The Covington Catholic High School cancels school because of "death threats" from a group of angry white men. Why is there so much vitriol directed at people like those kids? And why is it so hard to get along with white people who don't seem to have anything on their Venn diagram but a hatred of white men? And what does that have to do with China and peeing in your coke? We talk about all that and more on this week's episode of Thick & Thin with John Rocha and Matt Knost's new podcast, Thick and Thin. Also, we talk about a lot of other stuff, too, but that's not really what this episode is about, is it? Enjoy! John and Matt Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. The opinions stated here are our own and do not necessarily those of our companies, unless otherwise stated. We do not own the rights to any of the music used in this podcast. All credit given to any other music used is given to us by our patrons. If you enjoyed this podcast, please leave us a review and/or a rating and review in the comments section below. Thank you for all the support and support we are a good friend of the podcast. We appreciate it greatly. xoxo -John and Matt. -Mavus and Matt's music is produced by and the words used in the podcast is not copyrighted property of . by a third party. . We are not affiliated with any other podcasting company. and all rights reserved. by , in any way possible is not owned by any other person s copyright infringement is not claimed or any other copyright infringement, other than that which is not stated unless stated by any one else s credit given by them. , etc., etc., etc. or credit is owed to any credit given except any other third party , any other such thing is owed if they choose to use their fair use is anywhere else . or other person else is said to use this podcasting service ? or such such thing, etc.. thanks thank you, etc. etc., any other credit is appreciated any other compensation is appreciated.
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00:00:31.000That's what I want to get to the bottom of today.
00:00:34.000Is why is there so much vitriol directed at people like those kids?
00:00:41.000Now, Ann Coulter said, it's so weird you have like Black Lives Matter and jihadists and you've got Linda Sarsour and these feminists and all these people that don't really seem to get along, Indians, that don't seem to have anything on their Venn diagram but a hatred of white men.
00:01:01.000And I think it's more specific than that.
00:01:08.000And I guess they hate old white men, you know, like Dick Cheney type of guys, but it's more of an eye rolling when it comes to old white men.
00:01:16.000It's like, Oh God, you have more old white men.
00:01:32.000You could leave your coke around him and it'll be fine.
00:01:35.000That's a different part of Asia where they practice that.
00:01:40.000Wouldn't it be funny if that was true, and there was a rash of young Chinese people that would go pee-pee in your Coke, and the rhyme was sort of, it wasn't based to tease anyone, it was to raise awareness.
00:01:53.000It's like that, if you sprinkle when you tinkle, be a sweetie, wipe the seedy, it's just a way to warn, hey guys, he's Chinese, he played joke, he put pee-pee in your Coke, so be careful.
00:02:04.000It's more effective than the ABCs, more necessary.
00:02:13.000I've done it a couple times, as a dare.
00:02:16.000I actually, you know what's fucked up?
00:02:18.000When I lived in Taiwan, I was teaching English, and one of my clients, I was teaching a little kid, and his parents, I got along pretty well with them, they were super rich, and the mom drank pee.
00:02:36.000And it wasn't uncommon for these upper middle class Chinese housewives, these sort of real housewives of Taipei, to drink urine to cure cancer.
00:02:45.000They'll do anything for self-improvement, like rhino horns, pee, babies.
00:03:13.000Like, there's one, every town has this stupid foot shit where you push on various parts of your feet to cure, you know, to help with your lungs.
00:03:25.000And then the whole, like, tiger eye will give you strength and, you know, eating snakes, having snakes in your whiskey and all that weird shit.
00:08:33.000And how weird would that be if you really genuinely think it's heinous and then people around you are having them, oh I got an abortion yesterday, or whatever.
00:08:47.000I'm against abortion and I see that woman at that same march, or maybe it was, no it was one in Florida, bragging about all of her abortions.
00:10:09.000I mean, it's not the funnest vacation in the world, but it is pretty exciting when you're that age and you're in a new city and you're rowdy.
