Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - February 28, 2018


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Greg and Greg are joined by Pat Buchanan and Amanda House to talk about Churchill, Hitler, and how we could have avoided two world wars. They also talk about the scandal of the Phi Mu Alpha sororities and how they should have dealt with it.

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00:00:31.000 Hey boys, I was the Kingsman.
00:00:34.000 Louie Louie, probably the greatest song ever made.
00:00:37.000 In fact, I have an album of Louie Louie covers.
00:00:40.000 Actually, that's a cover.
00:00:41.000 It's an old Jamaican song.
00:00:42.000 Me find little grocery waits for me.
00:00:44.000 Me catch a ship across the sea.
00:00:46.000 It was considered offensive back when it came out in the 60s, I guess.
00:00:51.000 But then the authorities decided, no, these lyrics are unintelligible at any speed.
00:00:56.000 We got a hell of a show for you tonight, but before we get started, do you like my outfit?
00:01:01.000 This song was from my favorite film, Animal House.
00:01:06.000 And I got this outfit for CPAC.
00:01:09.000 See?
00:01:11.000 You can do what you want to us, but I'm not going to sit here and let you bad-mouth the American people.
00:01:19.000 I don't think he's empty.
00:01:20.000 The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules or took a few liberties with our female party guests.
00:01:28.000 We did.
00:01:30.000 And then he winks at Dean Werner because he had sex with Dean Werner.
00:01:34.000 But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few sick, perverted individuals.
00:01:43.000 Or if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system?
00:01:48.000 And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general?
00:02:00.000 I put it to you, Greg.
00:02:02.000 Isn't this an indictment of our entire American society?
00:02:08.000 Wow.
00:02:09.000 Beautiful, beautiful moment.
00:02:12.000 Wait a minute.
00:02:12.000 That's not today's newspaper.
00:02:14.000 Shoot, I forgot to bring it.
00:02:16.000 Who cares?
00:02:16.000 Let's get rolling here.
00:02:17.000 We don't have time.
00:02:18.000 Jam-packed show for you today.
00:02:20.000 We have my favorite author of all time, the author of Death of the West, which changed my life forever.
00:02:26.000 I read it around September 11th, and it was a political awakening for me and a lot of people I know.
00:02:33.000 He's the original red pillar, the OG red pill, Pat Buchanan.
00:02:37.000 We're not going to talk about Death of the West, though.
00:02:39.000 We're going to be talking about Churchill, Hitler, and the unnecessary war, because Churchill's hot right now, and this is the only thing I've ever read that says, we shouldn't have done that.
00:02:48.000 We should have just given him some embargoes and given him Danzig in Poland and the whole. 0.99
00:02:54.000 We could have avoided two world wars.
00:02:57.000 I'll touch on this a little bit, too, on it.
00:03:00.000 And then we have Amanda House coming by. 0.75
00:03:02.000 She is the deputy political editor at Breitbart News.
00:03:05.000 She co-hosts the Breitbart News show on Saturday and Sunday on the weekends on Sirius Patriot.
00:03:11.000 If you listen to that on your car on the weekends.
00:03:14.000 But these interviews, I want to spend so much time on them that I don't have any more time to do an intro.
00:03:20.000 So let's start with Pat and then we'll get to Amanda.
00:03:26.000 This is a hot time for Churchill.
00:03:28.000 He's hot.
00:03:29.000 He's also dead.
00:03:30.000 We've got lots of Hollywood movies talking about him and it made me curious to sort of go back over his life.
00:03:37.000 This is an incredible book, Candace Millard, Hero of the Empire.
00:03:41.000 And it's basically about what an incredible hero Churchill was in the Boer War in South Africa and how he helped win it by escaping from a POW camp, originally as a war reporter.
00:03:53.000 But I'm reading between the lines, and I'm not sure Millard intended this, but I'm thinking, this guy's a bit of a douche.
00:04:00.000 I mean, he came from a long line of aristocrats and war heroes, and I think he was determined to make his mark.
00:04:07.000 Logic be damned.
00:04:09.000 And I started to notice that with World War II and World War I, where this guy seemed more intent on winning battles than he did on minimizing deaths.
00:04:20.000 He was also a drunk, and I couldn't help but think liquid courage is part of history.
00:04:25.000 Anyway, I'm demeaning my next guest, Pat Buchanan, by speaking in crude manners, but I'm a dummy.
00:04:32.000 I'm like a dumb guy pretending to be a smart guy pretending to be a dumb guy.
00:04:35.000 It's still a dumb guy twice in that scenario.
00:04:38.000 But I was rereading Buchanan's book, Churchill History and the Unnecessary War, How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World.
00:04:49.000 And in this book, which is heaven on earth, Pat Buchanan is the best writer in America.
00:04:55.000 I'm sorry.
00:04:56.000 It's amazing how much information he sort of Trojan horses into your brain by speaking in a congenial manner.
00:05:05.000 It's just like listening to a smart friend.
00:05:07.000 And the best thing to do in that scenario, by the way, is just sit back and sip your brandy.
00:05:12.000 In this interview with Buchanan, you're going to see a guy floundering and coming up with bad analogies, trying to keep up with the big guy.
00:05:20.000 But here's the narrative with World War II, all right?
00:05:24.000 Evil Hitler Nazi comes along, is going to take over the world. 0.89
00:05:29.000 America and Britain get together.
00:05:32.000 There might have been a Russian or two involved.
