Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - January 02, 2018


Get Off My Lawn #57 | Last Flight


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The boys are back with a brand new episode of the Proud Boys Podcast. This week, the boys are joined by comedian Michael Malice to discuss a variety of topics, including the recent events at Islamberg, the upcoming 2020 election, and much more.

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00:00:08.000 Proud of your boy, I'll make you proud of your boy.
00:00:15.000 Believe me, as I've been long, you're in for a pleasant surprise.
00:00:22.000 I've been wasting time, I've been wasting me some things from my age.
00:00:31.000 I'll be blue.
00:00:32.000 Okay, I agree.
00:00:35.000 Well, I've been one one kid, some sin, some pride, and some joy. 0.99
00:00:42.000 I've been all these messing up, messing up, stupid up times. 0.99
00:00:50.000 Now comes the better part. 1.00
00:00:52.000 Some good comes the stupid heart. 1.00
00:00:56.000 Make it good and finally make you proud of your boy. 1.00
00:01:03.000 All right.
00:01:05.000 Guys, you gotta go.
00:01:06.000 You gotta go.
00:01:07.000 2020 is happening, believe.
00:01:09.000 You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
00:01:13.000 Great night last night, boys.
00:01:17.000 It's 2018.
00:01:20.000 I haven't been to bed yet.
00:01:22.000 Thanks to my Scottish liver.
00:01:24.000 I'm not even drunk.
00:01:26.000 And that was the song, Proud of Your Boy.
00:01:30.000 I remember someone trying to cast aspersions on Proud Boys, and one of the criticisms was, they love this song that didn't even make it into the musical.
00:01:42.000 Like, someone's going to hear that and go, yeah, we were really pissed off about that.
00:01:47.000 We really wanted that song to get in the musical because we really like Aladdin.
00:01:54.000 It's like when someone calls you gay and thinks it's an insult. 0.98
00:01:57.000 Yeah, those guys are secretly gays. 0.99
00:01:59.000 Okay. 0.99
00:02:00.000 Are we secretly albinos?
00:02:02.000 Are we secretly Sagittarius?
00:02:04.000 Insults are getting so bad these days.
00:02:09.000 I got some chick on Twitter.
00:02:10.000 We went to, the Proud Boys went to Islamberg, and I said, don't go, because I was scared for them.
00:02:17.000 And I said, guys, that's too dangerous.
00:02:19.000 Don't go down there.
00:02:20.000 And that Daniel Uberjibajibaja, the dean of comedy, goes, these Islamophobes are going down to Islamberg to terrorize innocent Muslim families that are just sweethearts.
00:02:32.000 And I said, no, there's real jihadists there.
00:02:36.000 And then later on, this girl wrote an article saying that we're evil Islamophobes and we're terrorizing these poor people.
00:02:43.000 And now it came out about two months later that, yeah, the FBI is investigating them down there.
00:02:50.000 And there is a jihadist cult, was the law enforcement's words.
00:02:55.000 And so I sent that to the writer, and I go, turns out we were right and you were wrong.
00:02:59.000 And she goes, oh yeah?
00:03:00.000 Didn't your wife leave you? 0.98
00:03:05.000 What?
00:03:07.000 I had to run to my bedroom and check.
00:03:09.000 Hey, Bill, you sound like someone is punching a duck in the stomach. 1.00
00:03:12.000 Shut up. 1.00
00:03:14.000 God, why does he have to scream all the time? 1.00
00:03:20.000 I wish insults could be good again. 0.98
00:03:22.000 You know, things like you're an effing tool or your wife left you or you have racist tattoos. 0.96
00:03:30.000 Like, at least make it true. 0.96
00:03:32.000 And then we can have back and forth.
00:03:34.000 Now, one guy who's wonderful at the old back and forth is Mr. Michael Malice.
00:03:39.000 Can we bring Michael Malis to the show?
00:03:40.000 Michael is here.
00:03:41.000 Hi, Michael.
00:03:42.000 How are you?
00:03:43.000 I'm very well.
00:03:44.000 Oh, thank you.
00:03:46.000 Thank you.
00:03:47.000 I usually hear that anyway, but now it's good that it's come from real people.
00:03:51.000 Oh, yeah, you don't have people come to your shows, right?
00:03:53.000 No, no, no, I'm Soviet.
00:03:55.000 You're Soviet? 0.98
00:03:55.000 Yeah. 0.98
00:03:56.000 We don't trust people.
00:03:56.000 What does that mean?
00:03:57.000 We don't trust outsiders. 1.00
00:03:58.000 Well, you're right not to trust people, but you're not there anymore.
00:04:01.000 We don't report things to the state.
00:04:03.000 You can be free now.
00:04:04.000 What about the NSA?
00:04:05.000 What about Twitter?
00:04:07.000 How many people, this is your whole shtick, people losing their jobs all the time.
00:04:10.000 So you think it's as bad as Russia here? 0.95
00:04:13.000 It's on the way, yeah.
00:04:14.000 In some ways.
00:04:15.000 They're trying to make it as bad as Russia. 0.99
00:04:16.000 Well, that's because the people you're talking about are communists.
00:04:20.000 I don't know what the communists per se, but they're certainly totalitarian.
00:04:23.000 Maybe I got the wrong idea when I saw their giant flags that had hammers and sickles on them.
00:04:27.000 Well, I don't think all those white nationalists are literally Nazis either.
00:04:32.000 Yeah, but they say they're not Nazis.
00:04:34.000 And these people don't say they're communists.
00:04:34.000 Right.
00:04:36.000 Yes, they do.
00:04:37.000 In fact, they have a saying, full communism.
00:04:39.000 That's not a saying, really.
00:04:41.000 That is.
00:04:42.000 That's not a saying.
00:04:43.000 It's just like an extra.
00:04:44.000 It's like a slogan.
00:04:45.000 No, no, they use it all the time.
00:04:47.000 In fact, there's some band that just put out an album called Full Communism.
00:04:50.000 See, I can't fully attack them because my favorite slogan of theirs is liberals get the bullet too.
00:04:56.000 And what does that mean?
00:04:57.000 It means you lefties aren't safe.
00:05:00.000 We're going up against the wall just with the right.
00:05:03.000 Who says it's communists?
00:05:04.000 The Antifas, yeah.
00:05:05.000 Oh, I see.
00:05:06.000 I see what you're saying.
00:05:07.000 Yeah, downtown boys.
00:05:09.000 Oh, check.
00:05:10.000 So you're saying that Antifa hates liberals too. 0.94
00:05:13.000 Yeah, they hate them. 0.99
00:05:13.000 They hate them. 0.99
00:05:14.000 They hate the SPLC.
00:05:16.000 Well, I mean, and they hate them because it's like Hillary Clinton is such, as an example, what they hate, she is a puppet of the corporations, just like Mitt Romney.
00:05:23.000 So if they're anti-corporate, right, which they are, she's clearly going to be what they're against because she's co-opting the left in service to big business. 0.99
00:05:31.000 You're really diving into it.
00:05:32.000 It's the first day of 2018.
00:05:34.000 We just had New Year's Eve last night.
00:05:35.000 Yeah, well, I don't drink it.
00:05:36.000 And you don't drink at all.
00:05:38.000 Well, you guys, but all you guys do is drink.
00:05:40.000 That's like a Scotsman not playing the bagpipes.
00:05:43.000 I wouldn't know about that.
00:05:46.000 It's true.
00:05:46.000 There is a lot of drinking in Russia.
00:05:48.000 Yeah, they carry around, they drink like this.
00:05:50.000 They'll just have a large glass of vodka.
00:05:52.000 Yeah, Russians, yeah, and there's a lot of fighting because of a lot of the drinking. 0.97
00:05:57.000 And it's freezing cold, and it's communist.
00:06:00.000 No thanks.
00:06:01.000 I'm here.
00:06:02.000 H-E-R-E. 0.99
00:06:03.000 Not interested.
00:06:05.000 But to get back to what you're saying about Antifa, I know you're a fervent anarchist who even thinks libertarians are not even close to good enough.
00:06:12.000 I wouldn't say that.
00:06:13.000 I think I heard you say they're the worst people alive.
00:06:16.000 No, no, no, no. 0.98
00:06:17.000 I would say neocons are the worst. 0.83
00:06:20.000 Oh, okay. 0.91
00:06:21.000 I always say conservatism is the vilest political philosophy.
00:06:23.000 It depends what you mean by libertarian.
00:06:25.000 I mean, you're libertarian. 0.76
00:06:26.000 So I guess in that sense, they are the worst people alive.
00:06:28.000 But then there's other libertarians who are actually Decent.