00:11:14.000That's The Who, It's Hard, but it's an album where Pete Townshend was doing his own solo album, so I think he just sort of farted out It's Hard because The Who needed an album, and he put all his energy into his
00:11:28.000His album, which has some weird shit in it.
00:11:31.000Like, rough boys, out on the streets, I wanna suck and taste them.
00:11:46.000I mean, I've been talking about this since before Google, so you could just have stories like that in your head for years and not check on them.
00:12:20.000Alright, so it says, um, after a couple lines, don't walk away, I very nearly missed you, tough boys, come over here, I wanna bite and kiss you.
00:14:31.000He had a snake the size of a sewer pipe living in his rib cage.
00:14:35.000I bet the Who was going, Pete, you've spent all your creativity writing gay songs for yourself, and you left us with a man who's not afraid of appearing insane because he can't break a brick.
00:14:46.000One time my buddy Eric in high school, I go, do you know the album It's Hard?
00:18:03.000There's that clip where they're like on the street and that woman comes up and she's like, so what you're saying is... She gets right in their face.
00:18:10.000I've seen guys go up to them, young white guys that want to be their friend really badly because it looks cool.
00:18:15.000They're not gonna be your friend, dude.
00:18:17.000But I've seen two different videos of sycophantic white guys literally kissing their boots.
00:22:23.000They're awesome, but they're pretty radical.
00:22:26.000They were like the Black Panthers, not the new Black Panthers who are super radical and want to kill cops, but the 1960s Black Panthers who, you know, you read what they were doing and the 1960s Black Panthers are pretty reasonable.
00:23:10.000And this Indian guy focuses on this one kid who just smiles, not a big smile, but just like a smirk, which I think is the best thing you can do.
00:23:23.000I wasn't pilloring these kids even when I saw the first video.
00:23:26.000I thought they did pretty well in the very first video.
00:23:28.000That's... I guess that makes me radical.
00:23:31.000But what are you supposed to do when someone, and it's clearly not a ceremony, is banging a drum right in your face?
00:23:38.000Is this how cucked we are supposed to be as a nation?
00:23:41.000We're just supposed to, like, if we see any Indian do anything, we just bow down, and when black Hebrew Israelites start screaming N-words at our black friends, we just look at the ground?
00:23:54.000I saw an article in the post this morning where the guy says, you know, they could have been a little more reverent, but boys will be boys.
00:24:00.000And they, they, someone picked a fight with them and they, they didn't back down.
00:24:04.000And I thought, no, they were, I don't understand what they did wrong.
00:24:07.000They didn't know the song was a fuck you.
00:24:10.000And as soon as they started to figure it out, you saw them stop jumping around and just sort of stare going, what the fuck is going on?
00:24:17.000Um, so as you know, I'm sure anyone remotely curious knows, this blew up.
00:24:22.000And the narrative, the black Hebrew Israelites were ignored.
00:24:26.000And then, um, it became, there was a beautiful aboriginal ceremony, indigenous ceremony, and then these kids in mag hats went, ah, ah, ah, and just wrecked it the way Animal House wrecked the parade at the end of the movie Animal House.
00:24:42.000And then the takeaway from that is, we live in a society where we don't respect, you know, Indians, we don't respect black people, we don't respect history, we just have a bunch of spoiled brats who step onto homeless people's cakes on 6th Avenue.
00:26:27.000Anyway, we've all changed now and we don't accept the terms of warfare and Halifax is stolen and has to be given back to whatever tribe it was.
00:26:36.000But this wasn't an Aboriginal ceremony.
00:26:37.000This was just an anti-Canada Day ceremony.
00:26:40.000They had stickers all over the Cornwall statue that said, fuck Canada.
00:26:44.000They had a flag upside down that said, decolonize.
00:28:19.000and they say this take down the one this is one of the weirdest one there's an african immigrant there who is like you need to put down that flag it is a flag of genocide
00:28:28.000So judging by his accent, he's pretty recently new here, right?
