Obama, even though every rodeo clown ever has done every, sorry, every rodeo clown at this particular rodeo had done every president throughout history.
00:05:42.000Oh, yesterday, by the way, everyone was talking about this scoop with Obama and letting Hezbollah get away with dealing billions of dollars in drugs and using that money to fund terrorism.
00:06:01.000All these politicians, they meet these Sikhs, these sheiks, they meet these oil tycoons, they go to Qatar, they go to Dubai, they're in this massive glass elevator, and they get seduced by it.
00:06:13.000And so when you say Muslim to them, they remember this giant buffet table with beautiful woman everywhere and someone playing some weird instrument they've never seen before with those stupid curly carpet riding shoes.
00:06:24.000That's what Muslims are to them, and that's why Obama cut so many deals and put us all in jeopardy because he's obsessed with Muslim rich people.
00:06:33.000And we've seen this happen before with the Bushes and Mexicans.
00:06:38.000The Bushes were obsessed with rich Mexicans.
00:06:44.000That's why the Jeb Bush is married to that Hispanic woman because they've always fetishized the Mexican rich.
00:06:49.000And Mexican rich are very similar to Middle Eastern rich in that they'll have two gold lions at the front door and a glass elevator and you're eating out of a diamond dish or some crap like that.
00:09:19.000I like checking in with him once in a while because I'm fascinated by the fact that he is ostracizing the gay community for being pro-Trump and dating apps that he goes on.
00:09:29.000He puts MAGA as a hashtag, and he gets responses like, how can you support someone who literally wants us to die?
00:09:40.000And, you know, I often say that being a Trump supporter in New York is like being gay in the 50s, but imagine being a gay Trump supporter in New York.
00:09:47.000So let's check in with Chadwick and see how life on the outskirts of gay is going.
00:09:58.000Chadwick, the forgotten homosexual, the gay cast-aside, the forgotten urchin, the street urchin, left to the wolves of the homosexual community because you committed the ultimate sin, and it's not having sex with a woman.
00:10:30.000It sounds like you're on an operating bed, and I go, you see right there, that's homosexual.
00:10:38.000Yeah, and you know, a lot of right-wing gay people are, you know, they don't like the word gay.
00:10:43.000They hate it because now it's become such a political, has so many political connotations and basically just references like a wing of the Democratic Party, a sort of propaganda wing.
00:10:55.000Yeah, it makes me think of that stupid parade where everyone dances around in underwear and says, I have sex.
00:11:01.000Yeah, and then now they're bringing their children to it.
00:11:18.000Like you go up to a black guy on the street who's just coming back from work and you go, so do you think that a lot of these LGBTQ trans people deserve their own bathrooms?
00:11:30.000And he's like, I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
00:11:36.000And you know, what I was basically saying was gay people are like most people in that like, yeah, they might like lean one way politically, but they're not these rabid activists, these insane people that really give all gays a bad name.
00:11:48.000And so I said that on Tucker Carlson, and ooh, the gays do not like that.
00:11:54.000funny enough that there are all these sort of gay magazines that basically went out with a headline that said gay people only what I said was you know most gay people just care about pop music and the beach they don't really care about And the headline was, of course, Fox News Commentator says, gay people only care about pop music at the beach.
00:12:14.000Not mentioning that I'm gay, of course.
00:12:16.000That's kind of like a very important thing you should probably note.
00:12:19.000So then I issued a public clarification and I said that, you know, look, that's not what I meant to say.
00:13:50.000So I said, you know, I said, well, they're not going to serve me.
00:13:52.000And he's like, oh, you're full of it, blah, blah, blah.
00:13:54.000So we walked in and there's this tranny who works there, who I've known for, it's a trans man who I've known for years and was always very friendly with.
00:14:02.000And I walked in and I was like, hey, how's it going?
00:14:05.000And he goes, and just flips me off and walks away.
00:14:09.000And Peter was like, holy shit, you were right.
00:14:11.000But meanwhile, there was like a bar back who was, you know, polishing up the bar top or whatever, looked over and saw me and walked by and like sneaked me a little like.
00:14:48.000This woman should be honored to be in a gay bar.
00:14:52.000And the idea of her coming in there and giving you the finger, that's like Sean King being at a black bar and giving some other black dude the finger.