00:06:31.000 Well, I think if we're talking about political spectrums, I'm somewhere past libertarian, towards anarchy.
00:06:36.000 If you're talking about spectrum, that means autism, which means libertarian.
00:06:41.000 But what disturbs me about your anti-fuss slogans is as a strident anarchist, I think you have some sympathy.
00:06:48.000 I think you kind of like them deep down.
00:06:50.000 I like that they're exposing the left for what they are.
00:06:53.000 What?
00:06:54.000 Because the left has this veneer of civility, that we're the good guys.
00:06:58.000 We're all in agreement.
00:07:00.000 It's just smeltering is all.
00:07:01.000 It's just we're all good guys.
00:07:03.000 You know, we're passing these laws with the consensus of the majority.
00:07:06.000 And Antifa is showing what happens when you defy these people. 0.92
00:07:09.000 The mask drops and they're savages.
00:07:12.000 Who?
00:07:12.000 The left.
00:07:14.000 So Antifa.
00:07:15.000 Antifa is what the left really is.
00:07:17.000 Oh, so I'm caught up now.
00:07:20.000 So you're saying you like Antifa because they're a great example of what horrible people are.
00:07:25.000 I wouldn't say I like Antifa, but they serve a purpose.
00:07:28.000 They are an educational example of, yeah, this is what leftism really means.
00:07:31.000 Ah, okay.
00:07:32.000 So do you think that they're anarchists?
00:07:35.000 They call themselves anarchists, but they're also very big on like estate taxes and, you know, socialized medicine.
00:07:40.000 So that's not really what anarchism is.
00:07:42.000 Well, they also say, I'm a communist.
00:07:43.000 And they don't see any problem supporting communism and anarchy at the same time.
00:07:47.000 There were many communist anarchists, like Emma Goldman, and there was a whole school of anarchist communism, Kropotkin.
00:07:53.000 I never really understood that.
00:07:54.000 Because it makes no sense in real life.
00:07:57.000 Absolutely crazy.
00:07:58.000 And the idea that basically everyone is voluntarily going to get along voluntarily, which is how no animal works, let alone humans.
00:08:06.000 Well, that is, I think, a big problem with the left, is this obsession with hypotheticals. 0.97
00:08:10.000 And we all have to dwell, we're all these philosopher kings in academia, like the cake crap, right? 0.98
00:08:15.000 Oh, God, yeah. 1.00
00:08:16.000 If you're baking cakes for people, you have to bake cakes for gays. 1.00
00:08:19.000 Because if you're supplying things to people, you have to supply them to everyone.
00:08:22.000 You can't discriminate. 0.75
00:08:23.000 And you go, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that.
00:08:25.000 But it's just a cake.
00:08:25.000 And you're right.
00:08:26.000 Shut up, okay? 0.99
00:08:27.000 Go get it together. 1.00
00:08:28.000 I don't get about the cake example. 0.99
00:08:29.000 If you're a gay marriage, why the f ⁇ aren't you going to a gay baker? 0.97
00:08:33.000 Because you know the cake's going to be made prettier. 1.00
00:08:35.000 That straight baker is going to do a sh ⁇ job. 1.00
00:08:38.000 And you know they have bakery. 0.66
00:08:39.000 Watch your language, please.
00:08:40.000 We don't have swearing on this.
00:08:41.000 That's CR-TV, not your compound media run by a shock jock.
00:08:41.000 Sorry.
00:08:41.000 Okay.
00:08:47.000 I'm sorry.
00:08:48.000 I'm trying to shock anyone here.
00:08:50.000 It was all triggered.
00:08:52.000 Well, they clearly go to these bakeries because they want drama, and it is more of the reigning hypothetical class.
00:09:01.000 Like even Bill Schultz, who was just on my show many days ago, and he was talking about the fact that I'm against the Islamification of Britain. 0.94
00:09:10.000 And he goes, yeah, that's starting to sound racist.
00:09:13.000 And they have all this, like, that could lead to this.
00:09:15.000 And it's all maybe's.
00:09:17.000 And you think, can you just put your boots on the actual ground and walk to a different baker and shut up?
00:09:22.000 Well, I think there's also something with the left where being a victim is a sign of like a rite of passage.
00:09:27.000 So that way, if part of your wedding, you were kind of part of an oppressed minority and you have something to show for it, this makes a great wedding story.
00:09:34.000 Yeah, it does.
00:09:35.000 I think also, too, Chadwick.
00:09:37.000 I think about it. 0.68
00:09:37.000 I'm sorry to interrupt you, but like 10 years ago, you can't get gay married. 0.68
00:09:40.000 Now it's like, okay, where am I going to find my oppression, you know, vis-a-vis my marriage?
00:09:44.000 The cake.
00:09:44.000 It's got to be the cake.
00:09:45.000 It's not going to be the guest list.
00:09:47.000 Yeah.
00:09:48.000 Well, Chadwick Moore, do you know who he is?
00:09:50.000 So he was on Tucker and he dared to say gays aren't political.
00:09:53.000 And that's been my experience.
00:09:55.000 You know, if you're known as a, like, say you were Richard Spencer and you walked into a hipster bar. 0.98
00:10:01.000 Have my nipples showing? 0.99
00:10:03.000 You walked into a hipster bar, everyone would have a heart attack. 1.00
00:10:07.000 But if you walked into a black bar in Harlem and you're Richard Spencer, people would be like, hey, what's up? 0.75
00:10:11.000 Like they have no idea who he is because it's a very white thing, all this stuff. 0.96
00:10:16.000 And I don't think this political bitching is a very gay thing. 1.00
00:10:19.000 I think the people who got like Brendan Icke fired, they're a tiny contingent of WASP who are annoying. 1.00
00:10:25.000 No, it's a WASP thing. 1.00
00:10:26.000 And as different groups try to adopt, I talk about this in my forthcoming book, as different groups try to adopt white culture, WASP culture, this is what they do. 0.56
00:10:34.000 This is why the Jews out WASP the WASPs. 1.00
00:10:36.000 Oh, that's an interesting theory.
00:10:37.000 I'm glad you brought it up so I don't get in trouble for bringing it up.
00:10:40.000 You're still going to get in trouble.
00:10:41.000 Jewish guy brought this up, okay? 0.51
00:10:42.000 SPLC.
00:10:43.000 It reminds me of another Jewish guy who said, I go, why do Jews hate Trump? 1.00
00:10:48.000 All of his kids who can legally have sex are having sex with Jews right now. 1.00
00:10:51.000 Well, married to Jews, yes. 1.00
00:10:53.000 You know that joke?
00:10:54.000 One-year-old isn't.
00:10:54.000 What's the difference between Donald Trump and the typical New York City Jew?
00:10:58.000 if he has Jewish grandchildren.
00:11:00.000 And Ivanka went It's just weird.
00:11:06.000 It's like a howdy-doody thing with the laugh track.
00:11:09.000 Am I supposed to say Bazinga?
00:11:12.000 Okay, see, this is why I don't have the laugh track off here.
00:11:12.000 That one didn't work.
00:11:14.000 Well, maybe if you stopped inhaling helium so much, you wouldn't feel like you were on a children's show.
00:11:18.000 Sorry.
00:11:20.000 Ivanka went way more Jewish than most Jews.
00:11:27.000 You've got to study the Torah and go through all these tests and everything. 0.94
00:11:31.000 And he said to me, he goes, the reason that my father hates Trump and everyone in our community is they're trying to be wasps.
00:11:40.000 And they think it's waspy to hate Trump.
00:11:42.000 So they ignore the pro-Israel stuff.
00:11:43.000 They ignore the pro-Jew stuff.
00:11:45.000 And they go, we hate him too.
00:11:46.000 Look about the early 20th century. 0.99
00:11:47.000 You had all the German Jews who were highfalutin, and then you had the Jews coming into the ghetto who were ghetto trash. 1.00
00:11:53.000 It's very similar, like bougie blacks and ghetto blacks, right? 1.00
00:11:55.000 And they're like, oh, we're not like them. 1.00
00:11:57.000 And they did everything they could to arm's length and say, like, we are the good guys, and they're trash. 0.91
00:12:01.000 They have nothing to do with us. 0.99
00:12:02.000 You see the same thing with whites in the South. 1.00
00:12:04.000 It's like, we're the good whites, we're in the North, but the South, oh, those people are trash. 1.00
00:12:08.000 Every racist stereotype that they used to have towards Southern blacks now just went to Southern whites. 0.99
00:12:12.000 There's a great book about this called Good White People by this woman, Shannon Sullivan, who's a college professor, who's very left.
00:12:17.000 And she goes, all you did is just switch, and she quotes Jim Goat at length.