00:05:34.000 And they contain the Nazis, free the slaves, and everyone's happy. 0.89
00:05:42.000 And I've seen this narrative play out again and again, and it's playing out right now with Dunkirk and The Darkest Hour.
00:05:48.000 But even in those Hollywood versions of things, like you watch The Darkest Hour and you see, wait a minute, he had a chance to negotiate a ceasefire, to negotiate peace, and he ignored it.
00:06:00.000 Why?
00:06:01.000 And you realize, wait a minute, it's conceivable that all Hitler wanted was Danzig, a part of Poland that was originally German, and had millions of Germans in it.
00:06:15.000 You know, it was sort of like the Falklands when, here goes my bad analogies, by the way, when the guy from Argentina said, I want the Falklands back, and Thatcher said, you never had the Falklands, and then demanded to keep it.
00:06:28.000 We went to war.
00:06:29.000 Everyone in the Falklands Was British, had British accents.
00:06:31.000 The Danzigs were German, so he should have just let him have it. 1.00
00:06:36.000 But instead, he guaranteed Poland would keep Danzig, which was a dumb move, and later threw Poland to the wolves and allowed concentration camps and all kinds of death over there in Poland. 0.69
00:06:47.000 Just shrugged his shoulders as he let Stalin desecrate that entire country.
00:06:53.000 So it's a matter of reconciling these two narratives.
00:06:57.000 The one where Hitler just wanted one thing and we sort of forced him into war and killed, how many people died in World War II?
00:07:04.000 Upwards of 80 million in total.
00:07:08.000 20 million, I believe.
00:07:09.000 The lowest number I've heard is 60 million.
00:07:11.000 But 20 million of those were Russians, fighting barefoot, no guns. 0.97
00:07:16.000 I think at the end, we just had Germans who were dying of guilt after just mowing down thousands of Germans, thousands of Russians a day. 0.93
00:07:26.000 I'm going to hell.
00:07:28.000 So this is the original narrative.
00:07:30.000 When you look at this chart, right?
00:07:32.000 You scroll along it, and you see a guy.
00:07:36.000 You see, 1940, it looks, you know, semi-reasonable.
00:07:40.000 I don't know what the hell he's doing up in Finland, but then it starts progressing with Italy, and now we start to see this problem where we've got all of France and North Africa, and we start drifting in to Greece slowly.
00:07:56.000 Look at that.
00:07:57.000 So now we have Eastern Europe, we've got Greece, we've got the Balkans, we've got some neutral countries.
00:08:03.000 Spain, it's telling that he didn't invade Spain because Buchanan's contention is he didn't want a westward war.
00:08:09.000 He doesn't have a navy.
00:08:10.000 He's already seen in World War I that going east and west at the same time doesn't work.
00:08:14.000 So just let him have that.
00:08:15.000 And if he wants to go east, here's the controversial part.
00:08:19.000 Let him go east.
00:08:20.000 Yes, he hates gypsies and Jews and all that stuff.
00:08:23.000 That's horrible, horrific.
00:08:26.000 But Stalin's worse. 0.56
00:08:28.000 So let's let him spread up, destroy Stalin, and then let him die on his own. 0.67
00:08:32.000 Remember, what was it, Henry Kissinger said of the Iran-Iraq war?
00:08:36.000 Oh, can't they both lose?
00:08:38.000 And I don't want to put words in Buchanan's mouth, but I think he was saying, let Hitler spread east and let them both lose.
00:08:46.000 So this narrative of this, I shouldn't say narrative because you're looking at a chart, but this chart of the red plague, the Axis powers spreading, and then eventually America and Britain and Stalin uniting to slowly push it back, isn't as simple as it seems.
00:09:05.000 In fact, all this red, the Axis powers you see on this chart here, eventually being pushed back is more and more death, Russian deaths, Jewish deaths, American and British deaths that we didn't need. 0.87
00:09:21.000 So yes, this chart, from a layman's perspective, looks like red guy, and that's a bad color to use, red, because it makes me think of a communist, but Nazi guy spreading, getting contained. 0.77
00:09:34.000 But I don't think it's that.
00:09:35.000 It's Nazi guys starting to spread, heading east, and then other people getting involved and almost forcing Hitler's hand.
00:09:46.000 Again, no one is defending Hitler. 0.68
00:09:49.000 We're allowed to have open discussions.
00:09:51.000 But the reason all of this is relevant is not just because Churchill's back in the public eye and everyone's talking about him.
00:09:57.000 I think the BBC's got a big thing about an illicit affair he had.
00:10:00.000 He's hot.
00:10:02.000 But the bigger picture here is the conflict, this obsession with Nazis and fascists, and this total pass we give communists.
00:10:12.000 Mao killed 80 million.
00:10:15.000 Stalin killed 40 million.
00:10:16.000 Hitler, horrific, killed 6 million. 0.62
00:10:21.000 80 million is much worse than 6 million.
00:10:23.000 6 million is terrible.
00:10:24.000 But in America today, we've got Oliver Stone talking about how awesome Stalin is.
00:10:29.000 It's cool to have a Mao t-shirt.
00:10:31.000 We've got Shea Guevara hats on.
00:10:35.000 We're talking, Bernie Sanders is a proud socialist that all these students are voting for.
00:10:40.000 Socialism is cool, and Nazis are the worst thing.
00:10:44.000 They're both the worst thing.
00:10:47.000 So I don't understand why we have this obsession with fascism when it tends to cannibalize itself anyway.
00:10:52.000 And I'll talk about that with Buchanan, the head of the British Fascist Party, ended up siding with his own country because fascists are parochial.
