On today's show, Gavin McInnes and John Lott discuss the latest mass shooting in Parkland, Florida, and the lack of answers as to what could have been the motive behind it. They also discuss gun control.
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00:00:19.000Live from New York, it's Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McInnes.
00:00:46.000That's the Boomtown Rats, led by Bob Geldoff, that live-aid guy that is about a shooting at Grover Elementary School.
00:00:54.000I think it was in San Diego back in 1979, where a girl, teenage girl, 16-year-old, went and shut up a school, shot up a bunch of adults and teachers.
00:01:02.000And that is the subject of today's show, obviously.
00:01:35.000So we'll end this episode with a very fun look at supermodels beating up people in action movies and black women being injected into all American history in this new sort of politically correct rewriting of reality and European and American history and how you can't watch movies anymore because you keep getting yanked out of it.
00:02:00.000So we'll talk to Ant about that and we'll wrap up the show.
00:02:02.000But yeah, let's start with talking about guns with John Lott.
00:03:21.000We're both correct and right-wing, so we'll be focusing on the truth, which is this is yet another example of a gun-free zone getting shot up.
00:03:28.000But before we get into that, I just wanted to have sort of a moment of clarity here.
00:03:33.000I just made a chart in Photoshop of the deadliest mass shootings in the past, what, well, going back to 1984.
00:03:44.000So the worst shootings, worst 14 shootings.
00:03:47.000And I put a crescent and a star, meaning a Muslim motive, on three of them.
00:05:18.000Should we have more background checks?
00:05:21.000Once again, we turn to John Lott, the resident expert on this subject, on, as the post said, how many times, what can we do to prevent these shootings?
00:05:32.000And by the way, this will give you fodder for your college class and your bar arguments when they say, can't we just ban these assault weapons?
00:05:43.000Why are crazy people who haven't passed a background check able to use an automatic weapon on innocent children?
00:05:57.000Well, it's kind of sad because we speak to you after every mass shooting, so I have this Pavlovian response of grief and sadness every time I see you.
00:06:07.000Well, hopefully we can muddle through.
00:06:09.000I mean, it's, I have to tell you, I just find this whole thing so frustrating.
00:06:14.000I don't know if people, you can appreciate it, but it's, you know, I've been saying similar stuff for since 1998 now about these gun-free zones.
00:06:26.000And I listened to politicians yesterday get on the TV And they start talking about background checks on private transfers.
00:06:51.000I want to get rid of these gun-free zones that we have, that we keep on seeing these attacks occurring in.
00:06:57.000But you take something like these background checks on private transfers.
00:07:01.000First of all, it looks like yet again, it's completely irrelevant.
00:07:04.000There's not one mass public shooting in this century where if this law had been in effect, it would have made any difference in terms of whether these things occur.
00:07:14.000We have Senator Nelson from Florida getting on and talking about the terror watch list and making it look like Republicans like terrorists to have guns.
00:07:23.000I mean, first of all, it's irrelevant to what just happened.
00:07:27.000And secondly, he completely mischaracterizes what the whole debate was at the time.
00:07:33.000The whole debate was whether or not the government would have to go before a judge in order to justify banning somebody from having a gun.
00:07:43.000The Democrats just wanted some unnamed bureaucrat to be able to unilaterally make a decision on that.
00:07:49.000And the Republicans said, well, fine, the bureaucrat can make the decision, but a judge has to at least look at it and give it at least the low standard of evidence associated with probable cause.
00:08:02.000You know, it didn't even have to have preponderance of the evidence, which is like 51% sure, or beyond a reasonable doubt, which is like 95% sure.
00:08:12.000They just said, you know, if you're like 20% sure or 25% sure, that would be enough to ban somebody from owning a gun.
00:08:19.000But going before a judge at all was too much for Democrats.
00:08:22.000Or you have things like the assault weapons ban.
00:08:38.000So, and then the one thing here is you look at all the mass public shootings in Florida, whether it be the Orlando nightclub shooting or the business shooting in Orlando last year or the Ohial restaurant one or the Fort Lauderdale airport.
00:08:54.000All of these, including the one yesterday, were in these gun-free zones that were there.
00:09:00.000People think we just ban guns from an area to make it safe.
00:09:12.000I have a whole chapter with quotes from these killers where they left diaries or other types of statements about why they chose the targets that they did.
00:09:24.000And time after time, they mention that they want to go to a place where victims can't defend themselves because they'll make it easier for them to kill lots of people before somebody shows up with a gun in order to stop them.
00:09:37.000I mean, I don't know how much more explicit these guys can be.
00:09:40.000And you look at these mass public shootings.
00:09:42.000Over 98% of the mass public shootings that we've had since 1950 have occurred in places where general civilians are banned from having guns.
00:09:53.000So these guys may be crazy in some sense, but they're not stupid.
00:09:57.000They want to kill as many people as possible.
00:09:59.000And they know if they go to a place where people can't defend themselves, they can kill more people.
00:10:04.000So I'm just frustrated because it's like, you know, I listened to the commentaries on even Fox last night.