00:12:20.000 She goes, all you did was just take all these racist tropes about blacks. 0.99
00:12:22.000 They're subhuman, they're inbred, they're lazy, they're illiterate, and now you just put them to southern whites, and you didn't bat an eye. 0.99
00:12:28.000 And you're somehow you're the good guys. 0.99
00:12:29.000 Well, I think political correctness is classism.
00:12:33.000 No, no, it's people of color this year.
00:12:33.000 Oh, yes, absolutely.
00:12:36.000 It was African-American last year. 0.94
00:12:38.000 It was black, it was Negro. 1.00
00:12:39.000 And the working class is meant to constantly look up to the upper class academics and say, what do I call them this year?
00:12:46.000 How should I speak?
00:12:46.000 What should I do, master?
00:12:48.000 Well, also, like the Harlem Renaissance in the 20s, was it Langston Hughes, I think, who talked about when the Negro was in vogue.
00:12:54.000 The Harlem Renaissance wasn't that all of a sudden blacks were created.
00:12:56.000 It was that all of a sudden that Manhattan whites recognized them. 0.81
00:13:00.000 And then when the Depression hit, they all went in the trash, and they didn't lose any sleep over it. 0.96
00:13:03.000 And these poor black people, like Zorneal Hurston, had to become a maid. 1.00
00:13:07.000 So this is very much, all of cultural history in America, very heavily skewed toward an urban wasp prism. 0.65
00:13:15.000 And then people who are trying to be wasps.
00:13:18.000 Well, what you're saying.
00:13:19.000 And again, it's like, these are not our kind of people, like that kind of thing.
00:13:22.000 This is not our kind of music, not our kind of language.
00:13:24.000 These are all like puritanical approaches to culture, language, and communication.
00:13:28.000 It's pretty heavy for people that are hungover.
00:13:31.000 But I think what you're doing, too, is saying it's an anti-eugenics argument in a sense.
00:13:35.000 And you're saying these people who are wherever they are are not there because they're genetically born that way.
00:13:40.000 There's a latent classism that permeates everything.
00:13:43.000 And it's not black versus white, it's rich versus poor.
00:13:46.000 That's what Jim Goad was saying.
00:13:46.000 Yeah.
00:13:47.000 Absolutely.
00:13:48.000 Redneck Manifesto, although I think he's backpedaled, not backpedaled, but he's evolved on that point a little bit.
00:13:54.000 I mean, it's a little more complicated than that, but I mean, you see how people, I mean, you have different groups and they go to college and they're all talking the same way.
00:14:02.000 And it's that same sneer, you know, clutching at pearls, disdain, like I'm the good guy.
00:14:07.000 It's not like I disagree with you or whatever. 0.92
00:14:09.000 It's like I'm the good guy here to tell you who's trash, how to act and how to behave. 1.00
00:14:14.000 And it also gets so dehumanizing that it's okay to kill these people. 0.99
00:14:18.000 Like when you, they keep saying Trump's Nazis, everyone likes him as Hitler. 1.00
00:14:23.000 Republicans are evil, Nazis, Nazis, Nazis. 1.00
00:14:25.000 And the next thing you know, it's good for you to kill them. 1.00
00:14:27.000 You're preventing World War III. 0.99
00:14:29.000 And I keep going back to what Lauren Southern saw in Berkeley, where she saw them grabbing MAGA guys, and she saw Antifa with plastic bags trying to get them over their heads.
00:14:38.000 Jesus Christ.
00:14:39.000 And look at Roger Ills when he was, the body was still warm.
00:14:42.000 They were all dancing on his grave, screaming.
00:14:45.000 They have dehumanized the left to the point where if I died tomorrow, there'd be memes and it would be funny jokes everywhere.
00:14:51.000 It would be pretty funny.
00:14:52.000 It's funny.
00:14:53.000 No, the left can't meme.
00:14:54.000 They'd be terrible.
00:14:55.000 I know, but I could do a pretty good job of it.
00:14:56.000 would you do?
00:14:57.000 I would put, well, I'm not going to say, but you know whenever people die on, When people die, I always put up a fake photo with a fake quote on Twitter.
00:15:05.000 Like, for example, when Nelson Mandela died, right?
00:15:08.000 I did on my Facebook, Rest in Peace, Nelson Mandela, Liberator of South America, with a picture of Desmond Tutu.
00:15:13.000 And then everyone started befriending me.
00:15:14.000 They're like, oh, my God, da-da-da-da.
00:15:16.000 So I do that for everyone who dies.
00:15:18.000 So you would get maybe a picture of Donald Sutherland with AIDS and say, goodnight, Sweet Prince?
00:15:24.000 I don't know about that.
00:15:25.000 I'll tell you during the commercial break.
00:15:26.000 Well, the reason I bring it up, though, is when you dehumanize these people, it becomes, I'm the one who gets dehumanized.
00:15:34.000 So I don't like it.
00:15:35.000 I don't want to be stabbed.
00:15:36.000 And then no one peels back the layers and goes, what is the origin of this?
00:15:40.000 Like with the Jewish thing, the country clubs. 1.00
00:15:42.000 Yes.
00:15:42.000 The rumor was always, like Sarah Silverman would say, if you're a member of a country club that doesn't allow Jews, it's like you're a member of a group that has secret clan members or something.
00:15:53.000 You shouldn't do that.
00:15:54.000 And I thought, that's a valid point.
00:15:55.000 Okay, it would be weird.
00:15:56.000 Like, can I bring Michael Malice with me to the country club?
00:16:00.000 No.
00:16:01.000 And then Steve Saylor checks it out.
00:16:04.000 And obviously it's not true today anywhere.
00:16:06.000 But he checked it out in the 50s and he discovered, wait a minute, these Jews who were being rejected from country clubs were being rejected from Jewish country clubs.
00:16:14.000 Yes.
00:16:14.000 It was Eastern European Jews who weren't allowed in Western Europe.
00:16:19.000 And Jewish clubs and WASPI clubs, they didn't really want to go to the other one.
00:16:22.000 Because you go to the Jewish country club, this is Sailor talking. 0.91
00:16:25.000 He said it's just schlatkas and vlodkas and 10 million different fish type things and then one bottle of booze at the end if you insist.
00:16:33.000 And then you go to the WASP one and it's just like rows and rows of bottles with like a bun.
00:16:39.000 Same with blacks and groups like Lynx. 1.00
00:16:40.000 They have something called the paperbag test.
00:16:42.000 They used to have back in the day.
00:16:43.000 If you were darker than a paper bag, you couldn't join.
00:16:45.000 I'm not making this up.
00:16:47.000 I mean, I learned this working with D.L. Hughley.
00:16:49.000 Like, this was a slow thing in black culture, colorism. 0.91
00:16:52.000 And when you hear about it, like our people on the right, they think, oh, black people are just always complaining.
00:16:56.000 No, no, no, this has been a thing for a very long time, even during slavery.
00:17:00.000 I mean, compare how you would carry yourself to your freed black who's educated versus a slave in chain. 0.94
00:17:05.000 Oh, I wouldn't even let them touch me.
00:17:06.000 Yeah, it's like I'm nothing to do with those people.
00:17:08.000 I'm one of you.
00:17:09.000 I'm, you know, I'm the elite.
00:17:10.000 Yeah, I remember Sarush Alvi, the guy I started Vice with, we would go to Costa Rica in the summers, and he was Pakistani. 0.92
00:17:18.000 He'd come back, and he'd be much darker, like anyone would care. 0.99
00:17:21.000 And his mother, who is a really smart academic, she's a professor, she would be beside herself.
00:17:27.000 Sarush, what are you doing?
00:17:28.000 You have sunscreen available to you. 1.00
00:17:30.000 You're basically black as coal. 0.99
00:17:33.000 I went Jamaican at the end. 1.00
00:17:35.000 Magwan! 0.93
00:17:36.000 So did he.
00:17:38.000 So it's perfectly appropriate.
00:17:40.000 Have you seen Sammy Sosa recently?
00:17:42.000 Oh, God, yeah.
00:17:43.000 See if you can dig up a picture.
00:17:44.000 He's a ghost.
00:17:45.000 That is so disturbing.
00:17:46.000 Now, did he do his whole body, I want to know?
00:17:48.000 No, I don't.
00:17:49.000 My wife said that. 1.00
00:17:50.000 She goes, what does his penis look like? 1.00
00:17:51.000 Because it'd be so weird to be naked with the guy, and he has a white head and white hands. 1.00
00:17:56.000 There's a white elephant sale to be made, joke here to be made, and I don't know what it is. 0.92
00:18:00.000 There he is.
00:18:01.000 Look at him.
00:18:01.000 It's sad.