00:11:03.000 Any Hoosers, let's talk to Mr. Buchanan and try to see what the smart people have to say about this subject. 0.95
00:11:11.000 Mr. Buchanan, are you there, sir?
00:11:14.000 I certainly am, Davin, right here.
00:11:16.000 Now, we're in a funny time here.
00:11:16.000 Wonderful.
00:11:18.000 We're in an epoch of Churchill Mania.
00:11:21.000 Excuse me.
00:11:23.000 We've got Dunkirk, the movie, The Darkest Hour.
00:11:26.000 I think the BBC is doing something about an illicit affair he had.
00:11:30.000 And it's making a lot of people sort of go back over his life.
00:11:33.000 And I just finished Hero of the Empire by Candice Millard.
00:11:36.000 And I also went back over your book, Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War.
00:11:42.000 Right.
00:11:43.000 And this guy is turning out to be a little more complex than Hollywood is portraying him as.
00:11:51.000 Let me talk to that.
00:11:52.000 What you're seeing in both movies, and I've seen both movies, Dunkirk and the other one is The Darkest Hour.
00:12:01.000 They focus on a period of Churchill's life, which was really basically a couple of weeks.
00:12:06.000 I mean, after the Germans came into France in May 10th, and you had, towards the end of May, the British retreat from Dunkirk, and you had the decision by Churchill not to accept any offers of negotiation, but to pursue the war.
00:12:22.000 And Churchill himself, those were his finest hours in the Battle of Britain later on that summer.
00:12:29.000 So I think that's a great moment in Churchill's life, but he came into the cabinet in 1911, into the cabinet as a major figure as the first Lord of the Admiralty in 1911, and his career ran through 1945 and again back in 1951 to 55, where he was Prime Minister.
00:12:49.000 So if you take the sweep of his entire career, I think he's a heroic figure.
00:12:54.000 He's a brave man.
00:12:55.000 He's extraordinarily eloquent and gifted.
00:12:58.000 But he was an utter disaster For the cause in which he believed, which was the British Empire and the retention of that empire and the greatness of that nation.
00:13:07.000 I mean, he led his country into two world wars.
00:13:10.000 He was enthusiastic about them.
00:13:13.000 Britain declared war on Germany in both of those wars.
00:13:17.000 And Churchill was all for that when the Germans, whether it was the Kaiser or even Hitler, evil as he was, did not want war with Great Britain.
00:13:26.000 Yeah.
00:13:27.000 Well, even though watching Dunkirk, it seems kind of easy.
00:13:33.000 Even when you watch the Hollywood narrative, you go, wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:13:36.000 In Dunkirk, I see, you know, local citizens with fishing boats rescue basically all of Britain's army, and it starts to look like Hitler let them win that particular struggle.
00:13:49.000 Well, I think there are cases been made that Hitler did not want British prisoners.
00:13:55.000 Secondly, he did not want to humiliate the British Empire.
00:13:58.000 He was a great admirer of the British Empire.
00:14:00.000 He did not want to rub their noses in a defeat.
00:14:03.000 He wanted, after he had overrun France, to end the war.
00:14:08.000 There was nothing more for him to gain.
00:14:11.000 I mean, he had France, as it were.
00:14:13.000 He had not wanted a war in the West ever.
00:14:16.000 As I said, he admired the British Empire.
00:14:18.000 He wanted it to be preserved.
00:14:20.000 And he did not want to humiliate Great Britain, and he wanted to cut a deal.
00:14:25.000 And then, I mean, Churchill could have gotten an excellent deal where he was in June of 1940.
00:14:34.000 And after the Battle of Britain, which the British won, shooting down all those Heinkel and Dohertier bombers and measuresmiths, he could have gotten an even better deal. 0.97
00:14:43.000 I don't know that the Germans wanted anything from him.
00:14:47.000 Yeah, well, I emailed you earlier that YouTube video.
00:14:51.000 And in 1940, everything in your book makes sense.
00:14:56.000 And I'm sorry, your whole book makes perfect sense.
00:14:58.000 It's hard to fit in one's head because it's the only book that makes this contrarian argument that I've seen.
00:15:04.000 No, well, I'll tell you, I read about 120 books, not all of them.
00:15:08.000 I mean, not all of them in their entirety.
00:15:11.000 But there are a number of British critics and fine writers who were quoted in that book.
00:15:16.000 I think it's 1,500 footnotes there.
00:15:19.000 And many of them argued about the blunders and mistakes Churchill was responsible for or participated in.
00:15:26.000 Let me give you one of the crucial ones.
00:15:29.000 The war began for Great Britain.
00:15:32.000 They declared war on Germany because the Germans had invaded Poland, which would not negotiate the return of Danzig, which was a German city unjustly taken away from Germany in violation of the terms Woodrow Wilson put down and in violation of the right of self-determination.
00:15:51.000 Now, why would the British declare that they're going to go to war on Germany, a country they could not defeat, for a nation, Poland, they had no chance of defending?
00:16:02.000 They did not defend.
00:16:04.000 They did not really fight.
00:16:05.000 And they gave a war guarantee to a nation that was not in their vital interest.
00:16:10.000 And the reason they did that, I think, was panic, that they had been humiliated by Hitler at Munich, or thought they were, and that Czechoslovakia had collapsed and Hitler had taken pieces of it.
00:16:23.000 And therefore, they issued a war guarantee to a country, Poland, which had participated in the breakup of Czechoslovakia, which was not a democracy, which they could not defend.
