Heroin is a new kind of drug, but it s been around for a long time, and it s getting worse and worse. I talk about how dangerous it is, and how to deal with it, and why it s a good idea to get into rehab. I also talk about the case of Artie Langie, a guy who died of a heroin overdose at the age of 21, and the fact that he s still in jail in New Jersey, which is a good thing, because he needs to go to rehab, or he s going to end up in a shithole, which means he s not going to get a good night s rest, and that s not good either. I also ramble on about how much money you can get from using heroin, and what it s like to be a junkie in the late 90s and early 2000s, when it was a big deal. I don t know if it s still as bad as it is today, but I can tell you that it s definitely not as good as it was in the 90s or the 80s, and I think it s even worse than it is now. If you ve ever had a friend die of an overdose, or know someone who has died of an addiction to heroin, you ll want to listen to this episode. It s just as bad now as it ever was back then, I promise you that you re not gonna get much better than this. Enjoy this episode, and don t forget to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and tell us what you think of this episode! and we ll talk about it in the comments section. . if you like it, we ll send you a review in the next episode. XOXOXO - xoxo - - John Rocha - Tom - Ben - Dustin - Andrew - Jake John - Jack - Mike - Matthew & more! - Brian - Matt - Evan - Daniel Thanks for the podcast Thank you so much for the support you guys are amazing. - Thank you for all the support we ve gotten through this journey so far, we really appreciate it. We re looking forward to seeing this far and we appreciate all the love and support we got through this far, thank you all so much, we appreciate it so much. We re going to keep coming back next week.
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00:00:00.000Had a lot of friends die of heroin overdoses.
00:01:15.000Takes an OD and drags him out to the road.
00:01:19.000And they go, actually, it made things a lot harder for us.
00:01:22.000So, uh, it was a smart move on his part.
00:01:26.000By the way, if you see someone ODing on heroin and you don't have Narcan, then you should pick him up and walk him around.
00:01:37.000Especially if it's someone who's never done heroin before I've done heroin probably about five times great drug but not worth dying for and so I have some experience and and if you see like some new guys tried it often he'll be duped by junkies because junkies become Satanic they get possessed by the devil and they do evil things like trick you into doing it
00:02:02.000So this guy might have been told he's doing a bump of coke.
00:02:14.000We had an article in Vice, Confessions of a Serial Killer, this junkie wrote, and he was saying, I'm looking back at all the people that I showed how to use needles, to go from snorting to needles, and he goes, I think I murdered them.
00:02:58.000Why is it in these little individual mini bags?
00:03:01.000So you buy a bundle of mini bags, which are folded up wax paper things, and they have a little stamp on them that'll have maybe a skull and crossbones, so you know it's good.
00:05:59.000I've- I've made heroin in my brain with pot and booze.
00:06:05.000I know that people don't believe me when I say that.
00:06:07.000It sounds like a poor man's- beyond a poor man's smack.
00:06:11.000But no, you'd have like a couple joints.
00:06:14.000He'd have some beer, you'd maybe do a shot, and your head, your brain's like a frying pan, and you're just like, psst, frying up a wasted omelette, and you're just like, this needs a little more pepper.
00:08:29.000And, uh, by the time she got up, I will have done like five more lines.
00:08:34.000So I'd be so scared that she was coming to hurt me or that she was a cop or something that I would open the door a crack, give her her money, and then close the door again.
00:08:45.000I think a lot of prostitutes in New York bring coke with them and will give it for free because they want you to be limp so they don't have to fuck you.
00:08:54.000Sorry folks, this podcast is pretty dark.
00:08:58.000It's all about death and heroin, and heroin is really just death.
00:10:05.000We're probably the least scared of dying because we set up this awesome thing with the house and a car that can protect us and helmets and stuff.
00:10:12.000But poor animals, they're constantly in fear.
00:10:14.000If you could take that away just for a second.
00:10:18.000Of course, when they get close to the OD, like my friend Dash Snow, I can just see this little Rasputin on his shoulder going, Dash, you're dying.
00:10:28.000And Dash goes, well, I got a kid, though.
00:10:47.000And I think Dash, you can look him up, Dash Snow, he was the enfant terrible of the early aughts in New York and sort of defined cool for that particular epoch, that decade.
00:11:56.000It really, it kills you, it takes away your reason to live, it turns you into a liar.
00:12:02.000Junkies are some of the worst, shittiest, scumbag liars.
00:12:07.000My entire adolescence and early 20s was counting my CDs and realizing that my roommate had a junkie over, my roommate had become a junkie, and stole my CDs.
00:12:21.000But as far as making you super gay and lame, that guy JP, who had his thumb up his butt, I've told this story a few times, but it's the gayest thing, I don't mean homosexual, but this is the gayest moment of my life, the gayest thing I've ever heard.
00:12:37.000He invites us over for a waffle party.
00:12:48.000Yeah, I'll come to your fucking waffle party.