00:18:02.000 But you see this, anyone who's traveled everywhere you go, I'm not just talking about dark countries like Jamaica and India, but even in Southeast Asia.
00:18:12.000 Do you see these ads for whitening cream everywhere?
00:18:15.000 In Japan.
00:18:15.000 In Japan they want to be whiter.
00:18:17.000 They're dark in Japan.
00:18:18.000 Yeah, you want to be pearl-colored.
00:18:20.000 Which is weird because who are you separating yourself from?
00:18:22.000 There's no one in Japan but Japanese. 0.99
00:18:24.000 I guess they have like three Southeast Asians. 0.67
00:18:27.000 Yeah, but that's the whole thing.
00:18:28.000 It's a classism.
00:18:29.000 You have a status.
00:18:30.000 No matter what group you have, you're going to have a hierarchy.
00:18:35.000 This is what the anarchists and communists didn't get.
00:18:37.000 They think once you get rid of the government, everyone's going to be the same.
00:18:40.000 It's like, literally, the term pecking order comes from chickens.
00:18:43.000 So even birds know to establish a pecking order.
00:18:45.000 I used to have aquariums, right?
00:18:47.000 And I had five fish in my tank from each different ocean.
00:18:49.000 It just worked out that way. 0.99
00:18:50.000 And they fucking figured out who's going to eat first. 0.97
00:18:53.000 So you're always going to have an order, and they think this order is imposed when it's perfectly natural and inevitable. 0.98
00:18:59.000 Is it possible, though, Michael, that some people are just superior?
00:19:04.000 Like Sean Lennon.
00:19:04.000 Yes.
00:19:05.000 I've hung out with him a few times.
00:19:06.000 Jeez.
00:19:07.000 Did you ever give him a copy of Catcher in the Rise a joke?
00:19:11.000 No.
00:19:11.000 And I don't like that joke.
00:19:14.000 Soon?
00:19:16.000 What's that joke about how do you get a Beatles reunion, two more bullets?
00:19:19.000 Yeah.
00:19:20.000 You like the Beatles, Grandpa?
00:19:22.000 I hate the Beatles.
00:19:22.000 No, no.
00:19:23.000 I'm not a fan at all.
00:19:24.000 But you're straying from my point, and I'm so selfish that that's why I'm not.
00:19:27.000 Ah, fair.
00:19:28.000 Point-conceited.
00:19:29.000 I'm not getting the attention I want.
00:19:31.000 This is to be the issue here.
00:19:33.000 But his mother comes from a long line of samurais, and he's an incredibly intelligent person.
00:19:39.000 She's not trolling you.
00:19:40.000 Maybe.
00:19:42.000 It's possible that is also proof that he's better than me.
00:19:45.000 He's trolling me.
00:19:46.000 So whether his comes from a long line of samurais or he doesn't, I believed it, and that's still my point. 0.78
00:19:51.000 and I don't know, I think sometimes maybe you're special.
00:19:54.000 Yes, like the Knights of Columbus, the Masons, they all have their groups, but there's I've heard that there are these sort of elite things where they go, yeah, he's chosen.
00:20:04.000 Yeah.
00:20:04.000 And then you go meet at a different thing.
00:20:06.000 Like the Proud Boys.
00:20:07.000 We have a separate meeting at this giant hall with seven guys that there's gold walls, and you have to push a bookcase, you go like this, and is that the where you guys pee at each other's mouths?
00:20:19.000 I don't like it phrased like that.
00:20:20.000 It's called fluid sharing.
00:20:24.000 Proud Fountains.
00:20:25.000 I don't know how that got out.
00:20:26.000 Proud Fountains. 0.93
00:20:27.000 Someone's going to die.
00:20:28.000 They talk about it at Bohemian Grove. 0.99
00:20:28.000 You just killed someone. 0.99
00:20:30.000 We're going to go through the tapes now.
00:20:31.000 They talk about at Bohemian Grove.
00:20:33.000 Bohemian Grove.
00:20:34.000 Do you believe Bohemian Grove is remotely controversial?
00:20:37.000 Yes.
00:20:38.000 Keep steady.
00:20:39.000 100% because you saw when Alex Jones confronted David Gergen.
00:20:42.000 Did you not see this footage?
00:20:44.000 I've heard of this footage.
00:20:45.000 No, no, if you watch it, it's not possible to watch this footage and think, oh, okay, nothing's going on.
00:20:51.000 Okay, can you look up David Gherkin, Alex Jones, Bohemian Grove?
00:20:56.000 I believe, before, and I haven't seen this yet, I believe Bohemian Grove is just a bunch of rich, powerful people who hang out and drink and tell dirty jokes. 0.98
00:21:04.000 Maybe get prostitutes. 1.00
00:21:05.000 I believe that too. 0.99
00:21:06.000 I think a lot of this conspiracy stuff is crap, and it's just like, it sounds cool because you can't see it. 0.98
00:21:09.000 And then you go there, you're like, oh, this is lame. 0.98
00:21:11.000 Yeah, I've been trying to get in.
00:21:12.000 No, no, no.
00:21:13.000 Then you watch this and you're like, okay, something really crazy is going on.
00:21:18.000 Is this a three-hour interview?
00:21:20.000 It's like two minutes, literally.
00:21:21.000 The worst font.
00:21:22.000 I think it's from 1990.
00:21:26.000 David Gerd, top presidential advisor to Ford, raving your mouse.
00:21:31.000 You could cut to the interview.
00:21:36.000 I know someone who goes to Bohemian Grove.
00:21:39.000 No, who?
00:21:39.000 You know who?
00:21:40.000 Marshall Bell.
00:21:42.000 Who's that?
00:21:42.000 He's the dad in Stand By Me.
00:21:44.000 He's the guy who has Quado come out of his belly.
00:21:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:48.000 And he goes, yeah, we just sit around, drink whiskey, and tell fart jokes.
00:21:51.000 I would think so until I watched this.
00:21:54.000 And this was like, whoa.
00:21:56.000 There's a look on his face.
00:21:57.000 Be clear, folks at home, we are just discussing this subject.
00:21:59.000 I'm not saying that Bohemian Grove.
00:22:01.000 I don't want to be, I don't want this show to become crackpot flat earth society.
00:22:06.000 That ship has sailed.
00:22:09.000 But let me be clear.
00:22:10.000 I don't want anyone to know yet.
00:22:11.000 I'm trying to delay my inevitable firing.
00:22:14.000 Did you crash it?
00:22:15.000 Yes.
00:22:15.000 Yeah, and it has no trespassing signs there, too, doesn't it?
00:22:18.000 No, they put me right after.
00:22:19.000 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:22:20.000 I'm sorry, sir.
00:22:20.000 I've been there before.
00:22:21.000 I know what the circumstances are, and I'm sorry you violated the understandings.
00:22:25.000 That was not a gentlemanly thing to do.
00:22:27.000 What about the ritual?
00:22:28.000 Is the ritual gentlemanly?
00:22:32.000 It's titanium that Alex Jones got of the behavior grove.
00:22:35.000 Okay.
00:22:37.000 Sir, everything.
00:22:39.000 I don't owe you this comment.
00:22:42.000 This is what's called ambush journalism, and I disrespect you for that as well. 0.99
00:22:46.000 So thank you for that's none of your damn business. 0.99
00:22:50.000 Oh, that's your smoking gun. 0.99
00:22:53.000 This is a guy who's a presidential advisor.
00:22:56.000 You can make understandings with people and violate them.
00:22:59.000 You ambush people on the streets, and that's inappropriate form of journalism.
00:23:03.000 If you wish to practice that, that's fine.
00:23:05.000 But don't ask others to respect you for it.
00:23:08.000 You're free American like anything you want.
00:23:08.000 You can do it.
00:23:10.000 If you want to be uncivil and rude and ungentlemanly, that's up to you.
00:23:13.000 But don't expect the rest of us to say, oh, well, you're a man.
00:23:16.000 I'm sorry.
00:23:17.000 Nobody says policy in there.
00:23:18.000 We try to be gentlemen, and obviously...
00:23:22.000 We've been spotted with the city.
00:23:23.000 You're telling me that if you got stopped in the street, you'd ever react like that?
00:23:27.000 Yes, I would react like that. 0.99
00:23:29.000 If you asked me about Proud Boys' rituals, I'd say, you're goddamn rude. 0.99
00:23:33.000 You don't come up to me on the street. 0.99
00:23:36.000 Young man, I am trying to go about my day.
00:23:38.000 I'm trying to do my television show. 1.00
00:23:40.000 And I got you here with the microphone in my face like a goddamn miscreant. 1.00
00:23:46.000 I thought that was very out of character for Gergen. 0.99
00:23:49.000 And I thought it was.