00:16:35.000 And then they declared war on Germany after Germany and the Russians had torn Poland apart. 0.74
00:16:41.000 Why did they not end the war then?
00:16:44.000 Churchill, I mean, the British had failed.
00:16:46.000 They hadn't protected Poland.
00:16:48.000 They sent bombers over Germany with leaflets.
00:16:51.000 And Hitler wanted to end it after the Polish-German war was over. 0.55
00:16:56.000 Why did the Brits continue it?
00:16:58.000 Especially when Churchill, who came, as I said, came to power around May 10th after his disaster in Norway, that Churchill knew that the British alone could not invade, overrun, and force Germany to surrender.
00:17:13.000 They couldn't defeat Germany. 0.97
00:17:14.000 The only way they could defeat them is bring in the great powers, the Americans or the Russians, and that would end up with Stalin in charge of Central Europe. 0.78
00:17:23.000 Did he want that?
00:17:25.000 That's what he got, and that's what he had to know would have happened.
00:17:28.000 Well, that seems to be the theme that keeps coming up in the book, is what is the lesser of two evils, communism or fascism?
00:17:37.000 Well, that's one.
00:17:38.000 That's it exactly.
00:17:40.000 But Britain does have interests in Europe.
00:17:42.000 What they should have done when the Germans invaded Poland was quite simple.
00:17:47.000 You know, they should have taken their army and moved it into France and said, look, here's our line. 0.89
00:17:53.000 If you cross this line into Belgium, Holland, or Luxembourg, or France, you're at war with Great Britain.
00:17:59.000 Churchill would not have attacked.
00:18:02.000 He didn't want war with France.
00:18:03.000 If he'd have wanted war with France, he would have demanded the return of Alsace-Lorraine, which had been taken away from him, the Germans in World War I. But again, he took every step to avoid a war with the West because there was nothing in the West that he wanted or could have.
00:18:19.000 He couldn't have a worldwide empire.
00:18:21.000 He had no navy.
00:18:22.000 His navy was one-third the size of the British, locked up in the Baltic Sea and opposite the Kiel Canal.
00:18:30.000 I mean, the point of it is, I don't defend, and no one defends, the character of Adolf Hitler and what he subsequently did was horrendous. 0.83
00:18:38.000 But if there had been no war guarantee to Poland, there would have been no war.
00:18:44.000 And if there had been no war, there would have been no Holocaust. 0.87
00:18:48.000 So much of this just comes down to the evils of communism and Westerners ignoring the evils of communism.
00:18:55.000 I mean, you hear Churchill praising Stalin again and again, and it reminds me of the New York Times take on Stalin, and even modern times with Hollywood, with Oliver Stone excusing, you know, Holo Domor and all these massive genocides. 0.86
00:19:10.000 They had genocides of Germans.
00:19:12.000 We had two million die when they were forced to move, and 750,000 starved to death in the blockades.
00:19:19.000 Well, let me say this.
00:19:20.000 What was the starvation blockade of World War I, which I think was...
00:19:27.000 It was Churchill that began the bombing of cities.
00:19:30.000 He bombed German cities, and the Germans repeatedly told him to stop it, and then they came back and bombed London.
00:19:37.000 But that was retaliation for what the British had done. 0.80
00:19:40.000 They were the first to introduce this strategic bombing, which is one of the reasons city bombing was not an issue discussed at Nuremberg as a war crime.
00:19:49.000 I mean, early before the war, FDR said, God help us, I hope we don't get to the bombing of cities.
00:19:55.000 And pretty soon you've got Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Dresden, Cologne, Berlin.
00:20:01.000 So, but let me say this.
00:20:03.000 I mean, you know, I'm as much an anti-communist as anyone, but you have to look at the vital interest of your country, what you can do and what you can't do.
00:20:13.000 You know, I was marching around Georgetown with an M1 rifle in ROTC when the Khrushchev sent tanks into Hungary and rolled over those patriots who had risen up.
00:20:24.000 And Eisenhower did exactly nothing.
00:20:26.000 He said, this is horrible.
00:20:27.000 It is atrocious what Khrushchev is doing.
00:20:30.000 But it is not a vital interest to where we can justify risking a war with a nuclear-armed power.
00:20:36.000 So I'm not going in.
00:20:37.000 And as a matter of fact, we're going to have to talk to Khrushchev, and he invited him to the United States.
00:20:42.000 Gavin, I was right outside the White House when Khrushchev walked by.
00:20:46.000 We were all silent watching him.
00:20:48.000 Unbelievable.
00:20:50.000 All right.
00:20:51.000 Let's get down to layman's terms because I'm dumb and my viewers are around the same IQ.
00:20:58.000 You're President Buchanan.
00:21:00.000 The Danzig blunder has already happened.
00:21:04.000 The Japanese have bombed Pearl Harbor.
00:21:06.000 How do you proceed?
00:21:08.000 Well, if the Japanese have bombed Pearl Harbor, you've got to fight the Japanese, and I don't disagree at all with how we fought them. 1.00
00:21:16.000 We decided it's all-out war, and we're going to finish off not only the we're not only going to pay them back, but we're going to finish off the Japanese Empire, which by 1942 was in control of the Philippines and much of Southeast Asia and the coast of China. 0.93
00:21:32.000 And so I think the United States fought that war correctly.
00:21:36.000 And when Hitler stupidly declared war on the United States in December 10th or December 11th, 1941, when he didn't have to, his treaty with Japan required him to come to Japan's defense if Japan had been attacked. 0.57
00:21:53.000 But Japan had started the war and everyone knew it.