00:15:14.000Well, it's ironic because I always describe us as gays in the 50s because when, you know, you see each other at a party, especially where I live in the suburbs in liberal New York, you see someone, they mention tax, and you sort of do like a, and then you go off to the kitchen and meet.
00:15:29.000And then when you have your little Trump session, you come back to the party and you walk away from each other so people don't know that you were just having one of those disgusting conversations.
00:15:54.000I'm going to see my dad, which, you know, I haven't, my parents have been divorced for almost 20 years and we've never gone to my dad's for Christmas.
00:16:39.000So that's one of those divorces where the dad doesn't remarry.
00:16:42.000He just becomes a weird hermit dude who has, like, those guys will have one fork, one knife, one spoon, one plate, because you don't want dishes piling up.
00:18:52.000But you know, I just gave a talk to the Log Cabin Republicans, which is the gay Republican group, to their chapter in Los Angeles, which is the oldest.
00:19:02.000They told me it's the oldest continually running gay group in the country.
00:19:34.000I think it's probably because they're just far more of the flesh out there that they just really don't give a f.
00:19:41.000Whereas here, you know, you got way more like gender freaks and all those unfable furballs in a dress and things like that who are just so desperate and spoiled, desperate for attention and spoiled.
00:19:54.000Whereas in LA, it's like, well, you got to get that hot body, go to the gym, and you don't really care about anything else.
00:20:04.000Because there could be a component where I said the Proud Boys would never exist in LA, and then it ended up being the biggest chapter.
00:20:12.000And I think it's because down there, they are so desperate for a place to be normal and talk about Trump that when we create that little bubble where they can be normal for once, it just blossomed.
00:20:42.000And I have so many friends on Facebook and Twitter and shit that are conservatives in LA and tons of gay conservatives in L.A. There's something going on there.
00:20:53.000Remember, Ann Coulter said our blacks are better than their blacks, meaning conservative blacks, their views are more hammered because they get more crap.
00:21:00.000But maybe their conservatives are better than our conservatives.
00:21:03.000The LA conservatives are better than the East Coast conservatives.
00:23:03.000So before we give you puberty inhibitors to screw up your entire life and make you infertile forever at the age of 11 years old, why don't we let you run around the West Village for a while in some red leather short shorts when you turn 18 and then get back to me?
00:23:20.000Because I can't give an 18-year-old a tattoo or a 17 and 0.9-year-old a tattoo, but I can reverse puberty on a kid.
00:23:29.000So because that one point was in the dock, they shut it down.
00:23:34.000And the CBC itself, Deborah So at the CBC, goes, this should leave us unsettled that we can't show this.
00:23:41.000Now, here's what I believe with the trans kids, and I stole this analogy from Anthony Coumia.
00:23:50.000You know, where they'd have this woman and say, my boy is sick.
00:23:53.000And then when the doctors weren't looking, she'd pour bleach down his throat and he'd be puking and the doctors couldn't figure out what the problem was and she'd get all this sympathy as the mother of a sick child.
00:24:02.000Well, now everyone's garnering attention as the mother of a trans child.
00:25:39.000You're just boring people who want to be interesting.
00:25:43.000And by the way, when I said trans people are just mentally ill-gays and they went ballistic and tried to shut my life down and came to my work and harassed my family, it's because nothing makes boring people angrier than when you say, sorry, you're not special.
00:25:59.000See, This is all part of this sort of self-hatred, this ethnomasochism we have.
00:26:03.000Like in Canada, no one is ever a proud Canadian.
00:26:20.000And I remember Brian Lilly, who became a cuck later on, but back when he had some balls, he said, what bothers him about the World Cup is Brazilian Canadians will have a big Brazilian flag on their car.
00:27:43.000And by the way, does this not trivialize man and woman?
00:27:47.000I mean, when I was a punk rock teenager, it was really hard to become a punk and not get called a poser.
00:27:53.000You had to have Dr. Martin's, you had to have Boy of London bondage pants, you had to have a motorcycle jacket, you had to have the right t-shirts.
00:28:01.000Your bands had to be sort of cohesive.
00:28:04.000Like if you had discharge and crass and chaos UK, you couldn't have, say, No EX or a modern American hardcore band.
00:29:31.000I read this article a while ago, actually, in the New York Post, Deve Cuozzo, and he doesn't like the way they depicted Italians in Saturday Night Fever.