00:23:50.000 I think there are rituals there.
00:23:52.000 I think that's harmless.
00:23:53.000 The know-nothings, the odd fellows, the Knights of Columbus, everyone has rituals.
00:23:57.000 It's a guy thing.
00:23:58.000 You don't sacrifice a baby.
00:23:58.000 Oh, I agree.
00:24:00.000 I'm not saying that they do either, but I'm saying I think there's something to it.
00:24:04.000 That's it.
00:24:04.000 Something weird.
00:24:05.000 Rituals could be weird in and of themselves, don't you agree?
00:24:07.000 That is the least smoky smoking gun I've ever seen in my life.
00:24:10.000 Okay.
00:24:11.000 The rumors of Bohemian Grove is that like major world leaders meet there and they plan with the Fed and then the bank and the military industrial complex and just a bunch of rich guys, I don't know, burning a log and putting on a funny suit.
00:24:26.000 Yeah.
00:24:27.000 But that's weird.
00:24:28.000 It sounds fun.
00:24:30.000 It's gonna be both.
00:24:31.000 Weird is fun often.
00:24:32.000 I want to go.
00:24:32.000 I want to be in groups.
00:24:35.000 Like I want to go to Rayo's.
00:24:37.000 You know the pasta sauce?
00:24:39.000 What?
00:24:40.000 Rayo's is this Italian restaurant and it seats like 13 people.
00:24:44.000 How do you pronounce that word?
00:24:46.000 You say it like a yolk lamp.
00:24:46.000 I don't know.
00:24:47.000 You said like British pasta.
00:24:48.000 R-A-O. 1.00
00:24:49.000 Oh, pasta.
00:24:50.000 Pasta.
00:24:50.000 Sorry.
00:24:51.000 Yeah, pasta.
00:24:53.000 My kids always make fun of me.
00:24:54.000 That's one of my final Canadian hangings on.
00:24:58.000 And Antarctica.
00:25:00.000 What is it?
00:25:01.000 Antarctica.
00:25:02.000 Oh, see, we pronounce the words better.
00:25:04.000 Sure.
00:25:05.000 Say pasta.
00:25:06.000 It's an A. It's not pasta.
00:25:08.000 That's also an A. Pa?
00:25:12.000 Yeah, I guess so.
00:25:12.000 Like paw?
00:25:13.000 Monkey's paw?
00:25:14.000 Yeah, okay, you won.
00:25:15.000 You won this round.
00:25:17.000 We can clip that.
00:25:18.000 Michael Malice obliterates Gavin McInnes in debate about the letter A. Completely destroys.
00:25:27.000 That's like these Finkton Post betas.
00:25:29.000 The only time they get any action is with the Finkton Post.
00:25:32.000 Eviscerates.
00:25:33.000 You're like, what?
00:25:35.000 Poor Jon Stewart, his entrails are hanging out?
00:25:37.000 You're going to get an infection.
00:25:39.000 How do they do that?
00:25:40.000 Oh, and then you watch it.
00:25:42.000 I saw one recently.
00:25:43.000 It was like, Greg Guttfeld destroys, eats alive, Patton Oswalt.
00:25:49.000 And you read it and you're like, man, you're both kind of right.
00:25:52.000 That was funny, that Twitter war.
00:25:53.000 Yeah, but I don't think Greg Guttfeld was the victor.
00:25:56.000 No, I think they were both like, eh, eh, eh.
00:25:58.000 Yeah.
00:25:58.000 Yeah.
00:26:00.000 Now you've interrupted me so many times.
00:26:02.000 Pasta, you're talking about pasta and then sauce.
00:26:06.000 Yes.
00:26:07.000 So Rayo's Italian restaurant.
00:26:10.000 It's this Italian restaurant where the top, top elite, elite, elite, sort of like Bohemian Grove, they get a seat there and you get a seat maybe once every four months and it's they choose you, they choose the customers and it's a huge honor to be there.
00:26:23.000 They don't make any money from the restaurant.
00:26:25.000 They just license the pasta sauce and that's a giant factory that does it. 0.56
00:26:28.000 But getting in that restaurant is a huge deal and I am getting in there just because I want to get in there.
00:26:34.000 Like I want to go to Bohemian Grove.
00:26:35.000 I want to be at Rayo's.
00:26:36.000 I'm not saying I want to be like I want to have a Gucci purse or anything.
00:26:39.000 I just like want to be in the club and then look around.
00:26:42.000 But don't you remember before your book came out, you thought to yourself, your first book, wow, once I have a book out, it's going to change my life forever.
00:26:50.000 And then it's such a non-issue.
00:26:50.000 It's going to be so awesome.
00:26:53.000 I'm not looking for a life change.
00:26:53.000 No, it's not that.
00:26:55.000 I just want to be in that room.
00:26:56.000 Like I want to be in this club and that club and this club and have the cards collected in my wallet.
00:27:01.000 Okay.
00:27:02.000 I get it.
00:27:03.000 Like New York Athletic Club.
00:27:05.000 I thought, I want to get in there.
00:27:06.000 How much is it?
00:27:07.000 It's about 50 grand.
00:27:11.000 I'm Scottish.
00:27:12.000 Yeah.
00:27:13.000 500 bucks would piss me off.
00:27:15.000 Yeah.
00:27:15.000 And but it was good for business and advertising to know people there and you keep meeting clients.
00:27:19.000 You paid it?
00:27:20.000 Well, what it did was I flew the whole company to Montreal.
00:27:25.000 We joined the Montreal Athletic Club for about $200 each.
00:27:29.000 Oh my God.
00:27:30.000 And then we flew back and all you have to do is call like a day in advance and go, hey, we're going to be in New York for the day.
00:27:39.000 And we're wondering if we can come to the New York Athletic Club.
00:27:43.000 And they'd go, sure, weird frog.
00:27:46.000 So your next tattoo has to be a number on your forearm because that's the most Jewish thing I've ever. 1.00
00:27:51.000 You guys are nothing with cheap. 0.98
00:27:53.000 And I'm sick of Jews saying they're cheap. 0.97
00:27:56.000 Let's just edit their dreams. 0.99
00:27:57.000 Can we just edit it?
00:27:58.000 I'm sick of juice.
00:27:59.000 My hand, too, was kind of...
00:28:00.000 You can...
00:28:04.000 It's a nice gift, like Laura Ingram, and she's like waving at people and they just stop it like there.
00:28:09.000 I can't.
00:28:09.000 I've already used my limit on those.
00:28:11.000 Even when I discuss Z. Kyle, I go like this.
00:28:14.000 Like, my brother's name's Kyle.
00:28:16.000 And if people say, hey, man, Kyle's in trouble.
00:28:19.000 Did you see Kyle?
00:28:20.000 And I'll go, no.
00:28:22.000 And they'll go, what?
00:28:23.000 Because he's going to die if you don't tell me where he is.
00:28:25.000 I did not see Kyle.
00:28:27.000 And then my poor brother will starve to death or get stuck in a manhole because I don't want to say I see Kyle.
00:28:34.000 He's in an attic and he's very hungry.
00:28:36.000 Not my brother.
00:28:36.000 We have a sandwich to give him.
00:28:38.000 Did you see Kyle?
00:28:40.000 No! 1.00
00:28:41.000 Okay, I guess I'll throw it in the garbage and let him starve. 0.99
00:28:46.000 Sorry, buddy. 0.99
00:28:47.000 It's not worth it.
00:28:48.000 I blame FDR.
00:28:50.000 Really?
00:28:51.000 The New Deal?
00:28:52.000 The joke would be it's his fault for not saving your brother.
00:28:56.000 Too soon?
00:28:57.000 I don't get it.
00:28:57.000 Would you like a Japanese concentration camp joke instead?
00:29:00.000 Would that be better?
00:29:01.000 Yeah.
00:29:02.000 Well, I don't have one.
00:29:03.000 Oh, wow.
00:29:04.000 That was one of the worst lulls in the history of the show.
00:29:08.000 I do bring the lulls.
00:29:09.000 Thank you.
00:29:11.000 L-U-L.
00:29:14.000 We're running out of time here.
00:29:16.000 But we covered so much ground.
00:29:18.000 We have covered a lot of ground, I think.
00:29:19.000 No, I think the Bahamian Grove thing, I don't care about, but I really think it's an interesting question to look at this fundamental classism that America thinks they've avoided.
00:29:31.000 Because in Britain, obviously, you have the, hello, how are you?
00:29:34.000 And that's that class.
00:29:35.000 And no one who talks like that is ever going to be at party with that guy.
00:29:38.000 And America goes, we don't have that stuff.
00:29:40.000 But you see these inklings of it.
00:29:42.000 And I think political correctness is an example.