00:21:56.000 So stupidly, he declares war on the United States and a year later, and then Italy declares war on the United States.
00:22:04.000 Mussolini, what a fool.
00:22:06.000 And so the Americans, you know, I had uncles, all four of them, fought in the ETO.
00:22:12.000 But I think we did what we had to do.
00:22:14.000 But what we did should have realized, and what the FDR did not seem to realize, is that when we went to war against Germany, with Britain at our side in the West and the Russians in the East, and Hitler had been stopped and his armies had been stopped, that Germany was going to lose the war.
00:22:31.000 But the Soviet Empire, the Soviet Union, was going to wind up in the middle of Europe conquering all the countries that Hitler had initially conquered or initially allied with.
00:22:41.000 And that he was a greater monster than Hitler, a far greater danger, given the size of his country and its resources, than Germany ever was. 0.95
00:22:49.000 I mean, the Soviet Union must be 20 times the size of Germany.
00:22:53.000 So maybe it would have been good for the Nazis to go and kick Stalin's ass, and then we could clean up the Nazi mess easier than we could clean up the communist mess. 0.93
00:23:03.000 Well, go back, Google Harry Truman, Nazis and Bolsheviks, and what he said in 1941, I believe it was.
00:23:13.000 Yes, it had to be because Hitler invaded the Soviet Union in June of 1941.
00:23:20.000 He said, you know, if the Bolsheviks are losing, we help them.
00:23:25.000 And if the Nazis are losing, we help them in order that these two folks just keep on fighting. 0.84
00:23:31.000 And that's a benefit to us, although I don't want to see the Nazis win in any event. 0.95
00:23:36.000 I mean, the Nazis were, I mean, when I was a kid, and, you know, we're Roman Catholic and everything, the Bolsheviks and communism were far more greatly feared and despised than Hitler's Germany, which was not admired at all, but it was not seen as a threat to us.
00:23:55.000 But in the long term, the Soviet Union was.
00:23:59.000 And that analysis was correct.
00:24:02.000 It's funny, we still see this in 2018.
00:24:05.000 We have the mainstream media obsessed with Nazis, like they're looming around every corner.
00:24:10.000 I mean, if you were to wear a Hitler tote bag, you would be stoned to death. 0.83
00:24:16.000 But you see Mao and Che Guevara and all this socialist claptrap everywhere when you look at the death toll and they're not even comparable.
00:24:25.000 No, I mean, there's a quote in my book that is from a historian, American historian, and I just read it last night.
00:24:34.000 And it was, if you take the date September 1, 1939, when the war began, the number of victims of Stalin's murders and massacres and concentrations camps exceeded Hitler's 1,000 to 1.
00:24:52.000 Hitler had opened up Dachau after the Reichstag fire, and it was a concentration camp.
00:24:59.000 It wasn't what they called a death camp.
00:25:01.000 And he had a number of people imprisoned there for political and other reasons.
00:25:05.000 In the Knight of the Long Knives, they had murdered a number of people, mostly SA people, but even ex-prime ministers were murdered.
00:25:14.000 That was in 1934, I believe.
00:25:17.000 But, I mean, these were the great atrocities, that in Kristallnach, before the war began.
00:25:25.000 And as I say, Stalin's victims were a thousand times greater, and Mao's would be greater than Stalin's.
00:25:32.000 But communism is not regarded as as great an evil as Nazism now.
00:25:37.000 And the reason is, of course, the folks who are producing the films and things are mainly folks on the left for whom the right is always the greater demonic enemy.
00:25:47.000 Right.
00:25:47.000 Well, I thought one of the most fascinating little snippets, and it's only maybe a sentence here, is you were talking about how fascism doesn't take, because it's very particular to that.
00:25:58.000 Nationalism is particular to that nation.
00:26:01.000 And you talked about the head of the British Union of Fascists, Oswald Mosley.
00:26:07.000 When Hitler declared war on Britain, he obviously sided with Britain because that was his allegiance. 0.89
00:26:12.000 His allegiance, it's not like Islam, where it goes above your countrymen. 0.96
00:26:16.000 His allegiance was to his country.
00:26:19.000 So he said, Goodbye, fascist Hitler.
00:26:21.000 I don't like you.
00:26:22.000 I want to fight against you.
00:26:23.000 And I think that's what would happen as fascism spread.
00:26:27.000 Well, this is true.
00:26:29.000 Generally, these fascist and right-wing movements that arose in Europe out of fear, many of them out of fear of Bolshevism, which was a transnational faith, if you will, a transnational movement.
00:26:43.000 I mean, Trotsky wanted to immediately make the whole world communist.
00:26:47.000 His army drove up to the Vistula River in Poland, raided Warsaw and had the merico of the Vistula in around 1920.
00:26:56.000 But if you take what happens with Salazar in Portugal and General Franco in Spain and even Mussolini I of them in Italy, and you take in Hungary, they had Admiral Horthy, who took over when Bolsheviks tried to take it over, and Hitler in Germany, and the Communists in 1920 had Karl Liebknick and the woman that was murdered.
00:27:23.000 They were all right-wing regimes in reaction to the Bolsheviks, and they were all deeply nationalistic and ethno-nationalistic.
00:27:32.000 In other words, but that, again, because they were not transnational, they really didn't deeply concern themselves about what was happening among their neighbors.
00:27:41.000 It was all about them and their country and their nation and the bulk and the ideology and all the rest of it.