00:29:40.000And I have to admit, I'd never really noticed that before.
00:29:43.000But some of the lines here, like we can't say them without bleeping, but Tony says in it, hey, would you put your d ⁇ in a s ⁇ ?
00:29:55.000And this movie was written by a rich kid from Detroit who'd never been to South Brooklyn or hung out with Italians.
00:30:01.000But it was a strange time in the 80s where everyone was obsessed with Brooklyn.
00:30:05.000There was Lords of Brooklyn in the 70s too.
00:30:07.000American Graffiti, all these movies about Brooklyn.
00:30:11.000It was kind of like the Hollywood of the time.
00:30:13.000I think all the movies were made in New York in the 70s.
00:30:17.000You had the Warriors and all that stuff.
00:30:19.000But I re-watched the movie after reading this article, and it is pretty amazing how stupid they make the Italians here.
00:30:28.000And this is relevant because it'd be fun to just be as outraged as the left just for one day, just for European people or, you know, normal traditional dads, like the way we get depicted in, say, The Simpsons or any other show, the stupid dad.
00:30:44.000If we were one-tenth as outraged as you, the whole world would shut down.
00:30:49.000But just for fun, let's play Social Justice Warrior and look at some of these scenes.
00:30:54.000Here's a dinner scene, a dinner scene with Tony at the table with his Italian family.
00:32:28.000That's how you get your shit together.
00:32:30.000You put it in a salad bowl and you mix it up.
00:32:33.000That is, now I think seven-year-old is too old.
00:32:37.000Anyway, I've been talking about to this to about this to Italians all week for so much that I get the words mixed up in my head.
00:32:46.000So we're gonna talk to Anthony Camilla, a resident Italian over there.
00:32:51.000We don't have a very good connection, so it's gonna be a bit fuzzy, but bear with me here as we talk to Anthony about these stereotypes and if they is offensive or not.
00:35:35.000That scene, see, Italians should look at that scene like African Americans would look at, well, Lordy, Lordy.
00:35:44.000Like, that's on the same lines as, I guess, racially insensitive.
00:35:49.000It's the typical, stereotypical Italian family, the old grandma, the father's hitting the kid the head, the mother, like it's every character in there is a stereotype.
00:36:11.000It just, I feel like saying to everyone else that's offended, though, how about you guys try looking at our stuff just for one minute and you'd see that it's all just comedy, you losers, you pussies?
00:36:23.000Yeah, nothing needs to be taken so seriously that you're watching a movie or anything else that's a form of entertainment and getting offended for your entire race or religion or culture because, you know, you should be able to get the most out of it.
00:36:40.000Like, I found that funny because I've had family members and friends and acquaintances over the course of the years that were exactly like some of Tony Monero's retarded friends.
00:36:51.000So I found it probably funnier than somebody that couldn't really relate to some of those people to get offended by it ludicrous.
00:37:00.000Well, now I'm getting offended on your behalf.
00:37:02.000You know, I've been talking to Italianals about this, and I met a racist one, an anti-Semite, and he goes, you don't get it, man.
00:37:11.000We've been going through this our whole lives.
00:37:14.000He goes, this movie was made by a rich Harvard Jew, Norman Wexler.
00:37:19.000And he goes, you look at all pop culture back then, and it was Henry Winkler being the Fons, or Sean Arnaz Bowser, or he goes, even today with Andrew Dice Clay, we used to bully these nerdy Jewish kids, and then they get revenge by putting on a leather jacket and going, hey, I'm an Italian-bullied moron who beats up Jews.
00:38:59.000He was Indeed, he wasn't even an Indian.
00:39:02.000Well, I think the takeaway from all this is it's fun to take something like this, like Willie the Groundskeeper and Saturday Night Fever, show it to the outrage class, and go, do you have any idea what the rest of us just watch without having a conniption and crying our eyes out?
00:39:21.000I actually am offended when someone comes out and says shows like The Sopranos and movies like Goodfellas and whatnot are so offensive to Italians.
00:39:48.000Right, and there were certain people in your subculture and ancestry that are unbelievably interesting characters that just compel audiences for decade after decade.
00:40:01.000Okay, so your takeaway from all of this is that it's not a very difficult situation.