00:12:51.000It's better than lining up for an hour for brunch.
00:12:54.000That was such a tradition back before we had kids.
00:12:56.000You wake up hungover at 10, 11, maybe by noon or 1, you get your shit together enough to walk out of the house, and then you line up at some place like 7A in the East Village for one hour to get some fucking eggs.
00:14:29.000I go, yeah, I know you're trying to pretend to be a human being, you junky reptile, but humans will buy a coffee, then finish it, and if they really want another, which is rare, you rarely want a coffee after a large coffee, you go and get another one.
00:14:42.000We don't double fist, so you're not doing a good human impersonation.
00:14:47.000But we go to his place, and this is the same woman who had a font conflict, and he had his thumb up his ass, literally.
00:14:55.000And he's messing with the Hello Kitty coffee maker.
00:14:58.000He can't really work it out and he's staring at it.
00:16:25.000And then, I'll never get over this, it's the worst thing I've ever seen, including seeing someone hit by a car and dying.
00:16:32.000He's messing with the Hello Kitty coffee maker and without looking up, so his mind is still focused on this weird handle for the coffee maker, he yells, I like your new sunglasses!
00:16:47.000Is that the worst thing you've ever heard?
00:16:54.000Like without looking up, still focused on the coffee machine.
00:16:58.000I told Wendy Mullen that story of Built by Wendy and she goes, I woke up the next morning, first thing I said when my eyes opened was, I like your new sunglasses!
00:17:09.000It really does bring out the worst in people.
00:17:12.000It even brings out the worst in people who are very tangentially associated.
00:17:16.000This is a bit of a tangent, but when I was getting my arm tattoos, the ones on my forearms with all the writing, it was done by a celebrity tattooer to the stars, Scott Campbell, married to Lake Bell.
00:17:28.000I don't think he likes me anymore because of Trump, but we were friends for a long time.
00:17:33.000And, uh, he's also friends with celebs, which I've always been kind of dubious of.
00:17:39.000Isn't it kind of suspicious that you're friends with, like, Heath Ledger and Eva Mendes and all these different people that the only thing they have in common is that they're famous?
00:17:49.000Isn't that kind of a weird coinkydink when you're not in the business?
00:20:15.000And women have a higher tolerance of pain so they're better at it really.
00:20:20.000I mean I have to be drunk or something to be able to get like my back or something but you'd see a girl there and she'd just be reading a magazine talking as like needles going in and out of her spine.
00:20:30.000Or inner thigh, they just, you know, they're made for childbirth.
00:20:34.000And so I bet tattooists go, alright, we got a lot of chicks here, so we need to make a chick-friendly environment.
00:20:40.000And so sometime in the late 80s, early 90s, it became cool not to have a macho environment in a tattoo shop because that's better for business.
00:20:49.000I remember one tattooist, I can't remember who it was, saying to me that he was really pissed about the word tramp stamp.
00:21:07.000So, and then you start having female tattooists in the early 90s.
00:21:16.000Mid to late 90s and now all of a sudden it's chick thing and women ruin everything So just like having a woman on your boat if you're a pirate the whole crew is ruined now and now Tattoo shops are all about fuck Trump and I mean I don't think I could go to Saved Tattoo where Scott works where I got a bunch of my tattoos.
00:22:36.000And the beanie, oh my god, you see guys in New York, young total hunks in Manhattan, like in Washington Square Park, jogging with their shirt off and a beanie on.
00:22:48.000So your body's hot, but your head is cold?
00:22:58.000They don't like that their hair is kinky.
00:23:01.000And they've noticed that when they wear a beanie, especially a tight one for a long time, especially after it's wet, they take it off and they have kind of straight hair.
00:23:52.000And he goes, just a lot of people reaching out to you, a lot of people that care about you a lot, love you a lot, and they're worried about you, man.
00:24:05.000I would rather he came up and said, I can't deny I find a lot of young boys sexy, seven years old in short shorts, red leather short shorts.
00:28:37.000With all due respect to the dead, I don't like to speak ill of the dead, but he was a moron and a dick.
00:28:41.000I remember Pat O'Dell once convinced him, they were in the South in Alabama, they were all skateboarders, and he goes to get a skateboard, Harold does, whatever his name is, and Pat goes, dude, sorry, you're not allowed to come with us.
00:30:27.000And there's four or five naked chicks, prostitute strippers, who were there dancing, and they were dancing around doing coke, and the ten guys, Terry's buddies, were doing heroin.
00:30:37.000And everyone, including Terry, is asleep.
00:30:40.000They've knocked themselves out with smack.
00:30:41.000So the girls are just sitting there drinking beer, watching TV.
00:31:14.000But, uh, yeah, I think Harold OD'd on coke, but besides that, you know, you don't really hear about people OD'ing on coke or pod or a lot of different drugs.
00:31:24.000But these opioids, these fentanyls, they are a separate category.