00:29:43.000 You see bumper stickers that say, my boy's at Harvard or UMass or some good school.
00:29:50.000 And that's their sort of...
00:29:53.000 And I'm not joking. 0.82
00:29:54.000 So it's very much this, going back to Cotton Mather and the witch hunts, this is a puritanical, white, waspy domination of culture. 0.94
00:30:02.000 And like, this is what you look like.
00:30:04.000 This is what music you listen to.
00:30:05.000 This is how you talk.
00:30:06.000 These are the shows you watch.
00:30:07.000 These are your politics.
00:30:08.000 You have a box.
00:30:08.000 You could have slightly left-wing version, which is the conservatives.
00:30:11.000 You got the left-wing version, which is the Democrats.
00:30:13.000 Anything out of this box, you're wrong and bad in Beneath Us.
00:30:16.000 Yeah, Beneath Us is the big one, too.
00:30:18.000 Because if it wasn't Beneath Us, it would be, I think you're wrong.
00:30:21.000 Let's argue.
00:30:21.000 Like with sports, you have your team, the Mets, and if someone likes the Yankees, you go, what do you do with the Yankees?
00:30:26.000 What is your favorite superhero, Superman? 1.00
00:30:28.000 You don't go, you're human garbage. 1.00
00:30:30.000 You need to die. 1.00
00:30:30.000 Right, right. 1.00
00:30:32.000 And you see this with the National Review people.
00:30:33.000 Like, what's Kevin Williams?
00:30:36.000 Where he's like, let's just wait for these people to die off in the Midwest.
00:30:39.000 I mean, it's things like that.
00:30:41.000 I mean, the idea that you could blithely talk about people dying off in groups just shows this is some kind of ideology that's removed from reality.
00:30:47.000 And it shows it's part of daycares, it's part of bubble living, and it shows someone hasn't seen people die.
00:30:53.000 And the other thing I always wonder with these people is, what are you going to do with racists in your culture when a racist has a vote?
00:31:00.000 I mean, they pretend like these people are somehow going to vanish and cease to exist.
00:31:03.000 That's not how democracy works.
00:31:06.000 But I don't think racists exist.
00:31:07.000 What do you mean racist?
00:31:08.000 You don't think racists exist?
00:31:09.000 I don't think there's racism in America.
00:31:11.000 Okay.
00:31:13.000 I mean, there's racism against whites, I guess.
00:31:16.000 But for the most part, I think for everything bad that happens to a person of color, there's someone else trying to push them up, and you end up basically the same.
00:31:25.000 Okay, but that still means racism exists.
00:31:27.000 There's this countervail forces.
00:31:28.000 There's a thin veneer.
00:31:30.000 Sure.
00:31:31.000 Like if you meet a black guy and he likes the same teams as you and he can't believe that people have sandwiches without toasted bread and he goes and you hear him say, it's like having two socks with meat and cheese in the middle.
00:31:43.000 Why do you want to bite into a sock?
00:31:45.000 And the racist goes, I know.
00:31:47.000 And how hot is it to toast something?
00:31:49.000 Like, you shouldn't even have a sandwich shop if you can't toast bread.
00:31:52.000 Best friends.
00:31:53.000 What kind of fanfic are you writing?
00:31:56.000 I didn't follow any of it.
00:31:57.000 It's like a was it buddy's?
00:31:58.000 I'm saying you take the Archie Bunker archetype of a racist, right? 0.98
00:32:02.000 And if this evil black person that he supposedly hates says one thing that they have in common. 0.92
00:32:08.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, because it's very classist, right? 0.99
00:32:10.000 Right, right.
00:32:11.000 Like people in unions.
00:32:12.000 Yes.
00:32:13.000 Yes.
00:32:14.000 Well, that's the beauty of sports, and it's annoying that liberals are trying to ruin it so much, because you go to a ball game, and it's the most multicultural, diverse thing ever, and they're all focused on one thing that has nothing to do with race.
00:32:24.000 Well, I guess in basketball it does, but it's all about this guy has an abnormal skill.
00:32:28.000 Let's watch him use it.
00:32:29.000 But That's what totalitarian means.
00:32:31.000 Totalitarian means you can't have anything outside the purview of your ideology.
00:32:34.000 So they've got to be everywhere by definition.
00:32:36.000 I mean, they're even, I talk about this in the book also, they went after sci-fi and fantasy.
00:32:40.000 So even if you go to another planet or back in time, you can't escape their worldview.
00:32:45.000 There's got to be, they were flipping out, I think it was like in 1990, 91, when Star Trek had a black Vulcan.
00:32:51.000 And they're like, it's about time.
00:32:52.000 And it's like the idea that race is a great thing.
00:32:55.000 What are we, outer spacist?
00:32:57.000 But it's also the idea that on other planets, races are going to evolve the same that they evolved on Earth is psychotic.
00:33:01.000 And it only makes sense if you think that your worldview has to be the same literally everywhere in the universe throughout time.
00:33:08.000 What is this book you're talking about?
00:33:09.000 My book on the New Right.
00:33:10.000 I'm pretending I don't know, so you can talk about it.
00:33:12.000 Oh, it comes out in April.
00:33:13.000 There's a chapter on you.
00:33:15.000 Oh, okay.
00:33:16.000 You know what I like about the term new right?
00:33:18.000 You look at Wikipedia and they go back 100 years and they talk about Australia New Right and all these different evolutions in Britain and stuff.
00:33:26.000 And for the most part, I read it and I went, yeah, that's pretty on point.
00:33:29.000 I would say I'm that.
00:33:30.000 Yeah.
00:33:31.000 Socially liberal goes back and forth, but it's always fiscally conservative.
00:33:34.000 No, I think a lot of these of the alt-right people who fall in this bigger umbrella are actually not fiscally conservative.
00:33:41.000 Oh, so you would put alt-right in New Right?
00:33:43.000 Yeah, so for me, New Right is a group of people who are united by their perception of progressivism as a barely disguised religion intent on complete cultural domination in furtherance of global world hegemony. 0.93
00:33:53.000 Sometimes you Russians sound like someone has a gun to your head. 0.94
00:33:58.000 I have to have a specific definition. 0.97
00:34:00.000 So when I go on these different shows, I'm sure they're going to be like, oh, so you're a Nazi?
00:34:04.000 And it's like, no, this is not Nazi.
00:34:05.000 It's not a Nazi at all.
00:34:07.000 So I'm trying to be as scholarly as possible because there's also this attempt to dismiss this whole school of thought as basically internet trolls. 1.00
00:34:15.000 And these people are idiots. 1.00
00:34:16.000 They don't know what they're talking about. 1.00
00:34:17.000 It's like, these people are actually often very, very bright and very, very autistically educated about what topic they happen to be interested in.
00:34:23.000 Yeah, I see the new right as distinct, though.
00:34:26.000 I see the new right as sort of near the paleocons. 0.58
00:34:32.000 Yes.
00:34:32.000 Buchanan.
00:34:33.000 And then I see a definitive line.
00:34:35.000 Then I see Buchanan.
00:34:35.000 Then I see a definitive line.
00:34:36.000 And then I see the alt-right.
00:34:38.000 Way over here.
00:34:39.000 Whenever you have these definitive lines in politics, they're really never definitive.
00:34:42.000 There's always the kind of a spillover.
00:34:44.000 And we want to make their definitive lines, but it's not really the case.
00:34:46.000 Maybe a Venn diagram a little bit.
00:34:48.000 Sure.
00:34:48.000 But I actually see the alt-right has gone so far to the right, they fell off the cliff.
00:34:53.000 That's my point in the book.
00:34:54.000 You're supposed to take one red pill, not the whole bottle.
00:34:58.000 Well, they get socialists.
00:34:59.000 They're passionately atheists.
00:35:01.000 They really seem to hate religion.
00:35:02.000 Well, a lot of them are into paganism, right?
00:35:04.000 Because it's like this pre-Nazi pagan worldview.
00:35:07.000 They're into that.
00:35:08.000 Right.
00:35:09.000 And the way they talk about decadence and stuff and degeneracy.
00:35:12.000 Degeneracy means racism.
00:35:14.000 It means something I don't like.
00:35:15.000 Okay.
00:35:16.000 It's just like this is degeneracy. 0.90
00:35:18.000 When they use it, it's to mean like, oh, you hang around with homosexualism. 0.93
00:35:21.000 They've got drag queens everywhere. 1.00
00:35:22.000 There's just people doing cracks.
00:35:24.000 It just means that which I don't like is degenerate.
00:35:26.000 I understand.
00:35:26.000 But King Tut was wearing makeup, right?
00:35:28.000 King Tut was a god-emperor, not Trump.