00:28:32.000Can you imagine being new to a country like you and I moved to Japan and it's on Japan Day, we have a screw Japan and remember Pearl Harbor and... Yeah, wear your shoes inside.
00:28:59.000It just seems very... Oh, dude, they did way worse than that.
00:29:02.000I mean, like, not that that's... not worse, but all through history, just genocides and rapes and fucking stealing China's culture and Korea.
00:29:57.000And so when you hear Canadians say they burnt down the White House in 1812, they did.
00:30:02.000Cause they were, I know we were Britain back then, but we, the transition from Britain to Canada was very slow and it didn't really, it wasn't really solidified until 1969 when we got the flag and 1980 when we got the national anthem.
00:31:15.000I think he's a Sikh guy up in Canada say, chief grizzly mama, I would like Canada would like to apologize to you for the disruption of your ceremony.
00:31:26.000Like he's falling for the name, the made up name.
00:31:31.000Um, that's like a, yeah, like a, like it's almost as valid as a rapper name.
00:31:36.000Yeah, it's like Henry Kissinger saying, Professor Griff of Public Enemy, on behalf of America, we'd like to apologize for bum-rushing your show.
00:31:51.000So those guys get so much flack and they end up, they didn't get fired, but they had shitty jobs like cleaning latrines.
00:31:59.000And rebel media got a bunch of money together for a complaint, a formal complaint against the Navy.
00:32:05.000Not one lawyer in Halifax would take it because of this stupid narrative that it was about, they didn't want to be known as the lawyer who defended the Indian disruptors.
00:32:15.000And they clearly weren't, A, it wasn't a ceremony, and B, they clearly weren't disrupting it.
00:32:37.000And that's the end of that whole, and lots of Indians are very proud military supporters, because, you know, there's different divisions and tribes, and some tribes, you know, you'll have, there's the medicine guys, and the storytelling guys, and there's the warrior guys, and their job is to war.
00:32:52.000Now, when they've been assimilated into a new country, well, that's still my role, so I guess I'll join their army.
00:33:02.000That's my thing, I'm a shoemaker, I make shoes.
00:33:05.000That's a dangerous lane, man, of all this providing tension between civilians and the police, or civilians and the military.
00:33:16.000Just the building lack of respect, the narrative is just kind of leaning towards... Well the problem with both the military and the police is the top brass is out of touch.
00:36:10.000The story was that there's a rape frat, and they gang raped this chick, and that's what they do, and they threw her down on a glass coffee table, and shards went everywhere, and they fucking raped her.
00:36:23.000Now, anyone who hears that goes, wait, was there blood everywhere?
00:36:28.000I mean, four guys raping a girl on broken glass?
00:36:32.000It must have been an inch of blood on the ground.
00:36:35.000But Tucker often says this, he goes, if you're a reporter and you really hate someone or you really love someone, don't write about them because you won't do a good job.
00:36:42.000And Sabrina clearly, she's got the worst, most annoying name too, Sabrina Erdely, she clearly hates this archetype
00:36:51.000So much, that the second she heard the story, she just got in her Honda Civic and was, uh oh, on her way to Virginia!
00:37:24.000Wheelie Walker Jr., his real name's Ben Hoffman, he said whoever punches that guy in the face and sends him a video, he'll send you all his records autographed.
00:40:13.000Man, so all the comments on this, just like the Gillette commercial has an overwhelming amount of dislike to like ratio and all the comments too.
00:41:43.000This is where we are in America today.
00:41:46.000Like just taking it for, so they, they dropped the first narrative about disrupting the indigenous ceremony and now he's a racist who hates black Muslims.
00:41:54.000But a black Hebrew Israelite did start this thing.
00:42:29.000No, I forget what it was, but I've been checking with like message boards with Vietnam vets and they're all like, what the fuck's a recon ranger?