00:27:48.000 But the ideology, I mean, there was a silver abundance here in the United States, but it was nothing compared to the Communist Party of the United States and the Communist movement and the penetration by Stalin's agents of FDR's government from the 30s into the 40s.
00:28:05.000 And the Nazis had nothing like that because they weren't a transnational movement.
00:28:10.000 I hope people's curiosity about Churchill leads to the point where they discover his hypocrisy via Stalin and his hypocrisy via the communist regimes.
00:28:19.000 Tell the folks they'll find a lot of us in Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War by Pat Buchanan.
00:28:26.000 I'll do just that.
00:28:27.000 Thank you very much for coming on the show.
00:28:29.000 You take it easy.
00:28:30.000 Bye-bye.
00:28:31.000 Cheers.
00:28:33.000 That's my baby long, baby long Amanda House, are you there?
00:28:39.000 I'm here.
00:28:40.000 Hi.
00:28:41.000 How's it going?
00:28:42.000 Going well.
00:28:43.000 Going well.
00:28:43.000 It's a good Tuesday.
00:28:44.000 It is a good Tuesday.
00:28:47.000 I've been watching the news a lot, and I'm learning a lot from teenagers.
00:28:51.000 Apparently, it's important that we boycott anyone who supports the NRA, including airlines and FedEx, to make our voices heard.
00:29:00.000 Yeah, this is definitely an interesting turning point in this whole post-Florida tragedy, post-you know, we're talking about gun control, whatnot.
00:29:09.000 And now we have these, you know, especially, well, the media essentially exploiting, and from what I'm seeing, exploiting these children that have gone through a huge tragedy and are suffering and probably don't need to be put into the spotlight.
00:29:23.000 But we see them using these children to advocate their leftist agenda.
00:29:28.000 This is, you know, it's an anti-gun, anti-NRA, anti-constitutional rights agenda.
00:29:35.000 And instead of focusing back on school safety, which remember, Florida had nothing to do really with gun control.
00:29:42.000 It had to do with just complete incompetence and negligence on behalf of not only the local, but also the federal government.
00:29:52.000 And there was multiple warning signs, dozens of those that were ignored.
00:29:56.000 But instead of talking about that, the left and especially Broward County is pointing the finger at gun control.
00:30:02.000 And of course, like you just mentioned, we have multiple teenagers who when I was 16, 17, I didn't even know probably how to mail a FedEx package, let alone their business model or their partnerships.
00:30:15.000 But of course, they're virtue signaling that we have to cut ties with not only FedEx, but Delta, Amazon Prime, I mean, you name it, all of these organizations that might give a discount to their NRA members.
00:30:28.000 Of course, yesterday we actually saw a victory on behalf of the right.
00:30:33.000 FedEx actually put out a statement saying that they were not going to be cutting ties with their deal with the NRA, which was a huge victory for the right, probably the first victory that we've seen on the right against corporate warfare.
00:30:47.000 And that's essentially what this is, Gavin.
00:30:49.000 I mean, this is the left using mob, you know, threats, like mob threat to force organizations to bow down to their wants and their needs.
00:31:01.000 And of course, you know, in this case, it is anti-gun, anti-NRA.
00:31:06.000 Anti-everything that the right stands for and fights for.
00:31:09.000 And fortunately, FedEx did put their foot down and say, no, we're not going to do this.
00:31:14.000 We're going to keep doing what we've always been doing, and that is giving discounts, benefits to both the right and the left.
00:31:20.000 And that was definitely a huge victory.
00:31:22.000 And their stocks are going through the roof.
00:31:25.000 I think it's funny that these people.
00:31:26.000 Who would have known that if you actually do right by your customers, that people will invest in you.
00:31:34.000 Who would have guessed?
00:31:35.000 Well, especially in America.
00:31:36.000 It's like when Will Smith did that movie about how football is evil and it gives you concussions.
00:31:41.000 The elites, the CEOs, the marketing people, the media, they don't know America.
00:31:47.000 America loves football, Will Smith.
00:31:49.000 America loves guns.
00:31:50.000 And you're so out of touch to think that we're all going to flock to these boycotts because a teenager is in a bad mood.
00:31:57.000 Right.
00:31:58.000 And I mean, this is, I mean, the argument against this, of course, it all came because of, you know, down in Georgia, they decided they were going to say no to the Delta's tax break that they've been trying to push for for jet fuel.
00:32:13.000 And there, you know, a lieutenant general down there who's running for governor, he said, if you guys are going to be playing a viewpoint politics, viewpoint, you know, identity, whatever, we're not going to play your game.
00:32:23.000 If you want to play ball, we're going to play it with you.
00:32:26.000 And we're going to do exactly what you're doing to our NRA members.
00:32:30.000 Of course, Georgia being an extremely conservative state, controlled by the Republicans in their state legislator.
00:32:36.000 And the counter-argument is we don't want government picking winners and losers.
00:32:43.000 So the argument of these legislators was: well, you guys already started picking winners and losers by discounting the NRA.
00:32:53.000 And in a perfect world, sure, we shouldn't be telling corporations, the government should be telling corporations what to do and what not to do.
00:33:03.000 But this is not a perfect world.
00:33:05.000 The left is already doing this.
00:33:06.000 We see this down in Texas, telling different companies that if they help with the building of the wall, then they're going to be disadvantaged in one way or another.
00:33:16.000 But let's be honest, Gavin, like these companies shouldn't be getting tax breaks to begin with.
00:33:21.000 So that, of course, being the Delta airline industry company.
00:33:25.000 But FedEx saw that and said, oh, hold on.