00:35:30.000 King Tut was literally a god-emperor.
00:35:32.000 And he's in makeup.
00:35:33.000 And he's like 15 when he dies.
00:35:35.000 I understand.
00:35:35.000 But when I hear the alt-right say it, I know they're talking about like, say, Milo.
00:35:39.000 It's Milo's sexual orientation.
00:35:41.000 Right.
00:35:42.000 And they remind me of the Puritans.
00:35:44.000 They remind me of like the new Victorians.
00:35:47.000 And they kind of sound like social justice warriors.
00:35:48.000 Yes. 0.99
00:35:49.000 They tell you that sex is gross and how you're supposed to have sex and this is disgusting and this is wrong. 0.99
00:35:54.000 And they're atheists and they like socialism. 0.99
00:35:58.000 That's why I like the political spectrum to be a donut because the alt-right and the alt-left are touching.
00:36:02.000 Well, that's horseshoe theory.
00:36:03.000 Yeah, well, the horseshoe theory, they're just close.
00:36:06.000 I glue them right together.
00:36:07.000 Well, that's the other thing.
00:36:08.000 Like, they were all flipping out over.
00:36:09.000 There was this photo of a drag queen reading to kids in kindergarten.
00:36:13.000 It's like, oh, my God.
00:36:13.000 It's like, kids understand dress-up.
00:36:15.000 They don't think this is some, they just think this is like a princess or a demon.
00:36:18.000 They don't think anything.
00:36:19.000 True, true, but there is something else going on there.
00:36:22.000 There is, because there's also the attempts to teach the kids about sexuality, which is completely a different situation.
00:36:27.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:36:27.000 Like, I don't, per se, have a problem with some guy coming and going, hi, I'm a lady, doo-doo-doo.
00:36:32.000 And then there's another character, I'm a fire engine.
00:36:34.000 That's funny.
00:36:35.000 But Alex Jones had this drag queen show in Austin where it was drag queens come out and the kids are like, yeah, that's a lady, whatever. 0.98
00:36:43.000 And then they start pumping and grinding and they've got thongs on and now it's a sexual thing. 1.00
00:36:49.000 More sexual than any drag queen show I've ever seen. 1.00
00:36:51.000 Right. 0.80
00:36:52.000 Yeah, and that's absolutely crazy.
00:36:55.000 I went to a drag queen restaurant with Milo and Pamela Geller.
00:36:59.000 Oh, which one?
00:37:00.000 The Madam Chang's, whatever it is?
00:37:01.000 No, I think it's called Lips.
00:37:02.000 Oh, God.
00:37:03.000 Oof.
00:37:04.000 Okay.
00:37:04.000 But it was remarkably half-assed.
00:37:08.000 Oh, yeah.
00:37:09.000 I mean, they didn't even have high-heel shoes on.
00:37:11.000 Really?
00:37:12.000 Yeah.
00:37:12.000 All of them had flats, but all the iconography was high-heeled shoes.
00:37:15.000 Yeah.
00:37:15.000 Welcome to naughty ladies.
00:37:17.000 Hi, girl.
00:37:17.000 And they're just sitting there serving drinks.
00:37:19.000 Lazy New Yorkers, you know, who are just trying to get Coke money.
00:37:23.000 And their wigs askew.
00:37:24.000 Wigs are kind of sweaty.
00:37:26.000 And I was just like, what is this culture?
00:37:28.000 And then they get on stage and they lip sync.
00:37:31.000 Yeah.
00:37:32.000 And you're like, this is sub-karaoke.
00:37:34.000 Yeah.
00:37:34.000 At least with karaoke, you have to use your pipes.
00:37:37.000 And then Pamela and I...
00:37:41.000 Right, there was one or two of them.
00:37:43.000 Yes, and they get the credit.
00:37:44.000 What a talent.
00:37:46.000 Singing is a talent.
00:37:48.000 Sort of.
00:37:48.000 You don't think singing is a talent?
00:37:50.000 I think it's a very easy talent to acquire.
00:37:51.000 It's like acting.
00:37:53.000 Okay.
00:37:54.000 I mastered both like in a month.
00:37:56.000 Yeah.
00:37:57.000 I did.
00:37:58.000 I'm an incredible actor.
00:37:59.000 When are you going to mastered running a talk show?
00:38:04.000 TikTok, Larice.
00:38:06.000 Baby steps.
00:38:08.000 Yeah, I definitely think I am 35% of the way where I want to be with a talk show.
00:38:17.000 But with singing, I've gone off because I stopped karaokeing, but I was at 80, 90.
00:38:22.000 Yeah, I believe it.
00:38:23.000 It's not hard to get decent.
00:38:25.000 Yeah.
00:38:26.000 Same with acting.
00:38:29.000 Yeah, I saw a scene where you were teaching your kid in the movie how to perform oral.
00:38:34.000 I'm going to try to say oral acts.
00:38:36.000 I'm like, okay, this is acting because you are acting as his dad.
00:38:39.000 It was believable.
00:38:40.000 Yeah.
00:38:40.000 You just believe it.
00:38:41.000 And then when you see bad acting, you go, this is, you can't do something so easy.
00:38:45.000 And even, there's even a director there, by the way, saying, no, no, no, be like this.
00:38:48.000 What are we doing here?
00:38:49.000 Okay.
00:38:50.000 What are we doing here?
00:38:51.000 And the director has to go, what are we doing here?
00:38:54.000 Okay, what are we doing here? 0.99
00:38:56.000 And you go, you're incompetent. 1.00
00:38:59.000 You can't even talk. 1.00
00:39:00.000 What are you doing on earth?
00:39:03.000 But yes, I see the old right and the old left as a donut.
00:39:06.000 And I think that we're running out of time here, so I'm winding it up.
00:39:10.000 That this communist need to dehumanize people so you can dispose of their bodies is what makes Russia so horrible.
00:39:20.000 It's what makes America so great that we don't have that or didn't have that.
00:39:23.000 And I love talking to you because you've had your feet held to the flames.
00:39:28.000 You've been in Russia.
00:39:29.000 And I remember something you said.
00:39:29.000 North Korea, too.
00:39:30.000 North Korea.
00:39:32.000 You said something I never thought of before.
00:39:33.000 You said there's these informants.
00:39:34.000 There's many such cases.
00:39:36.000 This one was a doozy.
00:39:38.000 And you said, there's obviously informants in any communist country.
00:39:41.000 And like any business, like any job, if you're giving up parking tickets, you better have your pad empty at the end of the week or you're going to get fired.
00:39:50.000 So these informants need someone.
00:39:52.000 And eventually, they start choosing that guy.
00:39:55.000 Yeah.
00:39:56.000 Or mom.
00:39:58.000 There was a, my wife told me about this book she read where there was a guy in North Korea.
00:40:02.000 He was born in the re-education.
00:40:04.000 Yeah, escaped from Camp 14.
00:40:06.000 Is that it?
00:40:06.000 And he ratted out his mother.
00:40:08.000 Yeah.
00:40:09.000 Because she was planning an escape or something.
00:40:10.000 And he thought that was a very noble thing to do.
00:40:12.000 He's very proud of himself.
00:40:13.000 And so, in that culture...
00:40:24.000 So you were taught this school.
00:40:25.000 Oh, and he's a national hero.
00:40:26.000 That kid.
00:40:26.000 Yeah.
00:40:27.000 You were taught this in school to turn your parents into the cops.
00:40:28.000 So it's particularly insidious because you're sitting there with your brother or your dad.
00:40:37.000 I never see Kyle.
00:40:39.000 You're sitting there with your brother going, yeah, oh yeah, that's nice, whatever.
00:40:43.000 Yeah.
00:40:44.000 Yeah, you had a good time, did you?
00:40:45.000 Yeah, I'm sure you did.
00:40:46.000 Sure you did.
00:40:47.000 So now you've severed friendships and family relationships.
00:40:50.000 No wonder they're drunk all the time.
00:40:51.000 What about ex-girlfriends?
00:40:53.000 Oh, yeah.
00:40:54.000 The guy's going to be in a position of power.
00:40:56.000 She's going to be lower, right?
00:40:57.000 And then she wants revenge because he cheated on her or something. 0.99
00:41:00.000 Or he just didn't return her call. 1.00
00:41:02.000 And so you'll have these crazy bitches. 1.00
00:41:05.000 They're not crazy. 1.00
00:41:06.000 They're perfectly sane.
00:41:07.000 They know what they're doing.
00:41:08.000 These homicidal mania.
00:41:09.000 And what happens?
00:41:10.000 Like, I know in North Korea, you go to the re-education camp.
00:41:12.000 They practice vivisection on you or whatever.
00:41:15.000 Say you and I were in Russia.