00:10:16.000And people were saying, well, you know, bad things will happen if people have guns and they're in this situation and cause more chaos and harm.
00:10:25.000Well, people can go to our website at crime research.org.
00:10:29.000I have literally dozens of cases in just recent years where what would have been a mass public shooting was stopped by people with permanent concealed handguns.
00:10:39.000There was a case just very recently in Florida at an automobile repair shop, which was crowded with people, which was stopped by two permit holders, where the police said that many would have died if it wasn't for those individuals.
00:10:53.000But I can give you, I can go on for hours about the cases that we've collected there.
00:10:58.000They don't get national news attention.
00:11:00.000You know, one can only imagine if the people hadn't been there to stop it, what type of national news attention or worldwide attention they would get.
00:11:12.000And yet in not one of those cases can these things about what might possibly go wrong actually occur.
00:11:20.000You know, in so much of this gun control debate, it's kind of like the gun control advocates say, well, this might go wrong or this might go wrong.
00:11:28.000Well, we don't need to guess in a lot of these cases.
00:11:31.000We can go and look to see whether or not those things might happen or not.
00:11:36.000So what's the scenario we're talking about?
00:11:37.000Are we talking about teachers all strapped across the country?
00:11:41.000Or are we talking about security guards at the front with their, we have to get armed security in every high school in America?
00:11:51.000Look, personally, I would let staff and teachers carry concealed so nobody would know that they have it.
00:12:00.000This notion, and I disagree strongly with the NRA on this, this notion about having an armed police officer or someone like that in each school, I don't think makes much sense.
00:12:14.000You have an armed person in uniform, that's an incredibly difficult job.
00:12:19.000Having somebody like that, it's like somebody with a neon sign that says, shoot me first.
00:12:26.000You know, you want to have someone who the attacker doesn't know, whose job isn't obviously security.
00:13:33.000And when he took over that job, he was a strong gun control advocate.
00:13:38.000By the time he got done, he thought that gun control was actually dangerous.
00:13:46.000He said, look, there's two ways you can try to make a place safe.
00:13:48.000You can either really make it a gun-free zone, or you can let the possible victims defend themselves, because you just can't simply have police or law enforcement every place.
00:13:59.000And what he learned over time is that for these soft targets, whether it be a mall or a movie theater or a restaurant, that it's simply impossible to really make these places gun-free zones.
00:14:12.000You have these attackers plan these attacks for a year or two years in advance.
00:14:18.000You know, there's no way you're going to be able to stop some place where civilians can enter in and out all the time.
00:14:25.000Even with a metal detector, you just shoot the guy at the metal detector.
00:14:49.000They'll look at the different options.
00:14:50.000I mean, whether, and we see this with our killers here, whether it's the Aurora Batman movie theater shooter.
00:14:57.000You know, he obviously went to a number of movie theaters beforehand.
00:15:01.000He had notes on different movie theaters.
00:15:04.000His original attack was going to be at the Denver International Airport until he discovered the amount of armed security that they had there.
00:15:12.000So, you know, you see these guys, you know, with a Charleston church shooter, the Charleston church wasn't his first target.
00:15:20.000He had gone and investigated several different options before he decided to choose that.
00:15:25.000These guys, six months of planning for these types of things is a short period of time for these guys.
00:17:15.000We've had lots of academic studies on this type of stuff.
00:17:19.000We've had, you know, the Clinton administration paid for studies to be done, and nothing they paid for showed that their law that they love so much made any difference.
00:17:32.000You know, when the assault weapons ban sunset in 2004, you can go back through Senator Feinstein, Senator Schumer, gun control groups were all predicting the end of the world, that murder rates were going to soar afterwards.
00:17:53.000You know, I don't want to get too much in the weeds, but it's just very frustrating that these guys keep latching on to things.
00:18:04.000I just wish once in a while some of these reporters would say, well, okay, so you want to background check in all private transfers, and you're bringing it up because of this mass public shooting.
00:18:14.000Can you point to me, let's say, mass public shootings in the last decade that would have been stopped if this law had been in effect?
00:18:45.000It's like when you talk about immigration and you ask them how many illegal immigrants are there, and they have no clue, and you realize you don't really care about this because you've never looked it up.
00:19:02.000I'm listening to these experts going talk about, well, we've had 18 school shootings this year.
00:19:08.000These numbers are just completely bogus stuff.
00:19:11.000I tell you, so like to get to the 18, they include, well, first of all, it's K-through college, and they're including even gunshots that aren't even on the school campus grounds.
00:19:32.000Well, okay, we want to count a police officer's gun accidentally going off as a school shooting.
00:19:38.000There's a 31-year-old ex-military person who at night pulls into the parking lot of a school out of school hours and commits suicide in his car.
00:19:53.000Is that want to count that as a school shooting?
00:19:55.000Is that what people imagine when they're thinking about a school shooting?
00:20:00.000A police officer accidentally firing his gun or this other?
00:20:03.000If you look at cases where a gun was fired on school property and somebody was hit with the bullet, okay, you're talking about four cases.
00:20:58.000I don't know if I've ever seen anything so biased.