00:42:38.000And he said, one thing I learned in Vietnam is the feeling of overwhelming power when you know that you've outnumbered someone and you can take them down.
00:42:49.000Um, that really stuck out to me, because I love hearing Vietnam Vets stories, and Vietnam Vets don't talk.
00:43:09.000Fucking get out there like NPR or something, or on Veterans Day, they'll have a bunch of shows and they'll talk about the war and they'll find the like four Vietnam vets who are willing to say anything.
00:45:43.000Yeah, just looking into his eyes and smirking.
00:45:45.000I think that's the best, I think that was the best, well, maybe the best solution would just be to walk away.
00:45:50.000But up there in the top solutions to stand your ground and just have a nice smile as the guy bangs a drum in your face in a very confrontational way.
00:45:59.000See the problem with this whole thing is the Hebrew Israelites and the Indians see that hat as a fuck you.
00:47:40.000There's a particular type, so to get back to the very beginning thing, right, Ann Coulter said the only thing everyone on the left has in common is they all hate white men.
00:47:50.000I think they're very eye-rolly when it comes to old white men.
00:47:53.000The real villain is that kid, the smirking kid.
00:47:57.000So it's not, that's not a white man per se, like they don't hate liberal white men and they don't hate
00:48:03.000You know, Jim Gaffigan, he's incredibly white.
00:50:58.000So, and when I was young, right up until my 20s, date raping jock was just a normal term.
00:51:07.000And I kind of went too far with it and was way off in punk where I didn't even, like, I wasn't allowed to listen to Bruce Springsteen or The Rolling Stones or anything.
00:51:59.000So, and then I start to meet these brads.
00:52:02.000And I'm like, you're kind of a cool guy.
00:52:04.000Like the guy I had an ad agency with was a Brad, and he was in frats when he was young.
00:52:09.000And I remember he told me this story about this chick that wanted to be double teamed by him and this other Brad, and she got nervous and got too drunk and was just puking her guts out.
00:52:21.000So of course the Brad's date raper, because that's what Brad's do, right?
00:52:24.000No, the Brads, in that story, this was in college, they washed her sheets, they put her in the shower, she had barf all over herself, they put her sheets in the washing machine, the washer, managed to get it off the duvet, it wasn't on the duvet, you know, put all that separate, and then after she was done in the shower, she's like, blah, blah, blah, blah, I'm so sorry, blah, blah, blah, then they layered her down on the bare mattress and then put the duvet without the cover on it and made sure she wasn't going to die and puke on her vomit and they left.
00:52:55.000Now I can't speak, I shouldn't start making these massive generalizations, but the ones I've met were doing pretty good for chicks.
00:53:07.000And I don't know, we're treading on dangerous territory, but there sure has been a lot of stories like Mattress Girl where you find out that some guy had his life ruined and it was a false allegation.
00:53:19.000What it is, is like it's, you know, targeting a certain aesthetic, is really what it is.
00:53:24.000Because, you know, the guy looks a certain way.
00:54:37.000And then, you know, he's in sales or marketing because people like looking at him and stuff.
00:54:42.000Or, you know, he's charming and he's the CEO of an oil company or something like that.
00:54:47.000But the nerds are there getting their revenge on paper and polluting our pop culture with this really biased thing.
00:54:55.000So when Sabrina Erdely hears about a gang rape in Virginia, she goes, finally, proof that Brad's a dick.
00:55:03.000Or with this story, they go, finally, proof that Brad doesn't care about aboriginals.
00:55:08.000Or with the Halifax Five, finally, proof that these guys go around, they have no respect for any of the people who have been oppressed and they just want to mock them because they're all dicks.
00:56:53.000Now, are they wearing, if they're wearing blackface, like there's that, there's that, uh, New Zealand rugby team, the blacks, and they always wear black everything.
00:57:04.000And the way that the guy's eyes and he looks like he's embodying some sort of thing.