00:33:28.000 We don't want to make the same mistake.
00:33:30.000 We're going to just kind of back out of this, stay out of politics, which is a big good move as we've seen all these other sort of leftist companies making this mistake with the NFL, whatever you want to, all those examples you just mentioned.
00:33:45.000 It's never a good move to sort of lose touch with your base and lose touch with your family.
00:33:52.000 That's whatever.
00:33:53.000 Charles Marie and coming apart.
00:33:54.000 They've lost touch.
00:33:55.000 The elites have lost touch with America.
00:33:58.000 And I understand that United and Delta have only ever used water pistols for their air marshals.
00:34:02.000 They never use actual guns.
00:34:04.000 So they can get on their high horse.
00:34:07.000 Let's cut the crap here.
00:34:09.000 What's really going on is these teenagers have a lot in common with the left.
00:34:13.000 They don't care about bump stocks.
00:34:14.000 They don't care about AR-15s or magazines.
00:34:17.000 They want total and utter gun bans.
00:34:28.000 They want to repeal the Second Amendment.
00:34:30.000 Well, this is what the left does.
00:34:32.000 It's just this never-ending push.
00:34:35.000 You give an inch and they take a mile.
00:34:37.000 When they say, oh, we just want to, you know, change the age limit from 18 to 21.
00:34:42.000 No, it's not going to stop there.
00:34:44.000 Again, not to mention that this conversation has nothing to do with gun control.
00:34:48.000 The Florida shooting could have been stopped if the law agencies, law enforcement officials had done their jobs.
00:34:54.000 And what, 39 times being called to his house, reported now maybe even 45 calls.
00:35:00.000 Can you imagine someone calling you 45 to maybe 39 times and not doing anything?
00:35:06.000 This has nothing to do with gun control.
00:35:08.000 Yet, here we have these children who, they're 15, 16, 17 years old, potentially being given talking points from maybe their mentors or their parents or whomever, or maybe even just getting such positive feedback from the networks, the CNNs out there that are saying, oh, good job, good job.
00:35:29.000 Let's put you back on camera.
00:35:31.000 It's just not how we should be handling situations where children are suffering and going through a lot that no child should ever have to do.
00:35:39.000 They're talking about background checks.
00:35:40.000 I believe the NRA and Dana Lash said, according to the rules that we advocate, this guy wouldn't have been able to buy a gun.
00:35:47.000 This guy would have been handled a long time ago.
00:35:50.000 We're on that side.
00:35:51.000 Yeah, no, absolutely.
00:35:54.000 This was a complete failure on behalf of potentially some of the school, the Obama administration school pushes to sort of try to end that school to prison pipeline.
00:36:08.000 And they stopped calling in some of the different, I guess, violent behavior that some of their students were having.
00:36:16.000 We'll be putting up a story about that.
00:36:17.000 Actually, we put up a story last night about it, but we'll continue to look into that, curbing some of the discipline at these schools.
00:36:26.000 The reason we have to watch the left, and Tucker Carlson was talking about this last night, it always ends up being a slippery slope.
00:36:31.000 Gay marriage sounded good.
00:36:33.000 I've supported it.
00:36:34.000 And then it became bullying bakers and trying to shut down Catholicism in general, making Christianity. 0.96
00:36:43.000 They will never be happy, and it's always going to be something else.
00:36:46.000 Now, speaking of being happy, let's get to what's really important here.
00:36:49.000 You're in a city where I believe 2% of the populace voted for Trump.
00:36:54.000 Republicans don't like in there because he wants to drain the swamp.
00:36:57.000 How are we going to find you, Mr. Wright?
00:37:00.000 Oh, man, that's a tough question.
00:37:02.000 It's a question that I think a lot of my friends here, it's a very small town.
00:37:08.000 I know you're in New York, and it's probably a little similar, but here it's definitely a small town if you are a conservative and not just a conservative, but a Trump supporter, you know, someone that there's some never Trumpers here, but really those on the further, you know, Trump spectrum, I guess as you want to call it, there's so few of us.
00:37:28.000 And especially working at Breitbar, you know, it's definitely a big taboo.
00:37:32.000 And yeah, dating is not really a thing.
00:37:36.000 I mean, you can do it.
00:37:38.000 There's obviously some of the more like Tinders, which I don't think I've ever used that one.
00:37:43.000 But there's other ones kind of like that.
00:37:46.000 And I find actually now many of my friends are just saying right up front, I am a Trump supporter.
00:37:52.000 Like they're a profile picture as a MAGA hat, just to sort of weed out, because the worst thing is when you go to a date, which I've been on multiple of these, where, you know, we were raised not to mention politics until further along in the relationship or, you know, maybe date three at the earliest.
00:38:09.000 Those just aren't conversations that we were raised to have.
00:38:12.000 But now I find that if you don't have those conversations, even before, you know, meeting or whatever, it's going to be bad.
00:38:19.000 I've actually had somebody get up on a date and walk out.
00:38:22.000 It's never good.
00:38:23.000 And it's so, it's just embarrassing.
00:38:25.000 My sister actually mentioned on one of her dates that her sister, me, works at Breitbart.
00:38:31.000 And they just, the rest of the date was how much he hated Breitbart and how much, you know, they could never be together.
00:38:38.000 They would never work out because I worked.
00:38:40.000 It's like, wow, like just because your sister works somewhere, that's crazy.
00:38:43.000 That's so much vitriol, too.
00:38:44.000 Like, I had lunch once with the guy.
00:38:47.000 I think he co-founded Mike or Vox or something.