00:41:17.000 Yeah.
00:41:18.000 And I was a secret informant, and I went up and I was just in a bad mood because you farted on my date. 0.84
00:41:24.000 And she was there. 0.96
00:41:25.000 Not gay. 1.00
00:41:29.000 And I go up to the authorities and I say, Michael Malice is very bad. 0.91
00:41:33.000 He's involved in all kinds of things.
00:41:35.000 He wants to take down state.
00:41:37.000 What exactly happens to you now? 0.99
00:41:39.000 That would be stupid because that's a bold accusation, right? 0.99
00:41:42.000 If you're accusing me of like, he wants to shoot the president in America, right? 1.00
00:41:46.000 It's like, do you want to shoot the president? 0.96
00:41:47.000 No, okay, fine. 0.63
00:41:48.000 If you say, oh, I caught him taking money from this other person or someone who you know is shady in the town, like there are ways to do it to be clever.
00:41:56.000 It's got to be plausible and it's got to be not that big a deal.
00:41:58.000 And then it's like, okay.
00:41:59.000 So it also, I mean, towards the end, it wasn't anywhere near as dangerous as it was like under Stalin.
00:42:04.000 But you could really, it's just like calling HR because now they have to investigate.
00:42:08.000 And what happens to you, though?
00:42:09.000 Do you go to prison?
00:42:10.000 No, but you could lose your job or you could, you know, I think that's the big one.
00:42:15.000 Because we had a libertarian on the show who had a, they went to Adam Smith conference and everyone there was arrested, rounded up in a paddy wagon.
00:42:24.000 Wait, in Russia?
00:42:25.000 In Russia, yeah.
00:42:26.000 Oh, wow.
00:42:26.000 When did this happen?
00:42:28.000 Dave will have to look it up.
00:42:30.000 Wow.
00:42:30.000 But I talked to Russians who go, no, no, that's exaggeration.
00:42:33.000 There was anarchist meeting at the same time and they didn't know who was who.
00:42:38.000 And I'm like, okay, so you can't have an anarchist meeting?
00:42:40.000 No, but anarchist in there means terrorist.
00:42:42.000 You know, like anarchy in the UK means I want to be a terrorist. 0.98
00:42:46.000 I want to destroy passers-by. 0.95
00:42:47.000 That's the lyric.
00:42:49.000 So when they're talking about an anarchist meeting, they mean people are going to blow up things.
00:42:52.000 Okay.
00:42:53.000 So this isn't sounding so bad.
00:42:55.000 I was hoping we could end this show with people being carted away.
00:42:59.000 This is how I want the show to end.
00:43:01.000 You say, yes, I would immediately be sent to Gulag.
00:43:05.000 Under Stalin, yes.
00:43:06.000 Under Stalin, yes.
00:43:07.000 And you know what else would happen?
00:43:07.000 That would be more modern than Stalin.
00:43:09.000 Under modern Stalin, not only am I punished, I'm beaten until I have to turn in 20 names.
00:43:15.000 And they were beaten until their eyes were popped out of their head, like literally that bad.
00:43:19.000 And what was hilarious is that when Stalin lay dying after his stroke, they had to get the doctors that they were torturing at that time out of the Kremlin to kind of help and save him because at the end of his life, Stalin wanted to kill all the doctors.
00:43:34.000 So that's how demented that country was.
00:43:37.000 Right, but I can't use that, Mike.
00:43:40.000 My premise here, and we may have to re-edit this so I can make my fake news.
00:43:44.000 My premise here is...
00:43:54.000 I don't agree with that friend there.
00:43:55.000 Excuse me.
00:43:56.000 Sorry.
00:43:56.000 And that's a very dangerous tendency because ultimately it leads to a Pinochet type of Chile where you get thrown in jail for being in the media and writing of something bad.
00:44:07.000 So happy ending.
00:44:09.000 Our helicopters.
00:44:11.000 Pinochet sounds too cool.
00:44:12.000 I shouldn't have used him.
00:44:12.000 He is the coolest.
00:44:13.000 Venezuela.
00:44:14.000 It ends up with a Venezuelan type of result.
00:44:17.000 And then you're supposed to say, well, that's what's happening right now with Putin.
00:44:21.000 If someone says something bad about you, you could go to prison tomorrow.
00:44:24.000 But I don't think that's true.
00:44:27.000 I think things are going to ruin my whole show.
00:44:29.000 Well, that's what I'm, I mean, that's usually what I do with any show.
00:44:32.000 So what you're saying, though, is this tendency could get worse and worse and worse and become as bad as Russia. 0.74
00:44:37.000 And we're still not going to be able to do it.
00:44:37.000 No, I'm saying this tendency has been here for a while and it's gotten weaker and weaker and weaker in their ability to enforce it.
00:44:42.000 Used to be sentenced for hard labor for sending sexual materials in the mail.
00:44:46.000 Where?
00:44:47.000 In America.
00:44:48.000 Moses Harmon.
00:44:49.000 Okay, I understand.
00:44:50.000 But recently, this group probably just had a guy who was banned from the Canadian border because they found Proud Boy stuff on his phone.
00:44:58.000 You mean banned from the border?
00:44:59.000 He was prevented from coming into Canada.
00:45:01.000 He wanted to go up there and just hang out for a day.
00:45:03.000 They said, no, you're part of this group.
00:45:05.000 It's Canada's fault. 0.96
00:45:07.000 Well, whatever.
00:45:07.000 It's just the West.
00:45:08.000 It's all the same.
00:45:09.000 If Canada and America are the same, then why are you here? 0.96
00:45:11.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:45:13.000 Because America's best.
00:45:15.000 You're saying America's the same as Germany. 0.56
00:45:17.000 This tendency of doxing and getting people fired and calling everyone a Nazi.
00:45:21.000 That's a North American European problem.
00:45:24.000 Yes.
00:45:25.000 And I'm saying it could get as bad as Russia. 0.93
00:45:27.000 Now you have to say, and Russia's really bad. 0.98
00:45:30.000 And Russia is really bad. 0.72
00:45:31.000 There.
00:45:32.000 Jesus Christ.
00:45:33.000 That was.
00:45:35.000 So there are still acting.
00:45:38.000 No, no.
00:45:38.000 Come on.
00:45:39.000 Are you serious?
00:45:40.000 Russia's really bad. 0.99
00:45:40.000 I'm not arguing. 0.99
00:45:41.000 There are people who are thrown in jail for having the wrong views.
00:45:43.000 There's tons of innocent people in jail.
00:45:44.000 You can't criticize Putin.
00:45:46.000 I don't think it's as bad as that.
00:45:47.000 I think Russia specifically can't be powerful and criticize Putin because those people have a way of being suicidal.
00:45:52.000 Ah, okay.
00:45:54.000 Although we got that with Hillary. 0.67
00:45:55.000 Correct.
00:45:56.000 So this.
00:45:57.000 Did you see that tweet someone, when Donna Brazil had her book come out?
00:46:00.000 Someone photoshopped a tweet of Hillary and goes, I'm very saddened to hear, I can't believe Donna Brazil said what she did, and I'm very saddened to hear of her forthcoming suicide.
00:46:09.000 It is spooky when you look all those up.
00:46:11.000 But that's a topic for another show is how bad is Russia? 0.85
00:46:15.000 How close are we?
00:46:16.000 How similar are we?
00:46:17.000 And are we headed there?
00:46:18.000 Right.
00:46:20.000 You got a tip of the iceberg on today's show with Mr. Malice.
00:46:23.000 Thank you for coming in.
00:46:24.000 And Malice, thank you.
00:46:26.000 Thanking you.
00:46:26.000 We look forward to your book in April.
00:46:28.000 Yes.
00:46:29.000 All about the new right.
00:46:30.000 Glowing chapter on me and how influential and intelligent I am, I assume.
00:46:34.000 That's true.
00:46:34.000 Yeah.
00:46:36.000 I didn't remember doing any photos.
00:46:37.000 You could have done a shirtless shot.
00:46:39.000 Oh, we watch you while you sleep.
00:46:40.000 Oh, yeah.
00:46:41.000 And you wet the bed from drinking.
00:46:44.000 Oh, yeah.
00:46:44.000 That's true.
00:46:47.000 Happy 2018, guys.
00:46:49.000 We're back to the normal studio tomorrow.
00:46:51.000 Normal shows, current events will be discussed much more.
00:46:53.000 I don't know why I've been avoiding current events the past week.
00:46:56.000 I just was sick of them.
00:46:58.000 But I'm going to be interested in them again tomorrow.
00:47:00.000 And we don't pre-tape here.
00:47:02.000 Get off my lawn.
00:47:03.000 And we never will.