00:57:34.000Based on comments in Bluegrass Prep's message board, the intent of the black body paint was not racial, but was instead a school tradition related to blackout games.
00:57:47.000Yeah, that doesn't look racial at all.
00:57:49.000Well, that would be the most unbelievably racist thing.
00:57:53.000Like, you might as well show up to a basketball game in a Klansman uniform.
00:57:56.000Yeah, like this picture, if that was the case, they would have had to have, like, been hiding and then just run in just for this photo shoot and then get out.
00:58:03.000Excuse me, what the fuck are you doing?
00:58:04.000What you're talking about right now is the crux of the message of this entire show.
00:58:34.000You know, from the left, it's, I was reading an article about this the other day, the left, when they talk about Indians they feel deep shame.
00:58:43.000And sorrow, and they want to give the land back.
00:58:45.000The right goes, yeah, it was really bad, but we won, sorry.
00:58:50.000And even like Pat Buchanan, he said, our treatment of the Indians was not what one would expect for people to whom the Sermon on the Mount was divine command.
00:59:03.000And Pat Buchanan is about as nationalist, pro-West, and paleo-conservative as you can get.
00:59:11.000Like America is not about trashing indigenous ceremonies.
00:59:16.000They call their military weapons tomahawks.
01:02:24.000So yeah, Kathy Griffin's holding two hats with a Fuck Trump shirt, but just listen, for the folks at home, listen to it.
01:02:32.000And then for you, just look at how weird- Wait, we were just saying how annoying it is that articles say, think about it, and you just said on the podcast, listen to it.
01:06:37.000Because clearly somebody's done their research and they mentioned, so what it is, it's a bingo board of things that like Gavin has been known to say.
01:06:45.000And a lot of it's like scratches nose, drinks beer, says... No, it's all my tropes.
01:06:51.000It's all the things I keep repeating again and again and again.
01:06:55.000And you can listen to my podcast and play bingo because I will definitely repeat one of these tropes like kid that pooped in an airport story.
01:08:37.000Five maybe six and so I'm in the next stall having my usual explosive diarrhea as Alcoholics do and I'm like should I intervene?
01:08:47.000I mean, I don't hear any smacks, but this is getting harsh Then we go back to the gate and he he sits in his mom's holding him and he's not crying But he's getting consoled by the mom and the dad's so mad.
01:10:09.000But I do it because I don't want to be fat.
01:10:11.000But pedophiles, they won't molest a kid, even though they're going to jail, they're going to get killed in jail, and they're going to ruin about five lives.
01:12:29.000And she's been out of the public eye for a few months.
01:12:32.000No, remember Lena Dunham had that controversy where she said that O'Shea guy, that sexy football player that is the number one guy that all the chicks want, the black guy with the blonde hair.
01:14:05.000And then those are the, like, wouldn't you say that they have a little more time on their hands to be, you know, like, ugly guys are more creative and funny because we have to be.
01:14:16.000So, you know, the brads of the world, like you said, aren't writing and doing creative stuff because they're just, they're being chad somewhere.
01:15:26.000I've identified a problem, which is we have an irrational hatred for Brad, and we've seen this with Duke Lacrosse, we've seen this with UVA, we saw it with the Indians, and we saw it with the Halifax Five, we're seeing it with the NYC Nine, although Proud Boys tend to be more blue-collar.
01:17:13.000They laughed off the first guys, yelling the N-word at their boy, their buddy.
01:17:18.000And then the Indian with the drum in his face, I think before they realized it was an act of aggression, when it was just sort of like a foot away, they sang along and danced around, because it wasn't clear it was from a ceremony.
01:17:29.000The ceremony was in a different place.
01:17:30.000And maybe it wasn't two Indians, maybe it was a couple more, but it didn't appear to be a ceremony, just like the Halifax thing.
01:17:36.000And then when they saw that, oh no, this is an aggressive thing, the drum is touching his face.