00:31:29.000So the short version of this, this particular episode is don't do them.
00:32:44.000They want you to get addicted, and when you don't, when you quit or something, they're pissed off.
00:32:50.000They want to get you back on the horse, even though it could kill you.
00:32:54.000So, I think Carlos duped Sanjay into becoming a heroin addict, and then he decided he wanted to get clean, and his family got involved, and his family took him back to India.
00:33:05.000Um, India is the epicenter of heroin, Sanjay.
00:33:08.000So it's not a good place to go to get clean.
00:33:10.000In fact, I've heard there that few people do get clean.
00:33:12.000The way they do it is they chain you to a bed for 10 days.
00:33:20.000Uh, Chris was another kid that I used to hang out with, a super smart guy, we called him Black Chris because he always wore black, and he would make fun of me because I was punk, you know, when I was 20, and you're supposed to be over it by then, and he was, had long been over it, and he was in the scene way before me when I was a little kid, and he would always walk behind me and go, how goes the revolution?
00:34:10.000He got kicked out of school, got kicked out of McGill University, and then he got caught drunk driving, and got depressed, and was living back in Boston, and his dad came home one day and he was sitting on the couch, dead.
00:34:42.000And by the way, the hep C thing is very important because there's a lot of people you find out about who die of heroin but it's not listed as a heroin death because they'll do something like they'll get liver cancer.
00:34:54.000So they'll quit and then 10 years later at the age of 38 they die of liver cancer and that's because they exhausted their liver doing heroin.
00:36:11.000The family that built an empire of pain.
00:36:15.000And it's about this one family, I think their pharmaceutical company, Purdue Pharma, produces OxyContin, I think.
00:36:22.000But an addiction specialist that spoke to the magazine said, Sackler's firm, Purdue Pharma, bears the lion's share of the blame for the opioid crisis.
00:36:31.000And then we also had these doctors in New York who just got caught taking bribes from big pharmaceutical companies.
00:36:40.000Yeah, taking you know strippers prostitutes free trips to Disneyland and It said so that that article you can look it up It's called doctors charged an alleged painkiller kickback scheme in the New York Post and it said in reality many of the speaker programs Friedman Goldstein
00:37:00.000Schlefstein, Voudaris, and Bourdukia, these are the names of the doctors, conducted were merely social gatherings at high-end restaurants with no educational presentation whatsoever, the indictment filed in Manhattan federal court said.
00:37:13.000So, these guys were just taken out on the town.
00:37:17.000No educated, no, no, no, you know, PowerPoints about the drug.
00:37:19.000They're just taken out of the town and encouraged to prescribe these opioids and we're looking at 60,000 deaths.
00:37:27.000Everywhere, like New York, Manhattan, Westchester.
00:37:58.000And I think it starts with Big Pharma, then corrupt doctors, and then it's MS-13 and illegal immigrants who are bringing in the heroin.
00:38:05.000And when you say Oxy's too expensive for you and you want to switch to the street stuff, that's when MS-13 comes in and goes, we got some street stuff right here, man.
00:40:46.000Um, the time I did, one of the only times I remember doing heroin, uh, we were all sitting around listening to Rolling Stones, which is what you're supposed to do.
00:40:54.000I remember barfing a lot, and the barf just felt like taking a dump.
00:42:48.000He wore a snowboard pants, and his office was in an apartment building.
00:42:53.000One time, I forgot my umbrella, and no, my wife's, my wife was also going there, and she forgot her umbrella, and I went back in to get it.
00:43:01.000And there's a tranny, a black tranny, standing in front of him.
00:43:05.000And he's sitting on the couch and he's holding her hand and looking up at her.
00:43:09.000And as I walk in and grab my wife's umbrella, I hear him just look up and go, I don't understand you.
00:44:29.000He was in a gang called DMS who I'm very scared of and I hope I don't disparage them But I was at a party once he was an Asian dude, and he shows up DMS is a big gang still sorry not a gang sorry guys an organization in New York that's involved in the community community outreach programs and
00:44:50.000We're at a party on Avenue A, and he just shows up.
00:45:21.000Now, I'm not naming names here, and I'm cutting out a bunch of people because I realize it's boring to sit here and just name first names and tell you they died.
00:45:29.000But the reason that I'm, you know, touching this list is to show you that these people don't become Sid Vicious.
00:46:02.000They're just going to remember that you overindulged.
00:46:04.000And if you have kids, God forbid, your kids aren't going to remember you favorably.
00:46:12.000So, you're sleeping with a supermodel who has AIDS, and I don't know why you're doing it.
00:46:18.000It seems like a really bad move, and yet, you know, I talk to these cops that, they sound like they're talking about satanic zombies, because they'll say, I give the guy Narcan, and he's pissed off at me.
00:46:29.000Like, I've talked to an ER doctor who said I gave him Narcan, and then the junkie wants to fight me, because although I saved his life, I ruined his buzz.