00:38:50.000 And Ann Coulter came up and he talked about how he would like to skin her alive, how she should be boiled alive.
00:38:56.000 And it's like, I don't like the left.
00:38:57.000 I don't like Rachel Maddow, but I don't even want to put a pie in her face. 1.00
00:39:01.000 I don't really feel that animosity.
00:39:03.000 Well, the Trump derangement syndrome is a real thing.
00:39:06.000 And these people really, they have physical reactions.
00:39:11.000 It's not just emotion.
00:39:12.000 It's actually, I feel as if they can't even be in the same room with someone that supports Trump or writes for Breitpart or whatever.
00:39:22.000 And it's not the best town to find your significant other if you are on the right.
00:39:28.000 Even if you're like, you look like if you had food poisoning, you couldn't go below an eight and then dressed up for like a show or a ball.
00:39:38.000 You'd definitely be killing it in the nine zone.
00:39:41.000 And even you are having trouble with this Trump thing.
00:39:46.000 And I think that's a reflection of just how our society has shifted over the past few decades, probably even arguably over the past decade, in that it is now more and more important not just to find somebody that you agree on in terms of like, oh, we both like soccer, we both like this, we both want two kids, but it's, you know, now finding someone that you believe, you know, the same ideology, the same political beliefs is so important because these are the conversations now that we're having every night at the dinner table.
00:40:17.000 Every place we go, politics has, you know, sort of seeped into it, like the NFL, like, you know, you name it, politics has kind of gotten itself in there.
00:40:27.000 And it's so difficult to have a conversation without bringing up politics or some sort of, you know, political whatever.
00:40:35.000 And so, yeah, absolutely.
00:40:37.000 Quickly establishing what you believe in and where you fall seems to be the norm now, which, of course, you know, 10 years ago, that just wasn't the case.
00:40:46.000 I guess.
00:40:46.000 I mean, I'm married to a vegan liberal who voted for Hillary, but we have so many babies now, we can't separate.
00:40:53.000 I think you should cut your hair short, dye it blue, wear a bring Obama back shirt, and every time someone mentions Trump, say, how stupid do they think we are?
00:41:03.000 And then get a ring on it, and then you can grow your hair back and be normal again.
00:41:07.000 Funny you say that.
00:41:08.000 I was doing some of the sort of protest coverage outside of the DNC, and very quickly, the Antifa, the resistance, they spotted like my peak iPhone, and I was wearing grungy outfits.
00:41:19.000 I was sort of like trying to blend in with the crowd.
00:41:22.000 Nope, they called me out within moments and said, she's not one of us. 0.82
00:41:25.000 Get her out. 1.00
00:41:26.000 They can sense it.
00:41:29.000 We went twice as long as the time we had allotted.
00:41:32.000 You're so charming that time is just, it's like hanging out with the flash.
00:41:37.000 And I can't even see you.
00:41:38.000 I'm just talking to myself over here.
00:41:41.000 Well, we're about the same gorgeousness.
00:41:44.000 I'm also high eights, low nines kind of a looker.
00:41:47.000 I can tell from your profile pic, for sure.
00:41:49.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:41:50.000 All right, Amanda, I'd love to have you back.
00:41:51.000 Thanks so much for coming on the show.
00:41:53.000 Thank you.
00:41:54.000 See you later.
00:41:55.000 night Well, you can do what you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you, bad mouth, the United States of America.
00:42:11.000 gentlemen You're not walking out of this one, mister.
00:42:21.000 You're finished.
00:42:23.000 More Delta.
00:42:26.000 You bought it this time, Buster.
00:42:29.000 I'm calling your national office.
00:42:31.000 All right, that's enough.
00:42:33.000 I'm going to revoke yourself.
00:42:34.000 I don't like it when he bangs that thing because it's called a gavel and it sounds close to Gavin and it makes me feel uncomfortable.
00:42:40.000 I just, I love that movie because it's the first time I've ever seen, and I was a young man when I saw it, and I thought, yeah, why do we imbue authority on all these people?
00:42:49.000 They're going to kick us out of school?
00:42:50.000 Fine.
00:42:50.000 This school's stupid.
00:42:54.000 It's a great anarchist, all-American film because it says, don't let someone else tell you what to do.
00:43:00.000 And I've noticed that people call us conservatives, the Niedermeyer and the Dean Werner.
00:43:05.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:43:06.000 We're the ones getting kicked off campus.
00:43:08.000 We're the ones breaking the rules.
00:43:10.000 We're the ones in big trouble who get fired, who get kicked off social media.
00:43:14.000 We're the ones who get arrested.
00:43:16.000 We're the ones who get attacked, who get hit with baseball bats when we go to the bathroom by these insane antifa lunatics.
00:43:26.000 So I'm afraid that the right is the in-crowd now.
00:43:30.000 Not the in-crowd, the cool crowd, the freaks, the monsters.
00:43:34.000 We're the weirdos.
00:43:36.000 And you, liberal mainstream media, are the squares.
00:43:41.000 You don't take any risks.
00:43:42.000 You let people boss you around.
00:43:45.000 You say the police are corrupt and the government's wrong, and then you say the government should take our guns and regulate more things.
00:43:52.000 God, you're a bunch of nerds.
00:43:54.000 Anyway, this was the paper I meant to have, ticking time bomb.
00:43:56.000 Got the thorgish Noah Syndergaard on the front and something about de Blasio the pothead being late all the time.
00:44:03.000 Who cares?
00:44:04.000 I hope you had a fun show.