00:21:01.000You know, they don't even have anybody on kind of the side pro-self-defense side that knows anything about the numbers that they're talking to.
00:21:11.000They have the other side just throwing out these claims all the time.
00:21:16.000I guess CBS 60 Minutes can't afford a fact check.
00:21:19.000John, we're out of time, but this has been...
00:22:09.000An Italian inspector comes by every so often to make sure we have the sufficient amount of columns and rolls and every chair has to go like that.
00:24:04.000You know, it's just these women that look amazing, but they're supernatural.
00:24:11.000I mean, obviously, women wouldn't need any help against people like Harvey Weinstein or any of these rapists in Hollywood if they actually could, right, do these things in headlocks.
00:24:24.000Imagine Harvey Weinstein, hey, hey, help me up.
00:25:09.000And she has the most delicate features, a half-power punch that jaw is shattering.
00:25:17.000Well, also in that movie, so that movie is actually pretty good outside of the affirmative action.
00:25:23.000But it's about a guy, terrorists kill his fiancé, so he becomes like the Punisher, and he learns martial arts and Arabic and studies the Quran so he can join ISIS to kill the bin Laden guy.
00:26:14.000First of all, in any fight, if you just pulled the weave off her head, she would be so distracted that you could probably get in five more punches.
00:26:24.000Half the time you watch these movies, you go, why are you working in intelligence?
00:26:36.000That point where right at the beginning of their career, a recruiter has to come over and be like, hey, you know, you work in law enforcement of some capacity or you're in intelligence and in college, and that's where they get them from.
00:26:50.000Why would you walk up to this insanely beautiful woman who wouldn't ever be in that situation in the first place?
00:28:22.000I don't understand how they try to think we're going to be able to suspend this belief for that.
00:28:30.000I could abide the fact that Jason Bourne is shoving an aerosol can in a microwave and runs out and it blows up and kills the guys.
00:28:39.000I could actually kind of go with that.
00:28:42.000But the fact that this woman would have to flee a safe house on a moment's notice, yet could do her hair and makeup perfectly before that is, I can't buy it.
00:28:54.000Well, you're watching her and you're like, why are you a hacker for the CIA?
00:33:42.000Well, there was, I wasn't there, but there was, there's definitely, I would assume, a racial undertone with this, we hate disco, we like rock.
00:34:06.000I did not see one non-white person rioting.
00:34:11.000Yeah, we're exposed to this fake diversity where it couldn't have existed and never existed.
00:34:22.000But even when they portray historical events now, you have to throw all that in.
00:34:27.000I guess Google, you know how Google puts their little front page up and every day it's a little theme thing, an animated little theme under the word Google.
00:34:37.000When SpaceX launched that latest rocket where they put the Tesla in space, they did another one and they showed like jumping happy little characters in a control room, a space control room.
00:34:50.000And it was, you know, you could tell it was a little black animation and a white and an Asian and stuff.
00:34:56.000And then you look at the actual celebration from the control room, it couldn't be a bunch of whiter dudes and a couple of chicks and a couple of Asian guys, but the bulk of it were just white dudes.
00:35:09.000And there's this forced thing that we're supposed to, regardless of what the fact is, and regardless as to why the fact of the matter is, but it is the fact of the matter.
00:35:20.000They have to portray it as we see these fake commercials and movies and everything else.
00:35:33.000But when you portray it like it's a historical event, you're trying to rewrite history and make it inaccurate and that it was diverse or something.
00:35:43.000And that's the stuff that really just gets me.
00:35:46.000Like, oh, it's so obviously pandering.
00:37:22.000The latest is a beautiful black woman portraying Joan of Arc.
00:37:30.000That's the latest thing they're going to be doing.
00:37:32.000And I saw that, and I'm like, and then the hypocrisy, the double standard, the anger from black people when you show Nefertiti there as a pale woman, it just gets wild.
00:37:49.000I go, how could you get angry when Hamilton is a black dude on Broadway and Joan of Arc is a black chick?
00:38:36.000So Drunk History, they did a thing on McCready versus Edwin Forrest, and they made it all about the rich people like the British guy, McCready, and the locals liked Edwin Forrest.
00:41:25.000And Churchill gets through half of it, and the black guy's sitting there, and he eloquently finishes the quote, and Churchill's like, oh, and it just is so, it took me out of it.
00:41:37.000It's a ham-handed attempt to say, hey, black people, we'll put you in the movie, even though 1940 England about the war, it's devoid of black people.
00:41:59.000They were the founding fathers, and they were an integral part of European and American history, which is sort of true, but not the way you're showing it, unfortunately.
00:42:09.000And to just lie to these people, to make them feel good, seems like the bigotry of low expectations.
00:42:58.000Everything after Taken is so fake, as Nick DiPaulo said, I can't sit around here and watch Angelina Jolie kick the living shit out of 10 green berets.
00:43:30.000I'm so looking forward to this Bruce Willis death wish, but if there is a hot black chick by his side kicking the shit out of people, I'm going to lose it.
00:43:41.000I can't imagine there won't be, which is upsetting.
00:43:44.000Yeah, well, if there isn't, that'll be a whole backyard.